instead of buffing all 180s they could add magnificent howl to the perk pool of certain 180s of their choosing since they did something similar already with the messenger and desperado
@@jamiedignam6756 because in that state of the game not a lot of weapons ttks were up with them so they nerfed it but now in the current sandbox it’s a different story
@@jamiedignam6756 180s can 3 tap with charge with light kill clip multi kill clip stasis damage boost there’s multiple things that already make 180s 3 tap and I’m not saying put mag howl on all 180s
Ok if you want to see a good 180, try malfeasance, I'm not even joking it actually has infinite range since it kills after 5 bullets (every bullet detonates) it's very good against people that peak shot, when they're low they recover, and when they repeak at full HP you hit one headshot and it oneshots them, at least anyone that reads this message should try it.
I'll give that a try. I been only playing pve content since I came by last fall. But tried some banner and kept getting wrecked by that trials hc. I'm normally a pulse rifle guy but I did love how Malfeasance handled when I used it a year ago. So yeah I'll try it. See how it goes.
I liked how you refrained from getting tilted, best reactions ever 😂 Also I’ve seen some people just play behemoth titan cuz it’s behemoth titan but you’re an absolute monster with it for sure. Great aim and great movement
Malfeasance is underrated. It should be buffed into hellish territory though. Give it a taken firefly and health regen on all kills Edit: health regen on all firefly kills
Since they're never gonna give us new maps, I wish there was a playlist with Burnout, Jav-4, Rusted Lands, Endless Vale on repeat. Good vid ZK, you could make the blue guns look busted
I played you the other day in trials. We were just playing for messenger. But oh my god!! you were good. I'm now subscribed to your channel. Well done dude.
Bad Omens is specifically built for 1v1 pvp like how he died. Low blast radius doesn't mean damage people. It has awesome velocity, rolls with quickdraw and tracking, and does work in crucible.
Dude this was the first handcannon i used in the crucible. Everyone told me it was bad.. I loved it. Glad to see it getting a bit of love. Not to mention look how sexy it looks!
I've been seeing a lot more people using it as of late. I'd love a good roll of it to try. My favorite 180 is malfeasance but it needs a handling buff and/or a catalyst.
Wanted to get back to the the and i used to main Hunter in D1 but titan in D2 so maybe going back to him. Looks rly cool :D Btw is there a build guide?
Comp is hard but it’s mostly shotgun from 20ft away. Sniper headshots from a hacker. Abilities spammed without a single shot fired from your primary that’s comp.
Hey zk, just thought I would say you are one of the best d2 streamers that I enjoy watching. I hope to one day be able to play d2 with you and frostbolt but i know that I'm not good enough to even be in the same lobby as you guys. Keep doing what you are doing and maybe I'll catch you planet side
180s have always been good. Same stock ttk as 120s at 1s. CWL+HEF, Rampage, MultiKC, and KC bring back that .66s LH 3 tap (depending on resil). Range is just where they fall short. Still chasing that Killing Wind/Rampage Prosperity.
wow you made a vid on almost the exact roll I got a couple weeks back: Accurized, QD/Rangefinder, range MW. Literally never used this weapon in crucible and only kept it but it had such a cracked roll, who knows maybe 180s will be meta.
I have an Ikelos HC with the most range possible, Subsistence and vorpal (both perks I love). I think this may be a better fit for 180 users (energy slot) since it can also make cells in PvE aside from generally slapping in PvP.
"they don't kill fast enough" bruh its legit the same ttk as a 120 i see where you're coming from but still had to point it out for that one guy you know who you are
It’s not a particularly great roll. HIR won’t allow you to three tap. You need an external damage buff to change the ttk. Consequently, the roll to go for on this fun is consistency/usability.
180s are good and can compete. You should a Posterity like mine. Fullbore, accurized rounds, killing wind and rampage with a rampage spec. I don’ agree they need a buff because it would make them OP. I think 120s need a very small range nerf. I am talking about 1 or 2 meters
I normally hate hand cannons, but I can do crucible with Nature of the Beast and sometimes Ace of Spades. That's about it. I've always been a scout rifle guy (Mida for life).
