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Hello. I've supported the 16 Days in Berlin project and am glad I did but I would like to ask what is the entry level of support required to get access to the digital version of the documentary ?(I know it won't be posted on RUclips). I had got the idea that 5€ was it but I am not sure. Any hint would help. Thank you .
@The Great War - I like your name tag/credential on the screen, Jesse! Are there any reliable figures on how many who had fought in the White Armies survived after their capture and/or the end of the Russian Civil War?
Main reason why the Whites lost was that they didnt acknowledge any new countries. Had they done so, those new independent states would have helped them in provisions, manpower and fights (for example Estonia on the Petrograd push). Instead they sometimes ended fighting with whites... Big loss on the diplomacy side - or lack of it rather.
So true! I am totally fascinated by this period. Lack of attention is partially because it is so complicated and also because it got overshadowed by WWII.
It’s a mess I think that’s why and also well at least in the west this is almost not talked about all we are taught is there was a revolution and the Soviet’s came to power and they don’t bring up whites greens or blacks
I feel like there's little to no coverage of the Greco-Turkish war, whilst this conflict started in may this year and was just as much a result of the great war as the Russian civil war was. Are you planning to cover it more in the future?
Most complicated for sure: Whites, their Allies (Western powers, Japan), Reds, former Russian Empire republics (ie Estonia, Poland), Greens, and the Anarchists in Ukraine. The communist party may have won, but the people of Russia and beyond only lost
@@nationradical Sure thing! Lest not forget the countless of shortlived republics that saw the light of day only to be overrun by either the Reds or the Whites. And true, the Russian Civil War had no winners in that sense.
It's one of the most important wars in history, but rarely do western history books cover it as there was virtually no effect on most western nation's. Out of all of these western nation's, the UK had the most involvement and doesn't mention their involvement in that much detail in regular carriculum. Infortunately there is even worse in the USA with there being little to no mention in US history books other then there was a civil war between white and red. The rest of the details of the war are only spoken in schools were once member states of the Russian led government or neighboring countries.
As a person who born and rise in the bloody soviet union i could tell that history lessons at schools was in favour of reds. As well roughly until 60-ies commies did everything to erase memories about WWI and whites. After 60-ies tide start to turn back.
I was sceptical at first about the longer episodes, but holy shit you guys deliver and then some on every episode. Jesse is an amazing host, thanks great war channel!
Being a Pole, do you know that Anton Denikin's mom was Elżbietа Wrzesińskа, he born in Poland and spoke polish fluently?! What i notified that polish historiography makes from him anti-polish monster. How person being semi-polish , born and rise there could hate poles? Actually he was just a good example of imperial person. By the way from the whites i more prefer Pyotr Wrangel, who was really better military officer and politician rather than Denikin, unfortunately he became a head of army way too late.
For narrow minded marxists the only thing i could wish - to get to the hands of "iron felixes" and they will always find a reason to execute you! leftists never learn from the history lessons! LOL
@@mikeromadin8744 nobody here cares about his mother was. Many russians were married to poles nad vice versa. Denikin wanted for all nations that gained independence to go back under tsars shoe. There was great anti-tsarist sentiment in all New republics, but Denikin wouldn't acknowledge this, that's why he didn't get any help. Also at this time Lenin was speaking about freedom for those countries, so whites looked like the 'bad' side of civil war. Nobody could predict what tragedy for world would reds become.
@@matimatimati1992 If we compare politics towards ethnical minorities between Russian Empire (since 1905) and interbellum Poland, Empire would be example of real freedom & democracy. LOL
There is a 2008 Russian film about Kolchak, and it shows him as a tragic hero. It's called "Admiral," and it's currently on RUclips with English subtitles.
5:02 My great great grandfather fought under Semyonov’s leadership during the civil war. He was apart of the Baikal Cossacks. Semyonov (according to my father and my grandma) tried to marry my great great grandfathers wife (before they were married obviously) 3 or 4 times, but she refused because she was in love with my great great grandpa. He went on to be captured by the communists in late 1940’s/early 50’s in China as he and his family moved there to escape communism, but when they turned communist, they were captured and interrogated by the NKVD. He was sent to a gulag, and was one of the leaders in one of the few successful gulag uprisings, known as the Norilsk Uprising.
