Brilliant, Pete. I've been working my way slowly through your many videos and greatly enjoyed them all. Informative, well written and read, with a wonderful choice of background music. They're such a contrast to the vast majority of shouty, in-your-face videos that seem to be all the rage these days. Just hoping you don't run out of subjects too soon. Many thanks...
Hello David and many thanks for your appreciation of the channel. iIt's particularly rewarding that you favour my deliberately low-key approach. I have hated gimmicky presentation ever since the BBC first started using computer graphics. And regarding subjects I have to say on current showing I'm more likely to fall off my perch than run out of subjects for videos. I still have more to do than I've already done.
Another great video, thanks. I was familiar with Rowland Emett and Ronald Searle from a fifties collection of _Punch_ cartoons I grew up with in California, and Andy Capp was pretty well known too, but all the others were new to me. A lot of their work reminds me of illustrations (mostly ads) done by my late father-in-law, who was also a skilled illustrator. Looking forward to watching more of your fascinating histories. Cheers from cloudy Vienna, Scott
Absolutely fascinating! Perfectly presented and incredibly detailed descriptions. May I suggest one kind of graphic art you haven't yet covered, the cover illustrations of paperbacks? In the 50s and 60s they were far superior to the rather abstract and dull covers of today.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. And the subject of the evolution of book covers (both dustjackets and paperback) has been on my bucket list for some time, and if I don't fall off my perch any time soon your wish will be my command. But it's a long list so I have no idea when....
Hello and the simple tgings that used to keep people amused back then seem so strange now. I can still remember the excitement of collecting a whole series and pasting them in a book.
Hi again, and in what passed for my own career I did a lot of work for the RT during the 80s. And despite the fact they paid peanuts and always had insanely short deadlines I thought (incorrectly) that I had made the big time. Such is life.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. I ouldn;t resist watching your seed painting video and I must say I'm envious of your ability. I never could paint properly which is why I favoured ink and watercolour in my working days.
I'm just catching on on these, and it is a great series! Thanks, indeed. I do feel the need to point out that Andy Capp is not a Geordie -- he's from Hartlepool, which is another thing entirely!
Hello and thanks for your appreciation and subscription.Apologies for the regional blunder. I'm surprised I even used the term geordie as the vast majority of viewers are American and wouldnt have a clue what the term means. Mea culpa.
Thanks for your positive comment. This video is far from the most popular of the ones I've done but I always thought it was one of the best. Maybe because I remember it all from growing up in the 50s. Either way thanks
Thank you so much for this brilliantly put-together and narrated documentary about our British illustrators from an artist’s point of view! Wonderful !!!!!
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. It has to be said this isn't one of my more popular videos. Its American counterpart does a lot better undoubtedly because the great majority of viewers are in the USA. But it's still one of my favourite videos.
I'm enjoying these videos a lot! Those pocket sized war comics eventually made their way to Scandinavia and they were a big part of my childhood in the '70s. There were two very well drawn magazines in regular publishing, one air force (featuring the adventures of Battler Britton, I remember) and one army. And also at least two other magazines, similar but with less impressive artwork. Odd that even though I was born in 1968 I was so emerged in entertainment from one or two generations before me. Tarzan movies and Flash Gordon serials in black and white for instance. And passed down books of boys' adventures from the '30s.
Hello and I'm pleased that you are enjoying the channel content. Those comics were part of the fabric of my childhood too (born in 1950), and the illustrators didnt get anything like the credit they deserved. I think there's a website for british comics where you can download full copies of some of the comics. I hope you continue to find material that's of interest.
I have only recently been introduced to this wonderful series of videos and am thoroughly enjoying them. This one especially nostalgic as I started work as a studio trainee in 1962, and most of the reference books we had were from the 50s. The images and illustrations of that era have always stayed with me and continue to interest me. P.S. Would have like to have seen some Rupert Bear work, though.
Hello again and thanks a lot, and it's nice to have a viewer even older than I am by the sound of things. And I agree Rupert was an oversight - and others too many to list - but there's only so much you can cram into less than a quarter of an hour, and many of my viewers seem to have distressingy short attention spans.
Hello and it was very much a memory lane job for me when I made this one. It's how the world looked as I grew up. I wanted to make a counterbalance for the video about the USA in the same period. Different worlds...
Hello and so did I. With hindsight collecting cards so you could stick them in a book doesn't seem like much fun, but I recall getting very excited by the prospect of a new pack of tea to tear asunder for the card. We must be about the same age.
I still have my "Thelwell 's Horsebox" from childhood. Since then, I've put together a large collection of Thelwell's books. He was definitely a favorite of "horse girls" like me. :) Otherwise, I know almost nothing about British illustrators of this period. As always, an informative and delightful video. Thanks!
Hi again and thanks for your appreciation of this pair of videos, which I rather thought made an interesting contrast of our respective popular cultures in that period. Sadly not many viewers showed interest in both. As I grew up Thelwell was everywhere, and I loved his pen and watercolour technique.
@@petebeard well, I'm going to keep watching. Every one of your videos is an education. :) As to Thelwell, as much as I love his color work, I think I love his pen & ink work more. His line work is very concise and solid. Quite excellent, really.
Hello and thanks. It had the same 'memory lane' effect on me too. As a nipper I was far too engrossed with comics to pay most of these illustratros any attention but now I'm old I really appreciate their work.
My new favourite channel. In just over 14 minutes you managed to squeeze in a ton of favourites including, Francis Marshall, Eric Fraser, Bawden, Emmet and Searle, Sherriffs and Tunnicliffe. Honourable mentions for others like, Ravillious, Sheppard, Hilder and Frank Bellamy?
Hello again and thanks for the tip-off regarding Julius Glipkens. I've covered others of his ilk such as Julius Klinger but this chap slipped through my radar so I'll investigate further. It all depends whether I can find enough visual material and biographical info to make a feature. And the names you suggest from Britain in the 50s all resonate, but when the videos are so short something/someone has to be left out. As it is all the videos ended up far longer than intended (average attention span is apparently just over 8 minutes). And as a matter of interest may I enquire about your background? Not many have your breadth and depth of knowledge on the subject and I'm just being nosey about how you connect with illustration.
pete beard Hi Pete. As a sometime illustrator, artist but mainly (semi obsessive) fan of illustration comics and art. I was struck by the way you zeroed in on so many important illustrators across the scene. To be knowledgable about the (mainly Spanish) artists of the Battle Picture Library and also aware of Frank Wooton, Arthur Ferrier and Bob Sherriffs suggests an equally obsessive outlook. To also be aware of Dean Cornwall, Saul Tepper, Leyendecker , Perry Peterson or even Alex Toth suggests way too much time spent researching. But that, I fear, is the curse of the enthusiast.