I played against Zkmushroom twice, and twice on his side during Iron Banner This month. (March) He really does move at the speed of light with his top Tree Solar Warlock. Against me he went afk for a min, so i found him and stood next time him cause i thought it was funny, the minute he came back he flicked his mouse, pulled his shotty out, and turned me into mist. ZK is great and is quickly becoming one of my favorite Destiny 2 content creators!! :) - Average Sweat Lord on steam Destiny 2
I used it in Crucible when I was trying to get my power up last month and was surprised that it wasn’t bad but I eventually went back to my old PvP loadout 💀
It’s even more consistent with high impact reserves.I definitely recommend trying it even if you don’t make a video on it I think it’s worth it just for fun
I have a similar one but with handling masterwork (a pity). The Service Revolver works better for me. We need a "beast mod" to make this HC work for most.
This handcannon is definitely underrated. I’m hearing the nonsense that posterity is better and I’m telling you it’s not. The nature of the beast with max range and rangefinder will do full damage out to 36 meters. Posterity with max range will hit full damage at about 32. It’s not even close. Nature of the beast will still 4 tap at 40 meters and it’s so easy to hit shots with it.
"the handling is pretty nice"
U S I N G
Q U I C K D R A W
It doesn’t need it
QD doesn’t max out handling if you’re getting at that
@@steindj what you mean it doesnt? people have always said it does max handling
@@Simon2000Cool it give +100 handling. Light.gg stated that
@@fringehouse no it maxes out handling depending on the perk if it was max handling you would have snapshot and quickdraw built in.
"Its my turn now" - Rip ZK 2021 :D
He is so desperate to generate content on RUclips that he uploads a video with this gun, incredible
The unkillable super
Lol
That guy with the Bad Omens is just built different
instead of buffing all 180s they could add magnificent howl to the perk pool of certain 180s of their choosing since they did something similar already with the messenger and desperado
Why do you think Lunas and NF got nerfed...
I don’t think some people realize how much the scene has changed. I don’t think that a slightly watered down Mag howl would be dominating the meta.
@@jamiedignam6756 because in that state of the game not a lot of weapons ttks were up with them so they nerfed it but now in the current sandbox it’s a different story
@Trae Ellis so making a 180 hc 3 tap is balanced? Use ur head mate.
@@jamiedignam6756 180s can 3 tap with charge with light kill clip multi kill clip stasis damage boost there’s multiple things that already make 180s 3 tap and I’m not saying put mag howl on all 180s
This HC is underrated
180s in general
I have the perfect roll, and it do be crispy; rapid hit/rampage posterity would beat it though.
So true I love 180s
You're underrating the wielder of said gun... Pubs... Sure. Comp?? I don't think so.
@@impexxable This particular 180? Yeah, probably not. A solid Posterity or (perfect) g-roll Officer Revolver could hang though.
Ok if you want to see a good 180, try malfeasance, I'm not even joking it actually has infinite range since it kills after 5 bullets (every bullet detonates) it's very good against people that peak shot, when they're low they recover, and when they repeak at full HP you hit one headshot and it oneshots them, at least anyone that reads this message should try it.
I'll give that a try. I been only playing pve content since I came by last fall. But tried some banner and kept getting wrecked by that trials hc. I'm normally a pulse rifle guy but I did love how Malfeasance handled when I used it a year ago. So yeah I'll try it. See how it goes.
Yeah the only bad thing about it is it doesn't retain the air accuracy of other 180s because it's exotic. I would definitely main it if it did
@@Bg1997mx wait you serious? that’s so weird, why is it? it’s just a precision like other 180s. why Bungie always gotta do exotics dirty like that
How do you get it? Is it in the exotic area or..
@@101eeyxela8 quest
Zk says "180 are fun to use but they need a buff" next second "were melting people!" 😂😂😂
Here they come 200 hc
Literally gets 52 kills in a game he lost by 30: “Not bad”
Me: BRUH WDYM
Al that matters in this game now is your personal performance. No one cares about winning matches unless you absolutely have to
@@PDchovgod *cough *cough Comp
Pretty sure he was talking about he own performance, either way his teammates were trash there isn’t much he can do about that
@@JoseAlvarado-mr3kt he passed all the caps? They lost by thirty...if he would've capped they would've won...quick mafs
I liked how you refrained from getting tilted, best reactions ever 😂
Also I’ve seen some people just play behemoth titan cuz it’s behemoth titan but you’re an absolute monster with it for sure. Great aim and great movement
Malfeasance is a really fun one as well. It feels and sounds good.
I wish it got a slight handling and slight damage buff. It'd be perfect then.
Malfeasance is underrated. It should be buffed into hellish territory though. Give it a taken firefly and health regen on all kills
Edit: health regen on all firefly kills
yo I love that hc so much. keep up the good work zk.
Mantle of Battle Harmony with Nature of the Beast and Chaos Reach is insane.
