Jay Cutler(2009) vs Big Ramy(2020)

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  • @yorulaney8563
    @yorulaney8563 Год назад +32

    Size of wheels on ramy don't matter if they look like blobs

    • @meatimus
      @meatimus Год назад +4

      They are washed out from the front, yeah. Good from the back and great from the side. Jay’s destroys them from the front

    • @harrisonrichards4357
      @harrisonrichards4357 Год назад

      There’s now wow factor on ramy

  • @xIMxMCLOVINx
    @xIMxMCLOVINx Год назад +20

    2009 Jay is my favorite bodybuilding physique. Love Phil 2013 also.

  • @jessturner6886
    @jessturner6886 Год назад +12

    I’m not surprised at the result, but I am surprised at how good Big Ramy actually did look.

  • @jeffreylocke8808
    @jeffreylocke8808 Год назад +9

    Jay Cutler is the winner. He was as massive and cut. Jay Cutler is my pick. Hands down!

  • @ryanfz184
    @ryanfz184 Год назад +6

    Jay wins every pose easily

    • @sarikisk6957
      @sarikisk6957 Год назад

      He definitely didn't win every pose easily

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 Год назад +6

    Jay is and was elite…….ramy is only one more in the business.

  • @jhall229
    @jhall229 Год назад +16

    Take away the hamstring / glute tie ins, especially from the side, and Ramy never cracks top 3

    • @lokoloko339
      @lokoloko339 Год назад +4

      Take away Ronnie's back and he never wins 8 olympias

    • @Charles-pf7zy
      @Charles-pf7zy Год назад +1

      Take away Arnold’s left bicep

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 Год назад

      @@lokoloko339 right, because the man didn't sport some of the best biceps/arms of all time, best legs when he competed (still some of the best legs of all time especially from the back), chest, delts, conditioning?

    • @doublem1975x
      @doublem1975x Год назад

      Ramy always had very weak hamstrings.

    • @lokoloko339
      @lokoloko339 Год назад

      @@dj_m19 maybe you forgot how close the 2001, 2, 5 olympias were. Not to mention he would have lost to nasser in 1999. So yeah buddy

  • @Bavari90
    @Bavari90 Год назад +12

    Jay all the way 🙌

  • @stewartpatrick8318
    @stewartpatrick8318 Год назад +33

    Cutler wins more detail better condition and ramy is so oiled up in multiple areas he should lose by default

  • @Gnybr
    @Gnybr Год назад +18

    2020 Big Ramy was a whooping 40-50 pounds heavier than 2013 Phil while being in equal conditioning. Y'all need to remember that Ramy always dwarfed Phil on stage. It was just a question about conditioning.

    • @scerkann3966
      @scerkann3966 Год назад +3

      Equal condtioning is very arguable but it was close

    • @misfireswithabuhajaar9470
      @misfireswithabuhajaar9470 Год назад +1

      Yet some judges actually had a broken down phil beating him in prejudging

    • @woahblackbettybamalam
      @woahblackbettybamalam Год назад +11

      Nowhere near the separation, symmetry and full muscle bellies.

    • @scerkann3966
      @scerkann3966 Год назад

      @@misfireswithabuhajaar9470 who also couldn't eat for two days pre show

    • @Nagy.Patrik
      @Nagy.Patrik Год назад +7

      Its not a who is heavier competition. Dont forget that Phil always looked 20-30 lbs bigger than his actual weight. So full and round, no missing bodyparts.

  • @JerryRiceBall
    @JerryRiceBall Год назад +15

    The Egyptian Oil Spill’s legs are very unsightly.

  • @awakeningtovacuity8372
    @awakeningtovacuity8372 Год назад +3

    I knew it was gonna be good, so I liked it before I even started watching.

  • @bdegrds
    @bdegrds Год назад +1

    Contest shape vs guest posing shape

  • @johnsky1982
    @johnsky1982 Год назад +1

    How did the judges ever let ramys quads slide , they are so inflated compared to his 2013 versions

  • @jancoexp
    @jancoexp Год назад +3

    Ramy's legs are big but almost 0 separation!!! Jay's legs are ripped!! Ramy has no calves! Jay's hams are more striated. Jay wins by more than a little!!!

