DCS F/A-18C Hornet Countermeasures Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Covering how to use Flares, Chaff, CMS Programs RWR Radar warning receiver and the ECM Electronic countermeasures systems.
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Update 15/06/18
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Update 10/06/18
It should be noted that further information, or debate on the matter has come forth since recording this. It appears that the manual, may be correct and the game in-correct! still lacking concrete information at this time, I'l keep you guys posted.
Original update on the matter:
Update video relating to Issues with the official manual:
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I just discovered your channel and boy is it good! Thanks for all these tutorials mate, they really help! I-m going to binge them all. subscribed and liked
Ladies and Gentlemen! He is on a roll. Nothing can stop the RedKite. Thanks for demystifying yet another system.This is really important information to help one stay alive. And as always, but there is MORE. The link provides RWR legend. Well Done SIR.
By far the best tutorial about countermeasures for F/A-18C on youtube! Thanks dude.
Seriously man. This video was AWESOME. SO straight forward, to the point and easy to understand. Subbed!
Playing around with this and couldn't figure it out.
Now I'm all like "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Glad it's cleared things up for you.
Just a note. Master Arm does not safe countermeasures. They can be ejected on the ground. Ive seen it happen. I worked on these systems in my younger days. :) Nice video.
Actually, on the DCS simulation it does, I'm surprised it's possible to eject countermeasures on the ground!
Thanks for doing these outstanding and clear videos! (+Updates)
I LOVE YOU REDKITE!
Thanks for this. Very well put together.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Awesome, now I won't have to guess when I'm being locked on to
Awesome guide!
But is it just me or are the CMs a bit weak on the numbers? Kinda like the M2KC
Countermeasure bays are pretty big and induce drag. Being small, highly manoeuvrable aircraft it's generally accepted that they use their other strengths to avoid missiles.
Aircraft like the Harrier and Hog are expected to maintain close air support for long periods and have a large supply of countermeasures to allow for this. The mission profile of a hornet is much more about striking their targets often from high altitude and getting out of there quickly.
It's certainly less countermeasures than i'd like but, it'l do the job, you can often defeat threats without the use of cms, by other means such as high altitude, airspeed or g-forces.
good info
there is no way to change program parameters on the ground? I cant get ALE-47 to activate on the ground where I can even get to those programs
Got to be in the air to program it. In reality its configured on the data cartridge prior to getting in the jet. There is another method, that i shall cover in a video sometime soon when i get the time.
my EW is off gg
You've set the bar incredibly high for DCS tutorials - great work as always
thank god finally a dcs F18 Countermeasures Tutorial FINALLY
I know right! For the life of me I could not figure it out lol.
I kinda wish they qould put another one out as soon as it goes full release for counter measures and radar as well. All of these tutorials have non-functioning buttons that would be good to learn about.
Can always count on RedKite to provide the single most needed tutorial at any given time. Was looking all over for this help! I had everything right for Bypass setting except Master Arm! Was driving me insane! As always, thanks RedKite for yet another no-nonsense resource.
Thanks SkunkWorks, i've seen a lot of people make that same mistake!
Awesome video, I just learned so much about a system I was using 1/3 of it's potential prior to this. Keep up the videos, all the facts, no fill and great speed and explanation. Would love to see more videos covering specific systems just like this.
I'm happy to hear suggestions for future tutorials though naturally between early access and personal time there's only so much i can show you guys.
I went to bed hoping... NO praying you'd make one of these. Sir you are a mind reader!
Thanks so much for this video, it's very very helpful!
I was looking for this! Thx
It should be noted that further information, or debate on the matter has come forth since recording this. It appears that the manual, may be correct and the game in-correct! still lacking concrete information at this time, I'l keep you guys posted.
The original update video i produced is available here.
So there is an issue with the Official Manual for the DCS F/A-18C hornet at present. I've addressed this in an update video about the Countermeasures system. ruclips.net/video/yVvBJfw2ru0/видео.html
Thank you for this helpful tutorial!
this is an excellent guide! Please do more "how to" videos!
I'm sure there will be more in the future :)
A picture (or video ) is worth a thousand words. Thanks RedKite, another very helpful video.
