Physics 8.1.03a - The Inverse Square Law

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  • The nature of an inverse square law, and how it arises naturally as a property of three dimensional space. Newton understood geometrically that light dispersed according to an inverse square law and surmised, correctly, that gravitational force would be described in a similar manner. From the Physics course by Derek Owens.

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  • @Agirlswierdworld
    @Agirlswierdworld 8 лет назад +137

    my physics teacher refused to explain this, thank you

    • @நக்மாசெல்
      @நக்மாசெல் 4 года назад +6

      He studied physics for the sake of some external reasons. He cant understand the subject

    • @maxim1308
      @maxim1308 3 года назад +1

      @Johnny Street Sign it destroys what certainly?

    • @maxim1308
      @maxim1308 3 года назад +1

      @Johnny Street Sign respect that!

    • @jokerryt2503
      @jokerryt2503 3 года назад +1

      @Frederic Reeber dang! Took about 1 year but it finally worked and now I am jobless I thank Instapwn for helping me so much

  • @Jerryofberry
    @Jerryofberry 6 лет назад +8

    You explained this concept quite thoroughly. Im a senior student and was trying to understand as to why it was an inverse square relationship for the force of gravity. And not just an inverse relationship. This video explained it beautifully. Thank you so much!

  • @howardburrage3874
    @howardburrage3874 3 года назад +4

    I wish all youtube was like this. Straight forward explanation and demonstration. In fact, I wish the whole internet or life itself was like this. We could learn so much rather than constantly digging through all the bull.

  • @bobwaarjr
    @bobwaarjr 15 лет назад +9

    Great explanation. I've been looking for something like this to use in my college photography classes to show the relationship between light distance & exposure. This is it.
    Bravo!

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  15 лет назад +24

    For gravity, it is F = (G m1 m2) / r^2.
    For other inverse square relationships there are different equations, but they all have a similar form, that is, they all have a variable squared in the deonominator.

  • @cyndawu1940
    @cyndawu1940 6 лет назад +8

    Sir, you are a saviour. A 10/10 explanation with a cookie bonus, THANKS

  • @whyf9902
    @whyf9902 5 лет назад +7

    A video with an actual clear explanation. Great video

  • @Orixx4ever
    @Orixx4ever 12 лет назад +7

    I understood everything, loved this. God I wish I had a teacher like you !!

  • @noorhamdan1235
    @noorhamdan1235 5 лет назад +23

    You have a great way of explaining and it’s really entertaining 👏❤️

  • @crystinamarie1
    @crystinamarie1 8 лет назад +5

    Thank you for this video. Taking basic Astronomy and had trouble wrapping my head around this concept!

  • @utuber7781
    @utuber7781 6 лет назад +7

    THANK YOU! Perfect explanation that I have wondered about since High School and I'm 40!

  • @D4rrag00nXD
    @D4rrag00nXD 3 года назад +7

    Also known to Michael Reeves as "Light get more dim, when it more farther away" 🤣

  • @nivasraj5599
    @nivasraj5599 5 лет назад +43

    I'm watching this 10 years later 🙃

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  5 лет назад +14

      And the concepts are still true! That's one of the things I like about physics.

    • @أحمد-ف9ل6ق
      @أحمد-ف9ل6ق 5 лет назад +5

      Wow you still reply even after 10 years.

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  5 лет назад +8

      @@أحمد-ف9ل6ق And I hope to still be here 10 years from now, or more.

    • @nivasraj5599
      @nivasraj5599 5 лет назад +2

      @@derekowens how old are you?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  5 лет назад +4

      @@nivasraj5599 I was born in 1966.

  • @HeyItsKora
    @HeyItsKora 6 лет назад +1

    I love how this is analogous to graph transformation. It creates a new way to view graph transforms

  • @bludoggy71
    @bludoggy71 9 лет назад +13

    Thank you sir, very clear & to the point.

  • @theresacoles7104
    @theresacoles7104 3 года назад +1

    11 years later and it’s still true. Thank you for making this video this makes learning physics online so much easier

  • @mbatson13
    @mbatson13 4 года назад +1

    Thank you!! I knew I could understand it but I’ve not had it explained so clearly before.

  • @BrbWinning
    @BrbWinning 13 лет назад +1

    This video has given me such a better understanding of the entire concept. Thankyou very much!!!

  • @RAJEO1
    @RAJEO1 11 лет назад +1

    Awesome, thank you for your help. Videos like this, from people like you, are an enormous help to us students. I`m sending you a good karma payment.