  • @ChrisPyle
    @ChrisPyle Год назад +1

    Look at Jays leg
    and quad development. It goes from his hip all the way down to his knee. Ramy has “bigger” quads but only half his leg has any visible muscle or detail. Zero inner thigh development showing. Same with Ramys delts. Sure they are huge and round, but they look like balloons and lack the detail and separation muscle should have. I think all the pros now days use substances in their legs, shoulders and arms the pros from 10-15 years ago didn’t. It gives the appearance of being huge, but it doesn’t look like quality muscle at all. I pick Jay for my own personal preference, but I’m still a huge Big Ramy fan. Two amazing bodybuilders worthy of the Mr. Olympia title!

  • @luisdelgado7764
    @luisdelgado7764 Год назад +5

    Big ramy fans: 🤓
    Jay Cutler fans:🗿
    Also Jay wins

  • @swall359
    @swall359 Год назад

    1998 NPC USA overall Champion Dennis James Vs. 2014 NPC USA overall champion Nicholas Trigili.

  • @leonardoesnard8305
    @leonardoesnard8305 Год назад +1

    Non symmetrical quads? Come on man. Jay wins everything except the hands clasped MM. BDB looks like a tie, but just remember, conditioning wins shows.

  • @davidward5225
    @davidward5225 Год назад +1

    Jay all the way, Ramy really has no symmetry.

  • @georgeibrahim7945
    @georgeibrahim7945 Год назад +1

    Jay is superior and more crisp

  • @playbox4366
    @playbox4366 Год назад

    How many look that good in the fls like jay without putting the arms as if they are Ski driving

  • @Its_g
    @Its_g Год назад

    Jay selling on those quads, never noticed they were the lacking point, good job Triple M👍👍

  • @adamratcliffe5518
    @adamratcliffe5518 Год назад +2

    2014 ramy vs 2001 jay. Both less conditioned and at their biggest

    • @musiclifter5424
      @musiclifter5424 Год назад

      Jay was at his lightest in 2001 biggest jay is around 05

    • @NeonAnimeDreams
      @NeonAnimeDreams Год назад

      ​@@musiclifter542405 was bigger than 09?

    • @musiclifter5424
      @musiclifter5424 Год назад

      @@NeonAnimeDreams yh bro way bigger, he’s said in podcasts before that the reason he looked way better in 09 was cus he stopped chasing size and got in true condition

  • @robertdevito5001
    @robertdevito5001 Год назад +5

    I was thinking Ramy going into this because they’re similar but Ramy is bigger, but after watching I’m thinking Jay. If Ramy had a better back he’d win for sure though, if his back was as good in 2020 as it was towards the start of his career, and he was conditioned like in 2020, forget about it.

  • @imnotalone76
    @imnotalone76 Год назад

    Big Ramy need to improve on triceps, forearm and calves and finally come with conditions in pre and final.

  • @kaleandoscope
    @kaleandoscope Год назад +2

    I look at Jay's legs alone and I give it to him

  • @sailorsenshi6
    @sailorsenshi6 Год назад

    This is evident of the fact that the era 2019-2021 was lacking the quality of the lineups of previous years. The best man won of course, but the best on that given day couldn't match to the top 3 of the years before. Jay is polished, simply too much for Ramy who simply packs muscle but there's not the level of conditioning, sharpness, detail of a polished top level pro.
    This year the top 3 could stand to those lineups

  • @ernesterz
    @ernesterz Год назад

    Bring back the last man standing at the end of the video. We are here for your opinion, I loved when you gave a final winner even if it was controversial and hard to decide. Now it feels like I have watched the whole video for nothing. You are like you could this one to him, but the judges would probably pick him, it could go either way... I just preferred when the videos ended clearly with the picture of the champion by your judgement.

  • @NicksFitnessYT
    @NicksFitnessYT Год назад

    Jay is more conditioned, has thinner skin, and much more complete overall- calves and forearms matter!

