I went to Los Angeles with my girlfriend this summer as my last trip as a student from Japan. I was fascinated by many things, such as the culture, language, and lifestyle, which were completely different from those in Japan, but the most impressive thing was Barstow. After sightseeing in Los Angeles, we found a desert town on the way to Las Vegas and decided to stay there and go to Las Vegas the next day. On the way to Barstow, we saw some amazing locations that we would never have seen in Japan, and we had to make a detour, so by the time we arrived in Barstow, it was nighttime. Early the next morning, I decided to drive a little further to see the sunrise, and the view of Barstow from the hilltop was a wonderful sight that I will never forget. The city of Los Angeles and the night view of Las Vegas were wonderful, but for some reason, it was the sunrise I saw in Barstow that I remember the most. If I ever go to the United States again, I would like to visit the desert city of Barstow again！
If you come back go somewhere else aside from California. That's the last place in America most of us would recommend you go. Los Angeles is a trash pile.
I was born in Los Angeles but when I was one year old my parents moved to Barstow. That was in 1947. I lived there until I was 22 years old in 1970. I am a baby boomer and Barstow was growing like crazy when I was a kid. They were building houses everywhere and schools too. Everyone knew everyone else in high school was a blast. I am sad to see the condition that it is currently in. I wouldn’t move back there, but, I wouldn’t change a thing about growing up there.
@@SubjectDredd Yermo was the first, it's a burger joint today. Barstow is same owner as Yermo met the man and his wife hope there ok today. Moved 4 years ago never live there again.
the funny thing is Barstow is not "obscure" at all. Its the biggest stop between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. The fact that it has not developed at all is so weird, seems like a place that should grow just from its location alone.
I currently live in Barstow and the next day I moved in 2 guys tried to break in. I have had one guy break-in in the middle of the night at the rear of the house but the Dog scared him away. There are only 3 real grocery stores in the area and people tell me to stay away from two of them due to car break ins and robberies. I dont live in the best but not the worst neighborhood and mail/package theft is a problem and even had a clay planter stolen. Homeless and drug addicts are everywhere along with prostitution. You do have the older and aging population that are good people but they're aging out and the rift raft from LA are being sent up to replace them in the High Desert as its called. One small pet peeve that I have comes from the parking laws and lack of enforcement stemming from people having 3 or more cars parked up and down the street infront or yours and neighbor home's that have flat tires and the city doesn't deal with. Just to name a few issues. I can go on but this sums up the issues that I see. To make a point jobs are centered around service jobs mainly fast food and the like or the Railroads or the military istallation 40 miles away for meaningful employment. The medians that were given I feel don't correctly give a true feel for the market as most homes a lot higher but the law of averages drag down the prices of the real homes that are worth the while of the ones that have jobs that allow home ownership. After 3 years and all the complaints I am only waiting on a better job to open up in another state that would allow me to leave this area.
I grew up in Barstow, graduated from Barstow Union High School in 1960. Back then it was a very nice place to be and live in. I left to join the Air Force in 1962. Too bad it's gone the way it has.
In 1980 I was working for the state in the California Conservation Corps and got stationed to a camp in Barstow. It was a huge shock as I drove my bike into town the first time and made my way to a re-purposed elementary school on rimrock rd, that was then a state work camp. Up to then, I was lucky enough to have been stationed at a few fire camps located in the most beautiful areas of Ca. The camp in Barstow seemed like being in hell, compared to those. But, after some time there, I got used to the never ending sounds of trains, the winds, extreme temps and dust. Me and my crews did some interesting projects at some unique sites. Like building the rock wall around the cemetery at Calico Ghost Town, trail work at Afton Canyon, etc. Barstow wasn't so bad after all, as I remember a lot of fun with unrestricted riding, desert parties with the locals, and the wacky water park on I-15...
The Walmart Store and the McDonald's train station in Barstow are the main sights worth seeing in Barstow. I used to live near that McDonald's train station. It was from 1993 to 2011. I had to live there for the sake of my family's future. For desert it's a good one and pretty. It's extremely dry and wild cactus cannot grow there. It is a high altitude desert so in the winter it's extremely cold with an occasional light dusting of snow. At night it would be 15 - 20 degrees F. for weeks. It was far to dry to put down any real snow. In the summer it would be 120 F. for 2 or 3 weeks during the hottest part of the season. Without humidity it's not as bad as one would think. We'd have three weeks of great weather for spring and three weeks in fall. Barbecuing for Easter there is the custom! Rest of the year the weather was bad and we all had to stay inside. Humidity was so, so low not many places had air conditioning. Swamp coolers worked great, though. It's a very windy desert too. The soil is finer than talcum powder and is being inhaled all the time. I had pneumonia 4 times the first 4 years we lived there. Lots of fungus, viruses and bacteria in that inhaled soil. Soil is so alkaline nothing much can grow in it unless lots of topsoil is replaced, which works well. The water is very alkaline too. There were big full blown sand storms (haboobs) that showed up a couple of times a year. Most people didn't dust inside their homes. I lived in Barstow, accomplished a great deal for my family and my life, but I don't want to live there again if I can help it. The sober people were great. Thank you for a very accurate video. It's great to see familiar places.
Alright, I got a story. I live in Vegas and one day I got a message from this dude who says he’s from Vegas too but he’s been living in Barstow for the past year because he’s a construction worker and working at Ivanpah, building the solar shit. He asked me if I wanted to hang out. He’d request the weekend off & come pick me up to take me out there. Just a couple days to hang out, cuz “there ain’t shit to do out here” he told me. I didn’t know if this was a kidnapping/murder plot or what and I really wondered why he thought Barstow was the appropriate place to spend the weekend but for some fucking reason I agreed. I ended up staying two weeks. When it was time for me to go, he drug up his job and took his ass back to Vegas. We’ve now been together nine years and we have twins. We really fell in love with each other in Barstow. We spent the best time getting to know the ins and outs of each other, without any distractions, in all the spots you shown in this video. I was never bored. The 99 Cents store where we bought matching coffee mugs, the laundry mat, where we washed his work clothes and ate Chinese food next door while waiting. The Walmart made me feel like a kid back in the 90s because it hasn’t been remodeled like all the ones in Vegas are. We sat there & made each other bust out laughing cuz we were there alone at the lil donut shop, watched our first movie together @ the spot there, I got cool shit at the antique mall that we still have in our home & we spent 2 whole minutes exploring the entire museum. The fuckin food 4 less gas station was my fav to people watch. Who cares that it only took two days to go through the entire town and then we had to do it all over again..I dug it. Any place we could go, we explored. If I was with anyone else, I probably would’ve hated that place and felt like a fish outta water..but I had a killer time. I think that’s how I knew he was the one. I LOVE Vegas. Born & raised..but it was hella nice to be somewhere for once that was chill, we could get anywhere in a few mins, nothing was packed & at times we were the only ones there. Shit was affordable. Where his spot was, was QUIET at night. It was just a trip to me. It didn’t have any of the big city stresses, so it was a much needed break and i appreciated that aspect. Anytime I hear “Barstow” I cheese up. That’s the city of love baby! (for us anyway lmao) Whenever we’re on our way to LA. We always have to stop and take a quick drive through and go to a few places for nostalgia purposes while holding hands and giggling like freaks. I’ll always adore Barstow, it’ll forever hold a special place in my heart. & I’ll forever defend it. We literally just celebrated our wedding anniversary on Halloween so I love that I just stumbled across your video. Thank you🥹❤️
I'll be forever baffled by people who are bored by places. Any places. To my eyes, we get from a place what we summon from within ourselves. I'm entertained by spectacle yet I don't require a show to see one.
I lived in Barstow for five years. It was scorching hot and utterly depressing. Stepping outside in the summer felt like standing directly in front of an oven with the door flung open. Nothing but bone-dry heat. While the initial beauty of the majestic beige and brown scenery was captivating, the year-round monotony drove me crazy. Living in the desolate desert, devoid of the lush green trees of the southern states, made me yearn to escape.
I was stationed at Fort Irwin in 1967. Barstow seemed smaller then, bu not as run down. Seemed like a nice quiet little town with not much to do. Fort Irwin was 35 miles from Barstow, or, as we used to say, 35 miles from nowhere.
I was an Air Traffic Controller in the Army, stationed at Fort Ord from 1977 - 79. We came out to Daggett airport for 2 field exercises, Braveshield XVI and XVII. It was for about 2 weeks each time. Slept in GP medium tents. The helicopters were based there, and flew to Fort Irwin to play in the games, and came back to Daggett in the early evening. We worked in our portable control tower to run the airport. For the first one (XVI), I had the "privilege" of being in the advanced party of about a dozen guys who got to come a week early to set up ALL the tents for the entire 7th Aviation battalion. For all the troops living quarters, mess hall, aid station, supply storage, headquarters, etc. It was burning hot. We worked in the blazing sun the first day. It almost killed us. The Captain in charge had a meeting with everyone, and we got to vote on how to proceed. We decided to start working at first light until around 11:00 AM, and then rest in the shade of the hanger on our cots until around 4 PM, then work to sundown. That worked out a lot better. The best part was being able to go to the Marine Corp logistics base in Barstow to eat in their mess hall. So much better than Army mess halls. Our tents were kind of off by ourselves, away from the main "tent city", because we needed a good view of the runways, and to also be located next to the FAA Flight Service Station. We were able to head off into Barstow on fast food runs, and went to the local high school to see a fireworks show on July 4th. So, we got to sneak off to do things most of the other soldiers couldn't. Another time, we also spent a couple of weeks at Fort Irwin to support another field exercise. This time in actual barracks. Had a pretty good time there.
