All this teaches me is that once you have enough character and scenario themes you can stick them together like legos to create any kind of new song you want
Ceroba is the final boss of the pacifist route. She's the ending of your journey And her theme just uses almost every other theme you hear through your journey... It's the perfect conclusion
the call and response of showdown and protocol at 3:33 is so good since both starlo and martlet have stuck by your side and are helping you confront ceroba. amazing
so true. this part immediately stood out to me when i first heard this track. it sounds so good and it gets me really emotional. definitely my favorite part of the song.
I like how one of the first motifs is forlorn which means lonely, sad or hopeless and ends with clover symbolically overpowering the song and emerging victorious
5:19 The Yellow Soul motif is so good here, that they actually managed to tie back this probably almost random noise in Your Best Nightmare into the best part of the track, I get transported straight back to Finale and the energy of that fight with this. The music notes here are also on a piece of paper on the News board at the Wild East.
Okay so I didn't believe it at first, then I went to the "Your Best Nightmare" part for the yellow soul, made it slower and at 0.75x speed the sound in the background (aka the theme that isn't flowey's) sounded just like that part. That's my favorite part now, it's both so hidden and obvious
I love the addition of Your Best Nightmare. We sometimes forget Flowey is presiding over the entire battle... literally having the power to just kill it and reset whenever he wants. Man this game gets pretty dark...
I always thought it was the other way around, the specific theme here is originally (chronologically) the Wild East theme, plays here because Ceroba is there a lot, and played during the clover segment of Omega Flowey because that's where Clover spent a large potion of their time in the underground
the once upon a time part is great and all but the part where starlo and martlet's leitmotifs play right after each other is the coolest shit and it's my favorite part of this track
I find it fitting that the song ends with the Kanako B motif. I think it fits perfectly with what Ceroba would be feeling after the fight, just longing to see her daughter better again (or again in general)
Also, at 4:31 I noticed that the guitar (fall I guess) is the same one as used in Guns Blazing (Axis's theme). Its not really a motif but more of a reference I wanted to point out. If im wrong feel free to correct me, ill listen closer again.
The Enemy Approaching bassline IS THERE I hear it, which is fitting considering it's in the moment she's about to change phase and get even more aggressive
I personally feel that it’s Hopes and Dreams that is being referenced in the second phase, especially given the ACTs that work so similarly to the Hope and Dream ACTs in the Asriel fight.
Context is every bit as important to how the motif is used than where the motif itself originally technically comes from, and this song is very clearly meant to invoke Hopes and Dreams in that moment.
I honestly think it’s hopes and dreams because if your doing regular pacifist, ceroba is the equivalent boss fight to the asriel fight in the undertale
honestly surprised chujin's motif doesn't make a single appearance in this song, but the sheer anime power of 6 different character themes in one song is enough to make up for it edit: it does! "kanako B" is actually ceroba's motif, which i had confused for being chujin's.
Oh my gosh it's the Homestuck Sleep/Study Mix person! Hi! Also yeah it's a fun one! It's in the Wild East as well, to which I assume it's intentional, anyway.
I actually never noticed some of these until now! Just a little correction though: the motif you label as "Kanako B" is actually Ceroba's own motif (Blossom)
This is peak composition, truly. They managed to merge every single leitmotif in a way it still maintains the original songs melody, while also creating an ABSOLUTE BANGER. Best track in the entire game (alongside with Gift and Best Friends Forever, of course), well done, UTY Team.
I’ve seen people say that the “your best nightmare” part is more akin to Tenebre Rosso Sangue from ultrakill. I don’t think the UTY theme directly took a motif from ultrakill though, and I’m more inclined to believe that there’s an older more classical piece that I don’t know the name of that inspired to make Tenebre Rosso Sangue
@@thereve988 I'm saying that if Tenebre Rosso Sangue has a sample/references an older piece of classical work, that UTY might be referencing that too rather than your best nightmare. I'm only using Tenebre Rosso Sangue as a title because I don't know any classical music so I wouldn't even know how to describe it in any other terms
I like my (and others) comments where read bc I was probably the one who argued Hopes and Dreams is a part considering the context of literally being the Pacifist final boss and family related issues on both Asriel and Ceroba
@@TheLexuigi honestly I feel like that’s most likely just a pure coincidence, considering the wild east kind of has nothing to do with flowey, and is actually where you see him the least iirc.
