Bishop Barron your explanation of this great mystery is truly enlightening. I adopt the explanation of St Augustine. However, even that falls short so I respect your final statement that in the end we need to simply surrender to this great mystery. I surrender to the profound threefold mysteries of the Trinity, the Incarnation and the Resurrection.
This mystery is one of the things that makes Biblical revelation more convincing. It makes sense that the divine would be beyond human comprehension, and it points to the conclusion that the Bible is not merely a product of men.
Finally-the Trinity explained in a manner that I understand. I surrender to the great mystery. Thank you Bishop Barron for your sense of humor, insight and wisdom; especially your willingness to reach us all. God’s Blessings to you!
I add to your comment. At last one definition that for a moment I understood. It has gone, but satisfying to me to know that for a moment I understood the Trinity. And now, it is a mystery, the curtain was drawn back, I glimpsed and now it is gone. That is the way of God and I don’t argue with that.
Trinity is a Farsi word " سه گانگی - se-ghanegy " which means "[concept of] three [owners]". Father is the builder and the original owner of the house [there was no divorce and the mothers were automatically co owners with fathers), Sons will inherit the property to protect the mother and other siblings when the father is too old or is dead. Daughters were getting married and co-owned their husband's property. The Holy is " خالی - khali '' which means when the property is vacant and the word Spirit is " از بین رفت - az-bain-raft " which means building that is in ruins or was destroyed, in this state the Church will take ownership of the property and use it for single women, children and elders with no support. In the Concept of Trinity, God is the landlord. The Trinity was the base of the entire Christian and Western Civilization. The Council of Nicaea formalized Trinity as the official rule of the land and Constantin centralized and unified registering the properties (issuing deeds) and recording their owners' names, to that date registering and recording was done by local real estate agents and escrow companies of the time dominated by jews who were abusing and trafficking and abusing women and children who needed food and home. Virgin Mary means that Mary the mother of Jesus was a Virgin when married to Joseph, her virginity entitled her and Joseph to the ownership of the land and ability to pass the home to their son Jesus.
I am not a Christian or a religious person at all. I would describe myself as agnostic and secularist. But I've always considered the mystery of the Trinity as the most attractive aspect of the Christian religion. It's often attacked by non-believers as something silly that makes no sense, but I've never felt that way at all. I see the Trinity as an exercise in humility. It's a way of acknowledging that if God is what we think it is-the infinite and almighty entity that created reality itself-then it is silly and arrogant to assume limited creatures could fully grasp its nature. Creatures being bewildered by the reality of God makes sense to me, and I think Christians are the ones who acknowledge that the best.
Dear bonbon_ann, that is beautiful! We Christians believe that God the Father mysteriously revealed Himself through Jesus Christ, with the love that is the Holy Spirit.
Now...Yours, Lord, and ME is the greatness, power, glory, majesty, and splendor, for everything in heaven and hell is yours. Yours, Lord, and ME is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all K😇
Yes, Bishop. When I pray I just pray through faith it is like my parents. My parents are the breadwinner, our care taker and our loved ones. It is just 2 person but they become different "role" in our lives that is how I see the Holy Trinity. When I project an image in my mind I imagine that God who is a beginning when he made the universe and all the glorious entity Resting on Jesus Christ's head and heart and the Holy Spirit, who sometimes become a dove or very omnipresence who makes me feel good when I pray.
Rarely as much as I like utube videos do a return to one. I did with this. I have been subjected to homilists my entire life and never did I hear so great an explanation of the Trinity
Yours, Lord, is the greatness, power, glory, majesty, and splendor, for everything in heaven and earth is yours. Yours, Lord, is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all K
“Bless the Lord oh my soul…” for your gift of Bishop Barron! In all my (83) years as a Catholic Christian, these analogies of the Holy Trinity are the best explanations yet. Thank You Bishop Barron for all the Joys and Love of God you continually bring into my life through the MASS! 🙏🏼✝️✨🕊️
"Catholic Christian" is an oxymoron. You either follow (listen to, obey, imitate) Christ OR the pope. You cannot follow both, especially because they contradict each other. Further, popes *steal* titles from God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. "Holy Father" is a title used ONCE in the entire Bible and it's when Jesus uses it to address God in John 17:11. If that doesn't make you tremble, then I tremble for you. And Scripture says JESUS is the head of the church (Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 12). The pope is called "head of the church" in the RCC. And he's called "vicar of Christ" (a title first used by Pope Gelasius in the 5thC). That means the same as "representative" and is the phrase used about the HOLY SPIRIT in the early church, referencing Jesus's words in John chapters 14 thru 17, especially John 14:16-17. Unless you renounce the RCC and follow Christ ALONE (i.e don't jump straight into any Protestant denomination: God will LEAD you to a fellowship of true believers) you will never receive the fullness of a relationship with Jesus. Jesus is returning for his BRIDE (the church i.e ekklesia in the Greek New Testament meaning "called-out people"). Anyone who follows others as well as Christ (popes, denominations, traditions, Luther, Calvin, Ellen White, Joseph Smith, Barron...) is seen by Jesus as being in spiritual adultery.
Forget science, forget the discussions, forget all the nonsense you have ever heard about God. Listen to this human being, open your heart, uncover the mystery, and you'll see who really God is. HE IS. IS HE. Bishop Barron is a divine miracle for this century. Thank you God.
