I thought you guys were going to have to build a whole new saw cabinet because of it! Very impressive though. In the Saw Stop clip you added, it looks like the commercial version uses a firework to engage the stopper ha ha!
As you said - worked a lot better than I was expecting. As much as I love StopSaw, this is one of those things where the patent can’t run out fast enough! Having had friends with horrible injuries from tables saws, this will be a great thing to become industry standard. In case you’re curious, they do trigger if wood is wet or sappy. So they also have some work to do before it is flawless, but of course erring on the side of safety is better than the wood. Lastly, you need to watch Everything Everywhere All At Once - some sausage mayhem you needed to reference in V2.0. Good luck.
The look on Colin's face said it all! The man who deliberately blows himself up with truckloads of fireworks was a bit nervous about how that clutch would grab the blade without the CF pulling everything to pieces - congratulations! A nice project, Ruth, and a proof of concept if nothing else. Will you revisit the project in future? I'd be interested to see a mk2.
That was amazing! So pleased the clutch worked out. Thank the Lord for sausage fingers. Also you enjoyed taping the sausage to the hand way too much haha 😂🤩
I just love how your mind works! Remember pass or fail, there's no such thing as a bad idea. Ideas spark innovation and your head is full of it Ruth. Keep them coming we love you!!!
I watched an 18yr old kid, on the job for the first day out of highschool, attempting to blow off the blades of a milling machine while running. Blades grabbed the air nozzle, pulling his hand into the high speed stack of blades, removing all fingers except half his pinky. This was the 80s when didn't have adequate protection like this.
I wasn’t sure how this was going to go, but great result! Stopped fast too!! I mostly use my table saw as a horizontal surface for putting stuff on, scary as hell!
I have probably one of the best tweeked tablesaw's ever. The BIG savings with the SawStop is in the insurance saving which pays for the sawstop over time. Your system would NOT convince your insurance agent of anything.
That worked very well. Compare that sausage to one that went through a normal saw and its a massive improvement. You've saved someone's fingers or even arm with that. What was an amputation is not not much more than a scratch. And the advantage of this over the original saw stop is this is reusable with the flick of a reset button. The other one you need to buy a née blade and mechanism.
Wow that's amazing Ruth! It's such a shame the Festool is so expensive compared to the Sawstop. And then it's such a shame they sued Bosch as the Reaxx was even better than the Sawstop. Hopefully this will all change soon as the U.S is tabling legislation to make all table saws effectively Sawstop style. The cool thing about your design is that before it stops it has the extra mass which would make it even better at cutting.
Colin was nervous? but he makes crazy stuff, he made a spinning belt of knives, took his socks off with fireworks, oh yeh, and dug under the foundations of his own house, how scary can one table saw be? - In all serious though, a great video, can't wait for the next one. :-)
Great to see the idea generation and problem solving here! I totally thought the table saw would flip itself with the momentum stopping so suddenly. I'm still not sure why they make plastic table saws.
This is some mad engineering, I like it. What about using the drop down system I though Bosch had in his machines but had too take it down because it was patent infringing on the sawstop.
A better solution would to be pull the blade away at a backward angle. No destruction of the blade. however you would also have to pull the associated motor etc..
Brilliant! This is a perfect execution of "I can totally build that". But to be totally honest, I was hoping for at least one table saw backflip 😄. I think the clutch is a better set up than the cartridge also.
Although the result is amazing, i cannot stop thinking of the amount of vibrations due to unbalancing the rotor. anyhow you gave me a brilliant idea on trying to come up with another safer system. Since i was very close to loose 2 fingers, i am also thinking of alternatives, and i believe that an electromagnetic brake system would be more efficient. Will not overload the motor, will not unbalance the blade, and could stop the blade without destroying either the blade and the motor bearings. work in progress still, a system like this could render the table saw usable for 90 Deg. cuts only though.