It actually makes sense that everyone's theme's make up her own, considering her goal was to save monster kind, and fight for the ones she loved most. It also works because her grief for her family is so powerful and she's barely hanging on because of the last people who truly care for her, being Clover, Martlet, Starlo
LIST OF MOTIFS: 0:27 Justice A 0:38 Justice B 0:50 Kanako A 0:59 Kanako B 1:05 Showdown 1:12 Protocol 1:20 Forlorn 1:28 Mew Mew _______________________ SEQUENCE OF MOTIFS IN MUSIC: 1:56 Kanako B 2:19 Forlorn 2:38 Kanako B 2:41 Protocol 2:44 Justice A 2:56 Kanako B 3:08 Antecipation...? 3:19 Mew Mew 3:32 Showdown 3:35 Protocol 3:38 Showdown 3:41 Protocol 4:02 Showdown 4:08 Showdown 4:14 Showdown/Kanako B 4:20 showdown/Kanako B 4:26 Showdown 4:31 Hopes n' Dreams 4:44 Justice B 4:56 Kanako A 5:19 Yellow Soul 5:44 Yellow Soul/Kanako A 6:08 Kanako B
I love "A Mother's Love"! So many leitmotifs! Especially "Protocol", "Showdown!" and "Justice"! Great! Respect! Undertale Yellow - the best fangame ever!
The fact that starlo’s signature whistle is the last thing heard before the craziness of phase 3, along with how the whistle barely has time to fade away before the drum kicks in… Fitting that ceroba’s theme has so many leitmotifs in it, after all this battle is for the future of monsterkind
First off, absolutely fucking LOVE this track. It’s perfect for the final boss of Pacifist run, and it gave me chills in the same way that Hopes and Dreams did the first time I heard it. However, my favorite parts of the track have to be that seamless transition from the iconic Once Upon a Time/Undertale leitmotif to the Justice one because it’s such a love letter to the original game, and the harmonization between Kanako and Your Best Nightmare. The composer was a fucking GENIUS for putting that leitmotif in, especially since I don’t really hear people talking about it and unfortunately Your Best Nightmare isn’t really popular among the fanbase. Overall, I love that the devs of this game put their hearts into everything about this game, especially the OST, and I just wanted to nerd out a little bit.
I think there is something oddly fitting about 5:19. It's a theme you are unlikely to recognize since it is such a small part of the original Undertale, yet it is still present in this theme. And it makes sense if you assume that the "non-Flowey" part of the soul phase tracks are the humans who once owned the soul. Not to mention that at this point of the story, your fate is practically sealed into being what happened in the original Undertale. Your soul is given to Asgore, your hat / gun is eventually fallen into the dump in waterfall, which therefore is found by Bratty and Catty, then is sold to Frisk (I also remember seeing a fanart where some UTY protagonists were watching the TV and seeing the events of Mettaton EX's fight unfold with Frisk wearing Clover's gear, having the yellow soul, and doing the dramatic pose at the audience which is fun.) (F) * You call for help... (C) * ... you answer the call
i somehow recognized that part from the omega flowey fight in my first playthrough, and It made me feel sad as fuck, like, that this triumphant tune is turned into such an emotionless strings of sounds in the Omega Flowey fight, where Clover has to attack a human, the thing he'd hate the most. I think this is also why the soul rebellion is possible in the first place, Clover felt completely betrayed by Flowey, and in a sweet payback, after his segment, he took the lead. As Ceroba once said, "Turns out you're a pretty damn good leader, Clover!"
Just got here from the last one First i guess? But if im being truthful of my thoughts Of all the songs in the games soundtrack, this one sticks out the most The name does not fit the theme or situation, but the backstory fits perfectly and explanes why ceroba is doing what she is
I think it fits perfectly with Ceroba at that point, the whole fight is in hope that Kanako could still be alive in the lab and chujin's plans. That's also why the entire song is FILLED with Kanako's motif. Ceroba is desperate and her only hope now is killing you, grabbing your soul (a pure one) and saving her. Which is probably also why the plan failed in the first place with Kanako, Integrity's soul wasn't pure, she killed at least ONE monster (considering her old tutu was "dusty" in undertale, something that no other items have and was SHOWN to be aggressive in UTY)
Spoilers True Pacifist Wow thats so cool that phase 2 has Martlet and Starlo motifs considering while fighting Ceroba they are just right to side of us passed out. A Really Cool Song Detail :D
4:36 i love how the final phase starts with hopes and dreams Aka the final boss theme of pacifist in undertale and then Goes immediately to justice It symbolizes *"YOU ARE FILLED WITH HOPES, DREAMS, AND JUSTICE!"*
sorry for finding this out now lol, but i think there is a motif used at the very beginning of a mother's love. it's from 0:15 of The Trek (easier to hear on 2x speed). i'd guess that A Mother's Love was made first, so it could be that the trek takes _from_ A mother's love? but they still share a melody regardless
@@Violet111 ah, i think you're right! it's much easier to hear when on double speed. interesting. so The Trek probably took from oasis valley, and ceroba's theme probably took from The Trek (because those two sound especially similar)
4:41 this is once upon a time for multiple reasons(correct me if i wrong): -once upon a time comes before hopes and dreams in the UT ost. -a lot of tracks from UT use its leitmotif, so i can literally say this theme uses the Start Menu theme from undertale, i'd be right but also wrong -in most tracks the melody isnt exactly the same. Here, it's closer to Once upon a time than to Hopes and Dreams.
