Its nice that he put a chair in the bathroom for Aki to sit on while he does the commentary from his bath , with the admiral hat on + various floaty bath toys .
One would think Jingles could've had recordings of various Akizuki sounds that he throws in for comedy purposes but knowing out Jingles, he'd eventually fail into uploading a video full of Akizuki sounds with his own laugh popping up every minute or so. That hasn't happened, so I have chosen to believe Akizuki truly has great comedic timing.
I think you forget about how good Gneis is for the small group of players that, like myself, cannot aim and therefore are depending on the dispersion to actually hit anything at all.
I'd have thought you could have found other things to distract you rather than support a game that's success supports the Russian economy and so the financing of the invasion of the Ukraine
Gneis: 15" shell Target: 15" taped to the front of the barrel Gneis: *misses* Guys on deck: *shreds target with small arms fire* Gneis: "Victory is mine!"
That’s an idea for a mass-community April Fools prank: everyone plays every battle either not shooting at all, or shooting directly into the water 100m away throughout the entire match. Same for WoT. Nobody would have to expend any precious gold, coal, flags, charges, unicorn fingernails, or whatever imaginary thing players currently pay WG real money for the privilege of expending in these battles. Instead just choose a player to lead, and everyone follow them on a tour of the map, perhaps stopping to marvel at the architecture or do a bit of shopping on an island. Nobody’s W:L %% would change regardless how many 1000s of battles ended in a straight-down-the-line draw.
@@seamon9732 have you met a kremlin in last season's clan battles? If ya have, you probably wouldn't be saying that. She is still an absolute monster ship that simply declines death itself in every conceivable way and hits like a freight train. The only ship more oppressive than that thing would be the likes of Petro and Stalingrad, with maybe a hint of Ragnar.
As a long time (been watching for at least 5 years now if my memory serves me correctly.) Subscriber, you hit the nail on the head. And on behalf of everyone here, thank you and akizuki.
It’s hard to separate geo-politics from anything really, especially when it ends up concerning everyone It’s true that it’s nice to be distracted once in a while from the abject crappiness of the world, especially when it keeps getting shittier. Thank you for that.
Been watching you since 2013 with the way old channel intro for War Thunder lol. Always love watching your videos to this day. Love you jingles and I’ll always enjoy your vids
I hadn't really thought about making a connection between what's going on in the real world and a game created in a country connected with current events. But now that many people have brought it up, I wonder what effect this will have on Wargambling's bottom line.
I think it's looking a bit more likely that Russia gets it's SWIFT access revoked, that might have an impact on Wargaming's ability to access financing and whatever forex setup they're using at the moment is probably reliant on Russian banking, even though technically they're a Cypriot company.
I think it's looking a bit more likely that Russia gets it's SWIFT access revoked, that might have an impact on Wargaming's ability to access financing and whatever forex setup they're using at the moment is probably reliant on Russian banking, even though technically they're a Cypriot company.
I mean, a war game made by a russian company isn't that big of a distance between dots... But, I agree with him that I don't see any point in getting angry about it. It is a bit silly for people to come to a YT channel and get mad about something like that. However I don't think it is entirely right to say "reality doesn't matter". At the end of the day, it is his source of income and I don't think he should stop doing videos. But i do think it is up to every player to decide if they want to support a russian company or not. Again I am far from mad about the issue and I don't see why anyone would be, I unfollowed them on twitch and YT and uninstalled the game because I have an ethical issue with it now (ok, um, MORE of one lol) but...getting mad? I have real questions about peoples principles or morals when they are somehow tied to anger and not rational logic...and screaming at other people to share your views is a great way to ensure they never will.
@@zoecornish no doubt, I should hope nobody is saying all Russians are bad, just look at the protestors. But there is a big difference between not having ill will towards all Russians and not wanting to send my money to them.
I cant argue your points against the Gneisenau, but I fell in love with it on my way to the Bismarck. After 4 years of playing WoW my best games have all come from the Gneisenau.
Possibly a placebo effect. Even though the ship is technically garbage, you have confidence in it and that boosts your performance. Whatever works, right?
Yeah, he's ranting about how they can't hit anything while they're ripping 10k+ hp out of the ship at a time... I'm pretty sure there were some hits in there.
@@lyinarbaeldeth2456 jingles seems to exaggerate a lot XD And believe me, I've seen worse disp in Gneisenau and I'll still say, Gneisenau can hit stuff below 15km. I've cross map cit NCs ffs with Gneisenau
I appreciate the statement on current events at the beginning. While I may disagree with the outcome, I appreciate the reasoning behind your decision and wish you the best in your endeavors
I found this channel by accident. I am not a gamer but I appreciate hearing the history behind many of the ships and the humor. As you said in the beginning of the comments, I watch to take a break from the the insanity of the world. Your voice is very calming. I think you should look into doing audio books. I think you reading anything by Patrick O'Brian would be awesome. Thank you for the entertainment.
