Paul, you and I are a lot alike when it comes to this case, my mom followed this case to the time hearing, whole time she lived, she would cry like me almost everytime, but my mom said before she passed, Idk if they’ll ever find her killer, not in my lifetime she said, I said don’t say that Mom,, but Paul,, doing peoples DNA they can pull up and study until they figured out who’s your dad! So with that technology why is this case not solved?? If it’s money they need to say we’ll start a fund to hire a gynecologist to do this case! They have the DNA right!! What’s the holdup! Thanks so much for this video Paul! I’ll be here for more! I follow your channel Thanks Paul❤
I have an entire shelf in my pantry that is Rip Van snacks, delicious and low sugar. Seeing those in the ad made my day. Also I loved hungry root when I had it.
OMG. I have said to my husband that when I die, I hope there is someone waiting on the other side with a list of answers to all the unsolved mysteries I’ve been obsessed with my whole life!
There absolutely is. I know this from listening to people who have died and been resuscitated. They know the answers to all their life questions. Unfortunately the answers are gone when they are brought back. Fascinating phenomenon. I want to know exactly where arias disposed of the knife. I know it’s in the desert, but where.
@ I will show up in the afterlife with a spreadsheet… where is Maura Murray? Where did Susan Cox Powell’s body get dumped? Was Nicole Kessinger involved in the Watts murders? Who killed Jon Benet? Who actually killed Kaylee Anthony? Who took Madeline McCann? Who is the Zodiac? What happened to the Beaumont children? I can and will go on….
Me too, especially the cold case involving my own father's disappearance in Tasmania, Australia in 1992, not long before I turned 14. My younger half sister was nearly 2 years old at the time. He's been a missing person for over 32 years now, and I've finally come to accept that I'm probably never going to get answers in this lifetime. Unfortunately, like so many unsolved cases, there was a completely blundered police investigation involved, which took me many, many years to come to terms with. Even now, I still occasionally have times of extreme anger and frustration toward the police and their gross incompetence. I really do hope that the answers to all of my questions are waiting for me when I pass away❤ As devastating as having a missing parent can be, I cannot even begin to imagine what it must be like to have a missing child, which is something I could never with on another human.
@@lindabarrett5631 yep There is over a million pages of evidence so not enuf evidence is not the problem I think one of the many illusions put forward by the Ramseys apart from the bloody intruder theory is its a dna case There was a top DNA expert at the 13mth grand jury hearing but the time has passed now for those charges I think that for all the blocking blaming smoke and mirrors from the Ramsey it will never be solved but I believe the public know in their hearts and are becoming more vocal on it so I think that alone is a punishment whichever of the other 3 people in that house that night will always have over their head and will follow this family forever so did they get away with it .. .or was there another person stayed the night that night not an intruder but a friend of burkes maybe 2s company 3s a crowd I do think it was unintentional Yes
I wonder if that's happened. So many years have passed that it seems like there wouldn't be any original law enforcement still on the job. I haven't heard about that, though.
It almost doesn't matter, because the original police/detectives messed it up so bad that even if the real perpetrator was caught and brought to trial, a decent defense attorney could instill reasonable doubt with all the speculation over the decades. GOD KNOWS and his ultimate justice will prevail
Or how in an interview John stated the note started "Mr and Mrs. Ramsay" but that was done on another page where the paper was typically in the home and appeared to be the first try
@@usakiwi1986What group calls themselves a ‘foreign faction’? They ‘respect’ John’s business, but not the country it serves. That sounds like misdirection, don’t look at us. We’re not foreign and John is a respectable business man, who served his country.
The Harmony Montgomery case was really hard on me too 💔 I’ve listened and watched a lot of true crime, but that one just really got to me. Absolutely heartbreaking…Incredibly sad. It makes me SICK to think about all the kids and pets that go through that that we don’t know about. May Harmony rest in peace ❤️
@@leemareeh I followed Harmony Montgomery's case from the UK, poor little darling. Harmony was such a beautiful child many parents would have loved this baby as their own. Rip sweetheart ❤️❤️❤️
Love that you mentioned Christina Randall! I’ve been a loyal follower of both y’all since 2019 and I’m still loyal because you’re both fun to watch, super smart, up to date and y’all give such great commentary and info! Much love 💕 Be kind to everyone, everywhere 😊
@@janetsmith8566 That Canadian military serial killer? I don’t remember any kidnapping or a ransom note, but it has been years since I heard about that case. Ugh…it was so creepy!
It’s definitely someone in the house that did it. None of it makes sense for it not to be. How does the kidnapper take the child “for ransom” but never actually takes the child. They kill her in the basement, go back write a 2 page note with the exact amount of money in John’s bonus check but never calls to find out where is the money. They called every friend they had over to the house but no one is actually out looking for the child they are all inside contaminating the crime scene. John doesn’t panic when he finds her. He doesn’t even yell out for police he picks her up and brings her upstairs once again contaminating the crime scene. I could go on and on.
And within half an hour of finding her body, John had called his pilot because he had an "important business meeting" in Atlanta. Even though he _already_ had a flight arranged to Michigan that morning. He finds her body, and suddenly at 1am he _had_ to make a surprise business meeting in Atlanta. Sure.
My main issue of inconsistency is john saying she was asleep and he took her straight to bed AND another time he says he read her a bed time story....hmmmm
I think it’s incredibly interesting that Patsy still had a full face of makeup on from the night before plus the clothes she was wearing. To me, that says she did not go to bed that night.
Under ordinary circumstances, it would not be any big deal, but these are not ordinary circumstances. Anything out of the ordinary on this particular night stands out.
This case is crazy confusing, and then there was the dance classmate of Jonbenet that had an intruder in her room soon after that the police did not investigate
@@mariemoller9901It was lightly investigated and there were similarities between JonBenets case and Amys case. Boulder PD wanted to believe it was the Ramseys who killed JBR so they ignored any evidence that pointed to an intruder, so Amy’s case went cold.
I think it was Burke because that is the reason Patsy wrote the note. They wanted to save him. Otherwise, they would have lost both kids. I have followed this case for 20 years. I have had my mind changed b4, though, but as of now, I lean toward Burke.
I think Burke def was the one who struck her and she fell and perhaps hit her head worse and they thought she was dead or she was having some twitching or reaction and they freaked out and John finished off the job with the tourniquet. So save face from having to take her to the hospital and her possibly dying there and then Burke being taken away from them as well. Patsy absolutely wrote the note though. But I feel like there is evidence or at least things that could point to anyone it's so frustrating.
Everything I have learned about the wealthy, their rituals, their cr*mes against ch*ldren, and the horrific club that demands loyalty from them, combined with the fact that no one was prosecuted for this cr*me, tells me that this horrific tragedy was part of something so much bigger. Patsy was an emotionally link. She passed away. Many poisons mimic and/or create many diseases. I'm just sayin'. I am ABSOLUTELY not a conspiracy theorist. However, this is how I feel about this case.
Typically he does a great job but he has tunnel vision towards Burke and has had that since the beginning of his coverage. Its not a good idea to go in with a target in mind imo
Morning Paul! We all have a case that means more to us than is healthy. Mine is the Daybell Vallow craziness, and I cannot stop thinking about it to this day. Mormons are my unicorns! 😂
Oh dude that one drives me nuts because there were so many warning signs of how bad it would get and no one stepped in. It breaks my heart for those that died, Tammy and Charles included. Sometimes it feels like those two get left out of the convo :/
Hi Donna , What is meant by the term unicorn ? I hear it used often but I do not understand the context. As a woman in her late 60"s , I am not all that hip, lol
Vallow-Daybell, Leticia Stauch, Sarah Boone, Anthony Todt, Ali Albulaban, Ezra McCandless, all of those I will always read, watch, listen, to anything new about them! But, the one that just broke my heart was Jessica Ridgeway
Sooo excited to hear your thoughts on this case! Deception detective totally opened up my eyes about JonBenet and Madeline’s cases. I think the person who killed JonBenet was someone the Ramsey’s wanted to protect. It could’ve been one of our three main suspects, a family member or a friend. She could’ve been drugged and killed at the party that night by a creepy friend and the Ramseys decided to protect the person and pretend she was sleeping and then brought her home to begin the coverup. Or it could’ve happened after the party by someone in their house. Whether it was Patsy, John, Burke or even John’s older son (if he was there), I’m not sure. But I also always come back to believing Patsy wrote the letter. So I completely agree that between the three of them, they’ve always known what happened.