-"The streets were so thickly littered with epaulettes. As to suggest the fallen leaves in autumn." What a sad remark about those who fought against communism in Russia.
@Ы Шуриков same to the French revolution or Paris revolution or Chinese revolution, due to too many in poverty, no foods, shelters, and very basic life conditions. When talking about communism or socialism, try to be rational to analyze the real scenario during that specific era rather to be brain-washed like a donkey "Manchurian Candidate", full of hate. Many Chinese youth prior to 1949 also very enthusiastic about revolution although many of them were well-educated and from well off families. Majority of them went to Yan-an, under the extremely hardships to try to save China. Even they didn't know the actual future for their endeavors, they risked their lives by doing so from their strong faiths and pure souls. Got to understand why and how the Soviet and Chinese liberations were achieved in 1917 & 1949. Read more, understand further. This is a agreeable comment to you. Although later both Soviet and China didn't do that well, too complicated to say here. Too fervent in politics later on, that maybe one of the core issues.
By the way, only pointed to the era prior 1949, or maybe including decades prior to the cultural revolution, after that, a mess, and very very corrupted to its core. No difference between the east bloc and west bloc in their super capabilities in manipulating and abusing powers. Politics r definitely dirty.
I started watching this channel to have an understanding of events after the Great War and the Russian Revolution.. I'm having an headache now trying to digest the events thus far.. it's so confusing with so many different factions, changing sides, etc.. am no closer to understanding after 8 episodes.. only more confused!
Any chance of an episode or series delving deeper into setting the stage of the Great War, like the influence of invasion literature on the public mind in the UK, anti-German effects of the Dreyfus Affair and the battlefield effect of the Redl Affair?
Not to be critical, but I think you misunderstand the entire premise of the channel, which is to follow events in real time. Yes, the channel currently is describing events thematically, not strictly week by week, but it's still moving forward in real time. You're asking them to go from 1919 back to pre-1914. Have you watched the first few videos the channel ever posted? ruclips.net/user/TheGreatWarvideos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid I don't know if they addressed your specific topics, but they did do 3 "Prelude to WWI" episodes. Or maybe you've watched those and are curious what Jesse's more detailed scholarship would produce on the same topics. In that case, I'm curious too, but I'm not sure they'll go back in time for us.
Way back in 2014 they did a series of episodes concerning the conditions and the diplomatic crisis that led to the war. They're probably the first videos on this channel but I don't think they go too deeply into the cultural aspects.
Thank you. I was a young teen when Riddle of the Sands and a few other movies that originated from Invasion Literature were on HBO rotation in the US. Thinking about the effect the radio broadcast War of The Worlds had on the night of its premiere and the impact of Upton Sinclair’s novel had on the American meat packing industry I can not help but wonder about the policy and social impact of Invasion Literature. A genre popular in the UK until the outbreak of the Great War. The Russians having the Austro-Hungarian invasion plan and apprising Serbian intelligence of it from the Redl Affair seems to never get mentioned in accounts of the respective performances of the armies. I would like to see it addressed in English in my lifetime. I really hope to see these points discussed if this channel is willing. Even if other channels have done it I would love to see their take on these issues.
@@thustra07 You obviously know a lot more about this topic than I do, so I was probably foolish to reply in the first place. However, I will clear up one apparent misunderstanding. I was not recommending what some other channel had said about the pre-war period. I was linking to the videos THIS channel made, back in 2014, about the prelude to war. That said, I have not actually watched those videos (I came to this channel mid-war) so I don't know what all was discussed, but I doubt back then they went into the level of detail necessary to analyze the topics you listed. You're right, only Jesse would look at something that closely. But, to repeat, I wasn't sending you elsewhere, I was sending you back to the beginning of this channel.
A good episode for what you do cover, especially in the East and North - however, I noticed you totally ignored the Black Anarchist army in your speech, yet the video map clearly showed the "Black stab in the back of the Whites" in the southern front which supported the Reds. Really, do you not think it may have been a factor in the defeat? I am surprised you did not even mention it.
