Mary Kelly's Inquest - Viewing The Body And The Room.
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The inquest into Mary Kelly's death opened at Shoreditch Town Hall on the morning of Monday the 12th of November, 1888.
One the jury had bee sworn in, they were taken to the nearby mortuary, where they viewed the body of the victim.
From here they were ushered along Commercial Street and into Dorset Street.
Here, they squeezed through the narrow entrance into Miller's Court and were taken into number 13, the room in which Jack the Ripper had murdered his latest victim.
Accompanying the jurors was a special reporter from The Pall Mall Gazette, and that night his report on what he had observed was published.
It gives us a first hand account of what happened that day, and of the scene in the streets as those who lived in the district reacted to the horror that had occurred in their midst.
In this video, you will be able to follow the report as it appeared in the Gazette, as you see the locations mentioned, as they are today and as they were at the time.
Can you imagine being the poor wretch that took residence in that room after that happened? Not just knowing it happened there, but, there had to be blood stains all over the room they couldn’t remove. It’s ghastly to think about. Good job as always Rich!
I'm planning a video about later occupants of the room, Dave.
@@JackTheRipperTourscan’t wait Richard! 👍🏻
I think that most people would be happy to have a roof over their head.
That’s going to be a very interesting video! I will stay tuned.
I read an article that a policeman went round to look at the room (a year later i think) . There was a couple staying there and they didn’t seem fazed by it and the old man was on the bed facing the blood stains. Horrible
I find the statement "...it was by no means a horrible sight." quite perplexing. I've seen plenty of messed up stuff on gore sites and still, the face of Mary Kelly is somehow the most haunting of all even if only glimpsed through a 136 year old photograph. Maybe, because you can still tell she was beautiful, and it is really sad...
I avoid looking at it. I had an idea that the horror of the crime scene was a way to prevent people looking into it. It was to do as much damage to the people looking at it almost as the victim. Vengeful for being mocked by the media.
Where is the photo?
There's an upscaled colourised version of it, which only makes it worse... It's the stuff of nightmares
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There was a local reporter who was researching the ripper case back on the 70s, he was told to find a local nun who was a very young girl at a local convent. She told him that if Mary Kelly had been murdered first, then the others would be still alive, makes you think...?
This poor woman.
One thing that I struggle with about this subject, is that I don't look into the injuries in too much detail, because I find them distressing. Yes I guess that I am a crap Ripperologist. The pictures of Mary Kelly are a thing of nightmares, even viewed 140 years later, in black and white.
well its a good job the photograph of what was left of kelly is in black and white really.
I agree, I have seen the photo in a book and once here on RUclips. I could barely look at it. It is absolutely horrific.
some say Jack did not do this
I can totally understand that - I have seen the picture of what was left of her and words can't even begin to describe it - how one human being could perpetrate such an outright atrocity upon another simply beggars belief. Regardless of how she chose to live her life, she didn't deserve to meet her maker in such horrific fashion. It's a very long time since I saw the photograph, but it is still etched indelibly in my mind - once such a thing is witnessed, it's extremely difficult to forget - I'd defy anyone not to be utterly shocked and stunned at the sheer butchery visited upon this poor girl.
The fisherman's widow engraving and open cupboard details were fascinating.
Even though it was violent times and they had probably seen many awful things but the police who were the first on the scene must have nightmares the rest of their lives.
Thank you Mr. Jones.
I appreciate your work tremendously. Thank you for continuing this channel with all its documentation of events regarding JTR, victims, hearings, suspects and occasional little wonderful detours to Victorian life in general in the Whitechapel area.
I owe you a few pints next time I’ll drop by your neighborhood.
Looking forward to raising a glass with you.
His name is always cut off by the playlist in the corner. What is it?
We focus so much on the murders, we often overlook the police procedure that went into investigating them.
What is most disturbing is this. Sir Robert Anderson, Donald Swanson and Inspector Abberline all stated (on record) that they knew what happened and the case was solved.Few people studying the case ask the obvious question. WHY DID THEY NOT DISCLOSE THE ANSWER? This is a giant red flag being ignored. It means if they chose to be silent, then the answer has some gravity attached to it. Abberline refused to disclose, but did throw a bone stating " the solution DOES lie at the top".
I am 99% sure the state is envoled in this and ultimately it is to do with treason. And when you consider Kelly's injuries were similar to the treasonist Guy Fawkes, it is a fair bet.
That poor woman, it's barbaric what one human can do to another.
Thank you. Your narration is flawless!
Very kind of you, Michael.
Should sound like Pal Mal
Jeez. What a sight that must have been. Such a particularly brutal murder. Excellent narration 🍻
Well up to your usual high standard. Thank you.