Thanks again. A wonderful overview of the talent that flourished then. I grew up with artists from the 60s and 70s, such as Ron Embleton, Angus McBride, and Don Lawrence (mainly from reading Look and Learn). Do you have any plans to cover them in a video? (Maybe you have and I haven't found it yet).
@UCEP5zb_eXvX2q2BlH8XkXNA No pressure at all, those artists just crossed my mind as I was commenting, there were a few good talents about in the 60s and 70s, servicing comics and magazines. Another excellent video, Pete.
Marcellous and enriching as ever- I am particularly fond of Rowland Emmett who's a new discovery for me. Somewhat reminds me of Claude Ponti (who was a major part of my and a lot of French kids childhood) in terms of whimsicality and invitation to explore the crazy constructions! As an art student I can't thank you enough for providing some light into the of neglected part that illustration takes in art history!
Hi and thanks for watching - and enjoying the videos. And another hanky for introducing me to the work of Claude Ponti - an illustrator I didn't know existed. Now I feel guilty for not including him in my history of french illustration...
I appreciate this video, sir. As an American artist & former illustrator, I've long known of the greats of my land--McGinnis, Whitcomb, Moran, cartoonists like McManus, Eisner, McCay, etc. But apart from Ronald Searle, I didn't know much about British illustration & cartooning prior to the computer era. (Shameful to admit but in my defense, I do know a bit more about medieval & pre-Renaissance Britain than most people stateside) Anyway, this is most educational & I enjoyed watching. Some of Frances Marshall's work looks rather similar to what I do these days in ink & brush. Took a snapshot of the credits...now I can look up a few examples of British talent. And I will!
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation. I think the syndrome you refer to affects everyone, and I can't tell you how many discoveries I've made while making these videos. The internet may have its faults but the wealth of visual material that can be found from even quite obscure countries never fails to astonish me. If you want more British illustrators there are many featured in the unsung heroes series and some solo videos too. Searle is very much waiting his turn. And I took great pleasure in watching some of your videos - nice to see someone using pen,ink and brush. I started out that way but ended up digital , which with hindsight I sort of regret.
Hey, Pete! This is a blast. It is because of lunatics like these that I became an artist, graphic designer, Art Director and Creative Director for a few of the biggest ad agencies, BSB Bates WorldWide, Young and Rubicam, DDB Needham etc. Thanks, Pete for the MEMORIES!
Hello and thanks for the appreciation. Unfortunately the nature - and length - of these 'overview' videos means that many are left on the virtual cutting room floor. I could make them longer and include more illustrators, but as it is average viewing time for a typical video is only half it's actual length. Attention spans aren't what they used to be.
I was born in '59 and grew up with so many of these wonderful artists and a favourite Annual eevery Christmas from my parents was 'Rupert the Bear' illustrated by Mary Tourtel. Sadly you missed out one of the TOP artists of the time, Alfred Bestall! As i grew up i was influenced by his work and did my own drawings and watercolours. I used these in a childrens book I wrote and illustrated in 1986 - sadly no one would publish it....BUT One pubisher has since asked me to convert the book into a graphic novel, which they said they WILL publish. Great video and memories. Thank You.
Hello and thanks for your appreciation. And apologies for leaving out Rupert. Unfortunately when making overviews such as this I end up leaving out many more than are actually included. I might have to make a part 2. Good luck with your graphic novel but I advise caution...in my experience publishers and sharks are hard to differentiate.
So many memories Pete. You have an uncanny knowledge and incredible access to so many beautiful illustrations. This episode was an absolute delight. I paused it many times to look closer at the wizardry of the illustrators. Where did they find the time? Thanks once again. Best wishes.
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation. This video is a particular favourite of mine as it covers the world I grew up in, and a lot of what's shown made a serious impression on me when I eventually became an illustrator.
According to a story my mother used to tell, when asked as a little kid what I wanted to be when I grew up, my answer was 'Giles'. How I loved his cartoons in the Express. And if only I could have been that good.
Both Searle and Giles were popular here in Denmark, and rightly so! That old, rather frightening grandma of Giles' has been a lifelong inspiration to me. Thank you for doing such a brilliant job!
I noticed you mentioning the Danish artist Arne Ungerman. You might also want to look up the following Danish illustrators: Robert Storm Petersen, Aage Sikker Hansen, Bo Bojesen, Claus Deleuran, Per Marquard Otzen - they're good! Again: thank you, I enjoy your excellent work.
@@dortebuttenschn3764 Hello again and thanks for those names. I already have Petersen and Sikker Hansen waiting in line for future instalments, and of course Tenggren and Nielsen have already appeared, but the others I had never heard of. Thanks a lot.
The eye can hardly be feasted on a lightly-worked, palely-coloured sketch' of something more 'stylish' than committed. And vividness won't sustain us. Even so, as far as UK efforts go, I do like to view Rupert Bear
Thank you Pete. Love your investigative work. Hi from Newcastle Australia mate. What about Edward Pagram!? I can't seem to find anything and his book "Never had it so good" has influenced me immensely. I would really appreciate anything you may find sir! Cheers and hooroo for now.....🤙
Hello and thanks for the comment. I'd never heard of Edward Pagram but his work looks very distinctive. I won't be able to feature him in the unsung heroes series as he was born too late. (1910 is the cut off date of birth). But if I can find an excuse to feature him in some other context I will. Either way I'm grateful for the info.
Hello and thanks a lot. Tgis one is a personal favourite but doesn;t get too many views as it seems most of my viewers are from the other side of the Atlantic.
@@petebeard I found your posts only yesterday and am enjoying them. They are a welcome respite from the dreary discord of our day and age. (I'm in California, by the way.)
