Why You NEED these Overengineered Japanese Office Supplies! 📋✨

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @JetPens
    @JetPens  Год назад +136

    We're back with another installment in our Overengineered series. Which video has been your favorite so far? Let us know in the comments. Watch all the videos here: ruclips.net/p/PLSMVvri4yXji6yJm_yMvSQ-ptKx7L1wCg

    • @GamingHub-pro
      @GamingHub-pro Год назад

      Hello jets I want to make a request from you guys that in Pakistan the delivery of these beautiful pens marker's gel pens roller ball etc are not possible from Jetpens please make the delivery in Pakistan.I love these stationary and want to have just one but delivery is the problem if you read this msg that was too much for me thanks if you guys read this msg 😊

    • @sebastianreyes8025
      @sebastianreyes8025 Год назад

      what would be cooler is if we could combine these into one multi tool, like the office multi tool from the 80s

    • @Author_Alyssa_Taylor
      @Author_Alyssa_Taylor Год назад

      JetPens -- Really appreciate the honesty of not making every product. I like knowing its shortcomings as well. :)

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 Год назад +1698

    This is why I really like the Japanese stationery scene. Every element has been incorporated so thoughtfully to things that most people take for granted.

    • @nBasedAce
      @nBasedAce Год назад +23

      I swear that you can't get good stationary supplies in American stores.

    • @Fr0stbite1801
      @Fr0stbite1801 Год назад +33

      @@nBasedAce You can, but they're so boring. Just blister packs of ticonderoga #2 pencils or pink pearl erasers. You can still get some stuff from like pentel or zebra, but japanese stationery stores are where it's really at.

    • @cyberpunklain
      @cyberpunklain Год назад +23

      @@Fr0stbite1801 pentel n zebra r japanese brands lol. bic has some pretty good multi color pens but theyre made in japan loll.

    • @BondJFK
      @BondJFK Год назад +2

      Lol rest of the world simply use MS office 360, Japanese stuck in 60s

    • @yjas8904
      @yjas8904 Год назад +8

      @@BondJFK may i ask how did you come with this conclusion sir. your brain is interesting

  • @debrarantilla9879
    @debrarantilla9879 Год назад +818

    I like the “stapler” without staples… saves a step and makes it even easier to recycle papers.

    • @Vyz3r
      @Vyz3r Год назад +53

      Only issue with it is that once you separate the pages, it'll be difficult to put them back together and now you have to make another hole next to the other big hole if you want to staple them again.

    • @rydergolde3169
      @rydergolde3169 Год назад +80

      @@Vyz3r I mean, if you're gonna be separating papers then you're probably not gonna staple them normally, it'd be better to use a paperclip or even a binder clip, depending on how many papers you have

    • @Vyz3r
      @Vyz3r Год назад +53

      @@rydergolde3169 Have you never experienced times when you or somebody else needed to remove staples to fix/copy a paper and then staple them again? As someone who worked in an administration office, this is quite common. A stapler like this would not be use after the few times because it ruins the papers.

    • @rydergolde3169
      @rydergolde3169 Год назад +23

      @@Vyz3r no that's fair enough, I didn't consider needing to make copies after smth was stapled.. ig I'm just still a bit used to papers in school having the diagonal mark from where it was folded over for copying

    • @Pavlinka__
      @Pavlinka__ Год назад +12

      ​@@Vyz3r There are stapless stamplers that don't make such a gigantic hole and are made for easier separation if the papers need to be separated. it's like 0,5 cm line, so it's not all that visible and if you reapply, it's still fine. it's also kinda possible to reapply it on the same spot but it's less strong of a hold when you do so.
      i don't like the stapler shown in this video at all. it's such a big hole. would be way better making that manually, with smaller slit.

  • @pereiramariana35
    @pereiramariana35 Год назад +339

    those rulers would have been great back when i was in geometry class, i had alot of dificulty to draw neatly and precisly and to see the milimeters in the rulers

    • @XSemperIdem5
      @XSemperIdem5 Год назад +6

      Back then I had a set that was clear plastic and they didn't stand a chance getting carried around in my backpack. Pieces started chipping off and they eventually shattered. I always worry when I see clear plastic rulers like that.