  • @deanrose2384
    @deanrose2384 8 лет назад +25

    The first time I watched this I didn't realise my speakers were turned off, I just thought it was a visual only video. It was excrutiating, and a bit baffling, except that I could see the geometry at play. Made much more sense with the audio on though hahaha. Duh

    • @rayo3117
      @rayo3117 5 лет назад

      Thats creepy to imagine idk why xD a bit eerie

  • @wrinkle1784
    @wrinkle1784 2 месяца назад +1

    Here after more than 14 years and will take this knowledge with me till the day my cognitive abilities leave me .

  • @jojojawjaw
    @jojojawjaw 8 лет назад +3

    What a great explanation! .. you sir are awesome .. thanks.

  • @justderp5713
    @justderp5713 3 года назад +1

    Suprisingly simple concept for such a complex name

  • @gabeholmes1
    @gabeholmes1 10 лет назад +23

    Man i am in sixth grade and i understood this you are a great teacher

    • @dannyholley
      @dannyholley 9 лет назад +11

      ***** Wow, well aren't you a wet blanket...

    • @SogMosee
      @SogMosee 8 лет назад +1

      +Gabe Holmes how is 7th grade?

    • @Agirlswierdworld
      @Agirlswierdworld 8 лет назад +6

      how's 8th grade?

    • @hanna630
      @hanna630 6 лет назад

      how is highschool?

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  12 лет назад

    @Akileze Yes, Coulomb's Law is also an example of an inverse square law. The equations for electric charge have many similarities to the equations for gravity.

  • @sinerntous6433
    @sinerntous6433 2 месяца назад +1

    Knowledge is awesome.

  • @galacticalliance4801
    @galacticalliance4801 3 года назад

    oh man thank you, this explanation is amazing.

  • @janedoe5229
    @janedoe5229 3 года назад

    Thanks. I am reading about Newton for my own pleasure, and I am up to the point where he and Hooke argue about whether Newton plagiarizes Hookes "inverse squares" theory. Thank you for telling me what they were arguing about.

  • @nouvchanrothana6492
    @nouvchanrothana6492 4 года назад

    Thank you very much for your explanation.

  • @fandangofandango2022
    @fandangofandango2022 4 года назад +1

    Very Good Teacher.

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  13 лет назад

    @metalupyourass9 Yes, I think you have the right idea. At 3 meters, you have 1/4 the light intensity that you have at 1.5 meters. Increasing the distance by a factor of 2 will cut the intensity to 1/4. And yes, if you start at 1 meter, then the squares you are imagining are smaller than if you start at 1.5 meters. At 3m, you will have 1/9 the light that you have at 1m, and 1/4 the light you have at 1.5m.

  • @Akileze
    @Akileze 12 лет назад

    @derekowens Thank you for your time sir and good sailing/safe passage!

  • @davesims7917
    @davesims7917 4 года назад +1

    Based on the inverse square law wouldn’t the moon be so incredibly bright where it would be impossible to actually get anywhere remotely close to it based on what they say the distance is?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  4 года назад

      I think there are two things to consider here: The inverse square law assumes the light comes from a point source, which would be the center point. When you are far away from the moon, this assumption is valid. When you are close to the moon, it is much less like a single point. Second, the light is reflected off the surface. When you are close to the moon, you are only seeing a small portion of that surface.

  • @wideasspenguin2032
    @wideasspenguin2032 4 года назад +7

    My class have to watch this video because our teacher can't explain it because of CORONA VIRUS

  • @nimam7986
    @nimam7986 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the demonstration.

  • @Reaction1s
    @Reaction1s 3 года назад

    1. Why did the lines of symmetry and rotation break as z increased?
    2. Why did you use a rectangle which has an additional inverted symmetry with 4 rotations?
    3. Why not start with a circle or triangle, which both have one symmety and infinite or zero rotations, respectively, that add complexity but are ignorable?
    4. Why, at 3dz, did the expansion of 1 to 4, not go to 16?
    Edit: two inversions for a sheet. 0 or 1 for rotations.
    Edit 2: the proposed 4 symmetries for squares, should really only be two because, rotation does the remainder; I.e. a rotation for every symmetry. So, 1/8th gets closer to the third pinch point.

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  11 лет назад +38

    Keep trying. You can learn to like it. Kind of like coffee.

    • @naveensundar4765
      @naveensundar4765 4 года назад +1

      May I know to which comment are you responding this to ?