Not sure how you managed to get any part of that working. How on earth did you manage to isolate the blade from the chassis to perform the capacitance measure? The sheer inertia of the blade should be enough to cut a hand off after the clutch somehow disengages (in a fraction of a second). The fact that you clearly didn’t understand a lot of the dynamics at play (like trying to brake a blade by dropping a piece of steel behind the cut rather than forcing a softer metal into the cut) makes me wonder how much of this is real.
Geez, Ruth! That was the most scary dangerous thing you've had a go at so far!😱 Still not quite a 'SawStop' though but not bad at all. So impressed that you got it to work and not explode everywhere. The SawStop does chuck the bit of aluminium block against the direction of rotation of the blade and uses the remaining energy to pull the blade down into the table so not surprising it is a bit quicker. But I do like the electric clutch idea, and wonder why that isn't an industry standard. Have a lighter weight brake rotor/disc on the saw's axle and a heavy electric brake stator fixed to the table saw frame. Maybe an IR sensor covering the whole area around the blade so that it will stop, or not start, if your hands are too close for comfort? Having said all that I really should find a way to refit the crown guard to my saw while still allowing me to cut rebates and slots.🙈😂
Yeah there were a few points in the build where I did questions what I was doing 😆 the SawStop is a cool piece of kit. The electromagnetic clutch worked so so well! This project has definitely made me more wary around table saws (I think that may have been all the googling of table saw injuries)
@@Ruth_Amos Maybe worth a crowd fund or sponsorship deal to fund a SawStop. As much as I love my 40+ year old Wadkin AGS10 I wouldn't say no to a SawStop. I have seen enough workshop injuries in my time, mostly as a child, to be super cautious and careful about it.
This is awesome, but I do agree that table saws scare me so much. About 8 years ago, I bought one, turned it on and promptly sold it again because I was utterly terrified. I was wondering if you could build an anti-kickback mechanism? It feels like you're one sensor away from being able to incorporate that into your design. At the risk of applying hardcore engineering principles to something you built in a shed, how fail safe is this? When you were building your first prototype, it looked like you needed to apply power to stop the saw; whereas maybe it would be better to have to remove power to stop the saw? Also, is an Arduino the right base for safety critical applications? Sorry to sound negative, again, I appreciate that this was a prototype built in a shed; but I have experience of engineering in safety critical applications so old habits die hard!
Hey Charlotte, I wasn’t expecting it to work so well. It definitely would need some more work to make it usable full time. This was mainly just to see if it would work. To make it an everyday use thing it would need a bit more fine tuning. The good news is that when it false activates it just stops and you can just switch everything back on 👍🏼
Hi, i am thinking of makeing this or trying it, beacouse my fater about 2 months ago cut his finger to the bone and i am just wondering if it activates if it toches metal?
Wonderful project, I'm also surprised how well it worked! But as you said, modifying a piece of machinery like that makes it even more scarier... 😬 I was wondering how well an electric load brake (or whatever it's called) would work. When a sausage is detected the power to the motor is cut, and replaced with a huge load that forces the motor (now generator) to stop. Might need a ridiculous sized load to be quick, but mechanically the saw could be kept in one piece.
@@Ruth_Amos Sounds like a plan! The step from "throwing metal into a spinning blade" to magnetic clutch was a huge improvement, so ther can't be that many iterations from perfection... 😅
It's a really simple, complex idea that looks like it shouldn't work but does - seems like the perfect invention! Plus, how many times did you actually say 'sausage'? I lost count 😂
I just found your channel and really liked this video and your approach to a SAW STOP. So when is part 2 where the blade drops below the table surface? I'm sure you will figure something out and I can hardly wait to see what you come up with. New Subscriber RCW
Haha wow that's amazing and it worked so well. I completely get why you wouldn't want to pursue it further, but it seems like a viable design that could be refined into something that's actually safe. 😂 Nice work.
Can I suggest you add a “long broom handle” to your toolkit?? They’re ideal for turning shit on and keeping your distance at the same time! 😉🤣 subscribed!
