Man, you sure you guys aren't in the GOLD mine business? 'Cuz these videos are easily THE BEST in-depth, railroad-related content ever posted. This unfortunate event has turned out to be a fantastic opportunity for the world to learn about the hard core behind the scenes nitty-gritty of how things like this occur and are properly fixed. NO ONE else has content like this. Ride this wave, man.
@@thomasboese3793 That’s the absolute worst! You start seeing what appears to be goldfish swimming around in your safety glasses, but it’s just discolored sweat running out of the sweat band in your hard hat and onto your glasses!
Thanks for the in-depth videos on track maintenance and the repairs from this derailment. Bless the Maker that everything stayed upright and no one was injured.
I recently found your channel and am enjoying watching your videos. You really know a lot about your job and more. You explain things very well and although track side in UK for many years in signalling have learned a lot already. That's the beauty of working on a short line like yours where you know all the guys and have access to workshops. We rarely got the change to talk to other departments about their work. Good to see the derailment was not anything to do with the track. I felt for you when you were called out to that. An awful feeling you never forget.
Thanks for the explanation Dave. Listening to the beginning of the video, I could hear the pain in your voice as you described the derail aftermath. The way you talk about that rail line shows the pride you have in your work. Be strong and safe as you continue to give us the scoop on how things went that day.
Your explanations are great! I conducted Sperry cars and MOW work trains and learned a lot from the rail maintenance gangs. I didn't sit on the loco or in the rider while the guys worked, I watched to see how things were done. This is experience you don't get in the classroom. Helped me out when I was a project train master.
Great video. We haven't been able to watch any of your videos for about a month. I saved them all, so we will catch up. Very good to see your video again. Hope you find your missing tool. Have a great week!
Absolutely amazing. Thanks as always for bringing us along! 👍 Can't wait to see the contractor truing the wheels I've never seen that process before I'm really looking forward to it
At least she kept upright during the derailment, that's one good thing. Imagine seeing this whilst it happened. The stresses on the bogie and the mounts for that traction motor as the locomotive was tearing up the track. Fascinating stuff, Dave, even though it is a bad day for you and the railway. Thanks for the updates, much appreciated.
Hey Dave, do u have a p.o. box address that you use? I'll send u a wheel gauge... I have spare gauges that i have found over the years laying around our yard!
You've got a great channel here, I sub'd a few weeks back and are doing my best to get caught up. You're a great narrator and explain things so well , thanks for sharing all this stuff!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Why thank you very much for the nice comment, really great to hear you are enjoying the home movies, we do appreciate your watching. My favorite livery is Chessie! When I was a younger lad can remember seeing a few of their locos around here
@@ccrx6700 you are very welcome! I live about 300 yards from a set of tracks that belong to the Indiana & Ohio Railway (a Genesee & Wyoming operation) and we also get a trackage rights train from Norfolk Southern too. I post some of the videos here, I do a lot of them with my kids.
Dave great back story on the events that took place. That wheel flange is si-gogglin.. thanks for taking us along on this journey and glad things are back on track for the company. No pun intended.
I don't want to really say it fellers, but if ol #1 went on it's side... Being #1, the original, everything went well. Just a few wounds for her to lick.
Thank you for the nice comment NWF and you are right it was unfortunate, but things happen on the RR as you well know. Really appreciate your visiting with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thank you D irk3672 and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: ruclips.net/video/oOug0z34118/видео.html Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. ruclips.net/user/ccrx6700
Second viewing and it's just as enjoyable to watch. Poor loco, it needs work done by the loco chiropodist. Thanks again Dave, for your crystal clear explanations, kudos.
Very interesting! It's pretty impressive that that truck pivoted so far. I'm just now realizing how much I like the paint scheme on your guys locomotives!
I worked for EMD for 24 years. Those trucks rest on two milled pivots about two feet across. One on front truck and one on the back.Those trucks can move a lot. Anything to keep wheel wear to a minimum.
Thanks, Dave, that flange definitely took a beating. Maybe you'll have the opportunity to make a video of them changing out the front combo; even a time-lapse video would be fun to watch.
Steven, watch next video coming out on how they fixed it, it's amazing! Appreciate your watching sir, have never done a time lapse and honestly don't know how to do it either, I'm just learning how to do these, got a GoPro and am learning how use it, any advice would be helpful
I just wanted to say I discovered your channel recently and I absolutely love ❤ it ! It is awesome and informative 👍 keep it up hopefully you won't have any more nasty rail mishaps
Glad to have you with us Eugene! And lot's more great content coming you way so hope you hit that notification bell to be sure to get informed when new vids come out, usually about every 4 or so days a new one is published. And since this video was made we have had 4 more cars have their doors open on the main line along with a loco derailment and your gonna see all of that sometime this spring/summer.
My engineer sir. Thankyou very much for introducing of different video for new locomotive engine in De railment view and after of re railing view..❤️🧡💛💚
That bar you are mentioned, if I recall correctly from listening to the folks with Union Pacific is called a "dog bone" and those bolts might need to be heat-treated to loosen them. Surprising what an ole dog of 75 years remembers.