Check out our previous episode from August, we talk about Makhno's most important battle against the Whites (this episode covers the time from October on).
The main reasons the whites lost is they were badly overstretched, they had had no coherent leadership,no unified vision for russia other than opposition to the bolsheviks, they lacked military competence, they treated the people under their rule like crap(which reminded them of the czar and further increased support for the bolsheviks)and they,unlike the reds lacked public support among the ordinary peoples of the russian empire nor an overriding ideology that could unite them. All of which the soviets had. Is it any wonder the whites lost?Add to that the fact that the whites had allied support while the reds had no one supporting them and you can see how poorly led and motivated the whites were. Imho i think they deserved to lose.
In terms of military strategy, the Reds were operating on interior lines. They could shift reinforcements around to stop and then counter-attack a White breakthrough. They had a unified leadership during the war - the Whites never had.
@@kaczynskis5721 and also the fact that they had no clear vision for how they would rule russia other than opposition to the Bolsheviks. Also they treated the people under their rule poorly which increased support for the reds.
@asdf even if they had joined with the social democrats they would have not have been a match for the reds. Especially given the fact that the first social democratic government russia had led by alexander terensky was a disaster as a leader.
Joshua Condell they didn’t deserve to lose yes they mess up but that’s so bad I don’t wish what happens yo Russian when the red won to any country and no one ever should
A Red poster was entitled "the nightmare of the deserter" - a deserter is depicted imagining the return of the Tsar, cossacks with knout whips and so on. The vast majority of soldiers were probably indifferent to whether Lenin, Kolchak or Denikin was head of the government, and supply difficulties could result in troops foraging for food and simply not returning. It was a hard core of a dedicated minority on both sides who kept it going.
The Great War I’m curious about something why? I mean no disrespect or being rude or anything but why would you guys cover it and not leave it to indy I mean he’s covering ww2 again I’m not trying to be rude or impolite I’m just curious love your videos both jessy and indy are great
In Siberia still wild animals, give nicknames Kolchak, this kind of memory he had left of himself. In the Urals, my grandmother was born in 1910, flies for their importunity called Cossacks.
иза таких краснопузых в стране жопа все стремятся в москву раньше у нас было много красивых городов пришли комуняки сделали специально чтобы все так было ужасно!
Because of lack of supply, discipline and also many of those soldiers experienced the trauma of WW1 which make them violent. In other video Jessy spoke about the similar attitude in the German Freikorps...
Mr. Alexander I am most impressed with your ability to make some sense of this incredibly complex morass which followed Russia's withdrawal form WW1 and subsequent revolution. It is mind boggling to say the least. I plan on watching all of your content, I must admit I sometimes have to watch an episode more than once to feel I am grasping what you have to say..., excellent job Jesse!!
I doubt these history and war channels are getting demonetized, I'm still seeing those repetitive ads. I don't mind ads on monetized videos but ads on demonetized videos??? Seriously???
Kolchak was looked too by conservative bourgeois forces as a possible dictator to be installed after the February revolution for purposes of suppression of Bolshevism and the more radical worker and peasant elements.
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Hello. I've supported the 16 Days in Berlin project and am glad I did but I would like to ask what is the entry level of support required to get access to the digital version of the documentary ?(I know it won't be posted on RUclips). I had got the idea that 5€ was it but I am not sure. Any hint would help.
Thank you .
@The Great War - I like your name tag/credential on the screen, Jesse!
Are there any reliable figures on how many who had fought in the White Armies survived after their capture and/or the end of the Russian Civil War?
Thanks for video.
If you are asking "why reds won?" - maybe you should look into soviet sources.
There are lot of memoirs and documents.
Just sayin'
Main reason why the Whites lost was that they didnt acknowledge any new countries. Had they done so, those new independent states would have helped them in provisions, manpower and fights (for example Estonia on the Petrograd push). Instead they sometimes ended fighting with whites... Big loss on the diplomacy side - or lack of it rather.
i love it, this time period really does not get enough attention
So true! I am totally fascinated by this period. Lack of attention is partially because it is so complicated and also because it got overshadowed by WWII.