I was born there and lived there most of the 35 or so years I lived in California (also lived in Lenwood and Yermo a bit). I loved my town of Barstow until about 1993; that's when things started to change a little bit and it slowly started going downhill. By about 1998 it was a nowhere, no-count, nothing of a town, but it was still tons better than what it became in the 2010's and beyond. Thanks for making this video. Despite the depressing info you graced us with, it was neato to see what is still there, what's been replaced with something else or what isn't there and hasn't been replaced with something else. This video was both depressing and fascinating at the same time, like an episode of "Hoarders".
Was in Barstow for fuel 2 weeks ago. Sketchy beggars all over the streets. While I was in buying lotto tickets, the checker got a call from another gas station saying 6 thugs had walked thru and stolen a shit load of stock. Ate at Inn N Out, and had to search (and wait) for a parking place where I could watch my pick up truck through window while eating. The staff at Inn N Out were great young service oriented people. So great that I called out the staff for their good service, loud enough for everyone to hear. All the patrons gave them applause and thumbs up. The staff appreciated the recognition. I’m going to make a habit of doing that when I see good service anywhere. Especially in the midst of a crumbling shithole like Barstow.
Ive lived here since birth, im now 19. Its bad but only cause its boring, if you don't involve yourself with negative ppl and actions then the absolute worst thing youll run into in barstow is HEAT AND BOREDOM! STOP OVER EXAGGERATING PLACES ESPECIALLY IF YOU DONT LIVE THERE
Nobody talks about the good things barstow does like the christmas toy for cop they do every christmas eve. The police, firefighters, businesswoman and men, all come together and go down nearly every street with thousands of toys for kids who dont get a chance to experience a good christmas
I ride road guard in the toy drive and my wife gives out toys from the truck bed. I won’t use names but that retired officer had kept this going for many many years now.
Thanks for the tour I go thru Barstow when I take the wife to Nevada either Las Vegas or Laughlin, but living in Los Angeles I avoid the 15 and I take Highway 66 from Victorville so you showed me a lot that I never knew existed but yet you didn’t show the famous Harvey house hotel and train station if I remember correctly, the Del taco restaurants in Barstow served good food for fast food place that is thank you once again as for living in Barstow, it’s too hot and too windy for this old man, but I sure would like it just because of the railroad activity
the original del taco restaurant (or a sign indicating so) is visible at 11:08. Fun Fact: Barstow residents grew up with the original Del Taco #1, and when Taco bell put two restaurants at either end of Main Street, they survived for just a few years before going out of business. Why would you go to Taco Bell when there was a Del Taco Macho Beef Burrito in your future???
i grew up there. my dad was a high-ranking officer at the base there, so when i was little i was kind of feared/respected because i was "so-and-so's kid", but when my parents divorced, i was the 'kid living with a single mom' which in the 60s, was a Very Bad thing. As soon as i graduated from John F. Kennedy high school, i was outta there, and never looked back. The only things i miss the smell of mesquite after a rainshower, and the constant steady wind - you could fly a kite any day of t he year.
I lived on George AFB while in the service from 1969 thru 1971. It was not a pleasant time there although it was the place where I met the kindest guy I ever met in my entire life. That was 1971, so Barstow for me is a wonderful part of my life. (thank you my friend) You worked the the diner at the old train station. I was covered in oily steel shavings having just hopped the train in Bakersfield which was empty. It was one of those trains cars without a roof which was so light that I had to stand to whole time holding to the top of the 'bucket' because the car so violently bounced around, that I had to use my knees as a spring to keep me from being thrown around the car which would have killed me and I had to keep holding my breath through the tunnels or I would have been asphyxiated and I had no way to know how long the tunnels were. I just had to hope the tunnels weren't too long and there were a lot of them. He took me under his wing, let me use his shower got my clothes washed, fed me and sent me on my way.
Been to Barstow many times, but never really INTO Barstow. Usually just roughly the midway point for anyone travelling between LA and Las Vegas, and most will just stop on Lenwood Avenue and eat at one of the two dozen or so eateries (all chains like Jersey Mike's, Starbucks, In-N-Out, McDonald's, etc.) and also gas up at any of the multiple (way overpriced) gas stations. Back in the 90s, the outlet mall was a big draw, since those things were relatively uncommon then, but now it just happens to be a smallish town in the desert at the intersection of two major Interstates.
I grew up in Barstow. I graduated from Barstow High in 2001. I moved away a few years later & after many years in Indiana, I reluctantly moved back to Barstow. It had gotten much worse from when I left! Like 3 of my favorite restaurants to go to were gone. During the time I live there for the 2nd time, Sizzlers closed, Churches Chicken closed & Big K Mart closed. Plus there was either a murder happened within the city limits or a murder wanted from some other state was found living in Barstow for like the 1st 5 years that I lived there. Sadly, EVERY TIME Barstow takes a step forward, it ends up taking like 3 steps back in a few years. I finally moved away again( after almost 9 years of living there). I moved to a town in Arizona. I’m sad to say I wouldn’t move back to Barstow even if I was GIVEN my dream home on my dream property! Sadly, Barstow has gone down hill( & sadly, seems to KEEP going down hill)! There ARE good things about Barstow( such as the interesting museums & the great hiking)…………… Plus, there’s a church for pretty much ANY religion in Barstow. Sadly, I don’t think the good things outweigh the bad about it. There are A LOT of crazy people there( mainly because of the drugs…………..SOME do have mental health issues which is sad they don’t have enough places to help those kinds of people. There isn’t even a mental hospital there! Heck even the local hospital doesn’t have a psych ward! It’s more of a glorified band aid station)! I’m glad that I got out & I’d NEVER move back(MIGHT go back to visit, but, NEVER to live there)! DEFINITELY needs to become better for me to move back( which I sadly HIGHLY DOUBT will happen)!
I hear Barstow Mall closed down a few years ago and then reopened as office space. Lake Dolores Water Park a.k.a. Rock a Hula Park closed down too. That was years ago.
@@midcenturymodern9330 as far as I know, Barstow Mall is still open. All of the other places in the parking lot of Barstow Mall rent from Barstow Mall. Yes, Lake Deloris closed years ago because of lack of funds to keep it open. Same thing with the indoor swimming pool in Barstow. Bun Boy is also gone. Along with Churches Chicken, Sizzlers, Coco’s, Carrow’s, Big Kmart, RideAid, & the bowling alley. Oh, & the El Rancho Motel has burned down.
Are used to live in Hisperia. I lived over on third and Willow. My mom and dad bought a house there and that’s where we lived . I sure did love it there. It was a nice quiet cool quiet little town. There was always something to do. Well now that I am older a lot older now than I was when I was living there. But I’m glad to see the town is still doing good. I may have to get back up there Sunday and have a look around. It’s not too far from where I’m at now. Thanks for the video. Have a great day.👍🏼👍🏼😁😎
Was stationed at Fort Irwin back in the early '90s. The town was much busier then, McDonald's and the mall was crowded and the new outlet mall in Lenwood would be PACKED on weekends, especially the Levi's and Hanes stores. Had a larger selection of restaurants also. You could go dancing at Shakers or Ruby's but not any more. Now it's like a shell of what it once was. Sad.
I grew up in Barstow. My parents and grandparents ran the A&C Cafe, Katz, and the Beacon Bowl Coffee shop. It was a really nice place back then, but I guess it has deteriorated.
I used to go to katz also there was a pool hall next door i believe i bowled at the beacon bowl i lived out on 58 also in dagget there was a cafe called the chili bowl on 58 just over the bridge i had a buddy that lived in the bottoms i worked at the marine base from 1974 to 1978 FJB
@@chuckyjules8488 i used to go to the chilli bowl also and there was a little bar down the road can't remember the i also used to go to the gray stone out by the base i worked at yermo base for 5 years FJB
I've been there several times to visit cousins that once lived there. To me it wasn't bad. A little windy and dusty but I liked it. Being from Chicago , and seeing true dumps like Philly , Baltimore , Newark , Detroit , etc. , Barstow isn't near that level of suckiness.
I live in Cincinnati and drove across the country to Cali by myself in 2011. Barstow was the first town I stopped in. Pretty sure I stayed the night at the Quality Inn. Not gonna say which one... but there was a large group of biker club members who were obviously patiently waiting for someone on both sides of the outside lobby entry door. Having just arrived on a whim from a long ways away, I figured they weren't waiting for me and proceeded to check in. All went normal from there and that's my whole side of the story, but I've always wondered what the rest of the story was. Just a few days later I went through a bad dust storm on I-10 near Picacho Peak, AZ. It looked like an apocalyptic scene on another planet and a bunch of people lost their lives that day. Instead of going back toward Cali, I opted to go back to my familiar Ohio home. That was definitely the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. 😐😂
I live 10 miles from Pichaco Peak. My coworkers two kids, aged 14 & 16, died in a car crash in I-10 when two Semis pit their car because of the zero visibility of the Haboob (Sandstorm). No matter where you are, our life must go on.
I lived in Barstow in '92...my brother was stationed at Ft. Irwin not too far away. There was gang activity back then with the Main Street Crips and the Bishop Bloods. I remember the Peace Treaty party that did turn out so well. I moved to Baker, Ca after that.
