I Built The Ultimate PS2 System For 2024 (And Beyond)
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2023
- After months of waiting for shipments and soldering parts together, my PS2 is now complete. This hosts a ton of different mods that has worked to modernize the system completely for 2024 and beyond.
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Forgot to mention the footage at the end is from a range of settings and aspect ratios I tried until I settled on the 4:3 1080p settings. It was a fun project and worth it in the end for what I wanted out of it.
Do you do services in installing? I have pixelfx. I don't have the power adapter
You got it standing up, but you didn't twist the ps symbol on the disc drive??
Wipe the case down with Armour All.
what kind of input lag were you getting on that ps4 controller?
@npc_N8 Jesus loves you all ❤️ his the only why to heaven❤
An important thing to note with the Retro GEM and part of the controversy with it is that the "shiny" upgrade can be purchased at any time even after the device has been installed. So the basic edition of the GEM theoretically has the capability of doing the shiny upgrade but the extra $70 needs to be paid to "unlock" the capability.
Some people may not use the functionality but it's annoying to know that the functionality is there just locked behind a paywall.
So its kind of just...$70 for a software update? thats kinda shitty :/
@@knightsurdaisn't that what DLC is? Everyone flocks to that. Even MK1 got people paying for fatalities which is just a movie you don't get to interact with
@@alexandersalazar9750 If ppl spend Money on a fatality animation, that's totally there fault. Noone really need this.
But having a System Update that makes things alot better and have to pay for it, is more like you have to spend money for a Patch, not for a dlc.
At the end it just let it look like, that ppl are forced to pay the 190$, because the basic thing is not the whole package. (and i think even 120$ for the basic is expensive)
Why are people so pissed at this? I love the option for a basic edition. I got it for the PS1 and saved all that money. I’d rather them offer that than pay extra money for stuff I don’t want/need. More options is never a bad thing. If you don’t like it, vote with your wallet.
@@mpowerness92 Simple Answer: It's easy possible to sell it for 120$ but goes the premium price way. It's not like they sell actuall better hardware, only locking what the thing already can, behind a paywall.
Amazing Job! This is an example that the PS2 is more alive than ever!
Every time I see the fat ps2 I’m overwhelmed with nostalgia.
Still to this day the greatest console of all time.
same
I just picked up a PS2, Xbox 360, and Wii with the intention of modding all 3 of them to some extent. Wii Homebrew is well established, and the PS2 and Xbox 360 have been getting a lot of love lately. 6th and 7th gen consoles/games were the best, in my opinion, so wanted a way to play any of those games when I want to. Would love to see you do something like this with the 360.
Get a wii u tho
Can play gamecube and wii games on it as well more bang for your buck
Waste of time and money for me. The only WiiU games that I care about have all been remastered into Switch games just like all the other WiiU games that were worth anything. Like I said in my original comment, The 6th and 7th Gen console games were my favorite, and I can play all of them on native hardware now. I don't care at all about having a WiiU, so it would be a waste for me. Plus the Wii and has one of if not the most fleshed out Homebrew scene out of any home console. I can even order pizza with it. Lolol
@@itranscendencei7964 lol Wii U modding scene is literally the same thing as the Wii modding the difference is playing Wii games on the Wii U is much much better because of the HDMI output plus there are tons of great Wii and Wii U games that are still not ported to modern platforms so its really handy to have a Wii U cuz its a bang for your buck
so its really not about the games you really cared about its about having the best option for these things lol
Almost all of the good Wii u games can be played on the switch and if you break the gamepad Thay are $100 dollar to replace just saying you would seriously just be better off getting Wii for super easy to jailbreak and still pick one up for 40 bucks as well
Agreed. That's why I got the Wii. :)
the HDR is just to fight back the darkening effect that the scan lines cause, it's just to take advantage of the increase brightness HDR mode provides
Super cool all around... In terms of shell I'd totally get a 100% transparent one cuz I've always loved that look... I have a PS2 Fat that's softmodded for loading games only as well as I use component cables from HDRetroVision. It looks really good, but yeah having HDMI would make it easier to capture and stream from than using a RetroTink family linedoubler. Great video.
