Blair's former minister furious with 'Stalinist' treatment of Diane Abbott | LBC
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- "Stalinist, authoritarian and ugly."
A former Cabinet Minister under Tony Blair has described the handling of Diane Abbott's suspension as an ‘unforgivably disgraceful way of humiliating her and mistreating her.’
Clare Short told Andrew Marr that she is no longer a Labour member because she'll be voting Green in order to give the party 'a shake'. Under their rules, membership is stripped of anyone advocating voting for any party other than Labour.
Diane Abbott, meanwhile, has insisted she will stand as an MP following reports she has been "barred" by the leadership from standing under the party's banner.
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I love Claire Short. We are sadly missing people of her calibre in politics, Left or Right.
I agree ... Wish she was back in politics but she's probably sick to the back teeth of it.
@Fran I wholeheartedly agree. Most of our MPs just seem to be in post to enjoy the perks of the job and will support any dross their own party coughs up.
Abbott isn't incompetent.
Always loved Claire Short
Finally some truth, thank you Clare Short
Clare Short is what makes the Brits great, she really stuck up for Di. BRAVE woman, and for once an interview where it's not full of interruptions by the interviewer. Great historical examples.
Great to hear from Clare Short
Labour aren't stormingly popular, it's just that the Tories have become so unpopular.
Totally agree with you 👍 also the main stream media are a bunch of liars so we will have to wait and see. I honestly don't know anyone who is voting Labour or conservative. They are voting for green/ independent or George Galloway working party. 💪
ABOUT ON SAME LEVEL, REFORM ALL THE WAY. 100%.!!!!!
I agree 100% with everything this lady has said
Clare Short. A normal person, with a great talent.
Chrisum
A grown up
@@jake751 A leprachaun
Absolutely right. Her opinions on the authoritarian of the far left is absolutely spot on.
@@supereliptic can you clarify that?
Diane should stand as a independent.
The handling of the case was wrong, it shouldn't have taken so long. It was a deliberate move.
Seems Keir wants to move more of his people into roles.
Abbott is useless I once saw an interview with her when she was shadow home secretary they asked her who was foreign minister of France she could not answer she did not know his name..
She just announced she's running independent
@@MrLillywhite2011 then she can enjoy being expelled. What a silly and egotistical thing to do.
@Sunshinez732 diane Abbott has won her seat for 37 years with a large majority. Her constituents are happy with her which is what being a serving mp is all about.
100%
What Diane said is true. For her racism is omnipresent. As an Irishman, I've only ever experienced intermittent racism although I notice it has increased of late as England slips from its standards of equality.
She is right, skin is the only thing you can see from the other side of the road unless you are ultra orthodox, but her phrasing was clumsy at best.
She equated the racism that jews and Irish people experience to that of being a red-head. That was her actual take. Not sure why you lot are ignoring what she actually wrote.
not only that, she essentially said that the experience that black people face when it comes to racism is above all forms of other types of discrimination. That was what was implied from her article. It was shameful and honestly reflective of a lack of thought in the matter and a massive ego.
@@SplashTasty She didn't actually, although the comparison was clumsy. You should read the article.
And it is. Black people are the only people to have been enslaved on an industrial scale. It happened for 400 years. What other race or people have been so comprehensively denied life, liberty, and history?
@@user-sd3ik9rt6d I think clumsy at worst compared with "shaking off the fleas" which is despicable racism.
Refreshing and down to earth responses by Claire Short, and not fearful to call out the disgraceful lie against Jeremy Corbyn too.
You read my mind. Perfectly put.
Totally agree. I'll be voting Green and I live in a Labour/Tory marginal
I'm voting green because after 40 years of voting Labour I'm afraid of what they have become under keir starmer.
Yes electable must upset you hugely
@@Gary-le7dz I want a government I can trust not one that acts like the mafia.
@@jake751 there not in govt
@@Gary-le7dzProper English please. "They're not...". It's clear what Starmer's going to be like as PM. He'd be authoritarian and undemocratic. No need to wait till they're in power. We can all see it.
@Jake751 Same here, and as Claire said, Labour needs a shake!
What Dianne Abbott was doing with her "letter" was defining the difference between "prejudice" and "racism" which very people know. Because no-one had any idea what she as talking about, including CS here, they used it to try and destroy her. As the the right wing always does.
@Tranquilo But she failed miserably in defining a difference. That's why she's in this position of her own making!
