I have a TRAK. A few years ago I took it to Alaska for a week long solo paddling trip. It held up beautifully. As far as skin punctures go, I haven't had one yet, but there is a lot of information out there on how to repair them. This kayak was very easy to travel with and I had the old style bag, this new bag is much lighter and easier to handle. The kayak carried all of my gear and was still very manueverable and stable. Basically, I trusted my life to the TRAK kayak and it didn't let me down. Also , if you look at other comparable hard shell kayaks, like the Cetus, Romany or Expedition, they are all in about the same price range. The difference being, you can travel on a plane with the TRAK, which gives you the whole world to explore.
Some years ago, George Dyson did a whole lot of research and experimentation with what is probably the very best sea kayak tradition ever: Aleut bidarkas. By the late 80's, early 90's, he had built several successful designs, using modern synthetics (replacing seal skin) and aluminum (replacing drift wood) to make flexible boats that were fast, efficient, sea worthy in the worst seas any canoe would see, and quiet. For years now, I've longed to build his two-hatch bidarka, but I don't have the shop space. Anyway, the Trak seems to have quite a lot in common. Aluminum frame, flexible covering (which Dyson says is faster on the ocean than a rigid skin). If Trak can produce a portable version of Dyson's bifurcated "fish mouth" square stern 17 foot single hatch bidarka, with a flexible frame, capable of carrying, say, 350 pounds... Well, I'm not a rich man, but they will have to fight me until they take my money. Btw, Dyson proved that this single hatch could plane with a fit paddler, and with most of his bifurcated bow designs, they produced more lift than a simply buoyant prow, meaning the bow was more resistant to diving into a wave. Like I said: Trak, make a baidarka. Please!
When any product claims to be "The Ultimate"... I recoil just a bit. This boat has a lot going for it, and will appeal to some with disposable assets. I'm not convinced that an "ultimate" boat exists in our sport. Some fit the needs of a specific paddler better than others, but I'm not seeing my personal "ultimate" here. Great review of a very interesting boat. Thanks!
It definitely fits a specific niche well. If you want a good performing touring kayak that you can fly to your destinations, this one is hard to beat. If you don't have a place to store a boat and don't want to buy a roof rack, this one is hard to be for a touring kayak. If car-topping or trailering and storage isn't an issue, this one will still do, but better value can be found in other options.
@@wisenber I'm comparing the Trak to the Itiwit x500, and sure the Trak offers better performance and a great warranty, but the Itiwit is just a bit behind with a price tag 4 time cheaper. And if you can't buy the Itiwit in your home country (the US, for inatance), at that price difference, you can fly to Canada or France, buy the itiwit, and it will still be much cheaper. This is a very niche product : you really need the maximum performance with no budget limit. Dont take me wrong, I really love their product. I just wish it was more accessible (price and availability).
@@nicolaslemay I don't know that I would compare an inflatable boat to the Trak or any hardshells. The x500 appears to be particularly deficient in water line length as a 380 cm boat is not well suited to open water, distance or storage. The Itiwit looks like a boat that can be air transported, but it doesn't look like you'll be touring once you get there. With the performance of an Itiwit, I'd argue renting a boat where you land would be a better value. Air travel and touring is more niche than touring (which is already niche). If your plans only included a couple of trips involving air travel and touring for several days, renting a hardshell is a better value. The Itiwit looks like a decent option if your paddle plans involve more just exploring around for a few miles a day then going back to a hotel than carrying a week's worth of provisions and camping. The Trak definitely isn't a good value if your plans just involve paddling around for a few hours a day.
@@wisenber The Itiwit is totally touring worthy. I used it myself to do the Rideau Canal. But don't take my word and check "François WorldTour"'s channel, he did a 50 days/2600km on the Danube using the x500. Because of the dropstich material, once inflated, it become just like a hardshell with very close performance. Sure, the Trak looks like it offers better performance and more versatile because of the jacking feature, but you'll be able to do most of the same touring trip with the x500 for a quarter of the price. Also, your comment on renting is very true. And at a 3600$, that's even more money you can put on rentals instead.
@@nicolaslemay Depends on one's style of "touring". Floating downriver with resupply available daily isn't really the design goal of most sea kayaks. Most touring kayaks stem from sea kayaks. Sea kayaks tend to be 480 cm and longer as length provides greater stability in waves and it gives greater hull speed and dry storage. The reality is that a 16 ft touring kayak will have a greater cruising speed and the ability to cover more miles than a 13 ft boat without a downstream current. My touring kayaks are all over 500 cm for that very reason. $3600 is on the high end of the price range for kayaks. My Klepper A2 that is now 30 years old goes for about $5500 new. In contrast, my Epic 18X which is much faster goes for about $3400 new. Folding adds cost. The X500 may be 1/4 the price of a Trak, but it's also 2/3 of the performance in terms of speed, handling and capacity. Floating down Class 1 rivers or covering small daily distances, that doesn't matter as much. Crossing bays, covering long daily distances and dealing with rougher conditions it does. It's the difference between making it or not making it. Still, for most, renting a hardshell boat is a better value than buying a lower performance boat. And as you noted, renting becomes more appealing when the price tag is $3600 to buy.
It always gets me when something costs for example $3599.00 it is put forward as $3500.00 when it’s just a penny away from $3600. I guess it’s a psychological way of making anything seem just a little bit less expensive. Very nice kayak nonetheless.
Thanks for the honest review! I was super curious what your thoughts were and you did a great job informing us on the strengths, weaknesses and unique features.
I'd say you forgot another category of portable kayaks, the dividable kayaks like the Point65 Mercury, Point65 Martini and the Pakayak. I know they won't go as small as a lot of the inflatables or foldable models, but they are still a lot more portable than the regular kayaks, no roof rack needed.
How much time did it take to fully assemble the kayak? How much strength is needed to push the frames into the skin? I am in my late 60s. The 42 pounds is not the issue, it is the strength to jame a bulky aluminum frame into a tight skin.
It doesn't take a lot of strength... but it does take some effort and 'hunching over'. It takes me about 15 minutes to set up the kayak at a relaxed pace. It takes about half that time to break down.
Someone bought one here. Two problems: The connections seized in salty water and wouldn't come apart and they struggled to get it together one and ruined the zip.
Amazing review. So well explained. Thought a boat without a skeg or hatches would be a hard no for me, but you showing how the adjustable frame works got me thinking. With this boat I could fly around the world and still paddle my kayak. I Love my Gearlabs KALLEQ!! (Try a slightly longer stroke while using it.)
Thanks Brian! Tried the Kalleq again this weekend on a 20 mile paddling mission. I used a longer stroke as suggested... I really started to get a feel for the paddle... it now looks great and works great! :)
No skeg, no rudder? For 3600, I'd have expected either but, customizable rocker and trim should accomplish the same. Almost. In spite of "aircraft" aluminum tubing, I still think there's a chance of kinking/bending the tubes.
