It's important to note that Punk, Cabana and Hero didn't do death matches and insisted that the ring be properly cleaned for them before going on. Rotten can brag all he wants about bringing them in but he had nothing to do with their work.
@@uainjansun Yea, but he was a lackey for Raven there and didn't get to show much personality (also it was comical because he was tearing down the house in a feud with Raven nearly everywhere else). A lot of his rep for match quality began in IWA:MS, not that he wasn't solid before, but his stint there really helped accelerate his climb to stardom via ROH.
@@uainjansun He did some standard hardcore matches with chairs, kendo sticks and such but nothing with light bulbs, glass or wire. So yes to hardcore but no to death matches.
The crazy thing is there's tons of really shitty things he did that are less known. For instance, after wrestler Rollin' Hard died in 2008, Ian Rotten held a tribute show for him, promising all donations and ticket sales would go directly to Rollin's family. What did he ACTUALLY do with the money? Why, take it to pay his own rent, of course. And this wasn't the only time he exploited deaths, either.
@Bass Player how come when I listen to the interview all I hear is Ian defending himself pretty well and actually exposes the interviewer for not knowing his shit.
@@vladdawoken4181 Are you sure you're thinking of the right Rotten? Axl could be decently spoken, but Ian couldn't make up a good explanation or defense to save his life.
This video is missing so much. Ian rarely paid employees. Most of the checks bounced. Younger wrestlers were "paid in exposure" Paid known pill addict JC Bailey in pills. Stole money from a charity show Pretty much single handily got indy shows banned from Kentucky After JC Bailey died, Ian showed up to the funeral, uninvited, then asked for gas money to drive back home Sexually assaulting Micke Knuckles (allegedly, but those two had an ongoing relationship while Ian was married and had several kids) Had hep c, still wrestled and didn't tell anyone He was a manager at a Taco Bell, but got fired after they found out he had hep c There's a lot more. It's been a long while since I kept up with this scum.
He also gangjumped Dustin Lee with his goons and “worked him over” because he was expected to “pay his dues”. He also made offensive remarks to Thumbtack Jack regarding his German-ness (no prizes for guessing what he called him) and claimed that Jack had “talked shit about his little boy”. Jack had only made a harmless joke that was NOT about his kid. Ian can dish it out but can never take it himself. It’s only OK when HE talks shit about others, nobody else can ever do it to him. Fucking asshole!
He also took all the money from a show and went to a riverboat and gambled it all away, just like Paul Heyman had done with the gate money from several ECW shows. He went to Atlantic City and gambled and lost $17,000 in one night!!!
Even the whole Levy situation overlooks so much. ‘Rookie’ is a massive understatement he literally said oh I like wrestling so Rotten put him in a deathmatch. That was his training. Levy was also autistic likely contributing to why he accepted to do such a dumb thing, while rotten believed he could easily exploit him. The bloody Mass Transit accident was probably a better situation than this one as at least the promoters didn’t know he was untrained and Heyman didn’t decide to start a lynch mob post match
Something to add; thanks to IWA Mid South's deathmatch antics, it became insanely hard to book in that area for pro wrestling at all, since so many people associated pro wrestling with Ian Rotten's trash product.
Just Kentucky, and that’s when he started running Indiana as the only place for IWA-MS. Kentucky had wrestling in a choke hold (pun intended) if there was so much as an accidental prick, a wrestler used his fingernails to hard and now there’s a single dot of blood, the match had to be called off. I understand why, but you’d think they’d be okay with doing bloodwork every so often so matches just don’t end abruptly because your hangnail ripped off or something. They’ve finally started loosing the laws on that and it’s brought new wrestlers and a few more wrestling companies.
@vladdawoken4181 2 sides? Ian Rotten is a pos who ran garbage shows, then there's Corny who tried to run a legit business. Not really sure what point you're trying to make. If Ian wasn't running those dumb shows, Jim wouldn't have had to fight against it....
I never thought I would hear of anyone Corny could/would hate more than he hates Shitstain (Vince Russo). I thought wrong. This Rotten a_hole would leave Russo spitting dust. If Jim hasn't done a video on Rotten, that needs to change ASAP!
Speaking of JC Bailey, there is a video on grapplevision that has the 2 hour video a radio station did with Ian Rotten shortly after his death. JC's dad, Mickie knuckles, and other call in to tear him a new one. Even the host goes in on him. If you got two hours to kill, grab a bite to eat and a cold drink, kick back, and enjoy.
Why Rotten even stayed on the call is amazing to me. It’s gotta be because he’s convinced his sociopathic grifter self that he’s done no wrong. It really is an extraordinary listen.
Ian was working at the Taco Bell in Joliet,Illinois until some of the boys found out and alerted the health department that he was making food with being positive for Hep C. They took him of the food line and put him at the drive thru window taking the money until he fucked that up.
He also wrestled in blood matches knowing he had hep c and didn’t tell his opponents a thing. What a nice guy. Not to mention beat the shit out of Mickey knuckles and his wife and supposedly his disabled kid as well. I mean fuck Mickey Knuckles but she didn’t deserve that shit.
I remember being a ring announcer in the Southern Indiana area some years ago. IWA-MS had been banned from a few venues and one venue banned all wrestling overall because of them. It took a lot of work on our booker's part and working with the venue to prove that not all wrestling shows are this way. That some of us were a more family friendly show. When we got back in with that venue, IWA-MS tried to weasel their way back in too. Eventually the venue just said no more wrestling at all.
Should definitely add promoters to this, Rob Black fits in perfectly as we are on a Deathmatch roll right now. The DSOTR on him pretty much says it all 😭
I love that the guy who runs this channel has little to no knowledge of any wrestling outside of WWE. Not even WWF or WCW, it's like he started watching wrestling in 2016 and only here and there. It's an interesting perspective and provides a more mainstream/non-fan context for casual viewers or non-fans who are only watching this video for the whole car crash/shock factor/true crime podcast morbid curiosity factor
I mean I think it's pretty cool man you got to remember that a lot of us have never seen New Japan or any of these smaller territories like in Maryland or hell Atlanta Florida or anywhere like that so pretty much if we don't see you on the main channel aew or WWE we'll probably never see them
I actually dig the viewpoint he has, you know? I can go to a hundred and a half over channels to hear the Giganerd perspective, but hearing how someone with a mainstream view looks at the product is pretty neat.
@@aluminumsalmongames6277 💯definitely and you can usually tell those pretty quickly by being insufferable gatekeeper types who actually prefer wrestling ratings and profile being down,,, "becuz real wrestlers don't care about money or fame,it's about the ART!!" so cringe,,,
What are the fuck are talking about lol? I think need watch more one video on this channel because he has extensively covered TNA/Impact for years. I learned more about the history of that company from this channel and MarkyD123 than anywhere else on this site. You're kind full of shit there bruh.
I agree. This guy know next to nothing about the history of US wrestling. He is just making money watching other RUclips videos and making his own. Anyone can do that. Probably some 20 yr old UK kid
This came up on my recommended and after I seen Drake Younger as the thumbnail for a previous video and figured this was a crappy channel, does it piss you off that Drake Younger has unpopular political beliefs and is still wrestling???
