ANATOMY OF A RESURRECTION: How They Saved Doctor Who (again)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- How do you bring a franchise back from the dead without just killing it again? This is a video about the Doctor Who 60th Anniversary specials, the Disney-led IP gold rush, and why so much corporate genre media fails where DW showrunner Russell T. Davies has succeeded (for the second time). Features an exploration of why The Timeless Child didn't work under Chris Chibnall's care, and a heartfelt re-evaluation of Steven Moffat.
00:00 - Introduction
03:24 - Part One: Just Like The Old Days
18:56 - Part Two: Respect For The Albatross
31:13 - Part Three: You Wish
51:04 - Conclusion: The Fantasy of the Unknown
58:16 - Credits (or: Just Winging It)
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TO ANYONE CONVINCED THAT DOCTOR WHO IS AT THE BRINK OF CANCELLATION DUE TO "RECORD LOW VIEWING NUMBERS": you're so wrong it's unreal
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"...they are marketing in search of art whose funders don't seem to care whether or not they find it. " The exact words I've been looking for for a while
I had a very strange feeling coming out of Wonka. Because I was positively shocked that it was a movie, based on a previously existing property, that... actually felt like the people making it cared about what they were making. How bizarre it was to realize that so much of what we watch isn't made because people want to make it, but because they're told to. I think that's what's leading to all of the boring movies we're seeing now.
@@tentavision13I haven't seen it but from the marketing material it looked like a completely sanitised and watered down version of something much better
The state of media is NOT because, as I keep hearing, “audiences have shorter attention spans”, it’s all budget cuts and profit margins and efficiency over art. The problems are top down, not whims of the watchers. That cannot be stressed enough
NPH's delivery and expression when he says "she was killed... by a bird" makes me crack up every time.
sarah i am so glad you finally got around to watching peak doctor who. heaven sent is the greatest 50 minutes of television
I am glad someone else shares my love for Peter Capaldi.
I share it too. The more it settles in the more I love his era. His and Smith’s are brilliant sides of a coin.
Capaldi is my doctor. He may not have had the best scripts all of the time, but man I love him to death.
I regard him as the best incarnation and interpretation of the character.
His own character evolution within the same incarnation and the way he influenced other characters to change as well is extremely significant.
Brilliant acting, brilliant character. Some of the stories - not so brilliant. But there were impressively high peaks I tell you.
29:28 - That might be good television, but this moment is peak video easy.
I threw my head back and laughed out loud alone in my house. Paused the video, threw my phone across the room and fist pumped.
Sarah, it's so fucking good to see you again ❤️
big same
pretty dope that this video about doctor who also includes the best and most succinct summary of what the Whole Deal was with The Last Jedi as a bonus
The summary was too succinct, and it really sounded like just another version of the narrative of "If you had a problem with TLJ, it must be because you are a bigot" which is incredibly frustrating because there were so many reasons why that movie was such an incredible dumpster fire without even the need to dip into the "woke barrel".
The backlash was well deserved, even though some people just weren't able to identify the problems correctly or articulate their grievances with it, and quite frankly, I'm glad that Rian Johnson got the soft boot and thrown under the bus by not letting him have his trilogy. It's just too bad that this didn't really save Star Wars from the horrible state of slop that followed TLJ anyway. Andor was the first thing after Rogue One that was made with any sort of competency, and I fear it's going to be the only one given how bad every other series has turned out to be thus far.
The Mavity gag bugs the shit out of me, on a logical level, but I recognize that It's objectively hillarious.
I very rarely see takes on Doctor Who that I don't feel at least some degree of "this has completely missed the point of why this show is so important to me" around that always makes me hesitant to click on a video about this show. This essay was a positively delightful exception to that rule in a way that does not surprise me at all given the consistent brilliance of your work. Thank you for not only capturing and putting into words but also structuring your analysis around the things that (I happen to think) make this show special and interesting. Thank you also for quelling some of the residual cynicism I still hold around Doctor Who being sortakinda a Disney property now. I feel more optimistic walking into today's episodes after this.
That said, I do think the Whittaker/Chibnal era will deserve a re-evaluation one day. I don't think the world is ready for it just yet, but I have already started finding a new appreciation for some of those episodes that I very much did not have when they first aired, and I hope I will not be the last to feel this way.