@@chatham43 If she failed miserably go and do it yourself. Why should you think it is her job to teach you. Stop moaning and do something yourself. Everyone wants an easy life.
@Trev I'm not sure what her intent, but I think you will find others will disagree with you that some 'white' people do not experience racism, but merely face prejudice. Perhaps Abbott did not make clear that if you are not easily identifiable then it is possible to by pass the racism that might be applied to you? (I expect more from a Cambridge graduate...) Anyway, she may be better off out of the Labour Party since it has made life difficult for people who don't tow the party line. I doubt she would have been treated as she has by the Labour Party had she not been a 'black' woman. If I were Abbott I'd be tempted to cross the floor and join the Conservatives just to tick off Starmer & Co. 😉
@@chatham43 I think she was stiffed by Starmer and his cronies. She probably gave them the ammo, but Short is right in that the reaction to her crass remarks has been OTT. I felt sorry for Abbott when she admitted she'd been ill and that accounted for her previous mental clumsiness, but perhaps she should retire from politics? MPs do love to play in the mucky pigpen though...
@@edelgyn2699 thanks.
My great grand uncle was one of the first Labour MPs in Scotland Lanarkshire. We was a miner, autor and man against he First World War. He was brought into the macdonald government in the 20s. He will be turning in his grave with what is happening in the Labour Party. The party was always there to help the working class and over all be a social party there to help others.
Everything Clair Short said is 100% correct. I don't want the tories, but I can't stand this version of labour. Rotten to the core.
I don’t agree with you. Short is not being a friend to Abbott who can barely hold a microphone to her face because it shakes so much. Short has her agenda, LBC have theirs, and so do you !!! Looking forward to receiving your conscription papers through the door if the Tories get back in ?
So Diane has an illness that makes her hand shake, and you see fit to mock her? Shameful @californiadreamin8423
If you follow her lead you’ll end up with the Tories for 5 more years. I couldn’t stand Corbyn’s version of Labour but voted for them nonetheless because the alternative was worse and so it proved. Short is just as useless as Abbott and Corbyn.
@@californiadreamin8423show me a single poll which has the Tories winning
@@alidawson6118ignore California they are a vocal Starmerite
I'll be voting Green as well in Bristol.
The absolute state of British politics. If you're left, centre left or even centre, the only party you can vote for are the Greens.Insanity
Vote for Green or independent in England and Wales - Labour Party is a husk, morally bankrupt
@@stanleybeckett7705 go on waste a vote- it's your right.
@@brianharris7243 Worse: a green vote is a Tory vote; always has been.
Thankfully in Scotland we have the SNP
@@brianharris7243 The only wasted vote is voting for the politics you don't support.
Well articulated Claire ❤
Chrisum
Thank you Clare. It's so refreshing to hear someone from Labour speaking openly without second guessing their every sentence.
She said in the interview that she's not a member of Labour anymore
2 ears 1 mouth, for a reason....
In total agreement with everything Clare Short said. Think I will call the Labour leader "Sir Keir Stalin" from now on....
Yes, he's so like Stalin that he's put her in a gulag and she's not allowed to speak in public anymore. Oh wait...
That's what I just thought 😂
Think I'll join your campaign. Rolls off the tongue rather nicely too.
She spoke a lot of sense.
I voted for Labour in the last election, but I have changed my mind in these last few days. I will now vote for anyone but Labour, Reform and the sTories
Make 4th July our Independence Day. I just love saying that. I will be voting for an independent for sure.
I'm the same ❤ I'm voting green because they have an excellent candidate in my constituency. 😊
I think my dog is anti semitic. She devoured my bacon slice while I went to answer the door.
🥹😅😂🤣🥲
Did it wear a Palestinian flag?
I think my dog might be Catholic. He won't eat anything but fish sticks on Fridays.
Oh dear
😂😂😂😂
Well said Claire. Under Starmer we would not have had Nye Bevan bringing in the NHS. He would have said that there was no money after the war.
I won't vote for Labour while Starmer is the leader. I agree totally with what Claire is staying.
LBC criticised for giving Abbot so much air space let me retort they gave Andrew Bridgen equal time.
Keir Starmer is wrong. This is not Keir Starmer labour! You cannot change labour. To say if you don't like what I do😂 then leave shows an authoritarian leader. Starmer s not listening to it's core voters
Not listening to it's core voters, and yet 20+ points ahead in the polls.
In reality, he is listening to the core Labour voters, the ones who left the party under Corbyn, and that's why he's winning.