@@clairesanightmare JonBenet was alive when she was sexually assaulted, strangled and hit in the head so that theory doesn’t match the evidence but of course you’re entitled to your own opinion.
I have followed this case from the beginning. And, from the beginning I feel in my heart, I didn’t have to be there to know who committed this crime. The ransom note, the behavior at the funeral, the demeanor in interviews and body language, told me everything I needed to know to make up my mind. God, forgive me if I’m wrong. The fact that this case has never been solved, speaks volumes that my belief in who committed this crime is probably correct. RIP JonBonet, God, will bring justice for you one day, baby. 😢
I used to think Son was eating pineapple and she took some, Son hit her in the head parents covered up. BUT she was SA with paint brush and rope knots etc, I would hope no loving parent could do that to their child to cover up for another child.
He was a weird creepy resentful kid...I don't put any of that past him. It reminds me of that case where the older brother SAd and unalived his little sister to hurt his mom
Yeah that's where I am with it. Covering up an accidental death I can see, but those details make it very difficult to believe it was the parents. There was evidence from the post-mortem that she was repeatedly strangled (sorry for the horrible info) which indicates a sexual predator. I know parents can be abusive but I feel there would be other strong indicators if they were that depraved, and that in turn also negates the covering for Burke angle.
@@swhite5840absolutely. I have two children older boy younger daughter. If my son accidentally killed his sister and i decided it was a good idea to try to cover it up I would NEVER be able to do the things to her that were done to JonBenet. You would need to be an absolute psychopath to do that. If he hit her why not just make it look like she fell down those crazy stairs!
You have accurately described my feelings about this case. It is endlessly fascinating, but will probably never be solved. Here is one thing to consider: Suppose that one of the three (father, mother, son) did something that resulted in JonBenet's death, and the other two colluded to protect that person. Which of these three options is more likely to occur . . . 1-Father and son lie to protect mother. 2-Mother and son lie to protect father. 3- Father and mother lie to protect son. Number 3 is far more likely to have occurred than the other two options, in my opinion. That does not mean that it DID occur. Even though the other two options are much less likely does not mean they could not have occurred, but it is food for thought.
I've always had gur feeling it was the brother in the dining room with the flashlight. I've watched too many cases where the parents will go to great lengths to cover up for their kids. Plus their reactions were too relaxed for me to be genuine.
@@phongpit I don’t agree with you. For the parents to lie and protect the son would require them to put his interests above their own. Both of the parents were selfish, narcissistic and self-centered to a fault.
I’ve always thought this as well - esp with her having pineapple (I think it was 🤔) in the digestive stage that it was…. It seems like the most plausible explanation to me 🤷🏼♀️
One thing I always come back to is they were so concerned with what the public thought of the family and image, accomplishments, and perfection. It almost makes all 3 scenarios equally possible. But it's so hard for me to see them hurt this baby as bad as she was. Then I think of all the fucked up parents. Them not following the instructions from the fucked up letter gets me though. Imo someone else was over or one of them had to do it. John changing stories tho where one places him reading her a story- last to see her makes me wonder too. It's so hard to examine this case. The media has spun it so many ways etc. I hope this little girl gets justice soon.
Same! This case was so botched by the police who had little to no murder crime scene experience. Feels like every year they come out with new info. And nothing changes. Also so creepy those little girl beauty pageants.
I do believe it was someone who had spent time in the house. Knew where paint brushes were, knew where wine cellar was (was tall enough to re-latch lock on top of door)
And knew they would find a pen and paper in a convoluted home, no issue. And the ransom amount - either it was a child who had no idea what amount would make a kidnapping like this worth the risk, or an adult trying to pin it on a child. It's all about the ransom note, some body analysts have said that that's the thing the parents had the most visible stress over. Isn't it very inconvenient to not only have a dead daughter but also a killer son? It would reflect very badly on a pair of narcissistic parents who are concerned with their image. Just speculating though. But this is the only thing that has made sense to me all along.
Greetings, Paul. Seeing a new video from you first thing in the morning is the best way to start my day. I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say about this awful case. The local police botched this from the very beginning. That poor family. One of the things that we can count on from you is that you don't just put out videos just to have a video put out. You put thought and research into it first. Thank you. ... Hello to Angel Roscoe and hugs to your snugglies. Keep well.
I don’t know if you’ve seen them but Pat Brown has done some videos on this case and I always love watching her perspective on true crime because she works in that field and to me always has sound reasoning for her conclusions
As I was watching the new doc all I could think was "I wish Paul would delve into this one". I fear there never will be justice for this poor child, but you never know.
How have I just only now found your channel? I’ve been obsessed with true crime for my entire adult life. I’ve also been surrounded by family who were as well. My late father was a homicide detective, my late husband was a physician/lawyer like yourself and my late father in law was a Judge. All smartie pants types who would engage with me on all kinds of unsolved true crime. Obviously, they’re not here any longer, but now I’ve found you! Can’t wait to hear your breakdown.
I strongly recommend RUclipsr True Crime Rocket Science. It’s so in depth that your head will spin. Every little detail and every theory is discussed in detail.
And for another perspective True Crime Garage has several episodes and really stick to the evidence and dive into many theories including the family but not only the family.
I have read every book he has written. He is scary brilliant His bike theory has me thinking today! It would be nice to just have a friendly conversation about Jon Benet.
They were written in series. He's a little long winded & hesitant to come out & say it because the R's are so litigious. But his work on the case is very good.@SharonFinn-nl9lt
This is absolutely a confusing case! I have a problem with practically every piece of evidence involved coming from within the house so sounds like an inside job. I also wonder about when the Ramsey’s had their house open for a party or something that day, could someone have stayed after the event and hid in the basement until everyone was in bed?
Hey Paul, so glad you are doing this case!! You and I are the same exact age, so I grew up as a young adult watching and listening to this case. It lives rent free in my head, has for years. Glad we have you to start the conversation!
The Ramseys lived in this big elaborate house that the intruder, who also knew John’s exact bonus & only asked for it, but also allegedly worked for a foreign faction, knew how to break in without disturbing anything, take his daughter downstairs without alerting anyone…fed her pineapple & also knew where the luggage was to hide her as well as the broken window (that John Ramsey broke). He also wrote out an entire ransom note with their paper & pen, but then left her body in the home? This is such an obvious fabricated, set-up crime scene. The only reason John Ramsey is free is because of his wealth.
I love your channel! I was “Burke did it” for the longest time. That is until I learned about a string of child murders in the area. Murders of little blonde girls. Especially one instance where a little girl’s bedroom was broken into and an assault was attempted. The mom intervened and the guy leapt out of their second story window. - he knew the little girl by name - the girl went to Jonbenet’s dance studio - he was described as a heavy smoker, 5’7, wearing a baseball cap backwards, wearing all black - cig butts were found in the alley behind the Ramseys house that were never tested for DNA - they lived two miles from The Ramseys - he’d been stalking them while squatting in the neighbors above garage apartment He has never been caught. Another little Boulder girl was abducted from her school when her mom dropped her off late. The little girl came up against the schools locked doors and the mom didn’t know, providing an opportunity for a perp to abduct her. She was found murdered off the side of the highway It’s not that the parents couldn’t have done it, it’s that they’re too smart to have done in in the way that it was. Whoever killed JB was a sadistic pedo. No doubt. To note: yes I do agree the Ramseys behavior was suspicious. Maybe they freaked out when they felt like they were targets. Maybe they thought Burke did, maybe he did. But I don’t think so. I was adamant RDI for the longest but… idk. I don’t know what really happened. I hope it gets solved someday!
Agree w your points. The most important evidence to me is the autopsy showing that she was alive when both potentially fatal wounds occurred ( neck from garrote and blow to the head). She kind of simultaneously had fatal wounds and having petechiae in the eye/cheek area and a head bleed from the blow to the head show that each were done while she was alive. There is no way in my mind that this occurred by any of the family. Staging does not happen while the victim is alive. The only thing I’ve ever heard that made sense is that a pedo ( they do believe they are “in love” and playing a game - at least some subtypes…) did the garrote suffocation one too many times…realized she was minimally breathing and would be a vegetable if she survived at all and did a mercy killing with the blow to the head.
Hard same. Patsy thought Burke did it. I don't think John even knows that she wrote the ransom note, he might suspect, but he doesn't want to believe it. I also think intruder did it, I think the guy that confessed is actually a reasonable suspect. He wrote in his own yearbook shall be the conqueror and the note was signed similarly
I’m soooo glad you’re finally doing a podcast on this! I’m obsessed with this case and cannot believe they’ve never found the murderer considering all the technology we now have. If I die before you I will come to you in a dream and tell you who dunnit!
