I agree, but it’s interesting that IMO the most recognizable bass line on HQ is from “You Just May Be The One,” the only tune on which Peter Tork plays bass!
I think if it wasn't for Nesmith approaching Douglas to produce, they wouldn't have become a legitimate band. Chip was integral to the Monkees machine.
Chip, you did a wonderful job on Headquarters, and on The Girl I Knew Somewhere. The Monkees are my favorite band, and The Girl I Knew Somewhere is my favorite song ever. Special props on how you brought the cymbals forward on You Told Me, after the line "I'm leaving." It's such a great trick, and the only place I've ever heard it. It put bright, tourmaline sparkle onto an already brilliant track. A thousand thanks for bringing into musical focus such a talented and important group. You're forever the 5th Monkee in my book.
There was no mention of Peter's banjo playing on 'You Told Me', which really drove the song and made it unique. Who else could think of that in 1967! It's one of my all-time favorites.
Yeah that was like the first rock banjo. Peter was an awesome musician all the way around. I had no idea he was so great until I saw them in 1989 and he played lead guitar on some numbers.
@@bradparker9664 Yeah, there's an instrumental guitar played by Pete on the Headquarters Deluxe Ed. that is phenomenal; he could play rings around Mike, and so versatile, too!! BTW, thanks for sending me that 'Monkees Pad' podcast, I can't wait to listen to it all. Keep in touch w/me, I never have anyone to discuss The Monkees with.
Great interview! As someone else previously said, lots of different questions and info that you don't usually hear. To drive that point home.... This is my dad, I was born and raised around this fella, and even I learned and heard a bunch of new stuff! Can't wait for part 2....... Also, 100% The Monkees should be in the R&R Hall of Fame. Here's why: Obviously they're a bunch of talented, great singing/writing guys who have stood the test of time and sold millions of records. That itself is enough, imo. Clearly there's non Rock bands inducted at this point and financial draw politics have an effect on who gets in anymore, which adds more reason for them to be in.... BUT, the main reason they should be in... The Beatles changed the f&*^$ng music world forever! The Monkees were America's answer to the "4 Kings" and they succeeded. The fact that they started as a TV show and were "assembled" should be irrelevant. As we know there are some assembled bands in the hall at this point. To a degree, the fact that they were an assembled TV show band who went on to become a multiplatinum selling/writing "real band" that's lasted forever, almost makes them deserve it even more.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Wenner is such a [expletive deleted], I'm glad he's gone, but I think he's ensured the remaining gatekeepers are still anti-Monkees. 😡
Interesting. Even as an 8 year old kid, Michael's Nesmiths 2 songs on each album were always my favorite as well. Still to this day. I found my Daughter also favored his songs, without me pushing anything.
Chip Douglas I second that you did a lot for the Monkees and vice versa. The Pisces album is an absolute masterpiece and Headquarters is as well in its own right. That alone is a huge contribution and musical history. Thank you for the incredible work. And thank you to The Monkees Pad Show for the incredible interview and keeping it alive! Subscribed.
I've never listened to an interview with Chip Douglas and man what an interview this was! He seems like a really cool guy and I LOVE this voice. Just a far out podcast all together. Thanks.
This is a unique story in the history of Rock 'N' Roll. Maybe someone will one day create a Hall of Fame so this unique story can be forever enshrined for future generations to learn about and enjoy.
I wholeheartedly agree Headquarters should have had a single. Maybe Randy Scouse Git backed with The Girl I Knew Somewhere. Or The Girl I Knew Somewhere backed with Early Morning Blues and Greens. And to have Steam Engine in the can for a decade was a shame. That could've been a badly needed hit in 1969-70. Anyway, great interview! I look forward to part 2 and PAC&J, probably my favorite Monkee album.
Randy Scouse Git/Forget that Girl was a single in the UK, but should've been one in the US. Steam Engine should've been a single in January of 1970 and back it with If You Have the Time. Shame those songs were canned in favor of stinkers like Ladies Aid Society and Acapulco Sun
@@MichaelAnthonyPresents I actually like Acapulco Sun! I think it was somewhat of a minor hit in Mexico. But that tape squeal at the end is inexcusable.
This was a great interview, I didn't want it to end. Afterward, I looked around for the interview concerning Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones, Ltd., but don't see it in your channel.
Headquarters was a wonderful album and it was nice hearing Chip's first hand account of its recording. I love that album so much because it meant so much to them and I loved the music. How talented they all were, including Chip, to do such a great recording that has stood the test of time! I miss Davy and especially Peter. The Mike and Micky Show is fine but just not the same with half the group. But at least they didn't try to reconfigure a 4 part group and replace the irreplaceable D & P! Thanks for the interview.
Being 12 years old in 1967 soon to be 13, around may of 1967 ( I could be wrong about the month) the AM radio stations were playing the song "Valleri" taped from the TV broadcast. All of the kids I knew at that time were dying to purchase that song (the original version). The frustration of not being able to get a hold of it, continued through that summer. To this day I'm sure that if that "Valleri" was released back then it would have been a HUGE hit! When the remake version with God awful horns was released in mid 1968...the wind in the sails was just not there anymore for that song. It was in the 1980's when the original was FINALLY released on cd. What a missed opportunity for the Monkees...and the public.
Long, long unpaid hours go into each episode-all done for love of the Monkees and what they have brought to us, and to the world. And when I use the term "Monkees", that includes all the unsung peripheral contributors..the whole enchilada is "The Monkees"
Chip had to believe Mike because Mike was determined to make The Monkees a success & as we know he was a fine musician & wanted to play his own guitar, no faking for Mike. After all these years Mike was SO right as the band are still beloved today as they were 50+ years ago. Sadly tho only the memories are left as the band members pass on one by one. I hope Micky lives long & continues their musical legacy for as long as he can. RIP Mike 10.12.21
JR, a big thanks for your excellent interview with Chip Douglas. For many years I’ve always wanted hear the Monkees story from the guy that produced some of their best recordings. In addition to his production skills Douglas is a great arranger, bass player and songwriter. You asked all the essential questions…thanks again!