Cheers Phantom
@RedKite you are actually wrong about the "closest to you on the RWR=Biggest threat" ,the RWR works the other way around compared to like the F15,the outer threats are the ones that the biggest threat as can be seen when locked,the inner ones are no threats.Check this link and please re-do that part on the video,thx. forums.vrsimulations.com/support/index.php/Tactical_Electronic_Warfare_(EW)_Systems#ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver_.28RWR.29 Other than that,good vid
Thanks! that's interesting, The DCS Hornet manual states what i'd said, but it appears on further inspection you're right the threats do move to the outside although the rwr doesn't fully represent these images seemingly lacking the ability to put threats in the lethal band. It's certainly a work in progress sensor. I'l put together a little update video on the matter. I assume this is from the VRS Super bug F/a-18 E/F for fsx/p3d?
Kinda late to the party but yes,that was from Super bug. I should´ve put my twitch link into my first comment for the remake of the RWR video,damn :D
Thank you Sir! Excellent.. keep em coming, now you are my official single source for F18 tutorials ")
Another well produced informative video. Thanks!
Very nice video. and I have added subtitle in Korean. So Korean can get take this video more easily. Thank you again
Thank you!
Thanks, really succinct. Well done.
Thanks again RedKite, simple video but just the ticket. Might not get shot down as much.... maybe.
are there any differences between the f-18 and su-33 countermeasure systems working diffrently?
i.e flare temperatures, chaff effective area
Doing God's work my dude
Another seriously good video and very clear explanation, thank you on behalf of all dcs pilots. Keep up the good work
Fantastic vid, really informative and much appreciated :)
Extremely helpful as usual, thank you!
Thanks for excellent tutorial. Subscribed.
Learning the Hornet by you. Keep those videos coming. thank you!
So countermeasures forward is always program 5 and countermeasures aft is always pprogram 1?
A very useful & informative video, thank you.
Thanks from france !!
Thanks redkite awesome no nonsense advice well received. Will you make a custom knee board for the 18 like you did for the harrier?
I've been working on a kneeboard though it's not where i'd like it to be for public release yet
thank you i never leave comments but this was a no nonsense tutorial, well done
Thank you Sean! I've gotten tired of rambling tutorials and decided i'd do something about it myself :)
how many flares do you have? i flared like 5 times and ran out
Why is F/A-18C countermeasures so counterintuitive...
Heck yeah 👍🏻thx for the training videos this one for sure
Thank you for the tutorial!
thx mate couldnt find the CM Program Page!
Good stuff, the more and more I get into the Hornet and the same back when I ws trying out BMS... I just don't understand why would anyone design an aircraft (system, HOTAS wise) which is not based on the A-10C layout. But I guess the A-10C layout came out a lot later compared to these systems.
The A-10C just has the systems, pages, CMS, HOTAS so much more conveniently placed
Yeah the F-16 and A-10 are much nicer to operate the displays.
I'd go as further as A-10 > the rest (maybe the F-22/F-35 can beat it :D and the Rhino)
Another useful guide, thanks RedKite!
Your tutorials are the best!
Exactly what I needed. Thank you.
I'm having trouble getting the BIT test on the ECM. I don't see the lights by the MC saying Go/No Go. Nothing is lit up during test or operation (if it is). What am I missing? I turn the dial to STBY, BIT, XMIT nothing shows on any of them.
I'm not 100% sure it's working completely, these tutorials are made from a mixture of official dcs manual, natops and tactical documents for the real aircraft. If the RWR displays correctly and plays the tones during test you can assume it's functional for the moment.
Thank you Redkite. What a great tutorial! This is the first I‘ve seen from you and I really like your style of doing it: great footage and a perfectly timed and calm voice overs. Outstanding. Subscribed.
Thanks Christian!
You are my hero.
doesn't work, I managed to set the countermeasure program 1, but when i
press countermeasure forward and aft nothing happens, I don't even know
how it decides which program goes to which countermeasure button press
(IE how do i make countermeasure program 1 go to the countermeasure
forward button.).
#1 Master arm on
#2 got to ew page and press MODE until MAN (program number) shows
#3 Forwards will run prog #5
#4 Aft will run the prog number selected on the EW page, which is changed with step
#5 setting the dispenser switch to bypass forces aft press flare and forepress chaff bypassing the programs.
