The Rare Yet Beautiful HSV VT Clubsport! What Happened To Them All?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @TheTruckdriver999
    @TheTruckdriver999 3 месяца назад +2

    Love seeing a younger generation continuing the passion for the V8

  • @victorpeirce4753
    @victorpeirce4753 4 месяца назад +39

    *2 people, nearly a full tank of fuel and does a flat 5. Would be in the 4s with 1 person. Very impressive. Those 3.9 diff gears really wake them up, especially with a 4L6OE. It makes 1st and 2nd gear really short. Perfect street car that would chop 99% of cars off a set of traffic lights. 💯%*

    • @davothegreat9990
      @davothegreat9990 4 месяца назад +6

      In the dry yeah. Even an i30n dct that's fwd can do 5s flat

    • @BrickLayingStud
      @BrickLayingStud 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@davothegreat9990 Yeah but they're a hatchback and 90% of blokes here in Aus wouldn't wanna be caught dead in one. Also they may hit 100 roughly the same but this Clubby is climbing much faster than the i30n

    • @dw2176
      @dw2176 4 месяца назад +3

      except a tesla

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +6

      Very healthy for a 25 year old car eh

    • @davothegreat9990
      @davothegreat9990 4 месяца назад +6

      @@BrickLayingStud changing the narrative. Must be getting desperate.🤣

  • @BBGuitars
    @BBGuitars 4 месяца назад +24

    5 seconds was solid, big horses are cool but without traction its nothing, well balanced setup going on here!

  • @deanpolis4516
    @deanpolis4516 4 месяца назад +14

    Wow impressive 0-100 time, and that sweet noise on top of it. The tri spoke wheels really give the retro vibe and makes the car stand out.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      Couldn't agree more! Very healthy for the age

  • @victorpeirce4753
    @victorpeirce4753 4 месяца назад +27

    *The reason the oil light came on in the O-1OOKMH run is a problem from factory. When you punch it in 1st gear all of the oil rushes to the back of the sump and it can starve the oil pickup of oil. Before it was recalled and had baffle plates put in, Holden recommended to run an extra litre of oil to stop the problem. This Clubsport has either not had the recall fixed, or he hasn't checked his oil in a while. The first LS1s had a problem with burning a fair bit of oil between service intervals. Tell the owner to check his oil more often, or run an extra litre of oil before Uncle Rodney starts knocking.💯%*

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +2

      thanks for that tip! i wasn't sure what happened their

    • @AdamSWL
      @AdamSWL 4 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely this.
      I know someone who had the issue in his then new WH Statesman.
      Towing a decent sized trailer up a long incline and bad things happened when the motor got starved of oil.
      Holden did not want to know about it at the time.

  • @No1karez
    @No1karez 4 месяца назад +14

    This was 1 car I wanted to own when I was younger. I still appreciate the look of this model and when you have those upgrades you'd be more than content with it. Very nice example!! Worth taking to meet and greets

  • @hoonaticbloggs5402
    @hoonaticbloggs5402 4 месяца назад +13

    😁 mine is here in the U.K. in the shed getting an engine refresh. Mine is the same colour, silver frost metallic. Manual box. Coulson leather ,cam ,diff, heads, throttle bodies 😊

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      That’s awesome man! Love to hear that

    • @09berniemoore
      @09berniemoore 4 месяца назад +1

      You have the R8, very nice!!!!

  • @thatguyben3128
    @thatguyben3128 4 месяца назад +5

    _As an ex-Ford guy Ive always thought the VT had timeless styling and this example is perfect representation, sweet ride Tyler 🤙🏼_

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      It looks so good eh 25 years later

  • @_wallnutz_
    @_wallnutz_ 4 месяца назад +4

    Stuck in my memory from first seeing a red one back in the day. They look so cool.

  • @mikelightfoot2136
    @mikelightfoot2136 4 месяца назад +1

    I saved a VT LS1 Clubby just days from the wreckers back in late 2020, quick tidy up to a 3 year resto. Big cam and a high stall it’s pure fun to drive. Shame can’t add a pic here. Great vid love your work!