Headquarters is my all time favorite Monkees album. I've been a Monkees fan since the day they came on the scene. I loved the tv show, but due to the fact that I was a young boy in the 60's desiring to play the drums, I really paid a lot of attention to the songs themselves, and not just the tv show only. Even back in the 60's when I acquired the Headquarters album, after hearing the first two albums, I knew then that Headquarters was my favorite and even those albums that came after Headquarters, I still held Headquarters at the top. I am so thankful to have been able to see the Monkees in concert back in 1989 when they were doing a tour with other classic names from the 60's. The only down side for me, was the fact that Michael Nesmith was not touring with them. I am, as well as all Monkees fans, extremely saddened that we have lost three of our beloved Monkees. May you all rest in peace Davy, Peter, and Michael. It's funny Chip that you mentioned Cal Tjader. I have an album by him that I acquired from my mother in law. The vinyl is red. It has some great instrumentals.
Amazing JR ! Keep up the great work! I so much enjoy listening to Chip Douglas! Can't wait for part 2......ask him what the Beatles and Sones thought of their albums or specific songs, their great vocals etc....we never get to hear more in depth personal stories other than they liked them and thought they were as good as the Marx Brothers ....also I would love to hear what the brass had to say , their reaction to the listen down on Headquarters. You asked him but we never got a response as he got distracted with the window painting. Would also love to hear the brass reaction to the excellent Pisces album! Either way great podcast JR can't wait for more......If us fans can get together to produce a high end Monkees DOC.....I'd like to discuss as I am in the video production business, we can reach out to Andrew Sandoval.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Excellent! So many Monkees' documentaries never even touch on Pisces. They all seem to go from Headquarters to the end of the tv show to Head.
100% agree. There are numerous masterworks on PAC&J; the psychedelic sound, top notch production/vocals/instrumentation, the Moog, and that album cover!
Wow what a reflective and interesting interview. Spare parts 😂🤣😂. So glad his experience was recorded. What a life Chip has. I sure hope that those other tracks he has sees a release at some point. Maybe 7A records can look into that.
I would maybe look at Davy's estate to release them one day before 7a records, that's how the estate will make money which it seems that it wants to do.
What a wonderful interview with so many first hand memories and informations about the songs and music ! I’m sure I’m not the only one transported to those times. What a treat for Monkees’ fans! Thank you so much!
Also, the episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents you guys were talking about was The Twelve Hour Caper. It took my a while to think of the name but I finally remembered it.
Great. A lot of questions of a type not usually asked. Not the same old stories over again, (well, he touches on a few but adds new things to them). This sounds like a really great, talented guy to whom, as you say, the fans owe so much. I have to wonder if there is any possibility of dusting off some of the old tracks and adding to them with Mike and Micky (and he, himself as well)? Maybe look into some of Peter's songs that were never recorded for the Monkees and complete them (hmmm: Wonder if Peter left unfinished recordings behind that could be completed? or same re: Davy). Maybe it's obvious what I'm getting at: One last Monkees album with all 4 of them. Micky has quite a bunch of demos too. His song Not So Bad is very touching and certainly could find a place on such an album. But...maybe just another one of those ideas without a place to land?
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This is just a great and very informative interview. Thanks. Looking forward to part to and PAC&J. It’s a shame Bright Sunny Day wasn’t included on the Good Times album! Perfect bonus track!
I feel like I was right there with the guys while I’m listening to this. So long ago.. 55 years ago.. I was 10. Thank you so much for doing this interview. Chip was another important guy on the back cover along with Cicalo.. now it’s personal. Headquarters was “the moment” .. what a time to have been a part of that scene..I just finished this whole interview.. JR.. you are a perfect interviewer. You give plenty of time to talk by the guest.
Amazing interview - I learned so much from hearing this. I have been a fan since the beginning, and it's satisfying as a fan to hear reflections from the people that worked so closely with the group. Great stuff here, and looking forward to the 2nd one!
Could make an excellent bonus track for a "Changes/Monkees in the 70s" boxset from Rhino Handmade, or, dare I say, a most excellent posthumous Davy track for an upcoming new Monkees record?
Personally I have little faith that Don Kirshner ever intended to release any tracks that were produced by Douglas Farthing-Hatlelid. Since the only Monkee tracks that Douglas produced were tracks that the Monkees had played on, or tracks that they'd selected to record. A tracking session for 'She's So Far Out, She's In', two versions of 'The Girl I Knew Somewhere', 'All of Your Toys', a demo version of 'Seeger's Theme', a demo version of 'Can You Dig It?', a demo version of 'Nine Times Blue', a demo version of 'Until It's Time for You to Go', 'Sunny Girlfriend', a rerecording of 'Mr. Webster', an acoustic duet of 'She'll Be There', and a demo version of 'Midnight Train'. All of those tracks were recorded either in January or February 1967, and none of those tracks were products of Don Kirshner's hit factory. Although 'Mr. Webster' was a rerecording of a track from Kirshner's hit factory. The last fifteen products of Kirshner's hit factory 'A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You', 'Love to Love', 'You Can't Tie a Mustang Down', 'Gotta Give It Time', '99 Pounds', the single version of 'She Hangs Out', the backing track of 'I Wanna Be Your Puppy Dog', the backing track of 'Love is on the Way', 'I Didn't Know You Had It in You Sally (You're a Real Ball of Fire)', the backing track of 'Sugar Man' (not to be confused with 'Sugar, Sugar' which had never been offered to the Monkees), the backing track of 'Poor Little Me', 'If I Learned to Play the Violin', the backing track of 'Black and Blue', the backing track of 'Eve of My Sorrow', and the backing track of 'The Love You Got Inside' were recorded in January 1967, and none of those tracks had been produced by Douglas. I should point out that Michael Nesmith wasn't the only member of the Monkees who wanted the Monkees to be in control of their music from the beginning. Peter Tork wanted the Monkees to be in control of their music as well. He was actually more enthusiastic about playing his own instruments than Michael was, considering that Michael voluntarily gave up playing his own instruments on certain Monkee tracks that he was in control of. 'If I Ever Get to Saginaw Again', 'Propinquity (I've Just Begun to Care)', 'Don't Wait for Me', 'Some of Shelly's Blues', 'The Crippled Lion', 'Good Clean Fun', 'Oklahoma Backroom Dancer', 'Little Red Rider', 'Calico Girlfriend Samba', 'Down the Highway (Michigan Blackhawk)', and 'Angel Band'. Whereas Peter played on pretty much all tracks that he had some degree of control over. Michael proved to be more interested in being in control than he was interested in playing on the tracks, which probably explains why there were several tracks he didn't play on.
