Converting An Old School BMX Into A New School Bike!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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In today's video, Phu converts a 1989 GT Performer frame, fork and stem, with all modern day BMX parts off of Max Vu's 2021 Cult Custom Complete pro level bike.
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Converting An Old School BMX Into A New School Bike!
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What freecoaster is that? And what front hub?
2.25 or a slimmer 2.3 might work
But definitely 2.25 would work perfectly
Isn't your mallet a dead blow mallets are solid rubber with no lead shot in it. Just saying 😉
This has been on my mind. So many old/mid school frames out there just begging to be freshened up with new stuff. I’m in the process of doing this with my 01 beswick pro. Great vid brother 👍🏼
I had a 2003 Haro nyquist pro I took restored painted and put new school bmx parts on it now I swear every time I go to the skatepark I got the sickest bike there gets hella compliments
I would rather have the gt with Max’s parts on it then Max’s frame
If you’re a real OGBMX or then, yeah we all would🎉🎉🎉
Coolest bike shop ever, and the owner is a solid dude. This was a great video. 👍 Too many people try to create old school "museum" bikes, which doesn't make any sense to me. I have a Redline RL 20 and recently put on new Shimano PD-GR500 pedals that are light years better than the Shimano DX pedals from decades ago (which sell on ebay for a fortune). Bikes are meant to be upgraded and customized. In the early days of freestyle no one kept the bike as sold from the store, and most often just bought the frame and fork alone. Cranks were always upgraded, pedals were always upgraded, stem, bars, gripss, etc. The point is, freestyle bikes should be ridden, not sitting in a corner on a stand looking like a magazine ad depicting a bike no one actually rode. Don't get hung up on "era correct" parts, and most importantly, actually ride the bike 👍
Every bike has its place, if it’s over 10 years old and in great condition you should probably do your part in preserving the history, otherwise yea an older bike with some small issues I’d modernize all day
Phu, don't be afraid to fit a 1 1/8" fork in a old school frame. That works!, I brought back to life a haro sport 92, using an odissey fork.
I didn't machine cups (which would be great, maybe next time ).
@Flatt Bratts
Hi mate,
I kept the cups (old tioga) into the haro sport frame. Then, I bought a standard 1 1/8 FSA headsets and 3/32 small steel balls (more than a dozen).
I put the race, cover cups and washers from the FSA headset into the fork.
Just add steel balls in order to avoid some loose in your set up.
Hope that helps to you.
Love these old school new school videos! They are teaching me a lot about new school stuff. Thanks for for these videos
I had the same GT Performer when I was a kid in 1997! Pretty much same color mine was just a little darker. Had white 5 point star mags. Got it mint for only $40 at a flea market. I loved that bike!
Great video! I have that exact same frame hanging on my wall, I might have to build it now...
I’d say so!!
Do a wheel build with Ethan, it looks like he uses the correct method.
Hahaha different stroked for different folks
Yeah but those orange hubs with white spokes are fire!
I'm an 80's freestyle rider and I definitely can appreciate this video!
I’m restoring a 1983 diamondback viper aba no1 I think it’s such a cool bike
I have a (1980s)condor freestyle comp 20. Perchance would you happen to know what year the bike would be?
@@adamcoleman1369 That will be an awesome build!!!
@@phillipcrook8336 turn your bike upside down and where the crank arms would go there should be serial numbers. I believe the last 2 numbers are the year.
I've been looking for an original OG GT Performer frame and fork combo for the longest time for a retro modern project for the longest time. Glad this video confirmed it is indeed possible. Thanks ManFredo & Pepe Le Phu!😀
Look on Facebook marketplace a dude has one but it's pricey mint condition though
If I had to do this, maybe a 2.25 tires and 36t sprocket would be a good combo and look for that frame.
Blasphemy! Lol. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Great video guys.
Hahaha agreeed!!
I’m old school and just hate the way small gears look. I’m doing a build on a mid-school XXL aluminum race frame for a lightweight neighborhood putt and was just looking at a 44/16 with a sealed freewheel classic combo or a 25/9 cassette to modernize it but I think the larger frame would look silly with the tiny little gears. I’m also a bigger guy (6’-1", 200lbs) so I think the extra points of engagement and distribution of load would be better with the larger combo. I don’t mind keeping a spare freewheel handy just I case a break one. I mostly just ride the local trails and just want something that is fun to ride and light enough to let an old guy get a little air now and then and I think the old school setup works better for my needs and preferences. I may try a 25/9 at some point, just not this build.
Us old school bmxers like our brakes though.
Thanks phu for the video. Back in the day I used to run my goose neck all the way down for the stability.
You can mix 1 inch headset cups with 1 1/8” cones and freeball the ball bearings with no race. I’ve done it putting 1 1/8” thread less forks on a 1” 1970’s mongoose frame several times. A little tricky but works fine. Bless up fellas
I want to build my '00 DK General Lee with modern parts. Problem areas were bottom bracket and headset. But i got some cool tips from you guys!
