if you ask me,even though skz dont have the best stage presence,their creativity and way of connecting with the audience makes up for it.Most 4th gen groups in general,try to make themselves look cool and try to make their performances seem "oh my god how the hell did they do that" but even though skz have these charecteristics sometimes,for the major part their stages are meant to be fun.Messing up the lyrics because they always try their absolute best to sing live,smiles and random slip-ups,skz stages are no where perfect and for me personally,i love that.They dont seem like these gods from above who can never mess up,but like normal people having fun on the stage.Skz stages are more focused on standing out from their previous stages rather than standing out from other groups.Again this is just how i view it,you are allowed to disagree :)
I absolutely love how you stated this opinion. Yes skz are one of my ults too so I realize how they play on stage being unique as well as different, apart from other kpop groups. They are allowed to have flaws and mistakes because that's more natural and we love the group more.
just my opinion, i think they're really improving in that department, especially in kingdom they did a terrific job. sure they're not perfect but they're definitely getting better and better, i am so proud of them!
I'm surprised by this opinion bc watching their thunderous stages this era their stage presence is amazing and they look like they're having a lot of fun performing
i don’t know what it is with skz they don’t really try to overdance or overdo it on stage since it all comes very natural to them.. they’re very different then most kpop groups when they’re on stage and i think that that alone makes them stand out a lot
i agree so much with the nct opinion like i wish that some of the older albums were just a little more interesting to buy?? like i feel like i'm not getting what i'm paying for sometimes... like i love getting photocards and things for albums but there isnt alot that comes in them & the packaging isn't that interesting?? the best ones ive gotten so far are nct dream's two most recent releases (hot sauce & hello future).
I hate tbz line distributions also it’s so bad like in reveal younghoon got 2 lines like that was it and they were super short also the company needs to fix this stuff and let all the members shine in the title tracks because some people who only listen to the title tracks might think some of these people can’t sing when they can
no but srly is the sm design team sitting down and scrolling through pinterest for random wallpapers and slapping them on photobooks and calling it an album or smt. and tbh the promotions suck so bad, but it's sm so what did we expect? i swear ten would do a better job designing their albums.
I highly disagree with skz opinion! They are probably One of the only groups that actually have fun performing and are passionate abt it! They don't want to do everything perfectly well like robots but they rather have fun in stage! They won Kingdom for a reason! Their performances were everything and more so lack of stage presence? Not to me personally
That's what I meant but I think i said it in a more constructive way. Skz are one of my ults and their performances are mainly fun to watch because they are just unique, they have their own way of fun on stage performances and it's do wholesome. I didn't mean it negatively ofc.
@@Joyous0 i dont think after watching thunderous anyone should say they lack stage presence. ig when in a song individual members turns come then they outshine the whole.
I actually like twice's rap parts n look forward to it in their upcoming songs ...they are cute n bubbly ..... hardcore rapping might not suit their music / songs.....but chaeyoung should already get ACTUAL raps now ( maybe a solo or subunit , etc ) ...... PS- dubchaeng's raps are more popular/iconic than any other rEaL rapper's lines ( people just dont acknowledge it coz, for them rapping must be fast , having savage lyrics with goth outfits ) I like skz but one of the things I can't do is watch their live performances .....few members over dance some under dance.....i think han n changbin are pleasant to watch coz they are more focused on looking cool ( since they are rappers) n dont really worry abt choreo .....I THINK SO
As I became a Czennie this year I was so shocked when I heard that it was nct dream's first album as I knew they debuted since 2016 but as nct dream wasn't supposed to be a fixed unit on first place I guess that's why sm wasn't planning to give them a full album or promotions But am happy they made the album Their album was a chef kiss Also most of nct lacks are cos of sm but now as many people like me started to Stan the group I hope sm will take them serious and give them some good promotions They gained so much popularity lately
i agree with the nct one! theyre also my ults but the covers are just no ✋ i think bts are one of the boy groups along with txt who makes just amazing covers
9:41 may someone please tell me who was mentioned beside heejin and olivia? cuz i heard ‘e way’ heejin and olivia can potentially be the rappers lineup . . i hope gowon and vivi can get more line for the next comeback ;) and also hope that jinsoul and choerry can have some dope rap for the next comeback as well. stan queens loona
if you ask me,even though skz dont have the best stage presence,their creativity and way of connecting with the audience makes up for it.Most 4th gen groups in general,try to make themselves look cool and try to make their performances seem "oh my god how the hell did they do that" but even though skz have these charecteristics sometimes,for the major part their stages are meant to be fun.Messing up the lyrics because they always try their absolute best to sing live,smiles and random slip-ups,skz stages are no where perfect and for me personally,i love that.They dont seem like these gods from above who can never mess up,but like normal people having fun on the stage.Skz stages are more focused on standing out from their previous stages rather than standing out from other groups.Again this is just how i view it,you are allowed to disagree :)
I absolutely love how you stated this opinion. Yes skz are one of my ults too so I realize how they play on stage being unique as well as different, apart from other kpop groups. They are allowed to have flaws and mistakes because that's more natural and we love the group more.
just my opinion, i think they're really improving in that department, especially in kingdom they did a terrific job. sure they're not perfect but they're definitely getting better and better, i am so proud of them!