@@vladdawoken4181 Hey! I still think deathmatch wrestling is good as still needs to remain as legal, but it needs to be remain IN the underground with a new name.
Yeah, if it was immoral Griz did it. Hell is a worse place for him being there. He is the MOST evil scumbag in wrestling history, and that history includes Moolah.
@@Raven431it wasn't a death match but she did attempt a risky bump which didn't go right. The tears in Ian's eyes were as sweet as sugar! He knew that karma had gobsmacked him lol.
It's too bad Axl got pigeonholed as a Deathmatch guy. He was a pretty solid wrestler. His time with Ian both as a tag team and their feud, ruined that reputation.
To tell the truth Top10 you could do a whole three-part series on Death Match promoters not just The Rottens; also, could do a six-part series on promoters in general. I.e. CZW, Chikara, WWF/E, and ECCW (Originally Extreme Canadian Championship Wrestling under NWA but once they left them they changed Extreme to Elite and some stuff happened after that),.
I hung out with Axl rotten alot in riesertown Maryland he came to the library every day and numerous times I got autograph from him before he died #RIPAXLRotten
@Cryptopsy666 he really was cool he would literally come to the library and check is Facebook but anyone there that was a wrestling fan could get legit autograph stuff from him he had ECW headshots and a tna one from his 1 match there
It literally looked like one of the pricks performed a one-legged Coup dé Grace right onto Mike's neck. Had he botched it, that could've paralyzed him, or in a worst-case scenario, actually kill him. (I know that it's Finn Bálor's finisher and that it's usually performed by driving both feet into the chest, but at the same time, what happened to Mike in that moment resembled a modified version.)
I have heard because of how Ian Rotten did not tell the owners/managers of certain venues in Kentucky what he was going to be doing, for a good portion of time, Pro Wrestling could not get booked in 10,000 plus seat Hockey Arenas, which is why Cornette despises Ian Rotten, not just for being a "Garbage Wrestler."
The state of KY really clamped down on regulating wrestling in the late 90s and really only in the last couple years have begun to ease up. No blood allowed on shows at all. No brawling outside the barricades around the ring. All wrestlers subject to random drug tests. Everyone from wrestlers to managers to refs have to be licensed by the state. The blood and brawling rules are pretty directly related to what Ian was doing in Louisville in the late 90s. When IWA moved to Indiana the regulations were basically non-existent. However, it didn't take long for things to start happening (like all the National Guard Armories in the state of IN banning ALL wrestling thanks to Ian). IWA literally tore up multiple venues to the point where owners banned not just them but all wrestling from occurring there. Ian's tactics had a significant impact on a lot of talent and promotions way outside the realm of IWA Mid South.
@@ismaelfreytes1106...yep, you are right, I always confuse them up. But anyways, it is insane that you are paid so little for all the punishment you are going to receive
Lmao a man who listens to his audience, good on you, sir For someone who didn't know who he was, you got a lot of the broad strokes, particularly his relationship with JC.
I used to attend IWA Mid-South from late 2013 to 2014. I enjoyed the matches there by and large, especially since he did a lot for a young girl who was battling cancer and was regularly in attendance, but there were certainly problems there. For instance, one night Ian brought Jeff and Karen Jarrett in and didn't pay them, which led to Karen putting Ian on blast at the end of the night over the microphone. In late March of 2014, I won a raffle and got to be handcuffed to a wrestler during one of the matches. During much of the match we simply sat side by side and watched the match, but at some point the wrestler I was handcuffed to got into a tussle with another wrestler, and he ended up bleeding on my arm. I don't think I ended up contracting any diseases from that, as I would surely know by now if I had, but it was still a very scary situation. I stopped attending their matches after the King and Queen of the Death Matches event after buying a DVD set of the event that Ian promised to mail out and never receiving it. I later boycotted wrestling in Indiana altogether after being bullied on social media by Zane Pasley. It's a real shame, too, because I had developed friendships with several of the wrestlers, many of whom I believe could go places if they got the right exposure.
Two other notes about Ian Rotten: 1. CM Punk at the height of his WWE popularity (we're talking post-pipebomb promo) tweeted out that Ian Rotten still owed him money. 2. I heard of at least one instance were he took all of the money the show made and instead of paying his wrestlers, he lied and said they didn't make any money and blew it all on drugs for himself. I never got into IWA-MS. Even when I was watching deathmatch wrestling, I always saw them as a poor man's CZW (which, boy is that saying something) and I've heard nothing but horror stories of wrestlers working for Ian Rotten over the years. The man is the epitome of a scumbag.
Punk never would have made it to the WWF if it wasn't for Ian. Punk specifically asked for IWA footage to be on his career DVD. CZW was founded by a no talent hack that couldn't make it to ECW, whereas IWA was founded by an ECW Original. I love that everyone talking shit about Ian never actually went to 1 show.
I was there for the Mike Levy Incident, Made the flight from the UK (Deathmatch fan in the day...... I was young) and my god, everything that happened after that match....
@@AJ-bx6fi Well without a doubt you are a true wrestling fan. I think a lot of us got swept away in the post-ECW, ultra violent, indi scene. I know it was definitely Necro Butcher that inspired me to travel 4 hours to South Philadelphia to a CZW COD in 2006. IT WAS WORTH IT! But other indi shows seemed a little too "not my style" and I honestly feel like Ian Rotten IWA would have been like that. What was it like for you? Did you feel out of place at all? Or was your pro wrestling thirst quenched? Interesting to talk to you!
@@BradleyVolk3 Yeah, it was the post ECW / Finding cZw, and the Necro Butcher that got me into it... little Fun Fact, Dont know if you remember the Necro Butcher Website back in the day? That was me! lol, He was one of the nicest guys ever! glad to see he is back to health now and wrestling again
@@AJ-bx6fi No man! i never knew he had a website! I never have seen it. Do you mean that you made and ran the website? Either way, I 100% for sure would have been on it on a regular basis. I'll never forget the pop he got in the ecw arsna at COD, when they showed the matches lined up for the evening on the big titantron. The crowd was psyched, and when they showed each match the crowd would cheer, on a scale from 1 to 10, everybody cheered about a 6 or 7. Dude when they showed Necro vs Drake the crowd went to 11. I mean they went fuckin BALISTIC. it was fuckin awesome. i then knew that i was not alone. And Necro himself knew that everyone was there for him. He was so humble and thankful after he lost the match. walkin back to the locker room, he just held up and clenched his fist and mouthing the words "thank you" over and over, looking in every direction of the arena. And yes, thank god he is doin better now. i just wish he would hang up his boots these days instead of still destroying himself just for XPW. He should have hundreds of thousands in the bank for all the shit he has ever done for promoters and companies. Instead he is working for Rob Black for a payday. He deserves so much more. Hes a living legend!!!
