The Stream - Cameroon’s language woes
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On The Stream: English speakers in Cameroon say they are discriminated against by the French dominated central government.
Thumbnail: Anti-government demonstrators block a road in Bamenda, Cameroon, on December 8, 2016. [REUTERS/STRINGER]
In Cameroon, English-speaking Cameroonians are tagged "Les Bamenda" simply because they speak English and treated as foreigners in their own country. Sadly that is the reality. Then instead of promoting the purity of institutions with their adopted foreign languages to assist their students to get proper education and excel even in foreign institutions, the system is contaminated by deploying French-speaking Cameroonians who cannot properly educate the children and at the end confuse them in the making. This is what we are fighting for. Historically (despite the fact that the idiotic Minister of Communication is denying that) they got engaged as two nations that will function as equal partners and be constitutionally recognized at all levels. But I have heard many of them exclaim that an "anglophone man can never rule this country".
It is a shame that they are so stupid. They created a huge disaster out of something that was originally just a small issue.
What language was spoken before french and english colonists showed up
Everyone yelling this white man language and what not need to chill. In this world there is only a few languages that go across borders. English is at the top, I mean you guys are typing in it. What needs to happen is an end of superiority between Cameroonians and a focus on being bilingual (See Swiss) and accepting of both francophone and anglophone Cameroonians as one. Also Paul must go!
Language is not a problem. Cultural bias, underdevelopment, imbalance of power and total marginalization.
Gordon Parker absolutely agree with you. However, this issue stems from a cultural shift in mentality.
Every true Cameroonian should speak French and English. People should stop asking me if I am Francophone or Englophone. I am Bamilike and Cameroonian. It's a culture problem not a language problem.
CharleneAfrik na today I knw say this tchorima na big.fool
Its not a language problem. its a region that was structured under the anglo-saxon functionalities that happens to be the minority of a greater french speaking part. The anglophones are simply fed up with a system that has failed to provide the basic needs (food, cloth and shelter) despite the vast resources that the country possessed. thus the anglophones dont wanna be part of an un-progressive regime anymore.
beats god at least the first comment that actually gives us the realm of this issue
beats god 40/100 of cameroonians can't speak english or French where do you put them?
I want to ask
This question to the minister the president of Cameroon over 35YERS today cn he understand English language if u say Cameroon is one
gosh this was really intense, and the discussion tended to hang in many places...still, it managed to present a valuable insight into the woes that Cameroon is currently facing...
We want a Federation, we want our own judges in our courts, we wants Anglophones administrators in our Region, we need to be in Control of our region, what is too hard about that? Why do you French wants to take what belongs to us, why not given us the opportunity that is our birth right.
This has never been a problem about what language is used. The minister cannot publicly deny the fact that the Republic of Cameroon is made up of two separate entities, that came together in order to form a federal Republic.
When the Government of Cameroon rejects publicly this historical fact, then you can begin to understand the problem of the people of West Cameroon.
Ivo Enow don't mind the crazy guy...he's scared of biya
That anchorman is prettier than all the women that have been on this show. wtf
This is ridiculous. Being fluent in English doesn't make u Anglophone.
Harmony is reflecting the frustrations we have all been through for years. A Government that treats us as though we don't exist and yet has no concrete solution for the Anglo-Saxon problem.
come to Canada.
From the pot into the frying pan?
According to cameroon history the British and french condominium failed in 1916, federalism failed in 1972, the unitary state failed in 1984, the Republic has failed, should we try a monarchy
abandon fear and llive your dreams Shamelessly well biya has been almost like a king for cameroon he has been there very long and blows big parts of the budget on trips to france and other places
Jn RAM so monarchy has failed! We want separation
Dylan Wong on which basis on the basis of wanting the right to choose one language of a colonizer over another i would completly understand if they discriminated based on tribe and language but this just doesnt make any sense to me its mostly french speaking african countries that are like this they use their local language less than their colonial one it is good for business and education but apart from that i dont understand why it is such a big deal
1 the president of the country has never adressed the country in English, and language is not even the problem right now.