Much appreciated
@@JackTheRipperTours My brother had to make a speech at the end of a meeting. As a guest he was expected to say nice things. One point is that a guest has to say something about the food. At this particular venue the food was truly disgusting. Bob said "The food was what we have come to expect" and left it at that. Your material was "WWHCTE" but in a very different way.
Where there any mortuary photos of Mary Kelly? (Apart from the crime scene ones)
A very disturbing thought, but I’m glad you brought it up!
Splendid video as always. I believe there were around 5 murders in Millers Court throughout it's history. A video on later occupants will be very interesting too. I wonder if the Millers Court sign above the archway was saved during it's demolition?
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Good job and happy sunday Richard!
And to you too Marcus.
"I give my name that all know of me, so history do tell, what love can do to a gentle man born."
Yours truly
Jack the Ripper
Dated this third day of May 1889
Super Richard, will watch tonight 👍
I have a question for anyone who may know. Is it true that the police found burned clothing in the room and speculated that the murderer burned the clothes to light up the room or is there no evidence for this? Thank you
Richard?
Yes there were burnt clothes and a woman's hat in the firegrate.
Thank you, Mr. J.
Excellent presentation - both vocally and visually.
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Excellent as always Richard,interesting the killer destroyed poor Mary’s face yet left her eyes apparently intact,if indeed the same killer he cut upward facing v’s under the eyes of previous victim Catherine Eddowes I believe,wonder what a criminal psychologist would say?
there’s two things wrong this story 1st Mary was meant to have gone back to Ireland so if she did who was in the room ? someones poor daughter thats for sure , 2nd if her face was that mutilated how could they tell who the poor girl was . i’ve seen many of these programmes concerning the ripper and more than one has stated it couldn’t have been Mary being she went back to Ireland but unfortunately
there’s probably no one would be alive today to confirm it being it’s a 126 year old cold case that will never to be solved , even though she was meant to have had a wee daughter back in Ireland thats still 5 generation that has gone by . all i can write to end this is R.I.P Girls but how the hell can they after being mutilated like they was
It was Mary's friend Winifred Collis in that room, Mary escaped to Canada.
Many thanks for this :)
This was very well done,thank you x
I think they tore that building down.
You wouldn't believe it. As usual there was an ad at the start of the vid. I don't know if the ads are controlled by dodgy AI or if someone's got a sick sense of humour, but the ad was for a knife sharpener!
It's YT being a nuisance
Poor Mary, a horrible fate for such a pretty girl. 😔
thankyou for the video sweetheart x
I wonder how Jack left that room without rising suspicion assuming that he had blood stains. Long coat to hide the stains? Some method of mutilation that didnt leave blood on his clothes?
In the early 1970s I was working as a photographer for the London Hospital Medical College in Whitechapel.
In the museum were two preserved victims of Jack the Ripper, although I forget which two they were. One of my duties was to photograph them for use in books and other publications. Whether the museum still retains the bodies is unknown to me.
Even after the passage of just about 80 years the bodies were in ‘reasonable’ condition and during my career as a forensic photographer I was to see much worse. I presume that my photos, and the original scene of crime photos must be archived somewhere.
Hi Peter, I was born in Mile End Hospital Bow, so I’ve long had a fascination with Jack the Ripper, although I moved from the East End many years ago.
When I started to read about the dreadful murders in the late 1980s’ I realised that they’d only occurred 100 years’ ago, and yet it was like another world, where poverty and crime were inexorably linked.
And the lives of the victims were horrific before they were killed, having to resort to selling themselves, which is all they had.
No doubt Marie Kelly thought that her little room provided her with a semblance of safety, but it was precious little defence against someone with the bloodlust of the Ripper.
In answer to your question, I’m pretty sure that both Catherine Edowes, and Polly Nichols were buried, and I pray that they are both resting in peace.
I’m sure they would be amazed to think that we are still debating their stories in the 21st century.
Terrifying Indeed ' Poor Woman🙏
There are actual photographs of the scene with and without Kelley in them.
When you see the photos from the crime scene you realize that Jack the Ripper was a pretty f----d up guy.
What a great and informative video well done!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you
I highly recommend the book 'The Five...victims of Jack the Ripper'. It tells you the background life of each victim and they should be remembered as people instead of a brutal post mortem image taken after death. Sadly in most horrific murder cases the perpetrator is more discussed and remembered in comparison to the victims! Sadly these women lived at the edges of Victorian society in poverty surviving day to day for their next meal or a bed to sleep in...but each had their own story and how they ended up an easy target for a serial killer.
