Very interseting how they all do the same job but vary so much. For a small work shop I think this is a very valuable attachment for a lathe , expands its mode of operation coniderably, just like a tool post grinder. Thanks Mr Pete for the very indepth video and the links .
At 2:00, the "unknown" attachment sure looks like it has a smiling face, ha! Perhaps it is pleased to finally receive some attention after all these years.
Thank You Mr. Pete, I couple of years ago I inherited an Clausing Model 100, It came with a milling attachment like that one in the Clausing catalog. They a different in that they don't have the hang over like the rest of them. I have not had the need to use it yet but some day.
Thank you Mr Pete. I found an angle plate that had been modified considerably. I later discovered that it was made to fit a 13 inch South Bend. The compound came off, the angle plate went on, then the compound mounted to the angle plate. I'm not sure if was used for a makeshift milling attachment or some other purpose. I always enjoy the show and tell.
I am headed to watch one of your videos showing these in operation. I am having trouble picturing how it works but am confident arter watching at least one I will be an arm chair expert machinist.
Wasn't there a milling attachement that used the spindle and tail stock to set up as a horizontal mil for cutterl part was put on a table mounted on crosslide was made back in 1930's..40s
Mr Pete, I checked the Grizzly catalog and website, to see if they offered a milling attachment for their modern South Bend Lathe. Sorry, no such luck. Used ones occasionally appear on Ebay .
Years ago I bought a Palmgren vise and removed my compound and replaced it with a solid block with a dovetail and two bolts. It helped some on the vibration with a larger bolt and hold down but you still have to be careful . I still use it, no space for a milling machine.Still love my old 9” south bend lathe . Thanks for the video’s.
I had a lot of use for my Taig milling attachment before owning a proper milling machine. Quite limited travel (2inches!) but for small parts is was a lot of fun. Still better than clamping the part awkwardly on the slide. Even made clamps to hold a digital caliper on the attachment as a poor man's DRO.
That might be a Sheldon ? I'll have to look at my 11/44" and my Milling attachment. Nice show. Yep, I checked mine and the no name is like mine. I keep a turned piece of maple in the hole. I have a nice tool post grinder as well. 🙂
Vevor has several different sizes available, though they aren't specifically for your machine. If you just need it for a single job you can bolt the work to an angle plate mounted to the cross slide or compound. That sounds sketchy, but it would probably be more rigid than a part cantilevered out 6 inches like the palmgren milling attachment he showed.
Would you have a Clausing lathe accessories catalog? Would like to see what a steady rest looks like for a 10" lathe. I'm in the process of building one. Note: 70 degree ways, not 90 like other lathes.
I’d love to see a tear down of the Palmgren. Would one use collets to hold the cutters in the head stick? That kind of seems to be what was pictured. Very interesting video, thank you for sharing.
Yep, you need a collet to hold the cutter. Travers tool has them individually or in sets for a #2 or #3 Morse taper lathe spindle. I just bought a #3 Morse taper set just last week for about $110 that included 5 collets up to 3/4 inch diameter shanks. A chuck isn't suitable to hold the hardened shank of an end mill. Anything other than a light cut will suck the cutter out of the chuck into the work. The collets have a set screw that locks into the flat on the end mill to prevent that from happening. Plus the cutter must be held dead nuts on center or one flute will do all the cutting and any feature like a key way will be cut over size. Lastly the collet will get the milling cutter several inches closer to the lathe's spindle bearings giving more rigidity to the cutter and more room for your work.
@@aceroadholder2185 great explanation. Thanks. I have seen ER collets as well that have a pin that engages with the flat on the tool to prevent slippage. Thanks
Have you had a chance to evaluate any of the import milling attachment that came out in recent years? I think they're either coming from China or India, I see 3 versions ranging from mid-60's to mid-160's price. One's a small one, one's a fixed, and another one's a swivel like the atlas w/two different vise options. I'm tempted given the price.
For very light occasional use I think they have a purpose especially when a dedicated milling machine isn't practical or possible. I think these attachments probably had rigidity on par with the many "mini-mills" you see advertised today. I have a Sieg SX3 mini-mill in my shop which displaced the Atlas milling attachment I used to own and use on my Atlas 10-inch lathe. The mini-mill is much easier to use and has greater travel on all axes but I'd say the rigidity is only slightly greater...it's still a mini-mill and certainly not a Bridgeport.
Lyle, I sure wish I had the milling attachment for my old 10-inch South Bend! I know I wouldn't use it much since I've got a mill-drill for milling, but I'd still like to find one. Maybe I'll stumble over one at a garage sale or similar one of these days. I'm not anywhere near an "industrial" part of the country, so I'd have to find a home shop Machinist selling his/her stuff I guess.