What language was spoken before french and english colonists showed up 🤔
try to leave peacefully happy and what God provided you say to him thank you
i love how the minister dodges the question of why francophone lawyers are assigned to anglophone regions ROFL
Well the minister and the lawyer both have a point but more for the minister. ❤ You see the government looks of us all as cameroon in those 10 regions first, before before cones the specificity of the region (french or English) . Nearly all the problems complained for in English speaking regions e.g youth unemployment, french teachers, poor roads, and infrastructures, bilingual schools presence etc.... are equally faced in the french regions. The minister was right when he said his next of kins will be more anglophone. This is probably because his daughters are attending English education in school 🏫. And he's very brought of that and not feeling oppressed by that. This is the mentalist the government what's us to have, that we can live together and gain from each other language and culture 😊. The minister himself has gained our culture (eg, he speaks English and wears English traditional outfits 😉)
So, as he said, it's all about good faith 🙏 ✨️
If we have good faith, we can leave together to handle our differences in a civilized marner. 🇨🇲
The button line is that the government has his flaws (the simple fact that he has not succeeded in making us understand things the way he does is a failure), and we civilian Anglophones have our flaws too.
Please can have the Minister number? 🙏 😢
The way Bobga Harmony potrayed the anglophone problem was competely off and out of touch. He should not be our voice in any way.
Let them give him time to elaborate.
I am Bamilike from the west but I went to school in beau because they have the best English speaking schools.
Bobga Harmony needs tutorials on dialogue. stop interrupting. You guys had a chance to blow off chiroma, but didn't put your fact sheet together. Bobga babbling around, can't find an example of anglophone marginalisation SMH.
it was disgraceful
LUKONG Paul BERINYUY one concrete example, harmony could not say it.
1> Anglophone graduates can't get jobs because they are considered inferior by la Republic.
2> Stagnant Economic development in the NW & SW region in terms of transport, education etc.
3> The out right rejection of the anglophones by Francophones. calling anglophones as Anglo-Fools.
4> The treatment of Lawyers by law enforcement during the peaceful protest was insane. Beating and injuring lawyers
4> The brutal attack on university students on campus, the hostels as seen on videos. In which many were raped, beaten, locked up without trail, killed and property destruction (the police destroying a bike, after the helpless bike owner was beaten merciless )
Throwing tear gas in protesters and non protesters even in the hospital.
Worst of all, the President has been ignoring the anglophones and their demands. He never cared to dialogue with the Lawyers and teachers.
He instead sent people like Danpollo or Ndawara who is non government representative to talk with the Anglophone Elites. This is an insult to the anglophones.
These are some of the few points that Harmony should have pointed out at the beginning of the program.
If this is how Harmony and the others are going to represent the anglophones, am afraid they will not achieve anything.
The minister was using rhetoric to get Harmony and harmony feel for it.
The francophone women said it all. Bamenda or Anglophones are equal to stupid to francophones. So am sorry for those who think francophones do not have a problem with anglophones.
Wake Up Southern Cameroonians. Stop sleeping on Federation.
Independence will cut this dry.
*** Harmony did not even call for the release of the hundreds that have been arrested and locked up. ***
Isaac Davis are francophones having jobs?
foolish minister ...😂😂😂😂 couldn't answer simple questions ...
joseph wirba said it perfectly THANKS
What did we expect from a minister who says one thing in the morning and turns around in the evening to deny. Well Anglophones have suffered outright marginalisation for over 55 years. We have never accepted to be a unified nation. Southern Cameroons came into the ungodly union on the basis of federalism but the bad faith of the francophones and their governments over 5 decades has given us the stance to have our independence restored totally and completely.
Yes we have the universities... what is the need for them when we come out jobless?. it's just a strategy to suppress our cries.
Sorry, this Francophone-Anglophone divide taking place in African space (Cameroon) is much of a non-sense: Africans are at core "Afrophones" (not Francophones nor Anglophones) with own mother tongues. In an afro-environment, French and English are borrowed languages; the brawl between these Cameroonian fellows is groundless if not stupid.
Economy problem all the company have been remove from southern Cameroonian to the French Cameroun.
Tchiroma dull go pass ooo, God have mercy on this aboki
Hahahha, chai. Rosy
this seems to be a ridiculous reason to fight each other
Really? So killing Pakistani because they are Muslim makes more sense? You seem ignorant of forms of government.