I actually own a Trak Seeker 16 and the tubing only jacks up to a certain point. I've maxed them out and haven't had any issues. Also, on my first paddle with my Trak, I had high winds. I was a little concerned about not having a skeg but I didn't have any issue keeping it on course. I also didn't need to do any corrective sweep strokes to keep it there. I think that because of the hard-chine shape of the kayak, it stays on course. I own an 18 foot Impex Force Cat 4 and use my skeg only when needed. The only downside that I could see would be if you needed the rocker pumped up to paddle in waves but also needing it to paddle in a straight line. I haven't experienced that yet... so, we'll see.
Ahoy! Great review of that lovely kayak, really. Beautiful, well made boat. I'm loving it, but... the price make me so sad, but I think it is fair to product and company. Again, big thumb up 👍🏻 PaddleTv! Bravo!
The components and build in those aren't cheap. The move to the carbon ribs shaved weight and added strength, but it also added a couple hundred to the cost. The proprietary hydraulic jacks add a few hundred more. Sonic welding the hull, is a spendy process as well. If they could sell 10,000 a year instead of a few hundred, the manufacturing costs could be reduced quite a bit; however, they just haven't caught on that much to date. They're not getting rich off of these by any means.
One of the advantages of folding skin on frame kayaks (like Kleppers and Feathercrafts) is the ability for the frame to flex when hit by heavy waves or conform to them when going over them. That flex allows the soft hull to absorb a lot of the shock that a hardshell does not. The old nonfolding skin on frame baidarkas were known for this as well, and it helped them deal with the rough Pacific Northwest conditions. I've been curious if you noticed the same with the Trak? Does it feel like it's conforming going over waves, and does the hull flex when being hit by them? I've made a few folding and nonfolding skin on frame boats. I really like Trak's answer to tensioning the hull. Regarding your seat issue, there's no rule that you have to keep the stock seat. Buy a Bumfortable or carve your own out of closed cell foam. That'll also let you add a couple of inches so your lean back on that rear deck to roll. I rarely keep the stock seats since I discovered how much better a replacement seat can be.
It would be virtually impossible to replace the seat with another 3rd party one. The design is such that the seat slots into side panels a certain way. One could, however, easily add a small foam pad for extra comfort or height.
Good points! yes, the Trak definitely flexes more than a hardshell kayak. As for the seat... I'm ashamed to admit that I had never thought of making my own out of foam. I think I might have to try that, although you'd need to get creative, as the seat pan provides structure for the back band, and it protects your butt from the hydraulic jack that runs down the centre of the hull.
@@PaddleTV No two boats are the same for seats. I had success replacing the fiberglass seat and sled on my Epic 18X with a Bumortable and two strips of Velcro. I put a CLC Happy Seat in my Dagger, and I carved a seat from closed cell foam for the skin on frame boat I made. If the seat you buy or make as enough sacrum support, you may not even need a backband. I ditched the backband in my Epic, and it's never been an issue. If your seat positions you the right way, your lower back won't need support. I understand that's heresy for many of the owners that have veritable recliners on their boats, but I bet you get it if you've paddled some 30 miles days in a well fitted seat. I really do appreciate the flex many of the folding boats have. It reduces the pounding going over waves and it absorbs some when getting hit broadside. I'm hoping to build a baidarka some time. The Aleuts actually designed there's to flex on those rough seas off the coast of Alaska. Maybe you can get Hobie to let you test an Adventure Island? I know it would be horrible for you to pedal and have to use a sail while moving along at 10 mph while making a sandwich, but sometimes, you just have to take one for the team. :) Thanks for the reviews!
@@martin.feuchtwanger A 3rd party seat of the rack might not be a direct fit, but one carved out of closed cell foam could do. It sounded like his issue is primarily width with height being secondary. It looks like the biggest issue is the seat pan. If the side pillar installs independent of the seat pan, one could carve channels for the jacks on the bottom of a piece of closed cell foam. If he really wanted a backband, he could attach one to the side pillars.
Useful review, thanks. I use these Trak bags in my self-made skin on frame kayak and they're excellent . This is a kayak I'll definitely consider if I have to move back into an apartment &or stop owning a car. Keep going with that Greenland paddle by the way! :)
I have a packayak I. A small place and it is good. I like that it is a hard shell and an ocean kayak. The only thing I would say is that it makes it heavy to carry around as it is a hardshell
Walmart has 2 pedal kayaks. A 13 foot kayak, with rudder, framed seat and more. UNDER 500 DOLLARS you must pay shipping fees. The other is a pedal drive inflatable with rudder. Both are set up for fishing. The cost is 999 dollars.
None of those fit in the trunk of a car, or can be taken overseas on a plane or cruise. There are different boats for different floats, and if you want portable theres concessions to be made. Some make concessions with performance. Some price. This sacrifices price. Skin on frame is going to be so much lighter and faster in the water than a wal mart kayak that's 3ft shorter and double the weight.
Love your work! Could you please give me your feedback about 3 issues: 1) If Trak kayaks get flooded with expedition gear inside the floaters, will they still float and be navigable? Had this experience in an recent expedition, when I was at open sea with rather rough sea conditions. Due to a damaged spray skirt the cockpit got flooded, but the carbon-kevlar fiber sea kayak I own behaved really well. Since they do not have watertight compartments (bulkheads) and only floaters, could you please confirm if Trak kayaks perform well in such conditions? Question edited: is the TRAK Sea Sock able to solve this issue if its capacity is not exceeded (350LBS/159Kg)? 2) Talking about rough sea conditions, how well do Trak kayaks perform? Asking in a different way, what would be the maximum rough sea conditions Trak kayaks can handle, if the paddler is able to surf, roll and masters self-rescue techniques? 3) How about landing in rocky areas? Here my composite kayak raises lots of stressy concerns... would the skin of Trak kayaks resist landing in rocky areas with rough sea conditions? Thx
My 21' sea kayak has a lifetime-forever warranty on the hull, and it's transferable. Just do not lose your registration. I can see a 10-15 year warranty on this kayak given the material (skin) being used. Overall, I say hard shell is better.
I learn a lot from watching these videos. Thanks for the excellent fountain of info, but I most appreciate the sense of humor. Thanks to you, I may pick up the sport (although I do not swim). Is that a good idea?
Hi! I think you are the best impartial reviewer out there Was wondering if you have ever reviewed the POINT 65 MARTINI modular kayak? Considering it Thanks
Good kayak but not faultless . Reports by owners that excessive wear around carbon fiber area meeting skin. Holes showing up in skin. Trak so far not explaining why this expensive kayak is having this problem. Also ,good luck in getting delivery. Not aware if Trak has ever delivered a Trak 2.0 on time. Trak should say about delivery, " You will get it when you get it"
For a person in an apartment, this might be a viable option....if it were necessary to pay for a storage unit/ garage to house a 16 foot rigid kayak...for just a couple of years of storage.
Much of their normal struggles is getting enough pre-orders to get them made. The pandemic probably made all of that worse. Buying crowd-funded anything is always a risk.
