Playcalling on 3rd and 4th down and the olines inability to open holes and sustain blocks. Cleveland was stacking 8 in the box, and we ran right into it over and over.
THANK YOU BRO!!!!!!!😢 IM SO UP TIGHT IM CALLING THE PLAY FROM , 1st DOWN WATCH THEY RUN IT. NEG PLAY 80% OF THE TIME, IT MAKES ME SO MAD IF I KNOW IT THE WHOLE STADIUM KNOWS IT ,WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEFENSE COORDINATOR DOESN'T KNOW IT... I NEVER THOUGHT OUR OC WAS THE BEST PICK. 4&1 JUST LET'S TRY A QB SNEAK A PUSH OR SOMETHING, WE KEEP PLAYING LIKE THIS I CAN SEE US GOING ON A LOOSING STREAK. SMDH 😢
Yes !!!! Thank you we have to do better with our play calling...or we gonna be embarrassed 😢 can't make a 4&1 our we are ready for a s.b run this year.?😮. He need to go now, Mike T call the plays ANDY REED K.C COACH.
All these Steelers need are blue and neon green unis and I would swear they were the 2016 Seahawks. Stifling themselves with poor play-calling and mediocre O-Line play. And the Justin Fields e perimeter needs to stop. It’s hurting the offense. It disrupts Russ and the offense.
@@dakidhandz: Agreed! They lost a very winnable game. I thought Arthur Smith was supposed to be a good O.C. They need to get Brian Schottenheimer in there once McCarthy is fired from Dallas. He had Russ running an e plosive offense that couldn’t be stopped. He only got fired from Seattle because it exposed Pete Carroll’s poor coaching on defense. Russ was putting up Manning-type numbers.
The play calling was weak! Also, the official no calls on several ovious pass interference helped cleveland Browns. I will say it again need new strength & conditioning coach; along with OL coach.
Uh yea that's what I said about fields...he is what he is...nit the answer...but neither is wilson...neither one is a top half of league starter...until we get a viable qb we will always hover in mediocrity
We need a better offense line. Qb shouldn't have to run all the time, and the corner defense players weren't playing on point.. letting too many catches be completed, and everyone looked like they were confused on who to cover..
Same old problem we’ve had the last five years no offense. Pretty sad when the offensive line can’t open a hole for a 1 yard game. That’s just pathetic. You’re not going to be Kansas City you’re not gonna beat Buffalo scoring field goals you have got to get the ball into the end zone. The last OC was pathetic. This one doesn’t seem to be any better. he is so predictable, we run on first down pretty much every series. I’m pretty sure the other teams know this. How about we change it up a bit how about maybe we pass on first down or maybe you know play action. All I know is we need to start scoring more
The fact that Mike Williams and Russell Wilson showed obvious chemistry in Williams’s first game yet isn’t being used makes me wonder if there isn’t more to this narrative that the NFL is scripted than we might think. Too much inexplicable stuff happening. I start wondering if the league pays coaches under the table to throw games and championship runs. This loss is a big one. It puts their #1 seed hopes in jeopardy.
how about a pass on first down once and awhile. you call a or execute a low percentage bomb down the sideline when you only need 4 yards to run out the clock. thats just idiotic. if you can't get 4 yards when you absolutely need it you do not deserve to win the game.
I think it was a combination of factors. 1. The Browns were juiced and ready. It never fails to amaze me that whatever the team’s stats are, 8/2 or 2/8, every other team in the NFL feels like they’ve accomplished something special if they beat the Steelers. I think one reason for that is because Pittsburgh is a victim of their own legacy of success. 2. The weather didn’t help that’s certain. Both teams were subject to the slippery conditions, poor visibility. That’s just physics and both teams are supposed to be professional enough to play through adverse weather. 3. The Steelers had a short recovery period after an extremely physical game against the Ravens. Win or lose, both teams got beat up in the match with the Ravens. To me that’s probably the biggest single factor contributing to their loss. However, one thing I respect about the Steelers and Tomlin is that they don’t use such things as excuses and admit when they should have played better and didn’t. In many ways the training and physical conditioning necessary to compete in the NFL is similar to Navy Seal training. When there’s a mission to accomplish in front of you, you don’t make excuses. You charge ahead and strive for success regardless of any overwhelming circumstances against you. 4. The Steelers may have been guilty of not taking the Browns, with a record of 2/8, seriously enough, underestimating their opponent. It can happen to anyone. The Chiefs broke their winning streak recently and feeling overconfidence can ruin the day for anyone, not just in football. So that’s my useless opinion, rendered by my armchair quarterbacking, as to why they lost. I wouldn’t write them off just yet. They have surprised us in the past and just as capable of doing it again by learning, adjusting and continuing to move forward. They lost one battle, not the whole war. The rest of the season should provide for some interesting battles yet to come.
You forgot one more thing: Justin Fields may have successfully led be scoring drive, but he also killed a couple of others. I d like him to stay n the sidelines unless the Steelers have a huge lead. His presence disrupts the offense by taking Russ out of rhythm.