Thanks for this. I’m 57 & was in one of the same pageants that this little beauty was in( different state & year). This case has always given me the sickest, saddest feeling. I love your channel & content.👏🏼😘
The podcast “A Normal Family” is absolutely incredible. It’s the only podcast I’ve ever listened to multiple times because it’s the most fascinating and thorough approach to this tragedy that I’ve ever heard - especially over the “ransom letter” - and has analysis I’ve never even considered. Highly recommend!
I think of this case as one of the most agreed on true crime cases, among the true crime community. Patsy wrote the note and that's all we can say for sure.
What I found really significant is that John and Patsy's fingerprints were not found on the ransome letter, meaning they never picked up the 3 pages to read it. Not normal behavior of parents who have just lost their daughter to a 'kidnapper'. I think a distraught parent would read and reread that letter if it were a real kidnapping. Pretty clever how Patsy (or anyone) wrote the letter without leaving any fingerprints on it!
So how could they write the note in the first place? I have a feeling that there were heaps of fingerprints on that note because as we know, the cops stuffed up the handling of the crime scene. Maybe the cops SAID there were no fingerprints because their own were all over it! "Oh crap, did you handle it too Sergeant Dumbarse? Let's just say there were no prints on it at all, yeah? Cool. You got another donut handy? You got THAT on the note too? We are in deep shit..."
Totally agree about Deception Detective. I've also been enjoying True Crime Rocket Science's channel - lots of interesting perspectives on the tiniest details.
I’m so happy to listen at work! Miss your long videos but wishing you and your loved ones a happy new year. Oh and I think I speak for all your listeners, We love you talking about ANY and all cases! ❤
True Crime Garage (podcast) finally changed my mind when it came to this case, after years of going by what the media stories said & what seemed to me to be obvious. To me it comes down to the autopsy, the extensive and severe petichial hemorrhaging, particularly in her eyes, which means she was not bashed in the head first. She was strangled first, which points to a child predator. I think it may have been someone the fam knew from that goofy church...there were many creepy dudes with predatory histories towards children that were part of that whole group. Also some very creepy photographers. There's been enough money for Parabon to do IG, no reason for them not to have solved this already besides Boulder flat out refusing to. Their tunnel vision is the reason it's been stagnant. They refuse to do any further testing, which is extremely... po-dunk to me. Love your show and cute decorations❤❤❤!!
The Zell brothers have been studying the case for decades and say there were at least 4 pedo rings in the area and that crazy church was full of pedo "elites"
Love their series on this! They focus on the timeline (as much as possible), the evidence and many different theories than we’ve ever heard instead of sticking with just the family.
Agree, I recently changed my mind and feel like it was someone from outside the family. But I think John and Patsy always knew who it was and knew JonBenet was being sexually abused. That's what they were really trying to cover up.
This is the first time I’ve come across your Video’s and I’ve already subscribed, you’re a breath of fresh air on here, I literally love the way you present yourself and the case, so much energy and so entertaining as well as informative. Love it!
The first detective there did not secure the crime scene, move the body twice covered it and just let the head stick out so mom could throw herself on her baby, Didn’t make anyone leave let everybody keep walking around. She should’ve been fired I get that it was a holiday and there weren’t many people around but sending the family to go look for something in the house is ridiculous.
Look into the local DAs office at the time and the one that followed. That's who blocked this investigation literally from day one. The cops had no chance to do their job.
I believe the parents either definitely did it or they know who did for a couple reasons. One of the main reasons was that if their daughter were truly kidnapped, why leave your other child sleeping alone in the other room in that huge mansion? As a parent, my other children would be glued to my hip. I believe they purposely contaiminated the scene. Even patsy spoke about the oj case on a talk show...so they clearly followed that case which was big on a contaiminated crime scene.
Wow great point about if they were concerned for the brother they wouldn't have left him "sleeping" in that huge house with a potential kidnapper around
When the police asked Burke if he was scared the murderer would come back, he said he wasn't, which is extremely unusual for a child whose sibling has been murdered. That plus the blunt force trauma and the pineapple in her stomach makes me think he killed her accidentally, and the parents covered it up because they didn't want to lose both kids.
Oh I completely agree with this. I think the parents were actually allowing adults to spend inappropriate time with her in return for cash and things went too far on accident. I think this is why the father and mother were always so vehemently denying it was Burke, because they know better than anyone how much it was their fault what happened to their daughter. Patsy was an evil lady!
My past few years of consuming true crime content I have learned one thing: women very often stand by their man. Be it husband or son, grandson(s), son-in-law, boyfriend. I agree that the letter was likely written by Patsy.
I understand and have empathy for what you said at the beginning. All the speculation will never take away the fact that this sweet little girl's last moments were horrific. That's what hurts the most. She deserved to have a full happy life. Breaks my heart.
Not Patsy. Burke. He was known to have anger issues and fecophilia, and their parents had a golden child/scapegoat dynamic with them. Patsy wrote the note to cover for him because she didn't want to lose both her children in one day.
I think she snatched a piece of Burke's precious pineapple so he hit her in the head with the big maglight. Patsy and John covered it up. The Grand Jury got it right... the DA refused to go ahead. He and John Ramsey's lawyer are BFFs.
You describe how I feel about this case. I initially was for years no way the mom or dad or brother did it. Then I had a decade where I thought nope the mom and dad did it or cover up for the son. Then I went back to nope. And now I just feel Jon Bennett will always be a victim. Victim of who ever killed her, a victim of the system who didn't give her justice.
CONTINUED - the two things I need to know, and as many hours I have spent researching them, I still find multiple different answers: is there evidence of long term SA? For every no I have found 2 yesssses AND did the head injury happen before or after death? Without those two questions being answered with fact, I can’t settle on a road to go down.
Different Dr's came to different conclusions about the SA. It also appears the SA was not human contact but an object? The history of uti's & something like 100 Dr visits by age 6 is concerning, however. So it seems their family Dr may have turned a blind eye.
@ I know!!!! I went through hours of reading and it seemed like no one agreed on the history of abuse. One guy even discussed the Hyman’s condition but there were so many factors that could have impacted its condition. One out of my three daughters had reoccurring UTIs that faded over time. Couldn’t find any reason for it, just a thing so I get it. Is her health record public? Because I know there were many visits for various things. But Patsy went through cancer…being a hypochondriac towards your children is not uncommon after something like that. My two daughters age difference is the same as Burke and JonBenet, even though it wasn’t my first, having that 4 yr difference made it feel like my first kid and I did go to the dr for every goose egg and fall. I pay for insurance so why the hell not???
This is why I love you. You literally put exactly how I feel into the words I can’t figure out how to explain!☺️ each theory has validity for me and I’m convinced I’ll never have the answers for this case. So weird
Patsy wrote the 3 page letter, no doubt, so she was covering for herself or another family member. The Ramsey’s refused to interview with the police for months, and then only did so with lots of conditions. They gave media interviews on channels like CNN to get their side out before talking to police. John Ramsey hired separate lawyers for himself, Patsy, Burke, his ex wife, and both of the children from his 1st marriage. Even John’s kids in Atlanta refused to speak to police. The Ramsey’s hired PR people (he denies this but is lying), pressured and used their connections to get special treatment. The Ramsey’s sued everyone who made accusations against them. They sued CBS for 250 million, they basically sued the media to stop talking about them. That’s why the new so called “documentary” was done in connection with John Ramsey, showing his side, better to do that than risk being sued. John Ramsey has twisted the facts so much, what you hear in the Netflix doc are NOT the true unbiased facts.
I'm so down for this series from you! For alot of us true crime doc. OG's, this is one of the cases that got us so into the genre. And with your knowledge of the case, we know it will be a deep dive! "Let's talk about it"!
Good morning Paul and our little angel Rosco 🐾🐾🌈🕊️and our little Beau and Luke 🐾🐾🐶💙🐾🐾🐶💙. I guess what I wonder is why in the world if they were covering up for somebody why would they do what they did to her??? Just sickening 😢 I can't imagine it! I don't know!!!!!
