I completely agree! I really love the show Outlander and it really doesn’t need the crazy graphic sex scenes to convey the story. It could be toned done WAY more and still be a powerfully told story.
I agree to disagree YOU apply for a job as an actor to a drama. Dramas may require some intimate scenes because they reflect realty of today and life. To decide mid project you are not going to kiss the other actor is unheard of and makes no sense. ITs like a porn star refusing to do the dirty it does not make sense. THIS GUY could have refuse the roll and walked. SOMETHING IS WRONG with him get rid of him or LET HIM OUT OF HIS CONTRACT and he can do Disney. He accepted the job its its HIM TOTALLY!
@@sofiaruss8958 That's completely sensible. With all of the entertainment choices out there, I'm a little sick of people who'd rather bitch about sex in movies instead of simply watching a different movie. Some Puritans in America would prefer to condemn things they dislike rather than simply switch channels or theaters. I hate watching movie violence. So I don't rent anything by Quentin Tarantino. And I don't whine on the internet about the killings and beatings in his films. His movies are for other people, not me. You did the right thing. You dislike sexy movies, so you watch films with less sex that you do like. Problem solved.
there are no SEX SCENE in DRAMAS. SEX SCENES is another industry. They have clothing on and barriers that we the audience cant see. He does not want to do DRAMAS QUIT go do Disney PURE and SIMPLE!
I was just talking with my partner about this the other day. To me, it is so unnecessary to see these super intimate sex scenes between the actors. I always think about how they are acting, it isn't real, and what do their real life partners think about it. I personally think intimate scenes in entertainment are yucky. I admire Penn for talking about it.
Explicit sex scenes are not necessary to tell the story depicted. Some things are best left to the imagination. No need to make actors feel obligated to perform what can be described as practically soft porn.
When there’s too many sex scenes it cheapens the story. One of the things I like about some kdramas is that the focus is in the story and the tension. Even a small touch of hands is a big deal. Sex has been cheapened throughout the years in the industry
This is so refreshing to hear him say that so happy someone said look lets ton it down for the sake of his privet life. . like you DONT always needs scenes like that like hello look at k-dramas they are so well done and the shows are so powerful.
Absolutely right, Penn Badgley! This goes with how your audience is feeling! We aren't watching just with our partners so it gets awkward for the rest of us too!
You are going to refuse to kiss the other actor intimately like a husband or wife because in real life you are married. NO you took the job to work ON A DRAMA not Disney a DRAMA and you do not want to do the roll you took THAT IS YOU. This is not the director problem its yours. He did not have to apply for that roll that's the problem here.
And by family I don't mean kids. It doesn't have to be kid friendly, but what if you're trying to watch a good show with good acting with your brother or your dad at home and a highly intense scene comes along🤨
I assume his body, because he is a healthy adult male, reacts to the stimuli. If you live in an honest relationship you don't want to get this stimuli while you are working.
Seems to me the difference is that none of the actors are actually killed in those scenes. Sometimes you have to wonder with sex scenes just how close the two are actually getting, what they're thinking, how they're feeling, etc. I'm not so sure Penn doesn't object to the killing. I know he thinks the show is some sort of allegory, and I did hear him mention he refused to take the part at first and they had to beg him. I watched the first two episodes of _You_ just to see what the shouting was about, and that was enough for me. I don't get it, other than he's awfully cute. LOL Still, murder mysteries and that sort of thing have always been part of drama. I try to avoid them myself. I much prefer stories about people trying to work out differences and problems in dramas rather than trying to figure out who done it or watching them do it. A little ribaldry isn't a bad thing (Shakespeare agreed), but whenever I see what I call a fake sex scene, I always wish they'd just fade to black before we had to see all that. It really isn't necessary. And, btw, neither is hideous graphic violence.
What a good guy. Film sex - along with violence - is getting more and more explicit, when it doesn’t need to be. It’s a quick way to pull an audience in by appealing to our base instincts when the story should be able to drive the drama
exactly. i dont know if u've watched euphoria..its for teens & in the very first episode u see extremely violent sex between a trans teen and a 50 year old man. When i finished the season i was in this dark depressed mood, everything was just way too much sex,heroin,violence,its too too much in today's material.
I like sexy romantic stuff, but dislike raunchy explicit scenes. Some actors won',t even kiss their costars due to commitment to their vows. I respect Penn..
