I tried this at the range last week and IT Works. I increased my speed and accuracy. Square public range at 3+ yards. Thanks Travis for another productive drill session!
so much negative comments... not sure why though. I totally agree with Travis here. In order to go fast at the end, you need start slow and steadily make progression and correct things during progression. Like you can't compete in F1 when you were just a normal driver with a civic yesterday, this principal applies to any sports (shooting itself is actually a sport as well). Travis also point out neural pathway which is fancy word but actually i do believe it makes a lot of sense. Basically, you brain should already know what will happen before you do anything so that you can do it consistently without much thinking. Like when you drive from A to B, it would be way faster if there is already a well built road rather than just cross forests and mountains.
I think a lot of people are skeptical to this method of training every time an instructor uses fancy science buzz words to try and prove a point. Most people would agree that in order to be fast, you have to train at the speed in which you want to go, not the opposite by slowing down. The whole kinesthetic alignment also seems like utter garbage when used in a practical setting whether that be in a real life scenario, competition, etc. No doubt this method of training can improve someone's skill, but I don't think its because of science or kinetics or whatever the hell big word they use. Having an "internal clock" is also bunch of nonsense. Just shoot and learn how to hit what you're looking at very fast. It shouldn't have to take a science major to do this in my opinion
@@Assclapper69_ buzz word is not a problem as long as it works. "Most people would agree that in order to be fast, you have to train at the speed in which you want to go." This is absolutely wrong and even not possible. In every sports or even professional work, people make baby steps to reach their final goal. How could anyone ask a newbie to start training at 15 yard at 0.2 splits and hit all a zone if that is their end goal? It is not possible. The training should start at the level where just outside trainee's comfort zone. TBH, shooting training mythology is way behind other sports training where high tech/scientific approach is leveraged to help people reach their maximum potential.
@@stevenchen3923 take a Ben Stoeger class. You have to train at the speed in which you want to go and figure out what you need to do to achieve that same level of accuracy. Not going in slow motion counting out loud. Ben has a much better way of explaining it than me. He has a bunch of videos on RUclips and Instagram you can watch. It is definitely possible. I’m not gonna get good at driving 200mph if I practice driving 60mph
@@Assclapper69_ i saw ben's video and learned a ton. I think u are misunderstanding me here. Using your example here. If u already drive 190 MPH, u should train at 200 MPH. But for other people driving at 60MPH, They should train at 70MPH, NOT 200MPH even that's their end goal.
if its safe and reliably accurate, then its effective. however, can we please talk about how that .63 shot broke well before the end of his draw stroke and way before there was any way he had a sight picture? like I said, point shooting is a thing and is useful, but can we say that part outloud? Because I feel as though nobody does and most people are training to get an effective sight picture on sub .8 draws and it's not possible. Love all of your content and products, I just think that part is worth saying out loud for the people training.
TLDR: Increase your speed after each couple of good reps. Use fancy words. Grab shirt early for maximum readiness. Shoot 3yd away but it’s actually 2yd. Don’t do in dry fire.
The negative comments crack me up. This is solid advice. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. The speed will develop all by itself and you won't even notice it.
I've heard of this drill but not done it. Seems like the negative comments here are from people who don't seem to get the idea of it, what it's developing.
i think everyone is missing the point here, travis isnt trying to train or speak to the advanced gun culture. we aready know. this isnt for ben stoeger or seasoned shooters. i get it, slow repititions are slow, fast repititions are fast. this is clearly for new students or people who just purchased their first firearm. safe learning is key. this drill helps new students feel and understand indexing, drawing, grabbing and hooking the shirt, pointing in a slow safe methodical rhythm. c'mon people, cant expect to teach new shooters to go hard 100% their first time learning. this drill is exceptional for them, and is safe and effective. lots of new shooters never dont even know inside waistband is a thing. if an instructor can educate students in a slow & safe methodical manner to learn and improve, its win-win
I dont care about guessimg my time.... BUT, I love this drill when working with new shooters. It allows them time to work om their mechanics/movements. 2-3 yards is way too close for me though. 10-15yrds is where I always run it. I use it myself from 25yrds at the end of session and fire 3 strings starting from 4sec down to 1sec
You’re missing a lot here, at the one second time mark I see a lot of shoulder tension aka you’re being to stiff this isn’t good for transitioning targets or follow up shots. you’re throwing your shirt down with tour support hand which is wasted movement and your starting out by grabbing your shirt before the buzzard, tacitly I’d say that’s not a good thing to practice because you’re likely to be surprised rather than ready for a threat. Also, I realize you’re at 3 yards but it looks like you’re point shooting and I don’t teach that, I teach finding the dot. You said it yourself Haley, you’re going to fall back to your lowest level of training when the crap hits the fan. Otherwise I like this drill for dry fire I actually do something similar. I practice ten draws no timer, my focus isn’t on time but making sure I’m getting a solid grip, trigger press (not pressed but prepped) and finding the dot while not focusing on the dot. Then ill do another 5 draws and for each set of 5 I’ll decrease my time. My goal is 1.2 seconds at 7-10 yards live fire. If I only push for speed on a single shot you’ll likely sacrifice your support hand grip which will result in worse accuracy and slower follow up shots.