I can’t believe that anyone would go to commit a crime totally unprepared. The fact that such a long “ransom” letter was written using paper and pen from the house doesn’t make any sense. Such a specific amount of money doesn’t make sense. The fact that the police searched the house and couldn’t find her. But, John found her immediately doesn’t make sense. It seems to me it had to be an inside job. I do think Patsy wrote the letter in an attempt to cover up who did it. I just can’t decide who I think actually murdered her. I have a theory on someone who may have harmed her beyond recovery but may not be the person who ended her. I don’t think justice will ever be served and that not only makes me sad but also furious.
The fresh pineapple in her stomach always makes me wonder what happened. And the fact that only Patsy and Burke’s fingerprints were on the pineapple bowl and glass. JonBenet supposedly didn’t have any, and was put straight to bed, so their story doesn’t make sense. (None of them do, tbf) The other thing that bugs me is the two marks on her body that supposedly came from a taser. Or was it the train track from Burke’s train set? But I agree, the parents are just too fishy to be completely innocent. I think they must know what happened.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID 🙌 I follow everything about this case, it would be amazing if after all these years it could finally be solved...but everytime I watch something I start going down that road a little and it just causes more and more questions and possibilities everytime
I agree with everything you just said! Very complicated case. I just found your channel and I'm looking forward to hearing your analysis. True Crime Rocket Science takes a really deep dive into the this case too.
After watching the Netflix documentary and seeing her injuries, it moved me away from her mom completely especially since there was male DNA found. I do believe it was someone who knew them though. Prayerfully one day, it will be solved.
That's always been my clue, that note! They cleared out the entire family! Fine, but that specific amount says it all! The person who did such crime is close to the family!
The Ramsey’s had Christmas 🎄 Open Houses for the community. I believe the intruder scoped out the house then and maybe stayed hiding in the house for awhile.
One theory is that Burke had a friend sleep over and planned to go on their trip with them (Burke constantly had a friend over to play with, I personally believe to keep Buke entertained and occupied to keep him from fighting and picking on Jon Benet) just my belief from studying this case. My theory is the Stine boy. The last family friends house they stopped at that night. Something happened between the two boys and jonbenet accidentally and Both parents had a part in covering. They had to cover because a family friends son was there, involved and implicated as well. The boy left on Burkes Bike that night and went back to his house which was not that far away. The Stines were not called to come over that day she was found, even though they were the closest friends. And the closeness of their frienship was downplayed to LE after. In crime scene photos you can notice two soda cans in burkes sink. We can start from the beggining and still wont be able to get full justice because so much was lied about, covered up and convoluted purposley. A mixture of miniscule dna wont bring any real answers. The "pagentry" of it all. Allegedly just a theory. We're probably wrong. 🤔
@@aliquot8404Not correct. There was patches of snow. There's even crime scene photos of outside of the home and there's bicycle tracks in the snow. Although it was stated JonBenet rode her bike earlier in the day before they left for dinner at friends house.
Love your videos. Have you ever looked into the story of Kyron a young boy who disappeared in Oregon after his step mother claimed she dropped him at school?
Have been waiting for you to dive down this rabbit hole. Have watched so much footage, interviews, movies....I have lots of thoughts but will post tomorrow
From the start I just wanted to tell you Paul… I think a lot of people our age are crazy invested in this case but we were so scared and confused over the years we tend to keep everything to ourselves… EDIT: Paused at 18:29 I have considered and my gut says Burke did it, John & Patsy covered for him. They shielded him so much from the police at jump it’s so suspicious. However like you say there has yet to be enough evidence to truly call anyone out or place anyone as a suspect.
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A great podcast on the JonBenet case is Andrew van Der Voort! He has 3 great episodes on this case.
Paul, you and I are a lot alike when it comes to this case, my mom followed this case to the time hearing, whole time she lived, she would cry like me almost everytime, but my mom said before she passed, Idk if they’ll ever find her killer, not in my lifetime she said, I said don’t say that Mom,, but Paul,, doing peoples DNA they can pull up and study until they figured out who’s your dad! So with that technology why is this case not solved?? If it’s money they need to say we’ll start a fund to hire a gynecologist to do this case! They have the DNA right!! What’s the holdup! Thanks so much for this video Paul! I’ll be here for more! I follow your channel Thanks Paul❤
I have an entire shelf in my pantry that is Rip Van snacks, delicious and low sugar. Seeing those in the ad made my day. Also I loved hungry root when I had it.
OMG. I have said to my husband that when I die, I hope there is someone waiting on the other side with a list of answers to all the unsolved mysteries I’ve been obsessed with my whole life!
There absolutely is. I know this from listening to people who have died and been resuscitated. They know the answers to all their life questions. Unfortunately the answers are gone when they are brought back. Fascinating phenomenon. I want to know exactly where arias disposed of the knife. I know it’s in the desert, but where.
@ I will show up in the afterlife with a spreadsheet… where is Maura Murray? Where did Susan Cox Powell’s body get dumped? Was Nicole Kessinger involved in the Watts murders? Who killed Jon Benet? Who actually killed Kaylee Anthony? Who took Madeline McCann? Who is the Zodiac? What happened to the Beaumont children? I can and will go on….
Ah I said this exact thing to my husband after watching that Netflix doc !
I've said this many times. When I get Home, I have so many questions!
Me too, especially the cold case involving my own father's disappearance in Tasmania, Australia in 1992, not long before I turned 14. My younger half sister was nearly 2 years old at the time. He's been a missing person for over 32 years now, and I've finally come to accept that I'm probably never going to get answers in this lifetime. Unfortunately, like so many unsolved cases, there was a completely blundered police investigation involved, which took me many, many years to come to terms with. Even now, I still occasionally have times of extreme anger and frustration toward the police and their gross incompetence.
I really do hope that the answers to all of my questions are waiting for me when I pass away❤
As devastating as having a missing parent can be, I cannot even begin to imagine what it must be like to have a missing child, which is something I could never with on another human.
Paul, I sincerely admire you for your frankness and caution. You’re a very thoughtful and responsible person and it shows.
Yes
Me too. Paul, you have WON MY HARD, cold HEART.
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I was between the Family or recently the Zell brothers theory. It's on RUclips.
I’m also gonna have to “Christina Randall” this video…lol 😂
"Please be kind to everybody everywhere, and especially down in the comment section below."
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@@Stephanie_Ella you already kmow the drill
@@l.c.1816😂😂
Her disclaimer isn’t wrong and we should all abide by it!
I appreciate your commercial being at the top of your video instead of interrupting in the middle. Thank you!!
I think a new investigative team should start from the beginning. Many cold cases are solved by a fresh set of eyes.
@@lindabarrett5631 yep There is over a million pages of evidence so not enuf evidence is not the problem I think one of the many illusions put forward by the Ramseys apart from the bloody intruder theory is its a dna case There was a top DNA expert at the 13mth grand jury hearing but the time has passed now for those charges I think that for all the blocking blaming smoke and mirrors from the Ramsey it will never be solved but I believe the public know in their hearts and are becoming more vocal on it so I think that alone is a punishment whichever of the other 3 people in that house that night will always have over their head and will follow this family forever so did they get away with it .. .or was there another person stayed the night that night not an intruder but a friend of burkes maybe 2s company 3s a crowd I do think it was unintentional Yes
I wonder if that's happened. So many years have passed that it seems like there wouldn't be any original law enforcement still on the job. I haven't heard about that, though.
@VioletJoy new police chief in BPD. He's reopened the cold case. This is why JR is in full deflection mode on NETFLIX, etc.
Been done
They say the family did it
It almost doesn't matter, because the original police/detectives messed it up so bad that even if the real perpetrator was caught and brought to trial, a decent defense attorney could instill reasonable doubt with all the speculation over the decades. GOD KNOWS and his ultimate justice will prevail
In the ransom note, forget the handwriting for a moment. Look at the level of drama, and the excessive length. That is eerily reflective of Patsy.
Or how in an interview John stated the note started "Mr and Mrs. Ramsay" but that was done on another page where the paper was typically in the home and appeared to be the first try
@@thegrimlooper The entire premise that a ransom note would be created at the scene also does not pass the burst out laughing test.
What "Faction" uses the word Attache"?
@@usakiwi1986What group calls themselves a ‘foreign faction’? They ‘respect’ John’s business, but not the country it serves. That sounds like misdirection, don’t look at us. We’re not foreign and John is a respectable business man, who served his country.
@@usakiwi1986Someone obsessed with French....... Like a mother who would name her child Jon Benet.
