no need to disagree, i like my polaris sleds, my buddy likes his ski doo, my other friends ride cat & yamaha, bottom line we are all out on the snow having fun
Excellent comparison! Thanks for just telling us the facts, and letting us decide which is best, instead of trying to convince us one is better than the other.
Just upgraded from a 800 tnt to the 850xrs after a day riding bumps that did me right it. The first rip on the xrs blew me away ! Just have to figure out best set up for her. Cant beat up polaris , they are right up there with skidoo but ,,,,,,,,, haha. Cheers. See you all next season.
the 2021 Old Forge Shoot out (with official timing equipment) had the ski-doo faster (same rider/track) in the 1000 foot drag. I guess if your going farther than that it could be different. They were racing a Polaris 850 INDY VR1 137 vs Ski doo 850 Renegade (137) XRS. Ski doo was faster at all the time points (60', 330', 500' 660' 1000'). At 1000' ski doo best time was 9.24 with a best speed of 100.4 mph. Polaris best time was 9.53 and best speed 93.2 mph. The top speed difference would indicate the Polaris wasn't going to catch up if they raced further. You can google the results to see the details.
The Ski doo also had the lower lug track and taller gearing. Vs Polaris taller lug and lower gearing. Polaris does offer the taller gearing on the lower lug track. Just go on the snowmobile gearing websight and type in RPM's, The Sleds gearing and Drive cog size. Bingo You have your speeds.
I've seen these sleds go head to head and it's too close to call usually the fat guys grips out of the hole,than the little light guy blows by by 60 mph 😂😂
Ski doo get's Super easy FUEL mpg To make it to the next gas stop EPS in NB. As i can be a long drive up trail 52. One way for me is 97miles from truck parking to the first gas stop.
There isn't a snowmobile manufactured that I don't love and wouldn't ride😂😂 But being a mechanic my whole life i would definitely rather have to rebuild the Polaris over the skidoos! Man they remind me of working on BMWs and other European cars!! Sometimes over engineered! And over complicated!!
I ride a Gade 800 Etec. I don’t care if it’s the fastest. How often are you going 100 anyways. I’m waiting to see what Doo does in the 650 class. Personally I fit better in the Doo and like the ride. I ride with guys that have both Doo and Poo. Ride what you like. If and when I decide to look for a new sled I will try any brand that has a 2 stroke. Brand makes no difference to me, quality does. Just get out and ride, have fun and stay safe.
Overall package include Price, Reliability, Workmanship? I want sled that is reliable. I can pass on speed (rarely in top rpm)? $16,000.00 lot of cash.
Polaris has it all over Ski Doo in the ability to customize and variety of colors--I keep looking and thinking how great they look and I used to ride Polaris's and had very good luck with them. I ride a '17 Renegade 850 and fuel economy ranges from 16-20. Amazes me when my buddy on a 600R Enduro gets the same or less mpg's. Eight fifty does use quite a bit more oil. Hopefully Doo will come out with decent color options for next year and I'll order a '24. Not holding my breath after reviewing the last few years colors.
They are almost identical. When I ride with a buddy we start both with full tanks. When we stop for fuel we are almost the same at fill up within a few 10's. This was duplicated all year long not just one time. This is done with both of us riding about the same amount of thumb. can't really say on oil both really close but seems his doo uses a touch more but never really confirmed that.
I've ridden both and the 850 doo is much more responsive both engine and clutching. The 850 pol isn't nearly as responsive, it pulls good up top but low and mid is all doo
In what universe does the cars have more adjustments for the suspension? Skidoo took away rebound adjustment and hasn’t had high speed compression adjustment in years. The XCR offers high and low speed as well as rebound. Yes you can move the Rmotion x rails to one of 2 positions. But I don’t see that justifying the statement.
The regular xcr doesn't have rebound in the rear and on the pro cc we only have 3 rear spring adjustments...The only velocity shocks with rebound are on that 600 factory race sled you can see one on That Alaska guy, or on wenninger 227? He's a cross country racer not sure if I have # right 😂😂 those sleds have some cool stuff 👍👍
That doesn't apply to any late models sleds anymore. Unless there was a straight design flaw and recall. No matter what brand your talking about. Just a comment from someone that rides older sleds, and most likely doesn't take care of the one they have.
You reviewed 2 high performance trail machines and never talked about bumps. Real world bumps on the trails..... as you said, who cares about top speed, what are your thoughts on jigglers, trail junk, whoops, rollers.... ya know, the crap us trail riders run into and often dread.