It would use an American size bottom bracket and a headset conversion like the Mission Conversion headset that Phu mentioned in the earlier video, I believe. Hope that helps some too 🙂
Phu man you and Alf are awesome, you two and your crew do a lot for our industry……. Long live BMX !!!
Genuinely means a lot! Thanks Skylar!
When I used to live in México my first BMX was a standard fork and American Bottom Bracket and yeah, most of the parts I modded and changed to stronger and better parts like a 14mm rear hub and another stuff, except for my fork I kept using a Standard Fork but I found a brand new Primo Casket Stem for like 5 dollars which is like 100 pesos, great build imo so yeah, it’s safe to say that y’all can do this with mostly no issues like this guys did
That was my dream bike back in the day! Cool to see it updated. Thanks for the awesome content guys!
I’ve been doing this for that last 10 years I’m 21 and I love these old bikes I have a few old redlines and gts dynos that have been updated
I'm working on my 87' Haro Master! I'm glad to hear that others are breakin from the norm and adding new parts to an old frame! It's My bike and I can do what I want!!!!
I’ve been doing this with my old school bikes for some time now and thinks it’s great
7:56 “how about a day where you gotta wear pants” lmaooo😂😂😂
and shoes
Such wholesome characters in this film
I’d like to see Phu ride bike in the videos, you guys should do a ride around town, with Ethan, Max, Phu, Alfredo, and whoever else is around.
yes i agree a "Epic Ride Around" would be nice!
@@johnnypoo3166 do it!
This old to new school content you been putting out lately has been making me really feel my age. I still love it!
I had 2) of those performers back in the day…that same pink one and the white one…..along with a few mach ones that had that dyno stem just with the gt logo and 2.25 front tire and 1.75 rear ….man i miss them bikes
I need a shop like yours and dudes like you near me in Westminster Colorado !
Thank you for being so good !
The more I look at it the more I kinda like it.
Not a bad looking bike
thats dope Learned something new today i dont even BMX. Thank goodness they finished the bike looks good.
Great Video Phu it's fun watching you guys build stuff up. It would be cool to see you guys talk more about the old school frames. A video comparing geometry from back then to today's bikes would be really cool to see.
Eddie Bravo sure knows a lot about bikes.
i saw the title and thought you meant like geometry wise... like you were gonna put on an angle set and like machine the dropouts to make the bank end shorter or whatever. but now that I see that chainstay bridge, you probably couldnt shorten it enough.
Awesome video! I’ve been wanting to restore my brothers old 87 GT Freestyle with modern parts. You definitely inspired me to finally do it
I've found that old head tubes can fit new steer tubes if you change the bearing couplings.
I love what you guys are doing with these Informative videos. I think a lot of the RUclips BMX channels get lost in a lot of other silly stuff. Like the trendy you tube stuff. But I’m digging what you guys are doing. I think it would be so cool to do a BMX shop makeover. Reorganize and give your shop some new light. I think that would make a awesome video. Everybody helping to re-organize. Anyways keep the videos coming. Best ☝️
Thanks for the kind words! A shop reorganization would be amazing!
My man! I really appreciate this video. I'm 51 years old and have decided to bring my early 90s GT back to life. I want to do my 84 Haro Sport when I get done with the GT. Your videos are very helpful.
So funny, also 51 and doing the same to my 90 Gt Pft 😂
@@michaeldenis7010 that's cool man!
Did this on my friends old skool free agent with newer parts and it came out really good it's one of his favorite bikes
Funny thing is you can actually use the top and bottom racer from the fork to convert to Threadless. Sometimes you will luck out and be able to use the bottom race.. but all you have to do is gringo the threads out of the upper race. It will slide over the Threadless fork, and just use the rest of the hardware as usual. The forks will have about 3/32" of room to spin..it's tight but it will work 100%
I need that GT five dimple stem!
That bike looks SICK AF
Love it! I've been doing this with 60's and 70's 20" muscle bikes lately. Huffy Rails and Schwinn Stingray style frames. I love mixing the banana bike and BMX stuff together.
Did mine last week, upgraded my old bike with latest parts
Great video. Wish I would have seen it before I bought all new parts for my mid 90s Haro Shredder. I ran into the same compatibility issues you mentioned. My original fork has a 1" steer tube and the new stem was made for 1-1/8". Also new wheel I bought has a 14mm axle. I'm in the process of cutting, drilling, and tapping it for 3/8" bolts. Keep up the good work!
that thing looks amazing modernised
Done this with a Haro sport it was cool 😎
BMW Shinburgers...loved mine BITD. GREAT video fellas, fun.
That is cool that you can build an old bmx with new stuff, but that sure made that Performer look like a cheap big box store bike!
That chrome would look so nice though
Old man bike, cheeky bastard 🤣 gimme an oldschool bike over something modern any day 👌
Yo
That build looks SEXY! ! ! 👀
This is proof that you don't need a modern frame to start shredding.