No sir, that's called a binder. On locomotives that have them, the dog bone is on the centerline of the truck and supports the nose of each traction motor in the truck to counteract the effects of torque when applying tractive effort to the rails. SD 40-2 locomotives like the one in this video don't have a dog bone at all, they have another type of nose suspension that uses rubber pads bonded to steel plates arranged in a stack of about a dozen, all bonded together into one nose suspension. Those nuts usually come right off with a 3/4 drive impact and a 1 3/8" deep socket. If it won't come loose, they get taken off with a hot wrench in short order then replaced with a new bolt and nut.
I worked for a few years at a flour mill in Camp Hill and we had a switcher to handle the grain cars. In my time there we had a couple derailments and to watch the Hulcher people was amazing. In one case their pre job briefing took longer than retailing 3 grain cars.
Bill, yep they are amazing and yep pre job safety talk or briefing has taken longer than to re rail some of our other cars off. You are right on both counts sir
I am thinking that all the damage and all the restoration of rails and engines along with worn wheel flanges makes for some big $$$ This gives me a much better understanding of the economics of running a railroad. Thank you for the excellent detailed description. I find myself fascinated with all of this derailment evolution.
Railroading is an economic nightmare/daydream. Just look at the cost of ONE tie, now look at the number of ties per yard, mile, and the number of miles of the railroad. Once you understand that about 1/2 of the distance of the roadbed is ties, it just boggles the mind. Looking at the rail. Rail is sized by the number of pounds per yard of length and modern rail is 135 lbs. So a mile is 1760 yards times 135 pounds, times two equals 475,200 pounds of steel used just in the two rails every mile of track. (Not looking at tie plates or spikes or other hardware.) That's 237.6 tons per mile.
@@thomasboese3793 You are right - the numbers of things are a bit staggering. I guess I can see why the Precision Scheduled Railroading came about. The cost of maintenance goes up and up and the revenue from the customers doesn't go up as fast so - trying to avoid a shortfall.
@@brianhickey5949 The last cost I heard to lay new ties, ballast, and rail (no crossings, no turnouts) was one million dollars per mile. That works out to $189.3939 per "foot". To put it into perspective If I try to match the prototype in N scale I should be able to lay a foot of track (160 scale feet) for $1.1837. It would be close. {In HO [87.09 scale feet] it would be $2.1746.)
Good video Dave. I think you are on to something. That bearing shim block on that front wheel set would cause that skew. Just glad no one was hurt, that is a lot of weight to deal with.
Thanks Steve, never thought of that, not really sure what they did to fix the skewed axle but your hypothesis sounds pretty good to me, I was unable to talk with the loco mechanic that came in and fixed it, that loco weighs 386,000 pounds!
@@ccrx6700 Shoestring has a great deal of stories about railroad and operation himself and this is how I was recommended here , he is definitely a great guy
Thank you for the nice comment Lowell. Your right, big stuff can cause big problems at times but big stuff does a lot of work too. Really appreciate your watching and may you have a very good day my friend.
Bro your videos are amazing. My dream job is to work on the railroad I'm trying to get in on a 3rd class line on my own with out knowing anyone hard as hell point is you videos give me valuable insight and teaches me thing I need to know wish ya could do more videos I will be watching and will like each and every video keep doing what your doing it is of great help thank you sir I thank you very much you have you self a very good day
Great to see other people are willing to send you a gauge. They could just sit back, watch the video, and say sorry about your luck. Instead they reach out to help you. That's the way things should be!
incredible amount of damage both to the locomotive and the rail too, but thankfully Hulcher has a LOOOT of experience doing this type of work. amazing really
@@northstar2007 they may have to replace more than one traction motor depending on the wheel sizes. The wheels must all be matched in diameter too. They can only have so much mismatch in each truck and so much between the trucks.
By professionals. Only someone that knows all about what to do and were to do it. Needs to do that job. So interesting to learn about how things work. A fine job. Showing things most would not for many reasons. Always like learning what makes things happen.
Staring a Loco can be pretty difficult. They also use less fuel idling than it takes to start it, also its safer to leave the engine running to maintain brake pressure to prevent it moving.
Just my 2 cents, my father-in-law was a conductor, he worked the line from Cumberland, Md to Grafton, WV. I think he told me two things about never shutting then off. The battery was not large enough to start the engine and it only had water, no antifreeze.
You are certainly right in that Chuck. Not every day is a good day on the RR, but we can be so thankful the accident wasn't far worse. Loco could have been rolled over a bank and leaking diesel fuel, what a mess that would have been. Appreciate your stopping by and taking in the video today my friend.
My oh my. That must have made some awful noises grinding along 20 miles. I suppose the insurance rates are going up after this one. Thanks for the update!
It's a Huge Shame because it's such a good Engine that while it's down for repairs that they don't Repaint the Engine perfect timing for making it Look Sooooooo Amazing Awesome Beautiful again
Historically Railroads have been known to be so tight with a nickle that Jefferson screams for mercy! now if the Insurance company were to shell out the cash to do that than.....but wait this line has a bare bones maintenance shop let alone a paint shop!