TS 2:11 here in the US we had bubble gum blocks w/baseball player/s photos on cards in them...also, tea came w/green glasses & oatmeal w/cups & bowls...I have a few of these dishes to this day....well made not the ceramic junk they make now days😊
Hello and thanks. The world of collection is not something I'm all that familiar with as I've never had or bought any images of value. But if the work you have is the original artwork as opposed to the printed outcome I would guess it would have value in those circles. My best suggestion is to contact an illustration gallery such as Chris beetles and see if you get any interest for what you have. But go carefully - I suspect that there may well be shark infested waters when it comes to the value of such items. Best of luck and sorry I can't be of much help.
@@petebeard it is original artwork but not an illustration, instead a framed mosaic piece of about 20 kilos in weight. Maybe Chris Beetles knows something. Thanks though for the reply.
Hello and thanks a lot for both your recent comments. And I would have loved to make each of these much longer and featured the work of others but sadly average viewing time is only about 7-8 minutes. The attention span of the young (and others it seems) is not what it might be. And I particularly want to reach them as I know the quality of higher education in this subject is abysmal.
Pete, thanks for the response. It’s Easy to say nice things about your work. Clean, unbiased, great pacing…keep it up new friend. What fascinates me with these vintage illustrations is something I can’t quite explain. It’s almost like the colors, especially red, or the lines have a period life of their own. I ponder if the era produced the images or the images produced the era? So… My chief focus is on vintage beer advertising. Countless times I have seen ads that featured the image of my father. His hunting, his clothes, his pipe, his beer…so that got me thinking…which came first, my father or the imagery?
Hello and I'm pleased to hear a thumbs up for Fraser. And I suspect you're familiar with Searle because he did quite a few New Yorker covers in the 60s and 70s.
Thanks for this. Could maybe have included Frank Wootton (aviation and commercial artist), Margaret Tempest (illustrator for Alison Uttley's children's books), British Railways poster artists of the time, Line illustration work for GPO phone book covers and Radio Times (apart from Eric Fraser) .....
Ha ha - only mention these because they've stuck in the memory from a childhood in the '50s! Talented artists who could actually draw.... Maybe you could do a Part 2 sometime ?
Hello again and another viewer of a certain age has lamented the absence of Rupert Bear. I'll happily take on board the idea of a second instalment, but it will be joining an alarmingly long queue of subjects I need to cover before old age gets the better of me. Thanks again for the appreciation.
Hi there Peter When my Father was poorly in hospital for the last time - I took Dad few issues of 'War Picture Library' - Dad fought in WW2 like alot of fathers -I ended up taking alot of those books for Dad - I kept him well stocked up of reading matter - A lot more than 1/6 d now a days though ? Dad love Andy Capp & the perishers - When I worked on the wards on the annual move around i was moved to a geriatric ward wihich is not a nice name ! -A ward for the older end -My boss from a previous ward had quested me - He said that is your first job ? On the wall he had a giant Nobo Board ? -A write on wipe off sort of thing ? Initally it was there for Day date etc Mothers day - Fathers day - St Georges day stuff like that ? & it wasnt being utillised properly - So apart my usual ward duties that was my baby too ! - Every mornying I would copy the Andy Capp cartoon on a very large scale ! - Plus the Day Date & what ever special day it was ? -Also If staff were leaving I 'd do characatures & a ward message ! Love your videos - They ard so informative bring back some great memories for me ? - Thankyou !
Hello and that's a good subject which I will add to the list. I don't know if you have seen it but I made a series on French illustrators and the third in the series does cover a few from the 50s.
@@petebeard I had seen your series on French illustrators and after watching your videos on British and American illustrators I thought you could make it a trilogy of videos by covering France in the same period.
You don't sound old enough to have read most of these. Seriously though these videos are really totally enjoyable and informative, especially the picture research.
@@petebeard Well, your comments reveal that we are similar in age and I find your material, approach and presentation really engaging. It is an aspect of the visual arts that I neglected in the fiction context but always found attractive since childhood. Some of those books from the 1930's and into the 40's and 50's were really fascinating. Their influence on my later work has been made obvious through your videos.
Man , I near forgot about the Tea cards I remember getting them from my Gran and reading the Ladybird books , Giles was hilarious with his true assent on facial expression in the multiple subjects of his Cartoons , my favorite being a Naked bowler hat'd Civil servant up before a Judge with the Judges no2 saying to him " Come off it Harry the Death Sentence for Streaking is a bit Thick ". an expression I like using even now , the War Library and Commando were my teen staple diet with outstanding covers , stories and Artwork..but I could never stand Paddington Bear..great vid.
Hello and thanks for your recent comments and subscription. Sounds like you're the same generation as me, and seeing Giles' cartoons in my Dad's newspaper was one of the things that set me off drawing funny pictures in the first place. Never did equal his talent though...
Hello and now you mention it there is some similarity. And thanks for the positive reponse to my musical meandering. I didn't have a clue who this Napilitano person was. I dont think her band had much impact over here, or maybe I'm even more out of touch than I thought.
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. I didn't know Marshall had illustrated those books but I remember them from my youth - my mother was a Cartland fan.
Nice to see Eric Fraser’s work in this selection! But... no mention of Frank Bellamy? If you were looking for a comparison or crossover between U.S. and Brit art in the Fifties and early Sixties, Bellamy is your man. Even his early work demonstrates a dynamic that more than stands up against American illustration and by the time he had hit his stride in Eagle with “Heros the Spartan” there wasn’t an American comic book artist that could touch him, with the exception of Frank Frazetta.
Hello and thanks for watching. I know Bellamy was active in the 50s but he was relatively peripheral until the sixties when he took over Dan Dare from Hampson, and created the Spartan series you mention. I can't include everybody's favourite in these relatively short videos, and in this case if it was a video about the 60s he would have been included.
Honestly, you absolutely forgot about Quentin Blake. He is best known for his illustrations for Roald Dahl's children's books, and when it comes to his art work, he used ink and watercolor and the strokes are scribbly and childish that added to the charm and magic to the books such as "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", "The BFG", "Fantastic Mr. Fox", "The Witches", and "Matilda".
Hi again. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I didn't forget Quentin Blake. His first illustrated book was published in 1961 and although he had occasional drawings published in Punch as far as the 50s goes he simply wasn't (yet) a contender.
Hello Gary. I'm cursing myself because although I've been aware of Sheppard for far too many years I forgot to include him in the British 1950s video. And he was born too late (after 1910) to qualify for the unsung series. But he is duly noted and I'll try to get him in somewhere in a future video.