@@grmalinda6251Yes, from a human perspective. Mystery, from a Theological point of view, is a truth, above and beyond all human reason, but revealed by God
The finest explanation of The Trinity that I have ever heard based on 3 amazing approaches! God Bless you, Bishop Barron, for sharing these 3 ways for us to “surrender to the Mystery of the Holy Trinity”. 🙏🙏🙏
Commit an act of theology❤😂 I love this good man’s sense of humor. Lord, please protect him as he leads us through the valley of the shadow of theology. ❤
The brilliance of Trinity shines forth from the bishops homily in a way that endures our search to understand God, the unique relationship he wants us to have with him and the endless depth of his being. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Good rewind: "understanding...or at least not understanding, beginning to get a sense of what the Trinity is about". 3 Templates are profound. But at the end of the day, Knowing/understanding GOD's fullness is beyond human comprehension. And that's acceptable.
Thank you, Excellency!. I just knew that you would have a sermon that would help to explain this great mystery that is the Blessed Trinity. This morning at Mass, I watched our poor priest try to explain it, and as much as he tried to explain it, as deeply as I listened to his words, only a faint picture came into my mind. It was along the lines of something that I heard you explain in your Catholicism series I believe...that God the father 'breathed forth' the Son, that the Son gazed upon the Father and the love that both had for each other was so vast that it expressed itself as the Holy Spirit. I have kept that image all these years. But now, with this sermon, you have helped my mind to peer more deeply into this mystery which is our God. I know that I will never be able to fully grasp this mystery here on earth, but I now can see more clearly what I am worshipping. God bless you, Bishop Barron!
You said Bishop: “God said, I am who I am”, “To be God is to be, to be.” “God is closer to us than ourselves”, “God knows us much more than we know ourselves”. If so, the Trinity is easy to understand, if we do not understand. My relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is unique for each and at the same time, deep within me, always see them as One.
Wonderful illustration, how do you present it to a friend that is Pentecostal when they come back at you with this. We believe God is the Father, he created us, Jesus the Son is god man in flesh and we believe in the Holy Spirit, the presence and power of God. If they are 3 persons are there going to be 3 bodies in heaven. No they have 3 roles that are necessary for our salvation. allow me to explain. Only a true human could die for our sins and could take our place and shed his blood. So Jesus had to be the Son of God in order to die for our sins, but in order for the Son to be born, no human could do that, God had to be the Father of that baby born in the womb of a virgin and then salvation is not just because of what happened 2000 years ago. It has to be applied to our lives today. How does that happen God comes to us in his Spirit. So God's not eternally 3 persons named Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but God has operated in our lives as Father, Son, and Spirit for the specific purpose of redeeming us, or saving us from our sins. So with that as a background 3 persons but 1 God would be a distortion because it interjects this idea that in the nature of God there is some distinction, or separation, or division which is not practical for these reasons, who are we praying to we need to know for sure, are we praying to 1, or are we praying to 3. When we get to heaven who are we going to see 1, or we going to see 3, that makes a difference who is our faith in and the significance of the name of Jesus we need to understand because when we pray in Jesus name we expect demons to be cast out ( Mark 16:17 ); ( Luke 8:26-39 ); ( Acts 19: 13-17; 16:16-19 ;8:9-22 ), and people to be delivered and healed ( Matthew 9: 2, 22 ) ( Acts 3:6; 19:11,12 ); ( Mark 16:18 ) , and receive the Holy Spirit ( John 20 :22 ); (acts 2:4,2:38 ; 8:12; 19:2-7 ); ( 1 Corinthians 2:14 ). But if the emphasis is on Father, Son, and Holy Spirit then the name of Jesus is not magnified and we don't receive from God what he wants to give us. So there are a lot of practical reasons why we need to know the answer to this question and if there is any message in scripture that is emphasized is that God is 1 that's stated in ( Deuteronomy 6:4 ) Hear o Israel the Lord your God is 1 Lord, reiterated by the Lord Jesus in ( Mark 12:29 ). This 1 you got to get right .
As always, pure genius! Bishop Barron sheds such inspiring light on all things Catholic. I'm in awe of his wisdom, understanding, and knowledge. God bless you, Bishop! Thank you for sharing your insights.
Bishop Barrons ability to explain these deep and so often misunderstood concepts of God is what helped me convert to catholicism. These same concepts are at the heart of other great religions about the same one God , and one great mystery.
I want to tell you the fascinating story about when the Trinity verse was added to the Bible. This is a well-documented fact, detailed in "Whose Word Is It?: The Story Behind Who Changed the New Testament and Why" by Professor Bart Ehrman, an expert in biblical textual criticism. In the 16th century, Erasmus, a Dutch scholar, produced the first printed edition of the Greek New Testament. The New Testament was originally written in Greek, but had been translated into Latin over the centuries. Erasmus aimed to create a critical scholarly edition based on Greek texts, relying mainly on late medieval manuscripts from the 12th century. Erasmus’s edition of the Greek New Testament was later used by the translators of the King James Bible and other versions until the end of the 19th century. However, the Greek manuscripts Erasmus used were not of high quality and were produced about eleven hundred years after the originals. For example, his main manuscript for the gospels included the story of the woman taken in adultery and the last verses of Mark, which were not part of the original gospels. One key passage missing from Erasmus’s manuscripts was 1 John 5:7-8, known as the Johannine Comma, which explicitly supports the doctrine of the Trinity. This passage is found in Latin Vulgate manuscripts but not in the majority of Greek manuscripts. The King James Version includes this verse: "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one." Bart Ehrman notes, "The Greek manuscripts that Erasmus used were not of the best quality... produced some eleven hundred years after the originals." Erasmus did not find this verse in any Greek manuscripts he consulted, so he omitted it from his first edition. This omission outraged theologians of his time, who accused him of tampering with the text. Erasmus reportedly agreed to include the verse in future editions if a Greek manuscript containing it could be produced. Consequently, a Greek manuscript was created in the 16th century, likely by translating the Latin text into Greek. Despite his reservations, Erasmus included the verse in subsequent editions. These editions formed the basis for the King James Bible and other translations for centuries. The phrase "Textus Receptus" refers to this widely accepted form of the Greek text, despite its reliance on inferior manuscripts. Modern textual scholars now insist on using older and better manuscripts to base the Greek New Testament on scientific principles. The Textus Receptus, though still revered by some fundamentalists, is based on late medieval manuscripts, whereas earlier manuscripts, such as the Codex Sinaiticus, do not contain the Johannine Comma or other later additions. Ehrman explains, "This passage... states the doctrine directly and succinctly," but it "was not in Erasmus's primary manuscript or in any of the others that he consulted." This realization challenges the solid basis for the Trinity doctrine in the Bible, making it difficult for some Christians to accept.