That's about when I escaped Barstow as a freshman at BHS..and yes I remember that peace treaty shit show..lol.. been in Glenville GA, close to Fort Stewart , ever since. Much better😂 The house I grew up in was on Sunrise rd with the church of scientology in the back yard..crazy place
California desert towns have a very distinct flavor of depression to them. Driving that stretch between Bakersfield and Barstow during Summer is always a harrowing experience. It’s all so sad and empty, and so unimaginably hot I can’t even put into words just how hot it is. You break down in the wrong area out there, you’re as good as dead.
Yeah, those are hardscrabble towns. For me, the weirdest desert town in California is Trona. It's very isolated and smells odd. The movie "A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night" was shot there.
@@EdDunkleDrove through Trona about 20 years ago on my way to Death Valley. I'll tell you - I was never so creeped out in my life as the handful of minutes it took to drive through that little hamlet. It really had that "The Hills Have Eyes" vibe to it.
I think Barstow is an important city. After you've driven across the high desert from Kingman toward Los Angeles, one of the most beautiful sights is *any* city, and Barstow is it. A darn shame the crime is so high. +1
I was stationed at Fort Irwin for 2 years when I was in the Army, 1990-1992. Couldn’t stand my boss (total jerk) so I’d “escape” to Barstow when I had the opportunity. I was lucky to meet a lass who was working as a civilian at Irwin and had a place in Barstow. That certainly made things more pleasurable. Thoroughly enjoyed traveling the off road trails in the desert with my 4x4. Saw thousands of desert tortoises, and lots of snakes and lizards. The Chuckwalla’s, or desert iguanas, were interesting creatures. And of course there plenty of coyotes but you tended to hear them more often than see them. Barstow wasn’t too bad then, but not really a place where I’d choose to live. It was a bit too hot and remote for me.
I was born in Barstow, we lived in Lenwood, my dad worked at the Marine Corps Logistics Base. this was late 50's. our back yard was the desert It is a great place to be from.
Interesting to have viewed what you drove. However there are a lot of residential areas and a few parks I would like to have seen. There was once a lot of greenery in yards, the older areas just south of main street had old growth trees, elm for the most part but the area was full of shade. The area south of the old Barstow High on Buena Vista Ave had nice yards and landscaping too, same for the old western residential areas of Flora Ave, Buena Vista, Nancy street all looked better than what I saw in this video. And Foglesong Park in the old western residential area, near what was the middle school and the public pool was a very old and attractive park, had little league ball fields and abundant space with lots of trees for family outings. This video makes the place look like the day after doomsday for cryin' out loud...shame it is so. That used to be a busy and growing town, always survived on the travelers dollar, Vegas travelers depended on the gasoline and car repair facilities, eateries and lodging. The Military contributed big, the USMC logistics supply base at Nebo and the Army training center at Fort Irwin. Railroad always has always been a major cog in the economy there. I just can't get over how run down the entire area looks. I started life there in 1949, moved away in 1973 after finishing college. Last time there was 1991. Never was night life there except us kids cruised main street for kicks, but we always complained of boredom because there was nothing to do. Truth is depends on what your interests be, there is lots of wide open land to explore, rock hunt, dirt bike, off road vehicles.
I recall the Barstow to Vegas (B to V) dirt bike r 1:48 races each November. Only time I was ever near J. N. Roberts, the desert fox and Steve McQueen ( Lipschitz was his " riding name". Good times.
Did anyone notice the streets and side streets of Barstow look relatively orderly and clean. You don't see piles of trash all over the place. Nor did I see homeless encampments, which surprised me but then again the 120 degree summer might have something to do with it. This means the residents of Barstow as a group still take pride and dignity in their community. Say what you will about the small police force in Barstow. But it can call upon other resources outside of Barstow if it has to. In a hypothetical apocalypse where the local law enforcement fades away, the local gangs would fight it out for supremacy. A strongman leader would arise in the victorious gang. Barstow would become one of those fictional apocalyptic towns where residents are ruled under the iron fist of the local strongman and his gang of vicious, repugnant, avaricious henchmen. So be glad that Barstow has a functioning police department.
I feel like they could have added some parks or something to break some of the monotony. I have passed by and driven in barstow and never got a good impression of it
My family moved here last year in 2022. This place is so bleek that it is what you make it. Meaning if you are looking outside of yourself, your family or your home for happiness then you will be disappointed to the point of s$&@“-?: the people are weird and there is no culture. I’m an artist so I feel compelled to leave this place (ASAP) a little better than when I arrived (not by choice but circumstances).
You summed it up perfectly well. I just moved here six months ago and absolutely hate this place. There's ZERO jobs! If it wasn't for making pennies online I wouldn't be able to feed my elderly parents. We only moved here because it was literally all we could afford in the state... it was "too good to be true" but now I just wait and pray that I can one day leave after my parents pass away.
I have been to Barstow through out my life, and this city growing so fast, from a little desert town to the international bus stop. It has been non stop growing since the late 90s.
I stayed in the WalMart parking lot for 2 nights at the beginning of this year. Went to the laundry by the 99 cent store during the day. I've been through there a number of times, never had a problem, although there were plenty of sketchy people at the WM during the night. I think if you like the desert it would be a good place to live. The arra is not just flat desert. It was/is a mining area with rolling hills and some decent peaks near by. If l was to live there it would be out of town.
@@GoodCharms The “higher” paying jobs in Barstow include working at Ft Irwin/Nebo annex/BNSF rail yard, working for the city via police dept/firefighter etc.
I lived there back in the middle 90s... I lived at 1000 zion Dr. I really miss the weather in the desert. I then moved to Ludlow for a few years and then back to Oklahoma
@@kuckoo9036 I understand that BNSF recently announced that they would be investing some $1.5 BILLION to turn their Barstow operation into a major inland distribution center. They already have a major yard there. That's quite a big injection of money, and that will also bring in a lot of new jobs, leading to demand for new housing, medical facilities, etc.
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive
I remember driving through Barstool on I-15 when it was just a couple of motels and truck stop gas stations. Always remember sand blowing under the restroom door on one of my bathroom breaks.
The MAIN problem with Barstow is the Government keeps opening and closing Fort Irwin. That's why the population and the crime rate keeps going up and down, The military is in and out and not steady enough to keep the riff raft out and doing what they do. Barstow doesn't have or really need a night life because it's so close to L.A., everyone will just go into the city to what they want to do.
Fort Irwin has not been closed for years. They just expanded NASA and NTC is now the location of choice for large scare training. It’s there to stay but most of those folks live in Apple Valley.
@@averageamericangirl6819 I spent 21 years in the Army and while It's not "closed" it's not exactly "open"either, it's a training center, there are no line units there anymore, there's only 4400 soldiers and 4200 ish civilians even stationed there as opposed to 1970 before they closed it for a decade in 71 when there was 65,000 Soldiers, there's more soldiers and civilians that work on the National Guard Post that I grew-up 30 miles from.
@@TheREALOC1972 i literally was just stationed there recently. They have expanded NTC’s role in national security. The base will be open long after we are gone.
@@averageamericangirl6819 Once again.... it's not REALLY open, It's JUST a training base, the soldiers that are stationed there are adminstrative/overseer duties only, There's no Infantry units there, No Field Artillery, No ADA, there's literally JUST admin and medical staff.
Barstow’s on the route we take from the SF Bay Area to Vegas. Our first trip was in 1979. We decided to spend the night there. The hotel was ok, but not much in the way of decent food. That pretty much never changed. About the only reason to stop in Barstow now is for gas and a pit stop. But hey, it’s better than Boron.
@@dobbs1947 only thing I’ve found in Boron is a decent gas station that has clean bathrooms (Love’s Travel Sop). Other than that, Boron lives up to the “bore” part of its name.
If you ever drive through Barstow, stop at Platas off Irwin Rd and get a bean and cheese (mild) You will NOT be sorry. My family has had me fly with Platas across the country, it's that good. I lived in Barstow and here are the highlights: The food at some spots, (Platas, Del Taco, Weinerschnitzel, In N Out, and the Denny's in Lenwood) The Drive-In, Rainbow Basin, cruise down Main St., see Barstow Station, drive by the Harvey House, and then keep it moving.
I wouldn't live in Barstow due to the extreme heat during the summer. I live in San Diego and the cost of living is much higher. However, the weather is really nice over here and there are a lot of things to do in the City.
Im one of the few guys that go out there to work door to door for spectrum. I enjoy it because i feel like im apart of the community & alot of the people i sell to remember me & really appreciate the discounts i give them. More greatful than victorville hesperia & apple valley by far. I respect barstow.
Thanks for posting this video. I'm planning to be in California next week and thinking of doing a daytrip into Barstow which is about an hour drive away from where I'm staying. Was a little concerned about the crime issue you mentioned. Hopefully I won't be affected if I just visit for a few hours during the daytime.
The thing about all these desert cities (I live in Upland which is 40 mins away from the high desert) is that there are hardly any jobs up there. Many of the population from the high desert drive down to the IE or Los Angeles for work. The only work you can find in the desert is retail or fast food. That region needs job development badly to become a better living state.
I have been going through Barstow for 60 years. No jobs there now. As someone wrote, many of the better and inexpensive local restaurants have closed. A number of vets retired out there because of the lower cost of living. They are disappearing while, as some one says, the rift raft from LA has moved in. Clearly, the construction of the freeway killed all the businesses on the city portion of Route 66. There is the old highway continuing south to Victorville. It is like going back in time. As soon as a modern highway came in, time froze. No more people getting cars and tires repaired or stopping for a bite to eat.
