When I was a kid I thought a base model car was expensive when they first crossed that $10k point. It's absurd that the kneecapped "affordable" model is almost $50k. Unbelievable.
I recall early on into the proliferation of EVs one of the talking points was "EVs are overall less complex than gas cars, so they'll be cheaper to build and maintain". Wonder what happened to that sentiment.
@@RatBürgerSk8 I think that might be true but unfortunately it allows them to make an even bigger profit if they price it really high. Plus at this point EVs are more of a trend with customers so they're gonna use that as a reason to raise the price on these
Yeah shits whack man.. 120-130k for Escalades? They used to be a 40k suv.. same with bmws, base bmws used to be like 32-33k max now you cantget one under 45k.
You know what’s pretty sad is how hard GM pushed to keep EV from happening. I mean, actively being scummy pieces of shit to squelch innovation. Now that it’s where the market is heading, they are all about how great and innovative they are.
While I agree that the Silverado EV does seem more like an Avalanche than a Silverado, why would Chevy want to name their new halo truck after a Chevy model which had a negative reputation and a poor sales history?
The lack of comments are suspicious, but then again I've only towed one (relatively lightweight) thing in a 5 year span. The benefits of electric trucks outweigh the inconvenience of less towing range in my opinion.
Seeing reviews of the lightning and rivian, ev trucks seem to only retain 30% of their original range when towing. Towing is a big deal for those regularly hauling campers, trailers, equipment, etc… then when winter hits, the range suffers even more.
@@nativeoutdoors1780 Batteries don't stop working at 70k miles unless there's something wrong. In the USA, by law, batteries have to be warrantied for eight years, 100k miles.
@@scott8919 I know someone that had to bye a Battery for a car - $10,000 dollars. And these are gonna be in the $12,000 - $15,000 range. Those that don't have the money will have to either make a loan or park it.
The Lightning launched a year ago had a base pay of $40k which quickly jumped to $55k in less than a year. I guarantee the Silverado EV won't be $41k when it finally hits the road , but at least in the mid $50's.
One of the reasons Ford raised prices is because the dealers were all making 10* as much profit on each lightning as the manufacturer. They wanted some of that cake.
Should have called it the Avalanche, because thats exactly what I thought when I saw the thumbnail. Looks like a new gen of the avalanche than a silverado. Even has the same bed features
There’s a GMC Sierra EV variant coming out as well, looks the same as the Chevy Silverado EV, both look like the Chevy Avalanche! Typical GM copy paste! 🤷🏻♂️
Ford used the full size F-150 and made it electric by adding a battery between the frame rails and adding IRS, GM just decided to try to pretend their $100,000 status symbol is a full size pickup.
@@concinnus Get over it lol, not after GM & the CEO, got bailed out by the American taxpayer, taxpayers like myself, GM has always been union auto worker overpriced junk!
And the $107k variant will be built to the same price point as the $41k variant. A WT model with some take off wheels will look 95% of the top of the line model.
@@sabersz had to cut costs somewhere for the 40k variant, range probably taking a hit too but for an electric full-size truck it’s starting at a solid price
@@jldude84 let's not forget Lamborghini are VW parts bin cars as well. Seems all the manufacturers just try to cheap out on the assembly process as much as possible.
I hope there’s a very good seal between the box and the back seat. From snow to rain, the box is going to eventually end up with a pool of water in it, imagine that flowing into the back seat.
The supervisors and managers are probably getting the nicer ones first. Expect the standard admonishment against using company property recklessly: "You break it, you bought it." It wasn't that long ago that the blue-collar grunts got the stripped out Work truck models with a vinyl bench seat, manual windows, no AC and no radio.
Nobody. This is a product that is designed to fail. If they wanted to make it reasonable it would be half the HP and more cost effective. GM knows this will fail and they’ll keep selling gas Silverado’s.
Even a hybrid honestly! The f150 powerboost only has a 6’ bed. Cannot understand why there isn’t a hybrid superduty. It makes for the perfect work vehicle
a daily driver as a work truck? It makes no sense. If you are a person that uses a truck for actual work, hauling, towing, going to job sites, etc... I still would never want one to have to rely on. Cold weather performance, range while towing, charge times, reliability and availability of charging network, all mean that you are going to be sacrificing a lot of time and potential range. and If you work for yourself, or use your truck to make money... they leave a lot to be desired.
@@jamespetkwitz8737 Depends on the type of work, if you don't drive long distances EV's are a good idea. Low maintenance, high performance. Even cold weather isn't a big deal now with self-heating. Now that Amazon is switching to EV, we'll see if other companies follow. It's a no brainer if they are actually more economically viable.
GM stated that the work truck will NOT come with the midgate. Meaning that people who would be most likely to use it, the kind that use their truck to do more than go to the grocery store, will have to pay large sums of money for additional features they didn't want in order to get something that can haul 8 foot cargo. It hurt when you said GM has no current plans for any other versions of the Silverado EV. I understand that can change but the only thing holding me back on an electric truck is the lack of an 8 foot bed or at least something remotely close. A truck without a normal bed is just a really, REALLY heavy rolling paper weight. If I wanted four doors and a trunk I'd get a Tesla.
Payload numbers are anemic in the Silverado EV. It's all due to the massive 200 kWh battery. Doesn't matter how much it can tow, when "payload capacities" will be taxed long before "towing capacities" are reached.
Ev's suck for heavy loads. Trucking industry didn't land on diesel by accident. Light short distance commuters are effective but it just doesn't scale well.
@@k5guy lol! You do realize there is a video of the Tesla Semi driving 500 miles in California, without recharging, with a total weight of 82,000lbs here on RUclips? Which should we believe, the anonymous internet "expect," or a video we can watch proving them completely wrong?
510 horsepower....for 10 minutes. What's the tow range? What's the capacity in cold weather? How much does it cost to charge? How much will it cost to replace the batteries? How much cobalt does the little boy in Africa have to dig up at gunpoint for each truck? Does Chevy lie about the specs as we've found out with other manufacturers? Why are you shilling for vehicles that are ridiculously priced and can't be afforded like it's normal to pay $107k for a truck? History will not be kind to the people that supported these debacles blindly with all the downfalls being obvious.
@rushevents glad to see someone that's not an outright shill and gets it! Congrats for being able to think for yourself and not be told what to think like everyone else these days. Take at look at some of these pathetic comments that are either bots, payed for shills or brainwashed sheep. So many useful idiots around these days. Seeing comments such as yours gives me hope there's still non-npc free thinking humans around. God bless you and yours, stay vigilant and ever free!
Would be cool to see Doug’s list of vehicles he would personally buy new and used in every category from inexpensive to expensive. I think the series would be a big hit.
Gotta say, I'm way more excited about these Ford and GM trucks that I've been about most (if not all) hybrids and EV cars. A lot of thoughtful design appears to have gone into this machine, very cool!
The "mid-gate" idea is great. The increasing popularity of shortbed trucks has been kind of annoying to me. Allowing the owner to fold down the back seats and have a larger than standard load floor is a great feature. In addition to the back window, I'd love to see the roof over the rear seats be removable as well. Then you could seat six when you want, or have a standard size bed when you want. The proportions of the truck would still be ugly, but it'd be incredibly practical.
@@deansmits006 that feature on avalanches isn't all its cracked up to be, with time the tolerances become so bad that you get drafts, wind noise, moisture and leaks etc. Also lock and hinge issues. Big surprise, having the back half of your cabin open into somthing you slam cargo unto isn't the best idea long term.