Did I hear you right about a trinity verse added to the Bible ???? Read what it says about adding to the Bible Revelation 22:18 in the NAB . Remember the Bible was translated from Greek and Hebrew 1nce , are you saying they got it wrong , or are you using ARTISTIC LICENSE to get your point across
Absolutely loved Bishop Barron’s elucidation of the Trinity 👍 Every Sunday should be Trinity Sunday, since it has been neglected, to the point where God has been reduced to just Jesus. If we lose sight of the Trinity, we lose sight of God. The Trinity as a communion of persons expressed as Speaker, the Word spoken, and the speech shared underlines God as relationship. It could also be said that there is a speaker, a listener, and the breath, since no speech is possible without breath. There is also the Giver, the giver of thanks for the gift, and the generosity and spirit of the gift. Another way of looking at it is: the Mystery or the mythical, the prophetic or the prophetic path, and the energy of spirit in action in the world. As Bishop Barron said, the Trinity really is fundamentally real. Once you see the pattern, you begin to see it everywhere. From the mysterious silence of the One, comes the Word or Logos, which would not be a relationship without the Spirit. Within the Trinity, you have the three faces of God; the 1-2-3 of God that, incidentally gives rise to the Fibonacci number series, which shows up as patterns within nature, and from which we get the Golden Mean, as well as spirals. (I could go off on a tangent about the many spirals in nature and that the pattern of evolution is a spiral, combining both the cyclical and the linear. ) The very cosmos bears the imprint of the Trinity, which shows up everywhere; think protons, neutrons, and electrons; positive, negative, and neutral electrical wires; solids, liquids, and gases; nouns, verbs, and the descriptive adjectives and adverbs; thesis, antithesis, and synthesis at a higher level than that of the opposites. We also bear the image of the Trinity, since there is no “I” without a “we,” and since it is impossible to exist as a person without other people. The Trinity opens immense vistas onto the divine. My special thanks to Bishop Barron for his interesting, insightful, and inspiring talk on the Trinity.
I agree with a lot of what you say and believe that science has proven the existence of God. If Plato or Descartes or any of the brilliant thinkers of history had knowledge of the Big Bang beyond theory, they would have worked it all out by now. With regards to trinity in nature, you might also consider length, width, height; sine, cos, tan; psychology (Id, Ego, Superego); and universal dimensions beyond L,W,H (our perceptual trinity) to include the trinity of subatomic structure (molecular, atomic, quark) and universal (solar system, galaxy, universe.) I would personally like to hear your tangent on spirals and the golden mean, which will probably include fractiles, but I don't know how the Fibonacci sequence and spirals in general fit within a trinity polarity dualistic structure.
The reflection of himself. Bishop Barron is a modern Doctor of the Church and has such an amazing Ministry, I sure hope the Cardinals and the Pope play close attention to his brilliant theological mind and soul thats full of God's Love just as he explained.
Something that has me so confused, If in Matthew it says to call no one Rabbi or Father why do we call men Fathers of the church? I'm not implying their impact and there usage by God to be a vessel, but why do Catholics (universal) call men Father; say to a man "forgive me Father for I have sinned", asking a man for forgiveness. I am lost on where this comes from. I am lost on where a Pope gets such authority; it doesn't keep me away from God but it does keep away from the building now called a church. We do have modern day Pharisees and Sadducees do we not? Those people with that type of mindset weren't done away with were they?
I also have had the same thought about Jesus's admonition regarding the use of the title of father. Priests are Jesus's special workers so perhaps that is why we call them father. Is this legalistic thought?
Bishop Barron, how wonderful to hear this exquisite rendering of the Trinity! Full and robust words to paint a picture which will, forever evoke a beautiful vision for me. Thank you!
The way I understand the Holy Trinity is that God the Father is Love. God the Son is Forgiveness and God the Holy Spirit is the Act of the Father's Love and the Son's Forgiveness in my heart, leading me to be more loving and more forgiving, if I believe and follow as I should. I know that I truly do not understand. But for me, this is God. God bless
Well it makes sense but our small minds just have to have faith in the trinity. Thanks Father for explaining it in a little more detail. God bless you in Jesus name.