@@spiritnme7772 Sadly, I am right. If you check the personnel for various Monkee tracks starting from 1968, you'll find that he didn't always play an instrument. Though he played more than Micky Dolenz and David Jones did.
Why no talk about PAC&J? I know that the group didn’t perform as quite the cohesive unit like HQs but the production value is waaaaaayyyyyy better and is arguably their best album.
deadpan80...what kind of Monkees podcast would this be if I interviewed Chip Douglas and didn't cover PISCES? A future Part Two episode will do just that.
No big deal Mr Douglas just produced and participated in one of the finest pop albums of the 60's, "Pisces, Aquarius.." As he humbly states that he learned how to edit on "Headquarters". He learned awful quickly and worked magic on thair best album up to that.point By the time the next recording session rolled around, Chip Douglas became the Monkees' George Martin. You listen to any track from "Pisces" today, and it sounds as fresh and original as it did In 1967. Thank you Chip Douglas!
Agreed Jerzey, thus the impetus to make this episode-to herald Chip's largely unsung contributions. I felt whatever credit he's gotten has always been inadequate. There will be a part two to this...
Great interview!! Really a fun time and very informative. Helps to realize just how talented the Monkees were in getting an insider’s view; none better than Chip Douglas.
Kirschner might have recognized it, but I don't think he could ever be coerced into admitting it. He did a fantastic job of choosing hits for an unknown band. He was out of touch with the changes going on in the music business as it related to the youth culture of the day. He was most in his element with the Archie's, hiring studio musicians to record for cartoon characters that couldn't have an idea of their own. As the Monkees became a real band, he reverted from controlling people to puppets. For Pete's Sake and Randy Scouse Git proved that the Monkees could do it on their own even if they had greater pop success under Kirschner. Mike had proved his worth on the first album with Papa Gene's Blues (not a hit, but a lovely song and as memorable as anything on that album outside of The Monkees Theme and Clarksville).
I love Chip’s voice! He has a voice for radio, that’s for sure! He doesn’t give himself enough credit, but Chip is a fantastic bassist. Peter was an EXCELLENT musician and a very good bassist, but Chip was a great bassist. As a bass player myself, I know that to be a proper bassist, you have to be a dedicated one. Meaning, you can play other instruments, but we all know there are guitar players who play bass and then there are bass players. Since Peter played piano like a virtuoso, he had a better idea about what is right and what wasn’t, but there’s an element of power and groove which bassists have that I’m sure Peter didn’t-but Chip definitely does. Basically, you have to love playing bass, not just be the person who “fills in.”
suggestion-play/record your favorite Monkees bassline song and send it to TheMonkeesPad@yahoo.com..with your permission, we may work it into an episode
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST cool! I I have performed several of the songs, including What Am I Doing Hangin’ ‘Round and Pleasant Valley Sunday. Granted on the former, I’m less busy than Chip was because I took the elements of what he played and reiterated those instead of playing it note for note, also slower than the recording which IMO was wayyy too fast. PS I was at the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium show in July 1967!
Peter clearly did not love playing bass. I read that he said Mike should have played bass. He was much better on piano, organ, banjo and a few more. I think he was very honest about his limitations.
It only now just occurred to me that Micky is playing drums on Early Morning Blues and Greens. Holy shit did he nail it. And Randy Scouse Git is genius, as Peter once stated, kettle drum and all!
In 1987, I was big into the Monkees. That Spring, I was in my high school's production of Oklahoma! Imagine my surprise during the read-through rehearsals to hear the line, "Nevermind the furthermore the plea is self-defense!" I was freaking out!!
Very excited for the PACJ interview. Will there be any talk about his work on The Turtles’ Battle of the Bands album? Truly one of the masterpieces of the era. Plus "I'm Chief Kamanawanalea” has been sampled by dozens and dozens of hip hop artists.
You have a new Subber... Going to start a playlist right now... Cannot wait to hear more..... LOVE the Monkees.. With the loss of Michael these videos are priceless... 👍
that is the entire purpose of this show-to elevate the Monkees and the people who were part of the project who might not have received the significant credit they deserve
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST They got so screwed over by MTV and the Rock Hall.. One thing the Monkees have over MTV and the Hall.. is the respect of the Beatles and the fans.....
I heard about "Head" the movie from my uncle and at the perfect time as I wasn't as giddy about them as I had been as a wee kid. He discussed how weird it was when i was in my teens (Heaven knows that might have been on purpose to wait for the right age) and WOW! I got a VHS copy, likely from him, and what friends I had in my teens got super curious when I showed them a song clip of "The moneys in we're made of tin" song, just really turned their minds over and were very interested. Maybe that's the pivot, you reach a Monkees child and then you show them that in the teens and a new respect blooms all over again. 💙
I think that's why they are still relevant and eventually gained respect and credibility from the entertainment industry. By the way, the song you referenced is called "Ditty Diego"- for the why, you would have to ask Jack Nicholson.
"Sunny Girlfriend" b/w "For Pete's Sake" should have been the US single from the headquarters album....IMO a gigantic mistake that they didn't issue a 45 from this LP.
“China Clipper calling Alameda” was from a 1936 movie called China Clipper and was spoken by its star, Humphrey Bogart. “Nevermind the furthermore, the plea is self defense” is from Oklahoma, the musical by Rogers and Hammerstein. It is stated by the judge during the murder trial in the movie. I believe it’s in the musical play, as well, but I’m not sure.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Will do, I have friends that love the Monkees too. I appreciate that you really know what you're talking about, it shows in the interviews. Happy Holidays!
Chip produced the work, but doesn't frequently listen to these songs like we do as fans...since the sessions were over 50 years ago, I think it's a detail understandably overlooked.
Nice interview. My favorite Monkees songs, Girl That I Knew Somewhere, Magdalena, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Early Morning Blues And Greens, of course Daydream Believer and Goin' Down. I defy any rapper to nail Goin' Down like Micky did.