Hopefully this will end rape scenes. It’s completely unnecessary, gratuitous and truly revolting. I can imagine it’s traumatic for the actors as well. You can only disassociate to a certain degree.
Bravo! It's his body and his life. Fantastic to hear that he wants to respect his partner and marriage. Acting is about a lot more than overused sex scenes.
I never really understood the point of sex scenes in shows. I don't think they should be abolished but there's no need to have them as frequent as they are and as explicit as they are. So many shows can't go 10 minutes without a sex scene. There are so many examples of amazing Korean TV shows that tell amazing stories with no sex scenes. It can be done in Hollywood too.
But in romance, the first time two characters have sex is part of moving the plot forward. I think we should just go back to the old school sex scenes. A sensual kiss, a look in his/her eyes then cut to the next morning with them waking up in bed together. We don't need to know if there was foreplay and what positions were used and who finished first. 🤦😂
I hate sex scenes in any show or movie and always fast forward. In my opinion those scenes add nothing to a storyline and not only make the viewers uncomfortable but I can imagine makes most actors uncomfortable.
Yes!!! If the actors are uncomfortable then I don't want to watch. Not to mention, it's mostly male directors. Some actresses have cried because of scenes. Nobody should have to do that for our "entertainment"
I stopped watching American TV because they have adults playing teens and five minutes into any show the adults are having sex as teen characters and this is why teens nowadays think that all teens are supposed to have sex. What they see is what they think is normal. All American shows have sex constantly in every episode. We can't even watch an action film without the sex scene. You can't watch a comedy without the sex scene either. The only movies you can watch as a family are animated and now they have adult animated shows too because once you add the sexy clothes and sex scene, it's not just a cartoon anymore. I watch international shows. They have intimate scenes but only when necessary to the plot, adults play adults, teens don't have sex in their shows and the adult on the show that have a sex scene aren't explicite. The sex is implied. I've never heard an actor say they love having sex scenes. Give us romance and love, not sex scenes. Allow us to use our imagination.
The time when actors where just actors is over, now there is No mystery, is very hard to appreciate a movie or a show without distractions because of information like this.
Actors are workers and they have the right to modify their working conditions. You (the show) doesn’t need extra sex scenes, what makes the show is the mystery.
@@Rinniantoinette yeah.. they do, but if they keep it to themselves viewers don't know , so when we watch the show , we can focus on the plot and the mystery is kept, is automatically distracting because now I know the actor feels uncomfortable with sex scenes , and I will be looking for tells 😝.
I like the way it's done here, not every project should have sex scenes, but the way it's done here, I like it. Unfortunately with shows like euphoria, we have become so incredibly desensitized the even if there was extremely violent sex, no one would even flinch. Not a good direction we're heading to.
Good, I'm glad. Sometimes, they just do too much of it. Sometimes, I won't even watch a movie if there are a lot of sex scenes in it. Over the years, they keep putting more and more of it and it's just to much anymore!
He’s married he shouldent have to kiss or touch other women if he doesn’t feel comfortable or if his wife isn’t okay with it. There’s plenty of other male actors that are comfortable with doing that so if a few aren’t it isn’t that serious, just have someone else do it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one! I fast forward through the sex scenes. To me it’s just unnecessary filler. Give me a good story line with a good actor! I can use my imagination thanks.
There's ways to film sex scenes in movies without actually having sex, the way it's shot/cut it can leave the audience to assume me that they had sex but not actually seeing the sex happen so I wonder if he's ok with doing that as alternative because he's right for saying and feeling that.
A single man will have sex scenes. I think that the amount shown depends on the shows needs. It wouldn’t make sense in You but does in Game of Thrones and Euphoria. It depends on what you are supposed to feel
Gratuitous sex, is frankly, disgusting, and i'm no prude! I agree the separate beds is ridiculous & twould have just been better to not even show them in the bedroom, but come on, it is now, so over the top, its obscene. But this is deliberate, intended to desensitize us to sex all the time, so we become more immune to all the actual sexual abuses, especially towards women, so its easier just to view us the always (complicit) sexual pleasures for men. It really dehumanizes us after awhile. Couple this with the constantly increasing violence, murders, & use of guns - on our screens; again, desensitize us and get us accustomed to just thinking its not really real & so what, regardless. It programs us to want more weapons of destruction and more readily to engage in using some type of violence to settle whatever - disagreements or problems - with others. They go hand in hand, almost! They won't stop either, until we stop watching it!!