The Harmony Montgomery case was really hard on me too 💔 I’ve listened and watched a lot of true crime, but that one just really got to me. Absolutely heartbreaking…Incredibly sad. It makes me SICK to think about all the kids and pets that go through that that we don’t know about. May Harmony rest in peace ❤️
Amen. To all that. 😢
I totally agree Harmony's case was so heartbreaking, RIP sweet little girl 💔
@@jessseg4100 Out of all the true crime cases that I have listened to, Harmony's case got to me probably the most. She is with the angels now. 😇
Gannon got me.
@@leemareeh I followed Harmony Montgomery's case from the UK, poor little darling. Harmony was such a beautiful child many parents would have loved this baby as their own. Rip sweetheart ❤️❤️❤️
Love that you mentioned Christina Randall! I’ve been a loyal follower of both y’all since 2019 and I’m still loyal because you’re both fun to watch, super smart, up to date and y’all give such great commentary and info! Much love 💕
Be kind to everyone, everywhere 😊
6:10 “When I leave this earth I want to know what happened to Jonbenet.”
Paul! I have said this myself many times! 🛋️
@@Nurse_Kathy me too!!
I say the same thing I’m going to ask the Good Lord who did it!
Same!!! I NEED to know!
Me too. It's just so sad.
@@Nurse_Kathy Same here! 💖
And it is waaay too long…. Nobody writes a 3 page ransom note, and on a notepad from within the house…
Research Russell Williams.
@janetsmith8566 that isn't comparable to this at all lol
Why do you even suggest that 🙄
Exactly
@@janetsmith8566 That Canadian military serial killer? I don’t remember any kidnapping or a ransom note, but it has been years since I heard about that case. Ugh…it was so creepy!
@@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye Or leaves the girl behind after asking for ransom. WTH??
It’s definitely someone in the house that did it. None of it makes sense for it not to be. How does the kidnapper take the child “for ransom” but never actually takes the child. They kill her in the basement, go back write a 2 page note with the exact amount of money in John’s bonus check but never calls to find out where is the money. They called every friend they had over to the house but no one is actually out looking for the child they are all inside contaminating the crime scene. John doesn’t panic when he finds her. He doesn’t even yell out for police he picks her up and brings her upstairs once again contaminating the crime scene. I could go on and on.
And within half an hour of finding her body, John had called his pilot because he had an "important business meeting" in Atlanta. Even though he _already_ had a flight arranged to Michigan that morning.
He finds her body, and suddenly at 1am he _had_ to make a surprise business meeting in Atlanta. Sure.
It was definitely someone in the house, but who was "IN" the house.
@@bloodyneptune Great point.
Why call 4 sets of friends to come immediately to the crime scene? Any one of them could have been the culprit!
@@jacquelinejacobson6789that’s always been a peculiar point of contention for me- why on earth they called so many people over 🤨
My main issue of inconsistency is john saying she was asleep and he took her straight to bed AND another time he says he read her a bed time story....hmmmm
With the bookin the suitcase?
I have really enjoyed the True Crime Rocket Science RUclips channel’s analysis. He is super thorough and has written three books!
@@jbw0226 I agree! True Crime Rocket is wonderful! Love him!
Probably the best JBR case researcher on You Tube.
But he is kinda overbearing
@@olympiaelda1121 and just too biased for me.
That guy is a plus and more! He has dive deep deep into every single detail, it is worth watching 🥰🥰👊👊
I think it’s incredibly interesting that Patsy still had a full face of makeup on from the night before plus the clothes she was wearing. To me, that says she did not go to bed that night.
She was probably exhausted, and just fell asleep fully dressed. It's happened to me.
Good observation!😮
@@daniellewert6864 I agree. Nothing says it was someone outside the home. They took all night to conjure up and stage the scene.
Maybe she did her makeup before she went downstairs. I'm sure her clothes were expensive clothes and she probably wore them bc she's getting on plane.
Under ordinary circumstances, it would not be any big deal, but these are not ordinary circumstances. Anything out of the ordinary on this particular night stands out.
This case is crazy confusing, and then there was the dance classmate of Jonbenet that had an intruder in her room soon after that the police did not investigate
do you know for sure they did not investigate?
@ it was from the parent’s mouth
@@mariemoller9901It was lightly investigated and there were similarities between JonBenets case and Amys case. Boulder PD wanted to believe it was the Ramseys who killed JBR so they ignored any evidence that pointed to an intruder, so Amy’s case went cold.
I think it was Burke because that is the reason Patsy wrote the note. They wanted to save him. Otherwise, they would have lost both kids. I have followed this case for 20 years. I have had my mind changed b4, though, but as of now, I lean toward Burke.
I think Burke def was the one who struck her and she fell and perhaps hit her head worse and they thought she was dead or she was having some twitching or reaction and they freaked out and John finished off the job with the tourniquet. So save face from having to take her to the hospital and her possibly dying there and then Burke being taken away from them as well. Patsy absolutely wrote the note though. But I feel like there is evidence or at least things that could point to anyone it's so frustrating.
Agreed. I'd like to hear more about the flashlight and the pineapple.
I agree with you 100%
@@Nature-nurtures-us just watch any documentary they will go on depth about it.
Everything I have learned about the wealthy, their rituals, their cr*mes against ch*ldren, and the horrific club that demands loyalty from them, combined with the fact that no one was prosecuted for this cr*me, tells me that this horrific tragedy was part of something so much bigger. Patsy was an emotionally link. She passed away. Many poisons mimic and/or create many diseases. I'm just sayin'. I am ABSOLUTELY not a conspiracy theorist. However, this is how I feel about this case.
Deception Detective really is a gem of a channel!
Typically he does a great job but he has tunnel vision towards Burke and has had that since the beginning of his coverage. Its not a good idea to go in with a target in mind imo
@@kittycaruso50 That’s not accurate, though. He did more than one
analysis before “going all in.”
Morning Paul! We all have a case that means more to us than is healthy. Mine is the Daybell Vallow craziness, and I cannot stop thinking about it to this day. Mormons are my unicorns! 😂
Oh dude that one drives me nuts because there were so many warning signs of how bad it would get and no one stepped in. It breaks my heart for those that died, Tammy and Charles included. Sometimes it feels like those two get left out of the convo :/
Yup mine is the watts case. I have spent way too much time on that one
Hi Donna , What is meant by the term unicorn ? I hear it used often but I do not understand the context. As a woman in her late 60"s , I am not all that hip, lol
Vallow-Daybell, Leticia Stauch, Sarah Boone, Anthony Todt, Ali Albulaban, Ezra McCandless, all of those I will always read, watch, listen, to anything new about them! But, the one that just broke my heart was Jessica Ridgeway
@@DonnaLena1 mines the Chris Watts case
The Lore Lodge channel has been doing a deep dive that's been really interesting. And yes, I love the Deception Detective!
@@ThepupsnameisBrian this dude makes me sick.
I'm not sure he wasn't there the night of the murder
Yes the Lore Lodge videos are great and very in depth!!
Sooo excited to hear your thoughts on this case! Deception detective totally opened up my eyes about JonBenet and Madeline’s cases. I think the person who killed JonBenet was someone the Ramsey’s wanted to protect. It could’ve been one of our three main suspects, a family member or a friend. She could’ve been drugged and killed at the party that night by a creepy friend and the Ramseys decided to protect the person and pretend she was sleeping and then brought her home to begin the coverup. Or it could’ve happened after the party by someone in their house. Whether it was Patsy, John, Burke or even John’s older son (if he was there), I’m not sure. But I also always come back to believing Patsy wrote the letter. So I completely agree that between the three of them, they’ve always known what happened.
@@clairesanightmare JonBenet was alive when she was sexually assaulted, strangled and hit in the head so that theory doesn’t match the evidence but of course you’re entitled to your own opinion.
I have followed this case from the beginning. And, from the beginning I feel in my heart, I didn’t have to be there to know who committed this crime. The ransom note, the behavior at the funeral, the demeanor in interviews and body language, told me everything I needed to know to make up my mind. God, forgive me if I’m wrong. The fact that this case has never been solved, speaks volumes that my belief in who committed this crime is probably correct. RIP JonBonet, God, will bring justice for you one day, baby. 😢
@@donnaconley2417 the brother... The only way any of it makes sense is if it was the brother... And then I don't judge anybody
I used to think Son was eating pineapple and she took some, Son hit her in the head parents covered up. BUT she was SA with paint brush and rope knots etc, I would hope no loving parent could do that to their child to cover up for another child.