I have a ton of respect for what Chip did, and I know he's an older guy now, but URGH! There are so many questions he babbles on about but doesn't answer, and I really would like to know the answer! For example, JR asks "What did the brass think of Headquarters?" and Chip rolls into an anecdote about the masters not being mixed yet: "I had to mix it for them live, while they listened." JR: "Why weren't there any singles off the album?" Chip: "Well, you know, the songs were on TV every week, you know..." Wha?? For years and years I have wondered why there were no singles from Headquarters. I always speculated that it was because the people in charge of the music were businessmen with a job and an agreement, but they also didn't want to be shown up. They were behind the times; Rock and Pop music wasn't strictly a business anymore. It had made that transformation into an art form, and the bands and singers wanted freedom to make their music, not contracts, so their was a conflict between the old way of doing things and the new. At one point Don Kirshner rejected The Girl I knew Somewhere claiming that it just didn't have the right sound. I think it was because he knew it would be a hit song--it had strong hooks, and melody, and a commercial sound. If it was a hit, it would blow up the myth that Don Kirshner and nobody else had the golden ear. He had to protect his rep, but it was also just a malicious power trip. When the song was finally released on record, it made the top 40 as a b-side, which had to be embarrassing to Don. Despite there being at least 3 hit songs on Headquarters, why in the WORLD would they hold back? I always assumed it was because the "brass" had to maintain the status quo. They couldn't have the Monkees making hit songs on their own. That just wouldn't do. Maybe it was a money issue. The brass wanted their cut for producing and picking out the songs that would be released. In their eyes, maybe it looked like the Monkees were usurping their jobs. Well, they were. Chip and the boys went on to produce the spectacular Pisces album, which was chock full of amazing, radio friendly songs. To me, those two albums (and The Girl I Knew Somewhere) characterize the Monkees' sound more than anything else that was produced under the Monkees name; more than Instant Replay and the Monkees Present, and certainly more than the first two records (although you can hear hints on the Monkees sound on Nesmith's songs from those albums), and to me that means Chip Douglas deserves a ton of credit for crafting a sound, and for never letting the Monkees' inexperience get in the way of producing a great track.
My take; whatever the pluses or minuses, the mistakes and disasters vs the acclaimed and the successful-we're still talking about them, listening to them and they still MATTER. "That" is the measure of whether or not The Monkees were/are important. And now, over 50 years later, we know the answer.
One of Chip's most important production edicts that I wish had been practiced on all of their recordings was to always have Monkees members handle all vocals;backgrounds included. Not blanket use of hired studio singers-just the guys themselves, with "organic" project relatives like Coco Dolenz, Bill Chadwick and Chip himself.
Chip’s production is one of the absolutely essential parts of the Monkees’ recording legacy.
Luv their videos especially the ones with all the monkees or with Davy, Peter and Micky.Their music helps me get through the day
An excellent interview with the wonderful Chip Douglas.
Chip's bass playing on The Monkees records is incredible. He lifts the musical quality 100%.
So that's Chip playing the bass on, "For Pete's Sake"?
I agree, but it’s interesting that IMO the most recognizable bass line on HQ is from “You Just May Be The One,” the only tune on which Peter Tork plays bass!
@@BlanketMan True. Very McCartney
sure does...the new 2022 Headquarters remaster really proves that
@@johnfoster4244 Yes, while Peter is playing the lead guitar and Mike plays the organ.
JR is great !!! Thank God for JR !!
Personally, “Headquarters” was always my favorite LP.
What an excellent interview!
Love Chip Douglas !! He helped them become a legitimate group . He produced the greatest album in history . Pisces Aquarius and Jones Ltd!!!!!!!!
Um- you left out Capricorn. Why?
I think if it wasn't for Nesmith approaching Douglas to produce, they wouldn't have become a legitimate band. Chip was integral to the Monkees machine.
Chip, you did a wonderful job on Headquarters, and on The Girl I Knew Somewhere. The Monkees are my favorite band, and The Girl I Knew Somewhere is my favorite song ever. Special props on how you brought the cymbals forward on You Told Me, after the line "I'm leaving." It's such a great trick, and the only place I've ever heard it. It put bright, tourmaline sparkle onto an already brilliant track.
A thousand thanks for bringing into musical focus such a talented and important group. You're forever the 5th Monkee in my book.
Great interview. Chip Douglas is such an underrated producer and musician.
There was no mention of Peter's banjo playing on 'You Told Me', which really drove the song and made it unique. Who else could think of that in 1967! It's one of my all-time favorites.
Yeah that was like the first rock banjo. Peter was an awesome musician all the way around. I had no idea he was so great until I saw them in 1989 and he played lead guitar on some numbers.
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Yeah, there's an instrumental guitar played by Pete on the Headquarters Deluxe Ed. that is phenomenal; he could play rings around Mike, and so versatile, too!! BTW, thanks for sending me that 'Monkees Pad' podcast, I can't wait to listen to it all. Keep in touch w/me, I never have anyone to discuss The Monkees with.
totally agree with you!
Great interview! As someone else previously said, lots of different questions and info that you don't usually hear. To drive that point home.... This is my dad, I was born and raised around this fella, and even I learned and heard a bunch of new stuff! Can't wait for part 2....... Also, 100% The Monkees should be in the R&R Hall of Fame. Here's why: Obviously they're a bunch of talented, great singing/writing guys who have stood the test of time and sold millions of records. That itself is enough, imo. Clearly there's non Rock bands inducted at this point and financial draw politics have an effect on who gets in anymore, which adds more reason for them to be in.... BUT, the main reason they should be in... The Beatles changed the f&*^$ng music world forever! The Monkees were America's answer to the "4 Kings" and they succeeded. The fact that they started as a TV show and were "assembled" should be irrelevant. As we know there are some assembled bands in the hall at this point. To a degree, the fact that they were an assembled TV show band who went on to become a multiplatinum selling/writing "real band" that's lasted forever, almost makes them deserve it even more.
I couldn't agree more!
the hof is a scam
Amen!
@Evil Rev Wenner has stepped down from his former position, so maybe there is a chance..The Monkees should have been included ages ago.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Wenner is such a [expletive deleted], I'm glad he's gone, but I think he's ensured the remaining gatekeepers are still anti-Monkees. 😡
Love that album. Chip was like George Martin to The Beatles. Brought the best out of them.