Great video. Thank you ! You forget however that these two final Gneisenau's seemed supremely overconfident and presenting ridiculous amounts of broadside. I think they could easily have won IF they had been better played.
"I have seen shells from the same turret miss the ship by 100s of meters at 3kms" Well Jingles, the only conclusion i can draw from that is, the German guns must not be Rifled and are in fact just GIANT smoothbore Cannons.
BIG QUESTION. Should Sony block/de-platform wargaming and income steam ? Belarus has directly supported Russia's invasion into Ukraine and is under the same sanctions. They certainly ain't getting any more money from me !
Had the misfortune of playing the Gneis in ranked after resetting the line in wait for the Preussen. To be fair it actually performed better than expected. However, it is so inferior to its counterpart in the battle cruiser line it's not even funny. I think in ranked it could hold it's own if it didn't have to fight against them in every match. The hydro, better torps, better secondaries and better guns simply renders the Gneis obsolete, even in a mode where it's guaranteed to be top tier every game.
Jingles, my average accuracy with the Gneisenau was statistically the same as the other ships I own. SO either I'm a very bad shot or the ship isn't that bad altogether. My Kurfust also misses a broadside Yamato at 3 km range, even aiming at the waterline...
Jingles very well said and thank you sir for your videos I can’t count on my hands and toes how much your videos have helped me through the past 2 years or just in general to take my mind off whatever I might be going though I have been a sub since I believe episode 70 or so mingles with jingles lol it’s been so many years that I HONESTLY can’t remember when it was haha all I can say is thank you for your videos no matter what the subject might be
I don't play WoWS much anymore, but when I did I really enjoyed playing the Gneisenau. Everything Jingles has noted about its faults is true, but it was just fun to sail in, and I really like the sound of its guns (even if their accuracy isn't all one might wish for). It's also possible that it was at one time better in comparison with other ships, but they've gotten better, while it's still the same old. C'est la vie.
My biggest personal issue with how sh!t things are at the moment is that Wargaming is basically a Russian company, & I don't want to give any money to non-dissident Russian people or entities at the moment.
That last Salvo from the Gneisenau that was believed to be a miss was 3 hits of HE shells (there is an orange tint to the shells) a minute marker 15:12. Though a good question is why use HE when your 3 km from a lightly armored target mostly broadside on?
Fun fact: WW2 Gneis (and Shiny horse) was based on Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck, which is ingame the Heinrich In fact, the 3 ships of the Ersatz Yorck were Ersatz Yorck, Ersatz Schanhorst and Ersatz Gneisenau, as they were meant as replacements (Ersatz being the German word for replacement) for the old armored cruisers of the same name, which were sunk in the Falklands while being commanded by Admiral Graf Spee, leader of the Asia squadron of ww1 German ships
I appreciate your statement at the top. I don't play any wargaming games anymore because they're objectively just an awful company... But I'd make a point never to give them money again based on current world events.
Wargaming doesn't create Russian foreign policy. Besides which, they've now cut Lesta Studio loose and shut down all of their business in Russia and Belarus. Wargaming have made it very clear they do not approve of the invasion of Ukraine, not least because they (understandably) seem to take the shelling of Kyiv "personally" - their 3rd largest office was there, employing 500+ people caught in the middle of the bombardment in the first days. I mean, yeah WG is a bit shit, and that's an okay reason to not buy their products, but they aren't Putin.
The Gneisenau is a good ship for its purpose. It's not intended to be a range sniper, it's intended to be a brawler - turtleback armor, good at close range; inaccurate guns, good at close range; torpedoes, good at close range; good armor, good for soaking damage at any range but particularly when you're up so close you need to survive as the central target; and good speed for getting out of trouble and, as it's intended to, for getting into trouble. Use it as a long-range ship, and you'll get expected results.
Jingles I have never commented before as far as I can remember. Thank you for your intro you are a true honest and entertaining man. That being said as a American. I will launch a cow over the pond to support the UK..... with the troubles. I am sure you will get my joke. MP and certain cup. Sir thank you for the videos you do they are so much fun.
Oh oh Jingles, sorry to be blatant, but the bow armour of Gneisenau is 26 mm - plus a massive ice breaker covering about two thirds of the bow above the waterline. Heinrich also has an ice breaker below its 25mm nose, but a smaller one than Gneisenau. Also, my secondary GneisenYES carrowd me through the Bronze stage of Ranked with a 68 WR - way above my overall average.