  • @andrewjames3708
    @andrewjames3708 4 месяца назад +4

    owner loves it and knows how to drive it! so good

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      He definitely likes to send it (off camera even more 😳🤣)

  • @pete508
    @pete508 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice VT Clubby Tyler rare to see these days & fast too she's a keeper,great work Johnny legend 👍

  • @russo187
    @russo187 4 месяца назад +4

    Sweet ride...there's a nice blue VT Clubby where I live with similar mods... sounds so good

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      Getting so rare now.. amazing cars

  • @ArchimedeanEye
    @ArchimedeanEye 4 месяца назад +4

    VT was the smoothest shape of them all, basically a 4 door Monaro.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      interesting description.. almost can see it at the front eh

  • @heginoz1
    @heginoz1 4 месяца назад +1

    man ,that hooked up sweet,old mates done an awsome job on the build

  • @islasdad5775
    @islasdad5775 4 месяца назад +2

    Yep would definitely still have to my favourite styled HSV, closely followed by the VZ Senator. 🤤

  • @markblackwell7927
    @markblackwell7927 4 месяца назад +2

    Don't see these cars everyday...love the shape....the LS1s sound so tuff....hold onto that one....great review...

  • @thefjirnyjourney8756
    @thefjirnyjourney8756 4 месяца назад +1

    Another very nice Clubsport. Also try out the Wipertech blades. Ordered a pair for my partners VZ and have since ordered two more pairs for my VZ Calais and step daughters VS. They will be fitted when i get home. Thanks to you, Ross, for the discount code and also to Wipertech for a great product.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      Good call! Thanks for supporting the channel 💪

  • @KingL1berty
    @KingL1berty 4 месяца назад +6

    That black AU😮

  • @09berniemoore
    @09berniemoore 4 месяца назад

    The tri-spokes look amazing, vt clubby has the smoothest lines

  • @chrisflorian4308
    @chrisflorian4308 4 месяца назад +1

    Hello. This 3 spoke wheels are very unique and cool in a way. This V8 sound never gets old for me.
    A very good time from 0-100 !!! I love some kind of older cars like this. Sedan with big engine and power.
    Best regards Chris from Germany

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching from Germany 🇩🇪

  • @Pia-ho9dm
    @Pia-ho9dm 4 месяца назад +4

    I agree, the styling is timeless.

  • @deancameron6370
    @deancameron6370 3 месяца назад +1

    Love the VT clubsport beautiful car

  • @Shellchevy
    @Shellchevy 4 месяца назад

    I’ve got a Sting Red Hackett Edition VT series 2, my absolute pride and joy. I drive like a grandma these days, but the old girl definitely has the goods when I send the message. Both my kids learnt to drive in her and both have laid claim … not sure how I work out that little conundrum in the future haha.

  • @jeremykinniburgh8254
    @jeremykinniburgh8254 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice choice of car to review, I like the VT/VX series. I’d love to have a VX hsv senator with the factory wheels

  • @Gazzatron51
    @Gazzatron51 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice car! Loved the VT on it's release. I think they are still around, just hidden. They were the 2nd highest selling series behind the HQ i believe.

  • @troycreely9344
    @troycreely9344 4 месяца назад +1

    Best position for the window switches Vt & El nailed it 4 windows simultaneously.

  • @infinite2785
    @infinite2785 4 месяца назад +2

    That thing is clean! Big ups to the owner. Keep it up

  • @jordanscarreviews6164
    @jordanscarreviews6164 4 месяца назад +5

    Well done for reviewing another awesome Aussie car. You should review one with the last of the Australian 🇦🇺 built motor.

    • @shanesmith9356
      @shanesmith9356 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes I agree Jordan. HSV Vt Clubsport 5 litre with a 5 speed manual.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +3

      Would love to find a clean 5L VT

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RossReviewsau The 5.O sound good, but are slow ASF and couldn't pull the skin off a Rice Custard.

  • @martynstanley4357
    @martynstanley4357 4 месяца назад

    Such a good Video. I have a 1999 VT Clubsport R8 in my garage, its getting almost the same mods as this thing. Makes me feel even more excited seeing the potential. I'm still up in the air about the diff gear ratio i want. But this seem pretty solid :) Mine is in Blue 🥰

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you Ross for another Holden. I have noticed the Australians really take pride in their Holdens.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +2

      We love em here

    • @OLDS98
      @OLDS98 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RossReviewsau It is very apparent indeed. You have to appreciate that.

  • @MrTroytroy
    @MrTroytroy 4 месяца назад +2

    It goes to show that when power, traction and diff ratios are working with each other instead of against - the outcome is pretty good. 5secs - impressive for a 24 year old car. Most modern cars can’t achieve that

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      Very impressive for a car of that age eh!

  • @brantleyfoster021
    @brantleyfoster021 4 месяца назад +3

    Yes this is the one, I always thought this was the most beautiful Commodore shape.
    Such nice curves🤩

  • @JP211193
    @JP211193 4 месяца назад +3

    That LS might need a bit (or alot 😂)of a top up of oil.
    Seem to have the oil light on most of that 0-100 run

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +2

      I don’t notice till you guys mention 😅

    • @JP211193
      @JP211193 4 месяца назад

      @RossReviewsau it's just LS things burning a little oil.
      Throw 1-1.5L in and it will be right

  • @bill13690
    @bill13690 4 месяца назад +1

    Great content, Jono.
    I'm very excited & happy for your mate.To continue enjoying what he has, and I do wish him all the best. From William.