I’m nodding my head! Door into Summer is an incredible tune!
I wondered if people would acknowledge nodding along with that comment--thanks!
Door into Summer is great! I’ve also fallen in love with Don’t Call on Me. Mike’s voice in that…oof!
This is one of the best videos I've seen in ages. For this ancient Monkees fan it was heaven on earth.
I just can't get over this newly recovered Davy track. Put Micky's voice as the background, you got yourself a great new Monkees song.
Interesting. Even as an 8 year old kid, Michael's Nesmiths 2 songs on each album were always my favorite as well. Still to this day. I found my Daughter also favored his songs, without me pushing anything.
Guess your families gene pool loves their Nesmith~LOL thanks for your comment
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The Girl I Knew Somewhere and Tapioca Tundra are my two Nesmith favorites.
1:04:30 You haven't even got Mike & Mickey any more since Mike Nesmith passed away late in 2022. Mickey Dolenz is the sole surviving Monkee.
Door Into Summer was a great Monkees tune!
Chip Douglas I second that you did a lot for the Monkees and vice versa. The Pisces album is an absolute masterpiece and Headquarters is as well in its own right. That alone is a huge contribution and musical history. Thank you for the incredible work.
And thank you to The Monkees Pad Show for the incredible interview and keeping it alive! Subscribed.
Thanks Chip for doing such a great job producing Monkees Headquarters.
I've never listened to an interview with Chip Douglas and man what an interview this was! He seems like a really cool guy and I LOVE this voice. Just a far out podcast all together. Thanks.
a belatedd "thank you so much"
Excellent interview. It’s amazing that Chip still has a clear recollection of these events.
This is a unique story in the history of Rock 'N' Roll. Maybe someone will one day create a Hall of Fame so this unique story can be forever enshrined for future generations to learn about and enjoy.
Mike's song, Daily Nightly, is absolutely brilliant, to this day!
I agree, one of my main favorites!
Quite possibly, the First Rock Song to Feature Moog Synthesizer.
I wholeheartedly agree Headquarters should have had a single. Maybe Randy Scouse Git backed with The Girl I Knew Somewhere. Or The Girl I Knew Somewhere backed with Early Morning Blues and Greens.
And to have Steam Engine in the can for a decade was a shame. That could've been a badly needed hit in 1969-70.
Anyway, great interview! I look forward to part 2 and PAC&J, probably my favorite Monkee album.
Randy Scouse Git/Forget that Girl was a single in the UK, but should've been one in the US. Steam Engine should've been a single in January of 1970 and back it with If You Have the Time. Shame those songs were canned in favor of stinkers like Ladies Aid Society and Acapulco Sun
@@MichaelAnthonyPresents I actually like Acapulco Sun! I think it was somewhat of a minor hit in Mexico. But that tape squeal at the end is inexcusable.
@@MichaelAnthonyPresents Same 2 songs released in Australia with Alternate Title the A side being a hit.
This was a great interview, I didn't want it to end. Afterward, I looked around for the interview concerning Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones, Ltd., but don't see it in your channel.
Headquarters was a wonderful album and it was nice hearing Chip's first hand account of its recording. I love that album so much because it meant so much to them and I loved the music. How talented they all were, including Chip, to do such a great recording that has stood the test of time! I miss Davy and especially Peter. The Mike and Micky Show is fine but just not the same with half the group. But at least they didn't try to reconfigure a 4 part group and replace the irreplaceable D & P! Thanks for the interview.
Being 12 years old in 1967 soon to be 13, around may of 1967 ( I could be wrong about the month) the AM radio stations were playing the song "Valleri" taped from the TV broadcast. All of the kids I knew at that time were dying to purchase that song (the original version). The frustration of not being able to get a hold of it, continued through that summer. To this day I'm sure that if that "Valleri" was released back then it would have been a HUGE hit! When the remake version with God awful horns was released in mid 1968...the wind in the sails was just not there anymore for that song. It was in the 1980's when the original was FINALLY released on cd. What a missed opportunity for the Monkees...and the public.
This VALLERI story is discussed in more detail in episode #5 with Bobby Hart
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Oh good, looking forward to finding that one. I like a tale of a public bringing something to fruition.
This was fabulous!! Once again, thank you so much for doing this!!
Long, long unpaid hours go into each episode-all done for love of the Monkees and what they have brought to us, and to the world. And when I use the term "Monkees", that includes all the unsung peripheral contributors..the whole enchilada is "The Monkees"
Chip had to believe Mike because Mike was determined to make The Monkees a success & as we know he was a fine musician & wanted to play his own guitar, no faking for Mike. After all these years Mike was SO right as the band are still beloved today as they were 50+ years ago. Sadly tho only the memories are left as the band members pass on one by one. I hope Micky lives long & continues their musical legacy for as long as he can. RIP Mike 10.12.21
Well said, Colin-thank you
JR, a big thanks for your excellent interview with Chip Douglas. For many years I’ve always wanted hear the Monkees story from the guy that produced some of their best recordings. In addition to his production skills Douglas is a great arranger, bass player and songwriter. You asked all the essential questions…thanks again!
Agreed, Chip is of mucho importance to the band's history. It was my goal to illustrate that...there is more to come
I've been waiting for this interview for about 50+ years! Thanks!
Headquarters is my all time favorite Monkees album. I've been a Monkees fan since the day they came on the scene. I loved the tv show, but due to the fact that I was a young boy in the 60's desiring to play the drums, I really paid a lot of attention to the songs themselves, and not just the tv show only. Even back in the 60's when I acquired the Headquarters album, after hearing the first two albums, I knew then that Headquarters was my favorite and even those albums that came after Headquarters, I still held Headquarters at the top. I am so thankful to have been able to see the Monkees in concert back in 1989 when they were doing a tour with other classic names from the 60's. The only down side for me, was the fact that Michael Nesmith was not touring with them. I am, as well as all Monkees fans, extremely saddened that we have lost three of our beloved Monkees. May you all rest in peace Davy, Peter, and Michael. It's funny Chip that you mentioned Cal Tjader. I have an album by him that I acquired from my mother in law. The vinyl is red. It has some great instrumentals.
thank you for sharing your story...keep watching...we will have a Chip part 2 sometime in 2022
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Great. Looking forward to it.
