"How do I know what is a good item in PoE?" - Beginner Guide
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Zizaran explains items and what makes them good or instantly sold to a vendor. This is a very complex problem in Path of Exile, and Ziz tries to explain it as detailed as possible.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:07 The most important thing to do BEFORE identifying items
01:35 What makes UNIQUE ITEMS good?
02:30 Rare items
02:42 Belts
02:47 Open affixes (prefixes and suffixes)
03:03 Belts (cont.)
03:33 Gloves
04:04 Boots
05:07 Rings
05:25 Amulets
05:58 Helmets
06:15 Body Armour
06:48 Physical Weapons
07:23 Caster Weapons
08:02 Elemental Weapons
08:25 Shields
08:46 Cheatsheet and final tips
09:23 Don't worry about missing potential good items
11:17 How to BE FAST
12:28 Practical Examples
16:37 Closing thoughts
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If you're a new player let us know if this helps you, and if you have any other questions.
The cheat sheet image is too small/low quality :(
The resolution of this makes it illegible. Any chance you’ll post another one we can read or upload a better resolution pic?
im wondering if its worth making another guide for people that arent far enough into end game to have all the different crafting choices you listed. I think there are a ton of players that stop progression around yellow maps, so most of the end game choices you discussed would not apply. I find it relatively easy to get good enough gear to handle white/yellow, but usually fall flat working into red maps, and dont have a good understanding of how to progress my gear, since my gear is, at that point, usually dependent on each other (for instance, resists are barely over caps, or gear has critical functions for the build like life regen or something)
Thanks so much - big help for new players Ziz.
started a month ago. this helps a bunch
This is the exact guide I had wanted for my first few leagues. I have the hang of things now and the comment on playing more builds obviously helps, but this is literally one of the most invaluable resources for new players aside from a POB guide. The reason for that is because the decision paralysis of looting in these games is unreal. To teach someone what is worth keeping or vendoring is going to keep their stash clean and their time valuable which is like giga strong skill to have in POE. Amazing work ziz and editors.
I used to pick up every rare and id them, and constantly do the chaos recipe after a while... i got absolutely no where lol that was many years ago but we all start somewhere, now i can get to maps day 1 and make 10div a day after week 1
Right, I wish I had this YEARS ago. I've mostly figured out things by now but this video is really solid.
Loot in this game is very daunting. I'm not sure I have the energy to learn this skill, considering my limited time. There's also so many systems now, that you need to handle to progress at a decent pace... it's intimidating to say the least.
@@ExceedProduction There are many resources to teach, but if you are short on time, just take advantage of the crafting bench and essences, and keep it simple.
This game is amazing and you odn't need to learn 10% of it the first time you play it. Just get through some and have a good time
True. This is bad game design in my opinion. The stats potency is counter-intuitive. This game is about about dealing damage, and yet the main stats to look for are health and resistances. The combat is lightning fast and the game itself is just monster grinder. Doesnt matter if you deal fire damage or physical, there is no feel to it when the mobs die in one hit. No idea what damage my minions do and what minions are better. This is just ridiculous.@@ExceedProduction
I am struggling putting items to sale as a new player, this is what i needed, your channel is so good for new players. Great work, I'll try do die less than you do.
Put all hard to price items in like 10c stash tab. If you get spammed with message fast, then go back and check that specific item, because it's probably underpriced. Let other people price check for you. Work smarter, not harder
installing awakened poe trade is the best thing you can do. it will give you a much faster idea of an items value and help you understand what on that item is worth something
@@mclovin4974thats one of the reason people hate the current system so much xD thank god i am a ssf player so i dont have to worry about people like you
@@CelphTitled7 It's the best way to play and benefits everyone. Individually pricing items is never gonna happen at bulk, so lots of usable cheap items will go to waste. Bad for the community. Having a few big hits being dumped into a bulk tab is the trade-off of doing it this way and is hardly a negative. I do understand your ignorance on the topic however as you lack the experience/foresight.