He was a weird creepy resentful kid...I don't put any of that past him. It reminds me of that case where the older brother SAd and unalived his little sister to hurt his mom
Yes it was a sexual crime. This was not a coverup of a child killing his sister.
Yeah that's where I am with it. Covering up an accidental death I can see, but those details make it very difficult to believe it was the parents. There was evidence from the post-mortem that she was repeatedly strangled (sorry for the horrible info) which indicates a sexual predator. I know parents can be abusive but I feel there would be other strong indicators if they were that depraved, and that in turn also negates the covering for Burke angle.
@@swhite5840 yes and zero evidence Burke was strong enough to hit her with the force necessary to cause her injuries.
@@swhite5840absolutely. I have two children older boy younger daughter. If my son accidentally killed his sister and i decided it was a good idea to try to cover it up I would NEVER be able to do the things to her that were done to JonBenet. You would need to be an absolute psychopath to do that. If he hit her why not just make it look like she fell down those crazy stairs!
You have accurately described my feelings about this case. It is endlessly fascinating, but will probably never be solved. Here is one thing to consider: Suppose that one of the three (father, mother, son) did something that resulted in JonBenet's death, and the other two colluded to protect that person. Which of these three options is more likely to occur . . . 1-Father and son lie to protect mother. 2-Mother and son lie to protect father. 3- Father and mother lie to protect son. Number 3 is far more likely to have occurred than the other two options, in my opinion. That does not mean that it DID occur. Even though the other two options are much less likely does not mean they could not have occurred, but it is food for thought.
@@phongpit I'm convinced they were trafficking her!
I've always had gur feeling it was the brother in the dining room with the flashlight. I've watched too many cases where the parents will go to great lengths to cover up for their kids. Plus their reactions were too relaxed for me to be genuine.
@@phongpit I don’t agree with you. For the parents to lie and protect the son would require them to put his interests above their own. Both of the parents were selfish, narcissistic and self-centered to a fault.
I’ve always thought this as well - esp with her having pineapple (I think it was 🤔) in the digestive stage that it was…. It seems like the most plausible explanation to me 🤷🏼♀️
One thing I always come back to is they were so concerned with what the public thought of the family and image, accomplishments, and perfection. It almost makes all 3 scenarios equally possible. But it's so hard for me to see them hurt this baby as bad as she was. Then I think of all the fucked up parents. Them not following the instructions from the fucked up letter gets me though. Imo someone else was over or one of them had to do it. John changing stories tho where one places him reading her a story- last to see her makes me wonder too. It's so hard to examine this case. The media has spun it so many ways etc. I hope this little girl gets justice soon.
Yup, the letter is always the ONE thing I feel sure of. Patsy wrote it.
I can’t wait to hear your theory!❤
Same! This case was so botched by the police who had little to no murder crime scene experience. Feels like every year they come out with new info. And nothing changes. Also so creepy those little girl beauty pageants.
I do believe it was someone who had spent time in the house. Knew where paint brushes were, knew where wine cellar was (was tall enough to re-latch lock on top of door)
They had a holiday walk through and a Christmas party so any nosy stranger could have been the culprit.
And knew they would find a pen and paper in a convoluted home, no issue.
And the ransom amount - either it was a child who had no idea what amount would make a kidnapping like this worth the risk, or an adult trying to pin it on a child.
It's all about the ransom note, some body analysts have said that that's the thing the parents had the most visible stress over.
Isn't it very inconvenient to not only have a dead daughter but also a killer son? It would reflect very badly on a pair of narcissistic parents who are concerned with their image.
Just speculating though. But this is the only thing that has made sense to me all along.
@@LiliS319The ransom amount was exactly equal to John's Christmas bonus, which is more evidence that the parents covered something up.
I love when my favorite creators mention my favorite creators. Paul, I think having Deception Detective on would be awesome!
The one haunts me is Gabriel Fernandez. Completely heartbreaking.
God yes, so awful
Oh my goodness, that was such a sad case!.
I am grateful to you Paul that you don't do too many cases which involve children.
Greetings, Paul. Seeing a new video from you first thing in the morning is the best way to start my day. I am looking forward to hearing what you have to say about this awful case. The local police botched this from the very beginning. That poor family. One of the things that we can count on from you is that you don't just put out videos just to have a video put out. You put thought and research into it first. Thank you. ... Hello to Angel Roscoe and hugs to your snugglies. Keep well.
I don’t know if you’ve seen them but Pat Brown has done some videos on this case and I always love watching her perspective on true crime because she works in that field and to me always has sound reasoning for her conclusions
As I was watching the new doc all I could think was "I wish Paul would delve into this one". I fear there never will be justice for this poor child, but you never know.
How have I just only now found your channel? I’ve been obsessed with true crime for my entire adult life. I’ve also been surrounded by family who were as well. My late father was a homicide detective, my late husband was a physician/lawyer like yourself and my late father in law was a Judge. All smartie pants types who would engage with me on all kinds of unsolved true crime. Obviously, they’re not here any longer, but now I’ve found you! Can’t wait to hear your breakdown.
Grief is love continuing - never gonna forget you Roscoe ❤❤❤
Excellent statement. Thank you as I recently lost my Mom.
@@MartiErtel sending you love ❤️ May the positive memories you have with her never fade.
@@jem3848 thank you so much. She is my heart.
Such a true statement!!
@@MartiErtelI’m so sorry you lost your mama! That’s so painful. May God bless you always. ❤
I strongly recommend RUclipsr True Crime Rocket Science. It’s so in depth that your head will spin. Every little detail and every theory is discussed in detail.
I'm with you on that! True Crime Rocket Science does such an amazing job on his channel with his theories.
@ClaireJohnsonart Yeah but just takes you down rabbit holes.
Yes! I've gotten lost for hours watching his JBR content. That man is an expert in the details! No other RUclipsr comes close.
And for another perspective True Crime Garage has several episodes and really stick to the evidence and dive into many theories including the family but not only the family.
I have read every book he has written. He is scary brilliant His bike theory has me thinking today! It would be nice to just have a friendly conversation about Jon Benet.
True Crime Rocket Science, the most authentic voice on the JonBenet case. He even wrote 11 books on the case!
@@kellyjacquin715 agree
Eleven?
hopefully they will have AI re-do their vids. Im sure offliine they have a lovely singing voice, but ... i just cant
They were written in series. He's a little long winded & hesitant to come out & say it because the R's are so litigious. But his work on the case is very good.@SharonFinn-nl9lt
Yea.. exactly....way too many@@SharonFinn-nl9lt
This is absolutely a confusing case! I have a problem with practically every piece of evidence involved coming from within the house so sounds like an inside job. I also wonder about when the Ramsey’s had their house open for a party or something that day, could someone have stayed after the event and hid in the basement until everyone was in bed?
Hey Paul, so glad you are doing this case!! You and I are the same exact age, so I grew up as a young adult watching and listening to this case. It lives rent free in my head, has for years. Glad we have you to start the conversation!
We have to be close to same age, idk how old Paul is but I graduated HS in 99 and this one sticks in my brain too.
The Ramseys lived in this big elaborate house that the intruder, who also knew John’s exact bonus & only asked for it, but also allegedly worked for a foreign faction, knew how to break in without disturbing anything, take his daughter downstairs without alerting anyone…fed her pineapple & also knew where the luggage was to hide her as well as the broken window (that John Ramsey broke). He also wrote out an entire ransom note with their paper & pen, but then left her body in the home?
This is such an obvious fabricated, set-up crime scene. The only reason John Ramsey is free is because of his wealth.
Oh my gosh yes, Harmony breaks my heart
The way you're clear about the fact that none of us really know what happened, we just all have our opinions, is refreshing.
I love your channel! I was “Burke did it” for the longest time. That is until I learned about a string of child murders in the area. Murders of little blonde girls.
Especially one instance where a little girl’s bedroom was broken into and an assault was attempted. The mom intervened and the guy leapt out of their second story window.
- he knew the little girl by name
- the girl went to Jonbenet’s dance studio
- he was described as a heavy smoker, 5’7, wearing a baseball cap backwards, wearing all black
- cig butts were found in the alley behind the Ramseys house that were never tested for DNA
- they lived two miles from
The Ramseys
- he’d been stalking them while squatting in the neighbors above garage apartment
He has never been caught.
Another little Boulder girl was abducted from her school when her mom dropped her off late. The little girl came up against the schools locked doors and the mom didn’t know, providing an opportunity for a perp to abduct her.
She was found murdered off the side of the highway
It’s not that the parents couldn’t have done it, it’s that they’re too smart to have done in in the way that it was.