For the last point the instruments are the same as Hopes and Dreams so even if it's Once Upon a Time leitmotif, there's no doubt it's supposed to make players think of Hopes and Dreams. Plus they're both pacifist final bosses.
@@wiss_yt there's technically nowhere saying this is officially the Once Upon a Time leitmotif. But most of the community agrees to it. However using this leitmotif won't always be to reference Once Upon a Time but others using this leitmotif and, in this case, Hopes and Dreams.
it might technically be the once upon a time motif but i think it is obviously supposed to make you think of hopes and dreams considering the context and how it sounds
The intent was almost definitely meant to be Hopes and Dreams/SAVE the World. It's using the motif with similar instruments, in a similar context of a pacifist final boss. Ceroba's entire fight is blatantly intended to just be "God of Hyperdeath, but it's *our* sh*tty OC instead of Asriel's", so it makes far more sense that the intent was to reference Asriel specifically, even without the instruments.
I thought that going into the project, but in practise it really doesn't show. If you cut between A Mother's Love and the motifs it breaks up the flow of the song and the video as a whole, especially given how different it is from most of the tracks it references, and if you play them at the same time it... just really doesn't sound good.
For some reason, the part at 3:19 always reminded me of the intro part of "oath sign" by LiSA. Give it a listen and i'm sure you can hear the resemblance!
Anyone else just so happen to come across what seems to sound like A Mother's Love, but all piano, I just went idle while talking to Ceroba at the Wild East and noticed it sounded an awful lot like A Mother's Love
There’s no Axis motif kinda implies that they didn’t have their “perfect ending” in pacifist ending. The perfect ending for Axis is neutral ending, which they just get along with you instead of having a fake lover and saying some weird stuff like “THE C U R V E S”
I mean on one hand they’re a robot so it doesn’t matter that much but in the other hand you get exp from them if they’re killed so a is is probably the most conscious out of the steamworks robots. I feel like he should’ve been pacified with the fake lover bot and then caught up with clover and Ceroba at the end of the steamworks and had an actual compelling scene like in neutral
I considered it when drafting the video up, but I don't think I could justify putting it there, as much as I'd love to (Penumbra Phantasm's actually my favourite Toby Fox track). It makes sense as a motif in the context of Undertale, given a portion of it was used in Hopes and Dreams (albeit a different portion). Unfortunately, the first two intervals of some bars match up, but they don't from then on, and the chord progression is different as well.
And wouldn't you know it, there's still more leitmotifs in this song. I discovered that the very first section of A Mother's Love contains part of the Oasis theme.
Hearing Martlet and Starlo's theme fighting makes me think that Ceroba remembers them. I mean, she thinks of them when she's fighting and it's reflected in the song. It doesn't play in the last phase of the song because she's not focused on them anymore, she's panicked because she's not going to see his daughter again and she's thinking of her "hopes" and "dreams" therefore she's screaming. If I had to do it for the whole song (only for A Mother's love) At first she feels guilty for killing his friends, but she immediately thinks of her purpose her daughter (Kanako). As she fights, you can also hear the leitmotif (forlorn) representing loneliness. This feeling ends when she remembers her daughter (Kanako) and goes on to do what she has to do (protocol). on the one hand, she may think that this is the just thing to do (Justice), even if it is a broken justice. Remembering what she did for his daughter (kanako). Starlo and Martlet will come to mind and we hear their themes (Showdown, Protocol) she now wants to save her daughter, she now wants to end this. but she realizes that she is about to lose all of it. (Hopes and dreams) She believes last piece of hers Hopes and Dreams . Again we alternate between Justice and the Kanako motif. And lastly she loses the fight while still thinking of her daughter Also reason of she is going between Justice and saving his daughter is either she's going to kill an innocent pure child or she's going to throw away this near-impossible chance and never see her daughter again. You have to remember that it doesn't take a human soul to save her daughter... it takes a monster soul too. What a mother who loves her child...
@LanceXD8912 I thought you needed a monster and a pure human soul to save Kanoko. Because before the pacifist fight, Starlo says "Not only Clower's..., but the soul of your own." Then immediately ceroba enters the ancestor and says, "Shut up!" Thank you for caring, by the way
All this teaches me is that once you have enough character and scenario themes you can stick them together like legos to create any kind of new song you want
Yeah, how do ya think Toby made the ost for undertale?
That's Toby!
Only if you do it well.
If you don’t. You get yoshi’s crafted world XD
The Toby Fox approved method!
This is actually a rule of Toby fox's theory of translation book!
*For more info look up Undertale rule 34*
I love how Starlo's motif plays a lot more than Martlet's since he was a lot closer to her
I mean, duh, I guess.
@@berdinaction Honey, this comment is 6 months old
@@boomgirlbucko So. What. It's limited?
@@berdinaction As in, this kind of info wasn't obvious back then.