Actually when on the ground the ALE-47 stays off, even if the dispenser switch is on. Not sure if this is a bug or not. As soon as I took off, it changed from off to stby
That's the weight on wheels protection system, it prevents accidental discharge of weapons and countermeasures whilst on the ground to protect the ground crew and those around it.
Redkite, my jammer isn't turning on, and nothing I can find online is helping me figure it out. I'll turn the switch to standby, and there are no indications that it is receiving power. Please help
The Jammer is not yet implemented, so does not actually function. It'l behave has stated in this video, when it's eventually added.
What did I wrong? In your video at 1:32 it shows EW. For me in the game it shows always EW OFF. I did the procedure as shown in the video.
Did you switch on the systems during start up? (hotstarts miss the power for the rwr system for example)
This video helped me so much! Awesome content!
is there anyway you can show a video on how to setup the warthog joystick for the DCS F/A-18C hornet very much appricated
Ive got a video covering what's important to bind for the f/a-18c on my channel.
My EW page says off for all 3 things at the top and I followed this but the middle won't cross out. I can drop flares but I dont have an rwr
@9.00
RedKite has BY FAR, the best tutorials..... Easy to understand, and all in a relatively short amount of time.
VERY efficient. Well made.
F-14 systems some time I hope?
Thank you very much for this video. It greatly helped me with my countermeasures, rwr and ew!
You MUST tell me how your graphics on DCS are so sharp! What are your settings and hardware?
ruclips.net/user/RedKiteRenderabout Most settings are on their highest, im also using nvidia AA at the moment.
This video will be responsible for saving my butt in many future dogfights! +1 sub!
Thx for this detailed tutorial! Keep up the good work. Great style, competent + calm. I just didn't get whats going to get implemented during full release - additional dispensers?
There are additional bays for what's referred to as Gen-X expendables these are special deployable ecm's and decoys that'l really change how we see countermeasures in dcs when they're implemented.
Thx, I'll do some more research into the F-18. I wasn't sure if buying such a high-fidelity module was the right choice for me - given the limitations of my system: using an i7-4770 (could do overclocking but so far no), recently got myself a better graphics card for free - Gforce 970 lol... + 8mb RAM for free, now running it with 24MB... I have 2 SSDs and TrackIR5 pro but my HOTAS is the main limitation currently: Thrustmaster Hotas X- has only very few buttons so I use keyboard + mouse a lot. Works for single player and F5E + FC3 modules thpugh! But now I am starting to enjoy the Hornet already! Very easy to handle, 2nd carrier landing attempt trapped No2 wire successfully after a bolter! Tanking unsuccessful so far but I'll learn it eventually...
Keep it up man. The learning curve is part of the fun.
Excellent vid! I have a question, though. If the countermeasures are set to Auto, how does it know that an IR launch has happened?
Do you know if there is a knob or keybinding?
Thank you sir, it helped me a lot.
I'm guessing the red slap switch countermeasure button next to the throttle isn't modeled yet.
Correct, you can push it but nothing will happen for the moment.
Anyone else have a problem where the rwr isn’t emitting sound in the cockpit?
Not run into any issues myself, have you turned the rwr on / checked the volume control for it? (it may help also setting the sound options to hear like in helmet as this reduces the outside noises.)
Is anyone else unable to get ASPJ to power up? I've followed the instructions in the video, to include waiting 4 minutes with the ECM switch in Standby to allow time for warm-up. I never get the left or right panel lights, and never see the ASPJ in an "On" condition. Help !!!!
The self defence jammer is currently not operational.
Thanks
How to bind this properly? There's two CM buttons: aft, fwd, and just plain "countermeasures dispense". If I bind and press the regular "countermeasures dispense" button, the aircraft slowly dumps all my countermeasures with no way to stop it. What's up with that?
The Countermeasures dispense button, is the Panic button, it's intended for use when the pilot is confused and in a dangerous situation, it'l drop flares and chaff usually until out, so the pilot can focus on getting the hell out of there in a hurry. You'l want to use Aft and Fwd normally. Their function is defined by the CMS settings as explained in the video.