  • @eugeniozilleruelo
    @eugeniozilleruelo Год назад

    I have Jay winning easily the FDB and AAT, and Ramy winning easily the FLS, SC and RLS, the other poses are truly close. I would personally give Ramy the BDB because of the symmetry in his lats, the glutes and overall size, however Jay's striations in the upper back, shoulders and arms, plus the superior quads and hams are a real advantage. The ST is again close, because Jay is winning in the upper body and triceps, but Ramy superior lower body keeps it close, but I would still give it to Jay. The MM again it's close, because in the hands on hip Ramy looks awesome and Jay too, and actually Ramy's quads look more separated, but when he executes the other variation he looks weird, but Jay in the crap doesn"t look that great, because his chest looks soft, and his arms too small for his chest, so it's really close

    • @eugeniozilleruelo
      @eugeniozilleruelo Год назад +1

      I apologyse for my bad english skills, I'm Mexican, so I'm not the best

  • @M.S.Fitness
    @M.S.Fitness Год назад +1

    SEO Ramy

  • @felpsonfire6691
    @felpsonfire6691 Год назад

    Big ramy needs more love in the chanel!! Pls do Ramy 2020 vs hadi 2022

    • @CypressItalian
      @CypressItalian Год назад

      Ramy sucks.

    • @felpsonfire6691
      @felpsonfire6691 Год назад

      @@CypressItalian 2021 and especially 2022 where not good years for him, but that 2020 physique was great. He looked kinda week in a few shots, but in his bets shots he murdered everyone else. That side chest and some of the back shots… it’s something special.

  • @pontypresley3711
    @pontypresley3711 Год назад

    Asymmetrical

  • @sargento_00
    @sargento_00 Год назад

    jay wins in the hair department to!!

  • @Olanray1981
    @Olanray1981 Год назад

    Before even watching....Cutler dominates Ramy

  • @heavymetalhero08
    @heavymetalhero08 Год назад

    Jay's balance is better all day.... Ramy's thighs are goofy looking in that they make his arms and calves look too small because they are so big

  • @NeonAnimeDreams
    @NeonAnimeDreams Год назад +1

    Rammys forearms are pathetic and he uses oil in his shoulders and quads, how on earth you can say he beats jay is beyond me.
    Bad call Marx

  • @jessfowler4207
    @jessfowler4207 Год назад

    I think Jay Cutler wins

  • @polskarmata3490
    @polskarmata3490 Год назад +2

    JAY WIN !!!!

  • @hishama.alghany33
    @hishama.alghany33 Год назад

    Big different in photos quality to be honest .. jay pics even has been filtered

  • @cncaliguy09
    @cncaliguy09 Год назад

    Ramy is packed mass that looks poorly sloped on, with shrived burnt out flat conditioning. Jay looks way more aesthetic and he's is one of the least aesthetic Mr. O. With time people will look at Ramy like Chris Dickerson

  • @Nirsterkur
    @Nirsterkur Год назад

    Jay wins.

  • @JohnPeter1940
    @JohnPeter1940 Год назад +1

    Day 386 of saying hi to Marx!

  • @JustSage-b2y
    @JustSage-b2y Год назад

    Ramy won fair and square

  • @adammoke8949
    @adammoke8949 Год назад

    Jay wins

  • @woahblackbettybamalam
    @woahblackbettybamalam Год назад +5

    Jay wins imo. But that right quad really throws off his physique

  • @senacasagrande
    @senacasagrande Год назад +1

    Big ramy winning almost every shot. it's incredible how people underestimate him

  • @michaelboskovich6948
    @michaelboskovich6948 Год назад

    I don’t like those holes in Ramys legs don’t inject your quads Jay Wins This One

  • @araujodacruz9187
    @araujodacruz9187 Год назад

    Jay no diff

  • @johnnewell8508
    @johnnewell8508 Год назад +2

    I give it Ramy the win. The scale might be a little off in Jays favor in a few shots. I think the size difference would be more apparent in person

  • @CypressItalian
    @CypressItalian Год назад

    Ramy was only good in 2013 and briefly in 2017. Otherwise he sucks.