Hard to imagine a wheel could wear that much in 20 miles no matter what happened. I think i saw a lot pf slack in that pedestal liner. Was something letting the axle run uneven and cause that wear. I thought i saw one brake cylinder travel out of speck as well. If there is enough meat on that wheel set and you have a wheel lathe you can turn them down. And iys one solid axle two wheels amd the traction motor. I wonder how much damage to the gear cases. We were using fiberglass ones in later years and the bottpms would be desyroyed every time we had a derailment. I changed a lot of traction motors and wheel sets in my time.
From the outside not so bad but its that closer look that shows the real and more serious problems. Slow as it was at least it wasnt totally ripped up and no fuel was spilled. The sheer length of the rolled rail is astounding. Hopefully the repairs continue smoothly and safely
I was curious about the popping sound as you walked by the engine. I don't mean the air sounds, just the continuous and quick pops. Thanks for the education and great lessons.
Now that would be a cool video! I'm track maintenance, don't know if I could do that, will see what I can come up with in the future. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the updates, keep them coming. Rarely do we outsiders get a chance to see 'behind the curtain' on accidents. Were the repairs that were done to get the line open temporary and you and your crew will have to rebuild at a later date? Why couldn't the loco just be pulled back to the yard instead of walking it 16 miles? Was it that messed up wheel?
Listening to this big boy idling is so relaxing ...... Love the vid and the explanation on the loco issue. The third axle on the truck has no traction motor ?.
Glad you enjoyed the show and found it interesting, thanks for watching, hope you will stay tuned for more of the videos in this mini series on the derailment that will be coming out soon
re: 0:10 "the rail is rolled over a quarter mile or more..." Easy Explanation: Conductor- "I think were on the ground !" Hoghead: "Thanks, I'll come out a few more notches !"
Great video,l think the tyre is to worn to be turned on a lathe.I don’t know if you do tyre-turning in the states but in the uk when wagons or commuter carriages get flat spots through sliding they have to be taken out of service and turned on the lathe or replaced.You sound a great man I would love to meet up with you if I can ever get back to the states on holiday.Take care ,be safe and stay healthy👍🏴🇬🇧
Yes Tim, stay tuned for the next video! We call it truing a wheel, in that video I show you the beginning of them truing the wheel. Thanks for watching and for the nice comment sir
Was nice of you Stephen to write in. Yes sir things could have been a whole lot worse. Glad you could take the time to pay us a visit and check out the video my friend.
Thank you Phillip, trammed means it moved from one place to another, not really a railroadin term, more of a bulldozer term, sorry for me confusing others on that, should have said track traveled Appreciate your watching
Thank you Jeff, yep lot of ballast up there, that was an old area where they had long wall mined under, gonna make a vid on that sometime, but that is why so much ballast was there, track dropped 3 feet from grade in places during that time. Appreciate your watching sir
It might be all wheel C/O it depends on gear case damage if it can be fix on locomotive also they need to put hand brake on when in park and adjust brake cylinder piston travel on front truck
Another excellent video covering this accident. Was wondering, is there enough tread left on the damaged wheel set to turn that set of wheels in a wheel truing lathe? Can your shop do that or do you have to send the wheel set to another RR that has the equipment to do this? Many years ago the Norfolk Portsmouth Belt Line would send diesel wheels to the old NS in Chesapeake, Va to be ¨turned¨ in a huge lathe. The lathe was ancient and used hand sharpened tools in the lathe turrets to restore the original wheel contour. Often I got stuck with that job. I hated it as it was hot, dirty and very slow. Now days carbide inserts are a game changer plus now locomotive wheels need not be removed from under the locomotive to restore proper contour. This saves many hard hours of labor over what it used to be.
We have a Simmons wheel machine for that. It's in a pit inside the shop and you park the locomotive on top of the machine. Simply put, its like a big horizontal mill with two big cutters that profile both wheels on that axle at the same time.
@@ralfie8801 Very interesting. Never seen this process in person. Back in the 70´s I used a more manuel type. The wheels and traction motor was removed from the locomotive & the axle and wheels put into a large wheel truing type lathe. Many hours to do this and reinstall the wheel motor assembly. It required at least 2 machinists and 1 electrician. I bet now before the brake rigging is removed, binders dropped and motor cut loose, you are done. Wow!!
What about that damage to the rear pilot as seen in the first part of the video? Will some of that have to be cut out, re-fitted and welded? Looking forward to seeing more and hopefully this unit will be back in service relatively soon! Great video!
Traction motor has an axle out both sides of it and each axle has a wheel on it, the axles and wheels put together is called the combo. A motor without axles is called the traction motor. hope that makes it clearer and thanks Bryan for watching Heres a link to a long ago vid I made as they are dropping a combo out on another loco ruclips.net/video/7uTgaGs92QY/видео.html
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Man, you sure you guys aren't in the GOLD mine business? 'Cuz these videos are easily THE BEST in-depth, railroad-related content ever posted. This unfortunate event has turned out to be a fantastic opportunity for the world to learn about the hard core behind the scenes nitty-gritty of how things like this occur and are properly fixed. NO ONE else has content like this. Ride this wave, man.