Great video! I still have a few PS2s left (1 fat and 2 slim I think) but I'll probably never mod them. I went through the trouble of tracking down a PS3 A01 a few years ago. I delidded it, applied new thermal paste and pads and added a +30% fan mod. The fan mod ended up being pointless since the custom firmware allows you to set custom fan curves. That system covers PSX, PS2 and PS3. I have a modded Vita 2000 for PSP and Vita games and a PS5 for PS4 and PS5 games.
I modded a ps2 similar to this. As someone who loves retro gaming i took a lot of joy in learning to mod older consoles. It also helps that my major is computer science.
This thing is awesome! Congrats on the build! I feel like an epic custom shell would be really cool eventually. Hey have you tried building the ultimate Dreamcast?
It should be said that adding an SSD does nothing for load times nor does changing the adapter to sata. The bus speeds remain IDE speed. That said, use whatever drive you’ve got that’ll fit and is compatible.
Should last longer though? less moving parts
I don't mind the regular load times for games. But will the SSD speed up the scrolling through OPL? I have a loaded 2 TB HDD that takes forever to search for games. Should I upgrade?
@@no5544true. Spinning platers don’t have the longevity of SSD’s so you’re essentially throwing money away
And quiet little spinning drive tells you if the imaginary big disc is spinning
got it so no upgrade either way but im just losing out on the internet stuff I wasnt gonna use anyways. But its still an option because I do have the original one, just found the sata version for cheaper than doing the mod.
7:02 People keep talking about the PS2 slim's external adapter but the 9000 series has it internally, it's a brilliant design
This 👆
Have you tried using GSM to force 480p on the games that are interlace only? It doesn't work with every game, but it does work with some and it can look really nice when it does. Using the "NTSC" option that GSM has also can disable the flicker filter/resolution changes that games not compatible with forced 480p mode may have. FXR smoothing also helps a lot to smooth the edges on the RetroGEM itself.
I've done the install a few times now. Using the RePS2 opens up the option to power the PS2 through USB-PD and it works great! Grab the 12v cable from adafruit, get a 12v usb pd charger like the ugreen ones, and now it's powered by USB-C. I've tested it for hours without issue with the Retro Gem. Hope that helps!
Great and classic idea renewing the ps2, It looked good, Thank you
The HDR mode is there specifically for models that support BFI to get around the limitations of sample-and-hold displays compared to a CRT. Often this makes the image quite dark and you can get around this using HDR modes.
I also just recently finished my PS2 build. Exchanged the IDE connector on my original PS2 Network Adapter so that I could use a 2 TB Samsung SSD which work flawlessly. Bought the 8BitDo retroreceiver as well and using a Dualsense PS5 controller. I have the PS2 connected to the MX8000 B&O tv via a Scart cable I bought from Retro Gaming Cable in the UK. Only thing I’m considering is exchanging the case but I think the OG black case looks great.
Love these type of videos!!!
@spawn wave, I've been following your PS2 projects for some time. Amaizing. I also done the Gamecube full mods (except the HDMI. I use the Prism HDMI adapter). I hope to see mor eof the Original Xbox. Struggling with 1TB SSD upgrade without adding modchip. Thanks.
Makes me look forward to acquiring a PS2 soon just to do this simple mod to play all the great games I played once again. The PS2 was & still is a juggernaut console in 2024 to have in your collection as a gamer
Amazing work for a ps2 realy good image output.👌
Quality, easy to watch video. I am also thinking about modding a PS2.
Very nice modifications. Thank you. I will save this video to maybe take the same route one day. 😊 The only thing still bothering me is that OPL is still very incomplete game-compatibility-wise and complicated to set up. For gamecube and dreamcast, the available ODEs do a much more accurate job in my opinion. Anyways, very good video. Keep up your great work. 😊
Noctua fans are awesome! I used a bunch of them in upgrading my 3D printers and now they are almost silent. Also I upgraded the motherboards that contain the motor drivers and it is so quiet
You can also still play online. Socom II will never die. Gran Turismo 4 (online beta) and Killzone are pretty active too
I think I missed you mentioning something about the latency of changing resolution outputs on-the-fly. e.g. Gran Turismo 4 switching from 1080i from 480i when jumping into a race--plus on the PS1 side, the well-known issue of opening and closing the menu during gameplay in Chrono Cross etc.