Midgate is technology used in avalanche 20 years ago my stepdad had a 2003 avalanche he bought brand new and only used it a handful of times over the years
@@CyberCrusader27 He stated specifically that it won't be available in the Silverado, but apparently will be in the GMC version. I suspect that it won't be long until somebody figures out how to swap the firmware from a GMC to a Chevy and unless there's some associated hardware that's needed, problem solved.
The only reason they are starting with trucks is so they can keep the price super high. They will fail at all regular truck duties. EV's aren't even close to ready yet, the recent cold snap made that very clear. The market wants reliable V8's
Am I the only person crossing their arms and saying to themselves "no fleet manager with a sound mind will *ever* give a 500HP pickup to an employee to drive around; their liability carrier simply won't permit it"?
The more I look at the prices of new cars the more is likely that many people including me will never be able to afford a new one in the EV era Just too much cars over 100k😢
Doug should have a disclaimer that says, These are not my opinions. I am paid to promote this vehicle. He was the go to guy for reviews. He's now just a mascot.
The Avalanche was a unique truck. It was based on the Suburban, Escalade. The best part was you can camp inside and if a bear or something come at you, you can close the rear gate door and crawl inside the interior to the driver seat and take off. No need to exit the vehicle. You can sleep comfortably and still have space for your camping gear. And with the door down you have a lengthy amount of space to haul things.
Been camping with my 1st Gen Avalanche a couple times now. It is the most versatile vehicle on the road IMO! I was even curious enough to look into why Chevy ended production, and it boiled down to sales of the Avalanche were taking away from Silverado sales.. which they were prioritizing in effort to be #1 pick-up truck. Perhaps that is why they left the Avalanche name in favor of the Silverado for this new EV.
Americans can. Stop being a poor Canadian and ditch that communist country for the soon to be communist United States. If you get in soon you might be able to taste a little freedom before what's left of it is gone.
“100 miles of range in 10 minutes” means this thing takes forever to charge. Remember, EV’s charge exponentially slower the closer they get to full. I bet this takes an hour to get it to 80% or more.
These electric trucks are a novelty item for a wealthy suburban guy who goes to Home Depot 2x a year. Not until 2040 will an electric pickup do what a gas pickup can, and I can't imagine what they'll cost by then.
One of the things that have really detracted me from the EV car market has been the fact that all the controls go through menus on a screen (tesla!!!) so it's really nice to see the real climate controls and a physical volume knob in this truck. I can appreciate that.
I cancelled my Rivian order just before I was to take delivery precisely because of that. Touchscreens are a terrible replacement for physical buttons for important controls.
All these companies have grand ideas of replacing ICE vehicles with EV but they kept pricing them at 70k and up. Yeah good luck ever getting the average person to ever buy one.
They don't want the average person to have a car. Simple. They do that in other countries with driver license. You can't get a license unless you have a degree, make a certain salary ect. To keep the traffic down. In America or developed countries they can't do that. So they just price this stuff insanely high. So eventually po folk can't be on the roads. Same concept as hi dollar gated communities. They don't want peasant filth. And with the world rapidly heading to overpopulation, they got to do something lol
An awesome thing about the midgate is that you could sleep in the back of this. As an added bonus, as an electric vehicle, you could leave the ac/heat running overnight and with a tonneau cover or tent structure over the bed you could have it climate controlled (obviously far more energy efficient with cooling).
It's time to remove HVAC controls completely. For all my recent cars I've just set it to auto and never touched it again. Don't understand the hysteria around physical buttons for HVAC.
Well, thats cool and all but what about the folks that actually use their truck for work? What about the people who need a long bed? What about the people who need a service body or flat bed? A unibody truck does not leave any room for work related upfitting in the back. How are you going to pull your 5th wheel with a 6 foot bed?- kind of like the Avalanche- the swooping back of the cab takes up too much room for the tongue to swing around. Looks like a great toy, but GM needs to get us some real work trucks. Its like a Honda Ridgeline great for grocery getting and the occasional light trip to Home Depot- not something for doing serious work.
I feel like the Chevy Avalanche/Honda Ridgeline truck beds are both perfect for the vast majority of truck owners and also evidence the vast majority of truck owners should have just bought a vehicle capable of towing and a trailer.
America love it’s truck despite at least 75% aren’t using it for work. At least half will probably use the convenience of a truck bed 5x a year but most would probably do better with a minivan
Government regulations excluded trucks from many requirements. A vehicle capable of towing an equivalent trailer that DIDN'T qualify as a truck would cost more than $10k more. The biggest differences in regulations are emissions and fuel economy, so EVs don't need exemption. The Ridgeline was a truck shaped body on a minivan platform.
@@skyak4493 The Ridgeline doesn't appear to be very popular. I've NEVER seen many of them on the roads in all of the time that they've been available which has to be more than 18 years now, no?
and to think, I just read yesterday that when temperatures plunge like they did in the northeast last week, all EV's lose about 50% of their range. Meaning you wouldn't wanna get stuck in a blizzard in this bad boy. you'd probably end of freezing to death.
I can confirm this is true. My model 3 gets about half of its range in weather below 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Although I do have an older version without the new efficient heat pump in newer models.
And if you lose power, you're not going anywhere because you can't charge. Better make those 100 miles count. Solar panels don't work at night or when they're covered in snow and windmills don't work when it's not windy or when they're frozen.
@@bwofficial1776 If you lose power, many gas stations also stop working. With Vehicle-to-grid your EV can actually act as your own backup power supply for your house.
Even though I’m ford guy, if I were to buy an electric truck. This would be it. The Silverado ev looks better than the lightning. Hopefully it will be more capable and doesn’t suffer from the same problems as the lightning.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Oh yes, those 20k+ replacement batteries and super long charging times are great for fleets. We have 10+ Lightings in our fleet at work and they are always down or on a flat bed.
@@Smokkedandslammed Why are they "down or on a flat bed"? Sounds like your work just bought them to look green without considering use cases. Also, you are not expected to replace the batteries like you do on power drills and if there is something wrong with them, they should be replaced under warranty.
@@LAndrewsChannel I'm not to sure exactly what the problem is with them, we work right across from our fleet mechanics and I'm always seeing the Lightings pulled up in front of the bays or on a flat bed lol As well as the mechanics telling us they're always down. They can't work on the power train anyways cause none of them are certified to work on electrics like that. They certainly have a warranty but should they really need to be worked on that much hahaha As far as why we got them: the executives and managers get to drive them lmao They're not used as work trucks at all, just "fancy" people movers.
I'm crazy happy these are becoming more available but I really have trouble supporting a car company that took our 'bailout money' and built a factory in China immediately following. Especially when people are not targeted instead of corporations. Not to mention the pricing.
These trucks will surely be built in the US, both to avoid the chicken tax and to get the IRA credits. As for the company, none of GM's size is sinless.
@@Jisstifer83626 Lol, EV sales are growing ~50% YoY and they sell all they can make, despite gas staying cheap. They'll keep making gas trucks for dinosaurs like you 'til 2035, don't worry.
These days almost every car is like putting a down payment on a house and that’s not including in 10 years when the battery goes and your not under warranty you’ll be paying like 1/4 worth of the car for a new one
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit from 7:00 mins on you can see the back center window has a solid crack right down the center lol. my guess from someone slamming the seats back. Flexed the entire back body pannel.
The "family truck" segment is a large portion of the truck market. When I was looking for a truck the 4 door trucks were the most in demand. I wanted the shorter cab and they were a lot less popular. Standard cabs with no rear seats are even less popular.
Actually the Hummer only has 1000hp at launch mode time. The rest of the time it’s hp numbers are very similar to this Chevy RST. Also with the Hummer to get into that launch mode it’s quite a stupid and long process that takes about 30 seconds to initiate. By that time whoever you’re racing is already past the finish line.
