The Christmas Tree comes from the Germanic 'Paradise Tree', which was the tree of life from a tradition of having a play depicting the Fall with Adam and Eve.
@@OliverMurrayYT religion for breakfast did a good RUclips video on it last year, he's a bit of a secular materialist but he's pretty honest and very fair. It dovetails rather nicely with a video Jonathan Pageau did with Richard Rollin last Christmas
My friend is Austrian and she said Krampus was literally terrifying as a kid. I'd never even heard of it until a few years ago. Krampus would come and attack school kids on their way home from school. From what she described it had no redeeming features.
I am highly skeptical of the pagan origins of Krampus. The earliest references are people in the 19th century saying they thought it had pagan origins. People in the 19th century thought everything had pagan origins, but most supposed ancient traditions which have been examined in any detail have turned out to be products of late medieval Christian society: Christmas trees, Yule logs, guising, etc etc. Some are even more recent, Friday 13th superstitions begin in the mid 20th century. The Krampus phenomenon is interesting, but I would err towards an early modern, probably post reformation origin
Very good convo. May I suggest that this dialogue should have a touch more of 'ugency' to it without losing it's tone or context. It's not a 'you' thing, it's definitely a 'me' thing. My attention span and what not. It feels everything here could have been said within 45-50 minutes to keep engagement. I'm sorry for giving my unwarranted advice. I really do hope that this channel goes places as the content and nuances are stellar and are usually missed by other Christian content creators on this platform.
I do think that people exploring so called spiritualities is long term a good thing. They are looking for “more”. Great discussion guys.
Brilliant chat gents. Thank you for all the elucidation 🙏
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Great work guys, i really enjoyed this
The Christmas Tree comes from the Germanic 'Paradise Tree', which was the tree of life from a tradition of having a play depicting the Fall with Adam and Eve.
@@mamaliamalak7825 I didn’t know that. Thanks.
@@OliverMurrayYT religion for breakfast did a good RUclips video on it last year, he's a bit of a secular materialist but he's pretty honest and very fair.
It dovetails rather nicely with a video Jonathan Pageau did with Richard Rollin last Christmas
My friend is Austrian and she said Krampus was literally terrifying as a kid. I'd never even heard of it until a few years ago. Krampus would come and attack school kids on their way home from school. From what she described it had no redeeming features.
I am highly skeptical of the pagan origins of Krampus. The earliest references are people in the 19th century saying they thought it had pagan origins.
People in the 19th century thought everything had pagan origins, but most supposed ancient traditions which have been examined in any detail have turned out to be products of late medieval Christian society: Christmas trees, Yule logs, guising, etc etc.
Some are even more recent, Friday 13th superstitions begin in the mid 20th century.
The Krampus phenomenon is interesting, but I would err towards an early modern, probably post reformation origin
@@sigurdholbarki8268 Interesting. Thanks for this.
@@OliverMurrayYTno worries, looking forward to the meet up tonight
Very good convo. May I suggest that this dialogue should have a touch more of 'ugency' to it without losing it's tone or context.
It's not a 'you' thing, it's definitely a 'me' thing. My attention span and what not. It feels everything here could have been said within 45-50 minutes to keep engagement. I'm sorry for giving my unwarranted advice.
I really do hope that this channel goes places as the content and nuances are stellar and are usually missed by other Christian content creators on this platform.
The conversation was organic, so I’m happy with it being in its current format