I think a newer player would have a hard time selling anything as they don't have really good stuff to sell unless they are in higher maps or crrafting.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this video Ziz. It's my second League and now that I've finished all my maps and reaching voidstones, I'm struggling with the next step. These guides help a lot
Talk about perfect timing! I just started playing for the first time yesterday. One of my first questions was "How do I know which gear to keep?" I'm used to the concept, coming over from Diablo 4, but PoE is a different game. I even asked around on your discord this morning and, a few hors later, viola: you delivered this video! The chart is EXTREMELY helpful!! I'm going to print it and post it near my PS4. Some of the stuff was over my head but it will come in time. Thank you so much for a fantastic video!
This is a dope beginner guide. Lord knows Global has more “is this good?” Messages than most other things
Poe chat keeps recommending ziz videos for beginners but every time i check one out its never for beginners. I guess beginners in poe terms means "you played 2k hours and tried 18 different builds"
I mean poe players consider the first 1k hours "the tutorial" 😂
yeah at the end he speaks chineese
@@padarousou that's understandable given the vast amount of information but in PoE case they should use a different terminology for extremely beginners. Maybe something like newbie for 2k
Having several stash tabs with ascending prices is great aswell. Put for example all your rare jewels in a stash tab with the price put to 1d, and each day you lower the price until something sells.
I've played the game a total of 242 hours now so I can safely say... As a new player Thanks for the video! helps me a lot.
15:54 Correction - You actually cannot use a veiled chaos orb on an item that already has a veiled modifier.
Just the 4 archetipes meele casters minion and bow helped me to sort out, the more categorized things are the clearer tyvm❤
Really great guide: but an important addition for chest armours: you either want 100+ Life or no life mod at all, because of the new life mastery
Loved this video. I'm 2 leagues in and really enjoying poe. This league I've been starting to really optimize and this video showed me I'm on the right path. Most of the things I was already doing so that validated me and there were even a few high level crafting tips that I didn't know. Keep up the great work
ty for this. the item for item breakdown realy made a lot of sense to me.
the bit after that especialy the examples has a lot of points that you need some experience in the game to know whats going on ( knowledge talk, or gibberish if youre new or newer player)
I learned it by playing builds, like high life and resistances is the first thing you learn, then the plus to gems and some others stood outs, playing an ES build gave me insight into what stats you want on ES build and so on... the biggest jump in understanding I got was definitely trying to craft items, you get hands on experience on how hard some stats are to get and what it costs to make that item. Id say for new players look for items for your build and sell/buy , etc,.. and try different builds to learn new valuable stats but try to get into crafting, it will speed your learning and make building up much cheaper.
very very helpful. Nice to have the idea to look for certain mods and then consider the item. i was somewhat doing this, learned from experience, but to have confirmation that it isn't a bad habit is very useful in a game this dense with information
One of the most important Videos for me - thanks Ziz
It would be great to see how you set up your item filter over time at each step of the leauge.
Really good content. I think it would be helpful to have a smaller version of this in build guides.
This was a super good and solid video. Covered a lot of the basics with this. Maybe make this into a series or something and do influence items next.
man.. i wish more people were as honest as you. keep on keepin on
Thank you for saying about the missing the potential item part, I think we all need that mentality and not too crazy about it.
Excellent video. Thanks for the examples at the end, that really brought it all home.
I played a few leagues and different builds but recognizing good items and the right items for my build is still something I struggle with a lot.
Only thing I would have asked for in this video or another is how to price such things. Maybe I'm crazy, but I just rarely ever find something I price over 20c. I probably should download the app that price checks things as a start though. However, knowing something is worth 20c or 20d is a big difference. Quite a few times, I've had something that was listed at like 5c finally sell after weeks, that I'll go check after because even I thought "that's really good" and the next cheapest one is 5 times or more what I sold mine for. But a video on a pricing tool or how to gauge a price would be really appreciated. This video has already helped me immensely though.
Reading the title, I instantly added this to my "poe tips" playlist
Random guy I ran into on POE the other night gifted me a Divine orb while I was seeking some gear for trade. Dude helped me out TREMENDOUSLY. I absolutely LOVE this community. I have literally never had s toxic interaction before in this game. Im so glad that were getting a sequel.
thank u this was useful, as a pretty new player ive been feeling overwhelmed. cheers
This is something I still struggle with. This is very helpful!