I mean the hell would you wana race someone on the street or highway with a 10,000 pound bullet. Takes only one thing to go wrong to ruin someone's day permanently
@@mortiarty7842 Meanwhile in my country, vehicles with unladen weight exceeding 2.5t (~5500lb) may legally require a 60km/h (~37mph) electronic speed limiter & a commercial heavy-duty vehicle driving license
Since this is not a working car, and this version is so far away, doesn’t this qualify as just a concept? We have no idea how much of this will make it into the actual car.
@@volvo09 Same with ICE trucks as well. In load terms, every 100lbs of extra load in the bed= 1-2% lower fuel mileage. This is similar with towing as well. (Although dialed back a bit, more towards 1%), tow something that is 5000lbs and your fuel mileage is down by like 40-50%. Even worse in cold weather.
If this ever makes it to Australia (we get the regular Silverado as a low volume import) then I can see that opening mid-gate being very popular. Throw a canopy on that bad boy and you've got yourself a panel van!
@@dawsongranger4940 I want to politely remind you this is a video about an EV, and there's still not yet a lot of options for _electric vans_ in Australia. Plus like the States we're a heavily pick-up truck-focused culture. A lot of people buy utes here when they'd almost certainly be better off buying a work van or a SUV.
I pre ordered the WT base trim. Seeing that fleet customers will be receiving it first, makes me wonder when regular customers like myself might actually get one?
Given the choice between them, I think I'd take the fifth gen Prius Doug's standing next to in the C&B spot (sidebar: can you tell us when that review's coming?)
A vast majority of people using their trucks for work put a toolbox in the bed. And a vast majority of those toolboxes (the ones with a lot more usable space) pour over the top of the bed rails on either side. These are also mounted up against the front of the bed. The mid-gate feature and the avalanche-esq bed rails aren’t gonna work for this. I suppose it won’t matter much on the higher trims for the general consumer market but I imagine this will make a LOT of contractors go with the Ford Lightning over this.
I just don’t see contractors justifying buying these. Maybe very specific circumstances, but in the limited amount of work I’ve been around, I doesn’t make a lot of sense as of now
I wonder how many tax cuts power companies will get before people realize that privatized power companies won’t upgrade their grids on their own volition
One answer I've heard from a truck owner is that a large hood helps you know where the front of the truck is. That's why I've painted over the bottom portion of my sunglasses.
Doug, I love the videos! But I noticed a quirk that you missed? Being as thorough as you are I am surprised you didn’t mention the blue lines in the seatbelts as you were going over the interior and blue lines throughout the truck! Keep up the great videos, I love watching all the videos and can’t wait for more!
You know what I like about ICE equipped cars and trucks? They only take a few minutes to refuel and I can use any gas pump at any gas station. I don't have to look for special gas stations with Audi specific fuel nozzles. The EV future so many are embracing has a long way to go before it's reality.
Don't expect it to pull a trailer very far for very long. I don't care how light the load is. The EV's just cannot do what normal pickups do on a regular basis. See for yourself on Hoovies Garage here on RUclips
I tow my motorcycles with my Bolt hatchback. Consumes about 10% more than normal. Not a problem at all. Very much depends on the load and aero matters more than weight
The Hoovies Garage video got a lot of media coverage. If you want to learn how the E-150 actually fares with towing check out the Transport Evolved channel. They did a video series this year where they towed a small car on a trailer from Seattle to Denver. With knowledge and planning it is entirely feasible.
"we will cross the bridge when we get there", said the chevy guy about names without an E, forgeting that there is a ev camaro supposed to be on the way
If it doesn't have the highway range fully loaded and can be recharged as fast as an ICE vehicle can refuel it's nothing more than an expensive commuter car. It's a step backwards so why but it?
@@jamesengland7461 Modern trucks have an issue where the hood and grill are so high, it creates a Blindspot that makes it impossible to see children/smaller people not just directly front of the vehicle, but for several feet in front of it. Not really a problem on large open highways and work zones where these things are designed to function, but definitely a problem in urban and suburban environments where they are being forced to operate by people that really just want a big sedan.
@@AHungryHunky op said grille. The height of the hood has nothing to do with there being a grille at all, so that's what I didn't follow. Cars are never designed in the past to make kids easier to see, much less were pickups. At least we now have sensors and auto braking to stop hitting them. Cybertruck is the only pickup with any hope of seeing down low in front.
@@AHungryHunky Maybe kids and short people should stay out of the road. I was taught when I was a kid to stay on the sidewalk and not walk out in front of a car. Urban and suburban roads are terrible, if I lived in the city I'd have a truck because of how poor the roads and drivers are.
I like this truck I would 100% buy this before the Hummer, but I want to clarify something The new GM tailgate is awful All those moving hinges have bushings and they're wearing out crazy fast also if you live anywhere with snow it freezes up constantly.
Who cares, if no one told you the weight of these vehicles you would never know. I’ve been buying vehicles for 20 years and never have I ever asked the dealership how much does this vehicle weigh.
@@Brianz99 They won't have to if the accident KILLS them. The EV owner might have to buy their "estate" a new car.....they weigh over 9000 lbs loaded up...my gas crew cab F-150 weighs like 5600 lbs. The winner in a collision is "usually" whoever has the most weight....but, yeah...there'll be some money changing hands for sure. A compact car will be a write-off.🤔
The jury is still out on EVs, just gotta wonder how many of these will be sent to the crusher when the owners figure out how much these things cost to fix, if they can be fixed. The Hummer EVs don’t give me much confidence in GM and the ability to fix their vehicles
Toyota is developing a hydrogen combustion engine right now. It sounds and functions like a gasoline engine, but uses hydrogen as a catalyst. There's too many drawbacks to the real-world usage of EVs to consider them anything but a gimmick.
@@jasonatr0n Agreed, they are way too expensive. But I guess it doesn't matter because by the year 2030 "we will all owned nothing and be happy", so the globalist (Err.. World Economic Forum) say, No Thanks. And the environmental impact they have in rare earth materials harvesting to make the product, in my opinion is just not worth it. Give me my fossil fuels baby, or better than that, use hybrid technology like they do with the diesel locomotives that the railroads use for over 75 years. That technology for them seems to be working pretty well. But what do I know, I just see the obvious. One man's opinion cheers Dion
I would argue that the jury hasn't even been selected yet when it comes to a final evaluation of the impact of electric vehicles. Check back in twenty years.
But if landscape companies want to use these and tow equipment trailers, it may destroy the range like the f150 EV. I think the main downfall for this is the smaller bed size and not many workers would want to fold the back seats down to get a little more room
Use this vehicle in Northern climates and its toast.. literally. Put its towing load on it and use the heat. Those batteries will be drained faster than the mob sunk those with concrete shoes. Im here tp do your work but I need tp plug my tuck in first ma'am. Yeah thats gonna go over well.
@@FlyEaglesFly19111 I think range anxiety is overblown, but you do raise a very good point. The take WILL drop a lot when towing in cold weather, and these 1st gen EV truck models have limited usefulness. If your towing needs are light, use it to haul stuff in bed and family... Basically lighter use, that's where this is good. And WT models for fleets. But regular towjobs, likely looking at closer to 2030 when there will be more suitable trucks. My imagination working: Solid-state batteries or dual-chemistry batteries to store a lot more energy more safely, lighter frames, better use of available space, smaller, more powerful motors. We will see if battery production supply catches up by then
@@FlyEaglesFly19111 There are tons of electric cars in Quebec and Norway. Lots of contractors never tow anything. If your ICE car sits for several days in the cold you may need to plug in the block heater for an hour or three and also give the 12v lead acid battery a trickle charge. Plugging in a car for people in cold climates is nothing new. And what contractor does not plug in their tools when they get to jobsite ?