@@petebeard Another illustrator I liked from the 1960's was Maurice Wilson, who painted the Brooke Bond prehistoric animal cards. He also did an illustrated book call "Zoo Birds" published by Puffin.
@@garymcguire8529 Hi again and I was completely unaware of Maurice Wilson. Again he was born too late but he's been filed for future use. Thanks a lot.
I came across Sheppard last year by accident. He illustrated a children's story called Patrick that was written by a woman who lived in a house that was built by my ancestors. He was a member of the Chelsea Arts Club as were several generations of my family, and they must have known Sheppard personally. I have not yet come across Pete Beard's video on him, if it has been made.
@@jmtubbs1639 Have not yet seen a video on Raymond Sheppard, but there is a large book out, of his work and background. Some of his , "How To Draw books " have been reprinted, from the 1940'S.
These are ‘Graphics’ that’s how I was told to refer that surrounded me at an early age, barbers,doctors, shops,seaside kiosks,everywhere little did I know it was instilling a fondness of Art... but it was true it was everywhere,cinema especially and teachers would say refer to what you’re looking at as Graphics so we understand. It’s not around today in quite that way or that standard which I find disappointing. SeedyBananas 🤟
Hi Andy and thanks for your comments, and the whole art/graphics/illustration thing is really only a problem because art disappeared up its own ideology. I don't see much difference between a great painting or a great illustration. But I have to confess I'm more usually found on the side of illustration simply because it has a function, which is always to be clearly understood so it can do its job. Over and out - for now...
Hello and yes, one of many who didn't make it through to the finished video. I'd make them longer and more inclusive but as it is average viewing time is about half the length of any given video. I blame the young.
@@petebeard Actually, I think his versatility and range warrants a video of his own. He was an influence when I was a young art student in the sixties.
@@rdjazzboy1944 Hello again and that's a very welcome suggestion. Consider him added to the list, but a caveat - it's a terrifyingly long list of works in progress, so we'll have to hope I live longer than I deserve to, given my past habits.
Hello, and thanks for the comment. If you are an admirer of Ardizzone's work he features at greater length in unsung heroes of illustration 21 on the channel.
@@2degucitas If by modern you mean young then hardly any at all. It's my generation (the old) who remember it with great fondness. But I still think if done properly a film could be successful.
@@2degucitasHello again and unfortunately the rights to the contents of the Eagle are held by IPCmagazines, so yes there would be huge copyright problems trying to do anything with Dan Dare without coughing up a large amount of money and their permission.
Hello and sadly you're right. In fact it's long gone and unlikely to ever return. Magazines, books and advertising have all turned to photography for their visuals.
My grade 5 teacher read Enid Blyton to us in 🇨🇦 and wouldn't allow interruptions so I was left picturing the 5 children exploring with "torches" which to me meant a stick with burning tar on the end. I couldn't figure out how they turned them on and off! I also love the Paddington illustrations but find the stories repetitive and the characters flat.
Interesting. Especially your take on Frank Hampson. You are probably right he was better than contemporary Americans - except maybe Warren Tufts and if you don't know the artist behind Casey Ruggles and Lance he's definitely worth looking at whether or not he's better than Hampson. I don't believe you've done Frank Bellamy, have you?
Hello and thanks for pointing me in the direction of Warren Tufts. I'd never heard of him, although casey Ruggles rings a dim and distant bell. No I haven't done Frank Bellamy - he came on the scenr too late (early 60s) to feature in this one. And sadly he was born too lateto qualify fr the unsung heroes series -1910 is the cut-off. But I'm sure I'll find a reason to include him. I was briefly represented by the same agent as him, and proud to be in such company. It didnt last....
Brilliant, Pete. I've been working my way slowly through your many videos and greatly enjoyed them all. Informative, well written and read, with a wonderful choice of background music. They're such a contrast to the vast majority of shouty, in-your-face videos that seem to be all the rage these days. Just hoping you don't run out of subjects too soon. Many thanks...
Hello David and many thanks for your appreciation of the channel. iIt's particularly rewarding that you favour my deliberately low-key approach. I have hated gimmicky presentation ever since the BBC first started using computer graphics. And regarding subjects I have to say on current showing I'm more likely to fall off my perch than run out of subjects for videos. I still have more to do than I've already done.
Another great video, thanks. I was familiar with Rowland Emett and Ronald Searle from a fifties collection of _Punch_ cartoons I grew up with in California, and Andy Capp was pretty well known too, but all the others were new to me. A lot of their work reminds me of illustrations (mostly ads) done by my late father-in-law, who was also a skilled illustrator.
Looking forward to watching more of your fascinating histories. Cheers from cloudy Vienna, Scott
Thank you for this wonderful and detailed history. Such a thrill.
Absolutely fascinating! Perfectly presented and incredibly detailed descriptions. May I suggest one kind of graphic art you haven't yet covered, the cover illustrations of paperbacks? In the 50s and 60s they were far superior to the rather abstract and dull covers of today.
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. And the subject of the evolution of book covers (both dustjackets and paperback) has been on my bucket list for some time, and if I don't fall off my perch any time soon your wish will be my command. But it's a long list so I have no idea when....
@@petebeard Thanks for that! Will await your findings with interest (hoping I don't fall off my perch either).
I second his idea.
Than you, for the trip down memory lane.
Hello and thanks for your appreciation. This video worked that way for me too. Abother world.
OMG I had completely forgotten about tea cards!! I do remember hiding teabags to hurry up the next trip to Morrisons. Thank you 😊
Hello and the simple tgings that used to keep people amused back then seem so strange now. I can still remember the excitement of collecting a whole series and pasting them in a book.
Great, some of my favourites towards the end many who decorated the old Radio Times.
Hi again, and in what passed for my own career I did a lot of work for the RT during the 80s. And despite the fact they paid peanuts and always had insanely short deadlines I thought (incorrectly) that I had made the big time. Such is life.
As a keen painter born in London in 1953, I found this overview, nostalgic and fascinating. Brilliant video. Thanks!
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. I ouldn;t resist watching your seed painting video and I must say I'm envious of your ability. I never could paint properly which is why I favoured ink and watercolour in my working days.
Damn, that brought back some memories from my youth…
Hello and thanks for the comment. It was serious memory lane stuff for me too. How come I can remember all that but not where I've put my glasses?