Dude said he was gonna take class from Ben Stoeger in a live a while back, he desperately needs it to get up to speed with current shooting and how to teach it…
So you think a former MARSOC Marine with multiple deployments and real world gunfighting experience needs to "get up to speed"?....lol.....If I want to punch paper only then Ben is probably a good choice. However, if you want to improve both your skills and your mindset to stay alive on the streets when the SHTF, then I'll take Travis.
Because you can dry fire sub 1 second draws all day long, but it doesn't confirm your accuracy or improve your follow through to reacquire the sights/dot after recoil.
This might be interesting but the former sucks!! Lol I get it, but it doesn’t covey good through this style video 🤷♂️ thanks anyway!! Despite everybody saying you and THIS sucks haha 😂 still not sure why.
Have you tried this? Do you understand the concept behind it? It makes perfect sense...no one is CONSISTENTLY running 1-shot from concealment in 1.5 seconds when they first start out unless their fundamentals are solid. You take progressions just like how you would working out. You don't have to always work from the 5-second mark. Start at 2 seconds if you're comfortable, and then bring it down to 1 second.
@@Jason1087870I look at it like a basketball player in warmup. They aren't moving at full speed. Or a batter that just gets up to the plate and does the slow half swing or whatever. It's just practicing fundamentals before going at it full speed.
@@briang7826 that's a good way to look at it too. I'm always looking for analogies to apply to training to help others understand some of the pistol concepts.
I tried this at the range last week and IT Works. I increased my speed and accuracy. Square public range at 3+ yards. Thanks Travis for another productive drill session!
so much negative comments... not sure why though. I totally agree with Travis here. In order to go fast at the end, you need start slow and steadily make progression and correct things during progression. Like you can't compete in F1 when you were just a normal driver with a civic yesterday, this principal applies to any sports (shooting itself is actually a sport as well).
Travis also point out neural pathway which is fancy word but actually i do believe it makes a lot of sense. Basically, you brain should already know what will happen before you do anything so that you can do it consistently without much thinking. Like when you drive from A to B, it would be way faster if there is already a well built road rather than just cross forests and mountains.
I think a lot of people are skeptical to this method of training every time an instructor uses fancy science buzz words to try and prove a point. Most people would agree that in order to be fast, you have to train at the speed in which you want to go, not the opposite by slowing down. The whole kinesthetic alignment also seems like utter garbage when used in a practical setting whether that be in a real life scenario, competition, etc. No doubt this method of training can improve someone's skill, but I don't think its because of science or kinetics or whatever the hell big word they use. Having an "internal clock" is also bunch of nonsense. Just shoot and learn how to hit what you're looking at very fast. It shouldn't have to take a science major to do this in my opinion
@@Assclapper69_
buzz word is not a problem as long as it works.
"Most people would agree that in order to be fast, you have to train at the speed in which you want to go." This is absolutely wrong and even not possible. In every sports or even professional work, people make baby steps to reach their final goal. How could anyone ask a newbie to start training at 15 yard at 0.2 splits and hit all a zone if that is their end goal?
It is not possible. The training should start at the level where just outside trainee's comfort zone.
TBH, shooting training mythology is way behind other sports training where high tech/scientific approach is leveraged to help people reach their maximum potential.
@@stevenchen3923 take a Ben Stoeger class. You have to train at the speed in which you want to go and figure out what you need to do to achieve that same level of accuracy. Not going in slow motion counting out loud. Ben has a much better way of explaining it than me. He has a bunch of videos on RUclips and Instagram you can watch. It is definitely possible. I’m not gonna get good at driving 200mph if I practice driving 60mph
@@Assclapper69_ i saw ben's video and learned a ton. I think u are misunderstanding me here. Using your example here.
If u already drive 190 MPH, u should train at 200 MPH.
But for other people driving at 60MPH, They should train at 70MPH, NOT 200MPH even that's their end goal.
Excellent and high-quality holster
if its safe and reliably accurate, then its effective. however, can we please talk about how that .63 shot broke well before the end of his draw stroke and way before there was any way he had a sight picture? like I said, point shooting is a thing and is useful, but can we say that part outloud? Because I feel as though nobody does and most people are training to get an effective sight picture on sub .8 draws and it's not possible. Love all of your content and products, I just think that part is worth saying out loud for the people training.
Are you acquiring the dot this close or are you sighting through the window at the target?
Very useful and effective drill.
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Great video and I like the drill, definitely need to try it out. Which optic is Travis using in this video?
Excellent drill!
There is good information here despite what the naysayers will inevitably say.
TLDR: Increase your speed after each couple of good reps. Use fancy words. Grab shirt early for maximum readiness. Shoot 3yd away but it’s actually 2yd. Don’t do in dry fire.