Is Jingles getting the butt-pains over the Nicenau again? 😆 but no, the Gneisenau didn't miss his shots at the end. He just derped HE right into the Heinrich's belt armour 🤣
3:26 Oh Jingles: The Prinz Heinrich is armed with Torpedoes, a triple launcher on each side I'm pretty dang certain that it launches 4 torps per side, or it must be a visual bug later in the Battle
OK, I will jump to the defense of my favorite battleship (!) again. The Gneisenau's top speed is 32 knots, which a speed flag and a "Brisk" skilled captain can extend to the point where cruisers may have a hard time keeping up. Which is very useful for pushing for island cover aggressively early on in the battle, which is -- in my mind -- how you *should* play *any* battleship if you want to actually help your team instead of sniping from the back and watching your teammates die. The Gneisenau might have a turret less than the Heinrich, but if you're bow tanking, that difference does not matter. And you may have bad accuracy, but you are *supposed* to be closing with the enemy. At typical combat ranges for an *aggressive* player (the opposite of which is not "defensive", but "bad"), you'll be hitting your target allright. *And*, no disrespect intended oh Mighty Overlord, but you have missed another difference with the Heinrich: The Gneisenau's guns reload a whole 4 seconds faster than the Heinrich's, so you're looking at a much higher potential DPM here. And then there's the *other* Elephant in the room. Tactics. Your job in a 15-inch armed fast BB *cannot* be duking it out with other battleships at mid-to-long range. That's something that tends to happen from time to time, but your *primary* target -- rock, paper, scissors -- are the enemy cruisers. With its speed, fast reload, short-range punch, and adequate toughness, the Gneisenau can *easily* wipe whatever cruiser tries to get cocky. Leave the 16-inch armed enemy battleships to your teammates in the destroyers, who usually really appreciate the all-cruisers-sunk corridor you can punch into enemy lines to expose the snipers at the back to torpedo runs. Too many players are looking for their ship's strength in its own. Who hasn't seen the sniping Nagatos who think that it's ok to stay at the very back because "my ship isn't a brawler" (disregarding the fact that their team's cruisers aren't either, and can ill afford staying in the open like that)? The Gneisenau can be played, indeed *needs* to be played, as a fleet ship, as part of a combined effort. In that role, it has everything required to shine. And if you make it into the late game, your speed and versatility again comes into its own. Hunting down a destroyer? Making that run against the clock for the cap? Playing ring-around-the-island with an enemy BB (and punching their ticket with your torps)? The Gneisenau is *good* at all these. I feel the Gneisenau is actually the best T7 battleship around. You just have to understand it, and play to its strengths, which it undoubtedly has. It's not all about number of shells and accuracy.
"We don't want to be reminded how shitty the world is" Agreed: escapism, the beautiful draw of video games. Let's fall into the fallacy of pretending my worst problems are the glue eaters on my team, and the admiral nelson-clones on the enemy team.
Jingles, after playing the Gneisenau for many many hours so I could unlock the Bismark it kind of grew on me. Trust me I hated the ship for the first 20 hours. It's fun to charge it into the enemy at high speed and launch torps.
I have both T7 German BBs. They are both some of my favorite ships. That said, my Gneisenau is a secondary build with an 18 point captain. On a good outing I will get balanced damage from the main guns, secondaries and torpedos. The key for me is to play it like a cruiser in the first half of the battle hiding behind islands and taking pot shots at targets of opportunity, then use the speed to close the distance and brawl once the enemy over-commits themselves. It doesn't always work, sometimes the enemy team is smart enough to not over-commit, but as we all know, most WOWS players are not that smart so it works a good share of the time:) Despite the terrible accuracy, I still manage 32% hit rate with the main guns and above average damage.
I've been starring at my screen in disbelief many times, when my Gneisenau missed each and every shot at a battleship at ranges less than 4km...they truly are garbage guns...😅
I once stopped grinding the German line when my Bisko missed a fully broadside Neptune in 5km. Not even over pen. 5 of the shells went over rest below the lucky ship. And considering the state of the game. Germans BBs are indeed the worst of the bunch.
It's sort of the TOG of the WoW community. I've taken to using Gneisenau as a sort of "Designated Piñata". That is, it's useful when equipped as a brawler with full secondary build. Send such a Gneisenau into a Domination map to follow a lonely destroyer. It's fast enough to arrive at the cap shortly afterwards, then heads directly at the closest threat. Designated Piñata won't live long, but several things happen before Gneisenau is sunk. In particular, nobody bothers the DD. First, you are in the way. This is good for the DD hiding in smoke, capping, torping, and setting things on fire; and it can be good for you, having a target-rich environment. Clever enemies will still get you, but so many enemies are not. Those who would otherwise be hiding come out and are visible, desperate for a piece of you. This is good for the team which now has a better picture of enemy dispositions. Such a Gneisenau pilot might mutter: 'Yes please, come closer, for if you don't I'm head-on and will largely dodge your torps. My turtleback armour will survive your pitiful shells for long enough that I will torp you, or fry you in in secondary fire, before I sink. To be sure, main battery might miss at 4km. So I won't fire then. Expect a full AP 15" broadside when you are only 0.4km away; and finally, Designated Piñata has one last torpedo. I will ram you.'
Then youre lucky, when i grinded it to bismarck , the gneisenau couldnt even hit under 1km with all shells, when i got the bismarck in my port i already de installed wows again 🤣
3:23 Just want to say that atleast the t7 pan-asian cruiser has pretty good AA, I usually get an AA expert achievement daily with it. Even stopped a couple of inbound strikes too.
