Thanks for this informative video. I just had a new concrete driveway installed in October and knew not to use salt on it, but thought it would be OK to use other ice melts on it. Now I know not to use anything on it, other than maybe some sand for traction if I can’t get it clean enough with my snowblower.
calcium chloride = prestone driveway heat. I have mixed a little calcium chloride in with rock salt as a booster. Calcium chloride is best used for ice treatment. I bought water softener salt (large pieces too). Put that down on the road by my house early. Traffic will break it up to much smaller pieces. Longer lasting but slower to work. Best way to use salt and similar is to wait till the snow/ice turns into slush, then shovel it way, not allowing it to dry on the surface. Less damage to driveways and sidewalks that way.
@@DirtFarmerJay Thanks! Lernt from skool of hard knox ya kno! lol Interesting thing about Calcium Chloride is that it melts little holes in the ice surface then melts underneath the ice. At least it is easier to break up and remove the ice. Wish I could still get Ammonium Nitrate. Worked great and runoff was fertilizer for the lawn. Need a license now to buy it.... And paperwork...
One option is to use the lawn or garden fertilizer that you may have left over. I think it needs to be chemical not organic. Organic might give you some traction but not melt the ice.
Yes, I've done that before with light snow. I used up some grass fertilizer, ammonium sulfate. It worked moderately well. Thanks for watching and writing! We appreciate it. Best, DFJ
It is also eating up your cash. In most areas, calcium chloride is available in 40 or 50lb bags that cost 1/3 the price at your local hardware store. Let Prestone and it's marketing team handle your car's radiator and you deal with your sidewalk and wallet Lol.
I have a row home with no basement or attic, so I don't have room for 50 pound bags. I just buy 4 or 5 of the 9 pound Prestone jugs each year.@@superdog1964
You need a magnesium chloride melt, not sodium or calcium chloride. They are highly corrosive to aluminum. When temps allow, any ice melt residue should be rinsed off thoroughly. Best, DFJ
I bought a squeegee for this purpose. The first thing I do after heavy snow is clear off our aluminum awning that protects the side door from the elements. I'm 74 YO and need to climb a ladder to do this, but I don't want the weight of snow or ice to undermine this piece that would be annoying to replace.
I think ice melt with either magnesium or calcium chloride additives would be the best choice as it would get the ice film off your deck faster with a smaller amount of product compared to using regular salt granules. I hope this helps! Best, DFJ
Yes, indeed. That is a topic we covered in the episode. Calcium chloride is not the best choice when pets are involved. They can track it and it can cause burns or irritation to their paws. In that case, a magnesium chloride product is the best choice and we featured a few in the episode. Best, DFJ
All salt based ice and snow treatments (which almost all are), carry some inherent risk, depending on your pet's preference for the taste of salt. Since you use less with the ice melt products, there is less for pets to have access to. However, when pets walk in treated areas repeatedly, they will get more exposure. The typical response is for the pet to lick their paws, which can lead to ingestion. In products like what we featured, magnesium chloride is not the major ingredient, but it is there. There is a lot of strong opinions on the safety for pets, but an overlying principle seems to be to keep doses of the brine to a minimum, if there is concern, you can rinse your pet's paws. Also, in the products we used as samples (from Brody Chemical), the colorant used is food grade, but it can be tracked into your home, so some people prefer a poduct like EcoMelt, which doesn't have colorant. Best, DFJ
I use Morton Pet Care Ice Melt. It says it melts down to 10 degrees Fahrenheit and is salt and chloride free. Ingredient list is Urea CAS #57-13-6. Says it is “safer for pets, people, plants & surfaces *. The asterisk directs you to the back panel for details, which includes that it was developed with veterinarians, and that you shouldn’t use it on poor quality concrete, and concrete less than a year old.
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Perfect timing. Thank you for addressing the concrete damage aspect.
You're welcome!
Thanks for this informative video. I just had a new concrete driveway installed in October and knew not to use salt on it, but thought it would be OK to use other ice melts on it. Now I know not to use anything on it, other than maybe some sand for traction if I can’t get it clean enough with my snowblower.
You're welcome. Next year, you'll be ready to go. Best, DFJ
Found an 'Easter egg' while watching this video-- caught sight of your camera person in the window, lol 😆 Thanks Jay for great information, as always!
Love it. That's Rob, our friend and business partner. Thanks for writing!
calcium chloride = prestone driveway heat.
I have mixed a little calcium chloride in with rock salt as a booster.