It’s a mess I think that’s why and also well at least in the west this is almost not talked about all we are taught is there was a revolution and the Soviet’s came to power and they don’t bring up whites greens or blacks
So fascinating, and terrible, and epic!... Give us more! Lol
@@HistoryHustle Yes even the great war gets overshadowed by the second one
You can thank McCarthy for that.
22:20 / 25:09 A camel towing an armored car with a skull-and-bones symbol on it has to be the most 1919 thing ever.
Semyonov later went to Manchuria as a client of the Japanese. In 1945 he was captured by the Red Army as Japan collapsed, and later executed.
Your description of events is unparalleled. It's like watching an awesome film.
Thanks!
Jesse Alexander love your videos keep on fighting
Can't wait for your coverage of Polish-Soviet War!
Yeah! It's a super interesting war!
You know what they say.....
*Poland is not yet lost!*
@@historyarmyproductions Very interesting war... Destroyed Russia during the revolution against Poland. But in 1939 we took our revenge.
@Dwarov 1 Did I say anything about Poland? Read it carefully.
@Dwarov 1 I didn't write that Poland destroyed Russia.
I feel like there's little to no coverage of the Greco-Turkish war, whilst this conflict started in may this year and was just as much a result of the great war as the Russian civil war was.
Are you planning to cover it more in the future?
yes. the issue is that the Greek and Turkish archives are a nightmare to use to aquire photos or even Film reels.
we talked about it a bit in the Patreon Supporters Podcast
@@TheGreatWar can't forget that war also involved France and Britian
@@TheGreatWar are you guys foung to get to the Polish-Soviet War soon
@@schlymfrainkestxchieftains2623 Look at a calendar
When is October and everyone thinks about Hallowenn and nobody about October Revolution
Bolsevik cry
@David Frick They used the Julian calendar. Actually they still use it for deciding Church-holidays.
Hehehe
@@WildBillCox13 hihihi
Sad Bolshevik noises.
Well....
Halloween = Candy
Communist = Rape
Fact: one is better than the other.
Actually, the Russian Civil War might be the most simple ánd the most complicated conflict to study.
Most complicated for sure: Whites, their Allies (Western powers, Japan), Reds, former Russian Empire republics (ie Estonia, Poland), Greens, and the Anarchists in Ukraine. The communist party may have won, but the people of Russia and beyond only lost
@@nationradical Sure thing! Lest not forget the countless of shortlived republics that saw the light of day only to be overrun by either the Reds or the Whites. And true, the Russian Civil War had no winners in that sense.
Reminds me a lot of the early Islamic conquests.
@@2cool4fluoride Why is that? Love to know!
That's why I love it! xD
About to give a presentation on the Russian civil war and Great War posts. Nice
Of course you won’t conquer the Internet with untrained conscripts: you don’t have any, as you’ve trained all your viewers in the art of Great War.
Touché!
Yep five years and carrying on. I humbly consider myself quite battle hardened viewer right now.
AB8511 same I’ve been watching since high school freshman year and now I’m sophomore in college
I approve
Considering how massive this war was, it's strange that it's not as known as it should be
It's one of the most important wars in history, but rarely do western history books cover it as there was virtually no effect on most western nation's. Out of all of these western nation's, the UK had the most involvement and doesn't mention their involvement in that much detail in regular carriculum.
Infortunately there is even worse in the USA with there being little to no mention in US history books other then there was a civil war between white and red. The rest of the details of the war are only spoken in schools were once member states of the Russian led government or neighboring countries.
As a person who born and rise in the bloody soviet union i could tell that history lessons at schools was in favour of reds. As well roughly until 60-ies commies did everything to erase memories about WWI and whites. After 60-ies tide start to turn back.
If you don't know anything about it, it doesn't make it unknown. The Russian Civil War is very well studied.
@@vguyver2 The US Civil war too is left up in the air. Historians in each country enduring a Civil War are always non commital.
@CommandoDude But the effects are enormous even today.
Untrained conscript reporting for duty, sir!