Peak performance right here.
The negative comments crack me up. This is solid advice. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. The speed will develop all by itself and you won't even notice it.
Good information, Thank You 👍
Anyone know what optic he is running here?
Eotech.
I've heard of this drill but not done it. Seems like the negative comments here are from people who don't seem to get the idea of it, what it's developing.
If you haven’t trained with HST, you’re missing out on efficient and effective concepts in weapons handling
i think everyone is missing the point here, travis isnt trying to train or speak to the advanced gun culture. we aready know. this isnt for ben stoeger or seasoned shooters. i get it, slow repititions are slow, fast repititions are fast. this is clearly for new students or people who just purchased their first firearm. safe learning is key. this drill helps new students feel and understand indexing, drawing, grabbing and hooking the shirt, pointing in a slow safe methodical rhythm. c'mon people, cant expect to teach new shooters to go hard 100% their first time learning. this drill is exceptional for them, and is safe and effective. lots of new shooters never dont even know inside waistband is a thing. if an instructor can educate students in a slow & safe methodical manner to learn and improve, its win-win
I dont care about guessimg my time.... BUT,
I love this drill when working with new shooters. It allows them time to work om their mechanics/movements.
2-3 yards is way too close for me though. 10-15yrds is where I always run it.
I use it myself from 25yrds at the end of session and fire 3 strings starting from 4sec down to 1sec
I should be good at this I been really slow for years 😂
Neural pathways cant connect doing this fast... 😂
I guess watching this at 1.5x speed wasn't a good idea. 😊
You’re missing a lot here, at the one second time mark I see a lot of shoulder tension aka you’re being to stiff this isn’t good for transitioning targets or follow up shots. you’re throwing your shirt down with tour support hand which is wasted movement and your starting out by grabbing your shirt before the buzzard, tacitly I’d say that’s not a good thing to practice because you’re likely to be surprised rather than ready for a threat. Also, I realize you’re at 3 yards but it looks like you’re point shooting and I don’t teach that, I teach finding the dot. You said it yourself Haley, you’re going to fall back to your lowest level of training when the crap hits the fan. Otherwise I like this drill for dry fire I actually do something similar. I practice ten draws no timer, my focus isn’t on time but making sure I’m getting a solid grip, trigger press (not pressed but prepped) and finding the dot while not focusing on the dot. Then ill do another 5 draws and for each set of 5 I’ll decrease my time. My goal is 1.2 seconds at 7-10 yards live fire. If I only push for speed on a single shot you’ll likely sacrifice your support hand grip which will result in worse accuracy and slower follow up shots.
Dude said he was gonna take class from Ben Stoeger in a live a while back, he desperately needs it to get up to speed with current shooting and how to teach it…
So you think a former MARSOC Marine with multiple deployments and real world gunfighting experience needs to "get up to speed"?....lol.....If I want to punch paper only then Ben is probably a good choice. However, if you want to improve both your skills and your mindset to stay alive on the streets when the SHTF, then I'll take Travis.
Why not just dryfire your draws and don't waste live ammo, like every other normal person does? But what do I know I'm just a carry optics grandmaster
Because you can dry fire sub 1 second draws all day long, but it doesn't confirm your accuracy or improve your follow through to reacquire the sights/dot after recoil.
@@carbonking53 dude, I dryfired my way to GM in carry optics. Dryfire IS THE WAY to get better. Live fire only confirms what you're doing dry.
I am biased toward liking Travis, but this seems like a giant waste of time.
Disagree strongly
This might be interesting but the former sucks!! Lol I get it, but it doesn’t covey good through this style video 🤷♂️ thanks anyway!! Despite everybody saying you and THIS sucks haha 😂 still not sure why.
I was going to take this class but I don’t own a cry precision camo pants and don’t have tats. I’m not tacticool.
You sound like one of the kids in highschool that couldn't get laid
There are a lot of couch ninjas in this comment section that feel they know more...cod is not real life posers.
Bro...this guy is huffing his own farts. This makes no sense to even be doing...
😂😂😂
Safariland is deleting comments 😂😂😂😂
Why?
This was the biggest waste of 16 and half minutes of my life 😂 this is completely unproductive and inefficient.
That's at least 10 minutes longer than you lasted in element school 🤭congratulations!!!🤣
Have you tried this? Do you understand the concept behind it? It makes perfect sense...no one is CONSISTENTLY running 1-shot from concealment in 1.5 seconds when they first start out unless their fundamentals are solid. You take progressions just like how you would working out. You don't have to always work from the 5-second mark. Start at 2 seconds if you're comfortable, and then bring it down to 1 second.
@@Jason1087870I look at it like a basketball player in warmup. They aren't moving at full speed. Or a batter that just gets up to the plate and does the slow half swing or whatever. It's just practicing fundamentals before going at it full speed.
@@briang7826 that's a good way to look at it too. I'm always looking for analogies to apply to training to help others understand some of the pistol concepts.