Nice Video. :)
Recently I had a feeling that I dont know how to play anymore, all my equips are kinda bad and I feel like Im spending too much to craft a ok one. Pricing is something I never really learned too so this was a great video for a pick me up on that info
you could say how to use awakend POE trade to try to figure out price
also some uniques with perfct rolls are worth something even if trade addon show 1c price
Yeah, but eventually in a league you get to a point where you don't want tabs filled with 1-5c sales.
@@theelder4797 i didnt even beat the campaign and i already dont want that, just mapping seems to be a better use of time than constantly getting interrupted for 1c trades.
thank you Z this was very useful for a casual player like me. Appreciate you for all your videos and I wish you the bestest of health in your life.
As someone with dyslexia reading items quickly is a real issue. I really wish that they would extend the filter system to also allow us to highlight certain stats on items. So I would be able to make life on a item above a certain number have a green color text or +1 gems be purple. This would make the game 1001% more better for me.
But maybe that's just me. I also think items should drop identified. This isn't D2 a single juiced map likely drops more items than an entire start to finish run of d2. I never pick up items unless it has a specific base with the influence I need. The whole dopamine hit they are going for when you ID an item and it's actually not trash just doesn't realistically happen. It is so rare. Meanwhile if items drop identified we can get that dopamine hit when the item drops and we will hyped because it will be something we think is valuable because we can filter this with our item filter.
The loot filter can already look at mods and highlight items with good mods that drop, but this is limited in use because only Corrupted items drop identified.
FINALLY!!!!! A video that I might actually understand!!!
i will say this that playing OTHER builds AND knowing those builds , greatly help identifying some good items
Thank you so much!!! This is a guide I needed and wanted
Me three years ago would've loved this. Glad newbies will have it!
Also - good tip is to look for FRACTURED T1 items. Usually they go for 10c, but if you lucky to hit +1 all fractured on sceptre - that's few divines in your hand right there
Also, generalizing, - Life and ES (if your build use ES effectivelly like Witch on templar), resistances and attributes - all as high tier as possible - are good items.
Like ring with T2 life, two T1-2 res and empty preffix - can go for nice price. Or Gloves.
Boots is kinda exclusion here, cause as Ziz said - boots without movement speed - is brick. Try to hit 30%, that's sellable level i would say from years of my experience.
Good way to test your knowledge and possibly get nice item - is Rog crafting.
Rog crafting - is crafting item with Rog character, that is from Expedition league mechanic. With Rog - You can manipulate items with different way and get something real nice, and spend on it only expedition currency, which is no-loss strategy in many ways.
For example - bow, you can be lucky and reroll Rog with 2 flat ele damage prefixes, that are T3-4 (for example added 20-120 cold damage and 25-100 fire damage)
With rog - you can get craft to get those tiers higher. If you manage to get them to T2 or even T1 - you can bench craft third flat (you need empty prefix for it) - that will sell very good, few divs easy (cause you can metacraft AS and crit on it easily with those prefixes)
Don't be sad if something bricked - PoE is great for gambling both because it gives that chance to proc cool nice stuff, but also it teaches you, that fails happen and you need to face it and go on for next lucky craft/gamble :)
UPD:
Chaos res is usualy praised more, due to it's harder to cap it. Ele res can be found on Passive tree super easily
i just learned about fractured items last league, i was like dude that is amazing. i bet i threw awway so much good stuff
I think you didn't. Good fracture bases are very rare. Trust me, i pick every fracture item and ID it, there's like 0.1% of them that are worth 1+ divine
@@Olden2610I found an i85 Spine Bow last week with fractured T1 flat cold damage. I couldn't find anything on the trade site like it so I put it up for 20 div (which is where actually crafted bows with the mod were selling at), no one bought, then lowered to 12 div and sold it, and I think I probably should have lowered the price slower. So yeah these things can be worth a lot.
