With the ties; best casting combination at the moment, you guys did an amazing job, please keep joining each other you are perfectly matched as a casting team!
I like demu's bookcase and analysis. Kats is always love. Speaking of love the shirt-bow tie combination is the perfect wedding look for such a great couple. Best Wishes❤
Both players were superb in this tournament. Really love their play. Clem was a beast when it comes to mines. And Reynor, that lurker drop was just insane!. Super, super love it. 💕🙌
Have to say those were amazing games from Clem. He's really stepped it up recently. I remember when he was just starting and he was fine but nothing to really talk about. But these last few tournaments he's been slaughtering. Last game I think his main problem was those hellbats. Unless you're pushing to the main and just want to end the game, I find pure hellbats are pretty useless. Drones can run away and queens can split and slowly pick them off. If you're at the natural pushing to the main or something with a BC or like that liberator, that would make more sense since there's less room to run and you can probably trap the queens and take em out. After that he was behind and the probably playing sloppier having runbys actually snipe off lots of units... Seriously looks like Clem will get there though. Seeing someone finally micro widow mines that much is nice to see (painful too since I"m a zerg player). Widows can be so OP but zergs split well enough at this point that it often doesn't matter. But if you micro the widow mines targetting then splitting is useless unless you split your entire army which would require another level of micro which I"m not sure is possible.. at least not at this point. Counter would have to be multiple waves which would have to have the zerg have so much units. And also do more surrounds which I feel players dont do enough. Think the answer is just what raynor did and just not use ling bane muta anymore...
at 1:39:45... did Reynor timed the counter attack when Clem destroyed the hatchery? Btw loved to have the players' camera so we can see this Godlike players emotional expression too.
I like how shoutcasters stutter to provide emphasis, when all it really sounds like is that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when they're being paid to talk, lol.
I think Clem's main issue is not being able to adapt his build. Lurkers are very good against bio and widows aren't really good against lurkers. If he got more adaptable he'd maybe be better than reynor
lemme guess zerg won...imo zerg is perfect as it is but it shows the flaws of other races, fixing turrets, mothership, hellions and vikings could balance it out a bit better. Maybe creep could retract faster when destroyed...
I wish I was young enough to apm like these guys. There are so many obvious strategies that I would use and it would become main stream. Example, in this game I would have used scvs and spotter scouts during mid and late game. I would never become blindsided by a run by of lings. It’s way more cost effective having a few spotter scvs killed then losing a bunch. Knowing there is a run by coming will lead to these actions. You can either move harvesting scvs to safety, move units to defend or have the attempted run by pulled back because they lost the element of surprise which it depends on. And you never have to worry about them moving with army commands.
Findus Peterson come on man, don’t be stupid. What happens when a run by is successful? How many scvs die? Would you sacrifice 50 minerals to have an advanced warning that a run by is coming? How many matches have you watched where banglings or any attacking group of units are just beyond the range to be spotted? How much resources are lost or could have been saved if they were spotted? So my answer is yes, I would give up a few scvs for that because they would be lost based on what I wanted instead of losing a bunch I didn’t want too. Lose an scv instead of replacing 10 because I was surprised. How can this not make any sense?
@@moety2 your advanced warning doesnt mean shit ^^ they get picked off by random scouting units, you need multiple to cover every path and even then you dont have vision of air. just build a sensor tower ..
Findus Peterson I don’t give a shit what you claim. Have you ever done it? I do it a bunch of times and it works that’s why I’m saying it. You don’t run into random scouting units mid to late game which is when I said to do it, you run into groups of attacking units wanting to catch you off guard . Also it’s not just for Terran and depends how the game is progressing. And I do use sensor towers. Opponents typically avoids going into the range of a sensor, well the smart ones. They usually run right into the scv scout also giving away their unit composition if you check the area fast enough before the fog of war comes back.
@@rakashaagain Clem won 2 games in which Reynor skipped lurkers. He didn't find the key to fight lurkers but anyway if there's a nerf it'll probably be Vipers like already stated. Vipers and abduct as it is are breaking both ZvT and ZvP. This added to the fact that Zergs now understand that they can go further than 70 drones are making things really tense and that's why we're seeing Zerg getting the nerfs they deserve, and that they'll probably get more.
Actually Clem beat Reynor in the winners bracket. When Clem is successful in putting constant pressure on Reynor, he isn't able to get a Viper and Lurker count that is unbeatable. Terran is best when putting on constant pressure.
Lurkers and vipers might be really strong at high level play, they are harder to use for lower and mid tier players. Widow mines are much easier for lower tier. How do u balance it for all level of players?
@@rangoonlenlai7481 widow mines broken? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, DUDE THE FUKING MINES DO FRIENDLY FIRE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
You know I dont agree with the comment but it's nice to see someone making an argument for a nerf that doesn't have literally no reasoning or substance.