    • @aquaexnar3093
      @aquaexnar3093 4 года назад

      @@naveensundar4765 necroooooooo

    • @gonzilo436
      @gonzilo436 4 года назад

      @@aquaexnar3093 not really a thing in yt

    • @aquaexnar3093
      @aquaexnar3093 4 года назад

      @@gonzilo436 bro a necro is a necro, no matter where it is. dont respond to a 7 year old post

    • @Hippo464
      @Hippo464 3 года назад

      How does this work in space?

  • @misskikixxxx
    @misskikixxxx 7 лет назад

    This was great thank you :) explained things very nicely

  • @astroroadshow
    @astroroadshow 4 года назад

    Just a minor addition... It was Robert Hooke that mentioned to Newton about Inverse Square Law application to Gravity. Newton never gave him the credit due to a previous conflict regarding the origin of colour.

  • @SumitPrasaduniverse
    @SumitPrasaduniverse Год назад

    Excellent explanation 👌

  • @zone47
    @zone47 5 лет назад

    Awesome, it totally makes sense! Thanks.

  • @sahajshukla
    @sahajshukla 11 лет назад +1

    i just wanted to know the inverse square law applicable for gravity u r a born teacher thanxxx for helping me out

  • @safin3389
    @safin3389 4 года назад

    Thanks for the lesson

  • @highgatehandyman6479
    @highgatehandyman6479 2 года назад

    Excellent video

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 3 года назад

    Excellent explanation. Teach me calculus.

  • @shesthedevilsgod6793
    @shesthedevilsgod6793 5 лет назад

    So the light would at some point become invisible to the naked eye but would never petter out and go on forever? So essentially in space time nothing ever really dies. It just becomes invisible or inaudible. Therefor our actions go on forever. If you were to able to move into the 5th dimension you would be a able to experience not only the event of the light going out into space but also all possible events of the light going out into space. If you were in the 4th dimension you would be able to see the light at every point in space/time simultaneously as one event. InnerSteller was a great physics lession for us non academics

  • @jamhopsey
    @jamhopsey 3 года назад +4

    Light get more dim when more farther away

    • @pipony8939
      @pipony8939 3 года назад +1

      Don't understand it, how is the light gets more dim if it's supposed to light

  • @wiccanXexodus
    @wiccanXexodus 13 лет назад

    @bomberfun1 you would have to take into account that light is absorbed and reflected off the air particles.

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  15 лет назад

    Yes, I believe they do. Anything that propagates in three dimensions should follow an inverse square law.

  • @pavipavisumai5337
    @pavipavisumai5337 3 года назад

    Thank you so much sir..

  • @derekowens
    @derekowens  12 лет назад

    @Akileze I don't work in this area, although it is certainly fascinating. I mainly teach physics and math. I've heard some chatter about these ideas lately. I don't know enough to comment on it intelligently, but it is certainly very interesting.

  • @stevemt3238
    @stevemt3238 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you. Is the inverse square law also valid for communication/radio signals over vast distances in a vacuum? What remains of a radio signal after it traveling 240,000 miles to the moon?... or 34M miles from the earth to mars?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  6 лет назад

      Yes, that's correct. The strength of the signal decreases over distance according to an inverse square law. A dish antenna can focus the signal and can compensate for that, sometimes very effectively, but if the signal is propagating from a point source, through 3 dimensional space, then the inverse square law should apply.

  • @ikakhmaladze200
    @ikakhmaladze200 11 лет назад

    nice, simple, interesting
    truly a great job

  • @kirkusarelius3365
    @kirkusarelius3365 Год назад

    TY for the visual. For those of us that are less math inclined, how much less would a light source be for something 237,000 miles away like the moon please?

  • @stephendean2896
    @stephendean2896 5 лет назад

    Great job
    this video helped me a lot

  • @presbarkeep
    @presbarkeep 15 лет назад

    awesome... good job, good video. easy to understand.
    do sound waves follow the inverse square law too?

  • @softservegirl
    @softservegirl 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, I’m using this for large format photography ratios of reciprocity exposure. This was awesome.

  • @usd25674
    @usd25674 6 лет назад +1

    Good explanation of light, just know gravity has never been proven.

  • @fireonstars847
    @fireonstars847 4 года назад +1

    Watching this during pandemic

  • @doctari1061
    @doctari1061 Месяц назад

    Good explanation

  • @ketilsin
    @ketilsin 14 лет назад

    The sum of the light hitting the 3x3 screen will be the same as the sum of the light hitting the original 1x1 screen.
    This must mean that each square in the 3x3 screen gets only 1/9th of the light.
    Since each small square will be less bright the whole screen must appear less bright.