I love my table saw and use it all the time - sadly I couldn’t afford a sawstop though. It still terrifies me, but i treat it with the respect it deserves.
try this clutch ver on table saw with belt ....hmm you can create something cut of belt instantly on that models too🤔..most job site ones saw balde attached directly too motor and shaft its a bit hard to fight against torque on these models...still great job Ruth that first and two idea was terrifying soooo much 😑😬😁
I'm so scared of my table saw that I spent a literal half an hour with and electric plane (still a scary piece of kit) planing down a board rather than rip cutting it on my table saw 😅
Ruth and her ideas, was very surprised with the outcome, there was so much weight in the clutch I thought it was going to shake itself to bits.
Thanks health and safety inspector ☺️ I think we were both surprised with how well it actually worked 😆
I thought you guys were going to have to build a whole new saw cabinet because of it! Very impressive though. In the Saw Stop clip you added, it looks like the commercial version uses a firework to engage the stopper ha ha!
Was not expecting a Colin cameo in this! Amazing idea, execution and brainpower to me er try using this thing again!! Subscribed!!
@@jj_uk Not around table saws, mate. :-)
As you said - worked a lot better than I was expecting. As much as I love StopSaw, this is one of those things where the patent can’t run out fast enough! Having had friends with horrible injuries from tables saws, this will be a great thing to become industry standard.
In case you’re curious, they do trigger if wood is wet or sappy. So they also have some work to do before it is flawless, but of course erring on the side of safety is better than the wood.
Lastly, you need to watch Everything Everywhere All At Once - some sausage mayhem you needed to reference in V2.0. Good luck.
Woohoo! I'm so glad you did this ahaha, watch out sawstop that patent is expiring soon :P
I’ve heard that too… 😆
The look on Colin's face said it all! The man who deliberately blows himself up with truckloads of fireworks was a bit nervous about how that clutch would grab the blade without the CF pulling everything to pieces - congratulations!
A nice project, Ruth, and a proof of concept if nothing else. Will you revisit the project in future? I'd be interested to see a mk2.
Thanks 😊 it was a definite no about a mk2 but it’s started some interesting conversations on Reddit… so maybe… after some therapy 😆😆😆
That was amazing! So pleased the clutch worked out. Thank the Lord for sausage fingers. Also you enjoyed taping the sausage to the hand way too much haha 😂🤩
Haha 😆 thank you for the clutch
Incredible 😀
Brilliant! Omg ... mates with Colin, Xyla and Daisy! Impressed and subbed!
SUPER cool. I have to think this is how the SawStop initial prototypes might have worked. Excellent work, as always. 😊
Amazing video, Ruth! 💖
Thanks Becky! ☺️
I just love how your mind works! Remember pass or fail, there's no such thing as a bad idea. Ideas spark innovation and your head is full of it Ruth. Keep them coming we love you!!!
This was very satisfying to watch 🤩
I love it when I plan comes together ☺️
Wow such a great idea. Table saw has been on the Too Dangerous section of my List of Tools I Want To Have A Go With for a long time!
I watched an 18yr old kid, on the job for the first day out of highschool, attempting to blow off the blades of a milling machine while running. Blades grabbed the air nozzle, pulling his hand into the high speed stack of blades, removing all fingers except half his pinky. This was the 80s when didn't have adequate protection like this.
I wasn’t sure how this was going to go, but great result! Stopped fast too!! I mostly use my table saw as a horizontal surface for putting stuff on, scary as hell!
2:26 I have never seen sausages that come in a can! 🤔
Omg! It’s Michael Superbacker!!
@@Ruth_Amos Omg! It’s Ruth Amos! 😀 Thanks for the reply!
Gives a whole new meaning to that phrase "scary sharp"!
Would motorcycle brake calipers not stop the blade as quickly?
Pretty amazing! Good work on your perseverance.
You are a great problem solver. I'm comfortable with my plain old table saw but people do like the saw stops for sure. Thanks for the video!