I have a 2020 137 850 my buddy has a renegade 850 not the xrs and to be honest you can't go wrong with either machine they are both rockets his is a little faster top end but not as easy to ride in the woods pulls flipping hard right at engagement mine pulls nice and easy until about 6100 RPMs then she grabs hard better be holding on. In either sled😁
Hey did you get the 2021 flash from the dealer yet? I have your same sled and I finally got out 2 days ago and my lower rpm power 5500 and up to the hit is vastly improved!! It doesn't have that flat feeling throttle response before you get into the power at 8000 it was like not enough power to too much power 😂on the trail with that 2020 flash,if you haven't done it yet do it! my dealer did it while I waited outside!! Have a great one hope this helps....
Great awesome video, I disagree with the power , skidoo has more pull and power , I’ve had both , the skidoo is smoother, however I like the handling of a Polaris, but I’m a skidoo guy , and I have 2022 mighty Mach z 900r ace turbo , I have the best of the best , sled is a monster in power and best shocks and suspension now ,
Who is a amateur ? If you don't know how to ride a snowmobile with 850 then you are amateur, but if you ride a snowmobile that has a 600 then you are not amateur and should not buy 850 instead buy a 600? This like saying that I'm not aloud to buy an snowmobile with 850 because because I'm not amateur ? Since I never had a mustang I need to be amateur to buy one ? You need to stop this stupid logic and you are hurting the sport! I don't see this said anywhere but in snowmobile press coverage. I've said this before the track is just as important as the 850 engines if you can't get hp on to the snow it don't matter what 850 you got ! Polaris has come a long way from that poor 900 to compete with the 1000 ski-doo. I'd imagine polaris riders don't want to be reminded of that. Lol
Only to 100mph thsn after the etec pulls away google it id rather be on the etec for top end plus the patriot needs to be tuned at 1000 miles i cant tune my shit like that im getting a etec over the patriot
@@kyletracey5819 yup the 850 etec is faster at the very top end the polaris falls flat at like 110-114 mph and the etec still climbs and starts to hit its peak at 128mph
Google is for democraps.. I don’t ride a doo or a Polaris but ride with both. The Polaris is faster but both get crushed by another brand in the bottom mid and top.
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 we are talking about 850’s the Polaris is faster. I’m sorry. Doo people cry over this but it’s a fact. And like I said I don’t ride either of them and it’s so fun smoking both of them. Both weak IMO
Guess you missed the last two shootouts where the skidoo was faster. Either can be faster than the other they are a close match. From what I’ve seen the drag is across up. And the etec usually has more top end
no need to disagree, i like my polaris sleds, my buddy likes his ski doo, my other friends ride cat & yamaha, bottom line we are all out on the snow having fun
Doesnt matter what you ride. End of the day everyone makes it back to the loading zone after a great day of riping ! Cheers
Isn't that what it is all about? Live to ride!
End of the day we wanna RIDE
@@type1warroirrath427 best part when trails need to be put in taken out, brushed rerouted we all are there because we enjoy our sport
That’s what it’s all about having great times and memories for the rest of your life . Doesn’t matter what brand as long as you are riding
Excellent comparison! Thanks for just telling us the facts, and letting us decide which is best, instead of trying to convince us one is better than the other.
Gas and oil consumption? Reliability? Belt life? Maintenence?
U have a great way of passing on your knowledge...easy to hear .. and understand..and to the point..fine job Sir!
Just upgraded from a 800 tnt to the 850xrs after a day riding bumps that did me right it. The first rip on the xrs blew me away !
Just have to figure out best set up for her.
Cant beat up polaris , they are right up there with skidoo but ,,,,,,,,, haha. Cheers.
See you all next season.
I like the Polaris xcr 850 but I can't see paying 17,000 plus tax for a snowmobile.
the 2021 Old Forge Shoot out (with official timing equipment) had the ski-doo faster (same rider/track) in the 1000 foot drag. I guess if your going farther than that it could be different. They were racing a Polaris 850 INDY VR1 137 vs Ski doo 850 Renegade (137) XRS. Ski doo was faster at all the time points (60', 330', 500' 660' 1000'). At 1000' ski doo best time was 9.24 with a best speed of 100.4 mph. Polaris best time was 9.53 and best speed 93.2 mph. The top speed difference would indicate the Polaris wasn't going to catch up if they raced further. You can google the results to see the details.
The Ski doo also had the lower lug track and taller gearing. Vs Polaris taller lug and lower gearing. Polaris does offer the taller gearing on the lower lug track.