DeCurtaRican, I actually thought about the point you made about J Fields but opted not to include it. I don’t have strong reasoning for that decision, you may be right on the money. I guess I figured as far as that kind of thing goes, substitution of players by the coach, at that level, the players aren’t really phased by that kind of thing. After all, it’s the coach’s prerogative to do what he sees fit. I also think that by the time JF was subbed in, it was more of a psychological tool to throw the other team off. It’s an unknown, unpredictable. And it actually worked a couple times by gains he made happen. Truthfully, I’ve been more encouraged this season so far by watching the Steelers actually play like a team, something that’s been missing the past few seasons with certain players (I won’t mention any names) causing locker room drama, letting super star status go to their heads. Those kind of things are distracting and do not lead to a strong sense of team spirit. I have also been very impressed by the relationship JF has with RW. No overblown egos, no sense of one-upping each other, just true cooperation. Maybe I’m too old fashioned but frankly I don’t think there’s anyway that any team gets to the Super Bowl without having left those kind of attitudes in the rear view mirror, superstar individuals thinking they are the sole reason for a team’s success. Then again, I’m a die hard Steelers fan and maybe I’m coloring what I’m seeing with wishful thinking. I’d sure love it if they could win one or two more Super Bowls before they plant me in the ground. I’m 75, and have lived through all the victories and losses as far back as I can remember, from Chuck Knoll and Bill Cowher to Tomlin. And I’ve learned one thing for certain so far; as happens to us all, my body may be withering, but my spirit is not. I’m from Pittsburgh and, like many others, have seen us beat everybody and I’ve also seen us get beaten by everybody. Over time, those kind of things, all the ups and downs, will build your character and teach you humility and respect for your opponents if you let it. People from western Pennsylvania understand loss and rebuilding. I don’t mean to sound poetic but when the steel industry crashed and left Pittsburgh it left folks with an identity crises of sorts. It happened to lots of rust belt cities, all the way to Detroit. So artist point you’re in survival mode. You either reinvent yourself, get back up on the horse, whatever metaphor you like, or you perish. That never-give-up work ethic is in our DNA. As an interesting side note, my grandparents were immigrants. I’m half German, half Hungarian and most of both sides of my family were what they used to call mill hunkies. Not to be confused with the word honkie, though we were honkies as well. You can actually google mill hunkie and Wikipedia has a very accurate description of what it meant back in my grandfather and father’s time. Back to business. I was actually glad to see Tomlin put JF in for a few downs, just to shake things up. It’s been a long while since the Steelers have had two really good quarterbacks on their roster and it gives the coach a powerful option in addition to an already nicely coalescing sense of team spirit that has been woefully conspicuous in its absence. Whatever happens from here on out for the rest of the season I look forward to traditional Steelers grit and perseverance. I always tell my buddies who are fans of other teams that Steeler’s games are always entertaining, right down to the final minutes. And one thing I love about them is, if they win, man they win ugly. But when they lose, man they lose beautiful! I’m especially looking forward to the Christmas Day game between the Steelers and Chiefs, and ‘in’ Pittsburgh. To me, that’s gonna be my Super Bowl for this year. Nice talk.
This was a needed loss. Russ undefeated streak was gonna come to an end. Best for the team to feel and adjust to this loss now. Plenty football left. Plenty. To the steeler nation STOP FUCKING CRYING AND LETS GO!!
His streak didn’t have to come to an end. This was a very winnable game, and he played well in it. He could’ve thrown for 3-4 TDs. I’m m not feeling the Hustij Firkds thing. They need to given that up. He’s a backup, give him garbage time or put him in with sizable leads. Other than those two occasions, he shouldn’t be playing. That offense has enough struggles without the added burden of the O-Line having to remember which QB is in the game, and Russ having his rhythm disrupted. Dude was warming up as the game went on. He would’ve won it for the Steelers. It’s quite stupid for them to insert Fields during close games, and it needs to stop.
Although when 😮it was 3rd down and 1 or 2. Don't understand The play was for Fieids to go down field. It should have been short yardage play to receive in flat or play thats close to pick play.
When we can't punch a single yard that many times something's not working up front vs their d-line. And maybe taken more shots on 1st and 2nd down. The Browns had our run game figured out, probably bought our playbook from Belicheck.
This loss was entirely on the coaching staff. The team wasn't prepared for the Browns. They played down to the level of a 2-8 team. The play calling left a lot to be desired. The coaches or Coach Tomlin showed little or no respect for the Browns by trying to kick a 58-yard field goal into a blizzard and by going for it on 4th down in their own side of the field. Also, calling a time-out in the 4th quarter when the Browns had the ball on 3rd and 5 or 6 yards to go. A complete waste of a precious time-out that was needed at the end of the game. Every decision made during this game leads up to the end result of the Steelers losing to a team with a sub .500 record again. It's time for this to stop one way or another.
The Steelers should have made a play calling adjustment when it became obvious that the Browns were committed to defending the run. Running up the middle only works when you have some element of surprise, and some understanding that you might have to defend against a pass. They should have spread things out by throwing more, then it would have opened up the defense so that the Steelers could run the ball. Wilson was having a great game. He ended up 21/28 with 270 yards a 116 passer rating. If they would call more passes, or play action, or passes from run formations, they would have won the game. The Steelers have a great run game, but it takes passing to soften up that the opponent's run defense.
Miles Garret was the catalyst in the first three quarters of the game when he "cooled off" they started to move the ball but the play calls remind me of Matt Canada they are borderline obsessed with "establishing the run" when they should be abandoning it when necessary.
Pitt defence couldn't stop em. Wilson played a good game and got sacked too many times. AND the NFL refs have to start calling pass interference, the cornerbacks and safeties are getting away with way too much!
Ok short and sweet and to the point I’m born raised Huge Steeler Fan! My entire family is. We just had one of those days! Anybody ever have one? I know I have.This loss went totally viral. Back and forth talk about the quarterbacks. Whatever went down after this game? Blah blah and blahs. It’s OVER! We got very strong RB’s try not and bash them for a bad game Quarterbacks too! Everyone on that team too! We gotten this far haven’t we? I got to give a lot of credit including Mike Tomlin! Geez I’m proud of this team including coaching staff. Yea! There’s in need of improvement I don’t expect a Super Bowl All them men are Champions at heart You keep this bickering up on these guys? Then if more losses ?? The media to blame! You expect too much and as it is going now? ITS GETTING OUT OF HAND. I’m proud to be a Steeler fan These guys need our support not verbal bashing!