Real railroading by a real railroader. The only thing missing is the sweat running into your eyes at the worst time.
@@thomasboese3793
That’s the absolute worst! You start seeing what appears to be goldfish swimming around in your safety glasses, but it’s just discolored sweat running out of the sweat band in your hard hat and onto your glasses!
Just found your way earlier comment. Thank you very much for the very kind words my friend! ❣️❤😊
Thanks for the in-depth videos on track maintenance and the repairs from this derailment. Bless the Maker that everything stayed upright and no one was injured.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed and yes you are right, things sure
could have been a whole lot worse
I recently found your channel and am enjoying watching your videos. You really know a lot about your job and more. You explain things very well and although track side in UK for many years in signalling have learned a lot already. That's the beauty of working on a short line like yours where you know all the guys and have access to workshops. We rarely got the change to talk to other departments about their work. Good to see the derailment was not anything to do with the track. I felt for you when you were called out to that. An awful feeling you never forget.
Thank you for the very nice comment, appreciate that and for
you watching, hope you'll stay tuned for a lot more videos coming
in the near future
Thanks for the explanation Dave. Listening to the beginning of the video, I could hear the pain in your voice as you described the derail aftermath. The way you talk about that rail line shows the pride you have in your work. Be strong and safe as you continue to give us the scoop on how things went that day.
Thanks for the update Dave, hopefully she will be back in service soon with no issues.
Another great railroading video as always! Thanks for sharing it with us Dave!
Thank you Mike, appreciate the very nice comment and for
ya watching sir
Your explanations are great! I conducted Sperry cars and MOW work trains and learned a lot from the rail maintenance gangs. I didn't sit on the loco or in the rider while the guys worked, I watched to see how things were done. This is experience you don't get in the classroom. Helped me out when I was a project train master.
Thank you very much Gary, really appreciate the nice comment.
And congratulations to you sir on wanting to learn, that's excellent
what you did.
Great video. We haven't been able to watch any of your videos for about a month. I saved them all, so we will catch up. Very good to see your video again. Hope you find your missing tool. Have a great week!
Thank you Valerie, hope everything is all right with you, I've missed you!
Absolutely amazing. Thanks as always for bringing us along! 👍 Can't wait to see the contractor truing the wheels I've never seen that process before I'm really looking forward to it
That set may not get trued. It's possible the axle is broken and another traction motor will be needed.
@@ralfie8801 I was going off the information in the video description
Thanks for showing this video. Oh boy your gonna be busy. Glad no one was hurt. Thankyou.
Your welcome John, thank you for viewing sir, I am getting to
become friends with what appears to be your Husky ,LOL
At least she kept upright during the derailment, that's one good thing. Imagine seeing this whilst it happened. The stresses on the bogie and the mounts for that traction motor as the locomotive was tearing up the track. Fascinating stuff, Dave, even though it is a bad day for you and the railway. Thanks for the updates, much appreciated.
Thanks SS for the comment and for watching the show
Hey Dave, do u have a p.o. box address that you use? I'll send u a wheel gauge... I have spare gauges that i have found over the years laying around our yard!
It never Fails, There's always something to do On The Rails!! Good piece.thanks. That's Railroadin.❤
You are right about that Alan, never a dull moment here.....
Appreciate your stopping by to check out the damaged loco
my friend.
You've got a great channel here, I sub'd a few weeks back and are doing my best to get caught up. You're a great narrator and explain things so well , thanks for sharing all this stuff!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying and welcome aboard to
our group here, lot of great folks on here and hope you will
continue to interact with us
This is such a great series! Probably the best in-depth railroad content on RUclips.
Why thank you very much for the nice comment, really great to
hear you are enjoying the home movies, we do appreciate your
watching. My favorite livery is Chessie! When I was a younger lad can
remember seeing a few of their locos around here
@@ccrx6700 you are very welcome! I live about 300 yards from a set of tracks that belong to the Indiana & Ohio Railway (a Genesee & Wyoming operation) and we also get a trackage rights train from Norfolk Southern too. I post some of the videos here, I do a lot of them with my kids.
Glad to hear your ok Dave,
Thanks Anthony
We were waiting for this video great job Dave. I look forward to any video that you put up.Thanks again for another great one.
Hey Dave I just noticed the number on the Subs. Awesome nothing but the best for the best.
@Russell Trupia
hello
how are you doing
Great information on the flanges. Thanks for sharing.
Great insite commentary on all these wonderful videos you post. Thanks much for all your hard work and dedication.
Thank you my friend, appreciate your nice comment and for
watching
@@ccrx6700 You are very welcome.
@@ccrx6700 You are always very welcome.
Dave great back story on the events that took place. That wheel flange is si-gogglin.. thanks for taking us along on this journey and glad things are back on track for the company. No pun intended.