Ceroba: *casually steals everyone’s motifs*
Just like she wants your soul
Axis:That’s unbased,GOODBYE
Ceroba is just a DJ trust (Also saint pfp based)
"Since everyone is passed out, I'm sure they won't mind me taking their motifs right"
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Ceroba is the final boss of the pacifist route. She's the ending of your journey
And her theme just uses almost every other theme you hear through your journey... It's the perfect conclusion
the call and response of showdown and protocol at 3:33 is so good since both starlo and martlet have stuck by your side and are helping you confront ceroba. amazing
so true. this part immediately stood out to me when i first heard this track. it sounds so good and it gets me really emotional. definitely my favorite part of the song.
am i the only one hearing protocol left ear and showdown right bc of where theyre sleeping in game
they werent rlly helping much lol
They didn’t really help that much except for moral support
@@ediblepencil494 it's also my favorite
The fact that Undertale tracks motifs can create such an impact of a character’s development shows just how much we grew attached to the rhythm.
I like how one of the first motifs is forlorn which means lonely, sad or hopeless and ends with clover symbolically overpowering the song and emerging victorious
I think it also has the connection to Dalv from the connection between Kanako and he.
5:19 The Yellow Soul motif is so good here, that they actually managed to tie back this probably almost random noise in Your Best Nightmare into the best part of the track, I get transported straight back to Finale and the energy of that fight with this.
The music notes here are also on a piece of paper on the News board at the Wild East.
my mind could only listen to tenebre rosso sangue in that part, for some reason.
@@stonkboi552You're not the only one, I thought I was crazy!!
Okay so I didn't believe it at first, then I went to the "Your Best Nightmare" part for the yellow soul, made it slower and at 0.75x speed the sound in the background (aka the theme that isn't flowey's) sounded just like that part.
That's my favorite part now, it's both so hidden and obvious
pretty sure the music on the news board is the "justice" motif
Should also be noted that the Yellow Soul motif appears several times throughout Yellow
For example, the Wild East theme
3:32 destroys me emotionally. reminders of who you're fighting for and whatnot
SO REAL ppl need to talk abt that part more. starlo and martlet's themes playing right after each other gets me hyped everytime i hear it.
@@ediblepencil494when i was playing it i heard it and was internally screaming “STARLO MARTLET MY PALS”
I love the addition of Your Best Nightmare. We sometimes forget Flowey is presiding over the entire battle... literally having the power to just kill it and reset whenever he wants. Man this game gets pretty dark...
I truly thought this game would be all about funny adventures. I was so wrong when i saw martlet being backstabbed on that damn roof
Yeah but im sure flowey is sitting there like "wow...this is good!"
I always thought it was the other way around, the specific theme here is originally (chronologically) the Wild East theme, plays here because Ceroba is there a lot, and played during the clover segment of Omega Flowey because that's where Clover spent a large potion of their time in the underground
I don't think so tho@@Smitology
The wild east theme is probably like that due to Flowey being particularly present during this section
Still can’t stop thinking about Clover dancing during this fight because of this video 💀
My sincerest condolences
They have no reason not to, the song slaps
the once upon a time part is great and all but the part where starlo and martlet's leitmotifs play right after each other is the coolest shit and it's my favorite part of this track
I find it fitting that the song ends with the Kanako B motif. I think it fits perfectly with what Ceroba would be feeling after the fight, just longing to see her daughter better again (or again in general)
Also, at 4:31 I noticed that the guitar (fall I guess) is the same one as used in Guns Blazing (Axis's theme). Its not really a motif but more of a reference I wanted to point out. If im wrong feel free to correct me, ill listen closer again.
Yes, yep. Totally getting better. Alphys is definitely helping her get better.
Yeah Kanakos not melting away or anything. Totally@@ChaoticDoodle
@@maritoxico9982 I mean, what bad things could possibly happen? She gets fused to other monsters through DT or smth? Nah, no way
@@ChaoticDoodletotally not a dog now
The Enemy Approaching bassline IS THERE
I hear it, which is fitting considering it's in the moment she's about to change phase and get even more aggressive
I personally feel that it’s Hopes and Dreams that is being referenced in the second phase, especially given the ACTs that work so similarly to the Hope and Dream ACTs in the Asriel fight.
hopes and dreams has the once upon a time leitmotif in it, so it's more the once upon a time leitmotif rather than hopes and dreams
Once Upon A Hope and Dreams
@@belonemania It's only in hopes and dreams that it's with a guitar and it's the final boss.
Context is every bit as important to how the motif is used than where the motif itself originally technically comes from, and this song is very clearly meant to invoke Hopes and Dreams in that moment.