Coach Tomlin chose Russell Wilson as QB1, so live and die by Russ's strengths and weakness or go back to Justin Fields and his strengths and upside, but be advised that Pickens & Fields don't click - so it'll be up to Authur Smith to find an alternative solution. Steelers are definitely Superbowl material IF the right choices are made by Mike Tomlin!
i think the team looked much better when fields was on the field. browns had the defensive plan to keep watt at bay. do you think the steelers had a game plan for garret, the answer is pretty obvious. fields has a dimension that wilson just doesn't have.
I thought the same. They never should of switched Fields for Wilson. The O-line was starting to gel a little, but Fields was the X-factor that the Steelers needed to make up for the bad line play. He also has a rocket arm. Especially mid-range passes. But yeah, gotta mix up the playbook as well. Baltimore mostly runs, but they have Lamar taking off when crap goes south. I know Tomlin always wanted Fields over Wilson, and he's got a Lamar 2.0. Go Steelers
@david nope...team looks better with Russ and you know it...Fields is a qb, wr, te, etc..he takes off running and they know they want get a ball thrown to them with Fields..y'all haters on Russ something else😂😂
Maybe if we changed out the playcalling a bit and didn’t run on first down every time we get the ball. I’m pretty sure other teams know that we run on first down every time we get the ball. How about we change it up whoever said this offensive coordinator was a genius. I don’t know. I still have my doubts.because I’m not seeing it.
This loss is on the coaching staff. A combination of poor decision making in key situations and a few non sensical OC play calls made Friday a tough day for Steelers fans.
Run double Qb offense put them in the game at the sametime run a motion depending on what defense shows so you have the option for a run are pass there in the NFL getting paid.
Get a full back there with them for a bit off extra blocking almost like a triple offense he'll you are Allstar tight end for a extra receiver out the back for pass plays I'm sure he could beat any linebacker on a one on situation
Late I'm that game their was poor coaching. I believe they should have ran it when it was around 3mins & some change 3&4 at least u make Cleveland spend a time out. Who knows Justin Fields could've picked up the 1st. Also instead of accepting that illegal touching they should have kept it 4-2 that's a very very pressure situation that Cleveland would've had. & Who knows how that play would've went. Now all that being said where Pittsburgh made the biggest mistakes was not letting Nick Chubb score that T.D which would've left Pittsburgh with around 1+ but what they did was allow Cleveland score on the very next play which cost the Steelers precious time that they could have used. That's why I say The coaching COST the Steelers that lose. U have to put that on the COACHES.Another Thing with coaching is in the REDZONE why not have packages for Justin Fields one thing I know is with Justin in the REDZONE he scored 5 T.D. they struggled last week with Bal.in the REDZONE& I BELIEVE IF JUSTIN IS IN THE REDZONE THAT GAME AGAINST BAL the Steelers would have had at least 2 T.D's, & at best maybe 4TD's one thing we know is Justin Fields put 5TD's in the REDZONE. COACHES R GOING TO HAVE TO AT LEAST GIVE JUSTIN A CHANCE IN THE REDZONE.
The play calling has improved a LITTLE since Matt Canada but not by a lot! I heard Antonio Brown will play for free! Give him a tryout! If he is 70% of what he was, he can help
Stefanski, is 3-6. His only wins is against Ravens, Steelers, and Jaguards. We will see him on December 8 and the Steelers will remember how Winston laughed at us. Garrett will be stopped.
Not understanding how you title this what Wilson said, then you talk the entire time and what you quoted that he said was nothing like you tried to make it. Precisely why I never fall for these types of videos CLICKBAIT!!!!
It is true that weather conditions can impact both teams, but when snow is expected BOTH teams need to be allowed to wear their colored uniforms, because the team wearing white does have a bigger vision challenge in thick snow. Don’t say that isn’t a factor, because it is! It disadvantages the visiting team. Having said that, the Steelers had no business losing this game, and they lost it to m part because they narrated Justin Fields. Russ too diplomatic to say anything, but it is disrupting his rhythm, and Arthur Smith is the one pushing for that bullsh!t anyway. He needs to be silent until he shows he can direct a competent offense. Russ is an example credible late-game QB. That’s when he is at his best. Inserting JF in games cuts off his late-game magic.
I'm frustrated all that fire power for some reason it's not being shown not much movement the OC whats he's calling this isn't 1970 we have to get better all over plus red zone FG it's gonna bite us.theyre hoping Our D will keep us in the game com on man don't tire out your D to win the offense gotta pick it up
But he's never had a losing season...who cares??!! Notice how nobody ever tries to grab up any of our coaches and coordinators?? He doesn't get the right people for the job!!! 1 playoff win in almost a damn decade. So over this shit and MT!!!
When Fields looks better running the option, and Russ looks better throwing the ball in the snow late in the game - Fields throwing long to Pickens on 3rd and 4 was the wrong play for the wrong qb. Russell throws it, I trust we get it. Fields runs it, I trust we get 3-8 yards. Stop trying to make one man do what another does better.
Can’t come with a half ass mindset with a team that came to play.they under estimated the browns they are going t get there ass handed to them on a silver plate and it’s going to be to late
Smith is trying to screw Russ and Tomlin just look at the play calling in the redzone and putting fields and taking Russ out when just started to get things going Smith.got pissed when he said that fields was the starter and Tomlin told him that he was the Coach and that Smith would do what Tomlin said Smith wants to be the Coach what better way then to call the wrong plays and make Russ and Tomlin look stupid for Tomlin picking Russ as the starter.....
