How to build your own MTL coil in minutes & save you money in the long run.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- When I noticed a few simple coil making tools and a 26G Kanthal round-wire in my Innokin Ares V2 accessories bag, I experimented with building my own MTL coils for the first time in this video and the result was, in my opinion successful!! Perhaps not so perfect & professional looking as the ones you buy pre-made but the flavour from the 26G Kanthal round-wire I used in this video vaping a good quality NET is very satisfying indeed, added satisfaction is the knowledge that it will cost me pennies to change a coil as often as I want.
If you have advice & tips please leave a comment
A very well presented video. Everything is explained clearly.
A pleasure to find someone who does not rush things and takes the time to explain everything. Well done.
Vin in Preston, Lancashire, England. Aged 71.
Thank you Vin. I appreciate your kind words. Wishing you long & healthy years😊
I totally agree with you. Round wire produce quiet satisfactory flavour. Your channel is one of the best tbh specially when it comes to MTLs. Thanks
Thank you Mustafa.
Totally agree, lately isuch enjoy more Natural Extracted Tobacco on MTL offcourse, this channel is a must! My setups atm are, aspire mixx with pioneer rta, kayfun lite 2019 and kayfun prime!
Massimo Unknown thanks.your current setup is perfect
This is Very helpful and encouraging video for many,especially this days.
The reason for the ohm changes is the heat.
When a metal wire heat the resistance will go up a bit depend of the type of the metal you use,some metal as SS more some less.
After it get cold the resistance return back to what it was reading when the coil was cold.
When the same amount of wraps produce a different reading on different RTAs/RBAs it’s because the different post design produces a different total length of the wire by dictating shorter coil legs or longer legs or more spaces or less spaces of the wraps.
As already mentioned this behaviour and outcomes don’t make difference regarding the use of VW or VV mod.
While in the beginning both Clapton and round simple wire can produce the taste
level, after a use of few hours or a day (depending on the amount of vaping) the Clapton wire will keep on going bright taste for few more tanks while the round wire will in most cases will get more muted in relate to the way of use.
Thank you Isac for you detailed & useful comment.
Kanthal A1 26 ga...will bring you in satisfaction...always...Drag4...Alberich II...perfect!!!
Thanks Martin 👍
Finnaly uve took a step in builduing youre on coils.in 7 years of vaping my first year and a half was quite annoying because of prea made coils.after that i moved to handmade coils.when i was vaping direct lung i used to make my dual and triple fused claptons.andi got bored .huge amounts of clouds.i was able to make me invisible with only one cloud😁.now for 2 yers im in mtl realm again.in my oppinion u dont need claptons or fused claptons for mtl.they tend to toast the flavour.the trick is to have the outside wire very thin.(0.08)that will creat crevases for liquid and the flavour would be outstanding.that is my opinion.for mtl if u want flavour and th best wire for me is 26 awg ka1 6 wraps on 2.5.if i want a litle more flavour i go with 28 awg ss316l 7 wraps on 2.5.both vaping on 18 watts
Thanks Emanuel very useful tips will definitely try them.
With your deliberate ,easy to follow guide ,I have an immensely enhanced MTL experience.
MaBuhay ka!
Thanks Roberto. I had to translate your comment ending so I will return with Salamat😊
I really feel sad when you are bothered about the length of your videos, my daily routine in the early mornings is to watch your reviews/new uploads and i'm having a blast watching your videos, please do not be concerned about making your videos longer since I and i'm sure other subscribers would agree that we do in fact enjoy your company :)
Appreciate your comment Yousif.
Excellent l have some wire on order I really enjoy tinkering with stuff so making my own coils is a whole new hobby who knows where I'll end up cheers net 👍
Good gf269 I am sure you will make excellent coils in no time. The advantage of course is the low cost involved still produce excellent flavour.
Superb video showing just how easy coil building can be, thank you for taking the time to do this 😊💨
Pleasure Mark. I assume you or Jay have come up with hole in the tin idea. Brilliant in its simplicity.