Same 5 years later..... Good boat when you get it. Fragile jacks. Not a day biat unless you like dismantling,washing , oiling and drying after every sslt water trip. 5 years later and it still takes me over half an hour, to 45mins from packed to on water.
Thanks for the review! That airtime looked great. Do you have any experience with klepper or neris kayaks? I'd be interested in a review of one of those!
Thank you! Question please: what about disassembly and more importantly Cleaning / Drying before storing back into it's bag. It would seem to me that this will involve a LOT of time and effort every single time one goes out. Am I mistaken? Do you have any insight / tips & tricks to Help on this front? Thanks so much!
As you have me SOLD on the Trax 2.0 (#1 being versatility / not having to own two Kayacks, plus the portability of course). I'm athletic and in good shape, but new to Kayaking... so do I purchase something else first to Learn on -OR- do I simply start right off the bat with the Trak 2.0 ? Thanks so much! Ps. watched a ton of your Videos during the purchase decision and now plan on watching a ton more for Lessons and Adventures! Thank you 😀
I ordered two Traks. One has been defective since the day I got it (new). In March 2024 Jason at track said he would replacer the defective skin and frame when the July shipment arrived. July comes around and he claims that they ran out of boats and now maybe it would be September or November. August 7 I received communication that Jason and Nolan are angry that I left negative reviews online and will now not honor the warranty (all in writing... not too smart). I will be taking legal action, but I feel a moral obligation to warn other people who may be considering buying these boats.
I will say it's also very social kayak, because it's portable people will stop and ask you about it. I like the exclusivity of kayak like this or the one I own. As example I have high price inflatable kayak, I mean very high price. I had lot of compliments and people taking photos of my kayak.Going down the river I see a lot of Decathlon Itiwiits, Sewylors, Intex kayaks what is fine, they are good kayaks in certain circumstances and have their own purpose. But I don't want to be same as most and paddling same kayak. Portability of sea kayak, that's good stuff.
Yeah no kidding, I draw a small crowd everytime I take my Trak out for a paddle. People always ask me how long it takes to set it up. I usually answer with a smile, "About 30 mins: 15 for the kayak and 15 for the Q&A with random strangers!" This boat does essentially the same as taking a puppy out for a walk, but instead of striking conversations with cute girls, you'll end up chatting for half an hour with other kayak enthusiasts and mechanical geeks.
How it stacks up against "high-end" drop-stich inflatables? I mean regarding comfort/ergonomics, speed, maneuverability, stability, serviceability, etc. and finally, where one gets more "bang for the buck"?
Great video (as always) I noticed you did not use the supplied spray skirt? Pity because it really is an added benefit being able to adjust the rocker with out opening up the cockpit to potentially rough conditions. By the way, (yes I have one) but you should try the Gram Kajak paddles, specifically the Gram 9000T Carbon Fiber 3 Piece (with Storm Paddle Adapter), it is the best paddle I have EVER used.
I don't know if it was me not trusting the paddle.... or not trusting myself with the paddle. Probably the second. :). Since I filmed this, I've become MUCH more comfortable with the Greenland paddle. Would I use it in this whitewater... I would, but the Euro style makes more sense, as it gives better power and acceleration.
Do you HAVE to disassemble the bow- and stern-frame sections after each use (perhaps for cleaning or lowering tension on the various parts)? Or can you keep the Kayak kind of semi-assembled, for example in the trunk of your car? btw - would love to see a review of the Pakayak - and, even more, of its European opponent, the "Natseq" from "Kayak Innovations"
You can keep it fully assembled if you like. I sometimes leave mine assembled but mostly keep it packed own. If you got a lot of salt water inside during use, it's easier to do a thorough rinse with it disassembled.
Great question. I have done exactly what you said a few times, when I know I'm using the kayak regularly. I've partly broken it down to transport it. I'm not sure if you would end up problems if you did this over a long period. It's probably good for the kayak to be broken down completely every once in a while to 'keep things moving'.
Ken, if you get the chance, I'd love to see a review of a Neris Smart ProS. Looks like a nice blend of inflatable sponsons with skin on frame tech. Best of both worlds?
@@PaddleTV I just put down a deposit for one of the Smart Pro SX models, they tell me three to four weeks. I'll let you know what I think when it arrives and I get the chance to try it out a bit.
This is way cheaper than a divorce and you're still out in the cold, alone, fighting to survive. And tbh, this will still be sexy in 25 yrs. And the drybag floats- that's very clever. Also at 13:06 I think that would the thumbnail of the year
Like that is works well w. a Greenland style paddle. And price is reasonable for a folding touring boat. Would order one now IF I thought I get it within 2 weeks, EXCEPT that is not the case. According to the company's web site, orders placed now don't ship till December. (Bye, bye summer.) And that also bodes very poorly for warranty service: How long would it take to get a replacement part?
Hi! I was wondering which kind of mount you use to fix the action camera to the Kayak? I've been considering getting a camera too, to film some footage when kayaking with my Trak, but I'm not sure about what the best solution would be. Many mounts come I would really appreciate it if you could give me a hint :) Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work!
It's a challenge with the TRAK. I use a head mount (strap) that goes all the way around the kayak, or a clip that attaches to the deck bungees. Just make sure you tie a backup line to the camera, in case the mount fails.
Amazing review Ken! Do you have any views on the Pakboats Quest 150? I’m looking at a ‘skin-on-frame’ kayak and was wondering if the inflation capability of the Quest 150 hull along with its lower price and weight might be a better choice over the Trak 2.0…
Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with the Quest. After doing some quick reading about it, I can say that I'm definitely intrigued! It looks pretty cool. Is it a better choice than the Trak? I definitely wouldn't say that. It really depends on your needs. The adjustable rocker of the Trak, and it's solid build, which lets you take it into almost any water conditions is a major difference maker. But if you only need a flatwater touring kayak, the Quest might be a better choice. I can't wait to try it and learn more.
Very good content and beautiful kayaking images, thanks! I’m right back from a 6-day kayak trip in Croatia and believe that the lack of hatches would have been very annoying. Maybe use the bungees to store quick access gear and the float bags for night equipment? I’m not sure if a tent would fit in them? Also, how robust is the skin when exposed to hardcore abrasive rocks? What is the (dis-)assembly time? Are there any straps for backpack-style transport?
Thanks! Yes, the lack of hatches is a downside. You're exactly right... you use the float bags for gear you don't need to get at until end of day, and keep other gear on deck. There are some people that do a lot of multi-day trips with Trak Kayaks, and so I know it can be done. As for the skin... I've hit a lot of rocks with it, without issue. The only time I ever got a small leak was when I once drove onto an oyster bed. Those things are razor sharp. It didn't slice it open, but it did gouge the skin enough to allow a slow leak. It was a simple patch job to fix. Takes about 15 minutes to assemble and a bit less to disassemble.