I can't believe how common it's becoming to see a vehicle approach *or* pass the $100k price tag..
When I was a kid I thought a base model car was expensive when they first crossed that $10k point. It's absurd that the kneecapped "affordable" model is almost $50k. Unbelievable.
Seriously. Almost every car is like 70,80,90,100k....
I recall early on into the proliferation of EVs one of the talking points was "EVs are overall less complex than gas cars, so they'll be cheaper to build and maintain". Wonder what happened to that sentiment.
@@RatBürgerSk8 I think that might be true but unfortunately it allows them to make an even bigger profit if they price it really high. Plus at this point EVs are more of a trend with customers so they're gonna use that as a reason to raise the price on these
Yeah shits whack man.. 120-130k for Escalades? They used to be a 40k suv..
same with bmws, base bmws used to be like 32-33k max now you cantget one under 45k.
With the way it looks, it would've been more fitting for Chevy to call it the Avalanche.
That name should have made a comeback.
Yeah, that's an Avalanche, not a Silverado.
I can see a lot of them frigging high school numbskull jocks driving this
Yeah I agree, honestly don't understand their naming decisions sometimes
The EValanche?
It would of been more fitting for Chevy to call it the Avalanche EV
Why is this not the top comment
bro you jus copied someone comment
You know what’s pretty sad is how hard GM pushed to keep EV from happening. I mean, actively being scummy pieces of shit to squelch innovation. Now that it’s where the market is heading, they are all about how great and innovative they are.
@@aa134368 you're so virtuous and good I aspire to be an EV stan like you
While I agree that the Silverado EV does seem more like an Avalanche than a Silverado, why would Chevy want to name their new halo truck after a Chevy model which had a negative reputation and a poor sales history?
1 quirk would be that i would be surprised if i were ever to be able to afford a new car again?
Interesting how manufacturers refuse to let journalists talk about tow range, and everyone seems to be ok with that.
The lack of comments are suspicious, but then again I've only towed one (relatively lightweight) thing in a 5 year span. The benefits of electric trucks outweigh the inconvenience of less towing range in my opinion.
Seeing reviews of the lightning and rivian, ev trucks seem to only retain 30% of their original range when towing. Towing is a big deal for those regularly hauling campers, trailers, equipment, etc… then when winter hits, the range suffers even more.
@@zelikgil9254 I worry about longevity too, if batteries only last 70k miles them we done
@@nativeoutdoors1780 Batteries don't stop working at 70k miles unless there's something wrong. In the USA, by law, batteries have to be warrantied for eight years, 100k miles.
@@scott8919 I know someone that had to bye a Battery for a car - $10,000 dollars. And these are gonna be in the $12,000 - $15,000 range. Those that don't have the money will have to either make a loan or park it.
This looks like if the Santa Cruz and a Chevy truck had a kid and they were first cousins
Nah it looks like the return of the avalanche
Its the E-Valanche
@@joedesalvo3316 you came up with a better name than the entire gm marketing team, without even getting paid.
Need your eyes checked
@@joedesalvo3316 that’s actually a very clever name!!!
I doubt we'll ever see the WT model under $50k.
Ford has started to crack down on dealerships going way above MSRP... hopefully GM does the same?
GM has grown accustomed to losing money on everything they build. If it gets to be too much, they'll just go to Uncle Sam for another bailout.
I agree. 55-60k is my guess
FACTS
most Chevy stealerships will raise sales Price to $10,000 over MSRP .
The foldable mid-gate is def only going to be available on the top 2 trims (where it will be used the least)
The bulk of the truck buying market rarely, if ever, use their trucks to carry anything.
The extra bed will be totally used… no rack needed for many new items-
The Lightning launched a year ago had a base pay of $40k which quickly jumped to $55k in less than a year. I guarantee the Silverado EV won't be $41k when it finally hits the road , but at least in the mid $50's.
Have you looked at auto trader or car gurus good luck finding one under 92000
Where I live they sell for 90k. Dealers are going to kill the Lightning pick up, and prolly the future of the model E vehicles.
One of the reasons Ford raised prices is because the dealers were all making 10* as much profit on each lightning as the manufacturer. They wanted some of that cake.
Hopefully this time next year the recession has hit and dealers are begging people to buy new vehicles.
Good 'ole American capitalist greed...
Should have called it the Avalanche, because thats exactly what I thought when I saw the thumbnail. Looks like a new gen of the avalanche than a silverado. Even has the same bed features
There’s a GMC Sierra EV variant coming out as well, looks the same as the Chevy Silverado EV, both look like the Chevy Avalanche! Typical GM copy paste! 🤷🏻♂️
@@lusoamericanpatriot1984 GMC has been rebadged trims of Chevy for decades, get over it.
Ford used the full size F-150 and made it electric by adding a battery between the frame rails and adding IRS, GM just decided to try to pretend their $100,000 status symbol is a full size pickup.
@@jldude84 So? Your point is...?
@@concinnus Get over it lol, not after GM & the CEO, got bailed out by the American taxpayer, taxpayers like myself, GM has always been union auto worker overpriced junk!
And the $107k variant will be built to the same price point as the $41k variant. A WT model with some take off wheels will look 95% of the top of the line model.
Steelies on a 40k vehicle is literally pathetic
As is typical of American manufacturers.
@@sabersz had to cut costs somewhere for the 40k variant, range probably taking a hit too but for an electric full-size truck it’s starting at a solid price
@@jldude84 let's not forget Lamborghini are VW parts bin cars as well. Seems all the manufacturers just try to cheap out on the assembly process as much as possible.
You'll need to update the front grill also
I hope there’s a very good seal between the box and the back seat. From snow to rain, the box is going to eventually end up with a pool of water in it, imagine that flowing into the back seat.
Avalanche has this already I haven't had any water in it
Good point, seals eventually decay
@@unfiltered_reaction952yet
@atgul 13yrs old every vehicle has problems no one goes in looking for faults.
NOPE , its not even Water proof.......lol.
Just what companies want to give to their workers, a 510 hp truck!!
You can limit everything with software
Yeah that’s what I told my insurance company about my hellcat. They just laughed at me.
The supervisors and managers are probably getting the nicer ones first. Expect the standard admonishment against using company property recklessly: "You break it, you bought it."
It wasn't that long ago that the blue-collar grunts got the stripped out Work truck models with a vinyl bench seat, manual windows, no AC and no radio.
Nobody. This is a product that is designed to fail. If they wanted to make it reasonable it would be half the HP and more cost effective. GM knows this will fail and they’ll keep selling gas Silverado’s.
Given its MASSIVE weight it’ll be underpowered with 500+ hp
it'd be nice to see a regular cab, 8 foot bed ev truck that is made for work instead of suvs with a truck bed
Even a hybrid honestly! The f150 powerboost only has a 6’ bed. Cannot understand why there isn’t a hybrid superduty. It makes for the perfect work vehicle
Seriously these are made for rich people who don’t really need a truck
Nobody works anymore
I use my 2011 CRV as my work truck. With the back seats down and my $100 hitch extension I can haul up to 16 foot material without any issues.
@@davevolz6138 I know 3 dudes in my immediate circle that work with their trucks every day
I would consider the WT model as a daily driver, as I imagine it having less of the useless crap that drives up the costs.
My stick-shift, roll up your own windows '09 Colorado gets me to and from Lowes just fine thanks. I don't miss heated and cooled seats.