Nice job on first time building! Been wrapping my own coils for years and it only gets easier!
One tip I’ll share from my routine: the hand that wraps the coil, instead of grabbing the wire, try pressing the wire into the bit (like you would apply tape to a pencil)
Thanks for the tip KandD yes I do that now
Thank you very much been making my own four a few months now had to practice but got it now thank you very much for your help in making coils the easiest way 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Francis
Starting making my own coils awhile ago..
Saves so much money
Well done mate... 👍🇦🇺✌
Thanks Vape Trafic
Mark, from NV came up with that brilliant idea of just putting a small hole in the tin. Simple but effective the tins are ideal for it I remember years ago we used to use beadalon straps around our spools they also had a small hole in them in fact I still use them when making mtl fused Clapton or mtl aliens. I was hoping you would have answered my comment on your white note video not to worry I totally understand you can’t answer every comment. I watch all your videos even this one and I’ve been vaping 10 years and building 8 of those 10y I try support the channel by watching every video even if I know all about the product or like this can build. Thank you Nathan, for all your content 👍🏻
I just realised this is a old video I must have missed it came up in my suggestion’s so thought why not watch 😊
Thanks Polo65. I did reply to you comment on the white note I do try to reply to everyone’s comment. The way I see it if someone took their time to post a comment I can take my time to reply😊
Great video, I came to the same conclusion, now 26g. 4-6 wraps and it works fine
Thanks Mark
If you've determined that Clapton coils have slightly better flavor, you can buy spools of Clapton wire and still wrap your own coils with it. It's still considerally cheaper than pre made coils. I also enjoy the Clapton crackle. It helps me to determine if my wicking and power are where I want them to be.
Yes Chris i know but i like naturevape 1.0ohm Core Clapton coils and i maintain them to work well for at least 4-6 weeks so it works out fairly cheap. I love the Clapton crackle as well😊
Allow me to present my opinion: If you use a round coil, for example, 27 ga on 7 turns, and a complex coil, for example, alien 2×30/40 or fused 2×30/40, at first you will feel that the flavor is similar and only the sound will differentiate with you, but after a while, in the first case, you will feel The flavor declines very quickly, but in the second case, the flavor decline will be very slow, and therefore in the first case you will have to change the cotton much more quickly than in the second case. In my opinion, the best coil for MTL is Alien 2×30/40. Secondly, fused clapton. As for round wire, I never use it. On the other hand, making an Allen coil may be a little difficult and requires training, but making a fused clapton coil is very easy. You can make 30 coils in half an hour, enough to last you a year with very simple tools. Also, the alien or fused coil may only be replaced every month or a month and a half, but as for the round wire, you have to change it every week. Thank you.
Thank you Said for your detailed coil building method I am sure it will be beneficial to many👍 As for me to be honest I prefer the easy way and I buy them nowadays ready made from naturevape mainly the Core Clapton 1.0ohm Ni80 28+38ga 2.5mm ID and as of late in new Alien MTL 0.8ohm 32x3/38ga Ni80 2.5mm ID. I am very happy with those two coil and I hardly build my own coils anymore.
@@netvaper is this true in your experience that you don't need to rewick and clean up the coil as often with these alien coils?
Hi Mr NET on your recommendation I bought the ARES V2 great tank an flavour.An the tools make a lot easier.Keep up the great work.
That is excellent happy you like it John.
I have a few Mtl Rtas and I find the Vandy vape super find mtl clapton works well for me ..ive tried SS,N80,Kanthal I just never got much flavor at 15 -18w and I make my own juices and find those low watt devices just needs a few more percentages in flavor and was much better which makes sense..tbose disposables are only about 7w n full of flavor because their usually 1 straight fruit or fruit ice and they use about 25% flavoring! But at 7w you'd need a lot more flavoring I suppose..i just grabbed the Arbitor Solo which is a Restricted Dtl ( in between mtl and dtl) and I find a .6 or .4ohm coil n that extra Lil airflow I get a bit more flavor than my bezerker or Ares 2 but great video! I had to figure all this out over time but this gets right to it 👍 Great job and explanation
@Michael Card. I do enjoy reading other vapers personal experience & useful feedback so thanks for that.