If there is no difference between labour and conservative then we are in trouble.
Oddly enough, all the airtime given to "they're all the same" only helps the Tories.
@@mickeythompson9537 Oddly enough, allowing right wing Tories to join the Labour party, while purging left wing members only convinces the public that "they're all the same"
@@robbie9629Oddly enough there are differences.
Zionist lobby has infiltrated both parties that’s the problem
@@iangascoigne8231oddly enough the Starmer fanboys fail to name a single significant difference
well said Claire, Yes, Vote Green it's the only real viable option
Yes, vote Green, and end up watching someone from Labour, LibDems or Conservatives win the seat.
@@bipolarminddroppings Don't be silly, in some places the result is a foregone conclusion because of the 'sheep' who always vote for the same party.
Green or independent/ workers party
@@edelgyn2699ok doubting Thomas
Clare Short is amazing & brave to speak out. Tony Blair didn't throw people out for being left.
The entire political system needs a shake. I will vote Labour but not in a positive way. We need better alternatives.
You won't shake the political system by voting Labour unless your area has some very weird candidates
Don't vote labour
Vote independent. Make 4th July our Independence Day ^^
Vote independent then. Why vote for an unethical party?
Oh dear 😳
I have a bad feeling about Starmer
He's been caught out in too many lies for my liking, we don't need another Boris.
@suh You mean by trying to win an election by purging the parasitic left?
me too.
As much as I dislike Sunak, Starmer seems worse in that he's similar to the other smarmy lying gits - Boris and Blair.
@@edelgyn2699 Vote Independent. Make 4th July our Independence Day (Independents Day).
Claire Short you understood exactly what Diane Abbott meant ,she expressed it maybe not the most acceptable way in delivery,however i like you agree with what she meant , it gave them the bone they needed to punish her,and push her out,
Who in their right mind would back labour now .....unless you are not kn your right mind .same men in grey suits no different from Tories two cheeks of the same backside .
Green got my vote after 40 years labour and my father 50 years .
Make 4th July our Independence Day.
@@gwynedd-1Independents' Day
But there IS a hierarchy of racism. Ask any coloured person. White passing is a term for a reason
Your on the right track , barrack Obama got in because he's mixed
That was beautifully put
Well said Claire
The Labour Party needs to get rid of these backroom university educated London centric advisors,Tory light
Why? Afraid they will win? 😂
@@nicks4934you’ve put a question after the will they win part of your sentence, meaning that you are not sure if they will win..
Do you mean Cambridge University educated, former back room advisors and Heads of Press and Public Relations to organisations like the Greater London Council and National Council for Civil Liberties?
@@leekelly9639 Learn English; integrate. 🤣
@@nicks4934win what? Anyone can win if you have money/ zero morals zero integrity.
Totallt agree with clare
Let's not forget that if you can ignore George Galloway's 'idiosyncracies' there is a truly Socialist Party to vote for - the Workers Party.
Is Starmer turning Labour into the New Conservative Party? 🤔
That's exactly what he's doing.
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@tony He's making Labour appear electable amongst the undecided. Ditching Abbott is a step in the right direction in achieving that aim.
No, he's making it the Old, New Labour party, you know, the only Labour government in the last 50 years?
Most of the country is in the centre, that is the nature of a spectrum, most people sit closer to the middle than the edges. Starmer has simply moved the party to where the voters are, hence why they're 20+ points up in the polls.
YES
Big up Claire short!
About time someone said this
Clare is spot on the country is so sick of these tories they will vote Labour to get rid of the tories like the did in 1997
Blair was the worst thing that happened before boris johnson. We don't want/ need either.
Starmer has shown his right wing ideology through his actions with Abbott. Ultimately it will end the Labour Party just as Brexit has ended the Tory party.
Agree, Labour's honeymoon period when they win the election will be short and their support is more about wanting to be rid of the Tories. If they cannot deliver change fast, they will be the party losing council seats next May.
Stop crying. The Allotment Trot is history. 😂
@@sebv1086 Seriously, that´s pathetic, anybody who just says "Trot" has nothing interesting to say.
@@Minimmalmythicist 🤣😂
@@Minimmalmythicist They are just saying it in a concise way
We stand with Diane Abbott!
We….
We?
Nope.
We don't.
somebody has to , as she needs help, unfortnatley not a well lady...
It would be yet another disastrous mistake if the country gives Labour a majority like they have the Tories. It will just be signing up for more years of misery and failure.