Gneisnusnu is one of my favorite ships in the game. *Shrugs* I never found her guns that annoying. Mind you this was back when she was an AA goddess and the old meta.
Honestly I've found that in general ships with two-gun turrets tend to have trouble hitting targets, especially German ones. Mainly because when those shells divert from each other, they leave a nice gap to dodge through. When it comes to ships like Gneis and FDG, I spec the equipment for the main battery, but the captain for the secondaries.
Yes jingles, those guns miss from every range even when you are right next to them and you fire and hit the superstructure instead of THE VERY OBVIOUS HULL!!!
Thank You old man. I come here for entertainment and a brief reprieve from tje salt mines. That being said back to triple shifts Oh Mighty Gnome Overlord!
Jingles the Gneisenou has a 26mm bow not 27mm so 15 inch guns can over match it. That’s why I love using the Hood at tier 7 ranked or brawls. She can do everything a 16 inch gun BB can at tier 7 and she’s more accurate and nimble
16:15
Jingles: "In order to kill them all, first you have to hit them."
Akizuki: "*Growls in agreement*"
Perfect comedy timing
Akizuki's occasional pearls of wisdom are always invaluable.
She's a natural commentator, you can't deny.
Its nice that he put a chair in the bathroom for Aki to sit on while he does the commentary from his bath , with the admiral hat on + various floaty bath toys .
@@orsonincharge4879 Does that make Jingles an Admiral of the Bath? OK, I'll clock into the salt mines for extra duty....
One would think Jingles could've had recordings of various Akizuki sounds that he throws in for comedy purposes but knowing out Jingles, he'd eventually fail into uploading a video full of Akizuki sounds with his own laugh popping up every minute or so. That hasn't happened, so I have chosen to believe Akizuki truly has great comedic timing.
I think you forget about how good Gneis is for the small group of players that, like myself, cannot aim and therefore are depending on the dispersion to actually hit anything at all.
i only unlocked the gneis a few days ago and because i am also bad at aiming so when i miss the shots usually hit something regardless lol
who cares if what I hit isn't what I aimed at? :)
Modern problems require modern solutions 😂😂😂
I like how confidently you say "small group of players" that cannot aim, caught me off guard. I respect your honesty about yourself.
Your comment has made me realise that maybe I need to get that ship to improve at WoWs
Jingles is the "gaming-Uncle" we all wish we had as kids..
I had a gaming grandpa. Introduced me to skyrim! And "had" because idk if he still plays, Papa is still alive and well
@@sharktoothman96 All of my family on my Moms side play games, its great lol, so I have a Gamer Uncle XD
Lol no
I am currently that uncle 🤣
Or a gaming-Papa xD His sense of humour is also gold
The extra range and better reload on the Gneisenau is tactically important as you can miss more shots from farther away.
Well said jingles. For years you've been a haven from the world. Thank you
I'd have thought you could have found other things to distract you rather than support a game that's success supports the Russian economy and so the financing of the invasion of the Ukraine
@@markrussell6881 think he still has to address whether people should be spending money on a Belarussian owned game. THAT's the elephant in the room.
Gneis: 15" shell
Target: 15" taped to the front of the barrel
Gneis: *misses*
Guys on deck: *shreds target with small arms fire*
Gneis: "Victory is mine!"
Jingles : " Who would want to play a warship that can't hit anything"
Me : " Err.... A virtual pacifist?? "
I always wondered - if someone is a vegan, would they limit what their character can eat in a videogame too?
@@Self-replicating_whatnot I’m not a vegan, but I still prefer not to kill animals in games, so I guess a vegan would too.
That’s an idea for a mass-community April Fools prank: everyone plays every battle either not shooting at all, or shooting directly into the water 100m away throughout the entire match.
Same for WoT.
Nobody would have to expend any precious gold, coal, flags, charges, unicorn fingernails, or whatever imaginary thing players currently pay WG real money for the privilege of expending in these battles.
Instead just choose a player to lead, and everyone follow them on a tour of the map, perhaps stopping to marvel at the architecture or do a bit of shopping on an island.
Nobody’s W:L %% would change regardless how many 1000s of battles ended in a straight-down-the-line draw.
'I prefer when my clients miss their target." -Lord of war
Call me Kevin
Balance the ships...
Jingles: At least in theory...
Jingles: Yes Kremlin, Petro I sm looking at you
🤣🤣
Kremlin is far from the terror of the seas it used to be.
Repetitive small nerfs and power creep have taken that away from it.
Still a good ship tho.
@@seamon9732 have you met a kremlin in last season's clan battles? If ya have, you probably wouldn't be saying that. She is still an absolute monster ship that simply declines death itself in every conceivable way and hits like a freight train. The only ship more oppressive than that thing would be the likes of Petro and Stalingrad, with maybe a hint of Ragnar.
Wait until Jingles sees Sevastopol.
As a long time (been watching for at least 5 years now if my memory serves me correctly.) Subscriber, you hit the nail on the head. And on behalf of everyone here, thank you and akizuki.