Brilliant Ruth, just sheer brilliant! It worked a lot better than I expected.
Ruth… Fantastic 👏👏👏 I’d rather have a deep cut than loose a finger or hand any day!! Your process of design is top notch 💯 ! Cheers Rob
I have to hand it to you, you actually made it work. Took some thinking, some engineering, but you actually made it work. Good for you.
I have probably one of the best tweeked tablesaw's ever.
The BIG savings with the SawStop is in the insurance saving which pays for the sawstop over time.
Your system would NOT convince your insurance agent of anything.
That worked very well. Compare that sausage to one that went through a normal saw and its a massive improvement. You've saved someone's fingers or even arm with that. What was an amputation is not not much more than a scratch. And the advantage of this over the original saw stop is this is reusable with the flick of a reset button. The other one you need to buy a née blade and mechanism.
this is absolutely mental 😂 you’re brilliant 🖤
Thank you 💙
Wow that's amazing Ruth! It's such a shame the Festool is so expensive compared to the Sawstop. And then it's such a shame they sued Bosch as the Reaxx was even better than the Sawstop. Hopefully this will all change soon as the U.S is tabling legislation to make all table saws effectively Sawstop style.
The cool thing about your design is that before it stops it has the extra mass which would make it even better at cutting.
Fell in love from first look. This is sooooo cool
Colin was nervous? but he makes crazy stuff, he made a spinning belt of knives, took his socks off with fireworks, oh yeh, and dug under the foundations of his own house, how scary can one table saw be? - In all serious though, a great video, can't wait for the next one. :-)
so funny😀...but this should come as standard on all table-saws!
Great to see the idea generation and problem solving here! I totally thought the table saw would flip itself with the momentum stopping so suddenly. I'm still not sure why they make plastic table saws.
Cheaper to ship the long distances as well as cheaper to make.
Great work!
This is some mad engineering, I like it.
What about using the drop down system I though Bosch had in his machines but had too take it down because it was patent infringing on the sawstop.
That was pretty impressive, I felt nervous watching it 😂
Well done. It worked so much better than I thought it would.
Amazing. In all good shops for Christmas I hope
Nice work !! found your video from facebook makers group. Im a big tool machine guy, this is awesome.
A better solution would to be pull the blade away at a backward angle. No destruction of the blade. however you would also have to pull the associated motor etc..
Brilliant! This is a perfect execution of "I can totally build that". But to be totally honest, I was hoping for at least one table saw backflip 😄. I think the clutch is a better set up than the cartridge also.
Yeah I was actually slight sad it didn’t go mental 😆
Although the result is amazing, i cannot stop thinking of the amount of vibrations due to unbalancing the rotor. anyhow you gave me a brilliant idea on trying to come up with another safer system. Since i was very close to loose 2 fingers, i am also thinking of alternatives, and i believe that an electromagnetic brake system would be more efficient. Will not overload the motor, will not unbalance the blade, and could stop the blade without destroying either the blade and the motor bearings. work in progress still, a system like this could render the table saw usable for 90 Deg. cuts only though.
The first 'table saw' I had was an old ikea bedside table that I cut a slit in and bolted a circular saw to. In comparison this is alot safer!
Loved this video - never have a I felt so nervous watching something from the comfort of my home
Not sure how you managed to get any part of that working. How on earth did you manage to isolate the blade from the chassis to perform the capacitance measure? The sheer inertia of the blade should be enough to cut a hand off after the clutch somehow disengages (in a fraction of a second).
The fact that you clearly didn’t understand a lot of the dynamics at play (like trying to brake a blade by dropping a piece of steel behind the cut rather than forcing a softer metal into the cut) makes me wonder how much of this is real.
Amazing result Ruth! Table saws look so scary, I would have had the same first reaction 😂
I'm here from Threads! That's a thing now. Subscribed!
Yay!!! Welcome 🎉
@@Ruth_Amos obviously had to watch the homemade sawstop video first! 🤣
Love the video!