Thank you my friend, lot more to come
WOW! Amazing, Dave. Very informative. Many thanks for your updates!
Thank you Pete, appreciate your watching
Thanks for another great video!
Thank you for the video. The AAR has some great updated videos for in field use of gauges. The S-617 is an accurate gauge. Take care.
All in a day's work. Great story to look back on and tell your grandkids! Thanks Dave 👍
Thank you Joseph for watching and the nice comment,
much appreciated
Great video Dave, thanks for sharing!!!!
Thank you Ron, glad you enjoyed the show today sir!
Thanks Dave! Any damage is bad, but we know it could have been a lot worse. I hate tools that can grow legs!
Yep Rick, it could have been far worse, every guy hates tools
with legs, burns me up sometimes!
I don't want to really say it fellers, but if ol #1 went on it's side... Being #1, the original, everything went well. Just a few wounds for her to lick.
Thanks for sharing those impressions of your interesting and diversified work with us, but please be careful while filming and stay safe
Your welcome and thank you for watching, and sir I am
careful, at 67 years old you gotta watch all the time, I do
appreciate your concern and caring
Another Great Video, it is very unfortunate that this incident occurred, I'm glad all worked out in the end.
Thank you for the nice comment NWF and you are right it was unfortunate, but things happen on the RR as you well know. Really appreciate your visiting with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Great set of videos on the derailment
Thank you very much for the very kind comment. We are glad you enjoyed watching them Jim.
Thanks for the update Dave🚂🚂🚂
Your welcome Tom, lot more to come your way sir
Recently found your channel. Love the content!!
Thank you D irk3672 and welcome to our community, we are glad
to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy.
Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine:
ruclips.net/video/oOug0z34118/видео.html
Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out.
ruclips.net/user/ccrx6700
Love your videos my friend.. awesome content and explanation 👍👍
Thank you Tommy, appreciate that 👍
Outtstanding! Thank you! Keep Going!
That was very thoughtful of you to say that Sue. Appreciate your
thoughtfulness.
Very interesting! Would never get to see anything like this without these videos.
Thank you glad you enjoyed the show
I've been waiting for this. I have trouble imagining what it takes to lift and transport this giant chunk of iron. I'm just glad it stayed upright!
Glad you enjoyed, lot more coming your way on this whole derailment thing, appreciate your watching sir
Great video and content . Thank you for posting.
Thank you Clyde, appreciate your seeing today's show sir
Second viewing and it's just as enjoyable to watch. Poor loco, it needs work done by the loco chiropodist. Thanks again Dave, for your crystal clear explanations, kudos.
Your certainly welcome Barry, very pleased to hear you
enjoyed the home movie. We do so appreciate your stopping
by and checking things out my friend.
hi dave very nice video thanks for posting the updates. Please keep posting i enjoy watching!
kenny
Very interesting! It's pretty impressive that that truck pivoted so far. I'm just now realizing how much I like the paint scheme on your guys locomotives!
Thanks Eric, paint kinda reminds you of old Conrail!...LOL
@@ccrx6700 Yeah man totally!
I worked for EMD for 24 years. Those trucks rest on two milled pivots about two feet across. One on front truck and one on the back.Those trucks can move a lot. Anything to keep wheel wear to a minimum.
@@mikefleming8352 That is very interesting! The wheels ability to pivot prevents excess wear.
@@mikefleming8352 thanks for the info Mike 👍
Great video. So much information. Thank you!!
Your welcome my friend, am glad you enjoyed the show today
Hello from Alaska! My dad asked me to say Hello and awesome videos!
Hello to our good neighbor from way up north, thanks for
watching and I am Dave also
@@ccrx6700 Haha, that makes all 3 of us, my dad's name is also Dave. Haha. He says "Howdy!"
Appreciate the update!
Great footage and explanations.I appreciate it.
Thank you Steve, glad you enjoyed watching sir
Thanks, Dave, that flange definitely took a beating. Maybe you'll have the opportunity to make a video of them changing out the front combo; even a time-lapse video would be fun to watch.
Steven, watch next video coming out on how they fixed it,
it's amazing! Appreciate your watching sir, have never done a
time lapse and honestly don't know how to do it either, I'm just
learning how to do these, got a GoPro and am learning how use
it, any advice would be helpful
Thanks for all that you do! Great videos! I love your channel!!!
Thank you CJ appreciate the nice comment and for watching 👍
Wow that's incredible could have been worse I guess thanks for sharing Dave
I just wanted to say I discovered your channel recently and I absolutely love ❤ it ! It is awesome and informative 👍 keep it up hopefully you won't have any more nasty rail mishaps
Glad to have you with us Eugene! And lot's more great content
coming you way so hope you hit that notification bell to be sure
to get informed when new vids come out, usually about every
4 or so days a new one is published. And since this video was
made we have had 4 more cars have their doors open on the
main line along with a loco derailment and your gonna see
all of that sometime this spring/summer.
My engineer sir.