This!
Yeah, this reflects how I felt when I saw the new episodes were just a normal string of episodes that were fun and sincere even if they had some awkward dialogue here and there
I couldn’t really talk about them on Reddit because they’d all been playing a big game of telephone and convinced each other that Smith and Capaldi were intentionally being teased, and infuriated that this was just Doctor Who being itself rather than Spider-Man far from home
I just really wanted to commend your camera work, set, and lighting. I'm no expert by any stretch but I'm just delighted by the care given to this setup
NO STUN GUNS FOR ME, JUST DIE!!!
hoooly shit, what a refreshing Doctor Who video to really take this shit in and give the good and bad a fair shake. I had a great time with all of this. Especially shoutout to technobabble and technobusiness. Excellent work, this
Hating on Moffat is so 2015 😴😪
Edit: oh, wait, welcome to the Capaldi cult 🙏🙏🙏
gotcha with the fakeout :3
capaldi is SO GOOD i can't believe i slept on his doctor for so long
14:10 I had to stand up and shout it myself. What a fucking unhinged and delightful line. 😅
It's so much fun!
My favourite part of this new season has been as you put it "the respect for the albatross"
How the 14th doctor works in the grief of the flux
And how the 15th doctor processes the revelation that he was adopted by the gallifrians instead of being born there (and by that same token the grief of gallifrey being DESTROYED AGAIN)
I think RTD has made a really good through line with the doctor having a new perspective about being a foundling
i am always so profoundly impressed by your work, if one day i make something even half as good as your tunic video i’d probably ride that high for weeks.
your writing style is so phenomenal, i always leave your videos feeling like i’ve learned something : )
0:42 “When the doctor dies, his body regenerates into the form of the new actor playing him.”
I just rewatched the entire series to verify that this is actually the case, and it is! Every time. It kind of seems like a coincidence, but it's still cool.
I love this hairstyle and outfit! And listening to you talk about a show I've only ever seen 3 or 4 episodes of.
I feel like I have to push back on the companion puppet show being a critique of Moffat writing character endings. while they do have some solace in them they're each fully portrayed as a tragedy, 11 is broken up by Amy's death that he tries to retire, 12 tortures himself for 4 and a half billion years due to Clara's death as well as being regretful and mournful for Bill. just because the doctor is the one giving excuses doesn't mean those weren't meant to be tragic and hurtful to him at the time. I see it more of RTD defending those Moffat endings from critics that said that Moffat can't stick to death by saying those deaths still happened and were hurtful to the Doctor. (plus I always feel like Moffat's endings are specifically to give the companions more agency in their departures especially Clara's). I dunno as someone who liked Moffat's era throughout it felt a lot better to see those eras respected in that scene after there was virtually no reference to them during the Chibnall era.
I am glad to see someone become a Moffat defender tho and understand that the tumblr fans can be wrong about some things.
Finally made it back to finish this (had to leave halfway through the premiere bc work). Excellent, excellent stuff. I think I need to start watching doctor who again.
He didn't cast a female Doctor, BUT he did cast a female Master. HELLO? And she's the best version of that character by far! LOVE Missy, love her. 😍😍
One of the things I like about "The Pronouns Scene" is that it's a direct quotation of the introduction of Tom Baker's Doctor with the term 'the definite article'; knowing the history of the franchise and recontextualizing it in a modern setting while also being its own thing that stands on its own even without that prior knowledge.
There is this t-shirt with 4 boxes of preferred pronouns: he/him - she/her - they/them and (ticked) the Doctor!
What would really diverse people like to be called ? - I guess it is their choosen name too😂
yaayyy new sarah video!! this is so good, and your love for doctor who absolutely bleeds through in every moment, i hope you share more doctor who opinions as this era unfolds
I was just going to look at the intro, but ended up watching the entire thing in one go, without any breaks. In other words: Good job!
Yaaaaaay a new Sarah Zedig video! I love how you make arguments and I too am a huge Doctor Who nerd who owns almost the entire series on Blu-ray/DVD/Audio CDs of Missing Episodes.