Thank you Bishop Barren for the profound and complex explanation of the Holy Trinity. I need to listen a numerous times to grasp the essence of your homily
🔥🔥🔥Come, Holy Spirit, come Transform our faith, hope and love. Ps 33:22, Mt 28:19 Jesus came up and spoke to them. He said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,’ 😇 the Most Holy Trinity, we love You!❤️
Love the way God is the epitome of being the relational. He is relational to Himself, to his Word spoken, and is interpreted divinely through us in the Trinity. Happy Trinity Sunday everyone! 🙏🏻
God bless you Bishop Robert Barron. In general your homilies are always so interesting to listen to and now in particular about the Trinity. You can explain this mystery in a beautiful way that many Catholics can understand. Well , all Christian’s. Have listen to several other priests and there theological answer is. We don’t understand. It’s a mystery. It’s great to have you that have the knowledge and excellent way of explaining. Pax in Christo et Marie 🙏🏻🕊️🙏🏻 2:41
In the context of Proverbs 12:25, Solomon points out in this verse that worry is not a small burden. The cares of this world can weigh heavily on the heart and cause a person to despair or feel depressed. However, a kind word, a word of encouragement, can lift his drooping spirit and cheer him up. Yeah, 40 years in 🐕 training... Our Lady of Lourdes, pray for us.
Thank you. I have not really struggled with the Trinity. However, I can not say I really understood, especally the relationship aspect. St. Agustine's example is vital in my spiritual life.
I can't seem to flee from trauma and drama, but I sure find God in the regular world and Mass. And when I'm really worried, I address God as God, because He's three in One divine nature. I appreciate the way that you teach us this. Latin understood, here.
I understand more now by your talks on the Trinity than ever before. It's awesome and beautiful and so amazing to listen to the words here. There's nothing I would rather choose to do right now then recline and enjoy this homily and your amazing explanation. Then I began to wonder(as my mind so often does). How many Saints in Heaven did'nt know so much of this information or how to view Three Persons in One God, The Trinity? And left it to Mystery. Then Mystery is Good too. I love The Mysteries of our Faith and I love the homilies! Thank you, Bishop Barron!! I love learning new things about the Faith and much of the time I believe I equally love to, leave it to Mystery.❤
God is love, thus a relationship of persons within Himself. I told that to a Protestant friend with an atheist present & their minds were blown. Mine was too the first time the Holy Spirit told it to me in contemplation. I love the Holy Spirit. He is more real to me than anything in this world. I'll never understand how Bishop Barron knows so much! Seems like all great people do. The breadth of sheer knowledge & wisdom is astounding. All the best psychologists are Catholic.
Understanding relationship - “I slept and dreamt that life way joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold service was joy.” A quote from Rabindranath Tagore.
Thanks for helping to bring clarity to the Divine Mystery of the Holy Trinity. The three templates are really helpful. Bishop, your sermons have become my 'go-to' for nourishing my faith.
I’m almost certain my priest listened to this sermon, to help him with his. Also, of all the people I read/watch, Bishop Barron is the one that causes me to look up words. This week, it was “chthonic”. Thank you for being such a great help and guide, and not talking down to your enormous flock.
Deuteronomy 31:8 "Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you"
Learning the Greek 'parakletos' (to call over) and the Latin 'advocatus' (call toward) really helped me. How often I sense a nudging, prompting or prodding to move in a certain direction after my daily prayers. With the gift of discernment and wisdom, I can attribute it to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Abba!
Judith Moore Very well explained. Robert is always worth listening to, indeed he has a divine gift in sharing the gospel in a understanding and well examined manner.
No matter how much I refresh my RUclips page, your channel will always remain in my RUclips page. So I started watching your videos. They are great.
Bishop Barron your explanation of this great mystery is truly enlightening. I adopt the explanation of St Augustine. However, even that falls short so I respect your final statement that in the end we need to simply surrender to this great mystery. I surrender to the profound threefold mysteries of the Trinity, the Incarnation and the Resurrection.
Thank you for helping to illuminate us to this great Mystery- the Triune God! God bless you!!
This mystery is one of the things that makes Biblical revelation more convincing. It makes sense that the divine would be beyond human comprehension, and it points to the conclusion that the Bible is not merely a product of men.
Thanks Bishop Barron for the confidence in your audience to comprehend a theological discussion of doctrine. I look forward to more.
Finally-the Trinity explained in a manner that I understand. I surrender to the great mystery. Thank you Bishop Barron for your sense of humor, insight and wisdom; especially your willingness to reach us all. God’s Blessings to you!
Glory and praise be to God 'Father, Son and the Holy Spirit'✨🙏
I add to your comment. At last one definition that for a moment I understood. It has gone, but satisfying to me to know that for a moment I understood the Trinity. And now, it is a mystery, the curtain was drawn back, I glimpsed and now it is gone. That is the way of God and I don’t argue with that.
Astounding insight. Many thanks!
Very helpful…thank you
Trinity is a Farsi word " سه گانگی - se-ghanegy " which means "[concept of] three [owners]".
Father is the builder and the original owner of the house [there was no divorce and the mothers were automatically co owners with fathers),
Sons will inherit the property to protect the mother and other siblings when the father is too old or is dead. Daughters were getting married and co-owned their husband's property.
The Holy is " خالی - khali '' which means when the property is vacant and the word Spirit is " از بین رفت - az-bain-raft " which means building that is in ruins or was destroyed, in this state the Church will take ownership of the property and use it for single women, children and elders with no support.
In the Concept of Trinity, God is the landlord.
The Trinity was the base of the entire Christian and Western Civilization.
The Council of Nicaea formalized Trinity as the official rule of the land and Constantin centralized and unified registering the properties (issuing deeds) and recording their owners' names, to that date registering and recording was done by local real estate agents and escrow companies of the time dominated by jews who were abusing and trafficking and abusing women and children who needed food and home.
Virgin Mary means that Mary the mother of Jesus was a Virgin when married to Joseph, her virginity entitled her and Joseph to the ownership of the land and ability to pass the home to their son Jesus.
And now I finally get the logic of the Filioque, thanks Bishop Barron and Saint Agustin.