I will PAY REAL MONEY for a video showing how to do all this.
scph 50000 is basically silent, fan also wouldn't look ugly like the noctua fan. I bought the fan and added it to my older console and it's basically whisper quiet. If you're gonna go the hdd route you can use exfat nowadays too makes it easier to copy games over
easily one of the strongest hardware for its time 🎉 pure nostalgia
The ultimate PS2 is actually a backwards compatible PS3 imo
yeah 😂
Unreliable systems honestly.
@@TailsGuy72 Get it serviced before you start using them. With proper fan control they should last a while. I've seen people with almost 1000 days of use on those models.
Or just get a steam deck and download ps2 emulator 👌🏽
Nah, those are ticking time bombs like the first Xbox360. Literally the only way to make them reliable is to get the GPU from a PS3 slim.
Im in the middle of figuring out the video situation for mine. Tried the level hike and its ok but thought the MClassic would help smooth that out and it hasnt, component is also ok but my tv is way too big for that so now gonna try the kaico adapter which is component out in HDMI -> mClassic -> TV . once i have that working the way I want, Im gonna get the HDD situation sorted.
Great work!
I just recently bought that 8bit duo & it's awesome
Recommend the GBS-Control or Gbsc if you cant solder or find a modder. Easy set up @1080p with the Ps2.
This is my dream version of the PS2. I'm really looking forward to be able to afford it. :)
I am so glad that they finally came out with the ps2 Bluetooth adapter.
You should do a series where you optimise modern systems for crt displays. 😁
I think that'd be really cool too!
Why would anyone want a CRT?
I wanna play Nintendo Switch Online N64 on my CRT!
@@X2Brute sorry it probably wouldn't end well because they don't have a full screen option :/ a homebrewed Wii with an N64 emulator makes a good replacement tho :)
Literally just sent my ps2 out to get the upgrade done. I understand why everyone is upset about the shiny upgrade, 1080p should be the in the regular standard edition. If youre charging $125 for the part, and it requires labor of someone who is extremely skilled with soldering(I have my J-standard and I don’t even want to do it) it’s roughly $225-260. I had the 3900 series so I needed to mod my power supply, so I paid $300 total. So you’re paying $300 to get a modernized ps2 to have 720p. It’s upsetting but the positive I see with it is I can pay later on to get the shiny edition and I don’t have to worry about doing this whole process over for an upgrade.
It’s because how things are rendered when being outputted from source code and what hardware and software the os is able to handle as far as resolution.
The point of those old consoles is to remind us of our childhood memories. While it would of been nice to have all of those features back in the day I don't need them to enjoy the PS2 now. But it is nice to see the PS2 still lives. 😎👍💯
Based purist, respect.
With the adapter does the sensitive keystroke on R2 and L2 still work? (using PS4 controller)
I bought recently the predecessor of this adapter and it doesn’t work for R2 & L2.
My adapter is the blue retro and I haven’t updated the firmware yet
Are you using the i-link port or is there another reason you did not go the slim route with IDE resurrector to micro SD + Methylene (internal bluetooth mod) + Retro Gem? You can hide interlacing with a scanline generator. Also, I woul like to know how that 8bitdo reciver handles Ridge Racer V. Dose the analog work in that game? Also, can you get 5,1 over HDMI on DVD movies and games that support it?
I loved the Logitech wireless PS2 controller. Had one for the Xbox, too.
I remember having to sit on the floor in front of an older "big screen" playing Playstation, and the image from the TV would have a dark shade on certain parts from viewing up... oh the days of past 😅
With the trouble you have to go through to install this I'm good. I got one of those cheap 12 dollar hdmi converter for my ps2 and it works just fine. I like that my ps2 fat is a complete unit. Don't need blocks and special cables or any of that.
What I've been wanting most is a USB C-PD mod for the PS2 FAT but theres not really any way to do it without step up/step down or a middleman board
Interesting to see someone else taking the ps2 setup on. I've been working on mine on and off for 2 or so years now with a variety of issues.
Mainly the issue is that it tends to kill mechanical HDD's (I've used a 3.5" 7200rpm ide drive and a 2.5" 7200rpm hybrid sata drive) Currently I'm trying with a Samsung QVO SSD but haven't got as far as loading opl and the games again yet.
I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to video out so won't go beyond the component out that the systems was designed for use with although the fan intrigues me.
I assume you're using FreeHD Boot, are you loading ps1 games via pop starter? I'm eager for someone to work out how to leverage the ps1 internals so the system can be properly unlocked.