@@netvaper absolutely 😃
For me the flavor is better with round wire than with complex coils for mtl. I use ni80 26ga 6-7 wraps at 2.5mm. Comes around 0.65-0.73 ohm. Very nice vape at in the 15-18w range. I'm using pioneer with mirage.
Yes your coil build is very much like my preference except I use Kanthal I am ordering NI80 wire as well. Enjoy
something about this dude is very cool and chill
😊thanks Chris.
it's the chill that is cool about this dude, you're right :D
hi, great review as always. the coils ohms will fluctuate when you heat them up,then settle down again when the coil cools, also put a small strong magnet (rare earth magnets from amazon) on the pivot point of your clippers as this will catch the cut off legs when you cut them, just a wee tip.
Thanks bootyern thanks for the magnet tip,yes my wife is constantly moaning about cuttings flying about😄
@@netvaper it will only work with Kanthal wire
Yes indeed.
Nice video dude as always... I find myself watching a lot of your videos recently
Thanks Sean
Just try 28G KA1, 2,5mm, 5 wraps or 2mm, 6 wraps and give you ~1ohm. Steam-engine web site has a lot of informations for coiling(not only) and is like a 'swiss knife' for vaping...
Thanks for the info Vapopo. Will try it.
@@netvaper i hope your well.I tried 28G KA1i made 4 an i a happy to say great good flavor 4 coils i got 3 at 1.03 an 1 at .98.Vapopo thank you for the info.
@@1919micky Great John perfect MTL coil.
Thank you just what I was looking for!!
Wise words. Im relatively new to vaping but I work with materials. A homemade coil made from kanthol, with a cotton wick, is as safe as it can possible get. Much more healthy than buying some random coils on the internet that might be Chinese knock offs. (No offence to the people of China, absolute offence to the PRC government)
@TheWtfnonamez. Indeed, that is why I only recommend buying pre-made coils from a local vendor who you know is trustworthy.
I am so glad that I came across the video Nathan, I got my first RDTA on Sunday, I picked it up from the Vape guy at the local boot market for a tenner, in box etc, new. I have never wicked before, I had to order some cotton from Amazon. I was nervous as I don't have many tools I can use,, just some scissors, and it was a success. As I have probably said before, this is a wonderful hobby. And this is going to be my next step, making my own coils. I like the idea of being able to make a MTL coil but what do I need for a low ohm DTL coil as I love dtl as this make my NET taste awesome.
Hi Chris thanks for your feedback. Indeed building a deck & coiling is rewarding and money saving hobby. I am sure in no time you would be an expert😊 trial & error is the best way to learn any new skill including vaping. Enjoy it all & most importantly enjoy your vaping experience to the full.
@@netvaper I do love this hobby, its so interesting
Hi Net Vaper, what a excellent tutorial on how to make your own coils. I have been using pre- made mtl coils from naturevape / vandy vape. I will have to order some wire & try for myself.
Big 👍👍👍💙🌈💨💨💨
Thanks Simon you will be pleasantly surprised how easy it is the way I was and read the comments for some useful tips. Obviously you can carry on using your favourite pre-made coil just you should have another option if needed.
@@netvaper Hi Net Vaper, thanks for your reply. I know you like your bargains
BCL have a offer on that runs out at 6pm tonight. If you spend £19.98 you get a free 100ml bottle of St James Perique Net Tobacco. Thought you would like to know. 😃👍
👍Thanks Simon
Very helpful, thank you sir, I must give it a try soon 🙂
Thanks Blackie
29:40 best mtl coil
If you say so michael 😊
I agree with you
Last time I used round wire the flavor didn't even came out. But the problem was actually my false wicking method. Been using Ni80 alien coils lately, now I want to try it again with round wire.
Thank you Aditya for your comment. The alien coils are good but for tobacco liquids round wire will do fine as well.