Thank you. Im glad you are here bishop barron.
Brilliant act of theology, thank you Bishop
Awesome job Bishop Barron breaking it down for us so beautifully 🙏🙏🙏
I am not a Christian or a religious person at all. I would describe myself as agnostic and secularist. But I've always considered the mystery of the Trinity as the most attractive aspect of the Christian religion. It's often attacked by non-believers as something silly that makes no sense, but I've never felt that way at all. I see the Trinity as an exercise in humility. It's a way of acknowledging that if God is what we think it is-the infinite and almighty entity that created reality itself-then it is silly and arrogant to assume limited creatures could fully grasp its nature. Creatures being bewildered by the reality of God makes sense to me, and I think Christians are the ones who acknowledge that the best.
Dear bonbon_ann, that is beautiful! We Christians believe that God the Father mysteriously revealed Himself through Jesus Christ, with the love that is the Holy Spirit.
This was great - listened a week late - and esp your final comment - we can never understand fully…! Gif bless!
Now...Yours, Lord, and ME is the greatness, power, glory, majesty, and splendor, for everything in heaven and hell is yours. Yours, Lord, and ME is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all K😇
best one of all time
Yes, Bishop. When I pray I just pray through faith it is like my parents. My parents are the breadwinner, our care taker and our loved ones. It is just 2 person but they become different "role" in our lives that is how I see the Holy Trinity. When I project an image in my mind I imagine that God who is a beginning when he made the universe and all the glorious entity Resting on Jesus Christ's head and heart and the Holy Spirit, who sometimes become a dove or very omnipresence who makes me feel good when I pray.
THANK YOU, I UNDERSTAND
Rarely as much as I like utube videos do a return to one. I did with this. I have been subjected to homilists my entire life and never did I hear so great an explanation of the Trinity
Yours, Lord, is the greatness, power, glory, majesty, and splendor, for everything in heaven and earth is yours. Yours, Lord, is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over all K
“Bless the Lord oh my soul…” for your gift of Bishop Barron! In all my (83) years as a Catholic Christian, these analogies of the Holy Trinity are the best explanations yet. Thank You Bishop Barron for all the Joys and Love of God you continually bring into my life through the MASS! 🙏🏼✝️✨🕊️
I feel exactly like you.
Thank you Bishop Barron🙏God bless you more now and for always, Amen🙏😔😇👏💖🌷🌸
God bless you, Bishop Barron.
"Catholic Christian" is an oxymoron.
You either follow (listen to, obey, imitate) Christ OR the pope.
You cannot follow both, especially because they contradict each other.
Further, popes *steal* titles from God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
"Holy Father" is a title used ONCE in the entire Bible and it's when Jesus uses it to address God in John 17:11.
If that doesn't make you tremble, then I tremble for you.
And Scripture says JESUS is the head of the church (Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 12).
The pope is called "head of the church" in the RCC.
And he's called "vicar of Christ" (a title first used by Pope Gelasius in the 5thC).
That means the same as "representative" and is the phrase used about the HOLY SPIRIT in the early church, referencing Jesus's words in John chapters 14 thru 17, especially John 14:16-17.
Unless you renounce the RCC and follow Christ ALONE (i.e don't jump straight into any Protestant denomination: God will LEAD you to a fellowship of true believers) you will never receive the fullness of a relationship with Jesus.
Jesus is returning for his BRIDE (the church i.e ekklesia in the Greek New Testament meaning "called-out people").
Anyone who follows others as well as Christ (popes, denominations, traditions, Luther, Calvin, Ellen White, Joseph Smith, Barron...) is seen by Jesus as being in spiritual adultery.
Simply siblime.
I always quote St Augustine's best quotation about the Trinity "If you can fully grasp it, it's not God!".
Forget science, forget the discussions, forget all the nonsense you have ever heard about God. Listen to this human being, open your heart, uncover the mystery, and you'll see who really God is. HE IS. IS HE. Bishop Barron is a divine miracle for this century. Thank you God.
Purpose of magic is to decieve
Of mystery is to entice.
Amen!!
@@grmalinda6251Yes, from a human perspective. Mystery, from a Theological point of view, is a truth, above and beyond all human reason, but revealed by God
The finest explanation of The Trinity that I have ever heard based on 3 amazing approaches! God Bless you, Bishop Barron, for sharing these 3 ways for us to “surrender to the Mystery of the Holy Trinity”. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for this intellectually stimulating sermon may we surrender our wills to the great mystery of the Trinity.
Commit an act of theology❤😂 I love this good man’s sense of humor. Lord, please protect him as he leads us through the valley of the shadow of theology. ❤
Wonderful!
I frickin' love this guy.
Indeed!
Curious wording: "valley of the shadow of theology" and "commit an act of theology"...
Apparently you have false teaching😢
Amen ❤️ 🙏
The brilliance of Trinity shines forth from the bishops homily in a way that endures our search to understand God, the unique relationship he wants us to have with him and the endless depth of his being. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Congratulations Bishop on your ordination Anniversary. God bless. We pray for you. 🇮🇳
I always knew the Trinity had something to do with psychology at least as an analogy this make sense now how we can say 3 Persons one god
Good rewind: "understanding...or at least not understanding, beginning to get a sense of what the Trinity is about". 3 Templates are profound. But at the end of the day, Knowing/understanding GOD's fullness is beyond human comprehension. And that's acceptable.