The Justin Fields thing isn’t working for me. He should only play when the Steelers have a huge lead. It’s too risky to do anything else. The Steelers are going to blow this season and lose BOTH QBs with this bs. Russ will still have suitors. And playing Fields won’t make him stay. He’s already gone, whether to the Jets, Raiders or Seahawks, or even back to Chicago! They can forget about re-signing him because that train left the station once Russ was on inserted into his rightful place as the starter. They need to worry about keeping Russ and making a SB run.
THIS LOSS IS ON TOMLIN Indecisive after the Winston grounding/illegal touching fiasco. when he had them in 4 and 2 he chose 3 and 7, knowing his defense was tired. You never give them two cracks at picking up the first down. Make the Browns decide? Kick a 50 yd FG or try again to pick up the 1st on 4th down. They would probably have punted the ball. He took the options away from his team. Poor Coaching that is why he can't compete with Andy Reid.😢
Yall some of the most fickled fans. We lost. They going to clean up some stuff got a long week to work on a good install. The adjustments coming hopefully its all we need until super bowl Sunday.
Tomlin sucks couldn’t coach a high school team to a state championship he can’t manage a clock, can’t control a team, can’t scheme a game , and can’t win playoff games what a joke
Nah the refs killed us in Cleveland. That hold on Herbig would have killed any momentum Cleveland had an they wouldn't have scored that TD. But that's alright cause we gotta play shit stains again this season an they better hope the weather ain't clear an that the refs can help them again. I'm putting money on Watt causing havoc in that game
As long as the season is .500, it's a "winning" season and Tomlin will continue to waste talent while Steelers go nowhere. Fans deserve better, players like TJ and Cam deserve better. Also Tomlin needs to stop playing head games and choose one QB1, NOT QB1.5 - It's not working.
Tomlin has been arrogant from the jump. Thinks he is us smarter than he is. Majority of true older fans wanted him gone long ago. He is a LOSER. He ruined great players. Get him retired as the good non losing coach cuz he can't build a Super Bowl team. He inherited one.
Pittsburgh game plan every week run the ball on first and second downs throw on 3rd,no creativity ever browns bad pass defense would of whooped them if u threw the ball more regardless of the weather that night, Wilson threw for over 260 yards
Quit crying a real playoff team wins these games. Fields throwing a pass after Wilson’s 2 touchdowns is almost a cruel joke, Tomlin’s a real A hole with clock or challenge decisions. The no losing record is his lucky ass had a lot of talent that took care of business. What do you call a coach that after more than 20 years coaching in the NFL don’t really know the rules.
Tomlin loses to a lot of losing record teams. Plays shiitty teams plays like shit. Dallas also beat us and they have only won two games. Same as last years loses!
Playcalling on 3rd and 4th down and the olines inability to open holes and sustain blocks. Cleveland was stacking 8 in the box, and we ran right into it over and over.
Poor Coaching, early mistakes going 4 th and 1 on our half of the field twice.
offensive line doesn't block effectively...let's start with that.
Quit running Najee up the middle on first down. Pathetic.
Your not alone with that one
Indeed..haha
Yes and he barely gets to a down. Gets tackled in seconds
THANK YOU BRO!!!!!!!😢 IM SO UP TIGHT IM CALLING THE PLAY FROM , 1st DOWN WATCH THEY RUN IT. NEG PLAY 80% OF THE TIME, IT MAKES ME SO MAD IF I KNOW IT THE WHOLE STADIUM KNOWS IT ,WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEFENSE COORDINATOR DOESN'T KNOW IT... I NEVER THOUGHT OUR OC WAS THE BEST PICK. 4&1 JUST LET'S TRY A QB SNEAK A PUSH OR SOMETHING, WE KEEP PLAYING LIKE THIS I CAN SEE US GOING ON A LOOSING STREAK. SMDH 😢
Its so predictable Harris is going up the middle on 1st down.
The offensive coordinator is terrible, he has no imagination whatsoever
Heard this before.
Arthur Smith is a dumb offensive coordinator
It’s his first time playing the Browns with this offense. Relax
Yes !!!! Thank you we have to do better with our play calling...or we gonna be embarrassed 😢 can't make a 4&1 our we are ready for a s.b run this year.?😮. He need to go now, Mike T call the plays ANDY REED K.C COACH.
@@dakidhandzso true. He's so sad!!!😢
Steelers always run on 1st & 2nd down. What the hell 😡
Yeah, super predictable - even from my seat through the TV.....
Arthur Smith is a dumb offensive coordinator
All these Steelers need are blue and neon green unis and I would swear they were the 2016 Seahawks. Stifling themselves with poor play-calling and mediocre O-Line play.
And the Justin Fields e perimeter needs to stop. It’s hurting the offense. It disrupts Russ and the offense.
@@dakidhandz: Agreed! They lost a very winnable game. I thought Arthur Smith was supposed to be a good O.C.
They need to get Brian Schottenheimer in there once McCarthy is fired from Dallas. He had Russ running an e plosive offense that couldn’t be stopped. He only got fired from Seattle because it exposed Pete Carroll’s poor coaching on defense.
Russ was putting up Manning-type numbers.
@DeCurtaRican one issue. Russell probably will be gone after this season. They'll look at Fields or another young Superstar
The weather conditions should NEVER make a difference because it’s that way for both teams
The play calling was weak! Also, the official no calls on several ovious pass interference helped cleveland Browns. I will say it again need new strength & conditioning coach; along with OL coach.