It’s hard to separate geo-politics from anything really, especially when it ends up concerning everyone
It’s true that it’s nice to be distracted once in a while from the abject crappiness of the world, especially when it keeps getting shittier.
Thank you for that.
well said sir
Well Ninvidea got caught up in this. Wargaming too. SWIFT sanctions.
Thanks, Jingles. Good to have you here to keep everyone's spirit up.
Been watching you since 2013 with the way old channel intro for War Thunder lol. Always love watching your videos to this day. Love you jingles and I’ll always enjoy your vids
I hadn't really thought about making a connection between what's going on in the real world and a game created in a country connected with current events.
But now that many people have brought it up, I wonder what effect this will have on Wargambling's bottom line.
I think it's looking a bit more likely that Russia gets it's SWIFT access revoked, that might have an impact on Wargaming's ability to access financing and whatever forex setup they're using at the moment is probably reliant on Russian banking, even though technically they're a Cypriot company.
I think it's looking a bit more likely that Russia gets it's SWIFT access revoked, that might have an impact on Wargaming's ability to access financing and whatever forex setup they're using at the moment is probably reliant on Russian banking, even though technically they're a Cypriot company.
I mean, a war game made by a russian company isn't that big of a distance between dots... But, I agree with him that I don't see any point in getting angry about it. It is a bit silly for people to come to a YT channel and get mad about something like that. However I don't think it is entirely right to say "reality doesn't matter". At the end of the day, it is his source of income and I don't think he should stop doing videos. But i do think it is up to every player to decide if they want to support a russian company or not.
Again I am far from mad about the issue and I don't see why anyone would be, I unfollowed them on twitch and YT and uninstalled the game because I have an ethical issue with it now (ok, um, MORE of one lol) but...getting mad? I have real questions about peoples principles or morals when they are somehow tied to anger and not rational logic...and screaming at other people to share your views is a great way to ensure they never will.
@@PaulFulbright at the end of the day imo the people of Russia are decent just like people all over the world its the dam politicians that screw it up
@@zoecornish no doubt, I should hope nobody is saying all Russians are bad, just look at the protestors. But there is a big difference between not having ill will towards all Russians and not wanting to send my money to them.
I cant argue your points against the Gneisenau, but I fell in love with it on my way to the Bismarck. After 4 years of playing WoW my best games have all come from the Gneisenau.
I grinded the Gneisenau without a single citadel hit on my way to Bismarck. That said load up on secondaries and get in torp range it's a great play.
Weirdly enough my best games and my best memories of WoWs is in the Gneisenau. I love that ship to bits.
Possibly a placebo effect. Even though the ship is technically garbage, you have confidence in it and that boosts your performance. Whatever works, right?
Jingles: Gneisenau can't hit stuff past 6km
Replay show: Gneisenau hits everything its shooting at in range
Me: *confused screaming*
Yeah, he's ranting about how they can't hit anything while they're ripping 10k+ hp out of the ship at a time... I'm pretty sure there were some hits in there.
@@lyinarbaeldeth2456 and i think the last shot the last gneisanau at the end of the video did was HE.
@@lyinarbaeldeth2456 jingles seems to exaggerate a lot XD
And believe me, I've seen worse disp in Gneisenau and I'll still say, Gneisenau can hit stuff below 15km. I've cross map cit NCs ffs with Gneisenau
@@Zergling.
It was HE that last shot.
I appreciate the statement on current events at the beginning. While I may disagree with the outcome, I appreciate the reasoning behind your decision and wish you the best in your endeavors
That little tangent at the beginning was damn good. Bless you jingles
Also, whenever I do get the Gneisenau's guns on target, they overpenetrate.
You are named The Mighty Jingles good sir, you show it in every way. Thank you
I found this channel by accident. I am not a gamer but I appreciate hearing the history behind many of the ships and the humor. As you said in the beginning of the comments, I watch to take a break from the the insanity of the world.
Your voice is very calming. I think you should look into doing audio books. I think you reading anything by Patrick O'Brian would be awesome. Thank you for the entertainment.
Welcome to Jingles. You have years of content ahead of you!
me personaly comes to this youtube channel for you'r awsome comentary, with the perfect cat meowing ^^
Well I guess thanks for taking our mind of what’s going on at the moment :)
Well put introduction jingles been awhile since I play my warships account lol thanks for all you do
Great video. Thank you ! You forget however that these two final Gneisenau's seemed supremely overconfident and presenting ridiculous amounts of broadside. I think they could easily have won IF they had been better played.
I haven't played world of warships in a very long time but I still enjoy watching the videos.
"I have seen shells from the same turret miss the ship by 100s of meters at 3kms" Well Jingles, the only conclusion i can draw from that is, the German guns must not be Rifled and are in fact just GIANT smoothbore Cannons.
I had to clean my monitor at around 1:32. I was busy eating lunch. Thanks Jingles, thanks a lot...
Thank you Jingles! Love for all you do! Also "Holy shit, LEAD"
"A bull dog licking piss off...", LMAO. Oh Jingles, don't ever change.