With the ties; best casting combination at the moment, you guys did an amazing job, please keep joining each other you are perfectly matched as a casting team!
Two amazing young players. Enjoy Reynor, love your winning reaction.
I like demu's bookcase and analysis. Kats is always love. Speaking of love the shirt-bow tie combination is the perfect wedding look for such a great couple.
Best Wishes❤
Those two casters are a couple?
What he said ^
No it was a joke.
Zerg is imba, that’s what you’re trying to say right?
I really like Clems climb up through the ranks, it's a refreshing change :)
Both players were superb in this tournament. Really love their play. Clem was a beast when it comes to mines. And Reynor, that lurker drop was just insane!. Super, super love it. 💕🙌
"Yeah, Terran is quite evil" 😂😂😂 I love how he let that one out
1:10:12 How long has it been since a non Zerg won anything? Will this be a passing of the torch?
No
just when i thought clem is gonna win, i see 40 min left in the video
How could you even have thought of that? Zerg a-move OP, which is what won Reynor that last couple fights in the last game.
@@karlizen4990 You'd have to just not know how to play starcraft if you thought that was just a moving.
So good players, both of them, hope they will keep going this way, so fun and beautiful match.
Have to say those were amazing games from Clem. He's really stepped it up recently. I remember when he was just starting and he was fine but nothing to really talk about. But these last few tournaments he's been slaughtering.
Last game I think his main problem was those hellbats. Unless you're pushing to the main and just want to end the game, I find pure hellbats are pretty useless. Drones can run away and queens can split and slowly pick them off. If you're at the natural pushing to the main or something with a BC or like that liberator, that would make more sense since there's less room to run and you can probably trap the queens and take em out.
After that he was behind and the probably playing sloppier having runbys actually snipe off lots of units...
Seriously looks like Clem will get there though. Seeing someone finally micro widow mines that much is nice to see (painful too since I"m a zerg player). Widows can be so OP but zergs split well enough at this point that it often doesn't matter. But if you micro the widow mines targetting then splitting is useless unless you split your entire army which would require another level of micro which I"m not sure is possible.. at least not at this point. Counter would have to be multiple waves which would have to have the zerg have so much units. And also do more surrounds which I feel players dont do enough. Think the answer is just what raynor did and just not use ling bane muta anymore...
Reynor got dat grit, no retreat, no surrender!
The gg wp ! at the end made me feel sad for Clem :(
Burrowed banes need to be utilized more to help deter the constant marine pressure
These two... no words exist
Why did Clem start with 1 win? Upper vs. lower bracket or so?
Yep
yes
because zerg is broken
because of disbalance
@@flubjig903 And yet 1 win up was not enough... :)
Reynor its so fun to watch...
That reaper mine at 7 minutes: what a move
What agame!!!! Could have gone either way. Both unreal players.
Brutalll😱😱
14:35 commentators yin yang
One of the Best Terran fights I ever saw! Such an amazing final. Enjoyed how Clem fought! (Edit: vs. the imbalanced Zerg race & a bit vs. Reynor)
Man Raynor is popping off
at 1:39:45... did Reynor timed the counter attack when Clem destroyed the hatchery?
Btw loved to have the players' camera so we can see this Godlike players emotional expression too.
I like how shoutcasters stutter to provide emphasis, when all it really sounds like is that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when they're being paid to talk, lol.
If Reynor does Lurkers he wins, against Clem, 100% of the time, so far, these couple of days
Because he can’t abuse the widowmine vs ling and bane cheese
If he does lurkers vs maru he wins XD
I think Clem's main issue is not being able to adapt his build. Lurkers are very good against bio and widows aren't really good against lurkers. If he got more adaptable he'd maybe be better than reynor
Reynor, well done!
clem will be the next champion. he's just playing humbly.
If he switches to zerg, otherwise, forget it
Tom Leszczynski Your bronze is showing
So much for unbiased casting.
Want to find the full track
Zerg still OP after all these years lol. Devs maintains their zerg boner perpetually it seems
Why is this cast so zoomed in? It's actually bothering me so much. I wanna
Where is game 1?
Clem starts with a one game advantage because he came from the winners bracket
@@enola1281 thank you sir
"Italian Stallion" ... that is what they called Sylvester Stalone, when he made a porn movie back in the day :D
@ Isn't he american ?
@@christofferocahaaska9999 no sir
Go Go Go .. Clem
God...
any1 know whats the music on 3:20 ?????
Terran 3
GG
lemme guess zerg won...imo zerg is perfect as it is but it shows the flaws of other races, fixing turrets, mothership, hellions and vikings could balance it out a bit better. Maybe creep could retract faster when destroyed...
zergcraf 2
There is no way terran is gonna win. When was the last big tournament the winner was not a zerg? I remember GSL S1, at the beginning of the year...