As far as I'm concerned you can show intimacy in any way you want.... Show full on uncensored sex scenes or cut away or whatever.... And as a actor/actress you should be allowed to ask if it's okay too do less sex scenes, but you should also remember your job is to portray things and you yourself should try your best to decide early on weather or not your willing to do certain scenes and pick what you want to do carefully before accepting a script and role.
Turkish productions are beautiful and interesting and they NEVER include intimacy. That goes to show that a GREAT story can be told without that particular element. I wonder whose idea was that to begin with.
I think that has to do more with toeing the line with the Conservative sensibilities of the over represented religious zealots in Turkish society more than the will of Turkish artists.
It’s only awkward if u make it awkward. Sex is basically a part of every day life for us adults. Just like murder death stalking etc. we just don’t see it everyday. If u don’t feel comfortable skip through and move on not that hard
Are you saying you should feel comfortable watching someone get murdered too? Going to the bathroom is also part of daily life but I don't need to see other people doing it, let alone be judged if I don't feel comfortable with it.
I agree to disagree YOU apply for a job as an actor to a drama. Dramas may require some intimate scenes because they reflect realty of today and life. To decide mid project you are not going to kiss the other actor is unheard of and makes no sense. ITs like a porn star refusing to do the dirty it does not make sense. THIS GUY could have refuse the roll and walked. SOMETHING IS WRONG with him get rid of him or LET HIM OUT OF HIS CONTRACT and he can do Disney. He accepted the job its its HIM TOTALLY!
The best sex scenes are the funny ones that don't end up in any sex. Like the one between Whoopi Goldberg and Ted Danson in _Made in America._ I almost died laughing. 😁 Too bad they can't all be that hilarious-and clothed.
Considering a large portion of actors and actresses date, have sex, and mate with each other. I wouldn't be surprised. I literally read an article not to long ago where an intimacy coordinator literally would tell male actors that if they got an erection as a reaction to their female costar's body and/or just performing intimate scenes that it was okay. She wanted to make the actors feel comfortable.
Insecurities getting the best of people, it used to be a part of a job. Just business, Good actors can mentally check out and understand its fictional.
I agree I think that you can't make it sound like you are pinning this decision on your wife. That's not fair to her now if it makes her uncomfortable because she knows it makes him uncomfortable than ok that makes sense. But don't use marriage as an excuse, I'm proud of him for standing up for himself and saying I don't want to do this all the time but if you can't separate the two you don't belong in this business.
I've never been much of a Fan of Rap Music. I think the only rap albums i ever purchased, were those from NWA & Public Enemy, & 4 all i know, those are considered Hip Hop or something else entirely? But that's just straight up BS for the Courts to be using their Lyrics, but no other Genre, against them in ANY kind of criminal OR civil - litigation! And people like ron de santis talks about "WOKE" ideology, when this is straight up RACIST BIAS!! & truth B told, this is what magas like him, want MORE of! PS: I almost called them "maggots."
One of the sleeziest sex scenes in recent memory for me was from the main protagonists Eile and Fjal in the Witcher Blood Origin.... it was totally unnecessary. It was eeeeekie to the highest echelons of cringe!
You’d think he was actually having sex with the women lmao. His wife must be insecure as hell. If you’re not comfortable, okay, but he was married to her BEFORE the show so if he wasn’t comfortable with the script, he shouldn’t have taken the role and let someone take it who’s actually talented
I am just so thrilled that Brittney Griner is back with us! & more super happy she is returning to the W! They better put her 1st game, at the least, ON major tv! But what did she do with her beautiful HAIR! OMG, it was just so awesome! I get it, i mean long hair is hard to manage when UR even moderately active, but with a very exhaustive type sport, it can be next to crazy! Still, i hope she grows it back & i will miss it, but not as much as i've missed her GAME! Welcome back BG #42!!!!
Sex scenes? Hahahaha. Come on and about the murders his character committed? Is this actor not uncomfortable? Nothing compares with how this horrible character gets over with the bodies. Nope. Everybody talks about the sex scenes, not about the sex scenes, which I watched worse than that. No wonder, famous, and better actors, probably, didn't accept this role. I hated this show, and I stopped watching not because of the sex scenes. It was because of how the actor who is not a natural one and the story is totally unnecessary to the world. You can watch all those crime doc series, right?