🤔
That face zk made after getting killed by a rocket in his super . Looked like he was going to steam through his ear 😤
Every HC is a meta in ZKs hands.
I've been using this gun for so long, and it's finally seeing the light of day!
Bad omens out of your super; I felt that! 😩
Lmao Zk your Titan always looks ridiculous love it
Same perks I have with steady hand and accurized rounds
I am so glad you are one of the few to say that the titan stasis super is still overpowered
That Bad Omens moment 😂
Here’s the thing, ZK could use anything and make it look good. Give him the non-exotic Traveler’s Chosen and he’d do work.
By far my favorite hand cannon. The stability is ridiculously good.
Since they're never gonna give us new maps, I wish there was a playlist with Burnout, Jav-4, Rusted Lands, Endless Vale on repeat. Good vid ZK, you could make the blue guns look busted
And bring back Retribution.
At 3:06 he defends his teammate called "BOLSONARO HUNTER" ... Bolsonaro is the president of Brazil, and I'm from Brazil, nice
I played you the other day in trials. We were just playing for messenger. But oh my god!! you were good. I'm now subscribed to your channel. Well done dude.
Bad Omens is specifically built for 1v1 pvp like how he died. Low blast radius doesn't mean damage people. It has awesome velocity, rolls with quickdraw and tracking, and does work in crucible.
Zk, you're a god with pvp, but that armor, man. My eyes are BLEEDING.
“ALRIGHT ITS MY TURN NOW”......POW..... dead
Wait so what are your roles on ur astral ik the vid isn’t on it so sorry for the off topic question but looked hella good
Dude this was the first handcannon i used in the crucible. Everyone told me it was bad.. I loved it. Glad to see it getting a bit of love. Not to mention look how sexy it looks!
I've been seeing a lot more people using it as of late. I'd love a good roll of it to try. My favorite 180 is malfeasance but it needs a handling buff and/or a catalyst.
Wanted to get back to the the and i used to main Hunter in D1 but titan in D2 so maybe going back to him. Looks rly cool :D Btw is there a build guide?
Yo ZK, was this before or after the stasis nerf? I mean it doesnt matter what gun u use, you could hit a 50bomb using a stick and a stone
I miss my Trust handcannon so much 😪
Seventeen in the magazine
I have one with max range...that’s been sitting might dust it off and use it.
Ah how i miss the pre nerf Luna and NF days when comp was actually hard too.
Comp is hard rn tho
Comp is hard but it’s mostly shotgun from 20ft away. Sniper headshots from a hacker. Abilities spammed without a single shot fired from your primary that’s comp.
Nature of the beast been bae
Hey zk, just thought I would say you are one of the best d2 streamers that I enjoy watching. I hope to one day be able to play d2 with you and frostbolt but i know that I'm not good enough to even be in the same lobby as you guys. Keep doing what you are doing and maybe I'll catch you planet side
The explosive payload trust from the drifter is actually still really good in quickplay
180s have always been good. Same stock ttk as 120s at 1s. CWL+HEF, Rampage, MultiKC, and KC bring back that .66s LH 3 tap (depending on resil). Range is just where they fall short. Still chasing that Killing Wind/Rampage Prosperity.
Wow that's a colorful titan
I’ve been waiting for someone to expose this bad boy
I used a hipfire grip / drangonfly roll of this gun the other day and ONLY hipfired with it for the memes, and it was surprisingly fun.
wow you made a vid on almost the exact roll I got a couple weeks back:
Accurized, QD/Rangefinder, range MW.
Literally never used this weapon in crucible and only kept it but it had such a cracked roll, who knows maybe 180s will be meta.
I have an Ikelos HC with the most range possible, Subsistence and vorpal (both perks I love). I think this may be a better fit for 180 users (energy slot) since it can also make cells in PvE aside from generally slapping in PvP.
Office Revolver with rangefinder kill clip is king
That gun can’t roll with either of those perks. You thinking of Service Revolver from Season of the Drifter?
@@calebhenry3601 Facts like ???
@@calebhenry3601 shit yeah.
no zk, this 180 isn’t good. you’re just cracked.
Best destiny content creator 👍🏻
I got subsistence instead of Quickdraw with accurised rounds and a range masterwork, it feels really consistent against 120s with rangefinder too
Been using this build with my steady hand. 2 taps all day. I love nature though it's not meta but it's better in gun fights than you would think
"they don't kill fast enough" bruh its legit the same ttk as a 120 i see where you're coming from but still had to point it out for that one guy you know who you are
I have this exact one, but I actually haven't used it since this 120 meta started. I guess I'll give it a try next time.