I lived in Barstow from like 94-97, went to Thompson elementary school and barstow middle school, it looked nothing like this, only thing I remember there was a Kmart shopping center and on the left side was food 4 less and I think a dmv on the same plaza. Looks like it population doubled and more fast food chains moved in as well.
It looks like the city government is active in keeping a clean well planed city. The road are wide with curbs, gutters, street lights, sidewalks. Some streets show signs of wear however the cracks were filled and that will stop pot holes. Good job on the street department. The residential area needs more street lights. The homeowner are keeping their yards free of trash. I would say they are taking care of their city. One other thing, tree planting projects. It was nice visiting.
Although it was not filmed I deployed last year with that National guard unit during the war with Russia and Ukraine to Poland on the border of Russia, you forgot to show the ARMY AND USMC have bases out there and original del taco.
You have to understand they still have it better living here than most of people in Los Angeles and in Mexico. These are mostly Hispanic native people who knows how to cherish and appreciate what they have and make good of their lives. This is far way better than living in Israel and Gaza.
I think most people live there for financial reasons. Also not everyone likes the hustle and bustle of city life and the traffic speaks for itself. I myself plan to retire and move up to Big Bear
I've driven through Barstow many times and honestly I found the place appealing. 10,000 times better than LA. I've always thought it was a place I could live. As for the crime, not a bonus, but not a dealbreaker either. Cost of living offsets crime.
Not just Barstow, but any dessert town, just is not the way I would want to live. Once, while in California, I visited dessert community near Big Lake, and the “scenery” was so depressing for a person used to greenery. On the other hand, the coastline is absolutely gorgeous and I envy people fortunate enough to live along the coast.
I move from Sacramento to Barstow in 2013 ( 13 yrs now ) and I notice that your description is totally wrong. Though there crime here but not what you said. In Main street lot of hotel side by side if it dangerous nobody will not stay there. Population is declining another wrong information from you in 2013 when I move here population is around 22,000 but now is 23,812. Fr 13 years I live here I never encounter any gang here if there is maybe from neighboring city. .. but the only thing I can say is Barstow is good for retired people..low cost of living.
Live in So. Cal. and hard to believe, very few homeless I seen, no blue plastic tents, no fun gals working the streets, residential tracts look pretty good. Better than LA County from my views.
I worked downtown Barstow when I was there. It was okay during the day, but at night you have to have your head on a swivel. I had 2 cars try to box me in and then they tried to steal my car one night. I’d never want to live there again.
lived there from 1960 - 1970 it was a decent place then....I remember cruising Main Street on Friday and Saturday nites. Del Taco had 6 Taco's for a buck on Monday nites
What a tour! I have unusual perspective since I have been privileged to stay at the Marine corps base, so security not an issue. My husband, as his dementia progressed, thought maybe he would transfer to the Veterans' Home of California on a rise to the Southwest. Along the way (my memory may not be exact) there is a County Library, a BLM facility, and a Junior College Branch. When there seemed to be a chance he might go down there, I looked at some pretty nice subdivisions up there on the hill above town. Almost 60's pop song "Down in the Boondocks" vs how is the crime rate up on the hill? I enjoyed the wide open desert skies and the distant railroad, but never had to stay. There is an appeal in the landscape....
I had thought about moving there. I was wanting to move into the Veteran's home. After watching this and seeing the facts, I will be looking for another location.
I think the crime statistics at the beginning of this video might be a bit skewed. In most cases, the violent crimes are between people that know one another. Victims of random violent crimes are extremely rare. I was born in California's high desert, not far from Barstow, and still live here 58 years later. I wouldn't dream of living anywhere else. It takes a special person to fully appreciate the desert which makes it easy for those who don't understand desert life to complain about it. My job frequently takes me to Barstow, sometimes for days at a time. I never mind going there because I feel as if I am still at home. I understand the people, the climate, and the lifestyle. Sure, the city has its problems which seems to be happening to all of the high desert. It has nothing to do with the city itself. It has everything to do with a liberal state governor that freely hands out welfare to anyone and then offers them an inexpensive place to live. Its also what happens when California's "soft on crime" policy lets people out of jail faster than the police can catch them. That happens all over California but is more noticeable in Barstow because of its smaller population. I would still walk unarmed through Barstow in the middle of the night without any fear of being a victim of crime.
I've been to Yermo, but the Del Taco is on 2nd St in Barstow. The original building is being used for storage, and there's a newer Del Taco right next to it.
I was born and raised in Barstow. When I turned 18 I left, never to go back unless to visit family. I haven't been back in several years. Looks way worse then when I lived there. Only thing I really miss is the Del Taco. lol
I'm from Texas, I live in a town in Floydada, Texas, there's a Dairy queen, General store, Subway sandwich house, Lowe's supermarket. And several Mexican restaurants. Rents are reasonable. You want to go to Walmart, you going to have to travel 26 miles to Plainview, Texas or to Lubbock, Texas where they have everything. You all have a nice day.
I lived in Hinkley,CA, 30 minutes away from Barstow. The outskirts of town if you will. Moved out the same week I graduated High school. Not that it was terrible just was young and missed San Diego,CA. It is insanely hot. Might get some snow in winter too. You get both extremes of weather. Have gone back once and I think Covid really hurt town. Saw more shops and places closed than before.
Used to be a great place to live and grow up in the sixties , to bad , I enjoyed growing up, about 150 yds. Off of West Hwy 66 between here and Victorville !!!
I went to Los Angeles with my girlfriend this summer as my last trip as a student from Japan. I was fascinated by many things, such as the culture, language, and lifestyle, which were completely different from those in Japan, but the most impressive thing was Barstow.
After sightseeing in Los Angeles, we found a desert town on the way to Las Vegas and decided to stay there and go to Las Vegas the next day. On the way to Barstow, we saw some amazing locations that we would never have seen in Japan, and we had to make a detour, so by the time we arrived in Barstow, it was nighttime. Early the next morning, I decided to drive a little further to see the sunrise, and the view of Barstow from the hilltop was a wonderful sight that I will never forget.
The city of Los Angeles and the night view of Las Vegas were wonderful, but for some reason, it was the sunrise I saw in Barstow that I remember the most.
If I ever go to the United States again, I would like to visit the desert city of Barstow again！
Wow that was an awesome experience 👍
Those may be the kindest, most eloquent words ever written about poor, bedraggled Barstow.
If you come back go somewhere else aside from California. That's the last place in America most of us would recommend you go. Los Angeles is a trash pile.
No one has ever said anything like that about Barstow.
"I'm not goin back to Barstow"
I was born in Los Angeles but when I was one year old my parents moved to Barstow. That was in 1947. I lived there until I was 22 years old in 1970. I am a baby boomer and Barstow was growing like crazy when I was a kid. They were building houses everywhere and schools too. Everyone knew everyone else in high school was a blast. I am sad to see the condition that it is currently in. I wouldn’t move back there, but, I wouldn’t change a thing about growing up there.
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Best Del Taco
@@terryturner3050haha that’s the original one right? They put the whole tomato on some of the food I think
Just another dirty ca oven
@@SubjectDredd Yermo was the first, it's a burger joint today. Barstow is same owner as Yermo met the man and his wife hope there ok today. Moved 4 years ago never live there again.
I am fascinated with life in small obscure towns like this.
Can be a little boring I think.
Me too!
Cheap!
@pudster4115 same here. I really enjoy exporing small towns.
the funny thing is Barstow is not "obscure" at all. Its the biggest stop between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. The fact that it has not developed at all is so weird, seems like a place that should grow just from its location alone.
I currently live in Barstow and the next day I moved in 2 guys tried to break in. I have had one guy break-in in the middle of the night at the rear of the house but the Dog scared him away. There are only 3 real grocery stores in the area and people tell me to stay away from two of them due to car break ins and robberies. I dont live in the best but not the worst neighborhood and mail/package theft is a problem and even had a clay planter stolen. Homeless and drug addicts are everywhere along with prostitution. You do have the older and aging population that are good people but they're aging out and the rift raft from LA are being sent up to replace them in the High Desert as its called. One small pet peeve that I have comes from the parking laws and lack of enforcement stemming from people having 3 or more cars parked up and down the street infront or yours and neighbor home's that have flat tires and the city doesn't deal with. Just to name a few issues. I can go on but this sums up the issues that I see. To make a point jobs are centered around service jobs mainly fast food and the like or the Railroads or the military istallation 40 miles away for meaningful employment. The medians that were given I feel don't correctly give a true feel for the market as most homes a lot higher but the law of averages drag down the prices of the real homes that are worth the while of the ones that have jobs that allow home ownership. After 3 years and all the complaints I am only waiting on a better job to open up in another state that would allow me to leave this area.
Oh wow! 😲
I unfortunately live here and it is a dump. Can not wait to leave.
@@scottdudley5170at least you get plenty of good trains!
were is there a SAFE place to stay in Barstow any suggetions what streets if any Thank You
@Joe-ng5ez As in travelings through or moving to?
I grew up in Barstow, graduated from Barstow Union High School in 1960. Back then it was a very nice place to be and live in. I left to join the Air Force in 1962. Too bad it's gone the way it has.
Used to be a great little town in the 60s and 70s
The section 8's and homeless didn't help along with poor city management
And the drugs
@@stevesmith756most certainly is a tweaker town.