Oh yea, i think 20d is fair price for trade league. 12 is probably to low, i usually lower price by 10% (so from 20 to 18) and wait 1-2 day
You are just an absolute treasure chest of info and help. Hope you are getting compensated by GGG because I’m enjoying the game so much mostly because of your help. Thanks!!
small addition from me would be that combo bases especially evasion+es and evasion+armor tend to be lower in price, sometimes by A LOT.
Great question, poorly answered. "Here's a random item I picked. I'm arbitrarily TELLING you which 2 stats out of the 6 it has are important. I'm NOT telling you how to find out what the important stats are for yourself; not for this item, OR any of the 10 billion other items I didn't list. Ok, hope you enjoyed the video, good luck!"
When you are new, u consider an open suffix good. When you want good gear, you consider open suffix is worst than open prefix for almost all slots. Rings and amulet is obvious, it's pretty generally understood you want Elreon for most builds (for amulets also some very strong damage mods like aoe/damage or proj damage/speed). For your helm, you very very often want Korell. For your body armor, Gravicius is often BiS and incomparable to any of the awful things you can craft on a suffix. Only exception may be %attributes. Boots you often want to make your suffixes first so you can get veiled ms and bench life. Those the cookie cutter simple boots to make. For gloves, there you have excellent bench craft on both prefix and suffix. For weapon, both caster and attack, almost only suffix is something u bench craft. Shields, good options on both sides there too.
Open suffix is only good on bad gear when bench crafted res is considered a good thing. So very early gear stuff. On good gear, the difference is your bench craft prefix is often better than any other mod you could have there. While bench crafted suffixes are often slightly worst than a good natural mod. You can bench attack speed, but it never will be as good as the natural mod. While you cannot roll pierce one target on your gloves or phys taken as fire on your helm naturally and for some builds, these are very helpful.
That doesn't apply to weapons, in 90% of the cases you never want to unveil a prefix modifier. So the unveiled suffix will be always more worth
@@m.h.4907 Yes think I may have said that. Bench craft mods for most gear pieces is still best on prefixes. Because those bench craft mods are better than anything you can naturally roll. I'm thinking Elreon, Korell, Vorici, Gravicius, all those bench crafts are arguably the best prefix you can have on certain builds.
So where possible your best items should have an open prefix for those very powerful bench crafts.
Yet again Zizaran has outdone himself now i have more your videos to link to the starting players i encounter thank you for the video :)
Currently on my furthest HCSSF to date! Act 6! Trying to go in as blind as possible, while picking up these amazing tips and bits of information as I go (rather than straight up reading guides.) Thank you for everything!
I'm on my first "real" season on a6 as well. No hardcore though ;)
What’s makes a good base? You spoke about how an item has some great stats but then said it’s on a bad base. For me this is probably the hardest thing to figure out at the moment.
God bases are basicaly the high requeriments bases armours, based in just id itens, not crafted, for rings (amethyst, two Stone and vermiliion), belts (stygian, crystal, leather and the str base), amulets (double att bases and Life regen%)
This is what I'm looking for. It's hard to know which item is good and worth for selling
This is the video I've always wanted, thank you!
I skipped the last couple leagues, but I'm a veteran for sure. I learned a couple things though. The idea of vaaling iron rings is simple but brilliant.
Overall an incredibly succinct and informative video. Some solid examples and very easy to understand reasoning.
Infinitely extremely useful guide for me :)
TYVM
Thank you for this guide. I'm playing SSF league for the first time and I have reached a wall when it comes to leveling. My character is a level 90 minion Guardian and I'm starting red maps. I have completed almost all white and yellow maps without problems but red maps are something else. I can clear them but I'm dying at least once per map and not progressing when it to leveling. The only avenue for improvement I can see is through equipment but I really don't know what stats to look for (except for resistances and life as those are obvious). I also have some hard locked slots as my weapon and gloves are unique and important for my build. And I'm also using the anvil unique amulet for block improvement. I did not play the league mechanic because I didn't enjoy it so I don't have tattoos. I'm stuck at level 90 for now.