@@terry94131 haha!
No kidding, domestic and even toyota pickups are getting too overpriced because of that useless crap.
a daily driver as a work truck? It makes no sense. If you are a person that uses a truck for actual work, hauling, towing, going to job sites, etc... I still would never want one to have to rely on. Cold weather performance, range while towing, charge times, reliability and availability of charging network, all mean that you are going to be sacrificing a lot of time and potential range. and If you work for yourself, or use your truck to make money... they leave a lot to be desired.
@@jamespetkwitz8737 Depends on the type of work, if you don't drive long distances EV's are a good idea. Low maintenance, high performance. Even cold weather isn't a big deal now with self-heating.
Now that Amazon is switching to EV, we'll see if other companies follow. It's a no brainer if they are actually more economically viable.
Thank you General Motors for giving Doug the opportunity to review this pre production Silverado. 😎 More please!
GM stated that the work truck will NOT come with the midgate. Meaning that people who would be most likely to use it, the kind that use their truck to do more than go to the grocery store, will have to pay large sums of money for additional features they didn't want in order to get something that can haul 8 foot cargo. It hurt when you said GM has no current plans for any other versions of the Silverado EV. I understand that can change but the only thing holding me back on an electric truck is the lack of an 8 foot bed or at least something remotely close. A truck without a normal bed is just a really, REALLY heavy rolling paper weight. If I wanted four doors and a trunk I'd get a Tesla.
Idk where you got the idea that they arent selling anymore models, he literally said they would be coming out with more models soon.
@@austinback5435 he's talking about the fact that there won't be a long bed model of any kind, as doug said in the beginnning of the video
I think they meant to release this as the Chevy Avalanche EV
@DougDemuro0fake
It suits the look, but the name seems tarnished. Or they just want to latch onto their existing popular vehicle, as with the Mustang EV.
Yep, pretty much
Payload numbers are anemic in the Silverado EV. It's all due to the massive 200 kWh battery. Doesn't matter how much it can tow, when "payload capacities" will be taxed long before "towing capacities" are reached.
It is a truck for wealthy old people to go to antique fairs with and put their paintings and furniture in the bed.
Ev's suck for heavy loads.
Trucking industry didn't land on diesel by accident.
Light short distance commuters are effective but it just doesn't scale well.
@@k5guy lol! You do realize there is a video of the Tesla Semi driving 500 miles in California, without recharging, with a total weight of 82,000lbs here on RUclips?
Which should we believe, the anonymous internet "expect," or a video we can watch proving them completely wrong?
What’s an engine, trans, drive shaft,exhaust, fluids and god know what else weighs?
@@k5guy sure Jane
510 horsepower....for 10 minutes. What's the tow range? What's the capacity in cold weather? How much does it cost to charge? How much will it cost to replace the batteries? How much cobalt does the little boy in Africa have to dig up at gunpoint for each truck? Does Chevy lie about the specs as we've found out with other manufacturers? Why are you shilling for vehicles that are ridiculously priced and can't be afforded like it's normal to pay $107k for a truck? History will not be kind to the people that supported these debacles blindly with all the downfalls being obvious.
Why do the wheels look like the Human Centipede?
😂
This can't be unseen
@@conor7154 These wheels look better than the Mercedes benz b class electric drive
I can’t unsee this now.
Cannot unsee... see how long until they change the design.....
Congrats Doug on GM taking your channel seriously. Hope they keep giving access to more products.
And kickback sponsor dollars, dont forget those. Gotta pay for that non-ev GT somehow right?
@rushevents glad to see someone that's not an outright shill and gets it! Congrats for being able to think for yourself and not be told what to think like everyone else these days. Take at look at some of these pathetic comments that are either bots, payed for shills or brainwashed sheep. So many useful idiots around these days. Seeing comments such as yours gives me hope there's still non-npc free thinking humans around. God bless you and yours, stay vigilant and ever free!
Not EV products though. 🤢
@@rushevents Chevrolet is translated from Hebrew as dead Jewish.
@@планетаземлонлунансолнцен source?
Would be cool to see Doug’s list of vehicles he would personally buy new and used in every category from inexpensive to expensive. I think the series would be a big hit.
Gotta say, I'm way more excited about these Ford and GM trucks that I've been about most (if not all) hybrids and EV cars. A lot of thoughtful design appears to have gone into this machine, very cool!
0:28 YES THE PRIUS FINALLY! can’t wait to see your review of the Prius! 😁
The Prius went from an ugly grandma car to a real looker with some decent speed!
This prius will sell like hot cakes. It makes me want one personally but not until the car market cools down
@@cs5250 The car market is starting to improve.
@@joeking433 A little bit but I think it gave dealerships a taste of that power trip feeling
@@cs5250 Yeah, but there will soon come a time when they will be begging people to buy cars.
"Electric Avalanche" would've been a much cooler name than "Silverado EV", even if it does kinda sound like an energy drink flavor or something.
The "mid-gate" idea is great. The increasing popularity of shortbed trucks has been kind of annoying to me. Allowing the owner to fold down the back seats and have a larger than standard load floor is a great feature. In addition to the back window, I'd love to see the roof over the rear seats be removable as well. Then you could seat six when you want, or have a standard size bed when you want. The proportions of the truck would still be ugly, but it'd be incredibly practical.
I agree. I'm not sure why the available was discontinued, but probably not due to that feature. This version looks even more refined
Hmm where have we seen this feature before 🤔 oh wait it was the avalanche. That this truck is clearly getting it’s design cues from.
@@deansmits006 that feature on avalanches isn't all its cracked up to be, with time the tolerances become so bad that you get drafts, wind noise, moisture and leaks etc. Also lock and hinge issues.
Big surprise, having the back half of your cabin open into somthing you slam cargo unto isn't the best idea long term.
Short bed pickups have been popular for a long time. And this doesn’t seat 6. It seats 5.
Midgate is technology used in avalanche 20 years ago my stepdad had a 2003 avalanche he bought brand new and only used it a handful of times over the years
More electric cars- more lines charging> more electricity bill> more battery contaminated soil> more child labor to dig Cobalt. Way to go world
@Doug_DeMuro_9 eat my s
If it has the four wheel steering that means its only a matter of time before some hacker gives it crab walk.
Crab walk is already a feature in the Hummer and I believe in the Avalan... Silverado.
Hacker or Cracker (Crab-ker)?
And upload it as a paid mod then get sued by GM
@@CyberCrusader27 He stated specifically that it won't be available in the Silverado, but apparently will be in the GMC version. I suspect that it won't be long until somebody figures out how to swap the firmware from a GMC to a Chevy and unless there's some associated hardware that's needed, problem solved.
The only reason they are starting with trucks is so they can keep the price super high. They will fail at all regular truck duties. EV's aren't even close to ready yet, the recent cold snap made that very clear. The market wants reliable V8's
Welcome to San Angeles. Be well.
Am I the only person crossing their arms and saying to themselves "no fleet manager with a sound mind will *ever* give a 500HP pickup to an employee to drive around; their liability carrier simply won't permit it"?
$107K is the trickle down model. That's just awesome, so awesome I'd simply pass.
If the electric avalanche in the future of pickup trucks, pickup trucks have no future. That pile is steaming.
The more I look at the prices of new cars the more is likely that many people including me will never be able to afford a new one in the EV era
Just too much cars over 100k😢
There are several cars under 40k
Mate get a used truck with ice engine, a car that actually makes sense unlike this load of poo :)
The 85-95 350tbi is still gonna be the most reliable silverado ever made
@@masskhamisi4 the problem is the ignorance of the people with the money that are enabling the manufacturers and dealers to continue price gouging
@@jeremychristensen2875 They're basically golf carts. If you want something bigger and more capable you're going to pay a lot more.