Whoever killed JB was a sadistic pedo. No doubt.
To note: yes I do agree the Ramseys behavior was suspicious. Maybe they freaked out when they felt like they were targets. Maybe they thought Burke did, maybe he did. But I don’t think so. I was adamant RDI for the longest but… idk.
I don’t know what really happened. I hope it gets solved someday!
Agree w your points. The most important evidence to me is the autopsy showing that she was alive when both potentially fatal wounds occurred ( neck from garrote and blow to the head). She kind of simultaneously had fatal wounds and having petechiae in the eye/cheek area and a head bleed from the blow to the head show that each were done while she was alive. There is no way in my mind that this occurred by any of the family. Staging does not happen while the victim is alive. The only thing I’ve ever heard that made sense is that a pedo ( they do believe they are “in love” and playing a game - at least some subtypes…) did the garrote suffocation one too many times…realized she was minimally breathing and would be a vegetable if she survived at all and did a mercy killing with the blow to the head.
This needs more discussion.
Hard same. Patsy thought Burke did it. I don't think John even knows that she wrote the ransom note, he might suspect, but he doesn't want to believe it.
I also think intruder did it, I think the guy that confessed is actually a reasonable suspect. He wrote in his own yearbook shall be the conqueror and the note was signed similarly
Okay just going to ask how many other sofa squad members wish we lived close enough to babysit those adorable babies
Excited to see what a new generation has to say about this case when watching it with fresh eyes.
GOOD MORMING Paul!! it's 10° in missouri!
SOFA SQUAD STAY SAFE AND WARM ❤❤❤
It is getting to 18° tonight in Bama and I know folks will come after me for it but I love the cold haha. Stay safe too!
Me too. I moved from Louisiana to be in the cold, hehe 🎉🎉
@@lgbfjb1440 im in Rolla, where are you?
I’m soooo glad you’re finally doing a podcast on this! I’m obsessed with this case and cannot believe they’ve never found the murderer considering all the technology we now have. If I die before you I will come to you in a dream and tell you who dunnit!
Agree with everything you said about this case !!! My thoughts go around in circles about it too but I feel the same regarding the Ransom Note...
Thanks for this. I’m 57 & was in one of the same pageants that this little beauty was in( different state & year). This case has always given me the sickest, saddest feeling. I love your channel & content.👏🏼😘
I also cry when I see Harmony. Poor child RIP😢XXX
The podcast “A Normal Family” is absolutely incredible. It’s the only podcast I’ve ever listened to multiple times because it’s the most fascinating and thorough approach to this tragedy that I’ve ever heard - especially over the “ransom letter” - and has analysis I’ve never even considered. Highly recommend!
Where can we watch it? Here?
Yes it’s on You Tube but also iTunes etc
@vivianhall5259 Thanks!
I think of this case as one of the most agreed on true crime cases, among the true crime community. Patsy wrote the note and that's all we can say for sure.
Such a pleasure watching you helping all of us figure out the logical truth. Plus I find you so funny!!!!!
What I found really significant is that John and Patsy's fingerprints were not found on the ransome letter, meaning they never picked up the 3 pages to read it. Not normal behavior of parents who have just lost their daughter to a 'kidnapper'. I think a distraught parent would read and reread that letter if it were a real kidnapping. Pretty clever how Patsy (or anyone) wrote the letter without leaving any fingerprints on it!
So how could they write the note in the first place? I have a feeling that there were heaps of fingerprints on that note because as we know, the cops stuffed up the handling of the crime scene. Maybe the cops SAID there were no fingerprints because their own were all over it! "Oh crap, did you handle it too Sergeant Dumbarse? Let's just say there were no prints on it at all, yeah? Cool. You got another donut handy? You got THAT on the note too? We are in deep shit..."
Can't believe anything the cops said
The ransom note was definitely written by Patsy imo. The style of the "a"s in both the ransom note and Patsy's handwriting switch back and forth.
Came to the comments looking for this one specifically. It's a dead giveaway.
Check out Marcel Elfers analysis & profile of Patsy & the letter.
Totally agree about Deception Detective. I've also been enjoying True Crime Rocket Science's channel - lots of interesting perspectives on the tiniest details.
I’m so happy to listen at work! Miss your long videos but wishing you and your loved ones a happy new year. Oh and I think I speak for all your listeners, We love you talking about ANY and all cases! ❤
True Crime Garage (podcast) finally changed my mind when it came to this case, after years of going by what the media stories said & what seemed to me to be obvious.
To me it comes down to the autopsy, the extensive and severe petichial hemorrhaging, particularly in her eyes, which means she was not bashed in the head first. She was strangled first, which points to a child predator. I think it may have been someone the fam knew from that goofy church...there were many creepy dudes with predatory histories towards children that were part of that whole group. Also some very creepy photographers.
There's been enough money for Parabon to do IG, no reason for them not to have solved this already besides Boulder flat out refusing to. Their tunnel vision is the reason it's been stagnant. They refuse to do any further testing, which is extremely... po-dunk to me.
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The Zell brothers have been studying the case for decades and say there were at least 4 pedo rings in the area and that crazy church was full of pedo "elites"
It was Burke. He was the predator.
Love their series on this! They focus on the timeline (as much as possible), the evidence and many different theories than we’ve ever heard instead of sticking with just the family.
Agree, I recently changed my mind and feel like it was someone from outside the family. But I think John and Patsy always knew who it was and knew JonBenet was being sexually abused. That's what they were really trying to cover up.
@@kristenrubymoonyou don't know that.
Thank you for covering this case!
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This is the first time I’ve come across your Video’s and I’ve already subscribed, you’re a breath of fresh air on here, I literally love the way you present yourself and the case, so much energy and so entertaining as well as informative. Love it!
I totally believe Burke did it and the parents covered it. So damn sad. This little girl deserved so much better than the life she got. ❤
PAULLLL YEASSSSSS. I literally change my mind every time I hear something on this one. And I fall deep down these rabbit holes it’s exhaustinggggggg
What I'm fascinated by are the police failures. Has anyone ever been held accountable in that police department?
Nope!
The first detective there did not secure the crime scene, move the body twice covered it and just let the head stick out so mom could throw herself on her baby, Didn’t make anyone leave let everybody keep walking around. She should’ve been fired I get that it was a holiday and there weren’t many people around but sending the family to go look for something in the house is ridiculous.
Look into the local DAs office at the time and the one that followed. That's who blocked this investigation literally from day one. The cops had no chance to do their job.
That joke of a police dept run by the keystone cops.
DA stonewalled the case, nothing to see here folks
This is so refreshing! I, too, go back and forth. Thank you for sharing.
I believe the parents either definitely did it or they know who did for a couple reasons. One of the main reasons was that if their daughter were truly kidnapped, why leave your other child sleeping alone in the other room in that huge mansion? As a parent, my other children would be glued to my hip. I believe they purposely contaiminated the scene. Even patsy spoke about the oj case on a talk show...so they clearly followed that case which was big on a contaiminated crime scene.
Wow great point about if they were concerned for the brother they wouldn't have left him "sleeping" in that huge house with a potential kidnapper around
@whims6278 yes! I just try to think of it as a parent my self. What I would and would not do. That really stuck out.
When the police asked Burke if he was scared the murderer would come back, he said he wasn't, which is extremely unusual for a child whose sibling has been murdered. That plus the blunt force trauma and the pineapple in her stomach makes me think he killed her accidentally, and the parents covered it up because they didn't want to lose both kids.
Oh I completely agree with this. I think the parents were actually allowing adults to spend inappropriate time with her in return for cash and things went too far on accident. I think this is why the father and mother were always so vehemently denying it was Burke, because they know better than anyone how much it was their fault what happened to their daughter. Patsy was an evil lady!
If they were going to claim she was kidnapped, they would have removed her body before calling the police.
I know what happened... the police effed it up from the get and kept effing it up to this day
My past few years of consuming true crime content I have learned one thing: women very often stand by their man. Be it husband or son, grandson(s), son-in-law, boyfriend. I agree that the letter was likely written by Patsy.
I understand and have empathy for what you said at the beginning. All the speculation will never take away the fact that this sweet little girl's last moments were horrific. That's what hurts the most. She deserved to have a full happy life. Breaks my heart.
I think Patsy lost her cool and accidentally killed her. The note is the biggest indicator.