Love watching these videos with a cup of tea in the morning. Thanks for daily entertainment Sir Jingles.
"Elephant in the room" more like bear...
Even tough the Gneis could not hit a mountainside from the bottom of a fjord, i still love the old workhorse
thank you jingles, I needed a laugh tonight
The end was halarious 😂🤣 how do you miss from less than 4km... Oh wait, it's a Gneisenau 😂
Actually, he didn't.
The new battlecruiser are really fun, and, when you figure them out, really effective.
BIG QUESTION. Should Sony block/de-platform wargaming and income steam ? Belarus has directly supported Russia's invasion into Ukraine and is under the same sanctions. They certainly ain't getting any more money from me !
Had the misfortune of playing the Gneis in ranked after resetting the line in wait for the Preussen. To be fair it actually performed better than expected. However, it is so inferior to its counterpart in the battle cruiser line it's not even funny. I think in ranked it could hold it's own if it didn't have to fight against them in every match. The hydro, better torps, better secondaries and better guns simply renders the Gneis obsolete, even in a mode where it's guaranteed to be top tier every game.
Jingles, my average accuracy with the Gneisenau was statistically the same as the other ships I own. SO either I'm a very bad shot or the ship isn't that bad altogether.
My Kurfust also misses a broadside Yamato at 3 km range, even aiming at the waterline...
New drinking game. Take a shot / swig every time Jingles says Geniseneau. Winner doesn't get alcohol poisoning.
Jingles very well said and thank you sir for your videos I can’t count on my hands and toes how much your videos have helped me through the past 2 years or just in general to take my mind off whatever I might be going though I have been a sub since I believe episode 70 or so mingles with jingles lol it’s been so many years that I HONESTLY can’t remember when it was haha all I can say is thank you for your videos no matter what the subject might be
Thank you Jingles, for providing a distraction. I anlways love your turn of phrase, and it's refreshing to see your videos among my doomscrolling.
I don't play WoWS much anymore, but when I did I really enjoyed playing the Gneisenau. Everything Jingles has noted about its faults is true, but it was just fun to sail in, and I really like the sound of its guns (even if their accuracy isn't all one might wish for). It's also possible that it was at one time better in comparison with other ships, but they've gotten better, while it's still the same old. C'est la vie.
Thanks Jingles , you have support in all things
My biggest personal issue with how sh!t things are at the moment is that Wargaming is basically a Russian company, & I don't want to give any money to non-dissident Russian people or entities at the moment.
hey bro. its a company from belarus not russia. and years ago they moved to Zypern. In fact they never where a russian company at any time.
enjoy your videos. enough to make me plan to start playing the game.
That last Salvo from the Gneisenau that was believed to be a miss was 3 hits of HE shells (there is an orange tint to the shells) a minute marker 15:12. Though a good question is why use HE when your 3 km from a lightly armored target mostly broadside on?
Jingles your intro is spot on well done - RAN '98
i here wait for the day jingles drops his legendary sleepy relaxing podcast .
Watching a jingles video thinking "ahh here he goes shitting on my beloved gneisensau again..."
Fun fact: WW2 Gneis (and Shiny horse) was based on Mackensen and Ersatz Yorck, which is ingame the Heinrich In fact, the 3 ships of the Ersatz Yorck were Ersatz Yorck, Ersatz Schanhorst and Ersatz Gneisenau, as they were meant as replacements (Ersatz being the German word for replacement) for the old armored cruisers of the same name, which were sunk in the Falklands while being commanded by Admiral Graf Spee, leader of the Asia squadron of ww1 German ships
This week's mingles with jingles is gonna be interesting
I always treated Gneis and a speed bump on the way to Bismarck. Did exactly what I had to to get out of it and never looked back!
Might want to cover some other games Jingles. Promoting a Russian/ Belarusian business is not so ethical right now.
Alternate title: Jingles roasts Gneisenau for nearly 17 minutes
Happy Friday Jingles!
I appreciate your statement at the top. I don't play any wargaming games anymore because they're objectively just an awful company... But I'd make a point never to give them money again based on current world events.
Wargaming doesn't create Russian foreign policy. Besides which, they've now cut Lesta Studio loose and shut down all of their business in Russia and Belarus. Wargaming have made it very clear they do not approve of the invasion of Ukraine, not least because they (understandably) seem to take the shelling of Kyiv "personally" - their 3rd largest office was there, employing 500+ people caught in the middle of the bombardment in the first days.
I mean, yeah WG is a bit shit, and that's an okay reason to not buy their products, but they aren't Putin.
I love the Gneisenau and play it like a close combat cruiser. But I do understand where you're coming from.
The Gneisenau is a good ship for its purpose. It's not intended to be a range sniper, it's intended to be a brawler - turtleback armor, good at close range; inaccurate guns, good at close range; torpedoes, good at close range; good armor, good for soaking damage at any range but particularly when you're up so close you need to survive as the central target; and good speed for getting out of trouble and, as it's intended to, for getting into trouble.