Will the Craftsman vise part of the milling attach fit on the cross slide? I see that your Clausing 5914 compound slide had a rough life. Mine is cracked down to the way screw. Just ordered 2 blanks to fabricate one. I think my Beaver mill is up to it.
If you don't have a Bridgeport, or a horizontal mill, or a shaper, like you do Tubalcain, the milling attachment can be the difference in getting a job done. While they definitely lack RIGIDITY, with light cuts and good setup, they can be satisfactory. Appreciate the run down on the different ones, I would take Brand X if it would fit my SB 13" it looks beefy.
Your unknown milling attachment may be a very early version of the South Bend milling attachment. I don't recall any aftermarket one's in years past. Especially any that were advertised in the popular magazines we like to look at. Dad bought one of those Palmgren milling attachments for our 9" SBL back in the 1960's. What a wimpy attachment! Tore up many a project trying to mill with it. About all it was good for was drilling a few holes. Still have battle scars using it and in fact, still have the attachment! Its buried deep in the dungeons on the SBL cabinet! Thanks for sharing, Ken
Too much to type. They are on the verge of being a bit silly. Hard on the carriage. That said, I've done some milling on an early 1911, 12" and it can be done. The compound mounting is quite different into the late 20's anyway so this is very interesting to me. Because of this video, I grabbed the milling attachment that came with the 1928, 9C and studied it again. Very interesting video! Thank you!
I have a 'milling attachment' that belongs a Myford ML7. It is the one on the left seen in this video: ruclips.net/video/xVfnhy35QQs/видео.html As per a milling machine table, it just has 3 T slots so you can clamp work directly to it - or clamp a suitable vice in which to mount your work. It saddens me somewhat to see it in the garage where we had the ML7. Dad decided to keep it and not sell it with the lathe. Now we have a mill, we've no need for it.
Mr Pete I have made a couple of comments on your videos about the Canadian Freedom Truckers... you haven't even posted a simple yes like you do on most comments...You like to fly your little American flag in videos and rant on things...Take it a step further...You Have a large VOICE...it is needed...Lyle you are certainly aware of what's going on and soon IT will be coming to a town near you...
@@mrpete222 thank you...I hesitated to write that previous post...I look at watching yours and the others videos I watch as educational, entertaining, a pleasure to watch and, a great escape ...Lyle your rants are true and they basically are about crumbling freedoms and morals and, that is why we love your rants . You are someone who has a gift of people listening to your words and, I believe we're close to being in a "all hands on deck" moment and if just one person reads your comment and thinks about our future that is a good thing. It is a shame that it has come to this yet, I feel that if I can get the word out and get people to become aware and spread the word we can keep and preserve some of the freedoms we have left. Thank You and keep those videos coming...
I would have never guessed how the Palmgren mounted to the tool post, without you showing me. Thanks Lyle!
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Mr Pete videos mid-week! Glad I have the day off to watch.
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This unknown attachment has a nice giggly eyed face. Loved it!
I just got one for my old Clausing Model 100 off of eBay. Needs to be cleaned a little and painted but it's in great shape.
Good morning sir, I’ll have to wait till break to watch this amazing material! Working for the man right now!
Yea
Haven't been able to find one for my South Bend heavy 10, so I'm making one.
Thanks Mr. Pete. I'm looking forward to seeing you take a cut using the South Bend.
Very interseting how they all do the same job but vary so much. For a small work shop I think this is a very valuable attachment for a lathe , expands its mode of operation coniderably, just like a tool post grinder. Thanks Mr Pete for the very indepth video and the links .
At 2:00, the "unknown" attachment sure looks like it has a smiling face, ha! Perhaps it is pleased to finally receive some attention after all these years.
Mystery unit could be Boxford. It would be a neat little project to make an adapter to fot the craftsman to the south bend
Good morning Mr.Pete!
Thank You Mr. Pete, I couple of years ago I inherited an Clausing Model 100, It came with a milling attachment like that one in the Clausing catalog. They a different in that they don't have the hang over like the rest of them. I have not had the need to use it yet but some day.
I like the Atlas.and the "Brand X". I like both of them do to rigidity and amount of material for vibration absorption, respectively.