THIS LOSS IS ON TOMLIN.
This loss is on not having a qb ..Wilson is not the qb from seattle...fields is what he is...not a lot of winnable games remaining for this team.
@williamheckler3818 Fields is not the answer. He has the worst 4th quarter rating among all starting NFL QB. Stick with Russell Wilson.
Uh yea that's what I said about fields...he is what he is...nit the answer...but neither is wilson...neither one is a top half of league starter...until we get a viable qb we will always hover in mediocrity
Until the Steelers get rid of TOMLIN they will never win another Superbowl
We need a better offense line. Qb shouldn't have to run all the time, and the corner defense players weren't playing on point.. letting too many catches be completed, and everyone looked like they were confused on who to cover..
A lot of pass interference against Pickens
Pickens lacks speed. Dude always has a defender in his face! He’s not a #1. Mike Williams could relieve that pressure but isn’t playing, why?!
Same old problem we’ve had the last five years no offense. Pretty sad when the offensive line can’t open a hole for a 1 yard game. That’s just pathetic. You’re not going to be Kansas City you’re not gonna beat Buffalo scoring field goals you have got to get the ball into the end zone. The last OC was pathetic. This one doesn’t seem to be any better. he is so predictable, we run on first down pretty much every series. I’m pretty sure the other teams know this. How about we change it up a bit how about maybe we pass on first down or maybe you know play action. All I know is we need to start scoring more
The fact that Mike Williams and Russell Wilson showed obvious chemistry in Williams’s first game yet isn’t being used makes me wonder if there isn’t more to this narrative that the NFL is scripted than we might think.
Too much inexplicable stuff happening. I start wondering if the league pays coaches under the table to throw games and championship runs.
This loss is a big one. It puts their #1 seed hopes in jeopardy.
LAS VEGAS?
Right, because it never snows in Pittsburgh!
how about a pass on first down once and awhile. you call a or execute a low percentage bomb down the sideline when you only need 4 yards to run out the clock. thats just idiotic. if you can't get 4 yards when you absolutely need it you do not deserve to win the game.
Excessive holding on T. J. Watt and a lot of pass interference.
LoL, they never hold Miles 😂😂
I think it was a combination of factors.
1. The Browns were juiced and ready. It never fails to amaze me that whatever the team’s stats are, 8/2 or 2/8, every other team in the NFL feels like they’ve accomplished something special if they beat the Steelers. I think one reason for that is because Pittsburgh is a victim of their own legacy of success.
2. The weather didn’t help that’s certain. Both teams were subject to the slippery conditions, poor visibility. That’s just physics and both teams are supposed to be professional enough to play through adverse weather.
3. The Steelers had a short recovery period after an extremely physical game against the Ravens. Win or lose, both teams got beat up in the match with the Ravens. To me that’s probably the biggest single factor contributing to their loss. However, one thing I respect about the Steelers and Tomlin is that they don’t use such things as excuses and admit when they should have played better and didn’t. In many ways the training and physical conditioning necessary to compete in the NFL is similar to Navy Seal training. When there’s a mission to accomplish in front of you, you don’t make excuses. You charge ahead and strive for success regardless of any overwhelming circumstances against you.
4. The Steelers may have been guilty of not taking the Browns, with a record of 2/8, seriously enough, underestimating their opponent. It can happen to anyone. The Chiefs broke their winning streak recently and feeling overconfidence can ruin the day for anyone, not just in football.
So that’s my useless opinion, rendered by my armchair quarterbacking, as to why they lost. I wouldn’t write them off just yet. They have surprised us in the past and just as capable of doing it again by learning, adjusting and continuing to move forward. They lost one battle, not the whole war. The rest of the season should provide for some interesting battles yet to come.
You forgot one more thing: Justin Fields may have successfully led be scoring drive, but he also killed a couple of others. I d like him to stay n the sidelines unless the Steelers have a huge lead. His presence disrupts the offense by taking Russ out of rhythm.
DeCurtaRican, I actually thought about the point you made about J Fields but opted not to include it. I don’t have strong reasoning for that decision, you may be right on the money. I guess I figured as far as that kind of thing goes, substitution of players by the coach, at that level, the players aren’t really phased by that kind of thing. After all, it’s the coach’s prerogative to do what he sees fit. I also think that by the time JF was subbed in, it was more of a psychological tool to throw the other team off. It’s an unknown, unpredictable. And it actually worked a couple times by gains he made happen. Truthfully, I’ve been more encouraged this season so far by watching the Steelers actually play like a team, something that’s been missing the past few seasons with certain players (I won’t mention any names) causing locker room drama, letting super star status go to their heads. Those kind of things are distracting and do not lead to a strong sense of team spirit.
I have also been very impressed by the relationship JF has with RW. No overblown egos, no sense of one-upping each other, just true cooperation.
Maybe I’m too old fashioned but frankly I don’t think there’s anyway that any team gets to the Super Bowl without having left those kind of attitudes in the rear view mirror, superstar individuals thinking they are the sole reason for a team’s success.
Then again, I’m a die hard Steelers fan and maybe I’m coloring what I’m seeing with wishful thinking. I’d sure love it if they could win one or two more Super Bowls before they plant me in the ground. I’m 75, and have lived through all the victories and losses as far back as I can remember, from Chuck Knoll and Bill Cowher to Tomlin. And I’ve learned one thing for certain so far; as happens to us all, my body may be withering, but my spirit is not.
I’m from Pittsburgh and, like many others, have seen us beat everybody and I’ve also seen us get beaten by everybody. Over time, those kind of things, all the ups and downs, will build your character and teach you humility and respect for your opponents if you let it.