Just go on the snowmobile gearing websight and type in RPM's, The Sleds gearing and Drive cog size. Bingo You have your speeds.
I've seen these sleds go head to head and it's too close to call usually the fat guys grips out of the hole,than the little light guy blows by by 60 mph 😂😂
Ski doo get's Super easy FUEL mpg To make it to the next gas stop EPS in NB. As i can be a long drive up trail 52. One way for me is 97miles from truck parking to the first gas stop.
There isn't a snowmobile manufactured that I don't love and wouldn't ride😂😂 But being a mechanic my whole life i would definitely rather have to rebuild the Polaris over the skidoos! Man they remind me of working on BMWs and other European cars!! Sometimes over engineered! And over complicated!!
I ride a Gade 800 Etec. I don’t care if it’s the fastest. How often are you going 100 anyways. I’m waiting to see what Doo does in the 650 class. Personally I fit better in the Doo and like the ride. I ride with guys that have both Doo and Poo. Ride what you like. If and when I decide to look for a new sled I will try any brand that has a 2 stroke. Brand makes no difference to me, quality does. Just get out and ride, have fun and stay safe.
Overall package include Price, Reliability, Workmanship? I want sled that is reliable. I can pass on speed (rarely in top rpm)? $16,000.00 lot of cash.
I'm a Polaris guy.. SKI DOO has 100% way better materials and feels. An little weird things creep up that make you go. Why didn't Polaris do that!
Polaris has it all over Ski Doo in the ability to customize and variety of colors--I keep looking and thinking how great they look and I used to ride Polaris's and had very good luck with them. I ride a '17 Renegade 850 and fuel economy ranges from 16-20. Amazes me when my buddy on a 600R Enduro gets the same or less mpg's. Eight fifty does use quite a bit more oil. Hopefully Doo will come out with decent color options for next year and I'll order a '24. Not holding my breath after reviewing the last few years colors.
I agree totally. Just bought polaris 850 love it
Agreed on what I saw of the 2 850’s. Polaris is a much more fun engine and I don’t ride either brand
@@oldjarhead386 Exactly. Everyone knows the skidoo 850 has the most arm wrenching torque. Polaris has a smooth power band.
How has the Reliability been overall with that Polaris 850 ?
The 850 ski doo is way more efficient. Better on oil and fuel.
About the same on fuel, and whatever Skidoo did to the 850 it is not any better on oil than the Polaris since 2020
They are almost identical. When I ride with a buddy we start both with full tanks. When we stop for fuel we are almost the same at fill up within a few 10's. This was duplicated all year long not just one time. This is done with both of us riding about the same amount of thumb. can't really say on oil both really close but seems his doo uses a touch more but never really confirmed that.
I've ridden both and the 850 doo is much more responsive both engine and clutching. The 850 pol isn't nearly as responsive, it pulls good up top but low and mid is all doo
The 850xrs gets there quick ! That new clutch is smooth . Love my 850xrs
I agree I have 2020 xc 137 and there definitely lazy in the low and mid range, You really have to be hard on the throttle to keep it on the boil!!
@@youareright5431 There was no Matryx 850 in 2020, unless you actually have a 21' Snowcheck
@@hermitrob5481 I never said I had a matryx? I have a 20 850 xc137....
Nice video
In what universe does the cars have more adjustments for the suspension? Skidoo took away rebound adjustment and hasn’t had high speed compression adjustment in years. The XCR offers high and low speed as well as rebound. Yes you can move the Rmotion x rails to one of 2 positions. But I don’t see that justifying the statement.
The regular xcr doesn't have rebound in the rear and on the pro cc we only have 3 rear spring adjustments...The only velocity shocks with rebound are on that 600 factory race sled you can see one on That Alaska guy, or on wenninger 227? He's a cross country racer not sure if I have # right 😂😂 those sleds have some cool stuff 👍👍
What about fuel economy. My experience has shown Polaris to be very thirsty. Using double the fuel . Even my 850 against 650s
If the tall stock xrs suffers in high speed cornering, how does an Accelerated technologies lowering mod compare with Matrix at high speed cornering?
How about a reliability/longevity test.
If they weren't junk after 4000 miles I'd consider a polaris.
Funny my XLT over 17,000 and still running great when sold. My 850 over 7200 and still running with no issues. Maybe I just got lucky twice.
from experience they last
I hear ya
That doesn't apply to any late models sleds anymore. Unless there was a straight design flaw and recall. No matter what brand your talking about. Just a comment from someone that rides older sleds, and most likely doesn't take care of the one they have.