My friend, you only have to care about the 1 ohm if you're using an unregulated mod - so you have around 16W with the fixed battery voltage around 4V (P = V^2 / R). There's where this "1 ohm myth" came from.
For regulated mods, you just have to care about the size of the coil (no. of wraps, width oh the wire). For any resistance, the regulated mod will "regulate" the voltage so you have the watts (heat) you select.
Hope it helps.
Vape on.
Thank you Marcelo for the useful info.
Excellent effort on your first attempt! Im new to using RTA tanks , been using stock coils for too long ... When do you know when its time to recoil? Is it the same as stock coils where you experience the burnt taste? Just started watching your videos and noticed you go into great detail on all of them! Good stuff 👌👍
Stock coils emit a burnt flavour when gone. With RTA coils it is a bit different. Mainly when you notice a considerable reduction in flavour (you don’t really experience burnt flavour only when the cotton is dry) even after re wicking or when you notice the wire of coil has turned to a greenish gray colour or if you notice dark coloured streaks of liquid is contaminating the tank. It is time to change your coil. If you clean your coil every time you change cotton it should normally last for 4-6 weeks
Nice job I love it ❤
I'm glad you like it
Hi Mr N E T i hope you are well.Geat review an walk through well done as always i in joyed it look for ward to your next reviews.
Thanks John
Hi again N E T Vaper wear did you get the tool to make spaced coils please.
It was part of the accessories bundle with the innokin ares V2 rta but I assume you can buy these coil build rods on any vape vendor online
@@netvaper Thank you for you help an time to reply
Try ni80 26 gauge 6 wraps spaced should be 0.6 at 11 watts which I enjoy.
Thanks JJ I would want near a 1.0 ohm so I assume a 7-8 rap will achieve that
@@netvaper give it a shot you might like it. Let me know how you go if you decide to try it out
Will do JJ
28G Ni80 vapes excellent too
Indeed
Simplicity always wins.
I'm using the coils that came with ares 2 it is good ,but do you think it is better if I buy new kanthal wire
Thank you for this video
No Montadhar i just did my own for experimenting only but a a fused clapton or even core clapton coil at around 1.0ohm might improve the flavour on some flavours but for straight forward tobacco MTL vaping simple kanthal round wire is perfect.
@@netvaper Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me.
Good stuff. Only I prefer Phil Busardo's way of doing spaced coils to Dimitris. Now I don't have to cringe watching you use pre-built coils anymore. Clapton wire is nearly as easy to wrap.
Thanks Adrian I see your point in regards to Phil method the result is a semi spaced coil. The core clapton Pre- made coils are very good especially with net’s
I'm getting Brunhilde MTL ,, bcz it gives real MTL vape for tobacco liquids & offcorse bcz it's really simple to build/try new liquids. I just have a q when i make my own coils whit KA 1 ( Super fine MTL superfused Clapton Wire by VandyVape) will thst be ok it is I think 25 ( 5 wraps 1Ohm ) . I did whit SS but now I want to try Kanthal
I assume you mean 1.0ohm if so it is Perfect coil for MTL. Enjoy your Brunhilde
Could you please sort your own mtl rta tanks according to favour
Specially tobacco e liquid
You gave me an idea for another topic to review so keep an eye on the channel I will try and address your request Hesham.
im in indonesia use temco khantal 27awg 6wrap
Thanks arief for your feedback
Man those grub screws are nice and big compared to my innokin lol..i love the Ares 2 but what pain in the neck with those TINY screws n the wire also keeps popping out..my bezerker has a bit bigger but its the old one and airflow is just way too tight and has very little flavor.The Rba sectiction to my Geekvape boost is actually better than my innokin or bezerker flavorwise lol 😆
Thank you for your feedback Michael
Hi nicely done, juste curious of the wattage you use on this 1ohm coil please ?
@pedro miguel AFONSO. 16w
Which do your prefer, spaced coil or contact coil or is there much difference. I know no hot spots with spaced and I would assume better flavor with spaced but contact probably get hotter i would assume. Just curious on your thoughts
Guess I should've saved my questions till the end.....