  • @melaniemartinez6805
    @melaniemartinez6805 3 года назад

    Thank you!!

  • @josephhurdman5588
    @josephhurdman5588 3 года назад

    Does the Inverse Square Law explain the Fermi Paradox? Radio waves are ballistic, too...

  • @dannymunoz8027
    @dannymunoz8027 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the refresher

  • @richtaylor6039
    @richtaylor6039 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @sinerntous4665
    @sinerntous4665 3 года назад

    Mathematically equated F=GMm/d2 Cipher. DECIPHER F, FORCE G,GRAVITY MM,TWO MASSES D2,DISTANCE. DECODE F,FREE G,GOD MM,MASON D2,DEVIL. UNIVERSE LAW

  • @josephhurdman5588
    @josephhurdman5588 3 года назад

    Does this explain the Fermi Paradox? Other people are "out there", but their radio signals are too faint to hear by the time they reach Earth-based radio telescopes...

  • @captsavage3049
    @captsavage3049 4 года назад

    Thank you. Astronomy homework solved!

  • @srjcdistanceeducation1799
    @srjcdistanceeducation1799 6 лет назад

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  • @PoweredMinecart
    @PoweredMinecart 12 лет назад

    Please tell me if i'm correct or not, but the equation would be...
    Area Units = Units of Length Away^2

  • @wattheshet
    @wattheshet 7 лет назад +1

    Huh no math required awesome. Finally understand this inversed square law. Really hate mathematicians naming convention. Makes it more complicated/.

  • @fcrick6967
    @fcrick6967 3 года назад

    what about laser beams which are minimally divergent or parallel rays? ...just a thought

  • @rahuldeofitness7368
    @rahuldeofitness7368 2 года назад

    My question is that, E=lm/m2.but. E=I(luminous insity)/m2 according to laws of illumination.please clear my doubt

  • @fihannijer1520
    @fihannijer1520 9 лет назад

    Great video

  • @arpeggio8061
    @arpeggio8061 5 лет назад

    As absurd as it sounds. Could another analogy be if a flashlight were to be powering the "light" with the Sun's UV ray somehow. Meaning that basically the flashlight contains the actual Sun. The distance of it after expanding towards the screens could be thought as Solar panels. As the closest one would most likely get the most energy and as it extends the energy decreases?

  • @mcculloughdakota
    @mcculloughdakota 3 года назад

    I understand this concept as a proportion of brightness to distance in regard to diffused reflected light but am struggling to understand how to apply it to direct reflected light since in this scenario brightness is constant. With direct reflection wouldn't it be a proportion of distance to surface area that the light fills?

  • @baden300
    @baden300 13 лет назад

    thanks, really helped.

  • @Akileze
    @Akileze 12 лет назад

    @derekowens Do you do any work/research in the area of Particle Physics? There's some data from Cern and Gran Sasso claiming they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than light. This is a remarkable claim considering the difference is in the realm of 10^-9 on a result expected in the order of 10^-3. Nanoseconds of difference on a millisecond result is noise in my mind.
    Sorry to wander off topic but it's loosely related .. I think ;-)
    Thanks Again!

  • @eweisblue
    @eweisblue 2 года назад

    Why not Electromagnetic force ?

  • @ragemudhar4599
    @ragemudhar4599 4 года назад

    Thanku

  • @நக்மாசெல்
    @நக்மாசெல் 4 года назад +1

    Everytime I see an equation inversely proportional to r.square. I used to wonder what made them to assume this logic?. Why not cube?... Now only I understand.

  • @BlenderDumbass
    @BlenderDumbass 4 года назад +1

    It's funny how I heard the name, and I heard about the concept and thought they were unrelated for some reason.

  • @samuelhong4272
    @samuelhong4272 4 года назад

    how does this relate to coulombs constant?

  • @MasudRana-dd6wi
    @MasudRana-dd6wi 3 года назад

    So thanks

  • @seanappletree2570
    @seanappletree2570 5 лет назад

    I mean to say if I have a torch and point it at say grease proof paper at 3 mtrs away I will still get RADIATION expessing itself in a cone so a circle on the paper and HOW do we understand the formula for this....or is it squaring the circle?????