@@mreppen1 oh so true
Been there. Desert cities in Cali are so depressing and sketchy.
And so hot 🥵 it’s over 100-110F
Palm springs might be better
Piss stop.
Piss stop and Barstow Aztec Football
Sketchy in Utah, Nevada and elsewhere too.
In 1980 I was working for the state in the California Conservation Corps and got stationed to a camp in Barstow. It was a huge shock as I drove my bike into town the first time and made my way to a re-purposed elementary school on rimrock rd, that was then a state work camp. Up to then, I was lucky enough to have been stationed at a few fire camps located in the most beautiful areas of Ca. The camp in Barstow seemed like being in hell, compared to those. But, after some time there, I got used to the never ending sounds of trains, the winds, extreme temps and dust. Me and my crews did some interesting projects at some unique sites. Like building the rock wall around the cemetery at Calico Ghost Town, trail work at Afton Canyon, etc. Barstow wasn't so bad after all, as I remember a lot of fun with unrestricted riding, desert parties with the locals, and the wacky water park on I-15...
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The Walmart Store and the McDonald's train station in Barstow are the main sights worth seeing in Barstow. I used to live near that McDonald's train station. It was from 1993 to 2011. I had to live there for the sake of my family's future. For desert it's a good one and pretty. It's extremely dry and wild cactus cannot grow there. It is a high altitude desert so in the winter it's extremely cold with an occasional light dusting of snow. At night it would be 15 - 20 degrees F. for weeks. It was far to dry to put down any real snow. In the summer it would be 120 F. for 2 or 3 weeks during the hottest part of the season. Without humidity it's not as bad as one would think. We'd have three weeks of great weather for spring and three weeks in fall. Barbecuing for Easter there is the custom! Rest of the year the weather was bad and we all had to stay inside. Humidity was so, so low not many places had air conditioning. Swamp coolers worked great, though. It's a very windy desert too. The soil is finer than talcum powder and is being inhaled all the time. I had pneumonia 4 times the first 4 years we lived there. Lots of fungus, viruses and bacteria in that inhaled soil. Soil is so alkaline nothing much can grow in it unless lots of topsoil is replaced, which works well. The water is very alkaline too. There were big full blown sand storms (haboobs) that showed up a couple of times a year. Most people didn't dust inside their homes. I lived in Barstow, accomplished a great deal for my family and my life, but I don't want to live there again if I can help it. The sober people were great. Thank you for a very accurate video. It's great to see familiar places.
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First time I walked in Barstow Walmart, I felt like I was in a FarSide cartoon. Very strange looking people.
Alright, I got a story. I live in Vegas and one day I got a message from this dude who says he’s from Vegas too but he’s been living in Barstow for the past year because he’s a construction worker and working at Ivanpah, building the solar shit. He asked me if I wanted to hang out. He’d request the weekend off & come pick me up to take me out there. Just a couple days to hang out, cuz “there ain’t shit to do out here” he told me. I didn’t know if this was a kidnapping/murder plot or what and I really wondered why he thought Barstow was the appropriate place to spend the weekend but for some fucking reason I agreed.
I ended up staying two weeks. When it was time for me to go, he drug up his job and took his ass back to Vegas. We’ve now been together nine years and we have twins. We really fell in love with each other in Barstow. We spent the best time getting to know the ins and outs of each other, without any distractions, in all the spots you shown in this video. I was never bored. The 99 Cents store where we bought matching coffee mugs, the laundry mat, where we washed his work clothes and ate Chinese food next door while waiting. The Walmart made me feel like a kid back in the 90s because it hasn’t been remodeled like all the ones in Vegas are. We sat there & made each other bust out laughing cuz we were there alone at the lil donut shop, watched our first movie together @ the spot there, I got cool shit at the antique mall that we still have in our home & we spent 2 whole minutes exploring the entire museum. The fuckin food 4 less gas station was my fav to people watch. Who cares that it only took two days to go through the entire town and then we had to do it all over again..I dug it. Any place we could go, we explored. If I was with anyone else, I probably would’ve hated that place and felt like a fish outta water..but I had a killer time. I think that’s how I knew he was the one.
I LOVE Vegas. Born & raised..but it was hella nice to be somewhere for once that was chill, we could get anywhere in a few mins, nothing was packed & at times we were the only ones there. Shit was affordable. Where his spot was, was QUIET at night. It was just a trip to me. It didn’t have any of the big city stresses, so it was a much needed break and i appreciated that aspect.
Anytime I hear “Barstow” I cheese up. That’s the city of love baby! (for us anyway lmao) Whenever we’re on our way to LA. We always have to stop and take a quick drive through and go to a few places for nostalgia purposes while holding hands and giggling like freaks. I’ll always adore Barstow, it’ll forever hold a special place in my heart. & I’ll forever defend it. We literally just celebrated our wedding anniversary on Halloween so I love that I just stumbled across your video. Thank you🥹❤️
Wow, that’s an awesome story! 👍👍👍
I'll be forever baffled by people who are bored by places. Any places. To my eyes, we get from a place what we summon from within ourselves. I'm entertained by spectacle yet I don't require a show to see one.
were is there a SAFE place to stay in Barstow any suggetions what streets if any Thank You
I used to enjoy going to Barstow back in the seventies for the Barstow to Vegas motorcycle desert races. Barstow was a lot busier back then.
It’s a good stopping point between LA and Las Vegas
I lived in Barstow for five years. It was scorching hot and utterly depressing. Stepping outside in the summer felt like standing directly in front of an oven with the door flung open. Nothing but bone-dry heat. While the initial beauty of the majestic beige and brown scenery was captivating, the year-round monotony drove me crazy. Living in the desolate desert, devoid of the lush green trees of the southern states, made me yearn to escape.
Totally understandable
I've been here 2 years. I hated it in the beginning. Love seeing the stars at night now. Still hate the sandstorms, love the desert cold though.
I was stationed at Fort Irwin in 1967. Barstow seemed smaller then, bu not as run down. Seemed like a nice quiet little town with not much to do. Fort Irwin was 35 miles from Barstow, or, as we used to say, 35 miles from nowhere.
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I was an Air Traffic Controller in the Army, stationed at Fort Ord from 1977 - 79.
We came out to Daggett airport for 2 field exercises, Braveshield XVI and XVII. It was for about 2 weeks each time. Slept in GP medium tents. The helicopters were based there, and flew to Fort Irwin to play in the games, and came back to Daggett in the early evening. We worked in our portable control tower to run the airport.
For the first one (XVI), I had the "privilege" of being in the advanced party of about a dozen guys who got to come a week early to set up ALL the tents for the entire 7th Aviation battalion. For all the troops living quarters, mess hall, aid station, supply storage, headquarters, etc. It was burning hot. We worked in the blazing sun the first day. It almost killed us. The Captain in charge had a meeting with everyone, and we got to vote on how to proceed. We decided to start working at first light until around 11:00 AM, and then rest in the shade of the hanger on our cots until around 4 PM, then work to sundown. That worked out a lot better.
The best part was being able to go to the Marine Corp logistics base in Barstow to eat in their mess hall. So much better than Army mess halls.
Our tents were kind of off by ourselves, away from the main "tent city", because we needed a good view of the runways, and to also be located next to the FAA Flight Service Station. We were able to head off into Barstow on fast food runs, and went to the local high school to see a fireworks show on July 4th. So, we got to sneak off to do things most of the other soldiers couldn't.
Another time, we also spent a couple of weeks at Fort Irwin to support another field exercise. This time in actual barracks. Had a pretty good time there.
I was born there and lived there most of the 35 or so years I lived in California (also lived in Lenwood and Yermo a bit). I loved my town of Barstow until about 1993; that's when things started to change a little bit and it slowly started going downhill. By about 1998 it was a nowhere, no-count, nothing of a town, but it was still tons better than what it became in the 2010's and beyond. Thanks for making this video. Despite the depressing info you graced us with, it was neato to see what is still there, what's been replaced with something else or what isn't there and hasn't been replaced with something else. This video was both depressing and fascinating at the same time, like an episode of "Hoarders".
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Hell no
Was in Barstow for fuel 2 weeks ago.
Sketchy beggars all over the streets. While I was in buying lotto tickets, the checker got a call from another gas station saying 6 thugs had walked thru and stolen a shit load of stock.
Ate at Inn N Out, and had to search (and wait) for a parking place where I could watch my pick up truck through window while eating.
The staff at Inn N Out were great young service oriented people. So great that I called out the staff for their good service, loud enough for everyone to hear.
All the patrons gave them applause and thumbs up.
The staff appreciated the recognition.
I’m going to make a habit of doing that when I see good service anywhere.
Especially in the midst of a crumbling shithole like Barstow.
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I believe you went to the In-N-Out at the former Outlet. That out have more non-local people.
Ive lived here since birth, im now 19. Its bad but only cause its boring, if you don't involve yourself with negative ppl and actions then the absolute worst thing youll run into in barstow is HEAT AND BOREDOM! STOP OVER EXAGGERATING PLACES ESPECIALLY IF YOU DONT LIVE THERE
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I love your attitude. There are good people everywhere.
You’re only 19 bud
When you grow up , get back to us .
@@Peewyld And your 20 so?