@gortech I prefer contact coils as spaced coils can cause spit-back as the liquid vaporised between the coil’s wire causing the liquid to quarts upwards towards the mouthpiece with boiling hot liquid droplets. That hardly ever happens with a tight wired coil
Hi NET Vaper, do you notice more juice consumption with core claptons over round wire?
Yes Tamer reason being that more juice is vaporised due to the liquid trapped in the fused wire while round wire cannot hold juice on it’s surface and vaporises the juice that is on the cotton only
Is it better to have spaced coils or no space for flavor? Thanks in advance
No difference at all in flavour in MTL vaping on lower wattage. Also when spaced there is less of a chance of hot spots. Normally when using kanthal round wire they tend to be spaced and when using fused clapton they tend to be tighter it is all due to the ramp up time
Thank Grandpa...🙂
😊
You don't need to use something with a ceramic surface when you work with a spiral.m.? Watch the video at 18 min. 10 sec. ...? I just want to know, because I use it and maybe there is no need.
Perhaps you are right Jozef
Can i read ohm for my watt mod
without ohm meter
Or i don't have ohm meter🙂
If I understand your comment yes you can also check your ohms on a regulated mod
Long live mtk
😊
Mtl is dying in my country
What type of vaping is popular in your country Khairul
@@netvaper they all use pod systems
Although there is a place for pod kits as a starting point for smokers but so many have flooded the market so I can hear you!! I will review a few good pod/starter kits in the coming weeks but I have carefully selected those from an ever growing list.
This is like watching paint drynon a wall 😂 😴
😂 couldn’t stop laughing reading your comment and don’t blame you.😊 thankfully I buy my coils ready made
Sir, have u ever build your own coil using Ni80 on MTL build? How does it taste?
Not yet Ihsan but I am planning too as my pre-made NI80 core clapton & fused clapton are very good. I did try the SS fused clapton but I prefer the NI80.
@@netvaper thank you for sharing your experience sir!
hi
i use geekvape ni80 26g and my builds between 1 to 1.2 owm
i have a problem with the through hit .. some rare builds give me a very good strong hit like the normal cigs but the most builds come with no hit
( note that i use same wire and cotton all the time ) and it`s kind of unenjoyable vaping .. is there a secret of the through hit ??
please tell me how can i make a strong hit with the normal mtl macro coils
Well Abd throat hit depends mostly on the level of the PG , nicotine and drew not so much on the coil build. Some coils fire quicker and hotter like the fused claptons but that will only improve flavour & vaper but not throat hit. Can it be that some of your liquids have higher PG content or nicotine.
NET Vaper i use the same liquid with the same nic strength
I would list now 6 ways that I know how to increase throat hit. As follows.
1. Use a higher-nicotine juice. More nicotine equals more throat hit. Simple.
2. Choose a higher-PG blend: roughly 50/50 PG/VG mix is good, for a basic tank system you should aim for a bit more PG than that.
3. Increase the power or temperature: More power or a higher temperature will amplify your existing throat hit and add one of its own.
4. Go with a menthol juice: Menthol boosts throat hit, so if it’s a priority, try out some menthol flavours. Citrus blends can work too.
5. Decrease the airflow: Less airflow means a more concentrated, hotter vape, and that translates into a punchier throat hit.
6. Use a different wick: Cotton has a lot going for it, but if you really can’t get a good enough hit, try a hemp wick to give your throat hit more of a bite.
NET Vaper ok
Thank you very much Net vaper ☺️
You build ur coil in an hour and half and i only take 10 mins doing that
Well done Nader😊. It takes me minutes as well when not on camera trying to explain how to do it.
@@netvaper well done love u my friend and i learnt alot from u but when i felt that i am good in coiling myself watch u again and said what i just noticed the videoa mintues yesterday lool i feel crazy how i watch this video b4 from a to z .... keep going my friend all my respect to u ❤
I want to watch this but the lip smacking is too much for me.
I am what I am & it is your choice😊 shame you cannot overlook what ever bothers you as you can gain a lot of info & advice on this channel.