@@petebeard They’re on your head! :)
Thanks for another great Video Pete. Keep them coming please.
Man that was terrific - many many thanks!
I'm just catching on on these, and it is a great series! Thanks, indeed. I do feel the need to point out that Andy Capp is not a Geordie -- he's from Hartlepool, which is another thing entirely!
Hello and thanks for your appreciation and subscription.Apologies for the regional blunder. I'm surprised I even used the term geordie as the vast majority of viewers are American and wouldnt have a clue what the term means. Mea culpa.
... down memory lane...
Hello again and very much so for me. I was born in 1950 and some of these images are the earliest I can remember.
Wonderful!
Those videos are so good!! So many amazing artists I have never heard about before! Thank you.
Thanks for the positive feedback. It's good to be appreciated. More in the pipeline.
Love your videos, this is what YT is for! - I loved finding out about these artists, many of whom I knew visually.
Hello and thanks a lot for your positive response to the channel. I'm glad you appreciate the content.
Thank you for all your posts. I love them all.
Hi and thanks very much for your positive comment. Not exactly viral so I can take all the encouragement I can get. Cheers
That's sad because they are well done and enjoyable. I have been posting them to Facebook so others can watch them. Thank you for all your posts.
Absolutely wonderful !
Hello and I'm really pleased you enjoyed it. It's one of my personal favourites.
Thank you for making this! Very well done.
Thanks for your positive comment. This video is far from the most popular of the ones I've done but I always thought it was one of the best. Maybe because I remember it all from growing up in the 50s. Either way thanks
Your RUclips channel is an absolute delight! I'm so happy to have found it and look forward to watching everything you've posted. Thank you.
Hello and positive feedback such as yours really do make my day. I hope you'll continue to find things you like - and maybe even subscribe?
Thank you so much for this brilliantly put-together and narrated documentary about our British illustrators from an artist’s point of view! Wonderful !!!!!
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. It has to be said this isn't one of my more popular videos. Its American counterpart does a lot better undoubtedly because the great majority of viewers are in the USA. But it's still one of my favourite videos.
I'm enjoying these videos a lot! Those pocket sized war comics eventually made their way to Scandinavia and they were a big part of my childhood in the '70s. There were two very well drawn magazines in regular publishing, one air force (featuring the adventures of Battler Britton, I remember) and one army. And also at least two other magazines, similar but with less impressive artwork. Odd that even though I was born in 1968 I was so emerged in entertainment from one or two generations before me. Tarzan movies and Flash Gordon serials in black and white for instance. And passed down books of boys' adventures from the '30s.
Hello and I'm pleased that you are enjoying the channel content. Those comics were part of the fabric of my childhood too (born in 1950), and the illustrators didnt get anything like the credit they deserved. I think there's a website for british comics where you can download full copies of some of the comics. I hope you continue to find material that's of interest.
The perfect anatomy mastering. Such extraordinary illustrations era. Loving it !
Hello and thanks for your comment
Thank you so much for this amazing video!
Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. I have no idea why but at last this video seems to be getting more attention.
I have just stumbled across your videos. Great subject matter and thoroughly enjoyable. Thank you.
Hello and many thanks for stumbling and appreciating.
I have only recently been introduced to this wonderful series of videos and am thoroughly enjoying them. This one especially nostalgic as I started work as a studio trainee in 1962, and most of the reference books we had were from the 50s. The images and illustrations of that era have always stayed with me and continue to interest me.
P.S. Would have like to have seen some Rupert Bear work, though.
Hello again and thanks a lot, and it's nice to have a viewer even older than I am by the sound of things. And I agree Rupert was an oversight - and others too many to list - but there's only so much you can cram into less than a quarter of an hour, and many of my viewers seem to have distressingy short attention spans.
Delightful and for me nostalgic stroll through 50s British illustration... especially for children's comics and books.
Hello and it was very much a memory lane job for me when I made this one. It's how the world looked as I grew up. I wanted to make a counterbalance for the video about the USA in the same period. Different worlds...
Excellent👍lots of good memories
Hello again and thanks a lot. What a different world it was.
Wow , I used to collect the tea cards and the battle comics the art work is fantastic in these , thanks for the memories 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Hello and so did I. With hindsight collecting cards so you could stick them in a book doesn't seem like much fun, but I recall getting very excited by the prospect of a new pack of tea to tear asunder for the card. We must be about the same age.
Pete, thanks for your time to explain the history of illustration, I sure appreciate learning this information.
Hello and many thanks for your comment. I appreciate the appreciation.
Nothing like British illustrators and British humor.
I can't argue with that, but then I'm biased.
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I still have my "Thelwell 's Horsebox" from childhood. Since then, I've put together a large collection of Thelwell's books. He was definitely a favorite of "horse girls" like me. :) Otherwise, I know almost nothing about British illustrators of this period. As always, an informative and delightful video. Thanks!
Hi again and thanks for your appreciation of this pair of videos, which I rather thought made an interesting contrast of our respective popular cultures in that period. Sadly not many viewers showed interest in both. As I grew up Thelwell was everywhere, and I loved his pen and watercolour technique.
@@petebeard well, I'm going to keep watching. Every one of your videos is an education. :) As to Thelwell, as much as I love his color work, I think I love his pen & ink work more. His line work is very concise and solid. Quite excellent, really.
Fascinating, Pete! Gosh, I haven't seen pictures of so many books from my childhood for I don't know how long!
Hello and thanks. It had the same 'memory lane' effect on me too. As a nipper I was far too engrossed with comics to pay most of these illustratros any attention but now I'm old I really appreciate their work.
@@petebeard 😊 Well, thank you so much for that trip down Memory Lane, Pete! And for all your hard work making and sharing these videos. 🙏🏻
thanks for the videos, greetings from Chile!!!
Hello from England and thanks a lot for your appreciation
TS 2:58 an illustration for a book by Daphne du Maurier...luv her *Birds* & the autobiography about her father
My new favourite channel.
In just over 14 minutes you managed to squeeze in a ton of favourites including, Francis Marshall, Eric Fraser, Bawden, Emmet and Searle, Sherriffs and Tunnicliffe.
Honourable mentions for others like, Ravillious, Sheppard, Hilder and Frank Bellamy?