Amazing JR ! Keep up the great work! I so much enjoy listening to Chip Douglas! Can't wait for part 2......ask him what the Beatles and Sones thought of their albums or specific songs, their great vocals etc....we never get to hear more in depth personal stories other than they liked them and thought they were as good as the Marx Brothers ....also I would love to hear what the brass had to say , their reaction to the listen down on Headquarters. You asked him but we never got a response as he got distracted with the window painting. Would also love to hear the brass reaction to the excellent Pisces album! Either way great podcast JR can't wait for more......If us fans can get together to produce a high end Monkees DOC.....I'd like to discuss as I am in the video production business, we can reach out to Andrew Sandoval.
Thanks~if anything is ever considered-I'm in
Great episode 👍 looking forward to part 2 .
I loved every second of this. Great subject, GREAT questions.
This is Great! Thank You!
As great as Headquarters is, the Monkees & Chip Douglas followed it up with an even better album (IMO).
There will be a "part two" to this episode that delves into the PISCES sessions as well.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Excellent! So many Monkees' documentaries never even touch on Pisces. They all seem to go from Headquarters to the end of the tv show to Head.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST can't wait... Great episodes so far by the way, thank you for doing this!!
Oh yes, I love Headquarters but it’s much better than Headquarters
100% agree. There are numerous masterworks on PAC&J; the psychedelic sound, top notch production/vocals/instrumentation, the Moog, and that album cover!
A fantastic piece of work. Much appreciated.
Wow what a reflective and interesting interview. Spare parts 😂🤣😂. So glad his experience was recorded. What a life Chip has. I sure hope that those other tracks he has sees a release at some point. Maybe 7A records can look into that.
I would maybe look at Davy's estate to release them one day before 7a records, that's how the estate will make money which it seems that it wants to do.
Great job
legends, one & all.....
Turns out very few American groups played instruments on their albums. The Wrecking Crew played the instrumental parts.
What a wonderful interview with so many first hand memories and informations about the songs and music ! I’m sure I’m not the only one transported to those times. What a treat for Monkees’ fans! Thank you so much!
The show was funny and the songs were great...
Also, the episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents you guys were talking about was The Twelve Hour Caper. It took my a while to think of the name but I finally remembered it.
of course you are correct. Are others as flabbergasted as I about the "coincidental" crossover references to the song "Shades Of Gray"
Great. A lot of questions of a type not usually asked. Not the same old stories over again, (well, he touches on a few but adds new things to them). This sounds like a really great, talented guy to whom, as you say, the fans owe so much. I have to wonder if there is any possibility of dusting off some of the old tracks and adding to them with Mike and Micky (and he, himself as well)? Maybe look into some of Peter's songs that were never recorded for the Monkees and complete them (hmmm: Wonder if Peter left unfinished recordings behind that could be completed? or same re: Davy). Maybe it's obvious what I'm getting at: One last Monkees album with all 4 of them. Micky has quite a bunch of demos too. His song Not So Bad is very touching and certainly could find a place on such an album.
But...maybe just another one of those ideas without a place to land?
big fan of chip and lots of photos included here that i’ve never seen !!
The Monkees Pad has access to a vast archive of rare images, plus what Henry Diltz/ Gary Strobl contribute ~we try to make each show unique and special
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST you've sure done that, they're a joy to see. when can we expect part 2 of this?
@@lydiarodgers It's "in the can" and will be posted sometime in the future
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST great to hear! can’t wait
This is just a great and very informative interview. Thanks. Looking forward to part to and PAC&J. It’s a shame Bright Sunny Day wasn’t included on the Good Times album! Perfect bonus track!
There will be a part 2 covering the Pisces album..
I feel like I was right there with the guys while I’m listening to this. So long ago.. 55 years ago.. I was 10. Thank you so much for doing this interview. Chip was another important guy on the back cover along with Cicalo.. now it’s personal. Headquarters was “the moment” .. what a time to have been a part of that scene..I just finished this whole interview.. JR.. you are a perfect interviewer. You give plenty of time to talk by the guest.
Amazing interview - I learned so much from hearing this. I have been a fan since the beginning, and it's satisfying as a fan to hear reflections from the people that worked so closely with the group. Great stuff here, and looking forward to the 2nd one!
We are all looking forward to Part 2. Thank YOU!
Could make an excellent bonus track for a "Changes/Monkees in the 70s" boxset from Rhino Handmade, or, dare I say, a most excellent posthumous Davy track for an upcoming new Monkees record?
Fantastic chat. Love this series. - Little Bobby
a very humble and talented man
Personally I have little faith that Don Kirshner ever intended to release any tracks that were produced by Douglas Farthing-Hatlelid. Since the only Monkee tracks that Douglas produced were tracks that the Monkees had played on, or tracks that they'd selected to record. A tracking session for 'She's So Far Out, She's In', two versions of 'The Girl I Knew Somewhere', 'All of Your Toys', a demo version of 'Seeger's Theme', a demo version of 'Can You Dig It?', a demo version of 'Nine Times Blue', a demo version of 'Until It's Time for You to Go', 'Sunny Girlfriend', a rerecording of 'Mr. Webster', an acoustic duet of 'She'll Be There', and a demo version of 'Midnight Train'. All of those tracks were recorded either in January or February 1967, and none of those tracks were products of Don Kirshner's hit factory. Although 'Mr. Webster' was a rerecording of a track from Kirshner's hit factory.
The last fifteen products of Kirshner's hit factory 'A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You', 'Love to Love', 'You Can't Tie a Mustang Down', 'Gotta Give It Time', '99 Pounds', the single version of 'She Hangs Out', the backing track of 'I Wanna Be Your Puppy Dog', the backing track of 'Love is on the Way', 'I Didn't Know You Had It in You Sally (You're a Real Ball of Fire)', the backing track of 'Sugar Man' (not to be confused with 'Sugar, Sugar' which had never been offered to the Monkees), the backing track of 'Poor Little Me', 'If I Learned to Play the Violin', the backing track of 'Black and Blue', the backing track of 'Eve of My Sorrow', and the backing track of 'The Love You Got Inside' were recorded in January 1967, and none of those tracks had been produced by Douglas.