I honestly think it’s hopes and dreams because if your doing regular pacifist, ceroba is the equivalent boss fight to the asriel fight in the undertale
Clover dancing while hearing Justice B in phase 3 hits me emotionally, I keep coming back to this
honestly surprised chujin's motif doesn't make a single appearance in this song, but the sheer anime power of 6 different character themes in one song is enough to make up for it
edit: it does! "kanako B" is actually ceroba's motif, which i had confused for being chujin's.
ah yes the dancing clover motif, such an inspiration
I never noticed the segment from Your Best Nightmare was specifically the Justice Soul :O now I can’t unhear it
Oh my gosh it's the Homestuck Sleep/Study Mix person! Hi! Also yeah it's a fun one! It's in the Wild East as well, to which I assume it's intentional, anyway.
Yeah i love that part
it's also very similar to Bad Apple (aka one of Zun's most-used melodies from Touhou)
@@deltafrappuccino omg is that my legacy? 🤣
Holy shit the track references the Your Best Nightmare Yellow Soul section. That, is, perfect.
So does the Wild East theme
@@Smitology The fandom apparently decided to intergrate the ΩF:YS leitmotif into the Wild East theme for whatever reason, so yeah
I had no idea she had more motifs than Kanako and Justice oh my god
Fun fact: the "showdown" theme actually comes from the main theme of the movie "the good, the bad, and the ugly".
I actually never noticed some of these until now!
Just a little correction though: the motif you label as "Kanako B" is actually Ceroba's own motif (Blossom)
I think the segment between 1:55 and 2:20 is actually Blossom (OST 54), the theme that plays when Ceroba talks with you in the Wild East
Since blossom IS Ceroba's leitmotif is more fitting than random Dalv theme just being there even if she doesn't know him
@@a_capybara_warrior2056 about that konako was a friend of dalv so connected
i dont know why but i just love the part at 3:20
Easily the best part, that phase’s music is just perfect
I can't believe the best part of the song is a reference to MEW MEW LOVE BLASTER of all things, I love it
This is peak composition, truly. They managed to merge every single leitmotif in a way it still maintains the original songs melody, while also creating an ABSOLUTE BANGER. Best track in the entire game (alongside with Gift and Best Friends Forever, of course), well done, UTY Team.
Fun fact: Greiving mothers gain the ability to steal anybody’s motifs
The fact the forlorn is included implies that Dalv is somehow nearby during this boss fight, which I find quite interesting
i dont really hear forlorn in here
Mayby its here becase kanako was friends with dalv,
It amazes me just how many musical connections can be made even within a single song. Its so impressive how people make and catch this stuff
I’ve seen people say that the “your best nightmare” part is more akin to Tenebre Rosso Sangue from ultrakill. I don’t think the UTY theme directly took a motif from ultrakill though, and I’m more inclined to believe that there’s an older more classical piece that I don’t know the name of that inspired to make Tenebre Rosso Sangue
Imagine playing an undertale fan-game and listen to a ultrakill motif
@@thereve988 I'm saying that if Tenebre Rosso Sangue has a sample/references an older piece of classical work, that UTY might be referencing that too rather than your best nightmare. I'm only using Tenebre Rosso Sangue as a title because I don't know any classical music so I wouldn't even know how to describe it in any other terms
I like my (and others) comments where read bc I was probably the one who argued Hopes and Dreams is a part considering the context of literally being the Pacifist final boss and family related issues on both Asriel and Ceroba
I never realized that the Wild East theme and the yellow soul theme from the OG game have the same motif until now. The more you know!
5:20 I’m actually pretty sure this leitmotif is meant to represent the wild east. Iirc it’s the exact same melody as the music that plays there.
you're actually right. It's literally just the Wild East theme
To be fair, "The Wild East" is based on Flowey's motif or "Your Best Friend"
@@TheLexuigi honestly I feel like that’s most likely just a pure coincidence, considering the wild east kind of has nothing to do with flowey, and is actually where you see him the least iirc.
To be fair though, it does also sound abit like the yellow soul bit from your best nightmare
yeah they're the same actually
wild east bassline = mus_f_6s_6
It actually makes sense that everyone's theme's make up her own, considering her goal was to save monster kind, and fight for the ones she loved most. It also works because her grief for her family is so powerful and she's barely hanging on because of the last people who truly care for her, being Clover, Martlet, Starlo
"LOVE-BLASTER !" is the translation for the mad mew mew arcade game they changed the name(at least on spotify idk if its the same on other platforms)
Wonderfuly made! Love the work❤
A Father's Hate
A Father's Belt
B fathers hate
A fathers dissapointment
Fallen down
Asian parents disappointment
LIST OF MOTIFS:
0:27 Justice A
0:38 Justice B
0:50 Kanako A
0:59 Kanako B
1:05 Showdown
1:12 Protocol
1:20 Forlorn
1:28 Mew Mew
_______________________
SEQUENCE OF MOTIFS IN MUSIC:
1:56 Kanako B
2:19 Forlorn
2:38 Kanako B
2:41 Protocol
2:44 Justice A
2:56 Kanako B
3:08 Antecipation...?