Read it , the author was adamant the victims were murdered while sleeping rough !!
Yes, The Five is extremely flawed, with the author Hallie Rubenhold casually dismissing huge portions of the evidence available in the Ripper case (the remaining Police reports and most of what was written in newspapers). She is very selective in what she uses to push her (imo) ludicrous assertion that, as per last commenter, the victims were killed while asleep and that there is NO evidence that most of them ever solicited (😂). She misrepresents quotes, and selectively edits one quote in particular in an appallingly egregious manner, in order to twist it into supporting her view.
You might want to consider moving the end card so we can see the credits
I wish the place was still there or we had more photos of it.
How can you wish that place was still there, it was a slum, as was most of the East End back then.
If Dorset Street was still standing it would be much prized now. The buildings were mostly 18th century and would now, gentrified, be considered to be beautiful and much sought after. Tourist Boards would promote it as a fine example of period housing, as is the case for Fournier and Fashion Streets. The destruction of Dorset Street was a great loss for the East End, as was Thrawl Street and Flower and Dean Street. @@janetpendlebury6808
Wonderful story teller, thank you for Your clear and informative video. ❤Higher Ups knew who the Killer was and warned he that they couldn't keep covering and redirecting suspicion away from him, most were Prominent Men, it was ok when they could guess that maybe it was a Butcher or Someone off of the street but if Jack kept killing he would be found out and that's one of the reasons I believe this last attack was so bloody ( also for this one he had a room ) to be honest i don't believe he could have gone much further. My heart breaks for this Poor Souls.
Richard just a few questions please, was there ever any mention of a man’s pipe having been found in Mary’s room? And also is it thought that the Ripper burned several of her clothes in the fireplace that night so he could see what he was doing? (Supposedly this resulted in the melting of a tea pot in Mary’s fireplace that night.) and also where did the myth that JTR hung bits of Mary’s intestines from nails in her flat come from? Thank you.
That seems like a very short inquest. It makes you wonder why, What's the rush? I've always wondered why the Murders stopped so suddenly? I would like to throw another of my theories on my growing pile. If Scotland Yard wanted to put an end to the White Chapple murders, The best way would be to stop reporting on The Ripper. I believe if the Queen contacted the head of Newspapers and "Ask' Tell them to stop reporting on the Ripper they would stop the very moment she made the request. I also feel honored that you remembered me and my struggle. You are a fine man Richard
There was a great deal of comment in the press as to why this one was so short. Although never stated officially I believe it was to stop the press reporting in salubrious detail. Hope you are doing well?
@@JackTheRipperTours Much better.. treatment is hard.. I never thought about it that way , The Press was out of hand.. They were printing more gruesome details than any news outlet today .. But hold on I'll be back with another theory. I'm hot on his trail.. PS sorry about making you a suspect
She might have been able to stop the 'better' papers of the time to stop reporting, although I doubt it, they sold a lot of papers due to Jack. But even if she did, the lower end papers and pamphlets etc would have carried on reporting.
What that bastard did to her is unforgivable, RIP MARY KELLY ❤😢 . Stephen Scotland.
I always found Mary Kelly's death to be more barbaric than any other,maybe because the killer had more time or the killer wasn't jack the ripper ,,fantastic channel
Nicely done
Thanks!
Would there have been morgue photographs taken of Kelly? If so, were they taken from her file?
I presume there were morgue photos, but they've been lost or destroyed if they existed. There is the crime scene photo of her on the bed.
@@JackTheRipperToursI first saw this when I was about 12 looking at Donald Rumblelow's book in Smith's in St Albans. If it hadn't been for the stout medieval upright beam next to me, I would have slid fainting to the floor. I couldn't work out the photo and then when it did, the horror of what the Ripper had done to that poor woman hit me violently.
I always thought there are some missing photos of MJK's body & crime scene.
One detective wrote that her eyes were photographed...
Also if you see the second photo you'll notice the bed was moved, probably to photograph the pool of blood underneath that Dr Bond described.
And possibly photos of her clothes, fireplace, belongings, etc.
God bless Mary kelly she deserved better.🙏
WHAT A HORRIBLE DEATH THE POOR WOMAN
JACK THE RIPPER WAS TRULY AN EVIL CRUEL MADMAN
R I P MARY 🙏🌷
The room is still there ,
No.Demolished in 1928
Excellent as Usual 😉
The only other photo that was this horrible was Elizabeth Short. But the Mary Kelly was worse
Yeah the Short one is appalling. Some sick people in the world.
Really interesting!
The picture on the wall troubles me. How sure are you, you have the right one? I am not particularly clear of the details, but isn't there some debate as to which picture MJK actually had? Excellent video by all means though.