Hitting a wall at red maps/lvl 90 is pretty common. The low hanging fruit there is mana reservation efficiency to stack as many auras as you can, and don't ignore guard skills. You can map something like steelskin or molten shell to your left click so every time you move it will continuously cast. This is cheaper than linking cast when damage taken and frees up a socket/link. If you have decent life regen, stack auras until you barely have any unreserved mana and put your main skills on a lifetap support gem so mana isn't an issue. If you're already doing all of those things, you can grind the max tier yellow maps that you can reliably survive to level up and only attempt red maps when you're freshly leveled so you don't lose too much XP. I'm still relatively new to the game as well, so take my advice with a grain of salt. :)
Great Video, it's my first run through of the game and my first ARPG ever. I was gonna play diablo 4 but the reviews weren't good I I like the game play of ARPG's and getting used to it in preparation for POE 2. But I recently ran into Vaal, and although I beat him on the second try it let me know i am woefully unprepared with my current skills, weapons, and gear. As the random fodder of Act 3 is actually starting to give me problems.
GGG should pay you... creators like you have made this game SO approachable! Thank you!
There's an easier way: just put it in a 50c tab. If you're getting giga spammed, you're eating good tonight lol
“This to this” and I have no idea what you’re talking about😂 ( I’m still installing the game now)
Thanks for this great guide and cheatsheet it helps a lot!!
I'm new to POE and the biggest problem i have on stats is to know which stat is coming from which type of modifier (fractured, veiled, anoint,... and so on). And which stats are hard coded on these items and keeps on them even I Vaal or put essences on it, where to get these mods and so on.
Also as a new player, I second this. I've gotten the gist of what's decent most of the time, but knowing where and how each stat is coming from what mods would be really helpful
Sir im planning to return to PoE but even after thousands of hours im noob, this will help me alot in preparation for PoE2 when it get released
Love these guides. Such valuable info for new and experienced players
This video, like all your videos, are informative and clear. Thanks for the content!
This is a great video! I appreciate this good quality content.
Even playing off and on since Beta, what helped me the most was down losing PoE trade and letting it nudge me toward the good stuff. Once I had done that long enough I was able to get a vague sense and start discarding 95% of the junk quickly. Now I only price check maybe 1/20 items, and sometimes to just to figure out the range for the item.
The itemdrops are the thing that costs me the most time in this game. I have this tendency to check most items to see if i can use it, even if it means a little improvement.
It's true that over time i got to recognize items better before picking them up, but still it costs me most time in this game.
Probably i have a hoarding issue or something, i wish i could just walk on quicker.
Sooo helpful, thank you !!!
Just remember if you put something up for sale and you get a bunch of messages to buy immediately then you might want to take a second look at the item as you may have undervalued it.
I think a really good video would be how to min max cradting or atleast tips and tricks to cover the little details/nuances. Like how you say crafting mana blocks while unveiling. I didn’t know that. It’s all these little things about crafting that are really nuanced and I can guarantee the average player or new player has no idea. Including myself.
It's so weird for me, coming from the diablo 3 space, where +maximum life is pretty bad and now it being the first thing almost every piece of gear wants :D
Good beginner guide. I have NEVER seen a belt or anything with 70% total Elemental resistances. good example of what you want but that;s a higher map item or crafted item. You still talking about different crafting methods that may be beyond beginners and also trading if they have chaos or divines. Been playing a little while and hardly ever got divines. You gave some good advice but some still above what a beginner can do. As in other vids you move along/talk fast to try to keep up.
Omg I needed this.
There is no beginnings guide. The game is so complicated for people that never played this game that any beginner guide is not that
4hrs into POE and all I do is back and forth to city to sell stuffs for scraps and here I am.
Aye great video ziz if only i had this 3 years ago!
its like you read my mind. i was just thinking about this earlier.
who would u recommend i watch for build guides (that a new player can follow pretty easy)?
Virtually all items you pick up from the ground are trash after the first 48 hours of league start. Don't pick up items after you're done using chaos recipe or gearing (aside from SSF). Just a waste of time and reduces your currency per hour significantly.
Aside from fractured good bases and maybe some i86+ bases. Get a loot filter and go stricter than you think you should much sooner.
nice vid... next one about fractured and influenced items?