Nobody talks about the good things barstow does like the christmas toy for cop they do every christmas eve. The police, firefighters, businesswoman and men, all come together and go down nearly every street with thousands of toys for kids who dont get a chance to experience a good christmas
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I ride road guard in the toy drive and my wife gives out toys from the truck bed. I won’t use names but that retired officer had kept this going for many many years now.
Thanks for the tour I go thru Barstow when I take the wife to Nevada either Las Vegas or Laughlin, but living in Los Angeles I avoid the 15 and I take Highway 66 from Victorville so you showed me a lot that I never knew existed but yet you didn’t show the famous Harvey house hotel and train station if I remember correctly, the Del taco restaurants in Barstow served good food for fast food place that is thank you once again as for living in Barstow, it’s too hot and too windy for this old man, but I sure would like it just because of the railroad activity
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the original del taco restaurant (or a sign indicating so) is visible at 11:08. Fun Fact: Barstow residents grew up with the original Del Taco #1, and when Taco bell put two restaurants at either end of Main Street, they survived for just a few years before going out of business. Why would you go to Taco Bell when there was a Del Taco Macho Beef Burrito in your future???
Robert Peterson , founder of Hot Rod Magazine and the Peterson publishing empire grew up in Barstow.
This city has enormous potential for growth and positive development
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yes, Amazon warehouses.
@4KTravelChannel
Ill take Barstow over California City any day of the week!
@papagen00
Ill take Barstow over California City any day of the week!
NOOO, I do not want to buy your Barstow house. lol
Excellent video! Thanks for the captions and allowing me to see and hear the sounds!
Glad you enjoyed it!
i grew up there. my dad was a high-ranking officer at the base there, so when i was little i was kind of feared/respected because i was "so-and-so's kid", but when my parents divorced, i was the 'kid living with a single mom' which in the 60s, was a Very Bad thing. As soon as i graduated from John F. Kennedy high school, i was outta there, and never looked back. The only things i miss the smell of mesquite after a rainshower, and the constant steady wind - you could fly a kite any day of t he year.
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I lived on George AFB while in the service from 1969 thru 1971. It was not a pleasant time there although it was the place where I met the kindest guy I ever met in my entire life. That was 1971, so Barstow for me is a wonderful part of my life. (thank you my friend) You worked the the diner at the old train station. I was covered in oily steel shavings having just hopped the train in Bakersfield which was empty. It was one of those trains cars without a roof which was so light that I had to stand to whole time holding to the top of the 'bucket' because the car so violently bounced around, that I had to use my knees as a spring to keep me from being thrown around the car which would have killed me and I had to keep holding my breath through the tunnels or I would have been asphyxiated and I had no way to know how long the tunnels were. I just had to hope the tunnels weren't too long and there were a lot of them. He took me under his wing, let me use his shower got my clothes washed, fed me and sent me on my way.
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Been to Barstow many times, but never really INTO Barstow. Usually just roughly the midway point for anyone travelling between LA and Las Vegas, and most will just stop on Lenwood Avenue and eat at one of the two dozen or so eateries (all chains like Jersey Mike's, Starbucks, In-N-Out, McDonald's, etc.) and also gas up at any of the multiple (way overpriced) gas stations.
Back in the 90s, the outlet mall was a big draw, since those things were relatively uncommon then, but now it just happens to be a smallish town in the desert at the intersection of two major Interstates.
I grew up in Barstow. I graduated from Barstow High in 2001. I moved away a few years later & after many years in Indiana, I reluctantly moved back to Barstow. It had gotten much worse from when I left! Like 3 of my favorite restaurants to go to were gone. During the time I live there for the 2nd time, Sizzlers closed, Churches Chicken closed & Big K Mart closed. Plus there was either a murder happened within the city limits or a murder wanted from some other state was found living in Barstow for like the 1st 5 years that I lived there. Sadly, EVERY TIME Barstow takes a step forward, it ends up taking like 3 steps back in a few years. I finally moved away again( after almost 9 years of living there). I moved to a town in Arizona. I’m sad to say I wouldn’t move back to Barstow even if I was GIVEN my dream home on my dream property!
Sadly, Barstow has gone down hill( & sadly, seems to KEEP going down hill)!
There ARE good things about Barstow( such as the interesting museums & the great hiking)……………
Plus, there’s a church for pretty much ANY religion in Barstow.
Sadly, I don’t think the good things outweigh the bad about it.
There are A LOT of crazy people there( mainly because of the drugs…………..SOME do have mental health issues which is sad they don’t have enough places to help those kinds of people. There isn’t even a mental hospital there! Heck even the local hospital doesn’t have a psych ward! It’s more of a glorified band aid station)!
I’m glad that I got out & I’d NEVER move back(MIGHT go back to visit, but, NEVER to live there)!
DEFINITELY needs to become better for me to move back( which I sadly HIGHLY DOUBT will happen)!
Well, this happened to 1000s of small towns, especially in the desert where employment opportunities are minimal.
I hear Barstow Mall closed down a few years ago and then reopened as office space. Lake Dolores Water Park a.k.a. Rock a Hula Park closed down too. That was years ago.
@@midcenturymodern9330 as far as I know, Barstow Mall is still open. All of the other places in the parking lot of Barstow Mall rent from Barstow Mall. Yes, Lake Deloris closed years ago because of lack of funds to keep it open. Same thing with the indoor swimming pool in Barstow. Bun Boy is also gone. Along with Churches Chicken, Sizzlers, Coco’s, Carrow’s, Big Kmart, RideAid, & the bowling alley. Oh, & the El Rancho Motel has burned down.
Well at least it's closer to Vegas 😅
@@magneto1764 yes, it is closer to Vegas.
But, the city I moved to(Bullhead City, Arizona)is even closer to Vegas.
Are used to live in Hisperia. I lived over on third and Willow. My mom and dad bought a house there and that’s where we lived . I sure did love it there. It was a nice quiet cool quiet little town. There was always something to do. Well now that I am older a lot older now than I was when I was living there. But I’m glad to see the town is still doing good. I may have to get back up there Sunday and have a look around. It’s not too far from where I’m at now. Thanks for the video. Have a great day.👍🏼👍🏼😁😎
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We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs begun to take hold
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Excellent Hunter S Thompson reference.
Well done.
I love Barstow I lived there in the 60s and 70s it was a great place to be a kid
Indeed, used to be a great place
Was stationed at Fort Irwin back in the early '90s. The town was much busier then, McDonald's and the mall was crowded and the new outlet mall in Lenwood would be PACKED on weekends, especially the Levi's and Hanes stores. Had a larger selection of restaurants also. You could go dancing at Shakers or Ruby's but not any more. Now it's like a shell of what it once was. Sad.
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I grew up in Barstow. My parents and grandparents ran the A&C Cafe, Katz, and the Beacon Bowl Coffee shop. It was a really nice place back then, but I guess it has deteriorated.
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I used to go to katz also there was a pool hall next door i believe i bowled at the beacon bowl i lived out on 58 also in dagget there was a cafe called the chili bowl on 58 just over the bridge i had a buddy that lived in the bottoms i worked at the marine base from 1974 to 1978 FJB
@@jamesheath5825I was born and raised in Barstow. I remember the Chile Bowl and Loyds Cafe was down the road
I lost my wedding ring down one of the pockets of the pool table in Katz bar in 1974 FJB
@@chuckyjules8488 i used to go to the chilli bowl also and there was a little bar down the road can't remember the i also used to go to the gray stone out by the base i worked at yermo base for 5 years FJB
😮😮 Great channel and videos
Let’s people see it’s a big world out there to explore!!
Thank you! And you are right about that 👍
Let's not forget the world's best Del Tacos
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One of the very few positives!
I've been there several times to visit cousins that once lived there.
To me it wasn't bad. A little windy and dusty but I liked it.
Being from Chicago , and seeing true dumps like Philly , Baltimore , Newark , Detroit , etc. , Barstow isn't near that level of suckiness.
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I live in Cincinnati and drove across the country to Cali by myself in 2011. Barstow was the first town I stopped in. Pretty sure I stayed the night at the Quality Inn. Not gonna say which one... but there was a large group of biker club members who were obviously patiently waiting for someone on both sides of the outside lobby entry door. Having just arrived on a whim from a long ways away, I figured they weren't waiting for me and proceeded to check in. All went normal from there and that's my whole side of the story, but I've always wondered what the rest of the story was. Just a few days later I went through a bad dust storm on I-10 near Picacho Peak, AZ. It looked like an apocalyptic scene on another planet and a bunch of people lost their lives that day. Instead of going back toward Cali, I opted to go back to my familiar Ohio home. That was definitely the biggest mistake I ever made in my life. 😐😂
Oh wow!
I live 10 miles from Pichaco Peak. My coworkers two kids, aged 14 & 16, died in a car crash in I-10 when two Semis pit their car because of the zero visibility of the Haboob (Sandstorm). No matter where you are, our life must go on.
Good thing you are keeping which quality in you write about a secret probably avoided a crises 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I lived in Barstow in '92...my brother was stationed at Ft. Irwin not too far away. There was gang activity back then with the Main Street Crips and the Bishop Bloods. I remember the Peace Treaty party that did turn out so well. I moved to Baker, Ca after that.
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That's about when I escaped Barstow as a freshman at BHS..and yes I remember that peace treaty shit show..lol.. been in Glenville GA, close to Fort Stewart , ever since. Much better😂
The house I grew up in was on Sunrise rd with the church of scientology in the back yard..crazy place
California desert towns have a very distinct flavor of depression to them. Driving that stretch between Bakersfield and Barstow during Summer is always a harrowing experience. It’s all so sad and empty, and so unimaginably hot I can’t even put into words just how hot it is. You break down in the wrong area out there, you’re as good as dead.