Hello again and thanks for the tip-off regarding Julius Glipkens. I've covered others of his ilk such as Julius Klinger but this chap slipped through my radar so I'll investigate further. It all depends whether I can find enough visual material and biographical info to make a feature. And the names you suggest from Britain in the 50s all resonate, but when the videos are so short something/someone has to be left out. As it is all the videos ended up far longer than intended (average attention span is apparently just over 8 minutes). And as a matter of interest may I enquire about your background? Not many have your breadth and depth of knowledge on the subject and I'm just being nosey about how you connect with illustration.
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Hi Pete. As a sometime illustrator, artist but mainly (semi obsessive) fan of illustration comics and art. I was struck by the way you zeroed in on so many important illustrators across the scene. To be knowledgable about the (mainly Spanish) artists of the Battle Picture Library and also aware of Frank Wooton, Arthur Ferrier and Bob Sherriffs suggests an equally obsessive outlook. To also be aware of Dean Cornwall, Saul Tepper, Leyendecker , Perry Peterson or even Alex Toth suggests way too much time spent researching. But that, I fear, is the curse of the enthusiast.
Thanks again. A wonderful overview of the talent that flourished then. I grew up with artists from the 60s and 70s, such as Ron Embleton, Angus McBride, and Don Lawrence (mainly from reading Look and Learn). Do you have any plans to cover them in a video? (Maybe you have and I haven't found it yet).
@UCEP5zb_eXvX2q2BlH8XkXNA No pressure at all, those artists just crossed my mind as I was commenting, there were a few good talents about in the 60s and 70s, servicing comics and magazines.
Another excellent video, Pete.
Marcellous and enriching as ever- I am particularly fond of Rowland Emmett who's a new discovery for me. Somewhat reminds me of Claude Ponti (who was a major part of my and a lot of French kids childhood) in terms of whimsicality and invitation to explore the crazy constructions!
As an art student I can't thank you enough for providing some light into the of neglected part that illustration takes in art history!
Hi and thanks for watching - and enjoying the videos. And another hanky for introducing me to the work of Claude Ponti - an illustrator I didn't know existed. Now I feel guilty for not including him in my history of french illustration...
@@petebeard Pish posh- one can't catch em all in one video! Keep the good stuff going though!
I appreciate this video, sir. As an American artist & former illustrator, I've long known of the greats of my land--McGinnis, Whitcomb, Moran, cartoonists like McManus, Eisner, McCay, etc. But apart from Ronald Searle, I didn't know much about British illustration & cartooning prior to the computer era. (Shameful to admit but in my defense, I do know a bit more about medieval & pre-Renaissance Britain than most people stateside) Anyway, this is most educational & I enjoyed watching. Some of Frances Marshall's work looks rather similar to what I do these days in ink & brush.
Took a snapshot of the credits...now I can look up a few examples of British talent. And I will!
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation. I think the syndrome you refer to affects everyone, and I can't tell you how many discoveries I've made while making these videos. The internet may have its faults but the wealth of visual material that can be found from even quite obscure countries never fails to astonish me. If you want more British illustrators there are many featured in the unsung heroes series and some solo videos too. Searle is very much waiting his turn. And I took great pleasure in watching some of your videos - nice to see someone using pen,ink and brush. I started out that way but ended up digital , which with hindsight I sort of regret.
Hey, Pete! This is a blast. It is because of lunatics like these that I became an artist, graphic designer, Art Director and Creative Director for a few of the biggest ad agencies, BSB Bates WorldWide, Young and Rubicam, DDB Needham etc. Thanks, Pete for the MEMORIES!
Hello and many thanks for the comments. It's always particularly appreciated when the praise comes from viewers who have been or are in the business.
Very enjoyable. Who drew Garth, popular strip in the Daily Mirror, missing from your video ?
Hello and thanks for the appreciation. Unfortunately the nature - and length - of these 'overview' videos means that many are left on the virtual cutting room floor. I could make them longer and include more illustrators, but as it is average viewing time for a typical video is only half it's actual length. Attention spans aren't what they used to be.
I was born in '59 and grew up with so many of these wonderful artists and a favourite Annual eevery Christmas from my parents was 'Rupert the Bear' illustrated by Mary Tourtel. Sadly you missed out one of the TOP artists of the time, Alfred Bestall! As i grew up i was influenced by his work and did my own drawings and watercolours. I used these in a childrens book I wrote and illustrated in 1986 - sadly no one would publish it....BUT One pubisher has since asked me to convert the book into a graphic novel, which they said they WILL publish. Great video and memories. Thank You.
Hello and thanks for your appreciation. And apologies for leaving out Rupert. Unfortunately when making overviews such as this I end up leaving out many more than are actually included. I might have to make a part 2. Good luck with your graphic novel but I advise caution...in my experience publishers and sharks are hard to differentiate.
So many memories Pete. You have an uncanny knowledge and incredible access to so many beautiful illustrations. This episode was an absolute delight. I paused it many times to look closer at the wizardry of the illustrators. Where did they find the time? Thanks once again. Best wishes.
Hello and many thanks for your appreciation. This video is a particular favourite of mine as it covers the world I grew up in, and a lot of what's shown made a serious impression on me when I eventually became an illustrator.
Francis Marshall also designed all Barbara Cartland's covers.
Giles, a childhood favourite.
According to a story my mother used to tell, when asked as a little kid what I wanted to be when I grew up, my answer was 'Giles'. How I loved his cartoons in the Express. And if only I could have been that good.
@@petebeard Dad bought several yearbooks that I loved to pore over.
Both Searle and Giles were popular here in Denmark, and rightly so! That old, rather frightening grandma of Giles' has been a lifelong inspiration to me. Thank you for doing such a brilliant job!
Hello and thanks a lot for your comment, and I admire both greatly.
I noticed you mentioning the Danish artist Arne Ungerman. You might also want to look up the following Danish illustrators: Robert Storm Petersen, Aage Sikker Hansen, Bo Bojesen, Claus Deleuran, Per Marquard Otzen - they're good! Again: thank you, I enjoy your excellent work.
@@dortebuttenschn3764 Hello again and thanks for those names. I already have Petersen and Sikker Hansen waiting in line for future instalments, and of course Tenggren and Nielsen have already appeared, but the others I had never heard of. Thanks a lot.