“Inclusion isn’t a quota, it’s an expansion pack” 😭🤩
I was scrolling past the thumbnail and for a second I thought you were holding a crossbow and were going to literally save the Doctor.
i'd do it if i had to
I am currently watching through the Capaldi seasons with a very good friend and I am constantly shocked at how good the episodes are. As you said, there are a few annoying "Moffitt-isms" but compared to how many there were in Smith's run, it's a massive step in the right direction
Wow she did not miss for an hour straight... Amazing criticisms on the past show and new episodes. Wasn't sure if I was going to watch them but now I'm very excited to see them!
Excellent video, thank you so much for making it.
I do disagree that the Toymaker's marionette show is as critical of Moffatt as you're making out, though! I don't think it was ever meant to be 'all right then' in the original episodes - none of those companion exits feel good. It felt very in step with Moffatt's work, to me.
And I wouldn't described any of them as extraneous! Amy dying of old age after an arc that revolved around her inability/reluctance to fully grow up, Clara completing her transformation into the Doctor (thus transcending the fundamental power imbalance of having a relationship with a time traveller that Moffatt has been writing about since The Girl in the Fireplace), Bill - like every protagonist in s10 - getting a good ending with no knowledge that anyone else made it out alive (plus stepping out of her grave and becoming an unburiable gay!). All of this is thematically vital!
Anyway, this was literally my only gripe. Loved it. And the UK audience very much did sour on Moffatt's run right before it got really good, in my experience - I had a very similar experience to yours, and only gave the Capaldi era a second chance at the urging of my partner and a dear friend who both love it.
(Also I loved how both RTD's writing and Tennant's performance of 14 was visibly drawing on 11, 12, and 13's characterisation and mannerisms!)
Your writing reads so good to my ears
After 11 seasons, I refuse to watch even one more episode, but I'll watch this vid
Haven't even watched yet just super hyped for an hour long vid let's goooooo
Not watching Capaldi's run as it aired was messed up, best doctor in the modern era.
Glad you saw the light ❤
I didn't know I needed to see this today but I did! Thanks, Sarah!
"Inclusion isn't a quota - it's an expansion pack"
I absolutely love this!
thank you! i was pretty happy with that line myself :3
This was SUCH a good video. I love all the points you bring up about it actually creating a welcoming space to share people's stories and not just fill in boxes. I do just want to say that Ruth Madeley and her character Shirley are not "wheelchair bound" they use a wheelchair. It's worth pointing out that they literally get out of the chair in the Giggle episode and there's a moment where Kate Stewart accuses them of faking it because of this. In the video clip you showed, Ruth uses the term "wheelchair user" which is more accurate and does not imply that the wheelchair is in and of itself a limitation. The wheelchair allows for greater access to the world.
yeah that was my mistake
You know, I didn't think I'd ever sincerely want to watch Doctor Who again (I gave up during early Capaldi, and only got half a season into Chibnall's run as trying again), and yet, here we are. I've always missed it, and maybe I can feel that emotionally again
Love this. You so get how Doctor Who canon works, at its best. And so glad you cut through all the rigamarole of the bi-generation, and just said what the show says happens. Thank you. (Also very cool application of your formula to the SW revival trilogy. Thank you again!)
this is a good video and generally correct and i like it. A+.
I've never watched Doctor Who and don't really care about it at all but still enjoyed listening to you talk about it passionately for an hour.
Finally, a fellow Moffat defender that gets how gendery 12 is. So much of Capaldi's Doctor's characterisation can be read as gender dysphoria. The passive suicidality, constantly surrounding himself with fascinating powerul women, desiring to not be himself... And then he finally gets to be a woman as a reward for choosing to live.
I know it's all unintentional, but it mattered a lot to me as I worked out my own trans identity
bahahaah no.
I appreciate that you added that it was unintentional, because I wouldn't like to give Moff undeserved credit lol. But it is a very nice read of his character, I wish it was incorporated into the actual show somehow.
Regardless of Moffat's intentions, I'm glad you were able to have this reading ^_^
@@waywardh9528 timelords are pretty much genderless and asexual and the doctor even more so. Remembering the famous line by Tom Baker "You're a beautiful woman! Probably!"