You might need to keep the Drive MBR instead of GPT format, and only up to 2TBs. Think after 2TBs under MBR you may have to build multiple partitions... its a limit of MBR and FAT32/16 partitioning. Don't know if the HDLoader support ExFAT/NTFS, haven't been keeping up... but I would assume that you may be limited to MBR (Possibly), don't know if the swap from the IDE to the SATA board gives you ample support to more modern partitioning formats and/or speeds... I think Speeds, last time I explored were around the same SATA1&2 speeds.
Let me know if you're still having these issues, I haven't explored MC Freeboot and the PS2 in such a while, but with the RetroGem chip I just might come back around to it... also the Memory Card PRO2 by 8bitmods.
@Kanecobond thanks.
I'd tried mecahnical drives both using sata and ide and they were both killed both were 7200 and I'mconvinced that the seeks when running games pushed the needle off the platter.
Both drives were partitioned in mbr. I'm pretty sure gpt isn't compatible at all.
I've not fully completed my latest build with the sata ssd (hopefully get that done over this festive period 😀).
As for the playstation 2's actual speed on data transfer I'm sure this will be choked at ide due to the supported interface at the time. It may squeeze sata 1 but that's not really an issue as it'll still outperform optical media and drive speed of that era.
The cord not reaching the couch is partly why I still now play 5 feet from the screen in a chair
The SSD also runs cooler, so it's just better in general. That's the beauty of SATA SSDs.
You should be using a DualShock 3 for the pressure sensitive buttons.
He is using the DS4, which is better
And i just picked up a used 30001 for $20. It boots games right up (no fussing like with an old worn out optical drives like to do). I do plan on getting an old network adapter and converting it to SATA as i do have a 2TB 2.5" SSD sitting around, and putting all my games onto the SSD to save what life the optical drive does have.
Gamepad is one of the more overlooked aspect that make a game feel old or obsolete. I buyed that same 8Bit adapter last month and it feel so much BETTER to use my DualShock 4 with PS2 games.
Also that GEM looks like way to much trouble, isn't better to just use a line duplicater from the Component/RGB cable, seems like a same result but easier solution to me... In my case i have been thinking on get a old CRT, but i not sure.
Wait, does the 8bitdo adapter support the pressure sensitive buttons? Do those work with a PS4 controller? Because I know for a fact that the new Retro Fighters PlayStation controller has pressure sensitive buttons. So unless the PS4 controller and the 8bitdo adapter support that functionality, then you will be missing out on a key feature when it comes to playing racing games and shooting games like Metal Gear Solid 2.
I'm just about to resurrect my Slim. Just trying to figure out the HDMI thing. Looking at the Rad2x as I'm located in the UK now and it seems quite straightforward (but my Slim is NTSC since I lived in that region all my life until now).
Didn't know about the 8Bitdo adapter, thanks. Was thinking of getting a PS4 controller to use with my Xperia phone, but being able to use it with PS2 is even better, as I'll get more use out of it.
rad2x is horrible. Get good quality component cables (either first party or HD Retrovision or decent third party ones) and a portta component to HDMI scaler. Really good quality for the amount of money you're paying which won't be much compared to other options.
Very cool project , but hard to justify when I have a steam deck that emulates ps2 games at 3x resolution and works flawlessly even on a tv !!
This. 😎👍
Even my Galaxy S23 Ultra offers a better experience for PS2 emulation vs the native PS2 hardware.
I agree have a steam deck myself amazing resolutions but how accurate is the emulation? any tearing or glitching? I think that’s only thing with real hardware is 100% true.
God i love these videos
Me too this is the way
Very nice! Im very jealous!
My PS2 has OPL and plays PS1 and 2 games off a 500 GB SSD (used to have less moving parts than a mechanical drive)
The nerd in me loves this kind of stuff. But in reality, I would have trouble actually doing any of these mods.
These mods are really freaking cool, but I'm just going to save up for that retrotink thing lol
Hey Jon, how come you don't post links to the products you used for this mod?
I always wanted a backwards compatible ps3 to play my ps2 games on. How does a modified ps2 compare to one? Im sure the ps2 mods probably produce a better image, but how big of a gap is it?
Can you tell us more about your Hexagon shaped lights behind you ? Do they plug togheter ot are they all indepnednant ?