  • @Sentom23
    @Sentom23 Год назад +41

    4:40 its not just about eco-friendliness, but also about not clogging the shredder, so you save the headache of HAVING to remove the staple.

  • @AMiniki
    @AMiniki Год назад +132

    I have that black Midori ruler and you forgot to mention one important thing that caught me by surprise when I got it. When you open the ruler, one of the sides has a 15 cm mini ruler that doesn’t have the gap. So it measures 15 cm from the very edge of the ruler. It is very very useful.

  • @graytonw5238
    @graytonw5238 Год назад +125

    Although some of these tools are limited in their capability, the ingenuity is impressive. I remember waaaay back in grade school our teacher showed us how to bend a few pages at the corner and manually tear a small strip of the sheets back the other way, which was a form of staple-less stapling. I didn't even know they had a tool for the same purpose.

    • @herbrand47
      @herbrand47 Год назад +1

      I first learned that tick back in 1962 when I first started work and still use to day.

    • @1015SaturdayNight
      @1015SaturdayNight 9 месяцев назад

      We called it “dog eared”

  • @EddVCR
    @EddVCR Год назад +34

    I’m so glad there are people out there who gets my adoration for Japanese office supplies. They’re so well thought out and constructed so perfectly.
    I have the Midori Multi Rulers, both the clear plastic one and the aluminum one. Let me tell you, it’s the best thing ever. It takes up very little real estate, so they’re perfect for keeping on your desk or carrying!

  • @dollchuu
    @dollchuu Год назад +305

    I didn’t even know that stapler without staples existed! It blew my mind 🤯 definitely over engineered but amazing. That bookmark is good too. I need one like that for my Apica CD Premium Notebook ❤ thanks for another great video!
    Edit: Thanks for all the likes! 😊

    • @frankbass7561
      @frankbass7561 Год назад +6

      My parents had a page pinner like that when I was a child, seventy years ago. It replaced straight pins that were used before staples.

    • @dollchuu
      @dollchuu Год назад +3

      @@frankbass7561 wow! That’s crazy that long ago. But I had never seen one before. Or knew they existed.

    • @solandri69
      @solandri69 Год назад +2

      We used to do that to bind pages together by hand in grade school. Fold the corner of a stack of pages. Tear a notch in the middle of the fold, and bend it the other way. It didn't have the fancy arrow and tuck that this thing does, but there's only so much you can do when tearing by hand.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Год назад +2

      I have used a stapleless stapler for years. Mine does not put holes in the paper, but still keeps them together

    • @dollchuu
      @dollchuu Год назад

      @@robertheinkel6225 that sounds neat! Never heard of them before. Or seen one.

  • @andrealevy218
    @andrealevy218 Год назад +78

    I can say the staple-less stapler for me has been game changing. My mini staplers failed repeatedly & I need it multiple times a day. This thing is great I just don’t know what to do with all the staples now I’ll never use!

    • @Alinor24
      @Alinor24 Год назад +5

      Gift them to colleagues.

    • @withjoe1880
      @withjoe1880 Месяц назад

      Traditional staples are still needed for official documents like tax forms and other government forms. They should also be used for any other important document where you don't want larger holes.
      Also, traditional staples tend to perform better when you are stapling things that are thicker than a few pages because the fold becomes increasingly thick with more pages.
      Of course, personally, I prefer paperclips or binder clips which can be infinitely reused. And, they don't leave holes in the paper. You can get hundreds of paperclips or a few dozen binder clips for a couple bucks.

  • @eskimberly7424
    @eskimberly7424 Год назад +16

    I don’t NEED any of these items, but now that I’ve watched this video I WANT several of them, especially the clipboard. Jet Pens is my candy store!

  • @tokiomitohsaka7770
    @tokiomitohsaka7770 Год назад +48

    I love the idea of a stapler without staples, and the magnetic clipboard looks really convenient.

    • @_cb336
      @_cb336 Год назад +1

      Yes. Good choices. Mine too.

  • @susanm1109
    @susanm1109 Год назад +32

    I’ve had the Midori Multi Ruler for a couple of years. I use it often as a ruler and as a protractor, but I never thought of using the holes to draw arcs. Thanks for the tip!