If only you could get a motor and electromagnetic clutch in one unit.
Haha yes Ruth! Love that you made a DIY saw stop🔥
This should have been sponsored by Saw Stop... I think I broke out in a sweat when you were testing the saw..... Great work
Geez, Ruth! That was the most scary dangerous thing you've had a go at so far!😱
Still not quite a 'SawStop' though but not bad at all. So impressed that you got it to work and not explode everywhere.
The SawStop does chuck the bit of aluminium block against the direction of rotation of the blade and uses the remaining energy to pull the blade down into the table so not surprising it is a bit quicker.
But I do like the electric clutch idea, and wonder why that isn't an industry standard. Have a lighter weight brake rotor/disc on the saw's axle and a heavy electric brake stator fixed to the table saw frame.
Maybe an IR sensor covering the whole area around the blade so that it will stop, or not start, if your hands are too close for comfort?
Having said all that I really should find a way to refit the crown guard to my saw while still allowing me to cut rebates and slots.🙈😂
Yeah there were a few points in the build where I did questions what I was doing 😆 the SawStop is a cool piece of kit. The electromagnetic clutch worked so so well! This project has definitely made me more wary around table saws (I think that may have been all the googling of table saw injuries)
@@Ruth_Amos Maybe worth a crowd fund or sponsorship deal to fund a SawStop. As much as I love my 40+ year old Wadkin AGS10 I wouldn't say no to a SawStop.
I have seen enough workshop injuries in my time, mostly as a child, to be super cautious and careful about it.
Must be the maddest but most interesting one yet x
That was pretty cool
That's absolutely amazing, Ruth! Such a brilliant solution too. Was it still using the Arduino to detect by the time you'd fitted the EM clutch?
Yeah although I did almost forget to wire it in which meant it was interesting getting my hand back in 😆
Brilliant! That's exactly what I would do too. You've got me thinking about other triggering mechanisms now though
Wow that's insanely good!
More stuff like this, love it
When Colin has safety concerns I am scared - very scared. Great work though!
resisting the urge to make phallic jokes is hard
Ah just a little scratch it'll be fine! Anyone missing a finger to a table saw never heard of a push stick. ;D
You know it's dangerous when even Mr Danger himself looks scared!
Wow! That’s inspiring
Hi there Ruth!
Can you please provide a link or something to this arduino project? ^^
Super cool!
This is awesome, but I do agree that table saws scare me so much. About 8 years ago, I bought one, turned it on and promptly sold it again because I was utterly terrified.
I was wondering if you could build an anti-kickback mechanism? It feels like you're one sensor away from being able to incorporate that into your design.
At the risk of applying hardcore engineering principles to something you built in a shed, how fail safe is this? When you were building your first prototype, it looked like you needed to apply power to stop the saw; whereas maybe it would be better to have to remove power to stop the saw? Also, is an Arduino the right base for safety critical applications? Sorry to sound negative, again, I appreciate that this was a prototype built in a shed; but I have experience of engineering in safety critical applications so old habits die hard!
Hey Charlotte, I wasn’t expecting it to work so well. It definitely would need some more work to make it usable full time. This was mainly just to see if it would work. To make it an everyday use thing it would need a bit more fine tuning. The good news is that when it false activates it just stops and you can just switch everything back on 👍🏼
Also when it is ‘activated’ the power is removed from the saw and the clutch is activated
Hi, i am thinking of makeing this or trying it, beacouse my fater about 2 months ago cut his finger to the bone and i am just wondering if it activates if it toches metal?
"So instead of investing some money, I thought I'd invest loads of time" 🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t that always the way 😆😆😆
As a blind Carpenter, that fear is a good thing. Your more focused and careful. Good work though.