I'm surprised by this opinion bc watching their thunderous stages this era their stage presence is amazing and they look like they're having a lot of fun performing
@@auri2773 thats my point actually lmao.Skz stages are pretty fun and different compared to other groups
@@kamyaverse yea they're fun to watch sorry I worded that wrong I meant like the opinion in the vid lol
i don’t know what it is with skz they don’t really try to overdance or overdo it on stage since it all comes very natural to them.. they’re very different then most kpop groups when they’re on stage and i think that that alone makes them stand out a lot
This, exactly my point
Most of kpop rappers are just members who don’t have stable vocals.
hard truth maybe
i agree so much with the nct opinion like i wish that some of the older albums were just a little more interesting to buy?? like i feel like i'm not getting what i'm paying for sometimes... like i love getting photocards and things for albums but there isnt alot that comes in them & the packaging isn't that interesting?? the best ones ive gotten so far are nct dream's two most recent releases (hot sauce & hello future).
SM strangely stepped up their game with nct dream's albums but thank god atleast now I can put my money on something
limitless is rlly cool imo, it has so much stuff in it
i think after wtaching thunderous i dont think anyone will say skz lacks stage presence. each member shined in thunderous...
EVEN I AS AN ORBIT WANTS LOONA TO STICK TO ELEGANT CONCEPTS LIKE BUTTERFLY !! THOUGH THEY SLAYED PAINT THE TOWN !!
there we go
I hate tbz line distributions also it’s so bad like in reveal younghoon got 2 lines like that was it and they were super short also the company needs to fix this stuff and let all the members shine in the title tracks because some people who only listen to the title tracks might think some of these people can’t sing when they can
literal facts and the hard truth
no but srly is the sm design team sitting down and scrolling through pinterest for random wallpapers and slapping them on photobooks and calling it an album or smt. and tbh the promotions suck so bad, but it's sm so what did we expect? i swear ten would do a better job designing their albums.
Exactly omg I was just thinking how the boys themselves could do a better job than SM. It looks so poor and cheap
@@Joyous0 I swear the NCT lightstick looks just as cheap as the albums. It literally looks minecraft inspired 💀
I highly disagree with skz opinion! They are probably One of the only groups that actually have fun performing and are passionate abt it! They don't want to do everything perfectly well like robots but they rather have fun in stage! They won Kingdom for a reason! Their performances were everything and more so lack of stage presence? Not to me personally
That's what I meant but I think i said it in a more constructive way. Skz are one of my ults and their performances are mainly fun to watch because they are just unique, they have their own way of fun on stage performances and it's do wholesome. I didn't mean it negatively ofc.
@@Joyous0 i dont think after watching thunderous anyone should say they lack stage presence. ig when in a song individual members turns come then they outshine the whole.
i was watchin the videos with the captions on and it autocorrected lmao to "el mayo" and I've been crying for the past 5 mins-
THAT WAS ON PURPOSE HAHAHA
I actually like twice's rap parts n look forward to it in their upcoming songs ...they are cute n bubbly ..... hardcore rapping might not suit their music / songs.....but chaeyoung should already get ACTUAL raps now ( maybe a solo or subunit , etc ) ......
PS- dubchaeng's raps are more popular/iconic than any other rEaL rapper's lines ( people just dont acknowledge it coz, for them rapping must be fast , having savage lyrics with goth outfits )
I like skz but one of the things I can't do is watch their live performances .....few members over dance some under dance.....i think han n changbin are pleasant to watch coz they are more focused on looking cool ( since they are rappers) n dont really worry abt choreo .....I THINK SO
I total respect what you said, but the whole red velvet can’t rap is getting old tbh. I’m glad they don’t have many songs with raps tho
this exactly
The way im surprised that u re not talking abt the line distribution in loona 💀
Ikr! As an Orbit, LOONA line distribution is really unfair and annoying
I was going to, but I think so many the videos have spoken about it so I did different.
As I became a Czennie this year I was so shocked when I heard that it was nct dream's first album as I knew they debuted since 2016 but as nct dream wasn't supposed to be a fixed unit on first place I guess that's why sm wasn't planning to give them a full album or promotions
But am happy they made the album
Their album was a chef kiss
Also most of nct lacks are cos of sm but now as many people like me started to Stan the group I hope sm will take them serious and give them some good promotions
They gained so much popularity lately
literally i see you on every nct related video lol
i agree with the nct one! theyre also my ults but the covers are just no ✋ i think bts are one of the boy groups along with txt who makes just amazing covers
Txt just's got the best and cutest album covers and names along with red velvet! Like you can see the creativity yanno?
@@Joyous0 SPECIALLY MINISODE LIKE ITS JUST SO CUTE
9:41 may someone please tell me who was mentioned beside heejin and olivia?
cuz i heard ‘e way’ heejin and olivia can potentially be the rappers lineup
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i hope gowon and vivi can get more line for the next comeback ;)
and also hope that jinsoul and choerry can have some dope rap for the next comeback as well.
stan queens loona
It's spelled "yves" :))
but wayv got their first full album last year, i think 🤔
Nuh uh.
Nice video
I hate Jaden but he was a good producer
:))