  • @_TSC_46
    @_TSC_46 Год назад +19

    Came outta my mechanics class and god I can’t explain how wonderful it is to see your videos after a somewhat exhausting class. For my birthday I know what I’m splurging on

    • @AKei1412
      @AKei1412 Год назад +3

      happy early(?) birthday man! hope your mech class goes well too 💪🏻

    • @_TSC_46
      @_TSC_46 Год назад +5

      @@AKei1412 oh thank you haha! Yea it’s been good I’m currently doing an annual check on a Cessna 152 thank you again :))

  • @scorinth
    @scorinth Год назад +3

    I have used the magflap clipboard on the factory floor at work, attaching it to steel plate on a machine while taking notes.
    Extremely convenient!

  • @jansusanjennafletcher1712
    @jansusanjennafletcher1712 Год назад +1

    Of all the JetPen amazing offerings- the Best invention is the staples stapler!!! Everyone needs one and it is a guarenteed winner! Not only do you not have to worry about refilling staples- the creative way the tool locks your papers together is simply genius!!

  • @d3xbot
    @d3xbot Год назад +6

    I've got that Kokuyo Harinacs stapler at my office. It's really useful for keeping documents together and not having to worry about the shredder

  • @LaLa_ArtGal
    @LaLa_ArtGal Год назад +7

    That Midori Multi-Ruler looks wonderful!!

  • @minhly8487
    @minhly8487 Год назад +23

    The multi ruler might come in handy for creating guidelines for calligraphy practice. The stapleless stapler is next on the list for me since I find myself handling lot of papers from printed itineraries these days (I'm a tour guide), it seem more eco friendly and hazard free (corrosion is a real thing if you live in high humidity climate). Lastly, I really dig the voice of the narrator, sorry I don't know your name.

  • @phenager
    @phenager Год назад +14

    I have the Sun-Star Stickyle Pen-Style Stapler and LOVE it. For several years I did administrative work out of a tote bag in a remote location. It was so useful to have a real stapler that was the size of a pen or pencil.

  • @karinwade
    @karinwade Год назад +7

    I purchased the king jim clipboard recently and it is the best designed clipboard I've ever used. Worth every penny!

    • @XSemperIdem5
      @XSemperIdem5 Год назад

      How's the texture of the material if you only put one sheet directly on it to write? I always have to put more sheets behind the page I'm writing on because of materials having textures.

    • @karinwade
      @karinwade Год назад +1

      @@XSemperIdem5 It feels smooth and flat while writing. It does make more 'noise' than if you have pages underneath. Of course, the type of paper used makes a significant difference.

    • @Nissambatukakangku
      @Nissambatukakangku Год назад

      Sorry but, my dumb self just misread "King Jim" as "Kim Jong-un".

  • @lilyflare2
    @lilyflare2 Год назад +23

    I am a huge fan of all things Japan and I have an unhealthy love of office supplies. Finally, the two have been combined.

  • @ks7343
    @ks7343 Год назад +5

    The clipboard is so cool! And I like the protractor ruler too!

  • @yowo6105
    @yowo6105 Год назад +4

    all the rulers seem like super useful to have! i also think the stapleless stapler is great, i had heard of it before. The clipboard is also so simple yet so effective!

  • @joseruizdiaz9622
    @joseruizdiaz9622 Год назад +2

    The ruler that uses the constrast between colors instead of drawn lines is super cool; there is no margin of error, it's ultimate precision

  • @TheLefty5o2
    @TheLefty5o2 Год назад +1

    the clipboard is definitely overengineered, but it is an absolute thing of beauty.

  • @MichaelMechsner
    @MichaelMechsner Год назад +1778

    As an engineer, I’d just like to say there’s no such thing as “over engineered.”

    • @MollyHJohns
      @MollyHJohns Год назад +73

      Edit; TLDR; JUICERO. Period.
      As a passerby, imo, over engineering happens when mundane everyday things that can be operated directly by hand needed extensive and complex AI and wiring system, specific software that only works for it, needs firewall, link to other electronic devices, WiFi, personal ID, and/or battery power or electric source to work, can only do one thing and one thing only, can't be used with pirated accompanying products, and exclusive/special branding, that leads to the insane price hike only rich and idle people can afford. Stupidest example that ever exist for this is, Juicero. You can't deny this one.