  • @allyboy8
    @allyboy8 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice looking unit. Love to have that parked in my garage. 👍

  • @xstremcarsausz7727
    @xstremcarsausz7727 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice Vt clubby don’t see many these days looks like it goes good enjoyed Ross Vz Glenn 🏎👍

  • @nicolaspefani7371
    @nicolaspefani7371 4 месяца назад +7

    Up the vt, best commodore ever in my opinion!!!!! The series 2 that is !!!!! The commodore that started the ls madness !!!!

  • @kakarot3584
    @kakarot3584 2 месяца назад

    Seen this at car meets, it’s better in person 👍🏻

  • @erraticskribbla3156
    @erraticskribbla3156 4 месяца назад +2

    oil light on at over 4500rpm seems healthy lol

  • @Nbbmx
    @Nbbmx 4 месяца назад +2

    What a machine, I bet you're appreciative you had the privilege of driving this beast. The question is, do you prefer the VT front end over the VX? Thanks Ross ❤

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      Very similar imo I love both the VT and VX

  • @Eichmen
    @Eichmen 4 месяца назад +3

    Stunning car 😮

  • @HarleyMcKenzie-ko6fn
    @HarleyMcKenzie-ko6fn 4 месяца назад

    Love it mate VT looks clean ❤

  • @davidduthie2550
    @davidduthie2550 4 месяца назад

    Ross told you before if coming to Gladstone QLD i've got 2012 SS Z series 51,000 klm 400 rwhp 12 second car love it

  • @shanesmith9356
    @shanesmith9356 4 месяца назад

    Very nice HSV VT CLUBSPORT! Well done to the owner. Fog lights are not genuine. They are very hard to find new. I was lucky to find a new set for my HSV, cost $1000.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      HSV Tax

    • @monkeymagic5058
      @monkeymagic5058 4 месяца назад

      Lucky I own a few sets :)

    • @pauledwards6446
      @pauledwards6446 4 месяца назад

      Paying a $1000 is not lucky

    • @shanesmith9356
      @shanesmith9356 4 месяца назад

      ​@pauledwards6446 I have seen exact same fog lights for sale for $2500! $1000 is lucky compared to that price. Non genuine fog lights are much cheaper but look crap.

  • @WarmGlassOfBatteryAcid
    @WarmGlassOfBatteryAcid 4 месяца назад

    The rims on it are 💣 af

  • @shaunmurray8132
    @shaunmurray8132 4 месяца назад

    Would'nt ignore that oil light. Had a race car go bang not long after that same behavior. Oil pumps clap out at about 200k km and the cam bearings have a habit of walking in them (exposing the oil port and dropping pressure), particulaly after you cam them and get more horse power out of older engines. Would recomend looking at getting the pump done and checking the cam bearings before its too late, ask me how i know...

  • @giggygiggy1393
    @giggygiggy1393 4 месяца назад +1

    Old mate knew there was no water in the windscreen jets or its totslly fcked...haha

  • @malooooooooo8
    @malooooooooo8 8 дней назад

    I miss my old vt gts #069, didn’t have the ls tho, she had a 355 stroker.
    Struggled to sell it and I wish i didn’t.
    Wonder if it’s still on the road these days.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  8 дней назад

      Let’s hope it’s still going strong

  • @nickparrey8290
    @nickparrey8290 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome car , credit to the owner. Sounds amazing and chasing this note. Any chance of getting the full exhaust specs

    • @tylernguyen7925
      @tylernguyen7925 4 месяца назад +1

      3 to 3 1/2 inch exhaust, hurricane extractors and cats

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      Great car

    • @nickparrey8290
      @nickparrey8290 4 месяца назад

      ⁠@@tylernguyen7925 So the tailpipe at the rear is twin 3 1/2 inch ? Awesome car mate , love the sound

  • @Evilenvyyou
    @Evilenvyyou 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice car mate sounds nice

  • @anish-79
    @anish-79 4 месяца назад

    Blast From The Past. Holden Fan Boyz loved it and Ford Fans hated it. Reason 5.0 Windsor no match for LS1 and 5.6 Windsor not enough produced. So many VT SS and Clubsport were sold but don't see much on the roads now dayz.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      Yup sad that so many haven’t made it through to today..