@@ennayanne It most likely wasn't his intention - but I bet he supports that reading. After all, the queerness of the show didn't vanish from it when he took over! Far from it!
God, watching the current season has been a breath of fresh air to my TV watches. The season just keeps getting better and better.
i've been so shocked by each consecutive episode
"Inclusion isn't a quota, it's an expansion pack." 💯
Holy shit you really summed up exactly my feelings about all of this. Thank you.
Your analysis is insightful, thoughtful, and blessed with a light touch. It’s the best kind of critique - coming from a fan, who clearly looks at Who with the same excitement as they first had with this delight of a show. Excellent critique. More please, Sarah.
Excellent video
Ok now that I've finished the vid: I've never seen an episode of Dr. Who but I do hope to watch parts at some point. My long running goofy sci-fi of choice has always been Star Trek, which has had its own revival issues. Thank you for sharing some of the excitement you have for the new season - I'm particularly interested in the swapping of "technobabble" out for "fabulobabble", it sounds fascinating and I think it's a cool direction to take the series (again, speaking as someone who hasn't seen Dr. Who lol)
Babe, wake up, new Sarah Zedig video dropped! \o/
I had also dropped midway through Moffat's run only to come back and realize that 12 was amazing. One of my favorite Doctors without question
Capaldi was my favorite doctor and somehow I don't remember anything except the ax battle(/hyperbolic)
The whole thing about the timeless child is that it.... Doesn't really make much of a difference? We already know that gallifreyans developed into time lords, that regeneration wasn't natural, and that the doctor has a weird origin. Almost every future version of the doctor is essentially a god of time, or time itself embodied, or what have you. He was the only one other than rassilon who could use his big silly thanos glove. The timeless child doesn't erase anything, it just shuffles the doctor's importance further into their past - which is truly not something that makes any difference in a time travel show, right? But yeah, the lack of usage of it was an issue. I want to see the fugitive doctor return. The first black doctor, the first black female doctor especially, deserves her time in the spotlight. If she became something like a new River Song, that would be incredible.
Yes it feels like it purely hinges on the audience finding it shocking, but in-universe it barely matters at all
The Doctor, who knows the Time lords are monstrous egomaniacs, whom once rationalised blowing up their entire planet to get rid of them, is horrified to learn they weren’t entirely honest about their history
The Master, whom recently learned his lifelong insanity was deliberately inflicted on him, is so angry upon learning they also ruined his archenemy’s childhood for personal gain that he kills them all
Like, the whole thing hinges on the idea that it’s surprising that the Time lords weren’t great people
HOLY SHIT SARAH Z BUT THE OTHER ONE - YOU'RE BACK!!!! by which I mean, you're back in my feed after disappearing following your homestuck fanfic video. I think I watched everything you'd put out up until that point. madness!! oh also neat vid :)
Wondeful video
Now "Who" is ready for more tonight!
The first two episodes absolutely double down on EVERYTHING you said and it is AMAZING. Tricker diety drag queen stealing music and the day is saved by the beatles and the episode is ended with a dance sequence? YES DR WHO IS BACK AND ITS DIFFERENT AND ITS PERFECT
god i love this show. another banger of a video!!!!
thank you for watching! if you liked this video, please share and talk about it wherever appropriate. youtube's algorithm isn't particularly kind to my videos, so any scrap of word-of-mouth goes a very long way.
@51:00 after pondering and listening to your video, I had the after tought : Jodie said TAG you're it!
The Toymaker thus retook power from being tricked by Hartnell after ALL this time !!!
When he says messing with your timeline, we haven't even seen the end of it yet |
My first time watching your stuff, and it’s one of the finest videos on Who (and media generally) I’ve seen in a long time. Subscribed!
Great video!
This resurrection was so on point that RTD even brought back the mid finales. But seriously tho great video.
it's amazing how true to the spirit of modern doctor who the new series is. totally embodies all its best and worst qualities
RTD when he resurrects the show a second time: "Another one."