One thing you forgot to mention about Ian and JC is that after JC died, Ian showed up to his funeral when he wasn't even invited in the first place, was apparently disrespectful as hell and got kicked out but down right refused to leave. If that wasn't enough, he even had the nerve to ask JCs parents for gas money so he could go. Being an asshole to people who are alive is one thing, but having the audacity to show up to the funeral of someone who he paid in pain pills, disgraced the dead, and made the grieving process for a 28 year olds parents even harder, thats an all new kind of low. JC Baileys official cause of death may have indeed been a brain aneurysm, but Ian just made things worse instead of better for doing what he did
Ian named his son after JC and wanted to pay his respects, Ian is just blamed for everything, he makes a great scapegoat for brainless wrestling fans...
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 I don't have to make content to prove y'all are hypocrites that won't hold WWE to the same standards that y'all hold Ian to... smh
@@vladdawoken4181 That still proves that it’s irrelevant on what you’re trying to bring up, and even though I still support deathmatch wrestling to be forever legal I’m still in favor to every person who accuses Ian with each detail they show.
there's a shoot interview of thumbtack jack online talking about the time he stayed with him during a us tour I think. some fucked up stuff, basically him doing drugs in his room the whole day while his son went through jacks stuff and destroying dvds, that's also where the oven joke came from if anybody remembers it
Thumbtack Jack is German, hence Ian made offensive remarks to him regarding the N a z i s burning people in ovens. I wouldn’t have expected anything less from the guy. I come from a German family myself and I’ve also had remarks of that nature made to me in the past!
I recently saw a video from when Ian competed in ECW, where he was billed as being from Newcastle Upon Tyne, England (Which is where I'm from). For anyone who is curious about Newcastle, I can assure you, no one from Newcastle would be as heartless and, dare I say, rotten as this guy
So the very worst ISN'T Buck Zumhoffe? Okay then, if you say so I reckon. He's an older name (80s-90s WWF jobber), so I'm starting to wonder if you've even heard of him.
Make a documentary on the shady business practices of Paul heyman how he didn’t pay wrestlers and how he seemingly got away with it and how he still able to work in the wrestling industry.
@Vladd Awoken OK... Name someone who is in the high ranks of wrestling, which has publicly named him as an inspiration or mentor?? Also. You ve commented on all these posts under the video. Is that you IAN? 👀 👁
@@williambrown8374 CM Punk has IWA footage on his DVD, my friend was in the clip. IWA was the inspiration for PWG which is the basis for AEW, every wrestling nerd hating on Ian literally is clueless about the history of wrestling... smh
@Vladd Awoken Alright. Could we agree he has conducted himself as a cunt, historically..Maybe he is a great guy but has portrayed his real-life self in an unbecoming manner possibly?
that one at 4:15,,,that doesn't even look like a spot so much as literally attempted murder especially if they were actually shooting on this guy and weren't trying to protect him in any way,,,,gee wonder why nobody wants these guys around?🤔
Actually Mike Levy DID press charges against Ian but Ian made a deal with Levy. The deal was Ian would offer Levy a IWA contract in exchange to drop all charges so Levy excepted the contract all charges got dropped.
@@xbigwormx Yep haha I mean, the whole incident did start because Mike Levy was an internet mark talking shit on forums and Ian thinks the internet is real so booked him to get beat. Naturally, the internet mark got worked.
I went and found the clip of that girl breaking her leg because he didn't include it in the video. Once the other wrestler moves and the camera shows what happened to her leg, there's some guy in the background that sounds exactly like Louis c.k. going "oh her leg is fucked"
You should have shown the clip where that Tarzan looking wrestler jumped off the apron broke his leg and then he was wanting somebody from the crowd to take him to the hospital did not want to call the ambulance because it would cost money but wanted a fan to pay the ticket price and then leave the show Mickie Knuckles absolutely deserve breaking her leg after what they did to that do to King of the Deathmatch
No I do not I was just at a ton of these shows back in the day because it was a cool Friday night ordeal to get drunk and go watch people beat the shit out of each other and I made a lot of money off wrestlers off these shows by getting them what they wanted it's hilarious it was Ruckus that got me started bringing stuff to the show out of everyone bear that attended he came up to me and said I look like the guy that could score them whatever they want which I am
I have a friend who has been an indie wrestler in the Inland NW for years and he had some issue with Ian Rotten just last year sometime. Idk what happened exactly, but my dude has started focusing purely on “Deathmatch” wrestling since and told me his goal is to get Rotten in a match and shoot so hard on him he won’t ever try to book himself again 🤷🏼♀️😂
@@Sethantoniorodriguez It's kinda hard to explain why we other people enjoy deathmatch wrestling. I enjoy it and respect what the guys do putting their body and careers on the line for the sick entertainment. And some storylines in the deathmatch scene are great too.
I don't know if it's still up on here, but if you haven't watched Grapplevision's video called "The Public Execution of Ian Rotten" I highly recommend it. Rotten agreed to an interview with someone on a podcast and the interviewer plus J.C Bailey's dad absolutely destroyed him. The guy is a living trash can, the fact he believes he "created" CM Punk and Chris Hero is laughable.
Nah Ian defends himself perfectly the host was a moron, he says Ian uses untrained guys then names off a bunch of well known names LOL, dude was an idiot!
I'm going to give my opinion on this… Ian Rotten was accused of many things that is true, hepatitis, drugs to Jc Bailey, he owed money to the fighters, and so on, but the man got good historical fighters, as a mystery. king, cm punk and many more! He wrestled to the death, which is probably stupid to some and I respect his opinion, but between 2000 and 2010 a lot of his shows, if you watch them, were crazy, not because there was money or not, but because of the fandom that was there. generated in the environment, which no longer exists, to good shows, necro, havoc, drake, toby klein, brain damage the toughest men, none of us can last a round above a ring against one of them
If you ever watch an IWA-MS show their ring is one of the most unsafe things I've seen in wrestling. Best of luck to anyone trying to make a name foe themselves working these events.
They were using the same ring in Jeffersonville for years that every other fed uses that runs there... wtf are you talking about. The WWF was always known for having a super hard ring, also the 6 sided ring in TNA was horrible to bump on...
I remember when Vee Infuso (fka The Social Injustice Warrior) covered Mickie Knuckles years ago and mentioned the Mike Levy incident as the reason she was the worst women wrestler of all time.
On the positive side of this promotion,it gave some exposure atleast to the likes of ricochet and chuck taylor (i remember this two had a feud there),seth rollins,and then they feature some well known stars like cesaro,chris hero,punk,samoa joe,amazing red,aj styles etc.
I’ve known Ian most of my life. And for all his short comings he has done a lot of good with the bad. Ian gave me free tickets to shows. He would rent his ring and buildings out for small Indy promoters to use and even do some free training to show us how to wrestle safely. He would give wrestlers down on their luck a place to showcase their talent again like Eddie Guerrero,road dogg Jesse James and many others. He is far from a saint but he has done some good things as well.
Oh yeah, I was one of the promoters that rented his building and ring. But that was because every other place wouldn't allow any wrestling because of Ian tearing every place up. Plus, his prices were somewhat steep and he tried to interject himself and his ideas and workers onto the shows. The money he was making was blown at the Horseshoe casino instead of paying his workers or the rent. Eventually they tossed his ass out.