Thankyou very much for introducing of
different video for new locomotive engine in De railment view and after of
re railing view..❤️🧡💛💚
Your very welcome Thomas. Thank you for watching my friend.
Thank's for sharing!
Your welcome Ed, thank you for viewing today's show
That bar you are mentioned, if I recall correctly from listening to the folks with Union Pacific is called a "dog bone" and those bolts might need to be heat-treated to loosen them. Surprising what an ole dog of 75 years remembers.
No sir, that's called a binder. On locomotives that have them, the dog bone is on the centerline of the truck and supports the nose of each traction motor in the truck to counteract the effects of torque when applying tractive effort to the rails. SD 40-2 locomotives like the one in this video don't have a dog bone at all, they have another type of nose suspension that uses rubber pads bonded to steel plates arranged in a stack of about a dozen, all bonded together into one nose suspension.
Those nuts usually come right off with a 3/4 drive impact and a 1 3/8" deep socket. If it won't come loose, they get taken off with a hot wrench in short order then replaced with a new bolt and nut.
I worked for a few years at a flour mill in Camp Hill and we had a switcher to handle the grain cars. In my time there we had a couple derailments and to watch the Hulcher people was amazing. In one case their pre job briefing took longer than retailing 3 grain cars.
Bill, yep they are amazing and yep pre job safety talk or briefing
has taken longer than to re rail some of our other cars off. You
are right on both counts sir
“Sakes alive: looks like we got us a CONVOY”!
I am thinking that all the damage and all the restoration of rails and engines along with worn wheel flanges makes for some big $$$ This gives me a much better understanding of the economics of running a railroad. Thank you for the excellent detailed description. I find myself fascinated with all of this derailment evolution.
Railroading is an economic nightmare/daydream. Just look at the cost of ONE tie, now look at the number of ties per yard, mile, and the number of miles of the railroad. Once you understand that about 1/2 of the distance of the roadbed is ties, it just boggles the mind. Looking at the rail. Rail is sized by the number of pounds per yard of length and modern rail is 135 lbs. So a mile is 1760 yards times 135 pounds, times two equals 475,200 pounds of steel used just in the two rails every mile of track. (Not looking at tie plates or spikes or other hardware.) That's 237.6 tons per mile.
@@thomasboese3793 You are right - the numbers of things are a bit staggering. I guess I can see why the Precision Scheduled Railroading came about. The cost of maintenance goes up and up and the revenue from the customers doesn't go up as fast so - trying to avoid a shortfall.
@@brianhickey5949 The last cost I heard to lay new ties, ballast, and rail (no crossings, no turnouts) was one million dollars per mile. That works out to $189.3939 per "foot". To put it into perspective If I try to match the prototype in N scale I should be able to lay a foot of track (160 scale feet) for $1.1837. It would be close. {In HO [87.09 scale feet] it would be $2.1746.)
Great channel love the content, you are as giddy as a little kid with a train set.
Thank you Gary for the very kind words. I do love railroading.
Appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Good video Dave. I think you are on to something. That bearing shim block on that front wheel set would cause that skew. Just glad no one was hurt, that is a lot of weight to deal with.
Thanks Steve, never thought of that, not really sure what they
did to fix the skewed axle but your hypothesis sounds pretty
good to me, I was unable to talk with the loco mechanic that
came in and fixed it, that loco weighs 386,000 pounds!
Imagine the story this locomotive would have to tell if it could talk! We'd probably all learn some new cuss words lol!
You know Mike I was thinking that! Thanks for watching
@@ccrx6700 Shoestring has a great deal of stories about railroad and operation himself and this is how I was recommended here , he is definitely a great guy
@@catslivesmatter1268 👍
Yes!, it would say, " dont spank me, i didnt do it!, its the track's fault!" 😭❗
Thats a rough day right there. Big machines do big damage eh? Good thing we have big guys like you to fix that up!
Thank you for the nice comment Lowell. Your right, big stuff can cause big problems at times but big stuff does a lot of work too. Really appreciate your watching and may you have a very good day my friend.
Bro your videos are amazing. My dream job is to work on the railroad I'm trying to get in on a 3rd class line on my own with out knowing anyone hard as hell point is you videos give me valuable insight and teaches me thing I need to know wish ya could do more videos I will be watching and will like each and every video keep doing what your doing it is of great help thank you sir I thank you very much you have you self a very good day
Wish for you the best Josh! keep trying, good things come to those who desire, you will get on somewhere
Its pretty cool getting a MOW guy's perspective of things.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the show. Hope you'll watch
the other videos coming out in the derailment mini series
Great to see other people are willing to send you a gauge. They could just sit back, watch the video, and say sorry about your luck. Instead they reach out to help you. That's the way things should be!
Thank you Rupert for the very nice comment, there are a lot
of really good people out there
Thank you for the video very informative I'm glad I don't have to foot the repair bill for that.
Thanks for vid Dave
Thank you for watching my friend!
incredible amount of damage both to the locomotive and the rail too, but thankfully Hulcher has a LOOOT of experience doing this type of work. amazing really
will they press on new wheels to the traction motors or will they just replace the whole unit?