Isn't it funny that there have been sex scenes in movie for over 100 years and nobody's had a problem with them until this current ultra-sensitive, ultra-uptight generation?
You cannot compare the love scenes of before and the ones today. Today they are so much explicitly blown sexual act scenes than the suggestive ones before
@@cynthianolder3557 Birth of a Nation, the first major U.S. feature film, came out in 1915. There have been sex scenes in films that offended our Puritan moral guardians ever since them. I remember my religion crazed mother refusing to let me see James Bond movies because of the "filthy" sex scenes it contained. Just because sex scenes were less explicit in the past doesn't mean that people weren't offended by them.
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As I get older, I feel like seeing a gratuitous sex scene actually cheapens a romantic story.
I completely agree! I really love the show Outlander and it really doesn’t need the crazy graphic sex scenes to convey the story. It could be toned done WAY more and still be a powerfully told story.
Agreed
I am so tired of sex scenes in every movie. It's usually akward, unecessary and uncomfortable. What happened to the power of suggestion? You go Penn!
Right?! Sometimes the spiciness of being suggestive is more attractive than seeing an intimacy scene. It shows more character and chrisma.
Then watch a different movie. No one is forcing you to watch a sex scene.
That's why I'm switching to Kdramas..
I agree to disagree YOU apply for a job as an actor to a drama. Dramas may require some intimate scenes because they reflect realty of today and life. To decide mid project you are not going to kiss the other actor is unheard of and makes no sense. ITs like a porn star refusing to do the dirty it does not make sense. THIS GUY could have refuse the roll and walked. SOMETHING IS WRONG with him get rid of him or LET HIM OUT OF HIS CONTRACT and he can do Disney. He accepted the job its its HIM TOTALLY!
@@sofiaruss8958 That's completely sensible. With all of the entertainment choices out there, I'm a little sick of people who'd rather bitch about sex in movies instead of simply watching a different movie. Some Puritans in America would prefer to condemn things they dislike rather than simply switch channels or theaters.
I hate watching movie violence. So I don't rent anything by Quentin Tarantino. And I don't whine on the internet about the killings and beatings in his films. His movies are for other people, not me.
You did the right thing. You dislike sexy movies, so you watch films with less sex that you do like. Problem solved.
Good for him and praise every director and actor/actress who refuses to include totally unnecessary and inappropriate sex scenes.
there are no SEX SCENE in DRAMAS. SEX SCENES is another industry. They have clothing on and barriers that we the audience cant see. He does not want to do DRAMAS QUIT go do Disney PURE and SIMPLE!
They used to call them love scenes.
So basically Hollywood has gone too far in the past 50 years. You can watch a love story without soft porn.
Exactly!
I was just talking with my partner about this the other day. To me, it is so unnecessary to see these super intimate sex scenes between the actors. I always think about how they are acting, it isn't real, and what do their real life partners think about it. I personally think intimate scenes in entertainment are yucky. I admire Penn for talking about it.
Korean novelas and movies can get their message across without having to have these scenes. Happy for you, Penn. ♥
lol seriously! 100%%
I prefer kdramas and movies because they are well-told and don't need the gratuitous sex scenes to relay intimacy to the audience.
I honestly don’t blame him, ‘you’ does have ALLOT of scenes like this so good for him to set boundaries
Explicit sex scenes are not necessary to tell the story depicted. Some things are best left to the imagination. No need to make actors feel obligated to perform what can be described as practically soft porn.
Sex scenes are definitely not nesscary to tell a story of love
Sex scenes are always awkward to watch. Lol I’m not even uptight . It’s his choice and he loves his wife.
If an actress did this she'd be fired. But good for him.
That's what I thought. But I hope this sets a precedent for other actors, including female, to be able to set more boundaries about that.
You are absolutely right
Look at all the Korean dramas. No sex scenes and they’re still so successful.
Its gross to watch people get intimate. It's a private matter.
When there’s too many sex scenes it cheapens the story. One of the things I like about some kdramas is that the focus is in the story and the tension. Even a small touch of hands is a big deal. Sex has been cheapened throughout the years in the industry
I hope that with his example, more actors and actresses can feel empowered to say no to intimate scenes.