Not Patsy. Burke. He was known to have anger issues and fecophilia, and their parents had a golden child/scapegoat dynamic with them. Patsy wrote the note to cover for him because she didn't want to lose both her children in one day.
I think she snatched a piece of Burke's precious pineapple so he hit her in the head with the big maglight. Patsy and John covered it up. The Grand Jury got it right... the DA refused to go ahead. He and John Ramsey's lawyer are BFFs.
So why the 911 phone call where she is heard saying. “What did you do?”
@@verynice126talking to herself possibly.
You describe how I feel about this case. I initially was for years no way the mom or dad or brother did it. Then I had a decade where I thought nope the mom and dad did it or cover up for the son. Then I went back to nope. And now I just feel Jon Bennett will always be a victim. Victim of who ever killed her, a victim of the system who didn't give her justice.
RIP little one. I hope someday we get Justice for you.
Good morning Paul I am looking forward to every video you put out about this case thanks for all you do
CONTINUED - the two things I need to know, and as many hours I have spent researching them, I still find multiple different answers: is there evidence of long term SA? For every no I have found 2 yesssses AND did the head injury happen before or after death? Without those two questions being answered with fact, I can’t settle on a road to go down.
Different Dr's came to different conclusions about the SA.
It also appears the SA was not human contact but an object?
The history of uti's & something like 100 Dr visits by age 6 is concerning, however. So it seems their family Dr may have turned a blind eye.
@ I know!!!! I went through hours of reading and it seemed like no one agreed on the history of abuse. One guy even discussed the Hyman’s condition but there were so many factors that could have impacted its condition. One out of my three daughters had reoccurring UTIs that faded over time. Couldn’t find any reason for it, just a thing so I get it. Is her health record public? Because I know there were many visits for various things. But Patsy went through cancer…being a hypochondriac towards your children is not uncommon after something like that. My two daughters age difference is the same as Burke and JonBenet, even though it wasn’t my first, having that 4 yr difference made it feel like my first kid and I did go to the dr for every goose egg and fall. I pay for insurance so why the hell not???
This is why I love you. You literally put exactly how I feel into the words I can’t figure out how to explain!☺️ each theory has validity for me and I’m convinced I’ll never have the answers for this case. So weird
Deception, detective expressly rules out body language analysis as a valid science
Body language analysts are frauds
I’ve believed that Patsy did this from the very beginning. I also have never talked about it. Never watched any RUclips channel until yours.
I believe it's not a family member. And I feel it will never be solved because of the police blunders.
Same
Do you think an intruder wrote that ransom note? That note doesn’t make any sense, But everything else seems possible it was an intruder.
I'm snowed and iced in. Sooo glad for this Paul. ❤
Patsy wrote the 3 page letter, no doubt, so she was covering for herself or another family member. The Ramsey’s refused to interview with the police for months, and then only did so with lots of conditions. They gave media interviews on channels like CNN to get their side out before talking to police. John Ramsey hired separate lawyers for himself, Patsy, Burke, his ex wife, and both of the children from his 1st marriage. Even John’s kids in Atlanta refused to speak to police. The Ramsey’s hired PR people (he denies this but is lying), pressured and used their connections to get special treatment. The Ramsey’s sued everyone who made accusations against them. They sued CBS for 250 million, they basically sued the media to stop talking about them. That’s why the new so called “documentary” was done in connection with John Ramsey, showing his side, better to do that than risk being sued. John Ramsey has twisted the facts so much, what you hear in the Netflix doc are NOT the true unbiased facts.
I'm so down for this series from you! For alot of us true crime doc. OG's, this is one of the cases that got us so into the genre. And with your knowledge of the case, we know it will be a deep dive!
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Good morning Paul and our little angel Rosco 🐾🐾🌈🕊️and our little Beau and Luke 🐾🐾🐶💙🐾🐾🐶💙. I guess what I wonder is why in the world if they were covering up for somebody why would they do what they did to her??? Just sickening 😢 I can't imagine it! I don't know!!!!!
I can’t believe that anyone would go to commit a crime totally unprepared. The fact that such a long “ransom” letter was written using paper and pen from the house doesn’t make any sense. Such a specific amount of money doesn’t make sense. The fact that the police searched the house and couldn’t find her. But, John found her immediately doesn’t make sense. It seems to me it had to be an inside job. I do think Patsy wrote the letter in an attempt to cover up who did it. I just can’t decide who I think actually murdered her. I have a theory on someone who may have harmed her beyond recovery but may not be the person who ended her. I don’t think justice will ever be served and that not only makes me sad but also furious.
I think it was someone who knew them and hated them
I'm so glad you're covering this case! I'm excited to hear your opinions!
Every time you say the pineapple it feels like a fever dream. But again this whole case feels bad. Thanks for your input Paul!
I believe Patsy wrote the ransome note 💯 percent. John knows what happened. He needs to come clean. Enough is enough.
The fresh pineapple in her stomach always makes me wonder what happened. And the fact that only Patsy and Burke’s fingerprints were on the pineapple bowl and glass. JonBenet supposedly didn’t have any, and was put straight to bed, so their story doesn’t make sense. (None of them do, tbf)
The other thing that bugs me is the two marks on her body that supposedly came from a taser. Or was it the train track from Burke’s train set?
But I agree, the parents are just too fishy to be completely innocent. I think they must know what happened.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID 🙌 I follow everything about this case, it would be amazing if after all these years it could finally be solved...but everytime I watch something I start going down that road a little and it just causes more and more questions and possibilities everytime
The only thing I'm confident in with this case is that Patsy Ramsay wrote that ransom letter. No clue why/when, but she's the one who wrote it.
I agree with everything you just said! Very complicated case. I just found your channel and I'm looking forward to hearing your analysis. True Crime Rocket Science takes a really deep dive into the this case too.
After watching the Netflix documentary and seeing her injuries, it moved me away from her mom completely especially since there was male DNA found. I do believe it was someone who knew them though. Prayerfully one day, it will be solved.
Netflix did not do a good job with this
Excellent commentary. I’ve gone over this case in mind so many times. I always thought the money amount was suspicious. So many things don’t add up.
That's always been my clue, that note! They cleared out the entire family! Fine, but that specific amount says it all! The person who did such crime is close to the family!
I’ve always believed it was Burk.
John and Patsy covered it up so they didn’t “lose” both children
I agree. I think he hit her hard with the black flashlight 🔦
It's easier on your psyche to blame JonBenet's murder on a child instead of on an adult like yourself.
The Ramsey’s had Christmas 🎄 Open Houses for the community. I believe the intruder scoped out the house then and maybe stayed hiding in the house for awhile.
One theory is that Burke had a friend sleep over and planned to go on their trip with them (Burke constantly had a friend over to play with, I personally believe to keep Buke entertained and occupied to keep him from fighting and picking on Jon Benet) just my belief from studying this case. My theory is the Stine boy. The last family friends house they stopped at that night. Something happened between the two boys and jonbenet accidentally and Both parents had a part in covering. They had to cover because a family friends son was there, involved and implicated as well. The boy left on Burkes Bike that night and went back to his house which was not that far away. The Stines were not called to come over that day she was found, even though they were the closest friends. And the closeness of their frienship was downplayed to LE after. In crime scene photos you can notice two soda cans in burkes sink. We can start from the beggining and still wont be able to get full justice because so much was lied about, covered up and convoluted purposley. A mixture of miniscule dna wont bring any real answers. The "pagentry" of it all. Allegedly just a theory. We're probably wrong. 🤔
Snow was too deep that day to ride a bicycle, especially in that part of Boulder.
@@aliquot8404Not correct. There was patches of snow. There's even crime scene photos of outside of the home and there's bicycle tracks in the snow. Although it was stated JonBenet rode her bike earlier in the day before they left for dinner at friends house.
Hi Paul, Bo, & Luke! ❤
Love your videos. Have you ever looked into the story of Kyron a young boy who disappeared in Oregon after his step mother claimed she dropped him at school?
That is a heartbreaking case. We know who (probably) did it. Allegedly.
Have been waiting for you to dive down this rabbit hole. Have watched so much footage, interviews, movies....I have lots of thoughts but will post tomorrow
From the start I just wanted to tell you Paul… I think a lot of people our age are crazy invested in this case but we were so scared and confused over the years we tend to keep everything to ourselves…
EDIT: Paused at 18:29 I have considered and my gut says Burke did it, John & Patsy covered for him. They shielded him so much from the police at jump it’s so suspicious. However like you say there has yet to be enough evidence to truly call anyone out or place anyone as a suspect.