The eye can hardly be feasted on a lightly-worked, palely-coloured sketch' of something more 'stylish' than committed. And vividness won't sustain us. Even so, as far as UK efforts go, I do like to view Rupert Bear
Thank you Pete. Love your investigative work. Hi from Newcastle Australia mate.
What about Edward Pagram!? I can't seem to find anything and his book "Never had it so good" has influenced me immensely. I would really appreciate anything you may find sir! Cheers and hooroo for now.....🤙
Hello and thanks for the comment. I'd never heard of Edward Pagram but his work looks very distinctive. I won't be able to feature him in the unsung heroes series as he was born too late. (1910 is the cut off date of birth). But if I can find an excuse to feature him in some other context I will. Either way I'm grateful for the info.
Excellent!
Hello and thanks a lot. Tgis one is a personal favourite but doesn;t get too many views as it seems most of my viewers are from the other side of the Atlantic.
@@petebeard I found your posts only yesterday and am enjoying them. They are a welcome respite from the dreary discord of our day and age. (I'm in California, by the way.)
TS 2:11 here in the US we had bubble gum blocks w/baseball player/s photos on cards in them...also, tea came w/green glasses & oatmeal w/cups & bowls...I have a few of these dishes to this day....well made not the ceramic junk they make now days😊
Every time I watch a video I end up watching 10 in a row
Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. And I wish everyone did that - it'd make a fair old difference to my views..
Nice one Pete, you mentioned Hans Unger, Is his work collectable as I have some and would love to know.
Hello and thanks. The world of collection is not something I'm all that familiar with as I've never had or bought any images of value. But if the work you have is the original artwork as opposed to the printed outcome I would guess it would have value in those circles. My best suggestion is to contact an illustration gallery such as Chris beetles and see if you get any interest for what you have. But go carefully - I suspect that there may well be shark infested waters when it comes to the value of such items. Best of luck and sorry I can't be of much help.
@@petebeard it is original artwork but not an illustration, instead a framed mosaic piece of about 20 kilos in weight.
Maybe Chris Beetles knows something.
Thanks though for the reply.
Peter, wonderful again.
Hello and thanks a lot for both your recent comments. And I would have loved to make each of these much longer and featured the work of others but sadly average viewing time is only about 7-8 minutes. The attention span of the young (and others it seems) is not what it might be. And I particularly want to reach them as I know the quality of higher education in this subject is abysmal.
Pete, thanks for the response. It’s Easy to say nice things about your work. Clean, unbiased, great pacing…keep it up new friend.
What fascinates me with these vintage illustrations is something I can’t quite explain. It’s almost like the colors, especially red, or the lines have a period life of their own. I ponder if the era produced the images or the images produced the era?
So… My chief focus is on vintage beer advertising. Countless times I have seen ads that featured the image of my father. His hunting, his clothes, his pipe, his beer…so that got me thinking…which came first, my father or the imagery?
excellent video - but no mention of the rev. awdry railway series
Hello Paul and my gratitude as ever. Glad you're still with the channel.
Most of the names are new, but I definitely remember seeing much of Searle, or at least of work in his style. But my favorite here is Fraser.
Hello and I'm pleased to hear a thumbs up for Fraser. And I suspect you're familiar with Searle because he did quite a few New Yorker covers in the 60s and 70s.
Thanks for this. Could maybe have included Frank Wootton (aviation and commercial artist),
Margaret Tempest (illustrator for Alison Uttley's children's books), British Railways poster artists of the time, Line illustration work for GPO phone book covers and Radio Times (apart from Eric Fraser) .....
Thanks for the comment. And unfortunately when making videos such as this many more illustrators are inevitably left out than are included.
Ha ha - only mention these because they've stuck in the memory from a
childhood in the '50s! Talented artists who could actually draw.... Maybe you could do a Part 2 sometime ?
Hello again and another viewer of a certain age has lamented the absence of Rupert Bear. I'll happily take on board the idea of a second instalment, but it will be joining an alarmingly long queue of subjects I need to cover before old age gets the better of me. Thanks again for the appreciation.
Yes, sorry about this! How could one forget the Rupert Bear stories, drawn mostly by Alfred Bestall, with their evocative landscape settings.....
Hi there Peter When my Father was poorly in hospital for the last time - I took Dad few issues of 'War Picture Library' - Dad fought in WW2 like alot of fathers -I ended up taking alot of those books for Dad - I kept him well stocked up of reading matter - A lot more than 1/6 d now a days though ?
Dad love Andy Capp & the perishers - When I worked on the wards on the annual move around i was moved to a geriatric ward wihich is not a nice name ! -A ward for the older end -My boss from a previous ward had quested me - He said that is your first job ? On the wall he had a giant Nobo Board ? -A write on wipe off sort of thing ? Initally it was there for Day date etc Mothers day - Fathers day - St Georges day stuff like that ? & it wasnt being utillised properly - So apart my usual ward duties that was my baby too ! - Every mornying I would copy the Andy Capp cartoon on a very large scale ! - Plus the Day Date & what ever special day it was ? -Also
If staff were leaving I 'd do characatures & a ward message !
Love your videos - They ard so informative bring back some great memories for me ? - Thankyou !
Pete, please make a video on 1950's french illustrators.
Hello and that's a good subject which I will add to the list. I don't know if you have seen it but I made a series on French illustrators and the third in the series does cover a few from the 50s.
@@petebeard I had seen your series on French illustrators and after watching your videos on British and American illustrators I thought you could make it a trilogy of videos by covering France in the same period.
You don't sound old enough to have read most of these. Seriously though these videos are really totally enjoyable and informative, especially the picture research.
I look (and feel) older than I sound, unfortunately. And thanks a lot for your positive comment.
@@petebeard Well, your comments reveal that we are similar in age and I find your material, approach and presentation really engaging. It is an aspect of the visual arts that I neglected in the fiction context but always found attractive since childhood. Some of those books from the 1930's and into the 40's and 50's were really fascinating. Their influence on my later work has been made obvious through your videos.
Man , I near forgot about the Tea cards I remember getting them from my Gran and reading the Ladybird books , Giles was hilarious with his true assent on facial expression in the multiple subjects of his Cartoons , my favorite being a Naked bowler hat'd Civil servant up before a Judge with the Judges no2 saying to him " Come off it Harry the Death Sentence for Streaking is a bit Thick ". an expression I like using even now , the War Library and Commando were my teen staple diet with outstanding covers , stories and Artwork..but I could never stand Paddington Bear..great vid.