Agreed
i just got that exact palmgren attachment. for the small jobs i do gunsmithing, it works great
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Mr. Pete, I am your long lost cousin,uncle,aunt,student,friend. Sell me the Atlas one! LOL
Thank you Mr Pete. I found an angle plate that had been modified considerably. I later discovered that it was made to fit a 13 inch South Bend. The compound came off, the angle plate went on, then the compound mounted to the angle plate. I'm not sure if was used for a makeshift milling attachment or some other purpose. I always enjoy the show and tell.
The palmgren 250 has been pretty handy at making spanner features in round parts but I would dread doing anything substantial.
Thanks for allowing us to look over your sholder🤗😎🤗😎
It seems like Atlas was the only company that put any thought into rigidity.
I am headed to watch one of your videos showing these in operation. I am having trouble picturing how it works but am confident arter watching at least one I will be an arm chair expert machinist.
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Wasn't there a milling attachement that used the spindle and tail stock to set up as a horizontal mil for cutterl part was put on a table mounted on crosslide was made back in 1930's..40s
Mr Pete, I checked the Grizzly catalog and website, to see if they offered a milling attachment for their modern South Bend Lathe. Sorry, no such luck. Used ones occasionally appear on Ebay .
Enjoyed this. Been thinking about one of these for my 6" Craftsman I have need of elongated holes every one in a while.
Very interesting and convenient.Thank you.
Years ago I bought a Palmgren vise and removed my compound and replaced it with a solid block with a dovetail and two bolts. It helped some on the vibration with a larger bolt and hold down but you still have to be careful . I still use it, no space for a milling machine.Still love my old 9” south bend lathe . Thanks for the video’s.
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I had a lot of use for my Taig milling attachment before owning a proper milling machine. Quite limited travel (2inches!) but for small parts is was a lot of fun. Still better than clamping the part awkwardly on the slide. Even made clamps to hold a digital caliper on the attachment as a poor man's DRO.
That might be a Sheldon ? I'll have to look at my 11/44" and my Milling attachment. Nice show. Yep, I checked mine and the no name is like mine. I keep a turned piece of maple in the hole. I have a nice tool post grinder as well. 🙂
Always better to use than a hammer, chisel, and file!
Thank you!
nice collection, I have a couple of the Palmgren 400v size.
Great tutorial Mr Pete, I’ve been searching for an attachment for my Enco lathe. No luck so far but I will keep looking. Thanks for the videos sir!
Vevor has several different sizes available, though they aren't specifically for your machine. If you just need it for a single job you can bolt the work to an angle plate mounted to the cross slide or compound. That sounds sketchy, but it would probably be more rigid than a part cantilevered out 6 inches like the palmgren milling attachment he showed.
Would you have a Clausing lathe accessories catalog? Would like to see what a steady rest looks like for a 10" lathe. I'm in the process of building one. Note: 70 degree ways, not 90 like other lathes.
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I’d love to see a tear down of the Palmgren. Would one use collets to hold the cutters in the head stick? That kind of seems to be what was pictured. Very interesting video, thank you for sharing.
Yep, you need a collet to hold the cutter. Travers tool has them individually or in sets for a #2 or #3 Morse taper lathe spindle. I just bought a #3 Morse taper set just last week for about $110 that included 5 collets up to 3/4 inch diameter shanks. A chuck isn't suitable to hold the hardened shank of an end mill. Anything other than a light cut will suck the cutter out of the chuck into the work. The collets have a set screw that locks into the flat on the end mill to prevent that from happening. Plus the cutter must be held dead nuts on center or one flute will do all the cutting and any feature like a key way will be cut over size. Lastly the collet will get the milling cutter several inches closer to the lathe's spindle bearings giving more rigidity to the cutter and more room for your work.
@@aceroadholder2185 great explanation. Thanks. I have seen ER collets as well that have a pin that engages with the flat on the tool to prevent slippage. Thanks
Have you had a chance to evaluate any of the import milling attachment that came out in recent years? I think they're either coming from China or India, I see 3 versions ranging from mid-60's to mid-160's price. One's a small one, one's a fixed, and another one's a swivel like the atlas w/two different vise options. I'm tempted given the price.
No, I have not a valuated any of those. Really do not know much about them but I do know that you get what you pay for.
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
For very light occasional use I think they have a purpose especially when a dedicated milling machine isn't practical or possible. I think these attachments probably had rigidity on par with the many "mini-mills" you see advertised today. I have a Sieg SX3 mini-mill in my shop which displaced the Atlas milling attachment I used to own and use on my Atlas 10-inch lathe. The mini-mill is much easier to use and has greater travel on all axes but I'd say the rigidity is only slightly greater...it's still a mini-mill and certainly not a Bridgeport.
Even a Bridgeport feels as rigid as a mini mill after you use a 40 taper machine.