Ken, Since TRAK 2.0 is so expensive and it takes months to get it, could you review and compare the PAKAYAK and the ORU Coast? I know the Pakayak is about $1900.00 and the ORU Coats is about $2000.00. Thanks
I'm excited to review both of those. I'm expecting to get my hands on an Oru Coast to review this fall, but I haven't heard anything back from Pakyak. Stay tuned though!
@@craigjanes3907 It is sad that they finally ran it into the ground. Folbot had been on the verge of failure for decades despite their having one of the lowest cost folding boats on the market. That being said, I did make a 1800 mile round trip drive to buy an almost 30 year old Klepper last year. You can still get Klepper parts and service or a new hull if needed.
@@wisenber Wow, 1800 miles. I do like the Kleppers. My first kayak was a skin over wood frame model that Folbot sold in the mid-1960s (a kit, not a foldable). My father and I built it together in 1966 and it lasted for many, many years after that.
What about durability? I dont think it can really match with any hardshell or even inflatable kayak in terms of resisting rocky bottom or intense UV diring the day. How to fix the kayak if occasinally made a hole in it? Potentially one could buy "skin" from the manufacturer but it may add another $1500 to your expenses at least.
I had an older Trak on loan. It came with a 2mm puncture in the hull skin. I fixed it easily and permanently with some Aquaseal. My new Trak skin got damaged during a road accident (not on water) and was easily fixed using the supplied repair kit.
No portable kayak can match the durability of a well made hardshell. But the Trak is surprisingly durable. I've hit a LOT of rocks over the years, and never had an issue. That being said, I got a small leak once when I plowed hard into barnacles. Man... barnacles are nasty things... Anyway, I fixed the problem in a minute with 'Tear-Aid' repair patches, and that patch has held for 2 years now without a problem.
Availability is a key issue. If i could walk into a store and walk out with one, i would. First saw one at Canoecopia and even there, there was no inventory. Crowd funding is not for me. If the product is that good, manufacturing should meet demand.
It is frustrating not being able to get hold of gear these days. Almost all manufacturers are back ordered due to supply chain issues over the past 18 months. Hopefully things get back on track for next year!
Two things: - Cost can be $3199 if you pay up front, closing soon - Using the Greenland paddle, your stroke isn’t using the full range of power; plant farther forward, stroke past your body to full extension to aft; and hold lower to go easier on shoulders Great video, super helpful helping me decide. Ordering next week!
I've really appreciated tips about using the Greenland paddle. I tested out some of the tips in the '20-mile kayak' video I released last week. I used the Greenland paddle for half the trip (10-miles), and learned a lot more from it. Fun paddle for long trips, there's no doubt about that! Cheers!
Trak have an amazing design and build, but they are really for city apartment dwellers or people doing a lot of paddle travel in some other way than their own toy hauler.
Ive dreamed of a feathercraft for years but now that I can afford one, they're out of business for some time already and good examples, used, still cost a couple/few grand.So, I put my deposit down for one of these as a 50th birthday present to me.
@@tybourne686 I enjoyed my festhercraft. I bought it brand new in 2003. I somehow lost in to an ex wife (divorce) that didn't even kayak. Interesting how that works out. Nevertheless I ended up building my own cedar strip kayak and carved my own Greenland paddle. I'll never go back to any other kayak buuuuuuttttt now you let me know Feathercraft is gone, this Trak kayak is better, the hydronic idea is so much better than using leverage like the FC. Sadly Trak doesn't look as nice or expensive as FC did. O well. Good luck.
There's a Kayal that breaks down in 4 pieces and is 1k cheaper and has dry hatches and forward/rear bulkheads, this thing is a rip off. Either way good review
If you're talking about the Pakayak Bluefin 142, you're right. It's a great kayak. I just reviewed it, and the video is coming out very soon. That being said, the adjustable rocker of the TRAK is unlike anything on the market. You pay a real premium for it, but I love it! Glad you enjoyed the review!
Trak kayaks are a pain to put together. 20+ minutes spent assembling a kayak seems like a waste of time when I could be in the water in 5 minutes with a Pakayak. Sure, Trak may be faster, once you get into the water, but I imagine that advantage goes away if you factor in the assembly time.
I have a TRAK. A few years ago I took it to Alaska for a week long solo paddling trip. It held up beautifully. As far as skin punctures go, I haven't had one yet, but there is a lot of information out there on how to repair them. This kayak was very easy to travel with and I had the old style bag, this new bag is much lighter and easier to handle. The kayak carried all of my gear and was still very manueverable and stable. Basically, I trusted my life to the TRAK kayak and it didn't let me down. Also , if you look at other comparable hard shell kayaks, like the Cetus, Romany or Expedition, they are all in about the same price range. The difference being, you can travel on a plane with the TRAK, which gives you the whole world to explore.
Very cool to hear Pat! Thanks for sharing.
If only that was more affordable and inventory actually available...
Some years ago, George Dyson did a whole lot of research and experimentation with what is probably the very best sea kayak tradition ever: Aleut bidarkas.
By the late 80's, early 90's, he had built several successful designs, using modern synthetics (replacing seal skin) and aluminum (replacing drift wood) to make flexible boats that were fast, efficient, sea worthy in the worst seas any canoe would see, and quiet.
For years now, I've longed to build his two-hatch bidarka, but I don't have the shop space.
Anyway, the Trak seems to have quite a lot in common. Aluminum frame, flexible covering (which Dyson says is faster on the ocean than a rigid skin).
If Trak can produce a portable version of Dyson's bifurcated "fish mouth" square stern 17 foot single hatch bidarka, with a flexible frame, capable of carrying, say, 350 pounds... Well, I'm not a rich man, but they will have to fight me until they take my money.
Btw, Dyson proved that this single hatch could plane with a fit paddler, and with most of his bifurcated bow designs, they produced more lift than a simply buoyant prow, meaning the bow was more resistant to diving into a wave.
Like I said: Trak, make a baidarka. Please!
Ken!! …thank your for all you do!!
I ordered my Trak 2.0 yesterday for March delivery. I’m so stupid stink’s flip’n excited!!
When any product claims to be
"The Ultimate"...
I recoil just a bit.
This boat has a lot going for it, and will appeal to some with disposable assets. I'm not convinced that an "ultimate" boat exists in our sport.
Some fit the needs of a specific paddler better than others, but I'm not seeing my personal "ultimate" here.
Great review of a very interesting boat.
Thanks!
It definitely fits a specific niche well. If you want a good performing touring kayak that you can fly to your destinations, this one is hard to beat.
If you don't have a place to store a boat and don't want to buy a roof rack, this one is hard to be for a touring kayak.
If car-topping or trailering and storage isn't an issue, this one will still do, but better value can be found in other options.
@@wisenber I'm comparing the Trak to the Itiwit x500, and sure the Trak offers better performance and a great warranty, but the Itiwit is just a bit behind with a price tag 4 time cheaper. And if you can't buy the Itiwit in your home country (the US, for inatance), at that price difference, you can fly to Canada or France, buy the itiwit, and it will still be much cheaper.