Go fight those reds pesant! Today omsk tomorrow Moscow
Thanks for your hard work. Very interesting, important and informative channel.
Bloomberg c
I was sceptical at first about the longer episodes, but holy shit you guys deliver and then some on every episode. Jesse is an amazing host, thanks great war channel!
Thanks!
Pictures 📷 are pheomenal !!!
Nothing like the smell of war crimes in the morning
Along with incest and Habsburg chins.
Gun Jesus!
razoleg Hahahaha, you’re not funny.
The Russian Civil War was so bloody and devastating
Awesome video. My favorite history channel on RUclips. Keep up the good work.
No wonder Poles didn't want to help Denikin, who belived in 'one and indevisible' Russia. He wanted for all nations to go back to Russia.
Yes, that was a major point of contention among the White movements and some of their allies.
Being a Pole, do you know that Anton Denikin's mom was Elżbietа Wrzesińskа, he born in Poland and spoke polish fluently?! What i notified that polish historiography makes from him anti-polish monster. How person being semi-polish , born and rise there could hate poles? Actually he was just a good example of imperial person. By the way from the whites i more prefer Pyotr Wrangel, who was really better military officer and politician rather than Denikin, unfortunately he became a head of army way too late.
For narrow minded marxists the only thing i could wish - to get to the hands of "iron felixes" and they will always find a reason to execute you! leftists never learn from the history lessons! LOL
@@mikeromadin8744 nobody here cares about his mother was. Many russians were married to poles nad vice versa. Denikin wanted for all nations that gained independence to go back under tsars shoe. There was great anti-tsarist sentiment in all New republics, but Denikin wouldn't acknowledge this, that's why he didn't get any help. Also at this time Lenin was speaking about freedom for those countries, so whites looked like the 'bad' side of civil war. Nobody could predict what tragedy for world would reds become.
@@matimatimati1992 If we compare politics towards ethnical minorities between Russian Empire (since 1905) and interbellum Poland, Empire would be example of real freedom & democracy. LOL
1.11 million untrained conscripts ready for battle.
"The only RUclips history channel that does not blame all its' problems on the Hebrew."
They aren’t being serious btw they usually make the part a joke so don’t take that literal
I'm really enjoying this channel and learning some new stuff along the way. Great job with the narrating Jesse. Thumbs up
Thanks!
My regimental mascots name is Kolchak, And he is a pure bred Russian wolfhound. US 27th Infantry Regiment
1919 - bourgies
2019 - bougies
2119 - Cybourgies
Such a great episode. Good work!
Only in 1919 🙄
I absolutely love that closing line! 😂😂
I think I might just be experienced enough to be an untrained conscript. 🤣🤣🤣
There is a 2008 Russian film about Kolchak, and it shows him as a tragic hero. It's called "Admiral," and it's currently on RUclips with English subtitles.
Literal brain rot
I love how these episodes end
Jesse Alexander and the Czechoslovak Legion star in "Throw Kolchak From The Train" - film at 11.
ROFL! 🤣 😂 😅
23:06
Hearts and minds
Hearts and minds
One in the heart
Two in the mind!
5:02 My great great grandfather fought under Semyonov’s leadership during the civil war. He was apart of the Baikal Cossacks. Semyonov (according to my father and my grandma) tried to marry my great great grandfathers wife (before they were married obviously) 3 or 4 times, but she refused because she was in love with my great great grandpa. He went on to be captured by the communists in late 1940’s/early 50’s in China as he and his family moved there to escape communism, but when they turned communist, they were captured and interrogated by the NKVD. He was sent to a gulag, and was one of the leaders in one of the few successful gulag uprisings, known as the Norilsk Uprising.
Then he was part of a genocide of 50 million plus people. And he should be ashamed
-"The streets were so thickly littered with epaulettes. As to suggest the fallen leaves in autumn."
What a sad remark about those who fought against communism in Russia.