Love Québec..Merci..🚩📶😎
You reviewed 2 high performance trail machines and never talked about bumps. Real world bumps on the trails..... as you said, who cares about top speed, what are your thoughts on jigglers, trail junk, whoops, rollers.... ya know, the crap us trail riders run into and often dread.
Rewatching your videos, just waiting for snow
Great video
Let’s see a box stock radar run with the same amount of studs.
So basically the Polaris is the clear winner and the Ski Doo is a piece of shit. Got it. Thanx.
I ordered a 2022 Polaris xcr 850
"I won't say I prefer one... but I prefer the polaris" heheh
And I prefer the Ski-Doo, so it must be better! lol
@@Upracefan My dad rode Ski-Doo so it’s the best. - Use this line for politics or vehicle brands, it also works.
@@dragoonTT what if he was wrong ?? 😜
The polaris is definitely faster at one thing, a trip to the shop for repairs!
Thank you for the honesty. While you did not pick your favorite child, you did say what each did well. That is good enough for me. Haha
I have a 2020 137 850 my buddy has a renegade 850 not the xrs and to be honest you can't go wrong with either machine they are both rockets his is a little faster top end but not as easy to ride in the woods pulls flipping hard right at engagement mine pulls nice and easy until about 6100 RPMs then she grabs hard better be holding on. In either sled😁
Hey did you get the 2021 flash from the dealer yet? I have your same sled and I finally got out 2 days ago and my lower rpm power 5500 and up to the hit is vastly improved!! It doesn't have that flat feeling throttle response before you get into the power at 8000 it was like not enough power to too much power 😂on the trail with that 2020 flash,if you haven't done it yet do it! my dealer did it while I waited outside!! Have a great one hope this helps....
As far as guys like me , its always a pissing contest lol.
Polaris pulls harder all that matters at that price
Somebody talk me out of a 650 for an 850
No F n way it’s faster than the ski doo 850 I’ve seen different results.
Great awesome video, I disagree with the power , skidoo has more pull and power , I’ve had both , the skidoo is smoother, however I like the handling of a Polaris, but I’m a skidoo guy , and I have 2022 mighty Mach z 900r ace turbo , I have the best of the best , sled is a monster in power and best shocks and suspension now ,
Polaris wins at blown engines
Ahhh... and The Ski-Poodle wins the Strung out Ostrich that hit a wall look..
And fouled plugs....
And det warnings
Says the guy buying belts by the pallet for his Doo lol
There both equal it depends on who you ask
Yes after arcticcat
Quit with the zed crap. Its ZEEEE
Who is a amateur ? If you don't know how to ride a snowmobile with 850 then you are amateur, but if you ride a snowmobile that has a 600 then you are not amateur and should not buy 850 instead buy a 600? This like saying that I'm not aloud to buy an snowmobile with 850 because because I'm not amateur ? Since I never had a mustang I need to be amateur to buy one ? You need to stop this stupid logic and you are hurting the sport! I don't see this said anywhere but in snowmobile press coverage.
I've said this before the track is just as important as the 850 engines if you can't get hp on to the snow it don't matter what 850 you got !
Polaris has come a long way from that poor 900 to compete with the 1000 ski-doo. I'd imagine polaris riders don't want to be reminded of that. Lol
The Polaris is faster
Only to 100mph thsn after the etec pulls away google it id rather be on the etec for top end plus the patriot needs to be tuned at 1000 miles i cant tune my shit like that im getting a etec over the patriot
Etec is faster
Booster injectors! 850xrs. 👍👍
@@kyletracey5819 yup the 850 etec is faster at the very top end the polaris falls flat at like 110-114 mph and the etec still climbs and starts to hit its peak at 128mph
Nope the etec is faster google it
Google is for democraps.. I don’t ride a doo or a Polaris but ride with both. The Polaris is faster but both get crushed by another brand in the bottom mid and top.
@@kurtwilliams9114 nope doo is faster f polaris i couldnt gst my 2014 polRid indy 800sp to pass 100mph slow shit
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 we are talking about 850’s the Polaris is faster. I’m sorry. Doo people cry over this but it’s a fact. And like I said I don’t ride either of them and it’s so fun smoking both of them. Both weak IMO
@@kurtwilliams9114 idc go ride your 4 stroke turbo im talking about only the 850s them 4 strokes are tanks but fast i know ive tried em b4
Guess you missed the last two shootouts where the skidoo was faster. Either can be faster than the other they are a close match. From what I’ve seen the drag is across up. And the etec usually has more top end
I just came here to read all the 'yellow bleeder' comments.