Did this to an old DK frame, except I did a custom powdercoat on it. Nothing wrong with old frames!
Brooklyn Machine works SHINBURGERS 👍
You had me at old school 😂 ! Keep the bmx love alive 🤙🏻
Awesome video!! I gave my son my 1998 Diamondback Viper. Hes been learning the ropes and looking to do new style changes to it.😎😎
Okay, I have thought about doing these type of things for a while. I had an idea for the 1" headtube and fork issue and I'd like to know what you guys would think: there are 1" headtube BMX racing parts and frames out there. So, I thought about getting a 1" standard style headset, with 1" Threadless forks, and a 1" stem to convert the front end completely to Threadless without changing bearing size or using a gooseneck or any wedge parts at all. Great video as always!!
Chain tensioner on rear are great.3/8" pegs on rear and front.
Oh sure, just come out with this video now that all my old school frames are gone! I'm just kidding, but I am glad to have seen this, and my gears are grinding! Now I need to come up with a spectacular build, have a great night. Wes Sept
Cool video man. I've got a few old BMXs I might have to start messing around with.
Iv done this with my midskool eastern jane it runs a 25t sprocket with a semi sealed bb bearing setup and as its chainstay brakeing it works well theres also a modern wheelset with a 9t driver its lightened it up a bit too and is more rideable i did the same to my old holmes and it rode luverly 🤘
Pepi Le pew was lit lol 😂🤣
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR, FOR YEARS
What's up guys been slacking in sending more hotwheels been busy.
Yasss when you get the chance 💜
I would love to work in that bike shop!
Im actually converting a Schwinn Predator Comp Le right now for my son....Great video..the only down side is that it will be a hassle to go to a 14mm axle setup being that all the newschool set ups are on a casette drive.
I know I never comment but I always watch. I love these videos. Big fan of Phu.
Really appreciate that Joel!
@@AlfredoMancuso Big fan of you too of course. Pretty stoaked you replied.
Am I the only one that realized that Max’s bike was set up LHD but they set the GT up RHD.. not sure how it pedaled but it shouldn’t have at all.
Phu's sarcasm.. The gigantic sprocket, he called it a dinner plate 🍽️! 😂 Good video
I love Ethan he's so right u can't put a small sprocket on an old man's bike 🤣
Isn't that stem conversion for a road bike? That aluminum thing will snap in a few minutes on a freestyle bike
Pepe le phu is pretty good I chuckled.
It's exactly what I'm doing. Doing it with what I got. Shred regardless. Thanks y'all.
If you had a lathe you could reduce the size of the stem adapter.
I've lugged around my Pro Performer since 6th grade. Took it to a body shop to have it painted and it looks so bad I've never put it together. One of these days
You can absolutely outfit that frame and fork with most all current components. In fact: Its getting so much harder to get the old components anymore. You almost have to use the modern components. Especially if you want a mint perfectly dialed brand new looking ride. Find me some male/female1980's spider bolts for my old char-rings. Anyone!
You should link this video to the Headset and Bottom Bracket conversion you've done.
You need to bring in more old School bike like Haro red line GT performer and more
Will a Shadow Supreme chain fit on an old school bike with a 44 tooth sprocket up front, and a 16 tooth rear sprocket? I'm afraid the chain will be too short.
What those like 800-1000$ Brooklyn machine works pedals, so rad 🤯my mind to even see bmw parts
It’s crazy for sure!
Yes pls do a video about Brooklyn machine works 🙏🏻
I want one of the new school performers customized for BMX
I need one of those stem conversion pieces
Hey Phu! If you need a stem adapter I just found a brand new perigrine 21.1 in my garage.
Yeah I'm trying to figure out how I can open up the mounts on my rear wheel from a 3/8" axle to accept a 14mm axel I want this new KHE 9T cassette hub instead of the old skool 16T cog I got a new 3 piece crank with sealed bearings and the upgraded cups to drop the old one piece crank and ball bearing sets its turned out awesome. I want the 9T driver to fit on my old ass rolds royce union. It's totally doable. I'm about to take either a file or a grinder to the mounts and yeah my 2.35 tires just barely squeeze in my old skool frame
Gesh, how small are the front sprokets these days! Cool vids mate
I'm just on with building my 80s bmx that's been stored away since 1987 it's getting built with old school bmx parts and all original parts
Niceeeeee. You answered all my questions. Now I can just update my goose. Nice!
another great vid loved it. wish i still had my old bmx's from when i was a kid. keep up the great work fellas
That's was dope asf never thought about doing anything like that
I wanna see Phu bunny hop some old school bikes in sandals!
Drinking game on "guys" 🍻
Wow I didn't expect this vid so soon.
I just did this to my 89 Dyno VFR
Definitely grabbing a signature Max stem though.
I do want to see you make that stem work.
I couldnt imagine riding that thing😂😂
I’m doing this to a 87 Dyno D-Tour.
Subscribed!! Man, I love these videos.
I stopped using a crescent wrench start a stripping out parts only wrenches and sockets for me now.