This is a very niche product : you really need the maximum performance with no budget limit. Dont take me wrong, I really love their product. I just wish it was more accessible (price and availability).
@@nicolaslemay I don't know that I would compare an inflatable boat to the Trak or any hardshells.
The x500 appears to be particularly deficient in water line length as a 380 cm boat is not well suited to open water, distance or storage.
The Itiwit looks like a boat that can be air transported, but it doesn't look like you'll be touring once you get there.
With the performance of an Itiwit, I'd argue renting a boat where you land would be a better value.
Air travel and touring is more niche than touring (which is already niche).
If your plans only included a couple of trips involving air travel and touring for several days, renting a hardshell is a better value.
The Itiwit looks like a decent option if your paddle plans involve more just exploring around for a few miles a day then going back to a hotel than carrying a week's worth of provisions and camping.
The Trak definitely isn't a good value if your plans just involve paddling around for a few hours a day.
@@wisenber The Itiwit is totally touring worthy. I used it myself to do the Rideau Canal. But don't take my word and check "François WorldTour"'s channel, he did a 50 days/2600km on the Danube using the x500. Because of the dropstich material, once inflated, it become just like a hardshell with very close performance. Sure, the Trak looks like it offers better performance and more versatile because of the jacking feature, but you'll be able to do most of the same touring trip with the x500 for a quarter of the price.
Also, your comment on renting is very true. And at a 3600$, that's even more money you can put on rentals instead.
@@nicolaslemay Depends on one's style of "touring". Floating downriver with resupply available daily isn't really the design goal of most sea kayaks.
Most touring kayaks stem from sea kayaks. Sea kayaks tend to be 480 cm and longer as length provides greater stability in waves and it gives greater hull speed and dry storage.
The reality is that a 16 ft touring kayak will have a greater cruising speed and the ability to cover more miles than a 13 ft boat without a downstream current. My touring kayaks are all over 500 cm for that very reason.
$3600 is on the high end of the price range for kayaks. My Klepper A2 that is now 30 years old goes for about $5500 new. In contrast, my Epic 18X which is much faster goes for about $3400 new.
Folding adds cost.
The X500 may be 1/4 the price of a Trak, but it's also 2/3 of the performance in terms of speed, handling and capacity.
Floating down Class 1 rivers or covering small daily distances, that doesn't matter as much. Crossing bays, covering long daily distances and dealing with rougher conditions it does. It's the difference between making it or not making it.
Still, for most, renting a hardshell boat is a better value than buying a lower performance boat. And as you noted, renting becomes more appealing when the price tag is $3600 to buy.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has to let my NRS Vibe shoes drain out before I enter my kayak.
It always gets me when something costs for example $3599.00 it is put forward as $3500.00 when it’s just a penny away from $3600. I guess it’s a psychological way of making anything seem just a little bit less expensive. Very nice kayak nonetheless.
$3601 just doesn't have the same marketing ring to it, but you'll pay more than that all in anyway.
That camera angle when you are "jacking" your kayak! 😂
I admit... there's no good way to jack a kayak.
Thanks for the honest review! I was super curious what your thoughts were and you did a great job informing us on the strengths, weaknesses and unique features.
I appreciate it!
I'd say you forgot another category of portable kayaks, the dividable kayaks like the Point65 Mercury, Point65 Martini and the Pakayak. I know they won't go as small as a lot of the inflatables or foldable models, but they are still a lot more portable than the regular kayaks, no roof rack needed.
Google for "Natseq Kayak", think it's way better than Point65 Mercury, incredibly stable modular kayak at a very reasonable price point
Wow, adjusting shape of the kayak on the go is insane 🙆🏼♀️
With that price tag, I expect the kayak to take me home , on a trip and back !
it cost more than my first vehicle ...
Almost halfway through your audio changed. Kind of sound like a robot.
How much time did it take to fully assemble the kayak? How much strength is needed to push the frames into the skin? I am in my late 60s. The 42 pounds is not the issue, it is the strength to jame a bulky aluminum frame into a tight skin.
It doesn't take a lot of strength... but it does take some effort and 'hunching over'. It takes me about 15 minutes to set up the kayak at a relaxed pace. It takes about half that time to break down.
Someone bought one here. Two problems: The connections seized in salty water and wouldn't come apart and they struggled to get it together one and ruined the zip.
Amazing review. So well explained. Thought a boat without a skeg or hatches would be a hard no for me, but you showing how the adjustable frame works got me thinking. With this boat I could fly around the world and still paddle my kayak. I Love my Gearlabs KALLEQ!! (Try a slightly longer stroke while using it.)
Thanks Brian! Tried the Kalleq again this weekend on a 20 mile paddling mission. I used a longer stroke as suggested... I really started to get a feel for the paddle... it now looks great and works great! :)
No skeg, no rudder? For 3600, I'd have expected either but, customizable rocker and trim should accomplish the same. Almost. In spite of "aircraft" aluminum tubing, I still think there's a chance of kinking/bending the tubes.
I actually own a Trak Seeker 16 and the tubing only jacks up to a certain point. I've maxed them out and haven't had any issues. Also, on my first paddle with my Trak, I had high winds. I was a little concerned about not having a skeg but I didn't have any issue keeping it on course. I also didn't need to do any corrective sweep strokes to keep it there. I think that because of the hard-chine shape of the kayak, it stays on course. I own an 18 foot Impex Force Cat 4 and use my skeg only when needed. The only downside that I could see would be if you needed the rocker pumped up to paddle in waves but also needing it to paddle in a straight line. I haven't experienced that yet... so, we'll see.
Ahoy! Great review of that lovely kayak, really. Beautiful, well made boat. I'm loving it, but... the price make me so sad, but I think it is fair to product and company. Again, big thumb up 👍🏻 PaddleTv! Bravo!
The components and build in those aren't cheap. The move to the carbon ribs shaved weight and added strength, but it also added a couple hundred to the cost. The proprietary hydraulic jacks add a few hundred more. Sonic welding the hull, is a spendy process as well.
If they could sell 10,000 a year instead of a few hundred, the manufacturing costs could be reduced quite a bit; however, they just haven't caught on that much to date. They're not getting rich off of these by any means.
One of the advantages of folding skin on frame kayaks (like Kleppers and Feathercrafts) is the ability for the frame to flex when hit by heavy waves or conform to them when going over them. That flex allows the soft hull to absorb a lot of the shock that a hardshell does not.
The old nonfolding skin on frame baidarkas were known for this as well, and it helped them deal with the rough Pacific Northwest conditions.
I've been curious if you noticed the same with the Trak? Does it feel like it's conforming going over waves, and does the hull flex when being hit by them?
I've made a few folding and nonfolding skin on frame boats. I really like Trak's answer to tensioning the hull.
Regarding your seat issue, there's no rule that you have to keep the stock seat. Buy a Bumfortable or carve your own out of closed cell foam. That'll also let you add a couple of inches so your lean back on that rear deck to roll. I rarely keep the stock seats since I discovered how much better a replacement seat can be.