  • @emmamargason
    @emmamargason 3 года назад +1

    watching this bc i accidentally fell asleep during my zoom :)

  • @MrDieg999
    @MrDieg999 2 года назад

    So 1/distance ^ 2

  • @seanappletree2570
    @seanappletree2570 5 лет назад

    Q..... so please explain how we are meant to understand what happens say at 3m squared (9 squared meters) not sure which way round to say that? but how are those 9 squares meant to be distributed around an X and Y since potential mangetic and or electric has these values as it occupies 3D space.... cheers buddy

  • @hkdoms
    @hkdoms 2 года назад

    Ok so I’m struggling with this thinking about how we’re able to see stars. It doesn’t make sense to me

  • @dagamer5t3w57
    @dagamer5t3w57 3 года назад

    I never knew Half Life 2 scientist would teach me about physics

  • @vaishnavikalouni9574
    @vaishnavikalouni9574 6 лет назад

    great......

  • @avinavinash421
    @avinavinash421 2 года назад

    Our brain find depth precision of objects acting upon same programming I guess

  • @slysparkane808
    @slysparkane808 5 лет назад

    Great presentation. I have only 1 question. Would the Inverse Square law ever arrive at a 0 value. Meaning, given your illumination example, would there ever be a distance when, mathematically, the distant screen received 0 light?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  5 лет назад

      Mathematically, it would never get to zero, no matter how large the distance. In practice, at some distance the force would be too small to measure and at that point would probably be considered zero for practical purposes.

    • @slysparkane808
      @slysparkane808 5 лет назад

      @@derekowens thats what thought.. I just needed to hear it from someone who knows it better!! Thanks

  • @ChurchPreaches
    @ChurchPreaches 6 лет назад

    I understand that the inverse square law says if you double the distance between the light source and the screen, the screen receives a quarter of the the light, how does cutting the distance in half between the light source and the screen make the screen receive only double the light?
    Going from 1 to 2 meters, the screen receives a quarter of the light it received from 1 meter,
    But if you were to go 2 to 1, the screen receives only double the light that it had from 2 meters?
    The math in my head doesn't make sense, I don't know where I'm going wrong. Does anyone know where I'm going wrong?

  • @alexmayhew-mcneely6965
    @alexmayhew-mcneely6965 5 лет назад

    So helpful, thank you ;-;

  • @ZAGGNUT1
    @ZAGGNUT1 6 лет назад

    Yeah, but what is a flashlight?

  • @stylus2006
    @stylus2006 11 лет назад

    In a RFID system, with a reader and tag, where the distance between them is 0.04 m. how to apply this concept ? Thanks in advance for your help......

  • @MrKinglizzie
    @MrKinglizzie 9 лет назад

    Just like TV and radio transmissions emitting out into space.

  • @dreaminginnoother
    @dreaminginnoother 4 года назад +1

    So using this formula, the moon would be about 57,000 times brighter if you were only 1000 miles from it? Jeez, how bright the moon?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  4 года назад +1

      Except... if you were just 1000 miles from the moon, then you would not be seeing it as a point source. At 1000 miles, which is relatively close for something that size, you would only be able to see part of it at a time, so you wouldn't experience the full brightness, just the light from whatever area of the surface that was in your field of vision.

    • @dreaminginnoother
      @dreaminginnoother 4 года назад +1

      @@derekowens how far would you have to be to see the whole source? So the brightness is additive as you can see more over longer distances to kind of cancel out the inverse square law?

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  4 года назад +1

      @@dreaminginnoother I don't think there is a specific answer to your question. The farther away something is, the more closely it approximates a point source. As you get closer to the moon, it less-closely approximates a point source so the calculation becomes less accurate. Very close to the moon, you would think of it as being close to a flat surface. Very far from it, you could think of it as a approximately a single point. Different mathematical relationships would describe those two different situations.

    • @dreaminginnoother
      @dreaminginnoother 4 года назад +1

      @@derekowens I guess I have difficulty understanding the difference between a point source and a flat (or round) surface being lit, or at what point it could be considered more of a point source and inverse square law woud be relevant as a calculation... If it is relevant, it seems like the moon would be bright af if it is that bright 239k miles away. Almost like it's its own light source and maybe not that far.

  • @EvanLoper-tl9qj
    @EvanLoper-tl9qj 2 месяца назад

    Does this apply to space? And light with distances so massive.

    • @derekowens
      @derekowens  2 месяца назад

      Yes, it certainly does. You can think about the amount of light per square meter landing on earth and compare that the light per square meter landing on Mars, farther away. And on out to the more distant planets and beyond.