U r so right
This Eugene guy was the wrong person to speak for us
I am sorry that the government minister continue to denigrate the Southern/West Cameroon issue into regional balance. He talks about government open for dialogue. Why has the government not implemented the recommendations from AU advising them to meet with the people of Southern/West Cameroon. If they had respected that recommendation the situation in West Cameroon would have been avoided
We are not happy with the problem that is going on in Cameroon we have just ten region in Cameroon
I found the debate quite interesting.
my name is Sampson Njoh from buea base in euro i want the minister to answer the question if cameroon was two countries before caming to one if yes why can,t they accept to go if we dont want the union again.
The way forward is to face the Truth. To maintain peace is to go back to the demacated territories during independence as in shrined in the green tree accord.
I do understand their frustration. Indeed, there is no clear dialogue with the government to address their justified revendication. However, resorting to violence, destroying the little infrastructures that form the legacy of our country is fruitless. There is a better way in my opinion. The world is watching us and horrified in how we lack humanity in treating each other. The administration on the other hand is very incompetent in addressing this issue.
The beginning of sorrows!!
The minister should not compare where he comes from to the anglophone zones. When we want to compare Bamenda that has a good history to the people there to any other city, it should be cities in the francophone zone like Douala and Yaoundé. But Bamenda is like a trash yard with no good road network, no industries, no leaders in the government and despite all the universities there, they are all still filled with francophone professors that don't even speak or understand English. They gradually are wiping away our culture. Anglophones go to school having masters degree come back and still don't have jobs and it's common. There is complete domination in Cameroon by the Francophones to the anglophones from every aspect of life. The minister can laugh over certain questions or even forget what he said after they asked him a very important question bcuz his children already has a bright future. But we listen to you cautiously bcuz we have wounds in our hearts that has been there for more than 5 decades. This has to stop now, we urge for a separation and that's Independent. We will build our nation from grass to grace. We will make our own country more great again
Mental slavery the identity of the english side is only based on who colonized them they speak 3 languages in Eq guinee
the consequences of incremental colonisation via the law by the francophones, and the steady political permissibility of the anglophones CHECKS
before rushing to the comment section to mention this crises as a language problem please make sure to watch the debate and you will see this drives way further than just a flimsy language issue.
james kopenklien am telling u...people read the title and narrate a movie
then just learn English I learned 13 languages you can learn English
In my own opinion, the two tribes we have in Cameroon are poor and rich. As the master of richmen and Women is France, everything is done to erase the southerns parts of the country; English history and culture. there is no meritocracy in Cameroon but corruption. Cameroon is not a nation but a jungle where only interests matter. What being Cameroonian means? honestly I don't know. the diversities of our country should be respected, preserved, celebrated and cheered. we need development, education, opportunities for everyone and not for a few blood drinkers and governants. in each region there is a small paradise representing elites houses and goods and the rest is just the curse. it can be verified in the East, West, North, South parts of our countries. few lifes matter and the majority doesn't. the Tanga Nord and Tanga Sud described in Mongo Beti's Cruel city still exist even in big cities like Douala and Yaounde. Cameroon should be a real equal and bilingual country.
If you understand anything from what the minister said then you might understand our country. Everything is on paper and word nothing concrete
please do not copy for those people are bad copy yourself on the good example
I think the people who know to give good education pastors your teachers your professor or you are an environment where you are growing up
I will be very happy if Cameroon came back together. Cameroon is a peaceful country
there's no bilingual teachers training college in Cameroon....what can 2 billion do to about 2000000 teachers and u say will slave all their problems
I found the debates quite interesting.
replace this moderator please. Very condescending!
Barrister Bobga needs to calm down and put his points striaght he is a lawyer n should know best was gutted with him. Eugene did exceptional well Bakary? The man needs help In other to solve a problem you need to accept there is a problem am afraid this will not be solved any time soon because those who can solve this status quo are still not accepting that there is a problem. When they categorically accept the Anglophones have a problem hence solutions will be put in place.