3:19 Mew Mew
3:32 Showdown
3:35 Protocol
3:38 Showdown
3:41 Protocol
4:02 Showdown
4:08 Showdown
4:14 Showdown/Kanako B
4:20 showdown/Kanako B
4:26 Showdown
4:31 Hopes n' Dreams
4:44 Justice B
4:56 Kanako A
5:19 Yellow Soul
5:44 Yellow Soul/Kanako A
6:08 Kanako B
Thank you
@@eggflavouredegg02 no problem, I'm happy to help 😁😄
@@adryanwilliandemendonca742we need this to be the top comment
You didnt mention the YBN yellow soul motif.
@@dylanzlol7293 oh sorry about that, i'm gona work on this👍
The protocol and showdown parts are Ceroba trying forget that Starlo and Martlet are beside her unconscious
I love "A Mother's Love"! So many leitmotifs! Especially "Protocol", "Showdown!" and "Justice"! Great! Respect!
Undertale Yellow - the best fangame ever!
Interesting! I thought Kanako B was more a motif for Chujin, as i first heard it in "Nothing but the Truth".
It's used pretty consistently for both Chujin and Ceroba. The Fandom wiki just calls it "Ketsunake" which might be the best name for it.
I think it's more accurate to say it's Ceroba or Chujin's theme, yeah. You first hear it in Ceroba's regular theme "Blossom"
@@youraverageyoutubeuser6608 I feel like that's meant to read 'KetsuKANE" as in like, Chujin, Ceroba, and Kanako Ketsukane
@@drfidelis558ketsukane= rich askhole
Dude, I love this music and it’s so epic. I’m gonna give it 1 million out of 1 million!!!
2:15 isn't this part similar to the CORE leitmotif and/or Guns Blazing/Trial by Fury? Or is it just me?
The fact that starlo’s signature whistle is the last thing heard before the craziness of phase 3, along with how the whistle barely has time to fade away before the drum kicks in…
Fitting that ceroba’s theme has so many leitmotifs in it, after all this battle is for the future of monsterkind
First off, absolutely fucking LOVE this track. It’s perfect for the final boss of Pacifist run, and it gave me chills in the same way that Hopes and Dreams did the first time I heard it. However, my favorite parts of the track have to be that seamless transition from the iconic Once Upon a Time/Undertale leitmotif to the Justice one because it’s such a love letter to the original game, and the harmonization between Kanako and Your Best Nightmare. The composer was a fucking GENIUS for putting that leitmotif in, especially since I don’t really hear people talking about it and unfortunately Your Best Nightmare isn’t really popular among the fanbase. Overall, I love that the devs of this game put their hearts into everything about this game, especially the OST, and I just wanted to nerd out a little bit.
I think there is something oddly fitting about 5:19. It's a theme you are unlikely to recognize since it is such a small part of the original Undertale, yet it is still present in this theme. And it makes sense if you assume that the "non-Flowey" part of the soul phase tracks are the humans who once owned the soul.
Not to mention that at this point of the story, your fate is practically sealed into being what happened in the original Undertale. Your soul is given to Asgore, your hat / gun is eventually fallen into the dump in waterfall, which therefore is found by Bratty and Catty, then is sold to Frisk (I also remember seeing a fanart where some UTY protagonists were watching the TV and seeing the events of Mettaton EX's fight unfold with Frisk wearing Clover's gear, having the yellow soul, and doing the dramatic pose at the audience which is fun.)
(F) * You call for help...
(C) * ... you answer the call
i somehow recognized that part from the omega flowey fight in my first playthrough, and It made me feel sad as fuck, like, that this triumphant tune is turned into such an emotionless strings of sounds in the Omega Flowey fight, where Clover has to attack a human, the thing he'd hate the most. I think this is also why the soul rebellion is possible in the first place, Clover felt completely betrayed by Flowey, and in a sweet payback, after his segment, he took the lead.
As Ceroba once said, "Turns out you're a pretty damn good leader, Clover!"
Just got here from the last one
First i guess?
But if im being truthful of my thoughts
Of all the songs in the games soundtrack, this one sticks out the most
The name does not fit the theme or situation, but the backstory fits perfectly and explanes why ceroba is doing what she is
I think it fits perfectly with Ceroba at that point, the whole fight is in hope that Kanako could still be alive in the lab and chujin's plans. That's also why the entire song is FILLED with Kanako's motif.
Ceroba is desperate and her only hope now is killing you, grabbing your soul (a pure one) and saving her.
Which is probably also why the plan failed in the first place with Kanako, Integrity's soul wasn't pure, she killed at least ONE monster (considering her old tutu was "dusty" in undertale, something that no other items have and was SHOWN to be aggressive in UTY)
Dude, it's literally the perfect name.