It would be virtually impossible to replace the seat with another 3rd party one. The design is such that the seat slots into side panels a certain way. One could, however, easily add a small foam pad for extra comfort or height.
Good points! yes, the Trak definitely flexes more than a hardshell kayak. As for the seat... I'm ashamed to admit that I had never thought of making my own out of foam. I think I might have to try that, although you'd need to get creative, as the seat pan provides structure for the back band, and it protects your butt from the hydraulic jack that runs down the centre of the hull.
@@PaddleTV No two boats are the same for seats. I had success replacing the fiberglass seat and sled on my Epic 18X with a Bumortable and two strips of Velcro. I put a CLC Happy Seat in my Dagger, and I carved a seat from closed cell foam for the skin on frame boat I made.
If the seat you buy or make as enough sacrum support, you may not even need a backband. I ditched the backband in my Epic, and it's never been an issue. If your seat positions you the right way, your lower back won't need support. I understand that's heresy for many of the owners that have veritable recliners on their boats, but I bet you get it if you've paddled some 30 miles days in a well fitted seat.
I really do appreciate the flex many of the folding boats have. It reduces the pounding going over waves and it absorbs some when getting hit broadside. I'm hoping to build a baidarka some time. The Aleuts actually designed there's to flex on those rough seas off the coast of Alaska.
Maybe you can get Hobie to let you test an Adventure Island? I know it would be horrible for you to pedal and have to use a sail while moving along at 10 mph while making a sandwich, but sometimes, you just have to take one for the team. :)
Thanks for the reviews!
@@martin.feuchtwanger A 3rd party seat of the rack might not be a direct fit, but one carved out of closed cell foam could do. It sounded like his issue is primarily width with height being secondary.
It looks like the biggest issue is the seat pan. If the side pillar installs independent of the seat pan, one could carve channels for the jacks on the bottom of a piece of closed cell foam.
If he really wanted a backband, he could attach one to the side pillars.
Good review. Would like to see a review of an eddyline kayak. Maybe like the Sitka lt
Useful review, thanks. I use these Trak bags in my self-made skin on frame kayak and they're excellent . This is a kayak I'll definitely consider if I have to move back into an apartment &or stop owning a car. Keep going with that Greenland paddle by the way! :)
I have a packayak I. A small place and it is good. I like that it is a hard shell and an ocean kayak. The only thing I would say is that it makes it heavy to carry around as it is a hardshell
Walmart has 2 pedal kayaks. A 13 foot kayak, with rudder, framed seat and more. UNDER 500 DOLLARS you must pay shipping fees. The other is a pedal drive inflatable with rudder. Both are set up for fishing. The cost is 999 dollars.
None of those fit in the trunk of a car, or can be taken overseas on a plane or cruise.
There are different boats for different floats, and if you want portable theres concessions to be made. Some make concessions with performance. Some price. This sacrifices price.
Skin on frame is going to be so much lighter and faster in the water than a wal mart kayak that's 3ft shorter and double the weight.
Love your work! Could you please give me your feedback about 3 issues:
1) If Trak kayaks get flooded with expedition gear inside the floaters, will they still float and be navigable? Had this experience in an recent expedition, when I was at open sea with rather rough sea conditions. Due to a damaged spray skirt the cockpit got flooded, but the carbon-kevlar fiber sea kayak I own behaved really well. Since they do not have watertight compartments (bulkheads) and only floaters, could you please confirm if Trak kayaks perform well in such conditions?
Question edited: is the TRAK Sea Sock able to solve this issue if its capacity is not exceeded (350LBS/159Kg)?
2) Talking about rough sea conditions, how well do Trak kayaks perform? Asking in a different way, what would be the maximum rough sea conditions Trak kayaks can handle, if the paddler is able to surf, roll and masters self-rescue techniques?
3) How about landing in rocky areas? Here my composite kayak raises lots of stressy concerns... would the skin of Trak kayaks resist landing in rocky areas with rough sea conditions?
Thx
re: Advanced elements inflatable kayaks .......look into reviewing the durability of the main bladder against leaks at the seams.
My 21' sea kayak has a lifetime-forever warranty on the hull, and it's transferable. Just do not lose your registration. I can see a 10-15 year warranty on this kayak given the material (skin) being used. Overall, I say hard shell is better.
Thank you. I was looking forward this review
You're very welcome!
I learn a lot from watching these videos. Thanks for the excellent fountain of info, but I most appreciate the sense of humor. Thanks to you, I may pick up the sport (although I do not swim). Is that a good idea?
Hi!
I think you are the best impartial reviewer out there
Was wondering if you have ever reviewed the POINT 65 MARTINI modular kayak?
Considering it
Thanks
Good kayak but not faultless . Reports by owners that excessive wear around carbon fiber area meeting skin. Holes showing up in skin. Trak so far not explaining why this expensive kayak is having this problem. Also ,good luck in getting delivery. Not aware if Trak has ever delivered a Trak 2.0 on time. Trak should say about delivery, " You will get it when you get it"
Thanks, Ken. I was pretty impressed how tough the skin is with you sitting it on the sharp looking rock. 🙂👍🚣♂️
Ken , could you review and compare the PAKYAK
Would love to... just need to get my hands on one! I'm going to continue to reach out to them to get a test boat. Hopefully I'll get one soon!
Great, well presented content. Great channel. I find myself learning something new almost every episode.
For a person in an apartment, this might be a viable option....if it were necessary to pay for a storage unit/ garage to house a 16 foot rigid kayak...for just a couple of years of storage.
My buddy ordered one two years ago and still hasn't gotten it. Trak kayaks have terrible service
Much of their normal struggles is getting enough pre-orders to get them made. The pandemic probably made all of that worse. Buying crowd-funded anything is always a risk.
Same 5 years later..... Good boat when you get it. Fragile jacks. Not a day biat unless you like dismantling,washing , oiling and drying after every sslt water trip. 5 years later and it still takes me over half an hour, to 45mins from packed to on water.
Thanks for the review! That airtime looked great.
Do you have any experience with klepper or neris kayaks? I'd be interested in a review of one of those!
Unfortunately I don't have any experience with Kleppers or Neris kayaks. If I get a chance to try either, I'll be sure to do a review!
Nice video but it doesn't sound like as good a boat as the old Feathercraft kayaks, which did have front and rear hatches.
Please review the Pakayak!
He did
That's amazing i LOVE IT, what i was looking for, my old AE1012-R Advanced Elements have to retire!
Thank you! Question please: what about disassembly and more importantly Cleaning / Drying before storing back into it's bag. It would seem to me that this will involve a LOT of time and effort every single time one goes out. Am I mistaken? Do you have any insight / tips & tricks to Help on this front? Thanks so much!
I towel it down quickly to dry it off. I'm not someone that worries about getting every last bit of moisture out...