I'm 🤢DISGUSTED🤮 by just reading the title. Excellent work as always!! 👏💯👍 (This adds to the narrative that a number of Death Match wrestlers work to feed their habit. A masochistic, dope induced, disease-laced LOOP.) 💀🤮💀
It's a shame too because as an amature wrestler, where do you go locally? Like everyone gotta start somewhere, imagine THIS is the place that's supposed to be your ladder to the top organization
Get off your fucking high horse like Shawn Michaels Scott Hall or even as recently as the WWE tag team champions don't have problems with addictions. It's by no means a phenomenon of death match wrestling.
IWA mid south is why WWE banned so many deathmatch wrestlers for the best I used to think it was unfair but Ian Rotten and New Jack are the reasons why Deathmatch wrestlers are banned by WWE
Good Ol' Ian. There was also the time when a fan from Germany paid a lot of money (reportedly at least 1000$) for tons of IWA MS merch which Ian never sent. Ian of course kept the money
Heyyyy Blake0561 that dude is the man when it comes to deathmatch footage, highly recommend his channel
Na his mouth is annoying. Just be SILENT and show the match !!
Facts I love Blake his videos are the best
@@ASCUMBAGWh0re That’s just content theft lol
I'm his new best friend 😉
Blake is the man frfr
Never heard a bad word about Bobby Eaton… never heard a good word about Ian Rotten
Wasn't it Ian Rotten & the other Rotten that Faarooq & Bradshaw kicked the fuck out of on Raw for backing out of a spot?
@@leighlowe1069Nah that was the Public Enemy, Johnny Grunge and Flyboy Rocko Rock.
Fact's
I heard ian killed axl strangely enough
Eaton had many warrants from the 1980s
It's important to note that Punk, Cabana and Hero didn't do death matches and insisted that the ring be properly cleaned for them before going on. Rotten can brag all he wants about bringing them in but he had nothing to do with their work.
Didnt punk competed in some in TNA?
Been beating off for 6 days straight , cawk just stoinks
@@uainjansun Yea, but he was a lackey for Raven there and didn't get to show much personality (also it was comical because he was tearing down the house in a feud with Raven nearly everywhere else). A lot of his rep for match quality began in IWA:MS, not that he wasn't solid before, but his stint there really helped accelerate his climb to stardom via ROH.
@@uainjansun He did some standard hardcore matches with chairs, kendo sticks and such but nothing with light bulbs, glass or wire. So yes to hardcore but no to death matches.
the video mentions david prazak as the one whom brought them in, not rotten. although i dont doubt the shitbag tried to steal credit for it, lol
The crazy thing is there's tons of really shitty things he did that are less known. For instance, after wrestler Rollin' Hard died in 2008, Ian Rotten held a tribute show for him, promising all donations and ticket sales would go directly to Rollin's family. What did he ACTUALLY do with the money? Why, take it to pay his own rent, of course. And this wasn't the only time he exploited deaths, either.
@Bass Player I'm not sure "being too stupid to hang up" is really something to applaud.
Was it rent or pills? I heard stories both ways.
@@rhcwpeps Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was both.
@Bass Player how come when I listen to the interview all I hear is Ian defending himself pretty well and actually exposes the interviewer for not knowing his shit.
@@vladdawoken4181 Are you sure you're thinking of the right Rotten? Axl could be decently spoken, but Ian couldn't make up a good explanation or defense to save his life.
This video is missing so much.
Ian rarely paid employees. Most of the checks bounced.
Younger wrestlers were "paid in exposure"
Paid known pill addict JC Bailey in pills.
Stole money from a charity show
Pretty much single handily got indy shows banned from Kentucky
After JC Bailey died, Ian showed up to the funeral, uninvited, then asked for gas money to drive back home
Sexually assaulting Micke Knuckles (allegedly, but those two had an ongoing relationship while Ian was married and had several kids)
Had hep c, still wrestled and didn't tell anyone
He was a manager at a Taco Bell, but got fired after they found out he had hep c
There's a lot more. It's been a long while since I kept up with this scum.
He also gangjumped Dustin Lee with his goons and “worked him over” because he was expected to “pay his dues”. He also made offensive remarks to Thumbtack Jack regarding his German-ness (no prizes for guessing what he called him) and claimed that Jack had “talked shit about his little boy”. Jack had only made a harmless joke that was NOT about his kid. Ian can dish it out but can never take it himself. It’s only OK when HE talks shit about others, nobody else can ever do it to him. Fucking asshole!
He also took all the money from a show and went to a riverboat and gambled it all away, just like Paul Heyman had done with the gate money from several ECW shows. He went to Atlantic City and gambled and lost $17,000 in one night!!!
He also admitted a physical altercation with a minor. Such a lovely Christian guy.
Even the whole Levy situation overlooks so much. ‘Rookie’ is a massive understatement he literally said oh I like wrestling so Rotten put him in a deathmatch. That was his training. Levy was also autistic likely contributing to why he accepted to do such a dumb thing, while rotten believed he could easily exploit him. The bloody Mass Transit accident was probably a better situation than this one as at least the promoters didn’t know he was untrained and Heyman didn’t decide to start a lynch mob post match
I once knew someone who worked for Ian for a time, said he'd tried to pay him in sandwiches that had gone bad.
Something to add; thanks to IWA Mid South's deathmatch antics, it became insanely hard to book in that area for pro wrestling at all, since so many people associated pro wrestling with Ian Rotten's trash product.
@nero48 top 3 of corneys most hated in people in wrestling.
@nero48 There's a live interview also where JC Bailey's father calls in and confronts Ian. It's uncomfortable on the one hand, but very vindicating.
Just Kentucky, and that’s when he started running Indiana as the only place for IWA-MS. Kentucky had wrestling in a choke hold (pun intended) if there was so much as an accidental prick, a wrestler used his fingernails to hard and now there’s a single dot of blood, the match had to be called off. I understand why, but you’d think they’d be okay with doing bloodwork every so often so matches just don’t end abruptly because your hangnail ripped off or something.
They’ve finally started loosing the laws on that and it’s brought new wrestlers and a few more wrestling companies.
It also had to do with Jim Cornette fighting it so hard that the commission just said fuck it all. There are 2 sides to every story...
@vladdawoken4181 2 sides? Ian Rotten is a pos who ran garbage shows, then there's Corny who tried to run a legit business. Not really sure what point you're trying to make. If Ian wasn't running those dumb shows, Jim wouldn't have had to fight against it....
Jim Cornette strongly approves of this video. #OutlawMudshow
I never thought I would hear of anyone Corny could/would hate more than he hates Shitstain (Vince Russo). I thought wrong. This Rotten a_hole would leave Russo spitting dust. If Jim hasn't done a video on Rotten, that needs to change ASAP!
Speaking of JC Bailey, there is a video on grapplevision that has the 2 hour video a radio station did with Ian Rotten shortly after his death. JC's dad, Mickie knuckles, and other call in to tear him a new one. Even the host goes in on him. If you got two hours to kill, grab a bite to eat and a cold drink, kick back, and enjoy.