7:03 - "say sike rn"
Me looking at my high impact reserves with under pressure
Would you recommend that roll?
I wish for that roll
It’s not a particularly great roll. HIR won’t allow you to three tap. You need an external damage buff to change the ttk. Consequently, the roll to go for on this fun is consistency/usability.
@@calebhenry3601 I see.. thanks!
@@calebhenry3601 what is the damage percentage increase on high impact reserves?
that is my baby! quick draw. i love mine with dragonfly
180s are good and can compete. You should a Posterity like mine. Fullbore, accurized rounds, killing wind and rampage with a rampage spec. I don’ agree they need a buff because it would make them OP. I think 120s need a very small range nerf. I am talking about 1 or 2 meters
I normally hate hand cannons, but I can do crucible with Nature of the Beast and sometimes Ace of Spades. That's about it. I've always been a scout rifle guy (Mida for life).
I played against Zkmushroom twice, and twice on his side during Iron Banner This month. (March) He really does move at the speed of light with his top Tree Solar Warlock. Against me he went afk for a min, so i found him and stood next time him cause i thought it was funny, the minute he came back he flicked his mouse, pulled his shotty out, and turned me into mist. ZK is great and is quickly becoming one of my favorite Destiny 2 content creators!! :) - Average Sweat Lord on steam Destiny 2
"He two tapped me?!?" Thats what you get one eyed
You need to try the Seven Seraph Revolver with timed explosive rounds. They flinch more than anything else in the game.
I feel like 180s should have the lightweight frame perk. I would love a kinetic full auto 180. Rock it with a bow.
A 180 buff would be nice. It would be cool to see malfeasance become meta.
I used it in Crucible when I was trying to get my power up last month and was surprised that it wasn’t bad but I eventually went back to my old PvP loadout 💀
Yoooo nearly 100k for zk
It is one of my favorite 180s of all time.
"alright its my turn"
Sirrra krta bro💥
So turn 180s to 190s? 10 rounds difference seemed to help fix 120s and 140s. Only problem 140s have now is the p2p connection
posterity w/ reconstruction and rampage, and a rampage spec. over 30 bullets w rampage and charged mods + stasis
180s can be fun but you definitely pulled the best map for them imo
100k sooooonnnn🌚🌚❤️❤️❤️
Posterity with rampage is great too
"it's my turn" dead 😂😂😂😂😂
I have the same exact roll lol. I love how this handcannon feels too.
if you use hunter with bakris which buffs arc weapons you could always potentially three tap if you mix it with charged
Bakris damage doesn't work in pvp
07:08 you make my day... great emote :)))
69 crits? This build IS nice
It’s even more consistent with high impact reserves.I definitely recommend trying it even if you don’t make a video on it I think it’s worth it just for fun
My favorite 2 hc are this one and my God roll service revolver
I have the same roll and love it. 33 metres before damage drop off isn’t too bad
Best destiny player of all time 👍
180 are underrated
That A1M guy was trying so hard lmfaooooo
How do you get charged with light in crucible?? Which mod you use?
Nice flex with the flawless lol
I have a similar one but with handling masterwork (a pity). The Service Revolver works better for me. We need a "beast mod" to make this HC work for most.
Nature of the beast can come with high impact reserves.
I love this handcannon but wish it had a beter reload speed for the one I have
I use this as my arc HC for unstoppable. I am far from an expert but I like it.
ZK you gotta try the seventh seraph revolver with multi kill clip, 1 kill reload then consistent three taps
ZK : balanced super ahah
5minutes later I'm dead by bad omens???
Definitely more handsome than MTashed 😉
I’ve had this for awhile got around 500 kills on it. It’s fun to pull out on certain maps playing certain people
GG
This handcannon is definitely underrated. I’m hearing the nonsense that posterity is better and I’m telling you it’s not. The nature of the beast with max range and rangefinder will do full damage out to 36 meters. Posterity with max range will hit full damage at about 32. It’s not even close. Nature of the beast will still 4 tap at 40 meters and it’s so easy to hit shots with it.
If I’m gonna go 180 i have a rapid hit rampage posterity
They're my favourite hand cannon too but if you buff them like how you suggested wouldn't 140's then be pointless?
No just nerf 120s they take almost 0 skill that would fix it
Buff 140s too
Yo try with high impact reserves it helps with ease of use
I've been dying to know what your outro song is. I wanna jam to it at work.
Anc D - Hand In Glove
you are welcome ;)