  • @dionshelby5494
    @dionshelby5494 Год назад +2

    Calling it right before, ramy wins this. Don't @ me

  • @sunnyburnet4261
    @sunnyburnet4261 Год назад +1

    Jay...
    Is Light years better than Ramy...
    Ramy... Is the worst
    MR. OLYMPIA OF ALL TIME...!!!

  • @DanielMartinez-kh3sy
    @DanielMartinez-kh3sy Год назад +1

    Only Chris Dickerson is worse than Ramy. Ramy is a horrible bodybuilder.

  • @adamstrachn
    @adamstrachn Год назад +12

    I REALLY, REALLY miss those dark backgrounds on the Olympia stage. I wish they would do that during their routines and just keep the EDM festival graphics for everything else.

  • @Shawn-1971
    @Shawn-1971 Год назад +9

    Its close but Cutler has better definition especially from the rear.

  • @Lord.Crawford
    @Lord.Crawford Год назад +6

    Jay wins this. You been drinking sir.

  • @philliplabuschagne5508
    @philliplabuschagne5508 Год назад +5

    Jay unsymmetrical compared to Ramy who is thee most disproportionate Olympia winner of all time. Please no way he ever beats Jay. Ramy also has one leg bigger than the other and the holes in the quads and no calves compared to upper legs. Ramy is thee worst physique to win mr Olympia beating even Chris Dickerson

  • @alhassanait1749
    @alhassanait1749 Год назад +11

    Very close here but imo Jay is more balanced

  • @kevinodinson
    @kevinodinson Год назад +3

    Giving my opinion before the analysis but i personally dont see big Ramy coming close to jay cutler. Dont get me wrong I love big Ramy. I do. Im a huge big ramy fan but that being said. 09 Jay was just on a completely different level

  • @mikebird5148
    @mikebird5148 Год назад +6

    Jay all day, I was at the 09 show, ur boy looked insane!

  • @NeonAnimeDreams
    @NeonAnimeDreams Год назад +2

    Rammy looks all washed out compared to cuttler, and those tumors in his quads aren't doing him any favors.
    Cuttler wins

  • @renaissanceinblack
    @renaissanceinblack Год назад +13

    Jay's muscles seem to be far more functional (real). Ramy doesn't even appear to be flexing. He definitely has a terrific flow for a "mass monster", though. Is he ever vascular? I think Jay wins this one.

  • @nickbritten8132
    @nickbritten8132 Год назад +1

    Rarely disagree with Marx but Jay is the clear winner in my eyes. I can’t unsee the quad to calf imbalance on Ramy

  • @meatimus
    @meatimus Год назад +1

    I don’t see why the leg asymmetry should cost Jay the win. We got Nick walker out here with the “best arms” that are just as asymmetrical if not more so

  • @Wikingking
    @Wikingking Год назад +8

    I wouldn't mind if every Mr. Olympia had the 2009 lighting and background. Made them guys look like gods, no wonder many bodybuilders had their "best versions" in 2009. Maybe it was also due to the perfect lighting.
    This one is close...
    FDB: Jay is stacked but Ramy had better x-frame, better lat sweep.
    FLS: quite similar, but Ramy is too much imo.
    SC: Ramy wins lower, upper is close
    ST: also very close, Ramrod is too much in the quad detail but Jay's upper body is picture perfect while Ramy is a bit sloppy.
    RLS: the tides have turned, I like Jay more from the waist below, Ramy has a wider back, they both lack 3D detail.
    BDB: Jay's better detail and conditioning pushes him over the line imo, they are similar with Ramy again having better proportions but Jay has deeper cuts and more things going on for him.
    AT: very close, the quad stomp would be too much to handle, but Ramy has his frame and symmetrical abs working for him.
    MM: hard to tell, Ramy is huge af, Jay is also packed with muscle
    They both had the "winning" presence on-stage in these years so it's even hard to make a decision based on how dominant would either look like compared to the other. Jay wins in the conditioning dept., Ramy is more massive, they have similar assets (width, good quads). I think it is fair to give this to Ramy, got Jay's number in more cases than not... :S