Thank you, Excellency!. I just knew that you would have a sermon that would help to explain this great mystery that is the Blessed Trinity. This morning at Mass, I watched our poor priest try to explain it, and as much as he tried to explain it, as deeply as I listened to his words, only a faint picture came into my mind. It was along the lines of something that I heard you explain in your Catholicism series I believe...that God the father 'breathed forth' the Son, that the Son gazed upon the Father and the love that both had for each other was so vast that it expressed itself as the Holy Spirit. I have kept that image all these years. But now, with this sermon, you have helped my mind to peer more deeply into this mystery which is our God. I know that I will never be able to fully grasp this mystery here on earth, but I now can see more clearly what I am worshipping. God bless you, Bishop Barron!
Another fantastic sermon that really explains a difficult concept. That you Bishop Barron. God bless!
You said Bishop: “God said, I am who I am”, “To be God is to be, to be.” “God is closer to us than ourselves”, “God knows us much more than we know ourselves”.
If so, the Trinity is easy to understand, if we do not understand. My relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is unique for each and at the same time, deep within me, always see them as One.
I love this! It makes perfect sense now! And explains, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God..." Of course!
This beautiful homily is a personification of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. May God continue to bless you, Excellency.
1Corinthians 16:14
"Do everything in love"
Wonderful illustration, how do you present it to a friend that is Pentecostal when they come back at you with this. We believe God is the Father, he created us, Jesus the Son is god man in flesh and we believe in the Holy Spirit, the presence and power of God. If they are 3 persons are there going to be 3 bodies in heaven. No they have 3 roles that are necessary for our salvation. allow me to explain. Only a true human could die for our sins and could take our place and shed his blood. So Jesus had to be the Son of God in order to die for our sins, but in order for the Son to be born, no human could do that, God had to be the Father of that baby born in the womb of a virgin and then salvation is not just because of what happened 2000 years ago. It has to be applied to our lives today. How does that happen God comes to us in his Spirit. So God's not eternally 3 persons named Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but God has operated in our lives as Father, Son, and Spirit for the specific purpose of redeeming us, or saving us from our sins. So with that as a background 3 persons but 1 God would be a distortion because it interjects this idea that in the nature of God there is some distinction, or separation, or division which is not practical for these reasons, who are we praying to we need to know for sure, are we praying to 1, or are we praying to 3. When we get to heaven who are we going to see 1, or we going to see 3, that makes a difference who is our faith in and the significance of the name of Jesus we need to understand because when we pray in Jesus name we expect demons to be cast out ( Mark 16:17 ); ( Luke 8:26-39 ); ( Acts 19: 13-17; 16:16-19 ;8:9-22 ), and people to be delivered and healed ( Matthew 9: 2, 22 ) ( Acts 3:6; 19:11,12 ); ( Mark 16:18 ) , and receive the Holy Spirit ( John 20 :22 ); (acts 2:4,2:38 ; 8:12; 19:2-7 ); ( 1 Corinthians 2:14 ). But if the emphasis is on Father, Son, and Holy Spirit then the name of Jesus is not magnified and we don't receive from God what he wants to give us. So there are a lot of practical reasons why we need to know the answer to this question and if there is any message in scripture that is emphasized is that God is 1 that's stated in ( Deuteronomy 6:4 ) Hear o Israel the Lord your God is 1 Lord, reiterated by the Lord Jesus in ( Mark 12:29 ). This 1 you got to get right .
As always, pure genius! Bishop Barron sheds such inspiring light on all things Catholic. I'm in awe of his wisdom, understanding, and knowledge. God bless you, Bishop! Thank you for sharing your insights.
This is the most profound Christian teaching I have ever heard - the Three Persons , from One Essence . A divine mystery !
May I forever strive to fill my tiny mind and meager heart with the vast ocean of the Divine Mystery!
Bishop Barrons ability to explain these deep and so often misunderstood concepts of God is what helped me convert to catholicism. These same concepts are at the heart of other great religions about the same one God , and one great mystery.
I want to tell you the fascinating story about when the Trinity verse was added to the Bible. This is a well-documented fact, detailed in "Whose Word Is It?: The Story Behind Who Changed the New Testament and Why" by Professor Bart Ehrman, an expert in biblical textual criticism.
In the 16th century, Erasmus, a Dutch scholar, produced the first printed edition of the Greek New Testament. The New Testament was originally written in Greek, but had been translated into Latin over the centuries. Erasmus aimed to create a critical scholarly edition based on Greek texts, relying mainly on late medieval manuscripts from the 12th century.
Erasmus’s edition of the Greek New Testament was later used by the translators of the King James Bible and other versions until the end of the 19th century. However, the Greek manuscripts Erasmus used were not of high quality and were produced about eleven hundred years after the originals. For example, his main manuscript for the gospels included the story of the woman taken in adultery and the last verses of Mark, which were not part of the original gospels.
One key passage missing from Erasmus’s manuscripts was 1 John 5:7-8, known as the Johannine Comma, which explicitly supports the doctrine of the Trinity. This passage is found in Latin Vulgate manuscripts but not in the majority of Greek manuscripts. The King James Version includes this verse: "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."
Bart Ehrman notes, "The Greek manuscripts that Erasmus used were not of the best quality... produced some eleven hundred years after the originals." Erasmus did not find this verse in any Greek manuscripts he consulted, so he omitted it from his first edition. This omission outraged theologians of his time, who accused him of tampering with the text. Erasmus reportedly agreed to include the verse in future editions if a Greek manuscript containing it could be produced. Consequently, a Greek manuscript was created in the 16th century, likely by translating the Latin text into Greek. Despite his reservations, Erasmus included the verse in subsequent editions.
These editions formed the basis for the King James Bible and other translations for centuries. The phrase "Textus Receptus" refers to this widely accepted form of the Greek text, despite its reliance on inferior manuscripts. Modern textual scholars now insist on using older and better manuscripts to base the Greek New Testament on scientific principles.