This is so refreshing to hear him say that so happy someone said look lets ton it down for the sake of his privet life. . like you DONT always needs scenes like that like hello look at k-dramas they are so well done and the shows are so powerful.
Absolutely right, Penn Badgley! This goes with how your audience is feeling! We aren't watching just with our partners so it gets awkward for the rest of us too!
What??? He's an Actor who doesn't want to act. What good is he?
You are going to refuse to kiss the other actor intimately like a husband or wife because in real life you are married. NO you took the job to work ON A DRAMA not Disney a DRAMA and you do not want to do the roll you took THAT IS YOU. This is not the director problem its yours. He did not have to apply for that roll that's the problem here.
@@thomasdequincey5811 that exactly what I said they are sooo entitled.
@@thomasdequincey5811 all I read was "I'm a woman of Jesus but watch shows about degenerate, stalker, serial killers and preach morality!"
It’s beyond annoying, and a waste of time, when every single show on Netflix hast to have some sort of sexual scenes in it.
Impossible to watch with the family!
And by family I don't mean kids. It doesn't have to be kid friendly, but what if you're trying to watch a good show with good acting with your brother or your dad at home and a highly intense scene comes along🤨
TV 📺 commercials are overly sexualized now too. I am tired of the overly sexualized and violent shows.
I assume his body, because he is a healthy adult male, reacts to the stimuli. If you live in an honest relationship you don't want to get this stimuli while you are working.
Yes and he gets these scenes with attractive women
Doesn't want to show intimacy but doens't mind showing killing
That part 🫤
Our culture in a nutshell
They need to scale back the sex and violence.
Seems to me the difference is that none of the actors are actually killed in those scenes. Sometimes you have to wonder with sex scenes just how close the two are actually getting, what they're thinking, how they're feeling, etc.
I'm not so sure Penn doesn't object to the killing. I know he thinks the show is some sort of allegory, and I did hear him mention he refused to take the part at first and they had to beg him. I watched the first two episodes of _You_ just to see what the shouting was about, and that was enough for me. I don't get it, other than he's awfully cute. LOL
Still, murder mysteries and that sort of thing have always been part of drama. I try to avoid them myself. I much prefer stories about people trying to work out differences and problems in dramas rather than trying to figure out who done it or watching them do it.
A little ribaldry isn't a bad thing (Shakespeare agreed), but whenever I see what I call a fake sex scene, I always wish they'd just fade to black before we had to see all that. It really isn't necessary. And, btw, neither is hideous graphic violence.
that's exactly what i said!! @@wendyscott8425
I’m glad the woman that sets this up doesn’t see it as anything but ‘telling a story’ …with someone’s body and soul.
Right? Like who are you to decide what other people should consider cheating or not. Or what other people's boundaries should be.
That part!
What a good guy. Film sex - along with violence - is getting more and more explicit, when it doesn’t need to be. It’s a quick way to pull an audience in by appealing to our base instincts when the story should be able to drive the drama
well said! Ive always thought a film shows more artistry when they can tell a story that isn't reliant on explicit scenes.
exactly. i dont know if u've watched euphoria..its for teens & in the very first episode u see extremely violent sex between a trans teen and a 50 year old man. When i finished the season i was in this dark depressed mood, everything was just way too much sex,heroin,violence,its too too much in today's material.
Somebody needs to send a letter to HBO and Showtime.
they were able to depict emily in paris with pretty much no sex scenes and it was a great show.
I like sexy romantic stuff, but dislike raunchy explicit scenes. Some actors won',t even kiss their costars due to commitment to their vows. I respect Penn..
Hopefully this will end rape scenes. It’s completely unnecessary, gratuitous and truly revolting. I can imagine it’s traumatic for the actors as well. You can only disassociate to a certain degree.
Not to mention for anyone watching who has been raped. Sheesh.
Bravo! It's his body and his life. Fantastic to hear that he wants to respect his partner and marriage. Acting is about a lot more than overused sex scenes.
I never really understood the point of sex scenes in shows. I don't think they should be abolished but there's no need to have them as frequent as they are and as explicit as they are. So many shows can't go 10 minutes without a sex scene. There are so many examples of amazing Korean TV shows that tell amazing stories with no sex scenes. It can be done in Hollywood too.