They will replace it as a unit.
@@northstar2007 they may have to replace more than one traction motor depending on the wheel sizes. The wheels must all be matched in diameter too. They can only have so much mismatch in each truck and so much between the trucks.
In the next video coming out will show you what they did
to fix this, it really a cool thing they did, you gonna like it
Totally understand about your wheel gage walking off on its own. Had that happen to me more than once.
Yep John 👍 appreciate your watching sir
By professionals. Only someone that knows all about what to do and were to do it. Needs to do that job. So interesting to learn about how things work. A fine job. Showing things most would not for many reasons. Always like learning what makes things happen.
Thank you Ronald glad you enjoyed watching my friend
Good luck, to the mechanics that have to fix that.
Great job
Why was the locomotive never shut down? I imagine there's an important reason, but some of us who aren't real-life locomotive engineers wonder why.
I was about to ask this same question.
I just got here 6/15/21 7:47 PM EST and heard the engine running and thinking the SAME THING !
Staring a Loco can be pretty difficult. They also use less fuel idling than it takes to start it, also its safer to leave the engine running to maintain brake pressure to prevent it moving.
Just my 2 cents, my father-in-law was a conductor, he worked the line from Cumberland, Md to Grafton, WV. I think he told me two things about never shutting then off. The battery was not large enough to start the engine and it only had water, no antifreeze.
@@joemc111 - Winter weather is another reason.
nice video. thanks!
Thank you Ron, glad you enjoyed and hope you will stay
tuned to watch more of the videos coming out soon on
this derailment
Holy cow what a mess, really makes you appreciate the good days on the RxR
You are certainly right in that Chuck. Not every day is a good day on
the RR, but we can be so thankful the accident wasn't far worse.
Loco could have been rolled over a bank and leaking diesel fuel, what a mess that would have been. Appreciate your stopping by and
taking in the video today my friend.
Great Video
Thank you Christopher, really glad you enjoyed the show, we
do appreciate your watching my good man
My oh my. That must have made some awful noises grinding along 20 miles. I suppose the insurance rates are going up after this one. Thanks for the update!
Imagine the government being this transparent to something that went wrong. 😂😂
Great videos, keep em coming!!
Thank you Markie, that why I'm a railroader and not a politician...LOL Appreciate your watching
It's a Huge Shame because it's such a good Engine that while it's down for repairs that they don't Repaint the Engine perfect timing for making it Look Sooooooo Amazing Awesome Beautiful again
Historically Railroads have been known to be so tight with a nickle that Jefferson screams for mercy!
now if the Insurance company were to shell out the cash to do that than.....but wait this line has a bare bones maintenance shop let alone a paint shop!
I want it painted hot pink.
Hard to imagine a wheel could wear that much in 20 miles no matter what happened. I think i saw a lot pf slack in that pedestal liner. Was something letting the axle run uneven and cause that wear. I thought i saw one brake cylinder travel out of speck as well. If there is enough meat on that wheel set and you have a wheel lathe you can turn them down. And iys one solid axle two wheels amd the traction motor. I wonder how much damage to the gear cases. We were using fiberglass ones in later years and the bottpms would be desyroyed every time we had a derailment. I changed a lot of traction motors and wheel sets in my time.
From the outside not so bad but its that closer look that shows the real and more serious problems. Slow as it was at least it wasnt totally ripped up and no fuel was spilled. The sheer length of the rolled rail is astounding. Hopefully the repairs continue smoothly and safely
I bet that derailment was a hell of a ride...
I was curious about the popping sound as you walked by the engine. I don't mean the air sounds, just the continuous and quick pops. Thanks for the education and great lessons.
That's the spitter valves on the main reservoirs opening, they automatically drain the water from the air tanks.
@@ralfie8801 Hey, thank you. I am surprised at how often they drain the water.
Louis B
It only takes a drop or two to cause it to open.
Ralfie did a great job in answering your query, I agree with his
findings and thank you for watching Louis
@@ccrx6700 your right, he did a great job. You have a great and resourceful following, they follow your lead.
Any possible chance you can Load Test this ole girl? I'd love to hear that EMD in full power on the outside.
And the horn!
Now that would be a cool video! I'm track maintenance, don't
know if I could do that, will see what I can come up with in the
future. Thanks for watching
Thank you.
Your welcome Ed, appreciate your watching sir and hope'you
will stay tuned for the rest of the videos coming out on this
derailment
Thanks for the updates, keep them coming. Rarely do we outsiders get a chance to see 'behind the curtain' on accidents. Were the repairs that were done to get the line open temporary and you and your crew will have to rebuild at a later date? Why couldn't the loco just be pulled back to the yard instead of walking it 16 miles? Was it that messed up wheel?
As of right now, 16 train wheels have disliked this video....
Listening to this big boy idling is so relaxing ...... Love the vid and the explanation on the loco issue. The third axle on the truck has no traction motor ?.
All six axles are powered.