Hi Chris, yes I'm not saying it is the actual one. This one is a copy of a version that was exhibited in 1868 and was then reproduced on engravings. There was another one from 1888, but I do not have copyright clearance on that.
From what I understand, serial murderers escalate with each murder. After what he did to that poor woman, he must have either been jailed for something else, in an asylum, or died. I don't recall hearing about any other murders as bad or worse than hers...if there had been, they would have immediately been connected to the Ripper.
I Love this man's voice. So soothing and such an amazing Story teller. To bad I couldn't see who it was because of the st*pid video picture that covered it. >:(
Scene of crime photo was to difficult to access then?
If you Google Mary Kelly you can find photos from the crime scene.
It looks really, really nasty.
You say the drawings are the closest that we can get to seeing a Jack the Ripper victim. Well no. Maybe it is for taste or monetisation on RUclips but photographs taken at the time of the room both outside and in and of the body are on the web. I was quite surprised that you did not use them. An unpleasant image of the body is on the Wikipedia page.
That's no what I said at all. I said that the Pall Mall Gazette account is the closest we are going to get to witnessing the aftermath of a Jack the Ripper murder and of the scene at the mortuary ad the location at which the murder occurred. In addition, I do not use the photograph of Mary Kelly in the room in any of my videos. As you say it is on the web if people want to see it, but a lot of people do not like looking at it. As you say, it is an "unpleasant image" and it does not serve any real purpose showing it.
What can one add to this? Nothing I think. The newspaper reports are thankfully restrained in the details they give, proof perhaps rhey were not as sensationalist as later commentators claimed.
The details they reported were pretty sensational for the times.
Pretty gruesome!
beautiful church
New meaning to "We'll always have Paris"
I always found Mary Kelly's murder the most gruesome, she was almost chopped to bits with her face cut to pieces quite a graphic crime scene, poor woman and how her death was later used for publicity
we're not far from that
There is not certainty about the identity of the victim.
Watching the Video from Beijing, the time is 3:31 AM.
Thanks for watching. How is Beijing in the early hours of the morning?
There was more than. 5 murders most likely the ripper was almost seen caught or disturbed during the acts. At least 9 murders investigate before first. Suppose and last suppose most important things let's make sure crimes like this do not happen again anywhere
Leave it to the British to make such a spectacle of a simple police procedure....! Jury, court hearing instead of investigating the crime. When you expose in that matter the body of the victim, you are, in fact advertising ways in which only the perpetrator would know, therefore botching the investigation...!
I have read somewhere that the killer (killers?) may have spent two hours mutilating Mary Kelly.
Rather more Candid report...I have read lot of books on the case ..old classic ..like yourself real study...Modern stuff say ' Kelly had her own Flat' ..!! ... can you answer a question was bits hanging from top of room ...the photo does seem to have something ..bit morbid but is it a myth ....thank you ...interesting ...
Hi Andrew. The bit about flesh hanging from the walls and ceiling is a myth.
Thank you ....I trust your word ..Thanks again ..Love your content.
Pretty lady with a horrible death
They all thought it was mary kelly
my personal opinion on this is they may have been looking for the wrong sex , a woman scorned is a bloody dangerous thing and a woman getting a present off her husband that she definitely didn’t want could turn her into something uncontrollable , these girls would trust another woman more than a bloke even though the punters was men but a woman is more than capable of doing such a things , yes you may all say I’m wrong but then who knows unless it was one of your family members who was guilty
Richard.. I don't mean to be a sticky wicket Mate. "Wait is Mate English? or Australian? Nevertheless.. I'm waiting on your new video. So Chip Chip old chap... lol
I've been a bit delayed this week! Hoping to put it live on Tuesday night. Hope all is well with you?
Jack the Ripper was a POLICE OFFICER
There was a report of one officer in this timeline in this area who was caught “ interfering with a corpse “
Doesn’t it make sense now
Im convinced her boyfriend at time committed this murder !
It's likely if not inevitable that the ghoul Charlie Cross will turnout to be Mary's dad - it's hard to disprove so it's therefore possible . Where are my manners Hello there Richard .
Hello James. What an excellent theory. I'm going to run with it!
We have no evidence that Charles Cross was a "ghoul", and he'd only have been in his early to mid teens when Mary Kelly was likely born.
You are totally delusional with that one
First!
Hoorah!
Well, what's really haunting is the fact that Mary Kelly doesn't exist. So it really shows how gullible people are. The lengths that people will go to just to be relevant..
What nonsense are you waffling about?
The butler did it !😂😂