It Is a great listen… hard to hear at points, but totally worth it
Can not recommend this video enough
I heard he had to be paid to leave JC Bailey's funeral I don't know if there's any truth to this
this was gold
Why Rotten even stayed on the call is amazing to me. It’s gotta be because he’s convinced his sociopathic grifter self that he’s done no wrong. It really is an extraordinary listen.
Ian was working at the Taco Bell in Joliet,Illinois until some of the boys found out and alerted the health department that he was making food with being positive for Hep C. They took him of the food line and put him at the drive thru window taking the money until he fucked that up.
Wow really?? I’m glad he was flat broke, working fast food. Dude is horrible
I live in Louisville, he got exposed on the news WDRB FOX 41 at Taco Bell on 3rd and Palatka For THE SAME THING.
He also wrestled in blood matches knowing he had hep c and didn’t tell his opponents a thing. What a nice guy. Not to mention beat the shit out of Mickey knuckles and his wife and supposedly his disabled kid as well. I mean fuck Mickey Knuckles but she didn’t deserve that shit.
@@MyNameIsUnavailablehe has made it his mission to take down Taco Bell from the inside.
@@alansteel BRUH! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You left out how he attended Bailey's funeral after being told not to show and then refusing to leave until he was given gas money
Eric Bischoff was kicked out of Rick Rude's funeral, Ian didn't kill the guy he named his son after JC... smh
No his son named himself that.
The state of Kentucky outlawed bleeding because of him and the WWE wouldn't run shows there for years
Kentucky? Ban bleeding? That’s not very patriotic. 😂
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 ok clown.
@@corybowman9583 Okay, liberal. 😂
I remember being a ring announcer in the Southern Indiana area some years ago. IWA-MS had been banned from a few venues and one venue banned all wrestling overall because of them. It took a lot of work on our booker's part and working with the venue to prove that not all wrestling shows are this way. That some of us were a more family friendly show. When we got back in with that venue, IWA-MS tried to weasel their way back in too. Eventually the venue just said no more wrestling at all.
Should definitely add promoters to this, Rob Black fits in perfectly as we are on a Deathmatch roll right now. The DSOTR on him pretty much says it all 😭
Deathmatch wrestling is trash
With what happened to Daffney after Bloody Valentine 2003, I wouldn't be surprised if he had something to do with it.
And he decided to come back to the business... With an even shittier version of the company he made.
Rob Black cutting the thumb from a wrestler is as low as you can get.
@@therainmakerinsider he himself didn’t, but its heavily speculated and kinda obvious he was the one who set up the hit on Messiah
I love that you put happy music in the IWA match montage
Yes
I actually LOLed
I love that the guy who runs this channel has little to no knowledge of any wrestling outside of WWE. Not even WWF or WCW, it's like he started watching wrestling in 2016 and only here and there. It's an interesting perspective and provides a more mainstream/non-fan context for casual viewers or non-fans who are only watching this video for the whole car crash/shock factor/true crime podcast morbid curiosity factor
I mean I think it's pretty cool man you got to remember that a lot of us have never seen New Japan or any of these smaller territories like in Maryland or hell Atlanta Florida or anywhere like that so pretty much if we don't see you on the main channel aew or WWE we'll probably never see them
I actually dig the viewpoint he has, you know? I can go to a hundred and a half over channels to hear the Giganerd perspective, but hearing how someone with a mainstream view looks at the product is pretty neat.
@@aluminumsalmongames6277 💯definitely and you can usually tell those pretty quickly by being insufferable gatekeeper types who actually prefer wrestling ratings and profile being down,,,
"becuz real wrestlers don't care about money or fame,it's about the ART!!"
so cringe,,,
What are the fuck are talking about lol? I think need watch more one video on this channel because he has extensively covered TNA/Impact for years. I learned more about the history of that company from this channel and MarkyD123 than anywhere else on this site. You're kind full of shit there bruh.
I agree. This guy know next to nothing about the history of US wrestling. He is just making money watching other RUclips videos and making his own. Anyone can do that. Probably some 20 yr old UK kid
This came up on my recommended and after I seen Drake Younger as the thumbnail for a previous video and figured this was a crappy channel, does it piss you off that Drake Younger has unpopular political beliefs and is still wrestling???
The woketard wrestling fans of today have no idea what good wrestling is...
@@vladdawoken4181 Name one besides Ian Rotten.
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 wtf are you talking about, stop trolling Ian, go watch IWA and learn something!
@@vladdawoken4181 Hey! I still think deathmatch wrestling is good as still needs to remain as legal, but it needs to be remain IN the underground with a new name.
Isn’t Grizzly Smith still holding the top spot?
Yeah, if it was immoral Griz did it. Hell is a worse place for him being there. He is the MOST evil scumbag in wrestling history, and that history includes Moolah.
eh,it's kind of a toss-up between him and the fabulous moolah,,
which makes me wonder if they have intergender wrestling matches in hell?🤔
I hear they also have Fritz von Erich, Chris Benoit & Jimmy Snuka on their roster.
*Buck Zumhofe joins the chat*
maybe not THE worst, but still fucking repulsive anyways
The last I heard about him was on twitter and of course it’s about him not paying his guys.
Hey, haven’t I seen you before?
@RIOTSTARTERB at least not with money. With illicit substances, maybe, but not with $$$.
I hope that an episode of Dark Side of the Ring season 4 is done on Ian Rotten, Jim Cornette would happily take part in that.
What a mighty fine idea that fucking is! YES.
The Mickie spot was infamous because she was supposed to be signed to TNA to be the muscle for the Beautiful People
Knowing that she still did a death match.
@@Raven431 Granted that had nothing to do with her breaking her leg, it was a freak accident
@@Raven431it wasn't a death match but she did attempt a risky bump which didn't go right. The tears in Ian's eyes were as sweet as sugar! He knew that karma had gobsmacked him lol.
I remember Ian Rotten. The first match that I saw of him was the Thai pei death match he had against Axel Rotten in ECW
That was a great match
That was a good blood fest match.
It's too bad Axl got pigeonholed as a Deathmatch guy. He was a pretty solid wrestler. His time with Ian both as a tag team and their feud, ruined that reputation.
That's the only match I've ever seen him in. Thanks to an ECW dvd.
@@BradleyVolk3 Same here. ECW Blood Sport: The Most Violent Matches. I have the same DVD.
To tell the truth Top10 you could do a whole three-part series on Death Match promoters not just The Rottens; also, could do a six-part series on promoters in general. I.e. CZW, Chikara, WWF/E, and ECCW (Originally Extreme Canadian Championship Wrestling under NWA but once they left them they changed Extreme to Elite and some stuff happened after that),.
Grapplevision has a vid called “Bad Promoters Ruin Everything”.
I hung out with Axl rotten alot in riesertown Maryland he came to the library every day and numerous times I got autograph from him before he died #RIPAXLRotten
Axl always seems like a genuine guy and he was a very underrated wrestler that got pigeon holed into the hardcore stuff. R.I.P.