But in romance, the first time two characters have sex is part of moving the plot forward. I think we should just go back to the old school sex scenes. A sensual kiss, a look in his/her eyes then cut to the next morning with them waking up in bed together. We don't need to know if there was foreplay and what positions were used and who finished first. 🤦😂
I hate sex scenes in any show or movie and always fast forward. In my opinion those scenes add nothing to a storyline and not only make the viewers uncomfortable but I can imagine makes most actors uncomfortable.
Sex scenes are so unnecessary.
Yes!!! If the actors are uncomfortable then I don't want to watch. Not to mention, it's mostly male directors. Some actresses have cried because of scenes. Nobody should have to do that for our "entertainment"
Bravo for Penn! 👏👏👏❤❤❤
I stopped watching American TV because they have adults playing teens and five minutes into any show the adults are having sex as teen characters and this is why teens nowadays think that all teens are supposed to have sex. What they see is what they think is normal. All American shows have sex constantly in every episode. We can't even watch an action film without the sex scene. You can't watch a comedy without the sex scene either. The only movies you can watch as a family are animated and now they have adult animated shows too because once you add the sexy clothes and sex scene, it's not just a cartoon anymore. I watch international shows. They have intimate scenes but only when necessary to the plot, adults play adults, teens don't have sex in their shows and the adult on the show that have a sex scene aren't explicite. The sex is implied. I've never heard an actor say they love having sex scenes. Give us romance and love, not sex scenes. Allow us to use our imagination.
The time when actors where just actors is over, now there is
No mystery, is very hard to appreciate a movie or a show without distractions because of information like this.
Actors are workers and they have the right to modify their working conditions. You (the show) doesn’t need extra sex scenes, what makes the show is the mystery.
@@Rinniantoinette yeah.. they do, but if they keep it to themselves viewers don't know , so when we watch the show , we can focus on the plot and the mystery is kept, is automatically distracting because now I know the actor feels uncomfortable with sex scenes , and I will be looking for tells 😝.
Good for him
You're playing a serial killer, yet you wonder about playing intimate scenes 🤔
damn, beat me to it.
That's because so many things are wrong with Hollywood productions. Intimacy is just one of them.
His wife
Awsome! You go boy! Yes, its cheating. That chemestey is why so many actors leave their spouces.
I like the way it's done here, not every project should have sex scenes, but the way it's done here, I like it.
Unfortunately with shows like euphoria, we have become so incredibly desensitized the even if there was extremely violent sex, no one would even flinch. Not a good direction we're heading to.
Good for him. If I am married, I would ask the same thing
If he doesn't want to do intimate scenes, he shouldn't have to regardless of what any "expert" might claim.
Good, I'm glad. Sometimes, they just do too much of it. Sometimes, I won't even watch a movie if there are a lot of sex scenes in it. Over the years, they keep putting more and more of it and it's just to much anymore!
a show about a serial killer - you know, where people are murdered and violence abounds - is concerned with intimacy?
He’s married he shouldent have to kiss or touch other women if he doesn’t feel comfortable or if his wife isn’t okay with it. There’s plenty of other male actors that are comfortable with doing that so if a few aren’t it isn’t that serious, just have someone else do it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one! I fast forward through the sex scenes. To me it’s just unnecessary filler. Give me a good story line with a good actor! I can use my imagination thanks.
I sometimes do that too, or I turn down the volume and awkwardly wait for it to be over, hoping it won't be long.
Give me the job. I don't have sexuality hang ups.
The reality is that most of the scenes are just uncomfortable. I love seeing good ones though but sometimes they are added just for the sake of it.
It’s crazy to think intact coordinators weren’t around back then. That’s so weird
Not Just onscreen but in books too. I skip all of them. It’s a waste. Like I don’t wanna read and see all that. It’s so not necessary.
Good for him. That's a respectable man and actor.
I’m ok with no sex scenes ✌🏾
There's ways to film sex scenes in movies without actually having sex, the way it's shot/cut it can leave the audience to assume me that they had sex but not actually seeing the sex happen so I wonder if he's ok with doing that as alternative because he's right for saying and feeling that.
There is a show I watch on Netflix and I noticed they are adding more sex scenes. It's unnecessary.
A single man will have sex scenes.