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Yeah, those are hardscrabble towns. For me, the weirdest desert town in California is Trona. It's very isolated and smells odd. The movie "A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night" was shot there.
People who know the desert bring extra water and if youre used to the heat all you need is water and some 50 sun screen
Yea I think ur driving in the outskirts of Bakersfield, Cause Bakersfield is the 9th Most Populated Cities in CA
@@EdDunkleDrove through Trona about 20 years ago on my way to Death Valley. I'll tell you - I was never so creeped out in my life as the handful of minutes it took to drive through that little hamlet. It really had that "The Hills Have Eyes" vibe to it.
I think Barstow is an important city. After you've driven across the high desert from Kingman toward Los Angeles, one of the most beautiful sights is *any* city, and Barstow is it. A darn shame the crime is so high. +1
I was stationed at Fort Irwin for 2 years when I was in the Army, 1990-1992. Couldn’t stand my boss (total jerk) so I’d “escape” to Barstow when I had the opportunity. I was lucky to meet a lass who was working as a civilian at Irwin and had a place in Barstow. That certainly made things more pleasurable. Thoroughly enjoyed traveling the off road trails in the desert with my 4x4. Saw thousands of desert tortoises, and lots of snakes and lizards. The Chuckwalla’s, or desert iguanas, were interesting creatures. And of course there plenty of coyotes but you tended to hear them more often than see them. Barstow wasn’t too bad then, but not really a place where I’d choose to live. It was a bit too hot and remote for me.
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I was born in Barstow, we lived in Lenwood, my dad worked at the Marine Corps Logistics Base. this was late 50's.
our back yard was the desert
It is a great place to be from.
Lucky you! You have seen better days of this town.
A 99c store that size says it all
That’s a great store )
i used to live in Barstow Were going against Barstow high school tommarow first game of the season
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Interesting to have viewed what you drove. However there are a lot of residential areas and a few parks I would like to have seen. There was once a lot of greenery in yards, the older areas just south of main street had old growth trees, elm for the most part but the area was full of shade. The area south of the old Barstow High on Buena Vista Ave had nice yards and landscaping too, same for the old western residential areas of Flora Ave, Buena Vista, Nancy street all looked better than what I saw in this video. And Foglesong Park in the old western residential area, near what was the middle school and the public pool was a very old and attractive park, had little league ball fields and abundant space with lots of trees for family outings. This video makes the place look like the day after doomsday for cryin' out loud...shame it is so. That used to be a busy and growing town, always survived on the travelers dollar, Vegas travelers depended on the gasoline and car repair facilities, eateries and lodging. The Military contributed big, the USMC logistics supply base at Nebo and the Army training center at Fort Irwin. Railroad always has always been a major cog in the economy there. I just can't get over how run down the entire area looks. I started life there in 1949, moved away in 1973 after finishing college. Last time there was 1991. Never was night life there except us kids cruised main street for kicks, but we always complained of boredom because there was nothing to do. Truth is depends on what your interests be, there is lots of wide open land to explore, rock hunt, dirt bike, off road vehicles.
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I recall the Barstow to Vegas (B to V) dirt bike r 1:48 races each November. Only time I was ever near J. N. Roberts, the desert fox and Steve McQueen ( Lipschitz was his " riding name". Good times.
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Did anyone notice the streets and side streets of Barstow look relatively orderly and clean. You don't see piles of trash all over the place. Nor did I see homeless encampments, which surprised me but then again the 120 degree summer might have something to do with it. This means the residents of Barstow as a group still take pride and dignity in their community.
Say what you will about the small police force in Barstow. But it can call upon other resources outside of Barstow if it has to. In a hypothetical apocalypse where the local law enforcement fades away, the local gangs would fight it out for supremacy. A strongman leader would arise in the victorious gang. Barstow would become one of those fictional apocalyptic towns where residents are ruled under the iron fist of the local strongman and his gang of vicious, repugnant, avaricious henchmen. So be glad that Barstow has a functioning police department.
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I feel like they could have added some parks or something to break some of the monotony. I have passed by and driven in barstow and never got a good impression of it
Park maintenance requires money I think.
My family moved here last year in 2022. This place is so bleek that it is what you make it. Meaning if you are looking outside of yourself, your family or your home for happiness then you will be disappointed to the point of s$&@“-?: the people are weird and there is no culture. I’m an artist so I feel compelled to leave this place (ASAP) a little better than when I arrived (not by choice but circumstances).
Yes you can move if it doesn't work for you. It's a small town.
You summed it up perfectly well. I just moved here six months ago and absolutely hate this place. There's ZERO jobs! If it wasn't for making pennies online I wouldn't be able to feed my elderly parents. We only moved here because it was literally all we could afford in the state... it was "too good to be true" but now I just wait and pray that I can one day leave after my parents pass away.
I have been to Barstow through out my life, and this city growing so fast, from a little desert town to the international bus stop. It has been non stop growing since the late 90s.
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I stayed in the WalMart parking lot for 2 nights at the beginning of this year. Went to the laundry by the 99 cent store during the day.
I've been through there a number of times, never had a problem, although there were plenty of sketchy people at the WM during the night.
I think if you like the desert it would be a good place to live. The arra is not just flat desert. It was/is a mining area with rolling hills and some decent peaks near by.
If l was to live there it would be out of town.
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I live in BARSTOW and thanks to the "little or no nightlife" we aren't ranked in the "top 5" of dangerous CA cities.
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Out of curiousity, what is your occupation? The city's main sustenance seems like it'd be travelers to and from Vegas.
@@GoodCharms The “higher” paying jobs in Barstow include working at Ft Irwin/Nebo annex/BNSF rail yard, working for the city via police dept/firefighter etc.
Don't know if its changed but the AM/PM gas station just off the interstate always seemed to have the cheapest gas in socal.
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I lived there back in the middle 90s... I lived at 1000 zion Dr. I really miss the weather in the desert. I then moved to Ludlow for a few years and then back to Oklahoma
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My 1964 Dodge station wagon was from Barstow. The metal of the car was nicely preserved but the interior was pretty well baked.
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I lived in Linwood in the 70’s. Went to Barstow High school. There wasn’t a lot to do there back then.
It’s a small town with a few employment opportunities
Lenwood not Linwood
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE DOES THE THOROUGH REVIEW/TOUR OF A CITY OR TOWN. YOUR VIDEO IS VERY INFORMATIVE. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
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Grew up there. Left in 1972 at 15 to Orange County. Was a cool place for a kid back then.
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It must be great if you work for the railroads there -- BNSF or UP.
I think so
@@kuckoo9036 I understand that BNSF recently announced that they would be investing some $1.5 BILLION to turn their Barstow operation into a major inland distribution center. They already have a major yard there. That's quite a big injection of money, and that will also bring in a lot of new jobs, leading to demand for new housing, medical facilities, etc.
In the 70s it was Santa Fe RR
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive
That's not a good sign...
I lived there from late 99-2021 was a nice town for the first several yrs but went south. I’m glad I moved back to my home state
Wise decision 👍
@4kTravelChannel yes it was and the best! That town became a hell whole and it was hard to live in.
I remember driving through Barstool on I-15 when it was just a couple of motels and truck stop gas stations. Always remember sand blowing under the restroom door on one of my bathroom breaks.
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The MAIN problem with Barstow is the Government keeps opening and closing Fort Irwin. That's why the population and the crime rate keeps going up and down, The military is in and out and not steady enough to keep the riff raft out and doing what they do. Barstow doesn't have or really need a night life because it's so close to L.A., everyone will just go into the city to what they want to do.
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Fort Irwin has not been closed for years. They just expanded NASA and NTC is now the location of choice for large scare training. It’s there to stay but most of those folks live in Apple Valley.
@@averageamericangirl6819 I spent 21 years in the Army and while It's not "closed" it's not exactly "open"either, it's a training center, there are no line units there anymore, there's only 4400 soldiers and 4200 ish civilians even stationed there as opposed to 1970 before they closed it for a decade in 71 when there was 65,000 Soldiers, there's more soldiers and civilians that work on the National Guard Post that I grew-up 30 miles from.
@@TheREALOC1972 i literally was just stationed there recently. They have expanded NTC’s role in national security. The base will be open long after we are gone.
@@averageamericangirl6819 Once again.... it's not REALLY open, It's JUST a training base, the soldiers that are stationed there are adminstrative/overseer duties only, There's no Infantry units there, No Field Artillery, No ADA, there's literally JUST admin and medical staff.
Barstow, Calif. is the Pits, lived there for two years, never was so glad to leave it.
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Barstow’s on the route we take from the SF Bay Area to Vegas. Our first trip was in 1979. We decided to spend the night there. The hotel was ok, but not much in the way of decent food. That pretty much never changed. About the only reason to stop in Barstow now is for gas and a pit stop.
But hey, it’s better than Boron.
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What's happening in Boron? Is it bad also?
@@dobbs1947 only thing I’ve found in Boron is a decent gas station that has clean bathrooms (Love’s Travel Sop). Other than that, Boron lives up to the “bore” part of its name.
Moved out June 14, 1971, won't ever move back. Much worse now.
I totaly agree
If you ever drive through Barstow, stop at Platas off Irwin Rd and get a bean and cheese (mild)
You will NOT be sorry. My family has had me fly with Platas across the country, it's that good.