  • @anthonyrear7237
    @anthonyrear7237 4 месяца назад +2

    old mates oil pressure may need attn

  • @justinmcgill4806
    @justinmcgill4806 20 дней назад

    My second dream car only after the Mazda FD RX7

  • @tyrallsutherland
    @tyrallsutherland 4 месяца назад

    That guy looks like a good sort, I like what he’s done with the car 👌 I had a xu6 vt once, it was whack

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      I love the VT.. sad we don’t see them on the road more often

  • @theov2670
    @theov2670 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice but yeah Series II, 1st gen VT would be better with the proper GM Holden 304ci V8.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      would love to find one

    • @shanesmith9356
      @shanesmith9356 4 месяца назад

      Yes I agree a HSV VT CLUBSPORT with an Australian made 5 litre engine and 5 speed manual is way better. Not as fast but sound much better with a good exhaust system.

    • @mattwoodland5433
      @mattwoodland5433 3 месяца назад

      Nah you guys dont know what youre talking about. The old 5L VT verison were cast Iron blocks. Heavy as fuck. Slow. The LS1 was all Alloy, lighter, faster, better. Period.

  • @kajak012
    @kajak012 4 месяца назад +7

    VT series 2 ls1 ?

  • @johanziersch9230
    @johanziersch9230 21 день назад

    Much prefer the VT HSV over the VX HSV

  • @poggerboy-br9ei
    @poggerboy-br9ei 4 месяца назад

    I think the vt is somewhat forgotten because of the monaro returning and it's a coupe

  • @petermurgatroyd2002
    @petermurgatroyd2002 4 месяца назад

    I don’t believe that car is the R8 version of the model either Ross. In the VT not all Clubsport’s were R8s you had to pay extra for the Coulson seats and the bigger brakes/wheels.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      It’s not an R8 no Coulson seats

  • @dw2176
    @dw2176 4 месяца назад +1

    ooph thats a spicy red magic lamp

  • @Dohy111
    @Dohy111 4 месяца назад +2

    Flash back to playing NFS in the old PS days and being stoked to race a VT 💪❤️

  • @peterlee6745
    @peterlee6745 4 месяца назад

    LS1 loved Them HAD a Vauxhall VXR / 5.7 in UK Sad There Going

  • @brokenlegz
    @brokenlegz 4 месяца назад

    Looking forward to the AU in the background

  • @ozzyrock1523
    @ozzyrock1523 4 месяца назад

    That Clubby is swee-t HOLDEN POWER V8 THUNDER 🦁

  • @rtabug323
    @rtabug323 4 месяца назад

    Looks tough on the tri spokes.
    I have one here in NZ. blue with leather interior 160kms.
    Looking to sell. What are they worth in Australia????

  • @EnkeiTenjin
    @EnkeiTenjin 4 месяца назад +3

    The Ls1 in VT form was NOT a bulletproof engine Ross. The pistons would regularly do ellipticals in the bores. Piston slap destroyed a lot of them hence why you don’t see them as often. I dare say it left a bad taste and not as many people gravitated towards the VT clubby.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      damn i knew their must have been a reason they are rare :(

    • @beje6947
      @beje6947 4 месяца назад

      Series one were Mexico build and used odd parts which meant piston slap bottom end knock and something else water pumps maybe a friend just said.

    • @mattwoodland5433
      @mattwoodland5433 3 месяца назад

      Not true at all. The LS1 in the SS from 99 onwards they had some problems. The HSV version is bullet proof. They only made 270 odd of these with the LS1. I have a black VT R8 with the LS1, 1 of 70 in manual. Had it ten years. No issues whatsoever. Awesome cars.

  • @oonfa
    @oonfa 4 месяца назад

    I owned a VT Senator Series 2 build number 0001. It was cammed & high-stalled with all the other bits to go with it. Bought it when I was 21 and had it for 13 years until some low life deadbeat decided to steal it 5 years ago. Sad times.

  • @rorirocks6663
    @rorirocks6663 4 месяца назад

    Dont know whats more beautiful the car or the Flannie your wearing
    Sorry, im just a massive flannel hoader 😂😂

  • @Cairnsxr8
    @Cairnsxr8 4 месяца назад

    Nice car

  • @dareman9327
    @dareman9327 4 месяца назад +1

    when he did 0 to 100 his oil light came on I would look at that

    • @tylernguyen7925
      @tylernguyen7925 4 месяца назад +1

      got it sorted out

    • @hoonaticbloggs5402
      @hoonaticbloggs5402 4 месяца назад +2

      One extra litre of oil fixes that 😂

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +1

      😅

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@hoonaticbloggs5402 It temporary fixes the problem.
      With the Series 1 LS1 5.7 V8 they had a factory recall because if you punched it flat to the floor in 1st gear and 2nd, all the oil rushed to the back of the Sump, starving the oil pickup of oil. 3.9 diff gears only makes the problem even worse.
      When Holden made the recall,they put baffle plates in the Sump to stop this problem.
      You could get it fixed under recall,or you can just always run an extra 1 litre of oil and constantly check the oil level. The Series 1 LS1 5.7 also used a fair bit of oil between service intervals.
      Also on a cold start on a cold morning, you could hear the piston knock and rattle a little bit until it warmed up a bit.💯%