    • @realleon2328
      @realleon2328 Год назад +55

      @@MollyHJohns I would just describe this as poorly engineered

    • @MollyHJohns
      @MollyHJohns Год назад +20

      @@realleon2328 that thing isn't poorly engineered at all. It works fine, but it's too fussy and too costly to make despite the nice design and okay function. Thus, it is over engineered imo.

    • @realleon2328
      @realleon2328 Год назад +36

      @Molly H. Johns the fact that it is so fussy and overly complicated is exactly what makes the design poor. A well engineered item is something that's easy to use and reliably functional

    • @MollyHJohns
      @MollyHJohns Год назад +18

      @@realleon2328 okay I accept. Then it is both overly AND poorly engineered thing. Fits both description no matter how you look at it.

  • @fahad_hassan_92
    @fahad_hassan_92 Год назад +1

    Can we just talk about how nice the style of these videos is?

  • @lindakilmer2548
    @lindakilmer2548 Год назад +6

    I love over -engineered!! I love the Magflap!! Stationary needs more magnets!!

  • @mochinh
    @mochinh Год назад

    Stapleless stapler definitely put me in awe! That's definitely an invention I didn't know I needed when it comes to filing but needing to throw them away after an X amount of years

  • @jayashreesmani5641
    @jayashreesmani5641 Год назад +3

    Very interesting! Rulers are usually not marked from the very end because the edges tend to fray and get damaged.I used a steel Japanese ruler for many, many years, and eventually, it too wore out, and I had to start measuring from the 1 cm mark

  • @thestargazingnurse8605
    @thestargazingnurse8605 Год назад +4

    When I was in the behavioral hospital, they used that staple-less stapler for the packets they would hand out so the patients couldn’t get their hands on sharp staples. It’s pretty smart

  • @dian277
    @dian277 Год назад

    the multi ruler with wholes are so useful, back in elementery and middle school, we used to each own a set of geometrical rullers, protractors and compases, this ruller is all in one and without the maintenance.

  • @mehmetgurdal
    @mehmetgurdal Год назад +2

    japan is a heaven for retrofuturism.
    in this digital age we rarely require these supplies (at leat I dont) but japan has the all necessary supplies with higher functionality.

  • @mangouschase
    @mangouschase Год назад

    the accurate switching pattern for the markings and the -staple- r are great

  • @VirtualBilly
    @VirtualBilly Год назад +1

    You haven’t swayed me. I will ALWAYS buy staples again.

  • @Sir-Darmstadt
    @Sir-Darmstadt 8 месяцев назад

    the magnetic clipboard is AMAZING

  • @ninj0shikirei
    @ninj0shikirei Год назад +2

    The first time I saw the staple-less stapler, I was so amazed. You don't need those metal thingies around plus no need to remove them. I had to find one in a stationery shop. Bought something similar to the sticky notes style markers as well. I love the design and quality of Japanese stationery and supplies.

  • @jjk4891
    @jjk4891 Год назад +1

    I have this stapler and I love it! Makes recycling so much easier. My coworkers also loved it lol They would knock on my office and ask to use the stapler

  • @Sacrificallamba
    @Sacrificallamba Год назад +2

    I used the Midori bendable ruler. Loved it and it's quite space saving. And the sticky notes stack is also great, especially if you are annotating a book.

  • @raulabc7
    @raulabc7 Год назад +1

    Wow. Things like these are a dream for many

  • @anjelitamalik9763
    @anjelitamalik9763 Год назад

    Even watching these is already satisfying. Must remember to visit a stationery store when I go to Japan

  • @caicai2673
    @caicai2673 Год назад +1

    The clipboard seems to be so easy to work with and so amazing

  • @sumaiyaqureshi662
    @sumaiyaqureshi662 2 месяца назад

    ooo that clipboard and the stickies card is love!! I want both!

  • @ChillGuy511
    @ChillGuy511 Год назад

    40 seconds in and I'm already sold! So cool!!

  • @idee7896
    @idee7896 Год назад

    Multi purpose, compact, thoughtful.

  • @jess7142
    @jess7142 Год назад

    I love kokuyo. They really know what they bring to the market.

  • @emilyr2836
    @emilyr2836 Год назад +4

    I already have quite a specialty ruler collection, and it looks like it'll be getting bigger soon!

