zain and ginger have the same problem to me. they both force and chase the neutral exchange to much and not enough cheese. zain just doesnt edge guard hungry enough same with genger. just look at how many over b recoveries leffen had then go watch ginger and you'll notice the same problem. they both show to much respect and prefer to just exchange neutral and win that way. i just dont ever see them beating on point top 5 without some cheep/ hungry edge guards. zain looks like he just wants to combo you/ while ginger looks like just wants to analyse the person so he gives them room to perform.
I def feel what you're saying in this set, but overall Zain's edge guard game is pretty sic-nasty. I can definitely see him taking leaps in rankings if he can improve with consistency only slightly.
@@nikmarshall2989 i can respect that opinion zain definitely has moments where he looks unstoppable. His neutral and spacing plus combo game is crazy spectacular. Then i started to notice because of that he wouldn't chase the quick kill alot and just prefer to beat outright. Then i watch leffens talk about him and m2k and even he confirmed that if zain had m2k's sick edge guards marth would always body him. When i heard that it was like my top 5 player validation that i wasnt seeing things lol. Then i noticed ginger had the same problem. Where he would just respect his opponent and not look for quick or sic down air spikes like mango does.
14:15
when you try and set up your co commentator for the end game speech highlight but they don't catch on
I think HMW just didn't want to say it lol
11:51 *teleports behind you* nothing personnel kid
his turn arounds are INSANE
Leffen is having none of that beach ball.
The good old days before Zain went demon mode
zain out here representing ricardo milos with that intro
That four stock hype.
Was this the last time Zain’s Marth got 4 stocked?
"one trick pony"
Salem: Keep speaking
He IS a one trick pony as Ultimate competitive scene sent him to the lower leagues which is Melee
@@Yokai_Yuri wait which one
Omega Storm u suck at marvel sitcho ass down LMAO
Leffen's Losers run was pretty sick. Mang0, Plup, Zain, and had Hbox on his last stock... Pretty big leff.
Zain didn’t lose a set to a single fox for 2 years after this
Under viewed set
The little intro thing of the players was pretty funny. In a cringy way.
Does any else just skip marth fights on fd?
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zain and ginger have the same problem to me. they both force and chase the neutral exchange to much and not enough cheese. zain just doesnt edge guard hungry enough same with genger. just look at how many over b recoveries leffen had then go watch ginger and you'll notice the same problem. they both show to much respect and prefer to just exchange neutral and win that way. i just dont ever see them beating on point top 5 without some cheep/ hungry edge guards. zain looks like he just wants to combo you/ while ginger looks like just wants to analyse the person so he gives them room to perform.
I def feel what you're saying in this set, but overall Zain's edge guard game is pretty sic-nasty. I can definitely see him taking leaps in rankings if he can improve with consistency only slightly.
@@nikmarshall2989 i can respect that opinion zain definitely has moments where he looks unstoppable. His neutral and spacing plus combo game is crazy spectacular. Then i started to notice because of that he wouldn't chase the quick kill alot and just prefer to beat outright. Then i watch leffens talk about him and m2k and even he confirmed that if zain had m2k's sick edge guards marth would always body him. When i heard that it was like my top 5 player validation that i wasnt seeing things lol. Then i noticed ginger had the same problem. Where he would just respect his opponent and not look for quick or sic down air spikes like mango does.
Solid opinion.
@@Pray4urSINs You got your wish. Are you happy?
@@Michael-hc2hp Sorry im confused this was a year ago lol