Glad you enjoyed the show and found it interesting, thanks for
watching, hope you will stay tuned for more of the videos in
this mini series on the derailment that will be coming out soon
Happy to see the train back on she feet !!!!
re: 0:10 "the rail is rolled over a quarter mile or more..." Easy Explanation: Conductor- "I think were on the ground !" Hoghead: "Thanks, I'll come out a few more notches !"
Nice Video.
Thanks Derrick, appreciate your viewing today's show 👍
Great video,l think the tyre is to worn to be turned on a lathe.I don’t know if you do tyre-turning in the states but in the uk when wagons or commuter carriages get flat spots through sliding they have to be taken out of service and turned on the lathe or replaced.You sound a great man I would love to meet up with you if I can ever get back to the states on holiday.Take care ,be safe and stay healthy👍🏴🇬🇧
Yes Tim, stay tuned for the next video! We call it truing a wheel,
in that video I show you the beginning of them truing the wheel. Thanks for watching and for the nice comment sir
Now would be perfect to give her a repaint too
Sure glad there was no load attached Keep the videos comming
Was nice of you Stephen to write in. Yes sir things could have been a whole lot worse. Glad you could take the time to pay us a visit and check out the video my friend.
Great videos & great narration. What does "trammed it" mean?
Thank you Phillip, trammed means it moved from one place to
another, not really a railroadin term, more of a bulldozer term,
sorry for me confusing others on that, should have said track traveled Appreciate your watching
My my my dave, that looked like a steep berm. Lucky she didn't lay on her side. She looked good standing tall. Keep up the good video's 👍
Thank you Jeff, yep lot of ballast up there, that was an old area
where they had long wall mined under, gonna make a vid on that
sometime, but that is why so much ballast was there, track dropped 3 feet from grade in places during that time. Appreciate
your watching sir
This looks super dangerous to be near. A sd40-2 just look how it derailed!
That’s an SD38-2
It might be all wheel C/O it depends on gear case damage if it can be fix on locomotive also they need to put hand brake on when in park and adjust brake cylinder piston travel on front truck
Another excellent video covering this accident. Was wondering, is there enough tread left on the damaged wheel set to turn that set of wheels in a wheel truing lathe? Can your shop do that or do you have to send the wheel set to another RR that has the equipment to do this? Many years ago the Norfolk Portsmouth Belt Line would send diesel wheels to the old NS in Chesapeake, Va to be ¨turned¨ in a huge lathe. The lathe was ancient and used hand sharpened tools in the lathe turrets to restore the original wheel contour. Often I got stuck with that job. I hated it as it was hot, dirty and very slow. Now days carbide inserts are a game changer plus now locomotive wheels need not be removed from under the locomotive to restore proper contour. This saves many hard hours of labor over what it used to be.
Bennie, yep excellent comment sir. Had a guy come in and true it,
got a video coming out where you can watch him do it!
@@ccrx6700 I´m very much looking foward to what he does.
We have a Simmons wheel machine for that. It's in a pit inside the shop and you park the locomotive on top of the machine. Simply put, its like a big horizontal mill with two big cutters that profile both wheels on that axle at the same time.
@@ralfie8801 awesome! Made a vid of them starting to true the wheel think your gonna like it.
@@ralfie8801 Very interesting. Never seen this process in person. Back in the 70´s I used a more manuel type. The wheels and traction motor was removed from the locomotive & the axle and wheels put into a large wheel truing type lathe. Many hours to do this and reinstall the wheel motor assembly. It required at least 2 machinists and 1 electrician. I bet now before the brake rigging is removed, binders dropped and motor cut loose, you are done. Wow!!
I have seen those CATs they are really amazing, and the amount they can lift is amazing !
Can you do a video on how they get these beasts up from a crash
That would be cool, but unfortunately i wasnt there when they did it. Thank you for watching 🌝
Lawd, that's railroading!
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hello
how are you doing
@@lydiaanderson4247 Fair to middlin'.
Were you at the H⁴? I knew of a Lydia at that ED - many moons ago.
@@tzadik36 no that might be a different lydia but hope you dont mind if we get to know ourselves more off here
What about that damage to the rear pilot as seen in the first part of the video? Will some of that have to be cut out, re-fitted and welded? Looking forward to seeing more and hopefully this unit will be back in service relatively soon!
Great video!
I’m confused about a ‘combo’ versus a ‘traction motor’, could you explain further? Two axles versus one ???
I think he meant one axle, two wheels with a traction motor mounted between.
@@Nurvington That’s what I would’ve thought.
Traction motor has an axle out both sides of it and each
axle has a wheel on it, the axles and wheels put together is called the combo. A motor without axles is called the traction motor. hope that makes it clearer and thanks Bryan for watching
Heres a link to a long ago vid I made as they are dropping a combo out on another loco
ruclips.net/video/7uTgaGs92QY/видео.html
@@ccrx6700 Ok, that clears it up. 👍🏻
@@ccrx6700 That must be some lingo you guys use. The whole assembly is called a traction motor assembly by most railroads and the AAR.