People from western Pennsylvania understand loss and rebuilding. I don’t mean to sound poetic but when the steel industry crashed and left Pittsburgh it left folks with an identity crises of sorts. It happened to lots of rust belt cities, all the way to Detroit. So artist point you’re in survival mode. You either reinvent yourself, get back up on the horse, whatever metaphor you like, or you perish. That never-give-up work ethic is in our DNA.
As an interesting side note, my grandparents were immigrants. I’m half German, half Hungarian and most of both sides of my family were what they used to call mill hunkies. Not to be confused with the word honkie, though we were honkies as well. You can actually google mill hunkie and Wikipedia has a very accurate description of what it meant back in my grandfather and father’s time.
Back to business. I was actually glad to see Tomlin put JF in for a few downs, just to shake things up. It’s been a long while since the Steelers have had two really good quarterbacks on their roster and it gives the coach a powerful option in addition to an already nicely coalescing sense of team spirit that has been woefully conspicuous in its absence.
Whatever happens from here on out for the rest of the season I look forward to traditional Steelers grit and perseverance. I always tell my buddies who are fans of other teams that Steeler’s games are always entertaining, right down to the final minutes. And one thing I love about them is, if they win, man they win ugly. But when they lose, man they lose beautiful! I’m especially looking forward to the Christmas Day game between the Steelers and Chiefs, and ‘in’ Pittsburgh. To me, that’s gonna be my Super Bowl for this year. Nice talk.
This was a needed loss. Russ undefeated streak was gonna come to an end. Best for the team to feel and adjust to this loss now. Plenty football left. Plenty. To the steeler nation STOP FUCKING CRYING AND LETS GO!!
I agree.
His streak didn’t have to come to an end. This was a very winnable game, and he played well in it. He could’ve thrown for 3-4 TDs. I’m m not feeling the Hustij Firkds thing. They need to given that up. He’s a backup, give him garbage time or put him in with sizable leads. Other than those two occasions, he shouldn’t be playing.
That offense has enough struggles without the added burden of the O-Line having to remember which QB is in the game, and Russ having his rhythm disrupted.
Dude was warming up as the game went on. He would’ve won it for the Steelers. It’s quite stupid for them to insert Fields during close games, and it needs to stop.
Although when 😮it was 3rd down and 1 or 2. Don't understand The play was for Fieids to go down field. It should have been short yardage play to receive in flat or play thats close to pick play.
When we can't punch a single yard that many times something's not working up front vs their d-line. And maybe taken more shots on 1st and 2nd down. The Browns had our run game figured out, probably bought our playbook from Belicheck.
Bad callls is on the coaching!! Named up the middle not working!
Cant blame the weather Browns played in it too.
This loss was entirely on the coaching staff. The team wasn't prepared for the Browns. They played down to the level of a 2-8 team. The play calling left a lot to be desired. The coaches or Coach Tomlin showed little or no respect for the Browns by trying to kick a 58-yard field goal into a blizzard and by going for it on 4th down in their own side of the field. Also, calling a time-out in the 4th quarter when the Browns had the ball on 3rd and 5 or 6 yards to go. A complete waste of a precious time-out that was needed at the end of the game. Every decision made during this game leads up to the end result of the Steelers losing to a team with a sub .500 record again. It's time for this to stop one way or another.
The Steelers should have made a play calling adjustment when it became obvious that the Browns were committed to defending the run. Running up the middle only works when you have some element of surprise, and some understanding that you might have to defend against a pass. They should have spread things out by throwing more, then it would have opened up the defense so that the Steelers could run the ball.
Wilson was having a great game. He ended up 21/28 with 270 yards a 116 passer rating. If they would call more passes, or play action, or passes from run formations, they would have won the game. The Steelers have a great run game, but it takes passing to soften up that the opponent's run defense.
Is there a stat for how many times a running back gets stopped for a loss? If so, is Najee first in the NFL?
They need too wake up. ⏰️ they are better than this. That's go STEELERS. ❤
Miles Garret was the catalyst in the first three quarters of the game when he "cooled off" they started to move the ball but the play calls remind me of Matt Canada they are borderline obsessed with "establishing the run" when they should be abandoning it when necessary.
Steelers had that game. They need to stop playing 2 QB’s . That’s what messed them up.
It was the second qb that gave steelers the lead.duh
Look here the Steelers are who we are!! If it wasn't snowing we would have won!!! We played against the Browns the refs and God!!! We can't beat God
Pitt defence couldn't stop em. Wilson played a good game and got sacked too many times. AND the NFL refs have to start calling pass interference, the cornerbacks and safeties are getting away with way too much!
Ok short and sweet and to the point I’m born raised Huge Steeler Fan! My entire family is. We just had one of those days! Anybody ever have one? I know I have.This loss went totally viral. Back and forth talk about the quarterbacks. Whatever went down after this game? Blah blah and blahs. It’s OVER! We got very strong RB’s try not and bash them for a bad game Quarterbacks too! Everyone on that team too! We gotten this far haven’t we? I got to give a lot of credit including Mike Tomlin! Geez I’m proud of this team including coaching staff. Yea! There’s in need of improvement I don’t expect a Super Bowl All them men are Champions at heart You keep this bickering up on these guys? Then if more losses ?? The media to blame! You expect too much and as it is going now? ITS GETTING OUT OF HAND. I’m proud to be a Steeler fan These guys need our support not verbal bashing!
The short week, plus you add on the unstoppable Miles Garrett, and the weather. That was a trap game if I ever seen one
They have these "packages" for Fields but they are all QB runs. The other team knows this. Smith isn't a great OC.