  • @claravian
    @claravian Год назад

    The way I had a nerdgasm looking at all this clever stationaries 😩💕 I want it alllll

  • @peterbrolmann8853
    @peterbrolmann8853 Год назад

    Everybody needs that stapless stapler. That thing seems revolutionary

  • @alishanjavid
    @alishanjavid Год назад

    that multi tasking ruler is amazing

  • @emisorano
    @emisorano Год назад

    Computer Engineering student here, the staple less stapler and the magnetic clipboard are more than favourites to me. I used to have a cheapo mag clipboard and thet thing was a life saver.

  • @bill4123
    @bill4123 Год назад

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video! I'm including some of this stuff in my next order!

  • @hotmandead1
    @hotmandead1 3 месяца назад

    The stapleless stapler is outclass !

  • @sanjayharsh3532
    @sanjayharsh3532 Год назад

    Each every product is an engineering marvel no doubt

  • @IZZYCHAN13
    @IZZYCHAN13 Год назад +11

    I've heard of stapleless staplers and it's nice to see them in action
    I hope the clipboard has a hard surface cause I'm interested

  • @keithlevkoff8579
    @keithlevkoff8579 Год назад

    The magnetic clipboard is cute...
    I had an antique version of the "staple-less stapler" from the early 1900's (it was metal and had a desk stand).

  • @GonzoTheRosarian
    @GonzoTheRosarian Год назад

    I am an office supply nerd….love these!

  • @Finithedum
    @Finithedum Год назад +2

    This is the best channel 🙌

  • @mliittsc63
    @mliittsc63 Год назад

    Magflap and staple-less stapler are cool. Kokuyo ruler is good. The other rulers have moving parts made out of plastic. Moving parts + plastic = breaks quickly. I don't have much use for bookmarks or sticky notes.

  • @cypherusuh
    @cypherusuh Год назад

    that clipboard looks really slick!

  • @anm13682
    @anm13682 Год назад

    All is functional and very thoughtful

  • @SatumainenOlento
    @SatumainenOlento Год назад

    This is awesome! *Not over-engineered, but engineered RIGHT!*

  • @RosyRosie42
    @RosyRosie42 Год назад

    I have ZERO need for a clipboard in my life, but I LOVE IT!!!

  • @Malkah66
    @Malkah66 Год назад +1

    Love them!!!!! Really blew my mind.

  • @Ryuai1
    @Ryuai1 Год назад +8

    Why? Why?! I don't go to school anymore! Why do they bring out such cool stuff that I can't use at school anymore!!!! 🥲Anyway, everything they do is incredible!! I hope to buy soon and use it at home just as a hobby! 😊

  • @malvinderkaur541
    @malvinderkaur541 Год назад

    all is good, neat and nice, and i can add lot more in sensible consumer needs.

  • @marsaustralis6881
    @marsaustralis6881 Год назад

    The Stapleless Stapler is a very practical one; I had a much cheaper one that was given out freely at some conference, and used it for years until the sharp edge dulled too much and couldn't punch through paper anymore. It was a novelty of the time, but I got good mileage out of the cheap one I got for free. I should consider the Japanese version for smaller paper sets.
    As for the Protractor Ruler, I recall those being half-gimmick half-functional items sold in the early 00s as school supplies. I had one similar, but the issue with it was that it didn't have a smooth straight-edge; having a curved dip where both ends meet when straightened out. It also didn't protract very well, since it slid pretty loosely. The Japanese version fixes all the issues with the basic one I had except for the arcs, which the version I had did a great job of doing (but in inches).

  • @MikeKobb
    @MikeKobb Год назад

    Love the "stapler" and also the clipboard.

  • @poodlerat
    @poodlerat Год назад

    I have both the Midori folding rulers. They’re truly amazing.

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus Год назад

    I always had dreamed of stapling without the actual staples. Finally Japanese achieved it, brilliant!

  • @brodog567
    @brodog567 Год назад

    That sticky note card looks great!

  • @leeboonkang2
    @leeboonkang2 Год назад +1

    Make sense for japanese stationary to be over engineered because to these very day, paper works are still a very common way for them to do work with while many countries already streamlined alot of their process digitally.