Use it as a long-range ship, and you'll get expected results.
As a German soldier im just going to say thank you jingles
Actually Jingles, as of last night I come to this channel for your Attenboroughesque narration of TOG videos.
If it's the 1st Attenboroughesque narration of TOG you've watched, you'll love this one : ruclips.net/video/452Ne4vcLHI/видео.html
This video would only be sadder if one of the Gneis tried to ram, then missed as well.
My technique for blotting out the bullshit and initiate a laugh - cabbage mechanics! 😂🤣 - never gets old.
Jingles I have never commented before as far as I can remember. Thank you for your intro you are a true honest and entertaining man. That being said as a American. I will launch a cow over the pond to support the UK..... with the troubles. I am sure you will get my joke. MP and certain cup. Sir thank you for the videos you do they are so much fun.
I deleted my WOWs game in protest. *shrug*
Thanks for being a distraction Jingles!
Oh oh Jingles, sorry to be blatant, but the bow armour of Gneisenau is 26 mm - plus a massive ice breaker covering about two thirds of the bow above the waterline. Heinrich also has an ice breaker below its 25mm nose, but a smaller one than Gneisenau.
Also, my secondary GneisenYES carrowd me through the Bronze stage of Ranked with a 68 WR - way above my overall average.
Is Jingles getting the butt-pains over the Nicenau again? 😆 but no, the Gneisenau didn't miss his shots at the end. He just derped HE right into the Heinrich's belt armour 🤣
3:26 Oh Jingles:
The Prinz Heinrich is armed with Torpedoes, a triple launcher on each side
I'm pretty dang certain that it launches 4 torps per side, or it must be a visual bug later in the Battle
Ok, time for you to return to the salt mines
YAY!!!!!
I can air out my brown pants for 16min 34secs
I count myself lucky if my Gneis salvos land in the right grid square
I literally grinded through that bb in operations
The Gneisenau at the end shot he thats why he survived besides him not repairing that fire. Lucky guy.
OK, I will jump to the defense of my favorite battleship (!) again.
The Gneisenau's top speed is 32 knots, which a speed flag and a "Brisk" skilled captain can extend to the point where cruisers may have a hard time keeping up. Which is very useful for pushing for island cover aggressively early on in the battle, which is -- in my mind -- how you *should* play *any* battleship if you want to actually help your team instead of sniping from the back and watching your teammates die.
The Gneisenau might have a turret less than the Heinrich, but if you're bow tanking, that difference does not matter. And you may have bad accuracy, but you are *supposed* to be closing with the enemy. At typical combat ranges for an *aggressive* player (the opposite of which is not "defensive", but "bad"), you'll be hitting your target allright. *And*, no disrespect intended oh Mighty Overlord, but you have missed another difference with the Heinrich: The Gneisenau's guns reload a whole 4 seconds faster than the Heinrich's, so you're looking at a much higher potential DPM here.
And then there's the *other* Elephant in the room. Tactics. Your job in a 15-inch armed fast BB *cannot* be duking it out with other battleships at mid-to-long range. That's something that tends to happen from time to time, but your *primary* target -- rock, paper, scissors -- are the enemy cruisers. With its speed, fast reload, short-range punch, and adequate toughness, the Gneisenau can *easily* wipe whatever cruiser tries to get cocky. Leave the 16-inch armed enemy battleships to your teammates in the destroyers, who usually really appreciate the all-cruisers-sunk corridor you can punch into enemy lines to expose the snipers at the back to torpedo runs.
Too many players are looking for their ship's strength in its own. Who hasn't seen the sniping Nagatos who think that it's ok to stay at the very back because "my ship isn't a brawler" (disregarding the fact that their team's cruisers aren't either, and can ill afford staying in the open like that)? The Gneisenau can be played, indeed *needs* to be played, as a fleet ship, as part of a combined effort. In that role, it has everything required to shine.
And if you make it into the late game, your speed and versatility again comes into its own. Hunting down a destroyer? Making that run against the clock for the cap? Playing ring-around-the-island with an enemy BB (and punching their ticket with your torps)? The Gneisenau is *good* at all these.
I feel the Gneisenau is actually the best T7 battleship around. You just have to understand it, and play to its strengths, which it undoubtedly has. It's not all about number of shells and accuracy.
You forgot the most important detail. Alongside Scharnhorst, she is *the* best looking ship at T7
@@filipkotlaja8697 Scharnhorst is one of the most beautiful ships in the game
No. 😄
I would point out you just compared Gneisenau [T7] to the Rupprecht [T9], which has 4x2 406mm and 16 [4x4] torpedos lol
Did you mean Heinrich?
@@Dem0nActual yep, with popguns
I love the Gneisenau. Gonna have to play her and send a replay to prove you wrong :D
I got the Bismarck for free from an event a few years ago, never had the misfortune of sailing the Gneisenau
You may say, "Fair winds and following winds." I say, "Foul winds are following beans!"