Was hoping this would me understand how to gear my toon. I just got level 77 and am in tier 4 maps. I still have no idea what gear I'm looking for. I can't find half the pieces on the pob and when I do I never have enough currency to fix the sockets.
Good guide, but I think only understand 30% of the practical examples. lol. I played 2-3 leagues, but all stopped when mapping started. The game is offering too much, my brain just stopped functioning and don’t know what to do next, so I stopped playing. 3.25 is the first league I really started mapping, this guide is still a bit advanced for casual players like me. It certainly requires other knowledge as there are just too many things in the game. The cheat sheet really helps, that’s the main thing I will take away from watching.
I haven't played Poe for a long time but at the time trading was one of the things that bothered me the most about the game.
It takes up a lot of time that you should be playing.
I always identify bases like amethyst rings, double attribute amulets or bone rings and high tier hybrid armors that can roll suppression "trust me it's worth it" -Rogg
I love this game, in special the tree skill. Is huge but i just ❤❤❤ it. Its look a litlle bit like the tree of A.C - Valhalla 😊. Tnkks for video.
I still cannot wrap my head around elemental weapons. Why is it that I would need flat lightning and fire on my weapon in order to have frost blades do more damage even tho frost blades is cold/phys -> cold? Especially if I don't intend to use trinity? Or is trinity a must have on any elemental attack build?
Usually Elemental Attack builds don't scale one type of element, they scale crit or generic elemental damage, so anything you add to your base damage is very valuable.
@@skryah this makes sense, thank you for the reply
I still very often get t1 fractured suppression gloves/boots and with a good base and sell them for 2-7 divines. So when you get a decent fractured drop, remember to always identify them!
Hi Ziz, any recommendations on what to look for on quivers?
I play this game solo, but oh how nice it would be to game with someone with your knowledge 😅 itd be so fun
had a seller do a similar thing to me with the metamorph unique ring. quit haggling at 5 div he still had it at league end for 8 div
What about "minion build weapons"? I'm assuming they won't just fall into looking for physical or elemental bonuses?
if i get spammed i usually whisper the people back and ask them the real worth of the item. Honest answer that makes the most sense gets it for listed price even if its 5 divines worth more.
Should I go to ssf to learn crafting or should I just stay softcore every league to get currency to craft?
i use awakened poe trade to learn how to value items. looking up a lot
I feel like ES needs its own guide for gearing I know they is a guide from way back but the game has changed a lot since. I also felt that it was a little bit unfair to skip it entirely. Some new players may just vendor high es bases because "it doesn't have life".
When you talk versatile Im in 😌✌🏻
play different build and get lost 😂 throw yourself 🙂 I love that when I know I can make it worth and now its with your words for me as guidance.. thanks! a lot ziz bro
I just gave up on picking up rare items from the ground unless it's fractured
as a new player, thank you for this
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Put a like for that neuron activation, cause that 100% nailed PoE players xD
Looking at all your examples, I guess I haven't yet found a good item in all my years of playing PoE.
Are there also elemental melee builds or is that in general a archer thing concerning weapons?
after 2 weeks into league i don't identify any item that's not fractured and below ilevel 83 unless i am specifically looking for a low level fractured item to make crafting easier in some case
Very new to PoE, but been having fun so far. I have been playin PoE as a Guardian in stages. Learning tons. I am at the stage now, that I need to do better item management. I am sure I have on crap too, not knowing what to equip at this point. Tacking the skill tree is a whole other stage, but did manage to get to Act 4 as of yesterday!
I am new poe player her just startted during the last league, i cant craft in my hideout more than 30% res on my gear how do you get 70% res on the gear any suggestion?
Harvest bench spam 'reforge including fire/cold/lightning mod' will eventually land you t1 resist of one or two of those types. You can view tiers of mods by enabling extended item descriptions in settings and holding alt over the item.
@@otter1428 ok thank you i will try it out but whaere is the harvest bench is it the same as crafting bench?
You just find it off the ground with 70%+ resistances, and if you have an open suffix you can craft a 30% resistance on the bench, like you said.
-Skryah
So what item filter should we get?
Semi strict or strict