I don't even watch Dr. Who, and this video still inspires me. Think I'll draw a weird comic now. Good job Sarah, thanks.
excellent video!! i have nothing to add because you said everything already, extremely articulately, except that i think more video essays should end with the host suddenly running out of frame. caleb gamman's cybergunk-esque 👍
alright, alright, i'm opening up iplayer to give church on ruby road a try, you got me
uh i dont give a shit about doctor who but it's an hour long sarah zedig video so i guess i do now
made me cry 11/10 amazing video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I don't care much about Doctor Who, but your commentary on the state of IP versus art is really wonderful. Thank you so much for making this.
Damn good video 🙏 if I were on PC I would've highlighted the sentences I really loved
There are some really good quotes on here that I could use next time I ramble about doctor who ahaha
I will share it for sure in my doctor who fan group circle
23:23 that's actually not true. chibnall and matt strevens wanted all the senior staff who'd worked on the show for years to reapply and interview for lower junior roles, and so most of them left for other things.
I've never seen a single episode of Doctor Who, but your storytelling and structuring of content is so thoughtful that I knew it wouldn't be an issue :)
I love how RTDs new attitude is just “What are you gonna do? Fire me??”
it's so good
This was lovely. ❤️ Will you talk about the next/coming episodes? And/or the venomous hatred now hurting the show?
i'm not sure! i don't want to become Someone Who Makes Videos About Doctor Who, but i'm considering making something when the season wraps up. as far as the venomous hatred though, i honestly find it kind of amusing because on a ratings level the show right now is simply uncancellable. the haters, as usual, are living in a fantasy world and like i said in the video nothing they say or do can affect the text or its ongoing existence
@@letstalkaboutstuff yeah, precisely. MrTardis made a great video putting the views in perspective, worth checking out!
It's fascinating to hear such an intelligent analysis of a programme I love. I really enjoyed this.
That was a delightfully positive essay with many good arguments! And I must say, it probably was exactly what I needed after having been underwhelmed by the first two episodes of the new season. Why be a bummer about not vibing with a string of stories? Embrace the odd failure here and there! Soon there's going to be a great one again - and then it'll all be fine. Because, after all, you're here for the great ones AND the bad ones. Sort of, kind of. ;)
The journey back is evidenced in strong episodes in the Peter Capaldi/JodieWhittaker eras imo. But I am so happy that the new Who is being made in the way it is. These specials need to be given their due as a restart of the show and ends storylines with David Tennant's era. Anyway great video - new sub.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
Thank you!! This video really put my own thoughts into words. It helped my brain. :D
The Rise of Skywalker really was a completely pointless own goal, a terrified conservative fleeing from the light of potential, it's good to see someone just openly say it. The haters did not matter and they lit it all on fire for nothing.
Guess I have to go rewatch the Capaldi seasons again. Man there is some real rough stuff in there though. I will say Missy is my favorite Master in the entire run of the series.
Gomez is just an amazing actress, she has made every project she's been in better just by being awesome.
I got so angry about "Kill the Moon", that is really NOT scifi, but he had to do some more of that and as daft as the stories were, he played them really great😊
I mean - no rougher than series 2. Series 8 was the first time under Moffat you had reviews coming in to rival Fear Her and Love and Monsters. Series 9 and 10 though were much more consistent with only Sleep No More ruining the best run of NuWho.
So glad you’re back!
29:28 is such a funny bit for me, as a kiwi who loves and has a close relation to Lord of the Rings. Just that little tiny joke.
any time an actor kicks a thing on screen in a movie or tv show i think to myself "did you know viggo mortensen broke his foot filming this scene"
Engagement for the engagement god!
just an excellent fucking video, bravo
thank you!
Love this! This is the good stuff.
I will say though, the whole thing about 14 being newly emotionally demonstrative isn't really true; Matt Smith's doctor was pretty frequently vocal about who he liked and what he cared about, and I think there have been a bunch of situations where the doctor gave someone a congratulatory hug or forehead kiss (usually for comedic effect)
Whats the dr who theme remix in the credits? Is that also mollynoise?
yup!
totally a distinct piece of music called "prof when" that is not copyright problematic ;), since you asked, i've uploaded here on.soundcloud.com/QJaPBjgVPsMomQVr6
Upcoming nitpicky comment about a detail that isn't important. The Division does the mind wiping isn't the time lord cia. that's the celestial investigation agency which is different to the division yet both do shady stuff.