Wonderful project, I'm also surprised how well it worked! But as you said, modifying a piece of machinery like that makes it even more scarier... 😬
I was wondering how well an electric load brake (or whatever it's called) would work. When a sausage is detected the power to the motor is cut, and replaced with a huge load that forces the motor (now generator) to stop. Might need a ridiculous sized load to be quick, but mechanically the saw could be kept in one piece.
Yeah I’m pretty sure there is a more elegant way of doing this. Let’s call this proof of concept and hope a brand go and do the hard work 😆
@@Ruth_Amos Sounds like a plan! The step from "throwing metal into a spinning blade" to magnetic clutch was a huge improvement, so ther can't be that many iterations from perfection... 😅
This is awesome Ruth!!! I've wondered why "they" damaged the blade... Consumable...
I'm just here for the sausage jokes.
Came for the table saw, stayed for the sausage…. Jokes 😆
@@Ruth_Amos Each time you got that near the blade, parts of my body would hurt in compasionate pain :)
the first and second prototype were scarey, and yes i also thought the third was gunna do a sumersault.
Colin furze: this scares me
Ruth Amos: let's turn it on anyways
Not sure if that's bravery or insanity but I enjoyed it very much😁
It's a really simple, complex idea that looks like it shouldn't work but does - seems like the perfect invention!
Plus, how many times did you actually say 'sausage'? I lost count 😂
Thank you! I should do a sausage count 😆
No innocent sausages were harmed in the making of this video... 🤣 Well done on the success of this Ruth
I just found your channel and really liked this video and your approach to a SAW STOP. So when is part 2 where the blade drops below the table surface? I'm sure you will figure something out and I can hardly wait to see what you come up with. New Subscriber RCW
Haha wow that's amazing and it worked so well. I completely get why you wouldn't want to pursue it further, but it seems like a viable design that could be refined into something that's actually safe. 😂 Nice work.
please guide about the arduino part in a detail about code and working as well
Your safety-inspector is missing his safety-tie. But that's probably ok when working with a table-saw.
Can I suggest you add a “long broom handle” to your toolkit?? They’re ideal for turning shit on and keeping your distance at the same time! 😉🤣 subscribed!
😆 great suggestion!
actually just get a remote power switch on an extension then you can go outsuide and trun it on ;-) lol
I love my table saw and use it all the time - sadly I couldn’t afford a sawstop though.
It still terrifies me, but i treat it with the respect it deserves.
hey can you tell me the link of that coin project?
That did not go at all the way I expected!
When will you be rmaking new videos? The workshop video was mint :D
honestly, I would have preferred to see a hunk of aluminium being slammed into the blade, make the blade draw in the brake block itself.
try this clutch ver on table saw with belt ....hmm you can create something cut of belt instantly on that models too🤔..most job site ones saw balde attached directly too motor and shaft its a bit hard to fight against torque on these models...still great job Ruth that first and two idea was terrifying soooo much 😑😬😁
Tiktok brought me here and I am suitably impressed
Wow, this is crazy. 👏👏👏
Сan i find a wiring diagram of the sensor somewhere? Thanks
Genius
Wow, wow wow...
You wanna go? 😉
Brill video. I thought from your TikTok you could buy the gubbins but I guess not haha. Nice job though. Those clutches are really powerful. 👩🔧
Thanks, ah that makes sense. Yeah so powerful!
It was at about 5:20 I started to get very scared.
5.38 Is what I heard true? , ... "coba saksikan ...." 👍
I'm so scared of my table saw that I spent a literal half an hour with and electric plane (still a scary piece of kit) planing down a board rather than rip cutting it on my table saw 😅
I can’t lie I’m worried for your safety that crazy Furze boy is leading you astray 😆
I notice she dresses up more for Colin
Here before she has a diamond play button
very cool Ruth.💪👍
Thanks Mark 😊
Good news everyone. The Finglonger
Nice 👍
The program please!!😢
Nice
Keep developing it! It costs a LOOOOOT of money to get a sawstop operational again once it's been triggered!
How on this earth does this have so few views?
I mean if you want to share it a few places ☺️😆