I wish I was young enough to apm like these guys. There are so many obvious strategies that I would use and it would become main stream. Example, in this game I would have used scvs and spotter scouts during mid and late game. I would never become blindsided by a run by of lings. It’s way more cost effective having a few spotter scvs killed then losing a bunch. Knowing there is a run by coming will lead to these actions. You can either move harvesting scvs to safety, move units to defend or have the attempted run by pulled back because they lost the element of surprise which it depends on. And you never have to worry about them moving with army commands.
so you'd give scouting lings free scv's and mules? While you're at it, you should also put a sensor tower in the middle of the map
Findus Peterson come on man, don’t be stupid. What happens when a run by is successful? How many scvs die? Would you sacrifice 50 minerals to have an advanced warning that a run by is coming? How many matches have you watched where banglings or any attacking group of units are just beyond the range to be spotted? How much resources are lost or could have been saved if they were spotted? So my answer is yes, I would give up a few scvs for that because they would be lost based on what I wanted instead of losing a bunch I didn’t want too. Lose an scv instead of replacing 10 because I was surprised. How can this not make any sense?
@@moety2 your advanced warning doesnt mean shit ^^ they get picked off by random scouting units, you need multiple to cover every path and even then you dont have vision of air. just build a sensor tower ..
Findus Peterson I don’t give a shit what you claim. Have you ever done it? I do it a bunch of times and it works that’s why I’m saying it. You don’t run into random scouting units mid to late game which is when I said to do it, you run into groups of attacking units wanting to catch you off guard . Also it’s not just for Terran and depends how the game is progressing. And I do use sensor towers. Opponents typically avoids going into the range of a sensor, well the smart ones. They usually run right into the scv scout also giving away their unit composition if you check the area fast enough before the fog of war comes back.
@@moety2 keep on scv scouting, maybe one day i'll watch you on the screen ;) Or some poor soul executing whatever this is
Clem is way too cute :3
Bro... it’s insane that terran can have 40% of zerg eco and still win. It’s so fucking dumb
20$ they nerf lurker borrow speed soon. nerfed everything else so why not!
nah, it would be the Viper
@Aaron I don't see why, this is a 3-4 game. Both race are fine imo, reynor played better.
JM Lav clearly it’s not a 3-4, Clem had the winner bracket which let him to start with 1-0
@@rakashaagain Clem won 2 games in which Reynor skipped lurkers. He didn't find the key to fight lurkers but anyway if there's a nerf it'll probably be Vipers like already stated. Vipers and abduct as it is are breaking both ZvT and ZvP. This added to the fact that Zergs now understand that they can go further than 70 drones are making things really tense and that's why we're seeing Zerg getting the nerfs they deserve, and that they'll probably get more.
Actually Clem beat Reynor in the winners bracket. When Clem is successful in putting constant pressure on Reynor, he isn't able to get a Viper and Lurker count that is unbeatable. Terran is best when putting on constant pressure.
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increase gas cost or build time for banes jeez. i'm so sick of seeing every zerg game dominated by banes banes banes
Oh yes. Nerf my banes too. Not like broodlords and ultras are complete fucking shit. Take away my tier 1 also.
Lol at the caster with so much makeup
"not get suprised to anything" - not English lol
Great now we have to listen how imba zerg is. if they cry enough blizzard will fucking nerf zerg again so much bs
Dude, lurkers are broken. Dont fight me pls, you know as well im right.
And widowmines arent? Lol cmon
Go and do your stupid complains at blizzard forums please. We can quarantine all the toxicity and whine there of we collaborate.
Lurkers and vipers might be really strong at high level play, they are harder to use for lower and mid tier players. Widow mines are much easier for lower tier. How do u balance it for all level of players?
@@rangoonlenlai7481 widow mines broken? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, DUDE THE FUKING MINES DO FRIENDLY FIRE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Alex Beltran You seem to be forgetting that lurkers are anti bio and clem only goes bio
i really think creep should only detect ground units, not air units. is just too much advantage.
It takes a lot of apm/macro to spread creep well, especially if there is constant back and forth between the players.
You know I dont agree with the comment but it's nice to see someone making an argument for a nerf that doesn't have literally no reasoning or substance.
Z imba
1:40:29 Reynor acting little too excited
Just the right amount considering he just won the grand final
He's 18 and just won $13k. I would be pretty excited too.
Reynor always acts super excited.
Catz is Good caster, but gets way too excited.
When did that become a bad thing tho
@@CAT3616G Because he starts to high pitched screaming for minutes at a time, gets annoying
Er Diwuan haha I understand
He's lit!!!
i was realy hopeing to see a terran wins the final match.. saddly again its ZERG! Boring!
when terran wins he wins and terran players not crying about balance, when zerg beats him the cry starts :😂😂😂😂😂😂
God reynor blows Clem why you throwing
I'm gonna get ragged on for this but dang that caster is a diversity hire Blizz, that ideology is gonna continue to sink you.