  • @slotxz9859
    @slotxz9859 4 месяца назад

    An intack headliner u know shes mint😂

  • @ianmccarthy4195
    @ianmccarthy4195 4 месяца назад +1

    I got a question whos going to tune the the car ?

    • @tylernguyen7925
      @tylernguyen7925 4 месяца назад +2

      gm motorsport

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 2 месяца назад +1

      Hey Ian. The Tuna is going to Tune the car and put an extra litre of oil in her before she go bang.💯😀

  • @leeperkins84
    @leeperkins84 4 месяца назад

    Yeah, the VT has aged well, but I'm biased as I own one.

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад

      They look amazing

    • @leeperkins84
      @leeperkins84 4 месяца назад

      @@RossReviewsau that is my favourite colour, Orion Frost.
      My R8 is good old white.....
      Classy and clean.

  • @dashbel506
    @dashbel506 4 месяца назад

    Very nice 😊

  • @johanziersch9230
    @johanziersch9230 21 день назад

    But prefer the VX SS over the VT SS

  • @CHANANNAIRMOSHINGLEFAIRE
    @CHANANNAIRMOSHINGLEFAIRE 4 месяца назад

    keep it out of the crusher👌less street playn son.

  • @joshuaheise7293
    @joshuaheise7293 4 месяца назад +1

    Destroyed by miner's the had the money but they drove them like they stole them

  • @hainesy67
    @hainesy67 4 месяца назад

    Good Aussie muscle

  • @rewirauna9511
    @rewirauna9511 4 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @CHINGY1993
    @CHINGY1993 4 месяца назад +2

    LOL 0-100 pull oil light comes on dash lmfaoooo

  • @MrBillydoab
    @MrBillydoab 4 месяца назад +1

    First comment hell yeah

  • @undy22
    @undy22 4 месяца назад

    5sec oooofftt nice as

  • @obamabinladon5577
    @obamabinladon5577 4 месяца назад

    Lad

  • @jblfamily02
    @jblfamily02 4 месяца назад

    The bogans got em

  • @paulllacey1344
    @paulllacey1344 4 месяца назад

    Looks like shit with those wheels

  • @SassyXR6007
    @SassyXR6007 4 месяца назад +2

    TRUMP ❤❤❤❤❤
    Yep it's me again 😂

  • @ToranaA9X308
    @ToranaA9X308 4 месяца назад

    Nice rig. 🖕Kamala Harris TRUMP 2024 ❤❤❤❤❤❤👊

  • @markk-i2v
    @markk-i2v Месяц назад

    that thing has the perfect sound of a v8

  • @erraticskribbla3156
    @erraticskribbla3156 4 месяца назад +4

    why is the driver like a bobble head ? needs to work on his neck muscles or take his meds

    • @RossReviewsau
      @RossReviewsau  4 месяца назад +11

      Don’t be rude man he’s got a condition

    • @JJ-qn8sm
      @JJ-qn8sm 4 месяца назад +3

      @@RossReviewsau is he a tesla owner? it looks like he's sitting on a 400v battery.

    • @willfindlay3915
      @willfindlay3915 4 месяца назад +1

      @erraticskribbla3156 I bet you have a big fat pole up your @$$ need to work on pulling it out

    • @undy22
      @undy22 4 месяца назад

      @@erraticskribbla3156 rude

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@JJ-qn8sm Do you feel good putting other people down ? Tyler was great. He was polite, he's a great driver, has a beautiful car, and even better human being.
      You are the one with a problem.
      Go look in the mirror and you will see a sad sack of 💩 looking back at you.

  • @mickking5913
    @mickking5913 4 месяца назад

    LS 1 5.7 ltrs of the best V8 ever put in a Holden,stock standard they are awesome,wack a few extras on and they are fast as fuck.

  • @jojotakuma4622
    @jojotakuma4622 4 месяца назад

    Excellent

  • @DrinkinDaJuice
    @DrinkinDaJuice 4 месяца назад

    They used to be everywhere on the roads but eventually most of them were the victim of poorly skilled drivers and they ended up doing a wheezy into a tree or a power pole, as tasmanians would say.