  • @benjaminstorace6699
    @benjaminstorace6699 Год назад

    The tru-measure ruler and the stapleless stapler are the most useful items here. Everything else is unecessary or a hassle, with the possible exception of the highly portable stapler

  • @cronullacruller
    @cronullacruller Год назад

    That clipboard is badass.

  • @BatistaR0X
    @BatistaR0X Год назад

    That “air” stapler wow I am so getting one on my next order!

  • @EdwinvandenAkker
    @EdwinvandenAkker Год назад +1

    There is no such thing as "over engineering".
    It is like _re-inventing the wheel,_ but improving it along the way.
    I liked the clipboard and staple-less stapler. So, I ordered both 😎

  • @madnessintomagic
    @madnessintomagic Год назад

    The rulers and that stapler are great. Also the mag clipboard.

  • @DeadCow04
    @DeadCow04 Год назад

    Wait I have one of these! I bought it like 4 years ago and it has proved really useful

  • @avaa828
    @avaa828 Год назад

    Want all the rulers.. they all appeal to my love of well engineered products.

  • @michaellewis7758
    @michaellewis7758 Год назад +1

    The Kokoyu ruler is just an engineers rule (that’s what they are called in the UK, think it’s the same in the UK)- you can pick them up from any tool shop. Starting from the edge is for measuring, not so great for students drawing graphs etc though

  • @reinamorgana
    @reinamorgana Год назад

    I loved the ruler / conveyor, it's excelent

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel Год назад

    Very ingenious and ergonomic designs.

  • @dee_ewell_pierce
    @dee_ewell_pierce Год назад +1

    Love the Magflap clipboard!

  • @dave3657
    @dave3657 Год назад

    The gap at the start end of the ruler is for accuracy since the end is easily damaged and can affect the first measurement from zero .

  • @versuzzero5335
    @versuzzero5335 Год назад

    I like the stapleless stapler and the protactoruler.
    Not really something I'd use for work, but for personal art use.

  • @maricidevamega939
    @maricidevamega939 Год назад

    4:12 Also came from the Harinacs series, the SLN-MPH105 is even better that it does not penetrate the papers but just bind them together on the edge.

  • @jashonce5366
    @jashonce5366 Год назад

    The clipboard is nice. Solves every little inconvenience. Rarely do I see something "over engineered" in japanese products. They mostly keep elements of simplicity in their designs.

  • @TheCelestialhealer
    @TheCelestialhealer Год назад

    Loved them all🎉, so clever… maybe the rulers won me over!

  • @johnfroneman1675
    @johnfroneman1675 Год назад

    The stapler is actually a very old design. I have one that was manufactured in the 1930's and was in use in the office when I started work in 1968. For some reason it was replaced by the more 'modern', now familiar, design.

  • @tamikojohnson5399
    @tamikojohnson5399 Год назад +1

    The Midori Ruler. I have no use for it, but somehow I think I need it. :) I adore Japanese office supplies!

  • @Sonicman415
    @Sonicman415 10 месяцев назад

    The stapleless stapler is rad!

  • @bmanpura
    @bmanpura Год назад

    I own a harinacs. It's super useful if you don't really mind some of the corners useless. Also, careful when pulling the document, esp. when they're stuck; the seams are not as strong as they look.

  • @AbiNomac
    @AbiNomac Год назад

    I have the swivel ruler. Thanks very much I didn’t know it did all THAT.

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 Год назад +4

    The only major downside I can see to that paper folder thingy is that a regular staple can go through way more pages than this thing can fold up.

  • @writeousbeauty
    @writeousbeauty Год назад

    Love the clip board with the flap

  • @escanor7938
    @escanor7938 Год назад

    That White stapler !!! I WANT !!!! ❤❤❤

  • @LetsPlayJakey
    @LetsPlayJakey Год назад

    Those staplers are used in food factories to prevent there being little bits of metal that might go in food

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 Год назад +1

    I like the Harinacs staple-less stapler. Staples are a waste of metal. The various rulers are pretty cool; however, most people aren't going to need the absolute precision of the Kokuyo (I still want one though), and with the two-piece rulers, I worry that the locking point will become slightly loose over time, so you won't always have a perfectly straight 30cm edge.

  • @MrRezillo
    @MrRezillo Год назад

    I've always been a sucker for office supplies. Maybe I should move to Japan.