As you have me SOLD on the Trax 2.0 (#1 being versatility / not having to own two Kayacks, plus the portability of course). I'm athletic and in good shape, but new to Kayaking... so do I purchase something else first to Learn on -OR- do I simply start right off the bat with the Trak 2.0 ? Thanks so much! Ps. watched a ton of your Videos during the purchase decision and now plan on watching a ton more for Lessons and Adventures! Thank you 😀
I ordered two Traks. One has been defective since the day I got it (new). In March 2024 Jason at track said he would replacer the defective skin and frame when the July shipment arrived. July comes around and he claims that they ran out of boats and now maybe it would be September or November. August 7 I received communication that Jason and Nolan are angry that I left negative reviews online and will now not honor the warranty (all in writing... not too smart). I will be taking legal action, but I feel a moral obligation to warn other people who may be considering buying these boats.
I will say it's also very social kayak, because it's portable people will stop and ask you about it. I like the exclusivity of kayak like this or the one I own. As example I have high price inflatable kayak, I mean very high price. I had lot of compliments and people taking photos of my kayak.Going down the river I see a lot of Decathlon Itiwiits, Sewylors, Intex kayaks what is fine, they are good kayaks in certain circumstances and have their own purpose. But I don't want to be same as most and paddling same kayak. Portability of sea kayak, that's good stuff.
Yeah no kidding, I draw a small crowd everytime I take my Trak out for a paddle. People always ask me how long it takes to set it up. I usually answer with a smile, "About 30 mins: 15 for the kayak and 15 for the Q&A with random strangers!" This boat does essentially the same as taking a puppy out for a walk, but instead of striking conversations with cute girls, you'll end up chatting for half an hour with other kayak enthusiasts and mechanical geeks.
Very beautiful video. I liked that very much. Many greetings ronactive
How it stacks up against "high-end" drop-stich inflatables?
I mean regarding comfort/ergonomics, speed, maneuverability, stability, serviceability, etc.
and finally, where one gets more "bang for the buck"?
Great video (as always) I noticed you did not use the supplied spray skirt? Pity because it really is an added benefit being able to adjust the rocker with out opening up the cockpit to potentially rough conditions. By the way, (yes I have one) but you should try the Gram Kajak paddles, specifically the Gram 9000T Carbon Fiber 3 Piece (with Storm Paddle Adapter), it is the best paddle I have EVER used.
Fun review. What happened to the Greenland paddle in the whitewater?
I don't know if it was me not trusting the paddle.... or not trusting myself with the paddle. Probably the second. :). Since I filmed this, I've become MUCH more comfortable with the Greenland paddle. Would I use it in this whitewater... I would, but the Euro style makes more sense, as it gives better power and acceleration.
Do you HAVE to disassemble the bow- and stern-frame sections after each use (perhaps for cleaning or lowering tension on the various parts)? Or can you keep the Kayak kind of semi-assembled, for example in the trunk of your car? btw - would love to see a review of the Pakayak - and, even more, of its European opponent, the "Natseq" from "Kayak Innovations"
You can keep it fully assembled if you like. I sometimes leave mine assembled but mostly keep it packed own. If you got a lot of salt water inside during use, it's easier to do a thorough rinse with it disassembled.
Great question. I have done exactly what you said a few times, when I know I'm using the kayak regularly. I've partly broken it down to transport it. I'm not sure if you would end up problems if you did this over a long period. It's probably good for the kayak to be broken down completely every once in a while to 'keep things moving'.
Ken, if you get the chance, I'd love to see a review of a Neris Smart ProS. Looks like a nice blend of inflatable sponsons with skin on frame tech. Best of both worlds?
Thanks for sharing! I've never actually seen that kayak before. Looks interesting for sure.
@@PaddleTV I just put down a deposit for one of the Smart Pro SX models, they tell me three to four weeks. I'll let you know what I think when it arrives and I get the chance to try it out a bit.
This is way cheaper than a divorce and you're still out in the cold, alone, fighting to survive. And tbh, this will still be sexy in 25 yrs. And the drybag floats- that's very clever. Also at 13:06 I think that would the thumbnail of the year
Did you hear about the pakayak? It is a hardshell sea kayak that fits in a bag. Any chance you can review it some day?
I sure can! In fact... I just got one to test, and I'll be doing that test as soon as ice and snow go away!
Like that is works well w. a Greenland style paddle. And price is reasonable for a folding touring boat. Would order one now IF I thought I get it within 2 weeks, EXCEPT that is not the case. According to the company's web site, orders placed now don't ship till December. (Bye, bye summer.) And that also bodes very poorly for warranty service: How long would it take to get a replacement part?
It's the challenge with most outdoor recreation gear these days!
@@PaddleTV Maybe Klepper will buy them out? Wishful thinking, but they have a great product ... if they could just satisfy demand.
Hi!
I was wondering which kind of mount you use to fix the action camera to the Kayak?
I've been considering getting a camera too, to film some footage when kayaking with my Trak, but I'm not sure about what the best solution would be. Many mounts come
I would really appreciate it if you could give me a hint :)
Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work!
It's a challenge with the TRAK. I use a head mount (strap) that goes all the way around the kayak, or a clip that attaches to the deck bungees. Just make sure you tie a backup line to the camera, in case the mount fails.
Amazing review Ken! Do you have any views on the Pakboats Quest 150? I’m looking at a ‘skin-on-frame’ kayak and was wondering if the inflation capability of the Quest 150 hull along with its lower price and weight might be a better choice over the Trak 2.0…
Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with the Quest. After doing some quick reading about it, I can say that I'm definitely intrigued! It looks pretty cool. Is it a better choice than the Trak? I definitely wouldn't say that. It really depends on your needs. The adjustable rocker of the Trak, and it's solid build, which lets you take it into almost any water conditions is a major difference maker. But if you only need a flatwater touring kayak, the Quest might be a better choice. I can't wait to try it and learn more.
Very good content and beautiful kayaking images, thanks!
I’m right back from a 6-day kayak trip in Croatia and believe that the lack of hatches would have been very annoying. Maybe use the bungees to store quick access gear and the float bags for night equipment? I’m not sure if a tent would fit in them?
Also, how robust is the skin when exposed to hardcore abrasive rocks?
What is the (dis-)assembly time?
Are there any straps for backpack-style transport?
Thanks! Yes, the lack of hatches is a downside. You're exactly right... you use the float bags for gear you don't need to get at until end of day, and keep other gear on deck. There are some people that do a lot of multi-day trips with Trak Kayaks, and so I know it can be done. As for the skin... I've hit a lot of rocks with it, without issue. The only time I ever got a small leak was when I once drove onto an oyster bed. Those things are razor sharp. It didn't slice it open, but it did gouge the skin enough to allow a slow leak. It was a simple patch job to fix. Takes about 15 minutes to assemble and a bit less to disassemble.
@@PaddleTV thanks a lot for your detailed answer!