@@RedKiteRender thank you, I re-read and rewatched everything, got it. Only confusion comes from the controls page, the "dispense" button should be labeled "panic dispense" maybe!
every time it shoots more than 1 flare :(
Thanks for doing this!
Hi mate. Great vid .. Im a weapons tech and worked on the F18 and many others .... the master arm in all aircraft does not stop the flares and chaff systems. This may be a DCS issue. ;) FYI.
Thanks Gunnie! yes i've heard that before and found it weird myself. It's a quirk of DCS, hopefully it'l get patched later.
What does continuous wave mean? Couldnt CW and SAM be the same?
It's just the type of radar, older types broadcast in pulses, then wait for the response, CW listen and send at the same time so they update faster.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why would I want it to set to "Bypass" if it disables the system? What does it mean/do exactly. It seems in your video you have set it to "On" at all times.
disables the CMS system not the dispensers. So it won't run any of the programs, instead dropping one chaff or flare depending on direction pressed. So if the program selected is bad, or the system isn't working right you can quickly bypass it to regain controls of countermeasures.
@@RedKiteRender Thanks for explaining, this "game" is insane. I installed it last week and was hooked instantly. Your videos are very helpful 🙏 Currently I am playing without a HOTAS, I play in VR with 2 controllers. I press all buttons and switches with my hands inside the cockpit, so the only things I have to bind are all HOTAS controls. I am trying to create a scheme for multi layer buttons control with the help of OpenVR2Keys, because the amount of buttons are limited on VR controllers in general.
can these be permanently saved?
RedKite: Thank you Sir and Keep Up the Great Work. VERY HELPFUL!!!
Hey Redkite, any chance on an automatic throttle control tutorial? The cruise mode seems to be pretty straight forward but the landing modes are alluding me.
The ATC will hold your mach number, or attempt to hold your on speed aoa for approaches(with gear down), however, it seems the aoa hold function of ATC is not working at the moment, it always puts me into a death dive.
Yeah, me too. I thought it was something I was doing. Should be cool when implemented though. Thanks for the reply.
Excelente video, muchas gracias por la colaboración. Thanks a lot.
when I flip the dispenser switch to on nothing happens no bit starts why?
Are you on the ground? it'l only function with weight off wheels.
Great! Stringent is the word!
thank you!!
When i try to turn the ECM System on nothing happens. It doesnt go into standby and non of the lights on the top light up at all. Is there something i missed?
The Self defence jammer is not currently implemented, i included basic instructions here to help keep the video future proofed.
Ahh okay Gotit, thanks :)
Thank you very much.
this game is so beautiiful
HELLO i'm french, for dispance contremesure the boutton is ?
D and E
RedKite Ok ;) bye bye TK
As usual - brilliant, thorough and clear.
Damn good schooling..
As always, clear, concise and very well explained. Thank you.
Auto mode doesnt work
The automatic dispense mode doesn’t work for me
Automatic dispense will only work with radar threats, i'm not 100% sure if it's been implemented in the sim, I'd stick to a manual mode for now.
But how will the automatic mode react, if I put it on s/a and changed all programs before?
Will it use one of my saved programs?
I couldn't say, i suspect it'l use it's own programs tailored to each radar threat. I think the semi- and auto modes are currently in development however, so i'd stick with manual or bypass for now.
Great turorial.
Magic! thanks
Finally i found it... Thanks from Spain!
Great video but still can't get chaff and flares to fire - do you need to have the pod fitted and if so how do you do this - sorry for being a newb but getting slaughtered without any countermeasures
No pod required, flares/chaff should be loaded by default. Master ARM on is required for some unexplained reason. I'd use the override position if you're just looking to get into it quick, then just push the countermeasures switch forwards/backwards to release.
Thanks for getting back to me - I have default E and D for countermeasures and even designated joystick and throttle stick buttons but nothing seems to make flares and chaff come out of the aircraft - apologies for being clueless but I have tried everything including custom loads for weapons and yet nothing. I have used external view - hit the designated buttons and nothing - sorry but am at a loss now....your support very much appreciated...
Are you doing a cold start? It's possible you're missing a step and not powering up the counter measures system
All sorted and thanks for the great videos and tips...