Well said Clare
I never understood why Brit’s don’t go more left. The conservatives and labor have both shown incompetence
Eh?
Media.
Living in a time a where the dominant ideology is free market capitalism and it becomes 'received wisdom'.
Corbyn was comprehensively beaten. Let’s not go down that road. Starmer is a decent man.
@AOK342 Decent? He lied to get the party nomination or at the very least, changed his mind on the promises he made. What evidence do you have that he'll keep the promises he makes during the general election the second they become inconvenient?
Unforgivable
this is going on all the time in the tory party....no mention of that why ?
Tories cause a 8/10 scandal, nobody bats an eye. Labour do something bad and everyone loses their minds!
Because it's not a fkn competition 🙄 a race to the bottom.
This needed saying
Vote workers party or independents or green.
Wish more people could show the honesty of Clare Short, politics has become one nasty business, where politicians are only interested in what’s in it for themselves, not in doing what’s right for the people who elect them. Maybe thing would be different if politicians were only allowed to serve one term, also if they were made accountable for their wrong doing!
Claire basically saying the Labour Party isn’t the Labour Party in its current incarnation
As someone with an apostrophe in my name, that immediately identifies me as Irish and adding that on my maternal side I cone from traveller stock I wholeheartedly agree with Claire Short. On reflection I cannot remember ever disagreeing with her when she was in Parliament
I agree with everything Clair said. I won't be voting Labour for a change too because I really dislike starmers leadership of the party. I think he is despicable to say the least. I will vote independent and hope 4th July will be our Independence Day.
Labour has now blocked Shaheen in Redbridge. It's deliberate so people don't have the time to mobilise to vote against labour.
Shaheen in Chingford and Woodford Green not Redbridge.
We love Diane she is hard working MP ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💐💐💐💐💐💐💐🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We need political change. They don't like the way Labour is and we definitely want to get rid of the Tories. Lib/Dems, the green party and SNP should run on the single issue of PR, its what the country needs and it will get ppl voting. It would shake up Labour.
Claire is proper labour!!
Vote workers party
And get what?
No.
George Galloway 😮
Another Tory shill attempting no split the vote.
Will George give us all a fedora ?
Voting greens is not sin. Perhaps they never win but let them have more seats not just one as it was for Lucas.
How exactly is Starmer's labour different from the tories these days? At best they're the tories from 10 years ago, which doesn't exactly bode well for the future.
Tories want to force young people into slavery for 1 weekend a month, Labour want to give 16 year olds the vote.
That's just one of a hundred examples of how wrong you are. The Tories would literally take away the vote from us all if they could, they certainly wouldn't expand the voting populace by lowering the age.
Perhaps if you actually paid attention to the policies, and not the personalities, you might see the differences that are right infront of your face.
It's not a case of parties any more mate, most of the MPs are just career politicians with no real conviction for any type of politics. I don't want a return of Sunak and bat chit crazy pals, but the leading Labour MPs are just a slightly different type of loony. Let's face it, most of the people who elbow their way in the HoP aren't people you'd want as friends or neighbours. ☹
The cameron era 😢
where was all this outrage when she was suspended?
Probably not given air time by the media?
Absolutely agree with What's claire short, however we don't talk about how the tory donor spoken about Diane abbott, what did he do to To protect a black woman.?
We miss politicians like Claire Short from British politics.
In my opinion, dont vote Conservative, dont vote Labour vote for the Workers Party. If you want to see real change.
I live in Lambeth and I’ll be voting Green as well.
She is correct in her assessment of the Labour Party at this time. I would hope that the powers that be allow more voices into the party or I am afraid that Labour will not last long in Government if they win the election.
I decided to vote green a while ago.
We have learnt we have to go along with the acceptable dishonesty!
We have to get in. Get these monsters out.then start to turn it around.
Sort of agree that Labour needs a shake, I live in a safe seat so might vote green as well, sad to say this but what Starmer is doing is childish and immature.
Exactly
Looking forward to how conservative light are going deal with running the country. Hold on to your hats.