@Cryptopsy666 he really was cool he would literally come to the library and check is Facebook but anyone there that was a wrestling fan could get legit autograph stuff from him he had ECW headshots and a tna one from his 1 match there
Last about IWA was he tried running at The Arena in Jeffersonville, Indiana a few months ago and the show never happened.
That Mike Levi beating was hard to watch. The fact that he wasn't killed is almost a miracle.
It's Mike LEVY, this channel don't even know how to say his name.
Yeah Mike Levy. Pronounced Leh-VEE. And that was some fuckin total, low class, straight up sleazy bullshit.
It literally looked like one of the pricks performed a one-legged Coup dé Grace right onto Mike's neck. Had he botched it, that could've paralyzed him, or in a worst-case scenario, actually kill him.
(I know that it's Finn Bálor's finisher and that it's usually performed by driving both feet into the chest, but at the same time, what happened to Mike in that moment resembled a modified version.)
I have heard because of how Ian Rotten did not tell the owners/managers of certain venues in Kentucky what he was going to be doing, for a good portion of time, Pro Wrestling could not get booked in 10,000 plus seat Hockey Arenas, which is why Cornette despises Ian Rotten, not just for being a "Garbage Wrestler."
The state of KY really clamped down on regulating wrestling in the late 90s and really only in the last couple years have begun to ease up. No blood allowed on shows at all. No brawling outside the barricades around the ring. All wrestlers subject to random drug tests. Everyone from wrestlers to managers to refs have to be licensed by the state. The blood and brawling rules are pretty directly related to what Ian was doing in Louisville in the late 90s. When IWA moved to Indiana the regulations were basically non-existent. However, it didn't take long for things to start happening (like all the National Guard Armories in the state of IN banning ALL wrestling thanks to Ian). IWA literally tore up multiple venues to the point where owners banned not just them but all wrestling from occurring there. Ian's tactics had a significant impact on a lot of talent and promotions way outside the realm of IWA Mid South.
Man, I was going to say you should mention about Ian Rotten, and now here we are.
The 2 hour destruction of Ian Rotten is one of Legend
They had a guy doing a RAZOR BOARD Deathmatch and they paid him 45 bucks and a couple of hot dogs...
razor wire was in end of days of ecw but is not iwa ms razor wire deathmatch and than sister promotion iwa ds
@@ismaelfreytes1106...yep, you are right, I always confuse them up. But anyways, it is insane that you are paid so little for all the punishment you are going to receive
@@dnickx Tommy dreamer get the razor wire as weapon in ecw first and last time
Brandon Prophet and Corporal Robinson. Brandon's back was shredded. Insane Match.
I'm very surprised you had not heard of Ian Rotten but nice making a video!
"New Breed" was also a badass song from Fear Factory, no relation to ECW.
It was also a faction in the NWA in the 80s, before it became WCW. Dusty Rhodes was involved with it!
WE
ARE
THE NEW
BREED
..that song really *does* rule. the tag team in Championship Wrestling from Florida of the same name were pretty absurd however
Shoot, l have watched pro wrestling so long, I'd tell you Chris Champion and Sean Royal, if you asked me who are the New Breed!!!!😂❤😊
Lmao a man who listens to his audience, good on you, sir
For someone who didn't know who he was, you got a lot of the broad strokes, particularly his relationship with JC.
The wrong Rotten died. R.I.P. Axl
Piss off bro, Ian has done more for wrestling than most. You never went to 1 IWA show... smh
@@vladdawoken4181 Imagine being a mark for Ian Rotten
@@higler. Imagine trashing shit you never saw, go watch WWE drop wrestlers to their death live on PPV...
@@vladdawoken4181 Imagine disrespecting Owen Hart because you're such a mark for Ian Rotten
@@higler. LOL Imagine still watching WWE after bashing Ian Rotten... smh
The music absolutely killed me lol
I used to attend IWA Mid-South from late 2013 to 2014. I enjoyed the matches there by and large, especially since he did a lot for a young girl who was battling cancer and was regularly in attendance, but there were certainly problems there. For instance, one night Ian brought Jeff and Karen Jarrett in and didn't pay them, which led to Karen putting Ian on blast at the end of the night over the microphone. In late March of 2014, I won a raffle and got to be handcuffed to a wrestler during one of the matches. During much of the match we simply sat side by side and watched the match, but at some point the wrestler I was handcuffed to got into a tussle with another wrestler, and he ended up bleeding on my arm. I don't think I ended up contracting any diseases from that, as I would surely know by now if I had, but it was still a very scary situation. I stopped attending their matches after the King and Queen of the Death Matches event after buying a DVD set of the event that Ian promised to mail out and never receiving it. I later boycotted wrestling in Indiana altogether after being bullied on social media by Zane Pasley. It's a real shame, too, because I had developed friendships with several of the wrestlers, many of whom I believe could go places if they got the right exposure.
Chris hero in that pic with cm punk looks like jim before applying at Dunder Mifflin
Love how much you listen to your fan's. Great video my friend ☺️❤️🌎🙏
2:32 - 3:02 I Laugh Out Loud on this one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Best Wrestling soundtrack ever since "Heaven is the place on Earth"
Two other notes about Ian Rotten:
1. CM Punk at the height of his WWE popularity (we're talking post-pipebomb promo) tweeted out that Ian Rotten still owed him money.
2. I heard of at least one instance were he took all of the money the show made and instead of paying his wrestlers, he lied and said they didn't make any money and blew it all on drugs for himself.
I never got into IWA-MS. Even when I was watching deathmatch wrestling, I always saw them as a poor man's CZW (which, boy is that saying something) and I've heard nothing but horror stories of wrestlers working for Ian Rotten over the years. The man is the epitome of a scumbag.
Punk never would have made it to the WWF if it wasn't for Ian. Punk specifically asked for IWA footage to be on his career DVD. CZW was founded by a no talent hack that couldn't make it to ECW, whereas IWA was founded by an ECW Original. I love that everyone talking shit about Ian never actually went to 1 show.
Nice to see Blake0561's footage in here!
He's the man!
Sure he paid the guy in drugs, he just saved the man from having another errand to run. Cut out the middleman…
Exactly, Ian didn't do anything that 1000 promoters before him didn't do...
I was there for the Mike Levy Incident, Made the flight from the UK (Deathmatch fan in the day...... I was young) and my god, everything that happened after that match....
My god. You actually flew over seas to be at one of those shows?!?!?!
@@BradleyVolk3 I know.. I was young, and had more spare cash than I knew what to do with it.......
@@AJ-bx6fi Well without a doubt you are a true wrestling fan. I think a lot of us got swept away in the post-ECW, ultra violent, indi scene. I know it was definitely Necro Butcher that inspired me to travel 4 hours to South Philadelphia to a CZW COD in 2006. IT WAS WORTH IT! But other indi shows seemed a little too "not my style" and I honestly feel like Ian Rotten IWA would have been like that. What was it like for you? Did you feel out of place at all? Or was your pro wrestling thirst quenched? Interesting to talk to you!