AFC Divsional games are very hard to sweep no matter who we're plaaying in the Division!!! Just cool Down it's one game!!!
They should of kept Wilson in instead of fields y change it up he was on a role
Coach Tomlin chose Russell Wilson as QB1, so live and die by Russ's strengths and weakness or go back to Justin Fields and his strengths and upside, but be advised that Pickens & Fields don't click - so it'll be up to Authur Smith to find an alternative solution.
Steelers are definitely Superbowl material IF the right choices are made by Mike Tomlin!
Sure they didn’t look the best but so what life goes on. For the most part they are doing better than last year thus far.
i think the team looked much better when fields was on the field. browns had the defensive plan to keep watt at bay. do you think the steelers had a game plan for garret, the answer is pretty obvious. fields has a dimension that wilson just doesn't have.
I thought the same. They never should of switched Fields for Wilson. The O-line was starting to gel a little, but Fields was the X-factor that the Steelers needed to make up for the bad line play. He also has a rocket arm. Especially mid-range passes. But yeah, gotta mix up the playbook as well. Baltimore mostly runs, but they have Lamar taking off when crap goes south. I know Tomlin always wanted Fields over Wilson, and he's got a Lamar 2.0. Go Steelers
@david nope...team looks better with Russ and you know it...Fields is a qb, wr, te, etc..he takes off running and they know they want get a ball thrown to them with Fields..y'all haters on Russ something else😂😂
@@rabbitsrunning6642 nobody is hating anyone, it is funny how people that don't agree with you are haters. just grow up!
Oh yeah ! Tomlin at it again not running the show good same ole Steelers I say ‘
We just can't sustain a potent offense to save our lives. Hoping this season doesn't go down the tubes after such a positive start 🙏.
Thursday night games should be abolished.
Only Sunday and Monday night games.
It's bullshit the NFL is fixed
Tough stretch coming for this team.... I cannot see it
Steelers suck 1 and done in the playoffs again a monument to Tomlins medeoracy
👎🏽on you not them.
This has been going on since the beginning football Cleveland And Pittsburgh the Weather Bowl it’s every year
They blew it or threw it.
Something stinks?
Maybe if we changed out the playcalling a bit and didn’t run on first down every time we get the ball. I’m pretty sure other teams know that we run on first down every time we get the ball. How about we change it up whoever said this offensive coordinator was a genius. I don’t know. I still have my doubts.because I’m not seeing it.
This loss is on the coaching staff. A combination of poor decision making in key situations and a few non sensical OC play calls made Friday a tough day for Steelers fans.
Xleveland played in the same weather so not a good excuse! Steelers need offense work!
Damn that was figuratively and literally hard to watch. I could barely see anything.
Run double Qb offense put them in the game at the sametime run a motion depending on what defense shows so you have the option for a run are pass there in the NFL getting paid.
Get a full back there with them for a bit off extra blocking almost like a triple offense he'll you are Allstar tight end for a extra receiver out the back for pass plays I'm sure he could beat any linebacker on a one on situation
The evolution of the pistol with double threat QB option let fields decoy that pass option and russ decoy the run option
Late I'm that game their was poor coaching. I believe they should have ran it when it was around 3mins & some change 3&4 at least u make Cleveland spend a time out. Who knows Justin Fields could've picked up the 1st. Also instead of accepting that illegal touching they should have kept it 4-2 that's a very very pressure situation that Cleveland would've had. & Who knows how that play would've went. Now all that being said where Pittsburgh made the biggest mistakes was not letting Nick Chubb score that T.D which would've left Pittsburgh with around 1+ but what they did was allow Cleveland score on the very next play which cost the Steelers precious time that they could have used. That's why I say The coaching COST the Steelers that lose. U have to put that on the COACHES.Another Thing with coaching is in the REDZONE why not have packages for Justin Fields one thing I know is with Justin in the REDZONE he scored 5 T.D. they struggled last week with Bal.in the REDZONE& I BELIEVE IF JUSTIN IS IN THE REDZONE THAT GAME AGAINST BAL the Steelers would have had at least 2 T.D's, & at best maybe 4TD's one thing we know is Justin Fields put 5TD's in the REDZONE. COACHES R GOING TO HAVE TO AT LEAST GIVE JUSTIN A CHANCE IN THE REDZONE.
The play calling has improved a LITTLE since Matt Canada but not by a lot! I heard Antonio Brown will play for free! Give him a tryout! If he is 70% of what he was, he can help
Fix it now coaches it's on u
Would been a tied the game if didn’t decline the penalty
Stefanski out coaches Tomin a lot.
Stefanski, is 3-6. His only wins is against Ravens, Steelers, and Jaguards. We will see him on December 8 and the Steelers will remember how Winston laughed at us. Garrett will be stopped.
What was that? I know the Steelers played the practice squad by mistake. OOPS!
Tomlin's methods of coaching doesn't work. You should NEVER lose games you're supposed to win!
They not going anywhere until offense line is for fix
Offensive line is suspect
Wake up people.....
Sounds like Kordell Stewart and the slash role. Old stuff
Not understanding how you title this what Wilson said, then you talk the entire time and what you quoted that he said was nothing like you tried to make it. Precisely why I never fall for these types of videos CLICKBAIT!!!!
It's a Tomlin coached team against a sub par 2-8 team, of course they're going to loss.
History repeats itself once again
It is true that weather conditions can impact both teams, but when snow is expected BOTH teams need to be allowed to wear their colored uniforms, because the team wearing white does have a bigger vision challenge in thick snow. Don’t say that isn’t a factor, because it is! It disadvantages the visiting team.