I Like The comedy in these replays
Don't forget to add "always pick the ship that isn't commanded by Captain Try Hard".
"We don't want to be reminded how shitty the world is"
Agreed: escapism, the beautiful draw of video games. Let's fall into the fallacy of pretending my worst problems are the glue eaters on my team, and the admiral nelson-clones on the enemy team.
Jingles, after playing the Gneisenau for many many hours so I could unlock the Bismark it kind of grew on me. Trust me I hated the ship for the first 20 hours. It's fun to charge it into the enemy at high speed and launch torps.
Jingles..... You make my day!!!
Thank you for that opening. Lets let games be the escape from reality they are supposed to be o7
The Gesundheit is still a fan favorite from way back!
Well said in your intro, so on with the party!! Let's see some padding!!!
I have both T7 German BBs. They are both some of my favorite ships. That said, my Gneisenau is a secondary build with an 18 point captain. On a good outing I will get balanced damage from the main guns, secondaries and torpedos. The key for me is to play it like a cruiser in the first half of the battle hiding behind islands and taking pot shots at targets of opportunity, then use the speed to close the distance and brawl once the enemy over-commits themselves. It doesn't always work, sometimes the enemy team is smart enough to not over-commit, but as we all know, most WOWS players are not that smart so it works a good share of the time:) Despite the terrible accuracy, I still manage 32% hit rate with the main guns and above average damage.
I've been starring at my screen in disbelief many times, when my Gneisenau missed each and every shot at a battleship at ranges less than 4km...they truly are garbage guns...😅
Must be SMOOTHBORE barrels, I have no other explanation.
I once stopped grinding the German line when my Bisko missed a fully broadside Neptune in 5km. Not even over pen. 5 of the shells went over rest below the lucky ship.
And considering the state of the game. Germans BBs are indeed the worst of the bunch.
It's sort of the TOG of the WoW community. I've taken to using Gneisenau as a sort of "Designated Piñata". That is, it's useful when equipped as a brawler with full secondary build. Send such a Gneisenau into a Domination map to follow a lonely destroyer. It's fast enough to arrive at the cap shortly afterwards, then heads directly at the closest threat.
Designated Piñata won't live long, but several things happen before Gneisenau is sunk. In particular, nobody bothers the DD. First, you are in the way. This is good for the DD hiding in smoke, capping, torping, and setting things on fire; and it can be good for you, having a target-rich environment. Clever enemies will still get you, but so many enemies are not. Those who would otherwise be hiding come out and are visible, desperate for a piece of you. This is good for the team which now has a better picture of enemy dispositions. Such a Gneisenau pilot might mutter:
'Yes please, come closer, for if you don't I'm head-on and will largely dodge your torps. My turtleback armour will survive your pitiful shells for long enough that I will torp you, or fry you in in secondary fire, before I sink. To be sure, main battery might miss at 4km. So I won't fire then. Expect a full AP 15" broadside when you are only 0.4km away; and finally, Designated Piñata has one last torpedo. I will ram you.'
Then youre lucky, when i grinded it to bismarck , the gneisenau couldnt even hit under 1km with all shells, when i got the bismarck in my port i already de installed wows again 🤣
@@handgranate2008 : So wait till 0.4km, as mentioned, I guess. Why uninstall WoWs? Did you mean you sold Gneisenau?
thats why I picked up the Schornhorst, one of my favorite ships. I also like the German Battle Cruisers.
3:23 Just want to say that atleast the t7 pan-asian cruiser has pretty good AA, I usually get an AA expert achievement daily with it. Even stopped a couple of inbound strikes too.
Gneisnusnu is one of my favorite ships in the game. *Shrugs* I never found her guns that annoying. Mind you this was back when she was an AA goddess and the old meta.
Honestly I've found that in general ships with two-gun turrets tend to have trouble hitting targets, especially German ones. Mainly because when those shells divert from each other, they leave a nice gap to dodge through. When it comes to ships like Gneis and FDG, I spec the equipment for the main battery, but the captain for the secondaries.
About the statement you made at the beginning of the video - Thank you
I just have a brainfart: "General dodo needs to be in a Dido" XD
Yes jingles, those guns miss from every range even when you are right next to them and you fire and hit the superstructure instead of THE VERY OBVIOUS HULL!!!
thank you for an amusing break from real life...
Wow...Jingles making a reference to a possible WWIII...
Jingles the Gneisenau has 26 mm plating which can be overmatched by 15 inch guns
Thank You old man. I come here for entertainment and a brief reprieve from tje salt mines. That being said back to triple shifts Oh Mighty Gnome Overlord!
Whats sad is we're never gonna get a mini Jingles.
Jingles the Gneisenou has a 26mm bow not 27mm so 15 inch guns can over match it. That’s why I love using the Hood at tier 7 ranked or brawls. She can do everything a 16 inch gun BB can at tier 7 and she’s more accurate and nimble
Thank you for posting
"Like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle." I'm glad I can come here and get a proper education in British colloquy