I wanted to see you install the flex cable, it would be nice to see you actually installing this HDMI mod.
I've been trying to get mine working for a while. I'm not what's going on but I got it to boot FHDB from an SD, got a new laser installed, the laser kernal installed, and now I have a fuzzy picture, and black screen issues.
My all time favorite system, but man, do you sleep?😅
I've been thinking of getting a ps2 for the first time lately, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I did get an original xbox recently, though.
😎 Tech Wave 🌊
haven't seen a PS2 in years
You fuckin blind bro?
no matter how much scaling you do, nothing beats ps2 + crt (pvm or consumer tv)
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't having higher refresh rate OLED displays (like let's say 240Hz/360Hz) come somewhat close to the motion performance that CRT's offer?
I remember sitting on the floor with multitaps playing 6 player wrestling
How good is the fan on cooling the system compared to the new one? 🤔
In a lot of ways, classic gaming is the future. when I think about my gaming lately, I find that I lean more toward older gen gaming.
That’s so cool I wonder if you could put a ssd in any Nintendo consoles
It's Science!!
My only concern is the need soldering chip legs. I have nerve trembling problems and always end up bridging the chip legs. 😢
Does the 8bitdo adapter take analog trigger inputs and translate them into pressure sensitive? Can't imagine playing GT4 without them.
Definitely should find a nice new glossy case👌🏼
G E T A T R I N I T R O N
were you playing the arcade version of tekken 5? noticed that insert coin in the gameplay.
Great video, I just wish I had the soldering skills to do it.
It's never too late to learn a new skill.
And i U use s retrotink aproach, you maintain the ahbility to plug into vrt if u want to or if u find a crt for light guns or just cvhange mind about getitng crt
RGB out and a CRT fits so much better with the PS2
The buzz lightyear of ps2's
My pastor was just talking about being a kid and wanting a PlayStation for Christmas. That made me think of how bad I want a PS2 again.
Have you done the ultimate ps3 (1st model) for backwards compatibility
I still think using an SD card and a tiny converter chip is a better solution. The SSD isn’t going to increase speed because the network adapter has limited bandwidth. SD card is just easier to set up, install, and swap.
Is there any way to get a system with every PS2 game on it? Any modified system? I have all systems up to ps1
The Brook PS2 Adaptor is the only one that supports switching between Analogue and Digital, but its double the price of the 8bitdo...
That's my second choice, before a Blueretro Adaptor.
Spawnwave which part i can get a ghost shell to buy for the ps2 fat
Hey bro! Is there PS2 games suggestions to share with us?
I was fucking finally able to run FunTuna on the unhackable last model of the PS2 Slim so I’m happy to load games from external hard drives. :)
What would be your recommendation for an OLED TV at a decent price.
Id buy this if someone was selling them! Loved the ps2 era
all this stuff is so cool but as a general person most people wont have time or money to do all this compared to just emulation that gives you a better picture.
In order to maintain the internal power supply and still be able to install a retrogem, a SCPH-5000X PSU is required.
So if I upgraded the power supply I could install the Retrogem on my 30001?
@@adamantium1983 according to the official install instructions, yes
Thank you. Their site didn’t state that
@adamantium1983 actually it does, see below as it it copied from their compatibility list.
Sony Playstation 2
Fat Models
GH-019 (SCPH-3900X) *Requires RePS2 PSU or (SCPH-5000X PSU + SCPH-5000X Metal Shield).
GH-022 (SCPH-3900X) *Requires RePS2 PSU or (SCPH-5000X PSU + SCPH-5000X Metal Shield).
GH-023 (SCPH-5000X)
GH-026 (SCPH-5000X)
I don’t have a 3900x I have a 3000x. I did get into their discord Q&A and it is something they are working on.
The true ultimate ps2 would be all this, but in the slim model!
Why don't you use something like T-cut or some othe kind of scratch remover to buff out those scratches to the case.
PS2 when the guys are hanging out. GameCube when the guys and girls are hanging out, so a GC build like this please.
Those PS2 wall carry stories don't replace
I’m 43 and I still sit in the floor while playing Xbox series and ps5. I spent the first 20+ years of my life sitting in the floor so it’s weird for me to sit across the room on the couch
I've had the memory card sd card reader on my ps2 slim for about a year but the game compatibility is a bit of a bummer. Might have to set up my fat ps2 with a hdd