The Textus Receptus, though still revered by some fundamentalists, is based on late medieval manuscripts, whereas earlier manuscripts, such as the Codex Sinaiticus, do not contain the Johannine Comma or other later additions. Ehrman explains, "This passage... states the doctrine directly and succinctly," but it "was not in Erasmus's primary manuscript or in any of the others that he consulted." This realization challenges the solid basis for the Trinity doctrine in the Bible, making it difficult for some Christians to accept.
Did I hear you right about a trinity verse added to the Bible ???? Read what it says about adding to the Bible Revelation 22:18 in the NAB . Remember the Bible was translated from Greek and Hebrew 1nce , are you saying they got it wrong , or are you using ARTISTIC LICENSE to get your point across
Absolutely loved Bishop Barron’s elucidation of the Trinity 👍 Every Sunday should be Trinity Sunday, since it has been neglected, to the point where God has been reduced to just Jesus. If we lose sight of the Trinity, we lose sight of God.
The Trinity as a communion of persons expressed as Speaker, the Word spoken, and the speech shared underlines God as relationship.
It could also be said that there is a speaker, a listener, and the breath, since no speech is possible without breath.
There is also the Giver, the giver of thanks for the gift, and the generosity and spirit of the gift.
Another way of looking at it is: the Mystery or the mythical, the prophetic or the prophetic path, and the energy of spirit in action in the world.
As Bishop Barron said, the Trinity really is fundamentally real. Once you see the pattern, you begin to see it everywhere.
From the mysterious silence of the One, comes the Word or Logos, which would not be a relationship without the Spirit.
Within the Trinity, you have the three faces of God; the 1-2-3 of God that, incidentally gives rise to the Fibonacci number series, which shows up as patterns within nature, and from which we get the Golden Mean, as well as spirals. (I could go off on a tangent about the many spirals in nature and that the pattern of evolution is a spiral, combining both the cyclical and the linear. )
The very cosmos bears the imprint of the Trinity, which shows up everywhere; think protons, neutrons, and electrons; positive, negative, and neutral electrical wires; solids, liquids, and gases; nouns, verbs, and the descriptive adjectives and adverbs; thesis, antithesis, and synthesis at a higher level than that of the opposites.
We also bear the image of the Trinity, since there is no “I” without a “we,” and since it is impossible to exist as a person without other people.
The Trinity opens immense vistas onto the divine.
My special thanks to Bishop Barron for his interesting, insightful, and inspiring talk on the Trinity.
Matthew 7:1
"Do not judge and criticize and condemn others so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves."
I agree with a lot of what you say and believe that science has proven the existence of God. If Plato or Descartes or any of the brilliant thinkers of history had knowledge of the Big Bang beyond theory, they would have worked it all out by now.
With regards to trinity in nature, you might also consider length, width, height; sine, cos, tan; psychology (Id, Ego, Superego); and universal dimensions beyond L,W,H (our perceptual trinity) to include the trinity of subatomic structure (molecular, atomic, quark) and universal (solar system, galaxy, universe.)
I would personally like to hear your tangent on spirals and the golden mean, which will probably include fractiles, but I don't know how the Fibonacci sequence and spirals in general fit within a trinity polarity dualistic structure.
The reflection of himself. Bishop Barron is a modern Doctor of the Church and has such an amazing Ministry, I sure hope the Cardinals and the Pope play close attention to his brilliant theological mind and soul thats full of God's Love just as he explained.
God bless the Bishop of the internet
How should a Catholic handle negative judgment by non-catholic christians? Ignore it.
Graphic explanation of the Trinitarian mystery. Bishop Barron is a modern day evangelist par excellence.
Thank you, Bishop Barron, for sharing these deep myster5ies of God with all!~
Thank you for another beautiful homily.
Something that has me so confused, If in Matthew it says to call no one Rabbi or Father why do we call men Fathers of the church? I'm not implying their impact and there usage by God to be a vessel, but why do Catholics (universal) call men Father; say to a man "forgive me Father for I have sinned", asking a man for forgiveness. I am lost on where this comes from. I am lost on where a Pope gets such authority; it doesn't keep me away from God but it does keep away from the building now called a church. We do have modern day Pharisees and Sadducees do we not? Those people with that type of mindset weren't done away with were they?
I also have had the same thought about Jesus's admonition regarding the use of the title of father. Priests are Jesus's special workers so perhaps that is why we call them father. Is this legalistic thought?
Bishop Barron, how wonderful to hear this exquisite rendering of the Trinity! Full and robust words to paint a picture which will, forever evoke a beautiful vision for me. Thank you!
The way I understand the Holy Trinity is that God the Father is Love. God the Son is Forgiveness and God the Holy Spirit is the Act of the Father's Love and the Son's Forgiveness in my heart, leading me to be more loving and more forgiving, if I believe and follow as I should. I know that I truly do not understand. But for me, this is God. God bless
Well it makes sense but our small minds just have to have faith in the trinity. Thanks Father for explaining it in a little more detail. God bless you in Jesus name.
Thank you Bishop Barren for the profound and complex explanation of the Holy Trinity.
I need to listen a numerous times to grasp the essence of your homily
Thank you Bishop Barron for bringing your wisdom togeather in a comprehensive and insightful message.
Beautiful ❤. Thank you Bishop Barron. May God Bless you and Mary keep you.
Thank you Bishop Barron. Filling the hole in the sand with the ocean...wow! May God Bless you.
🔥🔥🔥Come, Holy Spirit, come Transform our faith, hope and love.