Hello and thanks for your recent comments and subscription. Sounds like you're the same generation as me, and seeing Giles' cartoons in my Dad's newspaper was one of the things that set me off drawing funny pictures in the first place. Never did equal his talent though...
5:55 Rowland Emmett's work reminds me of Salvador Dali's wash drawings.
Hello and now you mention it there is some similarity. And thanks for the positive reponse to my musical meandering. I didn't have a clue who this Napilitano person was. I dont think her band had much impact over here, or maybe I'm even more out of touch than I thought.
Goodness - but this is _interesting_ !
Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. I didn't know Marshall had illustrated those books but I remember them from my youth - my mother was a Cartland fan.
Nice to see Eric Fraser’s work in this selection!
But... no mention of Frank Bellamy? If you were looking for a comparison or crossover between U.S. and Brit art in the Fifties and early Sixties, Bellamy is your man. Even his early work demonstrates a dynamic that more than stands up against American illustration and by the time he had hit his stride in Eagle with “Heros the Spartan” there wasn’t an American comic book artist that could touch him, with the exception of Frank Frazetta.
Hello and thanks for watching. I know Bellamy was active in the 50s but he was relatively peripheral until the sixties when he took over Dan Dare from Hampson, and created the Spartan series you mention. I can't include everybody's favourite in these relatively short videos, and in this case if it was a video about the 60s he would have been included.
Honestly, you absolutely forgot about Quentin Blake. He is best known for his illustrations for Roald Dahl's children's books, and when it comes to his art work, he used ink and watercolor and the strokes are scribbly and childish that added to the charm and magic to the books such as "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", "The BFG", "Fantastic Mr. Fox", "The Witches", and "Matilda".
Hi again. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I didn't forget Quentin Blake. His first illustrated book was published in 1961 and although he had occasional drawings published in Punch as far as the 50s goes he simply wasn't (yet) a contender.
@@petebeard I do understand. Thank you.
I found your Charles F Tunnicliffe , which I loved. Have you heard of Raymond Sheppard?
Hello Gary. I'm cursing myself because although I've been aware of Sheppard for far too many years I forgot to include him in the British 1950s video. And he was born too late (after 1910) to qualify for the unsung series. But he is duly noted and I'll try to get him in somewhere in a future video.
@@petebeard Another illustrator I liked from the 1960's was Maurice Wilson, who painted the Brooke Bond prehistoric animal cards. He also did an illustrated book call "Zoo Birds" published by Puffin.
@@garymcguire8529 Hi again and I was completely unaware of Maurice Wilson. Again he was born too late but he's been filed for future use. Thanks a lot.
I came across Sheppard last year by accident. He illustrated a children's story called Patrick that was written by a woman who lived in a house that was built by my ancestors. He was a member of the Chelsea Arts Club as were several generations of my family, and they must have known Sheppard personally. I have not yet come across Pete Beard's video on him, if it has been made.
@@jmtubbs1639 Have not yet seen a video on Raymond Sheppard, but there is a large book out, of his work and background.
Some of his , "How To Draw books " have been reprinted, from the 1940'S.
These are ‘Graphics’ that’s how I was told to refer that surrounded me at an early age, barbers,doctors, shops,seaside kiosks,everywhere little did I know it was instilling a fondness of Art... but it was true it was everywhere,cinema especially and teachers would say refer to what you’re looking at as Graphics so we understand. It’s not around today in quite that way or that standard which I find disappointing. SeedyBananas 🤟
Hi Andy and thanks for your comments, and the whole art/graphics/illustration thing is really only a problem because art disappeared up its own ideology. I don't see much difference between a great painting or a great illustration. But I have to confess I'm more usually found on the side of illustration simply because it has a function, which is always to be clearly understood so it can do its job. Over and out - for now...
What about Charles Keeping? He was brilliant.
Hello and yes, one of many who didn't make it through to the finished video. I'd make them longer and more inclusive but as it is average viewing time is about half the length of any given video. I blame the young.
@@petebeard Actually, I think his versatility and range warrants a video of his own. He was an influence when I was a young art student in the sixties.
@@rdjazzboy1944 Hello again and that's a very welcome suggestion. Consider him added to the list, but a caveat - it's a terrifyingly long list of works in progress, so we'll have to hope I live longer than I deserve to, given my past habits.
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i loved my ardizzone bookz, i wizh i'd had that welzh woman'z onez too (well it'z with 'enyz tregarthen')
Hello, and thanks for the comment. If you are an admirer of Ardizzone's work he features at greater length in unsung heroes of illustration 21 on the channel.
Love War Picture Library
Thanks for the comment. I grew up on those comics.
Has there been a Dan Dare movie?
Hello and not to the best of my knowledge. But in the right hands that could be a great antidote to the modern garbage that's out there in movieland.
@@petebeard How well known is Dan Dare to modern Brits?
@@2degucitas If by modern you mean young then hardly any at all. It's my generation (the old) who remember it with great fondness. But I still think if done properly a film could be successful.
@@petebeard Is the comic book company that printed it still in existence? Are there copyright issues?
@@2degucitasHello again and unfortunately the rights to the contents of the Eagle are held by IPCmagazines, so yes there would be huge copyright problems trying to do anything with Dan Dare without coughing up a large amount of money and their permission.
Thanks! That's a disappearing culture, is it not?
Hello and sadly you're right. In fact it's long gone and unlikely to ever return. Magazines, books and advertising have all turned to photography for their visuals.
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Like Eric Fraser
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Thanks a lot for your appreciation.
Interesting. Especially your take on Frank Hampson. You are probably right he was better than contemporary Americans - except maybe Warren Tufts and if you don't know the artist behind Casey Ruggles and Lance he's definitely worth looking at whether or not he's better than Hampson. I don't believe you've done Frank Bellamy, have you?
Hello and thanks for pointing me in the direction of Warren Tufts. I'd never heard of him, although casey Ruggles rings a dim and distant bell. No I haven't done Frank Bellamy - he came on the scenr too late (early 60s) to feature in this one. And sadly he was born too lateto qualify fr the unsung heroes series -1910 is the cut-off. But I'm sure I'll find a reason to include him. I was briefly represented by the same agent as him, and proud to be in such company. It didnt last....