@@BradleyVolk3 Yeah, it was the post ECW / Finding cZw, and the Necro Butcher that got me into it... little Fun Fact, Dont know if you remember the Necro Butcher Website back in the day? That was me! lol, He was one of the nicest guys ever! glad to see he is back to health now and wrestling again
@@AJ-bx6fi No man! i never knew he had a website! I never have seen it. Do you mean that you made and ran the website? Either way, I 100% for sure would have been on it on a regular basis. I'll never forget the pop he got in the ecw arsna at COD, when they showed the matches lined up for the evening on the big titantron. The crowd was psyched, and when they showed each match the crowd would cheer, on a scale from 1 to 10, everybody cheered about a 6 or 7. Dude when they showed Necro vs Drake the crowd went to 11. I mean they went fuckin BALISTIC. it was fuckin awesome. i then knew that i was not alone. And Necro himself knew that everyone was there for him. He was so humble and thankful after he lost the match. walkin back to the locker room, he just held up and clenched his fist and mouthing the words "thank you" over and over, looking in every direction of the arena.
And yes, thank god he is doin better now. i just wish he would hang up his boots these days instead of still destroying himself just for XPW. He should have hundreds of thousands in the bank for all the shit he has ever done for promoters and companies. Instead he is working for Rob Black for a payday. He deserves so much more. Hes a living legend!!!
lol, dope, I'm in this video. That being said, some of those clips are from IWA Deep South, which was it's own train wreck, and Diehard Dustin Lee
THE JUMP ON THE LADDER FUCKIN HURT ME HOOOLLYYYY
Appreciate the violent warning. I stopped it and not sure where to pick back up. I’ll just catch u guys on the next video
The happy childish music over the deathmatch spots sent me flying 😂😂😂😂😂.
Gotta do one of these for Rob Black next.
One thing you forgot to mention about Ian and JC is that after JC died, Ian showed up to his funeral when he wasn't even invited in the first place, was apparently disrespectful as hell and got kicked out but down right refused to leave. If that wasn't enough, he even had the nerve to ask JCs parents for gas money so he could go. Being an asshole to people who are alive is one thing, but having the audacity to show up to the funeral of someone who he paid in pain pills, disgraced the dead, and made the grieving process for a 28 year olds parents even harder, thats an all new kind of low. JC Baileys official cause of death may have indeed been a brain aneurysm, but Ian just made things worse instead of better for doing what he did
Phucked up.
Ian named his son after JC and wanted to pay his respects, Ian is just blamed for everything, he makes a great scapegoat for brainless wrestling fans...
@@vladdawoken4181 Why can’t you make content based on your defense for Ian Rotten just to prove it?
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 I don't have to make content to prove y'all are hypocrites that won't hold WWE to the same standards that y'all hold Ian to... smh
@@vladdawoken4181 That still proves that it’s irrelevant on what you’re trying to bring up, and even though I still support deathmatch wrestling to be forever legal I’m still in favor to every person who accuses Ian with each detail they show.
there's a shoot interview of thumbtack jack online talking about the time he stayed with him during a us tour I think. some fucked up stuff, basically him doing drugs in his room the whole day while his son went through jacks stuff and destroying dvds, that's also where the oven joke came from if anybody remembers it
Thumbtack Jack is German, hence Ian made offensive remarks to him regarding the N a z i s burning people in ovens. I wouldn’t have expected anything less from the guy. I come from a German family myself and I’ve also had remarks of that nature made to me in the past!
Dvds? He destroyed Jack's dvds
Operating IWA Midsouth on the hometown furniture store "Going Out Of Business Sale" model
2:48 Easily can be one of the deleted scenes in "Whiplash" movie 😆😆
Can't believe yall didn't cover the ORANGE PISS BUCKET IN CHARLESTOWN, INDIANA!
I wonder what IWA would change when Ian finally goes away?
Grizzly Smith (Jake Roberts dad) should have a video , he did horrible things .
Jake The Snake?
There’s a Dark Side Of The Ring episode about Jake and his infamous father.
@@Teddy42O Phuck, you’re right.
He owes loads of wrestlers AND fans money
I recently saw a video from when Ian competed in ECW, where he was billed as being from Newcastle Upon Tyne, England (Which is where I'm from). For anyone who is curious about Newcastle, I can assure you, no one from Newcastle would be as heartless and, dare I say, rotten as this guy
You must be new to wrestling if you think Ian Rotten is wrestling's biggest degenerate. He might make the top 100 list.
You would you say is n.1
@@jackholman5008 Buck Zum Hoffe
So the very worst ISN'T Buck Zumhoffe? Okay then, if you say so I reckon. He's an older name (80s-90s WWF jobber), so I'm starting to wonder if you've even heard of him.
Weird how you havent heard of him being you said your a fan of Cornette. Jim has buried Ian many times.
I miss Axl Rotten
Make a documentary on the shady business practices of Paul heyman how he didn’t pay wrestlers and how he seemingly got away with it and how he still able to work in the wrestling industry.
You forgot to say WHY they moved from Kentucky to Indiana.
So... Jim Cornette was right about ian?
Drake isn't a degenerate. He's a great guy who reacts everyone around him really well.
Ian isn't that bad either compared to Vinny Mac he's a friggin saint. Ian did more to help wrestling in the midwest than most anyone knows.
@@vladdawoken4181 fuck no
@Vladd Awoken OK... Name someone who is in the high ranks of wrestling, which has publicly named him as an inspiration or mentor?? Also. You ve commented on all these posts under the video. Is that you IAN? 👀 👁
@@williambrown8374 CM Punk has IWA footage on his DVD, my friend was in the clip. IWA was the inspiration for PWG which is the basis for AEW, every wrestling nerd hating on Ian literally is clueless about the history of wrestling... smh
@Vladd Awoken Alright. Could we agree he has conducted himself as a cunt, historically..Maybe he is a great guy but has portrayed his real-life self in an unbecoming manner possibly?
An Ian Rotten episode of Dark Side of the Ring would be legendary. It would be for all the wrong reasons, but it would be legendary.
He’s from the Paul heyman school of promoters. Do a story on Paul heyman history of bot paying wrestlers .
that one at 4:15,,,that doesn't even look like a spot so much as literally attempted murder especially if they were actually shooting on this guy and weren't trying to protect him in any way,,,,gee wonder why nobody wants these guys around?🤔
Ian Rotten needs his own bio drama series. Who could play Ian Rotten???
Jack Black might be a good choice!
@@vladdawoken4181 Jack Black isn’t violent in real life. 🤦🏻♂️
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 you never saw Nacho Libre?
@@vladdawoken4181 Oh ffs! I forgot about Nacho Libre! 🤦🏻♂️
Cool video as always Tom 💯
Seriously Ian Rotten needs a Dark Side of The Ring episode about him
Actually Mike Levy DID press charges against Ian but Ian made a deal with Levy. The deal was Ian would offer Levy a IWA contract in exchange to drop all charges so Levy excepted the contract all charges got dropped.
ah, the old New Jack play.
@@higler. pretty much. That just shows how much of a Mark Mike Levy was for the business.