Calcium chloride is best used for ice treatment.
I bought water softener salt (large pieces too). Put that down on the road by my house early. Traffic will break it up to much smaller pieces. Longer lasting but slower to work.
Best way to use salt and similar is to wait till the snow/ice turns into slush, then shovel it way, not allowing it to dry on the surface.
Less damage to driveways and sidewalks that way.
Good insights, Crazysquirrel!
@@DirtFarmerJay Thanks! Lernt from skool of hard knox ya kno! lol
Interesting thing about Calcium Chloride is that it melts little holes in the ice surface then melts underneath the ice.
At least it is easier to break up and remove the ice.
Wish I could still get Ammonium Nitrate. Worked great and runoff was fertilizer for the lawn. Need a license now to buy it.... And paperwork...
One option is to use the lawn or garden fertilizer that you may have left over.
I think it needs to be chemical not organic.
Organic might give you some traction but not melt the ice.
Yes, I've done that before with light snow. I used up some grass fertilizer, ammonium sulfate. It worked moderately well. Thanks for watching and writing! We appreciate it. Best, DFJ
Best explanation for steep drives and what to apply - 'create a brine'! Thanks.
You bet!
All I use is Prestone Driveway Heat that is calcium chloride. Throw it on an icy sidewalk and it eats up the ice.
Yep, calcium chloride creates actual heat, so it cuts the ice to get a brine going under the ice sheet. Thanks for writing and sharing! Best, DFJ
It is also eating up your cash. In most areas, calcium chloride is available in 40 or 50lb bags that cost 1/3 the price at your local hardware store. Let Prestone and it's marketing team handle your car's radiator and you deal with your sidewalk and wallet Lol.
I have a row home with no basement or attic, so I don't have room for 50 pound bags. I just buy 4 or 5 of the 9 pound Prestone jugs each year.@@superdog1964
How about for melting ice on aluminum patio roof systems
You need a magnesium chloride melt, not sodium or calcium chloride. They are highly corrosive to aluminum. When temps allow, any ice melt residue should be rinsed off thoroughly. Best, DFJ
I bought a squeegee for this purpose.
The first thing I do after heavy snow is clear off our aluminum
awning that protects the side door from the elements.
I'm 74 YO and need to climb a ladder to do this,
but I don't want the weight of snow or ice to undermine
this piece that would be annoying to replace.
Good morning from Southeast South Dakota
Morning!
Amazon left a 40lb box or cat litter on my door by mistake I was wondering if it could be used on ice. It's free what the hell lol.
It'll give you some grip, but no melt. It's clay-based, so it will tend to become sticky and be tracked into your home. Heads up! Best, DFJ
Which is best for wooden patios??
I think ice melt with either magnesium or calcium chloride additives would be the best choice as it would get the ice film off your deck faster with a smaller amount of product compared to using regular salt granules. I hope this helps! Best, DFJ
Good question. Thanks for asking as I was wondering about that. Take care.
The calcium Chloride?
WHAT ABOUT ANIMALS THAT WALK ON IT??????
Yes, indeed. That is a topic we covered in the episode. Calcium chloride is not the best choice when pets are involved. They can track it and it can cause burns or irritation to their paws. In that case, a magnesium chloride product is the best choice and we featured a few in the episode. Best, DFJ
What about pet friendly?
All salt based ice and snow treatments (which almost all are), carry some inherent risk, depending on your pet's preference for the taste of salt. Since you use less with the ice melt products, there is less for pets to have access to. However, when pets walk in treated areas repeatedly, they will get more exposure. The typical response is for the pet to lick their paws, which can lead to ingestion. In products like what we featured, magnesium chloride is not the major ingredient, but it is there. There is a lot of strong opinions on the safety for pets, but an overlying principle seems to be to keep doses of the brine to a minimum, if there is concern, you can rinse your pet's paws. Also, in the products we used as samples (from Brody Chemical), the colorant used is food grade, but it can be tracked into your home, so some people prefer a poduct like EcoMelt, which doesn't have colorant. Best, DFJ
I use Morton Pet Care Ice Melt. It says it melts down to 10 degrees Fahrenheit and is salt and chloride free. Ingredient list is Urea CAS #57-13-6. Says it is “safer for pets, people, plants & surfaces *. The asterisk directs you to the back panel for details, which includes that it was developed with veterinarians, and that you shouldn’t use it on poor quality concrete, and concrete less than a year old.