I should point out that Michael Nesmith wasn't the only member of the Monkees who wanted the Monkees to be in control of their music from the beginning. Peter Tork wanted the Monkees to be in control of their music as well. He was actually more enthusiastic about playing his own instruments than Michael was, considering that Michael voluntarily gave up playing his own instruments on certain Monkee tracks that he was in control of.
'If I Ever Get to Saginaw Again', 'Propinquity (I've Just Begun to Care)', 'Don't Wait for Me', 'Some of Shelly's Blues', 'The Crippled Lion', 'Good Clean Fun', 'Oklahoma Backroom Dancer', 'Little Red Rider', 'Calico Girlfriend Samba', 'Down the Highway (Michigan Blackhawk)', and 'Angel Band'. Whereas Peter played on pretty much all tracks that he had some degree of control over. Michael proved to be more interested in being in control than he was interested in playing on the tracks, which probably explains why there were several tracks he didn't play on.
I do not think you are right about Mike! He loved to play and did it well! We know that they grew to be a Great Band!
@@spiritnme7772 Sadly, I am right. If you check the personnel for various Monkee tracks starting from 1968, you'll find that he didn't always play an instrument. Though he played more than Micky Dolenz and David Jones did.
Wonderful interview!
I think Chip is very underrated producer.
Lovely interview certainly their most interesting
Why no talk about PAC&J? I know that the group didn’t perform as quite the cohesive unit like HQs but the production value is waaaaaayyyyyy better and is arguably their best album.
if you watch the entire show, at the ending it's announced...an upcoming part 2 will delve into PISCES
deadpan80...what kind of Monkees podcast would this be if I interviewed Chip Douglas and didn't cover PISCES? A future Part Two episode will do just that.
Sorry punched out to early. Carry on 🥸
Loved giving this another listen. What a cool sounding guy, who was probably the best mating the Monkees could ever have had.
Forget that Girl is ,to me , one of The Monkees best songs.
Phenomenal, insightful, pleasant! Thanks for a great conversation!
These interviews are the best. So informative.
Thank you so much for these.
thank you for taking the comment to share your enthusiasm
No big deal Mr Douglas just produced and participated in one of the finest pop albums of the 60's, "Pisces, Aquarius.." As he humbly states that he learned how to edit on "Headquarters".
He learned awful quickly and worked magic on thair best album up to that.point By the time the next recording session rolled around, Chip Douglas became the Monkees' George Martin. You listen to any track from "Pisces" today, and it sounds as fresh and original as it did In 1967. Thank you Chip Douglas!
Agreed Jerzey, thus the impetus to make this episode-to herald Chip's largely unsung contributions. I felt whatever credit he's gotten has always been inadequate. There will be a part two to this...
If any of you other Monkees fans have not yet seen the movie “Head”, you must do yourself a favor and get watch it. It’s fantastic.
Great interview!! Really a fun time and very informative. Helps to realize just how talented the Monkees were in getting an insider’s view; none better than Chip Douglas.
Chip wrote the opening riff to Pleasant Valley Sunday. Case closed.
Chip was obsesssed with The Beatles' REVOLVER album at the time, and the riff was a sideways take on Harrison's I WANT TO TELL YOU
Chip sounds like such an easy going and humble guy. But obviously extremely talented - and surely Kirschner eventually recognized that.
Kirschner might have recognized it, but I don't think he could ever be coerced into admitting it. He did a fantastic job of choosing hits for an unknown band. He was out of touch with the changes going on in the music business as it related to the youth culture of the day. He was most in his element with the Archie's, hiring studio musicians to record for cartoon characters that couldn't have an idea of their own. As the Monkees became a real band, he reverted from controlling people to puppets.
For Pete's Sake and Randy Scouse Git proved that the Monkees could do it on their own even if they had greater pop success under Kirschner. Mike had proved his worth on the first album with Papa Gene's Blues (not a hit, but a lovely song and as memorable as anything on that album outside of The Monkees Theme and Clarksville).
Looking forward to watching this I've always was curious about the recording of this particular album. And what Chip did for it.
Wonderful interview, thank you!
Love this record and its organic sound.
Do you think there will be a Super Deluxe version of Headquarters?
personally, yes
Excellent interview!
Great interview,Headquarters was the first album I ever bought, I played it endlessly,.....
join the club!
I love Chip’s voice! He has a voice for radio, that’s for sure! He doesn’t give himself enough credit, but Chip is a fantastic bassist. Peter was an EXCELLENT musician and a very good bassist, but Chip was a great bassist. As a bass player myself, I know that to be a proper bassist, you have to be a dedicated one. Meaning, you can play other instruments, but we all know there are guitar players who play bass and then there are bass players. Since Peter played piano like a virtuoso, he had a better idea about what is right and what wasn’t, but there’s an element of power and groove which bassists have that I’m sure Peter didn’t-but Chip definitely does. Basically, you have to love playing bass, not just be the person who “fills in.”
suggestion-play/record your favorite Monkees bassline song and send it to TheMonkeesPad@yahoo.com..with your permission, we may work it into an episode
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST cool! I I have performed several of the songs, including What Am I Doing Hangin’ ‘Round and Pleasant Valley Sunday. Granted on the former, I’m less busy than Chip was because I took the elements of what he played and reiterated those instead of playing it note for note, also slower than the recording which IMO was wayyy too fast.
PS I was at the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium show in July 1967!
Peter clearly did not love playing bass. I read that he said Mike should have played bass. He was much better on piano, organ, banjo and a few more. I think he was very honest about his limitations.
It only now just occurred to me that Micky is playing drums on Early Morning Blues and Greens. Holy shit did he nail it. And Randy Scouse Git is genius, as Peter once stated, kettle drum and all!
Great interview! Most enjoyable!
In 1987, I was big into the Monkees. That Spring, I was in my high school's production of Oklahoma!
Imagine my surprise during the read-through rehearsals to hear the line, "Nevermind the furthermore the plea is self-defense!"
I was freaking out!!
The "Chip Douglas" thing has always killed me. I'm glad SOMEBODY finally mentioned it😂😂😂😂😂
Very excited for the PACJ interview. Will there be any talk about his work on The Turtles’ Battle of the Bands album? Truly one of the masterpieces of the era. Plus "I'm Chief Kamanawanalea” has been sampled by dozens and dozens of hip hop artists.