@@xbigwormx Yep haha I mean, the whole incident did start because Mike Levy was an internet mark talking shit on forums and Ian thinks the internet is real so booked him to get beat. Naturally, the internet mark got worked.
I went and found the clip of that girl breaking her leg because he didn't include it in the video. Once the other wrestler moves and the camera shows what happened to her leg, there's some guy in the background that sounds exactly like Louis c.k. going "oh her leg is fucked"
I respect the death note ost on the investigation part lol 💯
i watched your last video and i am shocked you didn't know who Ian Rotten was.
What is the appeal of watching guys break fluorescent tubes over each other?
Exactly, fluorescent tubes are WAY overused. Why not try something else?
What's with all the stunts with lightbulbs? Those things are dangerous.
You should have shown the clip where that Tarzan looking wrestler jumped off the apron broke his leg and then he was wanting somebody from the crowd to take him to the hospital did not want to call the ambulance because it would cost money but wanted a fan to pay the ticket price and then leave the show Mickie Knuckles absolutely deserve breaking her leg after what they did to that do to King of the Deathmatch
Lol got a link?
No I do not I was just at a ton of these shows back in the day because it was a cool Friday night ordeal to get drunk and go watch people beat the shit out of each other and I made a lot of money off wrestlers off these shows by getting them what they wanted it's hilarious it was Ruckus that got me started bringing stuff to the show out of everyone bear that attended he came up to me and said I look like the guy that could score them whatever they want which I am
I have a friend who has been an indie wrestler in the Inland NW for years and he had some issue with Ian Rotten just last year sometime. Idk what happened exactly, but my dude has started focusing purely on “Deathmatch” wrestling since and told me his goal is to get Rotten in a match and shoot so hard on him he won’t ever try to book himself again 🤷🏼♀️😂
That sounds based.
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 you mean biased
@@vladdawoken4181 Oh come on, he wanted to kick his Rotten @$$! 🤨
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 this story sounds made up, he can't even name the wrestler, sounds shady af bro.
@@vladdawoken4181 Why not go to his channel and go further into detail with him about his friend?
JC Bailey passed away smh 🤦🏾♂️ this was the turning point of why I stop watching hardcore wrestling. People have mental issues same with CZW
You were his (JC Bailey) fan?
Damn I LOVE deathmatches...
ME TOO
How dude like legit, how
@@Sethantoniorodriguez It's kinda hard to explain why we other people enjoy deathmatch wrestling. I enjoy it and respect what the guys do putting their body and careers on the line for the sick entertainment. And some storylines in the deathmatch scene are great too.
@@Sethantoniorodriguez HELLO I LIKE VIOLENCE
@@georgewashingmachine6240 I can tell
I was doing commentary during the Mike Levy incident. Was a disgusting display of bullying and mob mentality.
"it's snowing - in June"
I don't know if it's still up on here, but if you haven't watched Grapplevision's video called "The Public Execution of Ian Rotten" I highly recommend it. Rotten agreed to an interview with someone on a podcast and the interviewer plus J.C Bailey's dad absolutely destroyed him. The guy is a living trash can, the fact he believes he "created" CM Punk and Chris Hero is laughable.
Nah Ian defends himself perfectly the host was a moron, he says Ian uses untrained guys then names off a bunch of well known names LOL, dude was an idiot!
I'm going to give my opinion on this… Ian Rotten was accused of many things that is true, hepatitis, drugs to Jc Bailey, he owed money to the fighters, and so on, but the man got good historical fighters, as a mystery. king, cm punk and many more! He wrestled to the death, which is probably stupid to some and I respect his opinion, but between 2000 and 2010 a lot of his shows, if you watch them, were crazy, not because there was money or not, but because of the fandom that was there. generated in the environment, which no longer exists, to good shows, necro, havoc, drake, toby klein, brain damage the toughest men, none of us can last a round above a ring against one of them
If you ever watch an IWA-MS show their ring is one of the most unsafe things I've seen in wrestling. Best of luck to anyone trying to make a name foe themselves working these events.
They were using the same ring in Jeffersonville for years that every other fed uses that runs there... wtf are you talking about. The WWF was always known for having a super hard ring, also the 6 sided ring in TNA was horrible to bump on...
Bryan Danielson makes this guy look squeaky clean
hahaha I love how 'scumbag' is the word highlighted in the thumbnail over scammer and abuser... gotta love youtube sometimes
And look at all those tens of people they were doing it in front of.
I remember when Vee Infuso (fka The Social Injustice Warrior) covered Mickie Knuckles years ago and mentioned the Mike Levy incident as the reason she was the worst women wrestler of all time.
I popped for the sunny music over the hardcore footy hahah
On the positive side of this promotion,it gave some exposure atleast to the likes of ricochet and chuck taylor (i remember this two had a feud there),seth rollins,and then they feature some well known stars like cesaro,chris hero,punk,samoa joe,amazing red,aj styles etc.
this channel is called top10wrestling but the owner didn't know who Ian Rotten is?
What do you know about him?
The New Breed Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Von, Matt Striker, Elijah Burke
I love BlakeO's stuff. Glad to see him being used as a credit.
I’ve known Ian most of my life. And for all his short comings he has done a lot of good with the bad. Ian gave me free tickets to shows. He would rent his ring and buildings out for small Indy promoters to use and even do some free training to show us how to wrestle safely. He would give wrestlers down on their luck a place to showcase their talent again like Eddie Guerrero,road dogg Jesse James and many others. He is far from a saint but he has done some good things as well.
Stop the lies he’s a terrible person just because he was “good” to you
Oh yeah, I was one of the promoters that rented his building and ring. But that was because every other place wouldn't allow any wrestling because of Ian tearing every place up. Plus, his prices were somewhat steep and he tried to interject himself and his ideas and workers onto the shows. The money he was making was blown at the Horseshoe casino instead of paying his workers or the rent. Eventually they tossed his ass out.
Kind of shocked that you mentioned IWA and talk about death matchs and never heard of Ian
I'm 🤢DISGUSTED🤮 by just reading the title. Excellent work as always!! 👏💯👍
(This adds to the narrative that a number of Death Match wrestlers work to feed their habit. A masochistic, dope induced, disease-laced LOOP.) 💀🤮💀
It's a shame too because as an amature wrestler, where do you go locally? Like everyone gotta start somewhere, imagine THIS is the place that's supposed to be your ladder to the top organization
I literally read this comment in the voice of James Charles.
Get off your fucking high horse like Shawn Michaels Scott Hall or even as recently as the WWE tag team champions don't have problems with addictions.
It's by no means a phenomenon of death match wrestling.
IWA mid south is why WWE banned so many deathmatch wrestlers for the best I used to think it was unfair but Ian Rotten and New Jack are the reasons why Deathmatch wrestlers are banned by WWE
IWA Mid South is like that one mattress store that is always running a going out of business sale but never actually closes.
Good Ol' Ian. There was also the time when a fan from Germany paid a lot of money (reportedly at least 1000$) for tons of IWA MS merch which Ian never sent. Ian of course kept the money
All these degenerates and not one on the guy who abused a child in Japan.... One Kenny Omega