  • @tekkaboy9990
    @tekkaboy9990 Год назад +1

    Jay easy easy

  • @awakenedanarchism4202
    @awakenedanarchism4202 Год назад +1

    Jay wins all day

  • @JohnPeter1940
    @JohnPeter1940 Год назад +2

    ramrod definition for those who dont know
    noun
    1.
    a rod for ramming down the charge of a muzzle-loading firearm.
    2.
    NORTH AMERICAN
    a foreman or manager, especially one who is a strict disciplinarian.
    "he was ramrod for the construction of the Apollo command module"
    verb
    NORTH AMERICAN
    force a proposed measure to be accepted or completed quickly.
    "they ramrodded through legislation voiding the court injunctions"

  • @JezuzIsLord
    @JezuzIsLord Год назад +1

    Jay looked amazing. If only he had a smaller waist. He'd be the GOAT.

  • @DanielMartinez-kh3sy
    @DanielMartinez-kh3sy Год назад +3

    Ramy better than Jay...lol, good one. No fucking way. Don't worry about a slight imbalance between Jay's quads. Focus instead on ramys quad vs everything else imbalance.

    • @nickbritten8132
      @nickbritten8132 Год назад +1

      Those Ramy quads completely overpower those comparatively little calves. Total imbalance there.

  • @awakeningtovacuity8372
    @awakeningtovacuity8372 Год назад +1

    Jay wins, but no shade to Big Ramy. They're both awesome.

  • @HEAVYCHEVY409
    @HEAVYCHEVY409 Год назад

    *Not a fan of Jay 2009, he looked like azz, he was no different then 2008 melt marshmallows look but just about 30lbs lighter. Now when you say Jay from 2001, he was God tier body builder level. That was his best form!*

  • @thecheatery7713
    @thecheatery7713 Год назад +8

    Do the 2013 Olympia where Jay placed 6th and Rami 8tth (Jay's last O and Rami's O debut)

    • @Majd_qaryouti
      @Majd_qaryouti Год назад +1

      He did that one before and he added roelly winklaar to that video

  • @arvidpetersson2252
    @arvidpetersson2252 Год назад +1

    Jay was like 260-70 2009 (he came in more conditioned that year why he was smaller)Ramy is a certified 300 pounder, why is Jay sized larger?

    • @leonardoesnard8305
      @leonardoesnard8305 Год назад

      Actually Jay said that he was 255 here. But that conditioning smokes Rammy......quad stomp says it all.

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr Год назад +1

      These are leaner versions of them. Jay was 250-255 and Ramy 285-290.

  • @MIK23458
    @MIK23458 Год назад +3

    It may be a fairer match if Jay’s photos weren’t filtered to high heaven. Not saying Ramy would win but the difference in photo quality is so great as to render this comparison meaningless.

    • @reallifetoji
      @reallifetoji Год назад +6

      From what I understand, those are raw shots. The lighting was a lot better at the Olympia before they started doing dumb shit like putting lit up screens behind competitors. You should look at the ACTUAL doctored photos of Jay and you’ll see

  • @HEAVYCHEVY409
    @HEAVYCHEVY409 Год назад

    Ramy won!

  • @dyl7528
    @dyl7528 Год назад +1

    marx the best

  • @jf8643
    @jf8643 Год назад

    Ramy reminds me of BBL women get nowadays all oil and unnatural looking proportions

  • @donsanders5611
    @donsanders5611 Год назад +2

    Jay Of course.

  • @BriantheWolverine
    @BriantheWolverine Год назад

    I feel Jays pain with the unsymmetrical lats

  • @icecoldlemonade3939
    @icecoldlemonade3939 Год назад

    Looking forward to seeing 2013 Phil again

  • @myflesh10
    @myflesh10 Год назад +4

    Jay all the way. With due respect Ramys thighs are way to big and I'm not a fan of his aesthetics no matter how big he is. This is one of Jays best years and his symmetry doesn't get to me, same as Ronnie and Dorian, it's Jays overall structure that I love

  • @4dbullshitpatroll6
    @4dbullshitpatroll6 Год назад

    Shaun Clarida could beat both of these guys and Ronnie Colman right? That's what evdryone is saying. Who cares about size. Size has nothing to do with bodybuilding right?