I lived in Barstow and here are the highlights: The food at some spots, (Platas, Del Taco, Weinerschnitzel, In N Out, and the Denny's in Lenwood) The Drive-In, Rainbow Basin, cruise down Main St., see Barstow Station, drive by the Harvey House, and then keep it moving.
Thank you, will definitely try a bean and cheese next time I'm in Barstow! 👍
I wouldn't live in Barstow due to the extreme heat during the summer. I live in San Diego and the cost of living is much higher. However, the weather is really nice over here and there are a lot of things to do in the City.
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Im one of the few guys that go out there to work door to door for spectrum. I enjoy it because i feel like im apart of the community & alot of the people i sell to remember me & really appreciate the discounts i give them. More greatful than victorville hesperia & apple valley by far. I respect barstow.
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Thanks for posting this video. I'm planning to be in California next week and thinking of doing a daytrip into Barstow which is about an hour drive away from where I'm staying. Was a little concerned about the crime issue you mentioned. Hopefully I won't be affected if I just visit for a few hours during the daytime.
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Why would you chose to go to Barstow??
There is nothing to see but depression.
Why ?
@markme4 Exactly! Maybe stop for gas on the way to anywhere else.
Two perks for Barstow. 1, lots of open road to drive with the throttle open. 2, OG Del Taco location with secret menu items.
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Hand out CCW permits to law abiding citizen's. That would put a dent in the high crime rate. An armed society is a friendly society.
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Thanks for sharing the information. Sound scary to live there or even to visit.
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The thing about all these desert cities (I live in Upland which is 40 mins away from the high desert) is that there are hardly any jobs up there. Many of the population from the high desert drive down to the IE or Los Angeles for work. The only work you can find in the desert is retail or fast food. That region needs job development badly to become a better living state.
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1 pro you missed, is that you don’t have to smog your vehicles out there.
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This is the type of city where they shoot those indie flick murder movies.
That's right!
I have been going through Barstow for 60 years. No jobs there now. As someone wrote, many of the better and inexpensive local restaurants have closed. A number of vets retired out there because of the lower cost of living. They are disappearing while, as some one says, the rift raft from LA has moved in.
Clearly, the construction of the freeway killed all the businesses on the city portion of Route 66. There is the old highway continuing south to Victorville. It is like going back in time. As soon as a modern highway came in, time froze. No more people getting cars and tires repaired or stopping for a bite to eat.
Unfortunately this has happened to hundreds of small desert towns like this one...
I lived in Barstow from like 94-97, went to Thompson elementary school and barstow middle school, it looked nothing like this, only thing I remember there was a Kmart shopping center and on the left side was food 4 less and I think a dmv on the same plaza. Looks like it population doubled and more fast food chains moved in as well.
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It looks like the city government is active in keeping a clean well planed city. The road are wide with curbs, gutters, street lights, sidewalks. Some streets show signs of wear however the cracks were filled and that will stop pot holes. Good job on the street department. The residential area needs more street lights. The homeowner are keeping their yards free of trash. I would say they are taking care of their city. One other thing, tree planting projects. It was nice visiting.
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10:51 house on the right why would anyone purposely live in squalor? Is it a lifestyle choice? How hard it it to clean your house a little!
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Although it was not filmed I deployed last year with that National guard unit during the war with Russia and Ukraine to Poland on the border of Russia, you forgot to show the ARMY AND USMC have bases out there and original del taco.
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My favorite pitstop from LA to Vegas and back, I’ve never had any issues but maybe I’ll think twice with the high crime rate 😮
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For the life of me, I can’t imagine why anyone would choose to live in these dismal places.
Only because of lower cost of living.
You have to understand they still have it better living here than most of people in Los Angeles and in Mexico. These are mostly Hispanic native people who knows how to cherish and appreciate what they have and make good of their lives. This is far way better than living in Israel and Gaza.
I think most people live there for financial reasons. Also not everyone likes the hustle and bustle of city life and the traffic speaks for itself. I myself plan to retire and move up to Big Bear
its cheap and its halfway between LA and LV. For some people that is what they are looking for.
for us, it was living in town or on the military base. i guess the housing was better in town?
It’s a cool lil historic town, not the nicest or safest but it’s a cool town
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I've driven through Barstow many times and honestly I found the place appealing. 10,000 times better than LA. I've always thought it was a place I could live. As for the crime, not a bonus, but not a dealbreaker either. Cost of living offsets crime.
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Not just Barstow, but any dessert town, just is not the way I would want to live. Once, while in California, I visited dessert community near Big Lake, and the “scenery” was so depressing for a person used to greenery. On the other hand, the coastline is absolutely gorgeous and I envy people fortunate enough to live along the coast.
Thanks for the input
I move from Sacramento to Barstow in 2013 ( 13 yrs now ) and I notice that your description is totally wrong. Though there crime here but not what you said. In Main street lot of hotel side by side if it dangerous nobody will not stay there. Population is declining another wrong information from you in 2013 when I move here population is around 22,000 but now is 23,812. Fr 13 years I live here I never encounter any gang here if there is maybe from neighboring city. .. but the only thing I can say is Barstow is good for retired people..low cost of living.
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do they have AOL dial-up and color TV's in Barstow?
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Live in So. Cal. and hard to believe, very few homeless I seen, no blue plastic tents, no fun gals working the streets, residential tracts look pretty good. Better than LA County from my views.
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I was born at Ft. Irwin in 55 and my family lived in Barstow. Was good then. Ashamed of it now, especially All of California!
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I worked downtown Barstow when I was there. It was okay during the day, but at night you have to have your head on a swivel. I had 2 cars try to box me in and then they tried to steal my car one night. I’d never want to live there again.
Wow that can’t be good, many people complain about safety in this town.
I remember driving thru there, saddest place I’ve ever been in
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lived there from 1960 - 1970 it was a decent place then....I remember cruising Main Street on Friday and Saturday nites. Del Taco had 6 Taco's for a buck on Monday nites
Good memories, the town was very different back then.
Because there is nothing to do in this town except eat, sleep, and bake!
You can also have a beer in a bar
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And get robbed
What a tour! I have unusual perspective since I have been privileged to stay at the Marine corps base, so security not an issue. My husband, as his dementia progressed, thought maybe he would transfer to the Veterans' Home of California on a rise to the Southwest. Along the way (my memory may not be exact) there is a County Library, a BLM facility, and a Junior College Branch. When there seemed to be a chance he might go down there, I looked at some pretty nice subdivisions up there on the hill above town. Almost 60's pop song "Down in the Boondocks" vs how is the crime rate up on the hill? I enjoyed the wide open desert skies and the distant railroad, but never had to stay. There is an appeal in the landscape....
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Lived there behind walmart in a house on chateau way its wlas too hot and hated them biting ants moved back home to TN in 2009
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I had thought about moving there. I was wanting to move into the Veteran's home. After watching this and seeing the facts, I will be looking for another location.
It's better to stay safe than sorry, good luck to you my friend!
I think the crime statistics at the beginning of this video might be a bit skewed. In most cases, the violent crimes are between people that know one another. Victims of random violent crimes are extremely rare.
I was born in California's high desert, not far from Barstow, and still live here 58 years later. I wouldn't dream of living anywhere else. It takes a special person to fully appreciate the desert which makes it easy for those who don't understand desert life to complain about it.
My job frequently takes me to Barstow, sometimes for days at a time. I never mind going there because I feel as if I am still at home. I understand the people, the climate, and the lifestyle.
Sure, the city has its problems which seems to be happening to all of the high desert. It has nothing to do with the city itself. It has everything to do with a liberal state governor that freely hands out welfare to anyone and then offers them an inexpensive place to live. Its also what happens when California's "soft on crime" policy lets people out of jail faster than the police can catch them. That happens all over California but is more noticeable in Barstow because of its smaller population.
I would still walk unarmed through Barstow in the middle of the night without any fear of being a victim of crime.
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One more fun Barstow fact: it's home to the original Del Taco.
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No that was in Yermo. About 10 minutes up the road from Barstow.
I've been to Yermo, but the Del Taco is on 2nd St in Barstow. The original building is being used for storage, and there's a newer Del Taco right next to it.
As we travel thru on our annual trips to Utah was always called Bar Stool....
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I was born and raised in Barstow. When I turned 18 I left, never to go back unless to visit family. I haven't been back in several years. Looks way worse then when I lived there. Only thing I really miss is the Del Taco. lol
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I'm from Texas, I live in a town in Floydada, Texas, there's a Dairy queen, General store, Subway sandwich house, Lowe's supermarket. And several Mexican restaurants. Rents are reasonable. You want to go to Walmart, you going to have to travel 26 miles to Plainview, Texas or to Lubbock, Texas where they have everything. You all have a nice day.
I will visit Texas in a month or so I think, can't wait.
I lived in Hinkley,CA, 30 minutes away from Barstow. The outskirts of town if you will. Moved out the same week I graduated High school. Not that it was terrible just was young and missed San Diego,CA. It is insanely hot. Might get some snow in winter too. You get both extremes of weather. Have gone back once and I think Covid really hurt town. Saw more shops and places closed than before.
Used to be a great place to live and grow up in the sixties , to bad , I enjoyed growing up, about 150 yds. Off of West Hwy 66 between here and Victorville !!!
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No, outside in New Berry springs is nice no gangs quiet🎉
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