Doug should have a disclaimer that says,
These are not my opinions. I am paid to promote this vehicle. He was the go to guy for reviews. He's now just a mascot.
Cars and bids incentivizes him to promote every car that comes on now that each one he shows is on his auction site.
The Avalanche was a unique truck. It was based on the Suburban, Escalade. The best part was you can camp inside and if a bear or something come at you, you can close the rear gate door and crawl inside the interior to the driver seat and take off. No need to exit the vehicle.
You can sleep comfortably and still have space for your camping gear. And with the door down you have a lengthy amount of space to haul things.
Like my honda element
Been camping with my 1st Gen Avalanche a couple times now. It is the most versatile vehicle on the road IMO! I was even curious enough to look into why Chevy ended production, and it boiled down to sales of the Avalanche were taking away from Silverado sales.. which they were prioritizing in effort to be #1 pick-up truck. Perhaps that is why they left the Avalanche name in favor of the Silverado for this new EV.
@@gingerninjer355 lol i know their smart.
@@maavuhdoe7364
Lots of people think the Avalanche was canceled because of poor sales, but they are wrong.
Yes, we camp in ours all the time
NOBODY CAN AFFORD THESE THINGS.
The base model is 42k and that is about the average new car price in the Us.
@@declassifiedoffical And it's only sold to fleet owners.
Americans can. Stop being a poor Canadian and ditch that communist country for the soon to be communist United States. If you get in soon you might be able to taste a little freedom before what's left of it is gone.
“100 miles of range in 10 minutes” means this thing takes forever to charge. Remember, EV’s charge exponentially slower the closer they get to full. I bet this takes an hour to get it to 80% or more.
You’ll be lucky if this trash 🗑️ charges in a day.
TFTL's charging experience with these EV trucks are very telling and I'd never deal with that.
I preordered a Cadillac Lyriq AWD. I would have preferred this.
But my Cadillac will be MSRP $70,000 and they're talking $100,000+ for this?
Oh boy, I seriously can't wait to pay $75,000 over MSRP for this thing! 😍😍😍
If they want to sell these to companies like landscaping, they need to offer a 2 door, long tub model.
These electric trucks are a novelty item for a wealthy suburban guy who goes to Home Depot 2x a year. Not until 2040 will an electric pickup do what a gas pickup can, and I can't imagine what they'll cost by then.
That folding mid gate should be standard on all trucks…
One of the things that have really detracted me from the EV car market has been the fact that all the controls go through menus on a screen (tesla!!!) so it's really nice to see the real climate controls and a physical volume knob in this truck. I can appreciate that.
I cancelled my Rivian order just before I was to take delivery precisely because of that. Touchscreens are a terrible replacement for physical buttons for important controls.
All these companies have grand ideas of replacing ICE vehicles with EV but they kept pricing them at 70k and up. Yeah good luck ever getting the average person to ever buy one.
The base model of this is only like 42k though.
That's the plan. You will own nothing and be happy.
@@klausschwab11 what does that have to do with the price of the car?
They don't want the average person to have a car. Simple. They do that in other countries with driver license. You can't get a license unless you have a degree, make a certain salary ect. To keep the traffic down. In America or developed countries they can't do that. So they just price this stuff insanely high. So eventually po folk can't be on the roads. Same concept as hi dollar gated communities. They don't want peasant filth. And with the world rapidly heading to overpopulation, they got to do something lol
@@malcolmn.5222forever payments.
Shouldve called it an EVlanche
How does this not have a "paid advertisement" in it.....
An awesome thing about the midgate is that you could sleep in the back of this. As an added bonus, as an electric vehicle, you could leave the ac/heat running overnight and with a tonneau cover or tent structure over the bed you could have it climate controlled (obviously far more energy efficient with cooling).
Chevrolet is translated from Hebrew as dead Jewish.
Sleep in what? And lose your battery charge and be stuck in the middle of no where?? Ridiculous over priced toys.
@TheShowtime you'd burn like 8 miles of range overnight
Folding down midgate and hauling long, heavy cargo right behind your seat is just plain suicidal.
I don't think the target audience of these trucks will be using it to haul heavy cargo
@@swegmastur614 let's hope not. But you can never be too certain.
Well that’s why they gave you 700 HP also, to make sure the driver is given all the tools they need for a horrible road death
@@swegmastur614 yep, the midgate isn't even on the work version.
Climate controls I adjust without disengaging my eyes form the road are ESSENTIAL!
I really hope the industry figures this out and reverts back to necessary hvac with dedicated analog controls.
It's time to remove HVAC controls completely. For all my recent cars I've just set it to auto and never touched it again. Don't understand the hysteria around physical buttons for HVAC.
Well, thats cool and all but what about the folks that actually use their truck for work? What about the people who need a long bed? What about the people who need a service body or flat bed? A unibody truck does not leave any room for work related upfitting in the back. How are you going to pull your 5th wheel with a 6 foot bed?- kind of like the Avalanche- the swooping back of the cab takes up too much room for the tongue to swing around. Looks like a great toy, but GM needs to get us some real work trucks. Its like a Honda Ridgeline great for grocery getting and the occasional light trip to Home Depot- not something for doing serious work.
I feel like the Chevy Avalanche/Honda Ridgeline truck beds are both perfect for the vast majority of truck owners and also evidence the vast majority of truck owners should have just bought a vehicle capable of towing and a trailer.
anything GAS operated , is Already OUTDATED .......Delete.
America love it’s truck despite at least 75% aren’t using it for work. At least half will probably use the convenience of a truck bed 5x a year but most would probably do better with a minivan
Government regulations excluded trucks from many requirements. A vehicle capable of towing an equivalent trailer that DIDN'T qualify as a truck would cost more than $10k more.
The biggest differences in regulations are emissions and fuel economy, so EVs don't need exemption.
The Ridgeline was a truck shaped body on a minivan platform.
@@skyak4493 The Ridgeline doesn't appear to be very popular. I've NEVER seen many of them on the roads in all of the time that they've been available which has to be more than 18 years now, no?
I feel like people that don't own trucks tend to cast sweeping generalizations about what's best for people that do.
Unfortunately this isn’t an EDIT V2 video
and to think, I just read yesterday that when temperatures plunge like they did in the northeast last week, all EV's lose about 50% of their range. Meaning you wouldn't wanna get stuck in a blizzard in this bad boy. you'd probably end of freezing to death.
I can confirm this is true. My model 3 gets about half of its range in weather below 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Although I do have an older version without the new efficient heat pump in newer models.
And if you lose power, you're not going anywhere because you can't charge. Better make those 100 miles count. Solar panels don't work at night or when they're covered in snow and windmills don't work when it's not windy or when they're frozen.
@@danparish1344 With a new heat pump range loss is maybe 30%, though of course below a certain temperature that wouldn't matter.
@@bwofficial1776 If you lose power, many gas stations also stop working.
With Vehicle-to-grid your EV can actually act as your own backup power supply for your house.
Just carry a diesel generator in a bed
Even though I’m ford guy, if I were to buy an electric truck. This would be it. The Silverado ev looks better than the lightning. Hopefully it will be more capable and doesn’t suffer from the same problems as the lightning.
I'm not a car guy, but after watching this channel for a few years, I make people think I am. Thanks Doug.
You are not fooling anyone, they're just being nice to you and playing along.
@@officialyasir You must love the Wizard of Oz, defensive gatekeeping is your thing huh.