We'll see...I try and keep the topics Monkees related, but I'm pretty confident people would be okay with some crossover conversation. Am I correct?
You have a new Subber... Going to start a playlist right now... Cannot wait to hear more..... LOVE the Monkees.. With the loss of Michael these videos are priceless... 👍
that is the entire purpose of this show-to elevate the Monkees and the people who were part of the project who might not have received the significant credit they deserve
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST They got so screwed over by MTV and the Rock Hall.. One thing the Monkees have over MTV and the Hall.. is the respect of the Beatles and the fans.....
I heard about "Head" the movie from my uncle and at the perfect time as I wasn't as giddy about them as I had been as a wee kid. He discussed how weird it was when i was in my teens (Heaven knows that might have been on purpose to wait for the right age) and WOW! I got a VHS copy, likely from him, and what friends I had in my teens got super curious when I showed them a song clip of "The moneys in we're made of tin" song, just really turned their minds over and were very interested. Maybe that's the pivot, you reach a Monkees child and then you show them that in the teens and a new respect blooms all over again. 💙
I think that's why they are still relevant and eventually gained respect and credibility from the entertainment industry. By the way, the song you referenced is called "Ditty Diego"- for the why, you would have to ask Jack Nicholson.
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Thaks! Well, the lot of us as teens totally understood the why when we first heard it, really. ;)
"Sunny Girlfriend" b/w "For Pete's Sake" should have been the US single from the headquarters album....IMO a gigantic mistake that they didn't issue a 45 from this LP.
For Pete's Sake is one of my all time favorites
“China Clipper calling Alameda” was from a 1936 movie called China Clipper and was spoken by its star, Humphrey Bogart.
“Nevermind the furthermore, the plea is self defense” is from Oklahoma, the musical by Rogers and Hammerstein. It is stated by the judge during the murder trial in the movie. I believe it’s in the musical play, as well, but I’m not sure.
true, that..: )
Great Interview love Chip!
This is an excellent, insightful interview! Thank you.
Thanks, David..please share so we can raise awareness of the show
@@TheMonkeesPadPODCAST Will do, I have friends that love the Monkees too. I appreciate that you really know what you're talking about, it shows in the interviews. Happy Holidays!
@@Mandrake591 thanks again
Fantastic interview. Excellent.
😂thank you
It’s curious that in talking about You Told Me, Douglas makes no mention of Peter’s banjo part.
Chip produced the work, but doesn't frequently listen to these songs like we do as fans...since the sessions were over 50 years ago, I think it's a detail understandably overlooked.
“You Just May Be The One” is my all time favorite Nesmith/Monkees song.
It's late n I really needta get some sleep but I just came across this n I don't wanna go to bed. ✌️😋
Insightful interview!
Great interview!
Great overview
Mostly new history to me, always wondering who Chip Douglas is and thrillingly interesting to learn so much more about the group from a 5th 🙈🙊🙉🐵 (🐒)
Chip's own son wrote that HE learned a lot he never knew...😀
Inolvidables the monkees
Nice interview. My favorite Monkees songs, Girl That I Knew Somewhere, Magdalena, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Early Morning Blues And Greens, of course Daydream Believer and Goin' Down. I defy any rapper to nail Goin' Down like Micky did.
That’s Barry Mann (not Gerry Goffin) with wife Cynthia Weil and Carole King at 9:30
Awesome interview.
I have a ton of respect for what Chip did, and I know he's an older guy now, but URGH! There are so many questions he babbles on about but doesn't answer, and I really would like to know the answer! For example, JR asks "What did the brass think of Headquarters?" and Chip rolls into an anecdote about the masters not being mixed yet: "I had to mix it for them live, while they listened." JR: "Why weren't there any singles off the album?" Chip: "Well, you know, the songs were on TV every week, you know..." Wha??
For years and years I have wondered why there were no singles from Headquarters. I always speculated that it was because the people in charge of the music were businessmen with a job and an agreement, but they also didn't want to be shown up. They were behind the times; Rock and Pop music wasn't strictly a business anymore. It had made that transformation into an art form, and the bands and singers wanted freedom to make their music, not contracts, so their was a conflict between the old way of doing things and the new. At one point Don Kirshner rejected The Girl I knew Somewhere claiming that it just didn't have the right sound. I think it was because he knew it would be a hit song--it had strong hooks, and melody, and a commercial sound. If it was a hit, it would blow up the myth that Don Kirshner and nobody else had the golden ear. He had to protect his rep, but it was also just a malicious power trip. When the song was finally released on record, it made the top 40 as a b-side, which had to be embarrassing to Don.
Despite there being at least 3 hit songs on Headquarters, why in the WORLD would they hold back? I always assumed it was because the "brass" had to maintain the status quo. They couldn't have the Monkees making hit songs on their own. That just wouldn't do. Maybe it was a money issue. The brass wanted their cut for producing and picking out the songs that would be released. In their eyes, maybe it looked like the Monkees were usurping their jobs. Well, they were. Chip and the boys went on to produce the spectacular Pisces album, which was chock full of amazing, radio friendly songs. To me, those two albums (and The Girl I Knew Somewhere) characterize the Monkees' sound more than anything else that was produced under the Monkees name; more than Instant Replay and the Monkees Present, and certainly more than the first two records (although you can hear hints on the Monkees sound on Nesmith's songs from those albums), and to me that means Chip Douglas deserves a ton of credit for crafting a sound, and for never letting the Monkees' inexperience get in the way of producing a great track.
My take; whatever the pluses or minuses, the mistakes and disasters vs the acclaimed and the successful-we're still talking about them, listening to them and they still MATTER. "That" is the measure of whether or not The Monkees were/are important. And now, over 50 years later, we know the answer.
I always thought Micky and Davy singing harmony together resembled Lennon and McCartney - in fact, I thought that was by design.
One of Chip's most important production edicts that I wish had been practiced on all of their recordings was to always have Monkees members handle all vocals;backgrounds included. Not blanket use of hired studio singers-just the guys themselves, with "organic" project relatives like Coco Dolenz, Bill Chadwick and Chip himself.