While I don't like the timeless child the fact rtd does more with it in a few scenes than chibnall did is so telling. Same for the flux. Chibnall doesn't really care that much about consequences to the characters. Characters are the main thing rtd is interested in more than plot.
RTD is conducting New New Who to a place strange and I'm all for it. Last episodes are strange, a little off, not always brilliant but he is going somewhere and I really feel it's gonna be great. Great vid!!
WOOOOOOO AGE REGRESSION MENTIONED
I'm committing the sin of commenting before I finish the video, but my girlfriend and I have been (slowly) rewatching modern doctor who since they announced Davies coming back for the specials and your take on the Capaldi/Moffat run is so fascinating to me! I dropped off of DW pretty early into Matt Smith's run and was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed his first season this time around. We had chalked up how bad other two seasons were comparatively to Moffat running out of good ideas or being a better special writer than showrunner, not the pressure of running two huge shows of two separate beloved British IPs at the same time. I was really apprehensive, but now I can't wait to slough through the rest of Matt Smith's last season to give Capaldi a fair shake! Thanks for the interesting insight!
honestly one thing i meant to say in this video and didn't is that you are absolutely not obligated to watch every single episode. i actually think it's a lot more fun to just kinda jump around to the eras/episodes you're interested in. honestly *most* of matt smith's last season is skippable. clara doesn't really become a character until capaldi enters the scene, so you really can just sorta skip to the three finale episodes in series 7. there's no point having a bad time when the good times are right there
thats the approach we're taking with it too! my girlfriend loved the 11th doctor when his run was airing so we're mostly sticking this out for her, but there have been more than a handful of episodes we got about five minutes into and moved on to the next one. knowing you can skip to the last 3 episodes of season 7 without missing much is very tempting though... anyway! I really enjoyed the whole video & your insight on the series! thanks for taking the time to respond :)
yesss!! One of my fave creators talks about one of my (previously) fave shows!
(Moffat exhausted my interest previously.)
"11 is a 900 year old has a mid life crisis where he thinks if he can convince the rest of the world he is a cool young guy it might just come to pass who then regenerates into 12 the old stern fool 11 was all along and despite not becoming a women like the fandom hoped still has a very gendered moment where he begs his companion to see him as his authentic self"
That really hit hard for me watching this made me want to rewatch 12's run for like the 3rd time lmfao
this is also why I think strange new worlds works the best out of most of the Star Trek series right now too for the same reason they’re self-contained episodes even though there’s some ark that goes through it, but that tends to be personal, which is actually really much better way to do things
Fabulously entertaining video, stuffed full of humorously expressed serious opinions, that left me shouting "Yes!" at the screen and reaching for the 'Subscribe' button. More, please!
You have such a good way with words Sarah, I was in stitches as I watched this. I don't even have an interest in Dr. Who
Bit early to say if its saved or not. But i dont think it was ever going to get cancelled pre RTD2
I loved Capaldi and I loved the derangedness of Matt Smith. Not a fan of Moffatisms, but also there were many parts of David Tenant I didn't like either so. Mixed bag!! This video was just so nice to see and I might actually go watch the new ones now :)
ur so right goddamnit
Oh please make more videos about doctor who
Bill Murray and Sigorney Weaver back to Ghostbusters??????!?!!!!?
Thats some shade to Dan Ackroyd and Ernie Hudson.
a bunch of the examples i cited there had more returning cast than the ones i mentioned but it got unwieldy to include every single name
@@letstalkaboutstuffmeant that as a joke. Also I liked Ackroyd and Hudson in the new movie but I would have ditched Murrays cameo.
Anyway, loved anyone who talks up the anniversary specials. Really looking forward to Gatwa's new episodes.
I'm sorry but I literally do care about spoilers. I can probably guess what you're going to say - that a good story will reward consuming it with full knowledge of what's coming - and I even agree that that's true. The thing is, you can have that experience as many times as you want, on all your subsequent returns to that story, but you only ever get one shot at experiencing a story with its mysteries intact.
looks like my spoiler warning did its job
Also with unleashed its wonderful at highlighting the schemes here in Wales that are in place to help people get into the industry