"Affordable"
Although for the fleet buyers it is all about total cost of ownership, which is where electric far surpasses ICE.
@@davidmccarthy6061 Oh yes, those 20k+ replacement batteries and super long charging times are great for fleets. We have 10+ Lightings in our fleet at work and they are always down or on a flat bed.
@@davidmccarthy6061 you drinking some kool-aid over there?
@@Smokkedandslammed Why are they "down or on a flat bed"? Sounds like your work just bought them to look green without considering use cases. Also, you are not expected to replace the batteries like you do on power drills and if there is something wrong with them, they should be replaced under warranty.
@@LAndrewsChannel I'm not to sure exactly what the problem is with them, we work right across from our fleet mechanics and I'm always seeing the Lightings pulled up in front of the bays or on a flat bed lol As well as the mechanics telling us they're always down. They can't work on the power train anyways cause none of them are certified to work on electrics like that. They certainly have a warranty but should they really need to be worked on that much hahaha
As far as why we got them: the executives and managers get to drive them lmao They're not used as work trucks at all, just "fancy" people movers.
I'm crazy happy these are becoming more available but I really have trouble supporting a car company that took our 'bailout money' and built a factory in China immediately following. Especially when people are not targeted instead of corporations. Not to mention the pricing.
Shhhhh! Don't mention that part! They are electrifying the future and you just need to shut up and get on board!
I also blame the idiots that gave them bail out money.
These trucks will surely be built in the US, both to avoid the chicken tax and to get the IRA credits. As for the company, none of GM's size is sinless.
Just wait...when evs fail, they'll be getting another...
@@Jisstifer83626 Lol, EV sales are growing ~50% YoY and they sell all they can make, despite gas staying cheap. They'll keep making gas trucks for dinosaurs like you 'til 2035, don't worry.
These days almost every car is like putting a down payment on a house and that’s not including in 10 years when the battery goes and your not under warranty you’ll be paying like 1/4 worth of the car for a new one
7:09 the cracked rear window had me howling. Good ole chevy quality at work
Im pretty sure thats supposed to make it look better
I don’t see a crack
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit from 7:00 mins on you can see the back center window has a solid crack right down the center lol. my guess from someone slamming the seats back. Flexed the entire back body pannel.
Is it me or the beds of pickups nowadays are getting smaller??
The "family truck" segment is a large portion of the truck market.
When I was looking for a truck the 4 door trucks were the most in demand. I wanted the shorter cab and they were a lot less popular. Standard cabs with no rear seats are even less popular.
$107k. The auto industry has lost their minds.
At least the government isn't mandating us into EVs until 2035. I'm sure they'll be cheaper by then. Things always become cheaper, right? Right?
They lost their minds when they started producing this ev shit
Thank you for being the first to review it, but would much rather wait & have you show all the functionality & driving
Actually the Hummer only has 1000hp at launch mode time. The rest of the time it’s hp numbers are very similar to this Chevy RST. Also with the Hummer to get into that launch mode it’s quite a stupid and long process that takes about 30 seconds to initiate. By that time whoever you’re racing is already past the finish line.
Why the hell would you need to race with anybody on a pickup truck, where to do this and how it complies with regulations?
prob not for racing, just casual funsies
I mean the hell would you wana race someone on the street or highway with a 10,000 pound bullet. Takes only one thing to go wrong to ruin someone's day permanently
@@mortiarty7842 Meanwhile in my country, vehicles with unladen weight exceeding 2.5t (~5500lb) may legally require a 60km/h (~37mph) electronic speed limiter & a commercial heavy-duty vehicle driving license
That midgate with a toneu cover would be pretty nifty
I was thinking of something similar, a bedcap. Open that midgate.... Would be a lot of camping space!
@@deansmits006 - Ooooh even better. So much room for activities!
Can't wait to take this to MOAB, miles and miles away from the closes charging station.
Did you mean Moab, UT or MOAB (the Mother of all Bombs)?
Since this is not a working car, and this version is so far away, doesn’t this qualify as just a concept? We have no idea how much of this will make it into the actual car.
I never owned a full size truck or paid that much for a vehicle but I want one! The utility of this is incredible!
Yeah it’ll take you to Starbucks on a full charge! Lol you soy boys are hilarious, this pos can’t do real truck stuff.
That's great 😊
Utility of what? Hauling your groceries home then recharging for the next 8 hours?
Well alrighty then…😂 I think I’d rather the Hummer version of this platform
I got it for free on cod
@@guled6169wow really omg 😱
Stupid car tho
@@stupidvideos1449 umm sir MR Stupidvideos it’s not a car
@@emorytate98 lmao good point
I don't think I heard Doug say one critical thing about this truck. He stuck pretty well to the talking points Chevrolet gave him
lol
Lots of comments attacking the towing abilities. I want to buy one of these to tow an RV trailer, but the trailer will be covered in solar panels.
Don't care about anything but the battery usage when towing will be deciding factor. How much can it tow?
It'll be the same as every other EV, the bigger you tow, the heavier you tow, the worse the mileage hit. There is no magic cure to towing range.
@@volvo09 Same with ICE trucks as well. In load terms, every 100lbs of extra load in the bed= 1-2% lower fuel mileage. This is similar with towing as well. (Although dialed back a bit, more towards 1%), tow something that is 5000lbs and your fuel mileage is down by like 40-50%. Even worse in cold weather.
Since it's an ev, you can tow for about half an hour, then wait for 10 hours for it to recharge
it looks super brutal and futuristic all in one 👍🏻🤘🏻
If this ever makes it to Australia (we get the regular Silverado as a low volume import) then I can see that opening mid-gate being very popular. Throw a canopy on that bad boy and you've got yourself a panel van!
Like an old Holden Sandman
We call those "toppers" or "truck caps" in the states.
Or just buy a panel van…
@@dawsongranger4940 I want to politely remind you this is a video about an EV, and there's still not yet a lot of options for _electric vans_ in Australia. Plus like the States we're a heavily pick-up truck-focused culture. A lot of people buy utes here when they'd almost certainly be better off buying a work van or a SUV.
I pre ordered the WT base trim. Seeing that fleet customers will be receiving it first, makes me wonder when regular customers like myself might actually get one?
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Wow 107k for a 2006-2008 1st gen Honda Ridgeline. Who wouldn't jump on that deal.
Given the choice between them, I think I'd take the fifth gen Prius Doug's standing next to in the C&B spot (sidebar: can you tell us when that review's coming?)
Love the extension cord hanging out the back.....sets the tone for EV....
I love how they have it plugged in to 110v.
A vast majority of people using their trucks for work put a toolbox in the bed. And a vast majority of those toolboxes (the ones with a lot more usable space) pour over the top of the bed rails on either side. These are also mounted up against the front of the bed. The mid-gate feature and the avalanche-esq bed rails aren’t gonna work for this. I suppose it won’t matter much on the higher trims for the general consumer market but I imagine this will make a LOT of contractors go with the Ford Lightning over this.
But do they really need that when they have a frunk?
I just don’t see contractors justifying buying these. Maybe very specific circumstances, but in the limited amount of work I’ve been around, I doesn’t make a lot of sense as of now
It’s hideous but that seems to be the point of a lot of “future” vehicles. I’m sure it’ll be a fine package being based on that Hummer EV.
I agree. It's hulking, and has Chevy's angular, kind of childish design. The wheels, the face.. yikes.
I can't wait to see if they make the Suburban EV based of this.
Doug: "GM hasn't yet run into an EV without an E in the name"
Lyriq: Cries in the corner.
Bolt: Breaks down.... in tears.