You know it's a terrible debate when the guy who's clearly on the wrong side based on the evidence presented comes off looking better because he keeps a cool and composed head throughout the debate
I hate this man tchorima of a man
if I hear federation again in someone's mouth then that person doesn't really know what the history of Southern Cameroon is.. I recommend you to trance back from when the 2 Nations came together in 1961, till present day. read the Fubang Conference constitution, then research from 1961 till today, find out what Foncha, St Muna, Dr Gwanu, have gone through since the 2 parties made a gentle man's unity.
Mr minister representing the government. No "Critical Thinking" skills. You need to be schooled Sir. either way I preferred listening to the journalist and Eugene.
Cho Lucas president now!
If I'm a German and speak French does that make me an Anglophone?? Pls some answer me.
That makes you a FRANCOphone
Tchoroma na d dullest man I don ever see
Hahahaha
Just get out of Ambazonia.
the government & the east cameroonians are wicked
Why are you making such an issue about the colonizers language just use one for business education and inter tribal communication and speak more of your local languages
Suffering and smiling haha 😩😩😩😩💸💸
either you are Anglo phone either you are a Francophile you should have to respect your country flag and the country Cameroon concentrations
English speaking people need freedom🗽🚑
anglophones is a reality
Free Ambarzonia
No question is taboo
that's all chiroma knows
Yes distract them. Let them never know who they really are (Hebrews!!). Keep them fighting each other till destruction sweeps all like a raging wave. We're not all deceived!!
Chiroma is of bad faith as concernx this prob cuz I know that even francophone of good faith speaks out the truth. Forinstance the popular musician longue Longue who is a francophone clearly transmitted this in a song. The issue is u don't expect to hear anything good from this popet ministers appointed to top positions who pay allegiance to the govt in place for giving them the opportunity to share selfishly and to them is privilege and not a right. That is the manner in which thgs are run Here
paul biya says everything is cool; no problems here ROFL
this discussion is chaos femi oke needs more powers
Ngoan esele since u seem to dispute what i said , please go through ur tax recite and tell the language which is writen there, please tell me the english words of the following because none ur officilas coudnt give me the right answer.........CARTE GRISSE, VISSITE TECHNIQUE, VINETE, these are documents in the transport sectors which has never been translated by your officials, please answer why the Cameroon Army is only in French in a bilingual country, why should ple protest before the ohada law is translated from french to partial english, thats just the list of our worries, ama cameroonian an need to be treated as such else look for my roots.
Shame to Cameroon white man language
what do u speak in Nigeria? what is ur official language? Pot calling kettle black!
ebuka chukwujugha which language r u using?
ebuka chukwujugha you sound ignorant with this comment.
Isaac Davis you sound more ignorant than Ewe obodo oyibo
Isaac Davis onye ara Tụfịakwa
the Minister wants people of good faith. those are simply the cpdm hallelujah boys to dance to their tune. this people are dishonest. i do not hate my francophone brothers and sisters, but the gvt is terrible.
ridiculous
this is very sad because the anglophones have the academic capital of cameroon; unnecessary unruliness
why the English people wake up now long time ago that Cameroon Cameroon and now the week up to make Amazonian hahaha Really is mad
Learn French.
shame to you Issa Chirouma
what a mess!
What don't make any sense it's because they are all the same people fighting over sounds childish and not mature minded at all stupid all one people wake the heck up people my goodness bless you all 🙏 wake up 🙏
Shame on you Tchiroma
All youths in Cameroon need a job not just the English part of Cameroon!
Please mr Bakary can u tell me why all official documents in Cameroon are only in French in a bilingual country?pls fool ur self not us we are beter of than u think, can u tell me why cameroon millitary is only in french, u talked of ur region been same as ours in terms of development and equal rights, the cotton company (sodecotton ) boss is from the area were its located , alubasa companys boss is from the same region were the company is located , can u tell me why sonara cameroon petrol company which is found in the english region is control by a man from the french area and we only have cleaning jobs in this company?why cant we control things in ur area on the other way round u control every thing we have ,one thing i see with ur guys working with the current government is that u have forget about honesty even at ur old age , ur wickedness has dug ur graves bc we will find a way out, we were two seperate states who decided to become one , now u deny this world wide fact , shame sir.
Micheal Franche totally untrue all official documents are written in both languages.