Ken, Since TRAK 2.0 is so expensive and it takes months to get it, could you review and compare the PAKAYAK and the ORU Coast? I know the Pakayak is about $1900.00 and the ORU Coats is about $2000.00. Thanks
I'm excited to review both of those. I'm expecting to get my hands on an Oru Coast to review this fall, but I haven't heard anything back from Pakyak. Stay tuned though!
Reminds me of my old bomb-proof Folbot - similar design.
Was it a Cooper? The Cooper was pretty similar except it only had one jack instead of three, and it had a rudder option.
I have a Greenland II.
@@wisenber yes. Also have a Geenland II which i have set up for sailing. Too bad that Folbot went out of business.
@@craigjanes3907 It is sad that they finally ran it into the ground. Folbot had been on the verge of failure for decades despite their having one of the lowest cost folding boats on the market.
That being said, I did make a 1800 mile round trip drive to buy an almost 30 year old Klepper last year. You can still get Klepper parts and service or a new hull if needed.
@@wisenber Wow, 1800 miles. I do like the Kleppers. My first kayak was a skin over wood frame model that Folbot sold in the mid-1960s (a kit, not a foldable). My father and I built it together in 1966 and it lasted for many, many years after that.
@@craigjanes3907 I've paddled and sailed it more than the 1800 miles I drove since. Your Folbot Super was classic.
What about durability? I dont think it can really match with any hardshell or even inflatable kayak in terms of resisting rocky bottom or intense UV diring the day. How to fix the kayak if occasinally made a hole in it? Potentially one could buy "skin" from the manufacturer but it may add another $1500 to your expenses at least.
I had an older Trak on loan. It came with a 2mm puncture in the hull skin. I fixed it easily and permanently with some Aquaseal. My new Trak skin got damaged during a road accident (not on water) and was easily fixed using the supplied repair kit.
No portable kayak can match the durability of a well made hardshell. But the Trak is surprisingly durable. I've hit a LOT of rocks over the years, and never had an issue. That being said, I got a small leak once when I plowed hard into barnacles. Man... barnacles are nasty things... Anyway, I fixed the problem in a minute with 'Tear-Aid' repair patches, and that patch has held for 2 years now without a problem.
Availability is a key issue. If i could walk into a store and walk out with one, i would. First saw one at Canoecopia and even there, there was no inventory. Crowd funding is not for me. If the product is that good, manufacturing should meet demand.
It is frustrating not being able to get hold of gear these days. Almost all manufacturers are back ordered due to supply chain issues over the past 18 months. Hopefully things get back on track for next year!
Would've been helpful to hear about drying the inside after paddling and re-packing it.
I'm all set with a bag kayak. I'll find a way..
Two things:
- Cost can be $3199 if you pay up front, closing soon
- Using the Greenland paddle, your stroke isn’t using the full range of power; plant farther forward, stroke past your body to full extension to aft; and hold lower to go easier on shoulders
Great video, super helpful helping me decide. Ordering next week!
Yup... I'm still figuring out the Greenland stroke. :). Hope you enjoy the boat as much as I do.
@@PaddleTV thanks for your videos, just trying to help make the paddle work for you though you are an expert kayaker compared to me!
I've really appreciated tips about using the Greenland paddle. I tested out some of the tips in the '20-mile kayak' video I released last week. I used the Greenland paddle for half the trip (10-miles), and learned a lot more from it. Fun paddle for long trips, there's no doubt about that! Cheers!
Trak have an amazing design and build, but they are really for city apartment dwellers or people doing a lot of paddle travel in some other way than their own toy hauler.
The float bags are really sweet tho, may source a set of them for my own SOF.
@@qaannat I've thought the same myself. I've been wanting to built something based on some of the Aleut designs.
@@qaannat I believe other SOF makers, such as Cape Falcon, recommend Trak gear bags.
I think the time setting it up, and pulling it down, would drive me nuts. That being said, i can see it's worth its merit.
Practically the same as the Feathercraft Kayak in Canada.
Ive dreamed of a feathercraft for years but now that I can afford one, they're out of business for some time already and good examples, used, still cost a couple/few grand.So, I put my deposit down for one of these as a 50th birthday present to me.
@@tybourne686 I enjoyed my festhercraft. I bought it brand new in 2003. I somehow lost in to an ex wife (divorce) that didn't even kayak. Interesting how that works out. Nevertheless I ended up building my own cedar strip kayak and carved my own Greenland paddle. I'll never go back to any other kayak buuuuuuttttt now you let me know Feathercraft is gone, this Trak kayak is better, the hydronic idea is so much better than using leverage like the FC. Sadly Trak doesn't look as nice or expensive as FC did. O well. Good luck.
Yup. Very similar, although the adjustable rocker of the Trak is a huge game changer for people who want to use the kayak in different conditions.
folbot 70's, 80's and 90's built it first. now out of buisness. they were first and well made. 3 or4 companys
Is this the version 2 of the trax Kayak?
Yup. This is the Trak 2.0
There's a Kayal that breaks down in 4 pieces and is 1k cheaper and has dry hatches and forward/rear bulkheads, this thing is a rip off. Either way good review
If you're talking about the Pakayak Bluefin 142, you're right. It's a great kayak. I just reviewed it, and the video is coming out very soon. That being said, the adjustable rocker of the TRAK is unlike anything on the market. You pay a real premium for it, but I love it! Glad you enjoyed the review!
Where do you store the rolling case?
It's not really designed to be stored in the kayak. It's best left in your vehicle.
So you're limited to circle trips?
@@shinysidedown9090 It does fit inside the kayak if you roll it up. Of course you'll have to sacrifice some storage space.
What's the packed up weight?
Not saying it's for me but all that quality stuff is bound to cost that much i.m.h.o. Additionally, there's all the development to make it work.
Trak kayaks are a pain to put together. 20+ minutes spent assembling a kayak seems like a waste of time when I could be in the water in 5 minutes with a Pakayak. Sure, Trak may be faster, once you get into the water, but I imagine that advantage goes away if you factor in the assembly time.
pick up where they left off. (dan phone spit my message)
I really fuckin need one of these
for that money I get a Nigel Dennis Kajak
I have one. Good boat. BUT Fragile jacks and abysmal support from the company. Don't expect to receive one within 18 months of ordering it.
dun buy it unless u wanna wait 2 years for delivery
Hi, Ken. I just watched this video (ruclips.net/video/Rd4MTyd6Upk/видео.html) and it got me wondering if you'd ever tried an Alpacka kayak.
I haven't! But I'm looking forward to trying one soon. They look very cool.
Why don't you do a review on a MODULAR kayak?
I would love to. I've tried to contact PakYak, but haven't heard back from them. Hopefully soon!
Pakayak better than any of these!
I got one last year. It's great having a hard shell kayak fit into the backseat of my car.
This is a pure commercial.
I wasn't paid to do the video, and I give my honest opinion about the product. I'm not sure how that's a 'pure commercial'.
Way too much work. And way too expensive.
If you watch this with no sound this guy is histerical
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