Having said that, the Steelers had no business losing this game, and they lost it to m part because they narrated Justin Fields. Russ too diplomatic to say anything, but it is disrupting his rhythm, and Arthur Smith is the one pushing for that bullsh!t anyway. He needs to be silent until he shows he can direct a competent offense.
Russ is an example credible late-game QB. That’s when he is at his best. Inserting JF in games cuts off his late-game magic.
What th happen to Sean Vincent and Joseph joey Vincent tell them ThanYou!!!!! For looking out for my child😇 Shiloh temple
I'm frustrated all that fire power for some reason it's not being shown not much movement the OC whats he's calling this isn't 1970 we have to get better all over plus red zone FG it's gonna bite us.theyre hoping Our D will keep us in the game com on man don't tire out your D to win the offense gotta pick it up
Shake it off. Next game. Big picture
I see a .500 season happening
anyone rememner SLASH fantastic play when in THAT mode
But he's never had a losing season...who cares??!! Notice how nobody ever tries to grab up any of our coaches and coordinators?? He doesn't get the right people for the job!!! 1 playoff win in almost a damn decade. So over this shit and MT!!!
Stick with Fields. Time will show that is what they should do.
I agree 100%
When Fields looks better running the option, and Russ looks better throwing the ball in the snow late in the game - Fields throwing long to Pickens on 3rd and 4 was the wrong play for the wrong qb. Russell throws it, I trust we get it. Fields runs it, I trust we get 3-8 yards. Stop trying to make one man do what another does better.
Tomlin
must go!!!!!
Can’t come with a half ass mindset with a team that came to play.they under estimated the browns they are going t get there ass handed to them on a silver plate and it’s going to be to late
Don't forget the ref,s
Smith is trying to screw Russ and Tomlin just look at the play calling in the redzone and putting fields and taking Russ out when just started to get things going Smith.got pissed when he said that fields was the starter and Tomlin told him that he was the Coach and that Smith would do what Tomlin said Smith wants to be the Coach what better way then to call the wrong plays and make Russ and Tomlin look stupid for Tomlin picking Russ as the starter.....
FIELDS gets my start
Russ gets mine
The Justin Fields thing isn’t working for me. He should only play when the Steelers have a huge lead. It’s too risky to do anything else. The Steelers are going to blow this season and lose BOTH QBs with this bs. Russ will still have suitors.
And playing Fields won’t make him stay. He’s already gone, whether to the Jets, Raiders or Seahawks, or even back to Chicago! They can forget about re-signing him because that train left the station once Russ was on inserted into his rightful place as the starter. They need to worry about keeping Russ and making a SB run.
The ref,s lost us the game
It was all Tomlin was at fault
Steelers will never be in the Super Bowl because Tomlin doesn’t know how to coach !
THIS LOSS IS ON TOMLIN Indecisive after the Winston grounding/illegal touching fiasco. when he had them in 4 and 2 he chose 3 and 7, knowing his defense was tired. You never give them two cracks at picking up the first down. Make the Browns decide? Kick a 50 yd FG or try again to pick up the 1st on 4th down. They would probably have punted the ball. He took the options away from his team. Poor Coaching that is why he can't compete with Andy Reid.😢
Yall some of the most fickled fans. We lost. They going to clean up some stuff got a long week to work on a good install. The adjustments coming hopefully its all we need until super bowl Sunday.
Tomlin sucks couldn’t coach a high school team to a state championship he can’t manage a clock, can’t control a team, can’t scheme a game , and can’t win playoff games what a joke
Tomlin needs to go, A. Smith play calling in awful.
Nah the refs killed us in Cleveland. That hold on Herbig would have killed any momentum Cleveland had an they wouldn't have scored that TD. But that's alright cause we gotta play shit stains again this season an they better hope the weather ain't clear an that the refs can help them again. I'm putting money on Watt causing havoc in that game
We looked like shit, that's what happens when you can't score a touchdown, I'm done with this shit! False hopes, sick of it!
As long as the season is .500, it's a "winning" season and Tomlin will continue to waste talent while Steelers go nowhere. Fans deserve better, players like TJ and Cam deserve better. Also Tomlin needs to stop playing head games and choose one QB1, NOT QB1.5 - It's not working.
Win lose or tie. I'm a STEELERS FAN TIL I DIE. If you can't take it WALK.🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛
Tomlin has been arrogant from the jump. Thinks he is us smarter than he is. Majority of true older fans wanted him gone long ago. He is a LOSER. He ruined great players. Get him retired as the good non losing coach cuz he can't build a Super Bowl team. He inherited one.
Browns tackled better too
Coaching number one problem, players that don’t belong on a NFL team number two.
Pittsburgh game plan every week run the ball on first and second downs throw on 3rd,no creativity ever browns bad pass defense would of whooped them if u threw the ball more regardless of the weather that night, Wilson threw for over 260 yards
Go Nick Chubb
Terrible coaching and play calling all around. Need to replace the head coach.
Typical Tomlin Special loss
Both
steelers can't defeat a good team with a great secondary go check all of their games
Typical Tomlin game plan against a bad team. How many times has Mike done this? Remember the 0fer Raiders? He always makes excuses
Quit crying a real playoff team wins these games. Fields throwing a pass after Wilson’s 2 touchdowns is almost a cruel joke, Tomlin’s a real A hole with clock or challenge decisions. The no losing record is his lucky ass had a lot of talent that took care of business. What do you call a coach that after more than 20 years coaching in the NFL don’t really know the rules.
Tomlin loses to a lot of losing record teams. Plays shiitty teams plays like shit. Dallas also beat us and they have only won two games. Same as last years loses!