@Ы Шуриков same to the French revolution or Paris revolution or Chinese revolution, due to too many in poverty, no foods, shelters, and very basic life conditions. When talking about communism or socialism, try to be rational to analyze the real scenario during that specific era rather to be brain-washed like a donkey "Manchurian Candidate", full of hate. Many Chinese youth prior to 1949 also very enthusiastic about revolution although many of them were well-educated and from well off families. Majority of them went to Yan-an, under the extremely hardships to try to save China. Even they didn't know the actual future for their endeavors, they risked their lives by doing so from their strong faiths and pure souls. Got to understand why and how the Soviet and Chinese liberations were achieved in 1917 & 1949. Read more, understand further. This is a agreeable comment to you. Although later both Soviet and China didn't do that well, too complicated to say here. Too fervent in politics later on, that maybe one of the core issues.
By the way, only pointed to the era prior 1949, or maybe including decades prior to the cultural revolution, after that, a mess, and very very corrupted to its core. No difference between the east bloc and west bloc in their super capabilities in manipulating and abusing powers. Politics r definitely dirty.
Hard core history . . you's are doing good work
p. 437 has alot of info on it - every single quote of the book comes from that page!
This was a wonderfully informative video. nice job.
Fantastic. So educating and clear. Thank you.
Great job, Jesse
I'm excited about the documentary.
I started watching this channel to have an understanding of events after the Great War and the Russian Revolution.. I'm having an headache now trying to digest the events thus far.. it's so confusing with so many different factions, changing sides, etc.. am no closer to understanding after 8 episodes.. only more confused!
I love your Videos. Time to say thank you! 😊
Awesome episode! :)
But where was the round-up-session?
It will be in the 2nd October episode.
Really excited about the Greco-Turkish War.
I’m pretty sure that was covered on TimeGhost history channel, that they also run
Incredible!
omg my final history exam on revolutions, specifically Russia and America is in 5 days thank you so much!!!!
0:36 I need 10h of this intro!
Any chance of an episode or series delving deeper into setting the stage of the Great War, like the influence of invasion literature on the public mind in the UK, anti-German effects of the Dreyfus Affair and the battlefield effect of the Redl Affair?
Not to be critical, but I think you misunderstand the entire premise of the channel, which is to follow events in real time. Yes, the channel currently is describing events thematically, not strictly week by week, but it's still moving forward in real time. You're asking them to go from 1919 back to pre-1914. Have you watched the first few videos the channel ever posted? ruclips.net/user/TheGreatWarvideos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid I don't know if they addressed your specific topics, but they did do 3 "Prelude to WWI" episodes. Or maybe you've watched those and are curious what Jesse's more detailed scholarship would produce on the same topics. In that case, I'm curious too, but I'm not sure they'll go back in time for us.
Way back in 2014 they did a series of episodes concerning the conditions and the diplomatic crisis that led to the war. They're probably the first videos on this channel but I don't think they go too deeply into the cultural aspects.
Thank you. I was a young teen when Riddle of the Sands and a few other movies that originated from Invasion Literature were on HBO rotation in the US. Thinking about the effect the radio broadcast War of The Worlds had on the night of its premiere and the impact of Upton Sinclair’s novel had on the American meat packing industry I can not help but wonder about the policy and social impact of Invasion Literature. A genre popular in the UK until the outbreak of the Great War.
The Russians having the Austro-Hungarian invasion plan and apprising Serbian intelligence of it from the Redl Affair seems to never get mentioned in accounts of the respective performances of the armies. I would like to see it addressed in English in my lifetime.
I really hope to see these points discussed if this channel is willing. Even if other channels have done it I would love to see their take on these issues.
I was hoping for this channel’s more detailed scholarship.
@@thustra07 You obviously know a lot more about this topic than I do, so I was probably foolish to reply in the first place. However, I will clear up one apparent misunderstanding. I was not recommending what some other channel had said about the pre-war period. I was linking to the videos THIS channel made, back in 2014, about the prelude to war. That said, I have not actually watched those videos (I came to this channel mid-war) so I don't know what all was discussed, but I doubt back then they went into the level of detail necessary to analyze the topics you listed. You're right, only Jesse would look at something that closely. But, to repeat, I wasn't sending you elsewhere, I was sending you back to the beginning of this channel.
Great video.
Спасибо!