How did labour sink so low it his a stalinish organization
the problem is is about context... many MSM and journalism extracts the context from the details in order to push clickbait headlines to push a narrative against those they dont want to retain their position.... how many times has the Tory MP's said far more damning statements yet we are supposed to accept a "I'm sorry", something that is only ever offered from them when and only when it looks like they got caught out and repercussions are unavoidable
and we are expected to accept that "sorry" despite the lack of 'meaning' or 'genuine' intent behind it...
but when Labour accept Tory defectors into Labour with open arms, when those very same Tories have been involved in and responsible for so many corrupt cases and incidents but they refuse to accept MP's like Diane Abbott or Jeremy Corbyn because they stood for what is right and because they are Socialist.... I feel Labour has been infested by the right wing and centrist MP's and it no longer represents the Left Wing voters, we no longer have a voice....
because the Right have
Tories
UKIP
ReformUK
and the many other right wing focused parties...
now Labour and Lib Dem (for most part are right and centre right)
Centrists have
in part ReformUK
LibDem
SNP
Labour
Left have
maybe Greens and Independant parties... which are pushed to the point whereby they cannot get a chance of government under First Past the Post politics....
which is why the right and centrists hate the idea of PR
it's never about what is best for the people, or the country, or what's right.... it's about what IS better for those of wealth and power....
Diane Abbott here, Natalie Elphicke there .. peeling off votes for Greens and LibDems
Go green 🥳!!!!
I’ll be voting for Green too 😒, I used to go for the Tories but obviously that isn’t gonna happen
Very cofused😂
Sunak or Starmer 🤔???? 😖😭😭😭😭
Makes no sense
All of the history of Britain in Ireland has and continues to be disgraceful.
The Labour Party have been disgusting over dine Abbott So I'm gonna vote green Disgusted by The Tories as well.
Would you rather get a Tory MP over a Labour MP in your area because you decided to vote Green?
@DevastateOrionVII
A) It's not going to happen.
B) With this Labour management, I fail to see much of a difference
I've heard peeps say Labour are going to win regardless, who you vote for is just to challenge them in parliament. So it's not a vote for the Tories, even under FPTP.
You understand that with the fptp system that's an effective vote for the Tories?
@@dalek604if you can't see the difference between the Labour front bench and the Tories, then there's no hope for you.
Well talking racism Diane Abbott has played that card .it is hard to count.
Marr thinks Labour is stormingly popular. ??? Pathetic.
He's going from the polls, I suspect the end result may not be so overwhelming.
Antisemitism is alive and well in the Labour Party
Blair gave us New Labour, Starmer is giving us New Tories.
if you think that, you've not been paying attention to his actual policies...
"Well I think What's working is that the Government is horrifying the country and people want rid of it.... It isn't the popularity of the Labour Party, it's their way of getting rid of a Government that is reviled"
Pertinent words indeed!
Labour has lost its moral compass.
Relax and prepare yourself for an incoming Labour Government 😊
Another tory government then.
Bravo Claire Short 👏👏👏👏
Vote Andrew Feinstein in Holborn and St Pancras! Get Starmer out.
White on white discrimination is not racism. Diane was right what she wrote
I disagree with her there, I think racism is used pretty much as a synonym of "ethnicity" and Jews were not percieved as "White" until recently either. She said something I disagree with, but it wasn´t an antisemitic statement, just one I thought wasn´t actually correct.
@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw in the law discrimination on the basis of nationality is treated the same way
@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw Actually it often is called racism, it´s a grey concept, rather than a black and white one. If you google "anti-Irish racism" you´ll find plenty of examples of the word being used that way.
@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw Yes I got her point
@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw Then you haven´t trained in English law as antisemitism and anti-Irish racism are explicitly defined as racism legally.
Black voters tend not to speak out about their voting intentions. I think that the Labour Party is in for a rude awakening, if not immediately, definitely longitudinally. I have been influencing black voters and believe me, my influence is VAST.
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One more vote and for Labour just to see the Tories out after 14 years of cuts and they disgraceful behaviour during Covid before Labour turn full Tory like.
The tories need to go, that's the only issue in this election.
Correct
Labor: the new Tories 🤔????
Sad but true
Starmer is very short sighted he thinks that by going to the Center he will create lifelong Labor members out of the Tories. But as soon as the Tories get their house in order those votes he gained in 2024 will leave Labor again.
The ghost of Labour past…
Am not voting for Labour vote for Corbyn
And lose again...
Voting ....green too. Crazy times...
Oh at last some sensible comments. Sums it up a completely
Until we have proportional representation, vote tactically. Voting for a fringe party is great when PR is available, but let’s get the tories out before then, ah?
Tory or Starmers Labour no difference just different personnel
The problem is we won't get PR or AV whil the main beneficiaries of the fptp (Labour & Tories) are perpetually in power.
@@tommckenna4633 different moral compass. Labour created the NHS and the tories have run it into the ground.
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