The charging infrastructure is still incredibly lacking in most states. You’ll need all the range they can offer.
I wonder how many tax cuts power companies will get before people realize that privatized power companies won’t upgrade their grids on their own volition
@@Fhwgads11 this mf comment right here! And the only way they'll move to fix what they already should've been working on is with "incentives".
Why do they have to make the front grill so big?
Edit: Guys I meant hood height.
To compensate for the insecurity of pick-up drivers.
So that the driver doesn't have to see the kids they're running over.
To make it more rugged and powerful
Brand and purchaser insecurity
One answer I've heard from a truck owner is that a large hood helps you know where the front of the truck is. That's why I've painted over the bottom portion of my sunglasses.
Doug, I love the videos! But I noticed a quirk that you missed? Being as thorough as you are I am surprised you didn’t mention the blue lines in the seatbelts as you were going over the interior and blue lines throughout the truck! Keep up the great videos, I love watching all the videos and can’t wait for more!
Wake me up when it can tow 10k pounds and go over 400 miles on a single charge.
You know what I like about ICE equipped cars and trucks? They only take a few minutes to refuel and I can use any gas pump at any gas station. I don't have to look for special gas stations with Audi specific fuel nozzles. The EV future so many are embracing has a long way to go before it's reality.
Don't expect it to pull a trailer very far for very long. I don't care how light the load is. The EV's just cannot do what normal pickups do on a regular basis. See for yourself on Hoovies Garage here on RUclips
I tow my motorcycles with my Bolt hatchback. Consumes about 10% more than normal. Not a problem at all. Very much depends on the load and aero matters more than weight
One giant government stimulus for the manufacturers. Pretty telling why they are pushing EV's so hard
@@jasonatr0n The government is the biggest mafia. All money comes with strings attached.
The Hoovies Garage video got a lot of media coverage. If you want to learn how the E-150 actually fares with towing check out the Transport Evolved channel. They did a video series this year where they towed a small car on a trailer from Seattle to Denver. With knowledge and planning it is entirely feasible.
"we will cross the bridge when we get there", said the chevy guy about names without an E, forgeting that there is a ev camaro supposed to be on the way
They're finally going to call it Camero 😆. Now everyone can be correct
Camaro EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
all electric Chevy Bolt circa 2017. no "E" other than in the name of the manufacturer for those not paying attention.
If it doesn't have the highway range fully loaded and can be recharged as fast as an ICE vehicle can refuel it's nothing more than an expensive commuter car. It's a step backwards so why but it?
Proper killing machine with that grille. Silent one at that.
killing machine?
@jamesengland7461 that means the truck is good at killing things
@@jamesengland7461 Modern trucks have an issue where the hood and grill are so high, it creates a Blindspot that makes it impossible to see children/smaller people not just directly front of the vehicle, but for several feet in front of it. Not really a problem on large open highways and work zones where these things are designed to function, but definitely a problem in urban and suburban environments where they are being forced to operate by people that really just want a big sedan.
@@AHungryHunky op said grille. The height of the hood has nothing to do with there being a grille at all, so that's what I didn't follow. Cars are never designed in the past to make kids easier to see, much less were pickups. At least we now have sensors and auto braking to stop hitting them. Cybertruck is the only pickup with any hope of seeing down low in front.
@@AHungryHunky Maybe kids and short people should stay out of the road. I was taught when I was a kid to stay on the sidewalk and not walk out in front of a car. Urban and suburban roads are terrible, if I lived in the city I'd have a truck because of how poor the roads and drivers are.
Doug Demuro, a guy manages to take you on a thorough tour of a car which you never acutaly see entirely in a video
I like this truck I would 100% buy this before the Hummer, but I want to clarify something The new GM tailgate is awful All those moving hinges have bushings and they're wearing out crazy fast also if you live anywhere with snow it freezes up constantly.
Was gonna say the tail gate is for looks, not work.
The reverse lights are the “E” logo too. Just noticed
Only weighs like half a planet!
It weighs enough to offset the moons orbital path.
@@MANTHELEXUS It weighs enough to stop a compact car's path COMPLETELY if it gets in the way of one.🤫
@@MANTHELEXUS which would make it an actual planet and not a fake planet like Pluto right!?!
Who cares, if no one told you the weight of these vehicles you would never know. I’ve been buying vehicles for 20 years and never have I ever asked the dealership how much does this vehicle weigh.
@@Brianz99 They won't have to if the accident KILLS them. The EV owner might have to buy their "estate" a new car.....they weigh over 9000 lbs loaded up...my gas crew cab F-150 weighs like 5600 lbs.
The winner in a collision is "usually" whoever has the most weight....but, yeah...there'll be some money changing hands for sure.
A compact car will be a write-off.🤔
The jury is still out on EVs, just gotta wonder how many of these will be sent to the crusher when the owners figure out how much these things cost to fix, if they can be fixed. The Hummer EVs don’t give me much confidence in GM and the ability to fix their vehicles
Ford already is making the maverick a hybrid, toyota isn't going all in on EV, charging infrastructure isn't here, EV's are still wayyyy to expensive.
Toyota is developing a hydrogen combustion engine right now. It sounds and functions like a gasoline engine, but uses hydrogen as a catalyst. There's too many drawbacks to the real-world usage of EVs to consider them anything but a gimmick.
@@jasonatr0n Agreed, they are way too expensive. But I guess it doesn't matter because by the year 2030 "we will all owned nothing and be happy", so the globalist (Err.. World Economic Forum) say, No Thanks. And the environmental impact they have in rare earth materials harvesting to make the product, in my opinion is just not worth it. Give me my fossil fuels baby, or better than that, use hybrid technology like they do with the diesel locomotives that the railroads use for over 75 years. That technology for them seems to be working pretty well. But what do I know, I just see the obvious. One man's opinion cheers Dion
I would argue that the jury hasn't even been selected yet when it comes to a final evaluation of the impact of electric vehicles. Check back in twenty years.
@@avsystem3142 excellent point, go to the head of the class
What was the white GT that Doug was standing behind during his cars and bids advertisement?
Most contractors i know hate driving more than a hour to a jobsite. So range for a lot of work trucks is not deal killer.
But if landscape companies want to use these and tow equipment trailers, it may destroy the range like the f150 EV. I think the main downfall for this is the smaller bed size and not many workers would want to fold the back seats down to get a little more room
Use this vehicle in Northern climates and its toast.. literally. Put its towing load on it and use the heat. Those batteries will be drained faster than the mob sunk those with concrete shoes. Im here tp do your work but I need tp plug my tuck in first ma'am. Yeah thats gonna go over well.
@@FlyEaglesFly19111 I think range anxiety is overblown, but you do raise a very good point. The take WILL drop a lot when towing in cold weather, and these 1st gen EV truck models have limited usefulness. If your towing needs are light, use it to haul stuff in bed and family... Basically lighter use, that's where this is good. And WT models for fleets. But regular towjobs, likely looking at closer to 2030 when there will be more suitable trucks. My imagination working: Solid-state batteries or dual-chemistry batteries to store a lot more energy more safely, lighter frames, better use of available space, smaller, more powerful motors. We will see if battery production supply catches up by then
@@deansmits006 So when it's low on charge and the range anxiety kicks in...your advice to them is that it's overblown. Oh ok.
@@FlyEaglesFly19111 There are tons of electric cars in Quebec and Norway. Lots of contractors never tow anything. If your ICE car sits for several days in the cold you may need to plug in the block heater for an hour or three and also give the 12v lead acid battery a trickle charge. Plugging in a car for people in cold climates is nothing new. And what contractor does not plug in their tools when they get to jobsite ?