I'm glad you covered crimes of Czechoslovak legion. Because there video on King's And Generals where people in comments claim they heroes.
Gajda certainly threw Kolchak under a bus.
I just realized, the desk has been cleared. Did Indie take his shit with him? Lol
Will you make a video about Lithuanian war of Independence?
I already expect lithuanian-polish war in the comments.Will be something like "Vilnius - musu"... nie "Wilno - jest nasze" LOL
Yes, we will.
A good episode for what you do cover, especially in the East and North - however, I noticed you totally ignored the Black Anarchist army in your speech, yet the video map clearly showed the "Black stab in the back of the Whites" in the southern front which supported the Reds. Really, do you not think it may have been a factor in the defeat? I am surprised you did not even mention it.
Check out our previous episode from August, we talk about Makhno's most important battle against the Whites (this episode covers the time from October on).
Yall need to use Ecosia
Great job speaking Russian Jesse!
12:20 just EAST of Estonia? West of Estonia is the Baltic.
The main reasons the whites lost is they were badly overstretched, they had had no coherent leadership,no unified vision for russia other than opposition to the bolsheviks, they lacked military competence, they treated the people under their rule like crap(which reminded them of the czar and further increased support for the bolsheviks)and they,unlike the reds lacked public support among the ordinary peoples of the russian empire nor an overriding ideology that could unite them. All of which the soviets had. Is it any wonder the whites lost?Add to that the fact that the whites had allied support while the reds had no one supporting them and you can see how poorly led and motivated the whites were. Imho i think they deserved to lose.
In terms of military strategy, the Reds were operating on interior lines. They could shift reinforcements around to stop and then counter-attack a White breakthrough. They had a unified leadership during the war - the Whites never had.
@@kaczynskis5721 and also the fact that they had no clear vision for how they would rule russia other than opposition to the Bolsheviks. Also they treated the people under their rule poorly which increased support for the reds.
@asdf even if they had joined with the social democrats they would have not have been a match for the reds. Especially given the fact that the first social democratic government russia had led by alexander terensky was a disaster as a leader.
Joshua Condell they didn’t deserve to lose yes they mess up but that’s so bad I don’t wish what happens yo Russian when the red won to any country and no one ever should
@@criscabrera9098 yes they did deserve to lose they were part of the old regime that was so despised by majority of russians
This is the beginning of the end
what about when US intervened at murmansk?
They've already covered that and the Siberian intervention in two separate videos.
What a terrible time to be alive
21:35
What happened to Indienydell?
He moved to the world war 2 and between the wars channels.
24:40 Would valiantly join as an untrained conscript to this channel in its struggle for a more History-friendly RUclips!
Cuando va hablar subtitulo en español,me interesa esta historia .
These Reds just might win this one
Can anybody put into context what exactly Lenin's plan for the defense of Petrograd was?
Damn, said the Reds.
We gotta start pillaging some stuff.
Can't be outdone by the Whites. Got to pillage at least as much as the Whites. How else can they say they beat the Whites in every aspect.
2:22 100,000 men 300 guns. What did the rest use swords ? Perhaps he meant machine guns or artillery pieces ?
PRESSUREWORKS obviously?
Kyle Waltman he mentioned guns several times but never mentioned what type.
Gun - Perhaps incorrect translation from Russian. This word means all artillery in the army (guns, howitzers, all types).
Watching in 2024!
22:30 What's the name of the song in the background? Btw amazing job as always! Thanks :)
It's called "Find My Boy and Bring Him Home - Bonnie Grace". you can find it on epedemic sounds. Enjoy ;)
Fitting that this comes out just as Assad wraps up the Syrian Civil War.
Everyone in 1919: Alright let's try and just recover from this horrible war.
Russia in 1919: w h e r e w e d r o p p i n b o i s
What is the reason for the massive amount of desertion? Are people tiered of endless wars?
That and state collapse meant it was very difficult to maintain order and discipline in society generally, including the armies.
They were tired of fighting they were starving and everyone around them didn’t want to get involved why should they suffer and they wanted an out
A Red poster was entitled "the nightmare of the deserter" - a deserter is depicted imagining the return of the Tsar, cossacks with knout whips and so on.