A Mother's Love (heartbreak over her child), but also A Mother's LOVE, for the pain and death she's caused.
the name fits perfectly
Motiefs can't not be in a Undertale fan game
@@Fefasoccer_217 "Can't not", not "Can't", big difference there
@@Fefasoccer_217yeah, he has a point, read again
My brain just can't process double negatives for whatever reason.
@@Boiled_Pizza same I had to read it thrice to understand
Spoilers True Pacifist
Wow thats so cool that phase 2 has Martlet and Starlo motifs considering while fighting Ceroba they are just right to side of us passed out. A Really Cool Song Detail :D
I thought the bit at 3:38 was more of a reference to North Star than Showdown but it's probably both and Showdown referenced from North Star
2:00 honestly reminds of another medium
I believe that the part at 3:44 is very similar to ost 116 "nothing but the truth"
Being able to understand the song’s layers gave me literal shivers. It’d SO GOOD and it’s even better to see it represented!
*Ceroba knocked out your friends.
*Ceroba decided to yoink their motifs
*Asriel realizes he lost his motif bc Ceroba took it
I think the Kanako B theme is just Ceroba's theme, since it appears first in Blossom and a lot of other Ceroba-related songs.
4:36 i love how the final phase starts with hopes and dreams Aka the final boss theme of pacifist in undertale and then Goes immediately to justice
It symbolizes *"YOU ARE FILLED WITH HOPES, DREAMS, AND JUSTICE!"*
The fact Kanako's leitmotif is the most recurrent one makes me tear up a little, ngl
You can hear a part in this song which came from another part in showdown
sorry for finding this out now lol, but i think there is a motif used at the very beginning of a mother's love. it's from 0:15 of The Trek (easier to hear on 2x speed).
i'd guess that A Mother's Love was made first, so it could be that the trek takes _from_ A mother's love? but they still share a melody regardless
Did some digging around the wiki and it looks like this motif is actually from the Oasis Valley theme :0
@@Violet111 ah, i think you're right! it's much easier to hear when on double speed. interesting.
so The Trek probably took from oasis valley, and ceroba's theme probably took from The Trek (because those two sound especially similar)
5:21 i can hear the wild east theme here too
4:41 this is once upon a time for multiple reasons(correct me if i wrong):
-once upon a time comes before hopes and dreams in the UT ost.
-a lot of tracks from UT use its leitmotif, so i can literally say this theme uses the Start Menu theme from undertale, i'd be right but also wrong
-in most tracks the melody isnt exactly the same. Here, it's closer to Once upon a time than to Hopes and Dreams.
For the last point the instruments are the same as Hopes and Dreams so even if it's Once Upon a Time leitmotif, there's no doubt it's supposed to make players think of Hopes and Dreams. Plus they're both pacifist final bosses.
@@sp4cef0rc37that is true, but its still the Once upon a time leitmotif
@@wiss_yt there's technically nowhere saying this is officially the Once Upon a Time leitmotif. But most of the community agrees to it. However using this leitmotif won't always be to reference Once Upon a Time but others using this leitmotif and, in this case, Hopes and Dreams.
it might technically be the once upon a time motif but i think it is obviously supposed to make you think of hopes and dreams considering the context and how it sounds
The intent was almost definitely meant to be Hopes and Dreams/SAVE the World. It's using the motif with similar instruments, in a similar context of a pacifist final boss. Ceroba's entire fight is blatantly intended to just be "God of Hyperdeath, but it's *our* sh*tty OC instead of Asriel's", so it makes far more sense that the intent was to reference Asriel specifically, even without the instruments.
5:19 kinda sounds like tenebre rosso sangue from ULTRAKILL
FR
4:33 this could be save the world too (but slower)
Again, Master, you've outdone yourself.
Martlet And Starlos Was There. So It Would Make Sense That Their Theme Song Motifs Would Be There.
man... now I want every motif for neutral and geno routes... you really don't have to, though! I'm just craving one o' those rn
it would be nice if you played the motifs along side the parts with it
I thought that going into the project, but in practise it really doesn't show. If you cut between A Mother's Love and the motifs it breaks up the flow of the song and the video as a whole, especially given how different it is from most of the tracks it references, and if you play them at the same time it... just really doesn't sound good.
True@@deltafrappuccino
For some reason, the part at 3:19 always reminded me of the intro part of "oath sign" by LiSA. Give it a listen and i'm sure you can hear the resemblance!
3:20 holy crap, even the MUSIC was giving you a hint to use a Big Shot!
5:19 Who else went back to listen to YBN to double-check their memory?
I love the hopes and dreams drop❤️
I'm crazy but "a mother's love" Sounds a bit like some parts of "love theme" of mother 3?
Anyone else just so happen to come across what seems to sound like A Mother's Love, but all piano, I just went idle while talking to Ceroba at the Wild East and noticed it sounded an awful lot like A Mother's Love
maybe the true undertale yellow was the friends we made along the way.
dancing clover :3
1:37 begging song
ngl ultrakill has actually rot my brain with the yellow soul motifs, i keep thinking it was tenebre rosso sangue
How???