@@RichieRichOverdrive True. It's all a matter of perspective. I've heard Keith Fenner refer to his Bridgeport as a "glorified drill press" :-)
Lyle, I sure wish I had the milling attachment for my old 10-inch South Bend! I know I wouldn't use it much since I've got a mill-drill for milling, but I'd still like to find one. Maybe I'll stumble over one at a garage sale or similar one of these days. I'm not anywhere near an "industrial" part of the country, so I'd have to find a home shop Machinist selling his/her stuff I guess.
I would love to get one for my 9A.
thank you Mr Pete
Love your videos…. Thank you
Will the Craftsman vise part of the milling attach fit on the cross slide?
I see that your Clausing 5914 compound slide had a rough life. Mine is cracked down to the way screw. Just ordered 2 blanks to fabricate one. I think my Beaver mill is up to it.
Yes it will. At least my 6" one does on my Atlas 618.
Hello Mr.Pete. Could you provide information on purchasing your how to series? Thank you, Scott
I will be traveling for a few weeks. So watch my videos in three weeks for one of my promos regarding my video courses. Thank you for asking
@@mrpete222 okay!
If you don't have a Bridgeport, or a horizontal mill, or a shaper, like you do Tubalcain, the milling attachment can be the difference in getting a job done. While they definitely lack RIGIDITY, with light cuts and good setup, they can be satisfactory. Appreciate the run down on the different ones, I would take Brand X if it would fit my SB 13" it looks beefy.
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Thanks again.
Your unknown milling attachment may be a very early version of the South Bend milling attachment. I don't recall any aftermarket one's in years past. Especially any that were advertised in the popular magazines we like to look at.
Dad bought one of those Palmgren milling attachments for our 9" SBL back in the 1960's. What a wimpy attachment! Tore up many a project trying to mill with it. About all it was good for was drilling a few holes. Still have battle scars using it and in fact, still have the attachment! Its buried deep in the dungeons on the SBL cabinet! Thanks for sharing, Ken
lol
Thanks for sharing 👍
Too much to type. They are on the verge of being a bit silly.
Hard on the carriage. That said, I've done some milling on an early 1911, 12" and it can be done. The compound mounting is quite different into the late 20's anyway so this is very interesting to me.
Because of this video, I grabbed the milling attachment that came with the 1928, 9C and studied it again.
Very interesting video!
Thank you!
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Hate to keep bugging but really like to know the name of the adapter you said I needed to use 5c collets in my heavy10 south bend. Thank you.
I don’t think it actually has a name. Probably a number. Go to vintage machinery.org, and look through an old south bend catalog
@@mrpete222 thank you so much for taking time to answer me.
man would i love a millling attachment for my logan 10"
I have a 'milling attachment' that belongs a Myford ML7. It is the one on the left seen in this video: ruclips.net/video/xVfnhy35QQs/видео.html
As per a milling machine table, it just has 3 T slots so you can clamp work directly to it - or clamp a suitable vice in which to mount your work.
It saddens me somewhat to see it in the garage where we had the ML7. Dad decided to keep it and not sell it with the lathe. Now we have a mill, we've no need for it.
Freedom fighters across the world are supported from across the world! Hold the line.
Ye ha!
Only one worth useing is the atlas because it's not off set,, you lose everything lathe milling if attachment isn't above mount
True
Check out the Boxford. ruclips.net/video/Y5KDaKK-c9g/видео.html
Aw man you’re hogging them all
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I'm not a fan of them. Prefer to use the real thing.
Mr Pete I have made a couple of comments on your videos about the Canadian Freedom Truckers... you haven't even posted a simple yes like you do on most comments...You like to fly your little American flag in videos and rant on things...Take it a step further...You Have a large VOICE...it is needed...Lyle you are certainly aware of what's going on and soon IT will be coming to a town near you...
Yes, I fully support those truckers. It looks like that Prime Minister is another Nazi Hitler. They actually need an overthrow of the government
@@mrpete222 thank you...I hesitated to write that previous post...I look at watching yours and the others videos I watch as educational, entertaining, a pleasure to watch and, a great escape ...Lyle your rants are true and they basically are about crumbling freedoms and morals and, that is why we love your rants . You are someone who has a gift of people listening to your words and, I believe we're close to being in a "all hands on deck" moment and if just one person reads your comment and thinks about our future that is a good thing. It is a shame that it has come to this yet, I feel that if I can get the word out and get people to become aware and spread the word we can keep and preserve some of the freedoms we have left. Thank You and keep those videos coming...
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