The vast majority of soldiers were probably indifferent to whether Lenin, Kolchak or Denikin was head of the government, and supply difficulties could result in troops foraging for food and simply not returning. It was a hard core of a dedicated minority on both sides who kept it going.
Interesting Times
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From the trenches to this a long way we have come
What a mess!
Did you name the series 16 days in Berlin because the real battle took 16 days or is there another reason
because of the length of the Battle and we want to cover it day by day
The Great War I’m curious about something why? I mean no disrespect or being rude or anything but why would you guys cover it and not leave it to indy I mean he’s covering ww2 again I’m not trying to be rude or impolite I’m just curious love your videos both jessy and indy are great
Please check out Micahistory 2, it would mean a lot!
In Siberia still wild animals, give nicknames Kolchak, this kind of memory he had left of himself. In the Urals, my grandmother was born in 1910, flies for their importunity called Cossacks.
it's true. Not only in Siberia. Even in Central Russia, the most vicious dogs were called Kolchaks. I remember from my childhood
иза таких краснопузых в стране жопа все стремятся в москву раньше у нас было много красивых городов пришли комуняки сделали специально чтобы все так было ужасно!
Слава белой гвардии долой немецкого шпиона
Russian civil war, game of thrones in real world... we need netflix or hbo series about this
Sad how both armies juts murdered and pillaged
most atrocities was done by reds, white atrocities was mostly in the eastern front theater by Semionov, Annenkov etc white guerilla
Because of lack of supply, discipline and also many of those soldiers experienced the trauma of WW1 which make them violent. In other video Jessy spoke about the similar attitude in the German Freikorps...
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Isn't that what armies before the Treaty of Westphalia do? Murder and pillage?
So want to dress up as a red for Halloween
Be careful what you wish for!
@@TheCimbrianBull haha yeah. Gulag vibes
Reporting for duty! I'm not an untrained conscript but a battle hardened turncoat. How much will you pay for my services?
A lot of internet money
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Sign me up! 😀
@@TheCimbrianBull Of course the commissar will be watching you, to ensure your continued cooperation with the dialectical development of history.
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The dictatorship of the proletariat!
Mr. Alexander I am most impressed with your ability to make some sense of this incredibly complex morass which followed Russia's withdrawal form WW1 and subsequent revolution. It is mind boggling to say the least. I plan on watching all of your content, I must admit I sometimes have to watch an episode more than once to feel I am grasping what you have to say..., excellent job Jesse!!
But where is Indy?
He moved to the world war 2 and between the wars channels.
The Russian civil war needs a HBO show game of thrones style.
Herbert Hoover literally fed Russia during this period with the international emergency food program facilitated by the US.
Great, but stop saying “literally” all the time.
If we wanted to.
Where's what's his name?
He moved to the world war 2 and between the wars channels.
Have you gone through everything in world war 1?
Yes they have. Look up their channel and you should find a playlist. I recommend it.
We consider this part of World War 1
Will The Great War produce more supplement videos like special episodes, out of the trenches, out of the ether, who did what, etc....?
At the moment, we don't have the capacities for that.
I doubt these history and war channels are getting demonetized, I'm still seeing those repetitive ads. I don't mind ads on monetized videos but ads on demonetized videos??? Seriously???
And begin the future of 2 Great War and a Cold War.
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Great video! Thanks a lot! General YudEnich not YUdenich, that's how it sounds in Russian. Kolchak was betrayed all right, poor guy
Kolchak was looked too by conservative bourgeois forces as a possible dictator to be installed after the February revolution for purposes of suppression of Bolshevism and the more radical worker and peasant elements.
Omsk is the favorite topic of techno songs. Like 99% of techno the only lyric is omsk omsk omsk omsk.
Need to go c ur earlier episode. Don’t understand y d monarchists suddenly became cowards? Did Lenin execute the tsar?
Yes he did he can’t cover all of revolution they have wailer episodes about it but yes tsar is gone and reds took over
more episodes about russia, pls
The Irish war for independence would be a good subject in the interwar period
That one time in history where Kolchak got vibe checked