@@aboclab6524it sounds a bit similiar try listening on the first piano part of tenebre rosso sangue
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I mean I guess I can hear that
AMAZING
Because it’s about to go crazy!!
Is it just me that also hears a hint of "Battle Against A True Hero" near the start when the beat picks up?
Oh my god. There's actually Mew Mew Love Blaster in this? That's amazing oh my god
5:19 This reminds me of someone who's also yellow thats locked behind a panopticon
There’s no Axis motif kinda implies that they didn’t have their “perfect ending” in pacifist ending.
The perfect ending for Axis is neutral ending, which they just get along with you instead of having a fake lover and saying some weird stuff like “THE C U R V E S”
well, at least they're happy
I mean on one hand they’re a robot so it doesn’t matter that much but in the other hand you get exp from them if they’re killed so a is is probably the most conscious out of the steamworks robots. I feel like he should’ve been pacified with the fake lover bot and then caught up with clover and Ceroba at the end of the steamworks and had an actual compelling scene like in neutral
The perfect ending is pacifist, he finds love
I'd argue that it isn't Showdown! but North Star being used instead, if you listen, it sounds identical
Still represents Starlo either way tho
So good :D
As soon as I heard the Kanako A theme I knew immediately "this is gonna be the final boss motif"
The beginning had "Kanako A"
I hear "your best friends" 4:08
The piano at the beginning also had a Motif from the "The Trek" too I think
ay that's pretty cool
I think 3:45 also has a motif from Penumbra Phantasm’s old theme from Homestuck; a project Toby worked on the music for before UT/DR.
I considered it when drafting the video up, but I don't think I could justify putting it there, as much as I'd love to (Penumbra Phantasm's actually my favourite Toby Fox track). It makes sense as a motif in the context of Undertale, given a portion of it was used in Hopes and Dreams (albeit a different portion). Unfortunately, the first two intervals of some bars match up, but they don't from then on, and the chord progression is different as well.
And wouldn't you know it, there's still more leitmotifs in this song. I discovered that the very first section of A Mother's Love contains part of the Oasis theme.
beginning of A Mother's Love reference to The Trek, or like kanako A part
Hearing Martlet and Starlo's theme fighting makes me think that Ceroba remembers them. I mean, she thinks of them when she's fighting and it's reflected in the song. It doesn't play in the last phase of the song because she's not focused on them anymore, she's panicked because she's not going to see his daughter again and she's thinking of her "hopes" and "dreams" therefore she's screaming.
If I had to do it for the whole song (only for A Mother's love)
At first she feels guilty for killing his friends, but she immediately thinks of her purpose her daughter (Kanako). As she fights, you can also hear the leitmotif (forlorn) representing loneliness. This feeling ends when she remembers her daughter (Kanako) and goes on to do what she has to do (protocol). on the one hand, she may think that this is the just thing to do (Justice), even if it is a broken justice. Remembering what she did for his daughter (kanako). Starlo and Martlet will come to mind and we hear their themes (Showdown, Protocol) she now wants to save her daughter, she now wants to end this. but she realizes that she is about to lose all of it. (Hopes and dreams) She believes last piece of hers Hopes and Dreams . Again we alternate between Justice and the Kanako motif. And lastly she loses the fight while still thinking of her daughter
Also reason of she is going between Justice and saving his daughter is either she's going to kill an innocent pure child or she's going to throw away this near-impossible chance and never see her daughter again. You have to remember that it doesn't take a human soul to save her daughter... it takes a monster soul too. What a mother who loves her child...
@LanceXD8912 I thought you needed a monster and a pure human soul to save Kanoko. Because before the pacifist fight, Starlo says "Not only Clower's..., but the soul of your own." Then immediately ceroba enters the ancestor and says, "Shut up!"
Thank you for caring, by the way
𝓘 𝓵𝓲𝓴𝓮 𝓱𝓸𝔀 𝓬𝓮𝓻𝓸𝓫𝓪 𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓵𝓮 𝓪𝓵𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓶𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓯𝓼!!! ★
that makes 2 Ceroba themes with a motif from Forlorn in them
Justice B is the most powerful sounding motif.
Change my mind
3:44 a part from the music "at the speed of light" plays
“Kanako B” is actually first heard in Blossoms, so tbh it’s more ceroba’s theme rather than kanako’s
DID NOT NOTICE THE YELLOW SOUL MOTIF THOUGH
You forgot Gaster’s theme, which is obviously in the track, trust me /s
it IS though, including some point of no return, protocol, remedy, trial by fury, apprehension, whatever else tracks i missed
@@echerwrecker how is gaster's theme in any of those tracks
undertale players when i tell them gatser isnt everywhere:
all of a sudden every single chord arpeggio becomes “gaster’s theme” just because 4 repeating notes sound similar to an easter egg
Barnacles.
the guitar riff thing on guns blazing is also used i think