Ps 33:22, Mt 28:19
Jesus came up and spoke to them. He said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the
Holy Spirit,’
😇 the Most Holy Trinity, we love You!❤️
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Thanks Bishop Barron for trying to convey a message which until now still remains a mystery for me.
God bless more and protect Bishop Barron.
Thank you Bishop Barron
Love the way God is the epitome of being the relational. He is relational to Himself, to his Word spoken, and is interpreted divinely through us in the Trinity. Happy Trinity Sunday everyone! 🙏🏻
Every time, a great homily,. Thank you Bishop Barron
Thank you, Bishop Barron. You explain in a way that even those like me can understand. God bless you. Please pray for me as I pray for you. 🙏🏼
Dear Bishop: this is excellent, pure and simple! The best explanations of the Trinity I have ever heard!
Great sermon! Thanks so much, Bishop! May The Good Lord always bless you and your ministry! ❤
Love your last story and message about the child on the beach and the ocean. To fully live in God’s divine love and plan is to surrender.
Amazing Homily, Thanks, God Bless you too
I bow to the Mystery!
The hits just keep on comin'.
Gracias querido Padre Robert! Feliz Domingo
God Bless you Bishop Barron!
God bless you Bishop Robert Barron. In general your homilies are always so interesting to listen to and now in particular about the Trinity. You can explain this mystery in a beautiful way that many Catholics can understand. Well , all Christian’s. Have listen to several other priests and there theological answer is. We don’t understand. It’s a mystery. It’s great to have you that have the knowledge and excellent way of explaining. Pax in Christo et Marie 🙏🏻🕊️🙏🏻 2:41
In the context of James 4:11. Do not criticize one another, my friends. If you criticize or judge another Christian, you criticize and judge the law.
In the context of Proverbs 12:25, Solomon points out in this verse that worry is not a small burden. The cares of this world can weigh heavily on the heart and cause a person to despair or feel depressed. However, a kind word, a word of encouragement, can lift his drooping spirit and cheer him up. Yeah, 40 years in 🐕 training... Our Lady of Lourdes, pray for us.
Oh, thank you! Excellent!!
Amazing homily…God bless you, Bishop✝️🙏
Thank you. I have not really struggled with the Trinity. However, I can not say I really understood, especally the relationship aspect. St. Agustine's example is vital in my spiritual life.
Too much translation. You are looseing the gist of the message.
I can't seem to flee from trauma and drama, but I sure find God in the regular world and Mass. And when I'm really worried, I address God as God, because He's three in One divine nature. I appreciate the way that you teach us this. Latin understood, here.
I understand more now by your talks on the Trinity than ever before. It's awesome and beautiful and so amazing to listen to the words here. There's nothing I would rather choose to do right now then recline and enjoy this homily and your amazing explanation. Then I began to wonder(as my mind so often does). How many Saints in Heaven did'nt know so much of this information or how to view Three Persons in One God, The Trinity? And left it to Mystery. Then Mystery is Good too. I love The Mysteries of our Faith and I love the homilies! Thank you, Bishop Barron!! I love learning new things about the Faith and much of the time I believe I equally love to, leave it to Mystery.❤
God is love, thus a relationship of persons within Himself. I told that to a Protestant friend with an atheist present & their minds were blown. Mine was too the first time the Holy Spirit told it to me in contemplation. I love the Holy Spirit. He is more real to me than anything in this world.
I'll never understand how Bishop Barron knows so much! Seems like all great people do. The breadth of sheer knowledge & wisdom is astounding. All the best psychologists are Catholic.
Wonderful sense of Trinity about, thank you Bishop
Understanding relationship - “I slept and dreamt that life way joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold service was joy.” A quote from Rabindranath Tagore.
Thanks for helping to bring clarity to the Divine Mystery of the Holy Trinity. The three templates are really helpful. Bishop, your sermons have become my 'go-to' for nourishing my faith.
"Your face, Lord, do I seek. Hide not your face from me" (Ps 27:8-9).
Tremendous!! I learn so much each Sunday!
Bishop, thank you for being such a wonderful theologian
Great to hear a bit of sustaining theology from the good Bishop.
I’m almost certain my priest listened to this sermon, to help him with his. Also, of all the people I read/watch, Bishop Barron is the one that causes me to look up words. This week, it was “chthonic”. Thank you for being such a great help and guide, and not talking down to your enormous flock.
Deuteronomy 31:8
"Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you"
God bless you. Poetic in such density of meaning condensed into a few minutes.
Learning the Greek 'parakletos' (to call over) and the Latin 'advocatus' (call toward) really helped me. How often I sense a nudging, prompting or prodding to move in a certain direction after my daily prayers. With the gift of discernment and wisdom, I can attribute it to the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Abba!
Thank you. Bishop Barron ✝️🕊️🙏
Thank you very much for exposing this subject so wonderfully well, and full of Love.
"You can't really say "God is love" without affirming the Trinity." (6: 9 - 6: 14)
Thank you Bishop for explaining the mystery of the Trinity.
Blessed Sunday!
Thank you for sharing this homily. God bless.
Thank you, Bishop Barron.
Comment *#4* : Yours is the behavior of a *troll* .
The lord is my savior❤🙏🏾
Judith Moore
Very well explained. Robert is always worth listening to, indeed he has a divine gift in sharing the gospel in a understanding and well examined manner.
God bless you Bischop. Thank you for your explanation. It makes me very happy for now it’s clear what is meant by the Holy Trinity.
❤God, the Creator,
❤Jesus, the Redeemer,
❤Spirit, the Sanctifier !