I think that the amount shown depends on the shows needs. It wouldn’t make sense in You but does in Game of Thrones and Euphoria. It depends on what you are supposed to feel
Gratuitous sex, is frankly, disgusting, and i'm no prude! I agree the separate beds is ridiculous & twould have just been better to not even show them in the bedroom, but come on, it is now, so over the top, its obscene. But this is deliberate, intended to desensitize us to sex all the time, so we become more immune to all the actual sexual abuses, especially towards women, so its easier just to view us the always (complicit) sexual pleasures for men. It really dehumanizes us after awhile.
Couple this with the constantly increasing violence, murders, & use of guns - on our screens; again, desensitize us and get us accustomed to just thinking its not really real & so what, regardless. It programs us to want more weapons of destruction and more readily to engage in using some type of violence to settle whatever - disagreements or problems - with others. They go hand in hand, almost! They won't stop either, until we stop watching it!!
As far as I'm concerned you can show intimacy in any way you want.... Show full on uncensored sex scenes or cut away or whatever.... And as a actor/actress you should be allowed to ask if it's okay too do less sex scenes, but you should also remember your job is to portray things and you yourself should try your best to decide early on weather or not your willing to do certain scenes and pick what you want to do carefully before accepting a script and role.
Sometimes a good convincing kiss does the job. No need for body parts exposure. In my opinion.
But showing gratuitous violence and killing is ok? 🙄
I agree there are many ways to express intimacy as love can be expressed with out showing sex between two people
There were some real steamy scenes in the first 3 seasons of You. Good for him.
Turkish productions are beautiful and interesting and they NEVER include intimacy. That goes to show that a GREAT story can be told without that particular element. I wonder whose idea was that to begin with.
Do you have any Turkish shows to recommend?
@@audreybringgold6217 Magnificent Century is one of my favorites. You'll see so many more if you google it.
I think that has to do more with toeing the line with the Conservative sensibilities of the over represented religious zealots in Turkish society more than the will of Turkish artists.
@@amiciprocul8501 In my view it has to do more with substance and ingenuity as opposed to the sexual overload to fill in the gaps in western films.
Definitely a bit hypocritical to oppose onscreen intimacy but be in a show that glorifies serial killer culture and violence.
Can I get a man like this pls
no
If other actors asked that ... They probably wouldn't have a job..
Interesting tha when Penn does want to perform material he is applauded but when Jenna Ortega doesn't want to she is villianized.
It’s only awkward if u make it awkward. Sex is basically a part of every day life for us adults. Just like murder death stalking etc. we just don’t see it everyday. If u don’t feel comfortable skip through and move on not that hard
yes it is apart of life but people typically don't have cameras around constantly unless that's their thing
Are you saying you should feel comfortable watching someone get murdered too? Going to the bathroom is also part of daily life but I don't need to see other people doing it, let alone be judged if I don't feel comfortable with it.
I agree to disagree YOU apply for a job as an actor to a drama. Dramas may require some intimate scenes because they reflect realty of today and life. To decide mid project you are not going to kiss the other actor is unheard of and makes no sense. ITs like a porn star refusing to do the dirty it does not make sense. THIS GUY could have refuse the roll and walked. SOMETHING IS WRONG with him get rid of him or LET HIM OUT OF HIS CONTRACT and he can do Disney. He accepted the job its its HIM TOTALLY!
He did refuse the role, and they had to beg him to do it. They must have been pretty persuasive. He probably thought it wouldn't last.
Yeah some of these scenes on these streaming bettors are ridiculous lol Like very fine line of porn
The best sex scenes are the funny ones that don't end up in any sex. Like the one between Whoopi Goldberg and Ted Danson in _Made in America._ I almost died laughing. 😁 Too bad they can't all be that hilarious-and clothed.
But playing a violent killer is OK? I rather watch a sex scene than a killing scene.
Is anyone watching the show specifically for the sex scenes?
Doubt it-if folks are that interested in sex scenes, they would be watching porn
That means he gets aroused during those scenes otherwise why he felt like he's cheating on his wife when it's nothing but acting.
Considering a large portion of actors and actresses date, have sex, and mate with each other. I wouldn't be surprised. I literally read an article not to long ago where an intimacy coordinator literally would tell male actors that if they got an erection as a reaction to their female costar's body and/or just performing intimate scenes that it was okay. She wanted to make the actors feel comfortable.
It could be out of respect for her also
@@cynthianolder3557 Exactly. God forbid a guy just wants to respect his wife and relationship!
Of course he gets aroused. He's a human being in an intimate situation.
No his privilege is showing, gtfo if you can't do it there are millions of actors willing to take his role.
The intimacy coordinator looks like jennifer gray
His wife's name is domino?
Haha no lols but funny
@Keenan Nelson-Barer it actually is I looked it up. Like the pizza
He is so fine
Emma Thompson is a queen.
Insecurities getting the best of people, it used to be a part of a job. Just business, Good actors can mentally check out and understand its fictional.
How do you explain the success of so many foreign dramas and k-dramas without those types of scenes?
I agree I think that you can't make it sound like you are pinning this decision on your wife. That's not fair to her now if it makes her uncomfortable because she knows it makes him uncomfortable than ok that makes sense. But don't use marriage as an excuse, I'm proud of him for standing up for himself and saying I don't want to do this all the time but if you can't separate the two you don't belong in this business.
@@meredithnelson5433 But then you're probably not in this business, so you really don't know.
I would watch more shows if there was little to no sex scenes. I do think it cheapens sex and love.
imagine if an actress said this . her career will end just like that
In other words his wife is jealous af and can't handle him doing his job
I disagree, I think intimate scenes are beautiful.
I won’t watch this. It’s too inappropriate. My standards are higher than than this. So chuck it.
Seems like a good guy
If he's not going to do the work the Producers should fire him and get someone in who will do the work.
I love that !!
I've never been much of a Fan of Rap Music. I think the only rap albums i ever purchased, were those from NWA & Public Enemy, & 4 all i know, those are considered Hip Hop or something else entirely? But that's just straight up BS for the Courts to be using their Lyrics, but no other Genre, against them in ANY kind of criminal OR civil - litigation! And people like ron de santis talks about "WOKE" ideology, when this is straight up RACIST BIAS!! & truth B told, this is what magas like him, want MORE of! PS: I almost called them "maggots."
Kudos to Penn Bagley 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Next step: stop glamorizing and stop romanticizing killers/murderers #OneStepAtATime
One of the sleeziest sex scenes in recent memory for me was from the main protagonists Eile and Fjal in the Witcher Blood Origin.... it was totally unnecessary. It was eeeeekie to the highest echelons of cringe!
Korean DRAMA's!!!😁
You’d think he was actually having sex with the women lmao. His wife must be insecure as hell. If you’re not comfortable, okay, but he was married to her BEFORE the show so if he wasn’t comfortable with the script, he shouldn’t have taken the role and let someone take it who’s actually talented
Who said she's insecure? What if he's just uncomfortable with it?
He should find another job
I am just so thrilled that Brittney Griner is back with us! & more super happy she is returning to the W! They better put her 1st game, at the least, ON major tv! But what did she do with her beautiful HAIR! OMG, it was just so awesome! I get it, i mean long hair is hard to manage when UR even moderately active, but with a very exhaustive type sport, it can be next to crazy! Still, i hope she grows it back & i will miss it, but not as much as i've missed her GAME! Welcome back BG #42!!!!
intimacy coordinator = perv lol
Good guy
Honestly, sex scenes are cringe.
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Sex scenes? Hahahaha. Come on and about the murders his character committed? Is this actor not uncomfortable? Nothing compares with how this horrible character gets over with the bodies. Nope. Everybody talks about the sex scenes, not about the sex scenes, which I watched worse than that. No wonder, famous, and better actors, probably, didn't accept this role. I hated this show, and I stopped watching not because of the sex scenes. It was because of how the actor who is not a natural one and the story is totally unnecessary to the world. You can watch all those crime doc series, right?
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Isn't it funny that there have been sex scenes in movie for over 100 years and nobody's had a problem with them until this current ultra-sensitive, ultra-uptight generation?
You cannot compare the love scenes of before and the ones today. Today they are so much explicitly blown sexual act scenes than the suggestive ones before
@@fatsilver5905 Tee-hee, you said "blown."
Over 100 years? You are talking about before 1923! What are you talking about?
@@cynthianolder3557 Birth of a Nation, the first major U.S. feature film, came out in 1915. There have been sex scenes in films that offended our Puritan moral guardians ever since them. I remember my religion crazed mother refusing to let me see James Bond movies because of the "filthy" sex scenes it contained.
Just because sex scenes were less explicit in the past doesn't mean that people weren't offended by them.
@@devildoll9929 There was a scene in Birth of a nation?