@@rpsabq2774 you don't understand supply and demand. Increasing units reduces market price. If you want other people to offset the cost, around 90% 0f the units have to have the higher income people in it to pay for the building.
He managed to sell the property for $13.5 million after getting planning permission to the owner of a hotel chain...That was actually pretty cheap but i suppose after all these years and at his age maybe he just had enough of it and in his own words “I just want to sell my property, get the best price for it, and move on.”
@@gregorythompson5334 - It doesn't mean what you think it does. In reality there is no such thing as Fascism, because it never includes the "Nationalist" component. The real Fascists are Internationalists/ Globalists. They are in many cases Zionists. Fascism is not on the right. Fascism and Marxism/ Communism/ Socialism are one in the same. If you look at those governments and socioeconomic systems throughout history, they always nationalize and privatize their industries, killing not only individual rights and liberties, but the private business owner, innovator, and entrepreneur. They use the force of Government to take over industry. This is why such societies cannot create wealth or sustainable economies, let alone increase the standard of living for their citizens.
"we have a housing crisis! what do we do?!" "let's spend multiple years preventing people from making more housing!" "yeah, that sounds like a great idea! let's do it!"
The crisis is not nescicaraly a lack of housing, but rather a lack of housing that local residents can afford. By building "market rate" housing in a low income area, more wealthy tennnants will move in. This has the effect of raising the maximum competitive cost of housing in that area to a level where local residents can no longer afford to live there, and are either forced to leave or go homeless. So in the case of this housing crisis, preventing market rate housing from being built is a valid strategy.
Absolutely insane "We need housing" "This housing is oppressing" These people are so spoiled, pampered and bored they literally must create problems to feel relevant
What they don't understand, is they don't understand the law of tradeoffs. The idea that you have to give up one thing in order to acheive something. It's like the kid who says he'll make a million dollars, but then he just sits on the couch in his mom's basement playing games. Like it will just happen just because he believes it would.
@@name4601 No, those are lefties. I consider myself 'liberal', and value liberty, and good business practices. I hate bs like this. Although, I do think it is ugly, and would ask for a revision of the design.
they want to build expensive, government funded "affordable housing"so poor people can treat their homes like garbage and disensentivize developers from wanting to build because they won't make any money from it. Then they want to block the production of new housing. Make a shit ton of new housing. Let people make huge apartmentd, let sanfransisco grow. Let the proces go down with increased supply. It is so obvious what to do..... they are so stupid it hurts me to listen to their ideological blindness
Mark Shamy That’s retarded. Housing most definitely is governed by the law of supply/demand. Landlords will charge whatever price the market will bear. That’s capitalism. Want communism? Move to Venezuela.
Housing DOES follow supply-demand curves. Mark is confusing the order of things. Lets take NY city for example: People want to live near their job, which means they need to live in the city. There is only so much room left in NY city, so the price on housing goes up. Developers see how much they can make from housing, so they do what they can to build more housing (increasing the density). Notice, the expensive housing comes first, then the density increases. Increasing the amount of housing has never increased the price of housing, all other things constant.
@@timbrink Wife kicked you out for the night, or a million other innocent reasons the government shouldn't even care about because such a law shouldn't exist.
@@LeavingGoose046 I'm agreeing with you, such law shouldn't exist in the first place, there are plenty of examples of why someone needs a rest on their car, and by egregiously makes bullshit regulation then where is the freedom???
"These are the times that each of us must rise to counteract the terror of fascism" - Macbook grandma living a fantasy of battling Hitler in her head, meanwhile she's just blocking a guy from building a house in the city
They do literally see themselves as superheros battling Hitler with every step. Hitler being anyone or anything that doesn't pump funds into the Democrat party and blindly go along with anything they say.
People can want housing while not wanting it on the terms of a parasite, asshole. Also, I hate your username. Romanism completely destroyed all the virtue of Christianity by instilling it with the same imperialist ethics of the pharisee. There is no greater contradiction than Romanism and Christianity. Not that I'm Christian, but there was something admirable about the impulse of the early church to reject both the imperialist ambitions of the Roman empire, and the imperialist envy of the Pharisees.
@@peppermintgal4302 """People can want housing while not wanting it on the terms of a parasite, asshole.""" Well then...What terms will you accept? I don't see how the dude in this video is a "parasite". He's been a contributing member to the community and he's run a business there for years. He's not some millionaire douche who came in from 1,000 miles away to put together a pet project. He even started the project precisely because he wanted to provide some affordable apartments for the customers who frequent his laundromat. How much more morally pure do you need him to be before you'll deem him worthy to build some apartments into his existing building? The reason housing prices in San Francisco are so outrageous is because there just isn't enough to go around. Ever hear of "Supply & Demand"? THOUSANDS of people want to live in San Francisco (or need to live there because that's where their job/company is). But the city isn't allowing new apartments/homes to be built. So the existing ones can charge a fortune in rent because there are plenty of rich people clamoring to live there and very little competition from other housing units. The housing crisis will never be solved if you don't provide places for people to live in.
its funny that you never see White Communities yelling with megaphones about being displaced, and giving interviews using "white culture" as a way to get what they want.
7:10 "these are the times we must rise to counteract the terror of rising fascism" How can she say that with straight face? I hope Bob Tillman continues his lawsuit and wins the $17 million that he deserves.
These are people who display publicly their hate for any narrative which might be different from theirs. They like diversity only when it brings money to their pockets, otherwise you're a fascist.
The old man doesn't deserve anything except to be run out of town. He's trying to build luxury apartments so that he can get rich, and is messing up the whole neighborhood in the process. People like him are why boomers are hated.
Without sunlight on the playground......the children will not grow ! ! ! ! ! ! I want to reach through my computer screen an slap the taste out of those idiots' mouths.
California version is when you're in a hole, blame Trump and dig even harder. I know, I live here. Moderate/conservatives are hated and considered to be traitors. Any yard sign that isn't for a left leaning politician earns you vandalism and your car keyed. By grown-ass adults, half the time. It's that bad. Most Californians are dangerous, drug-addled fascists.
It depends on what side your on. I guess if it easy for you to justify the fact that ppl are being pushed out their homes by developers then the solution is to keep on rolling. I would say remember this when your looking to buy a home in hometown and are completely priced out of the market...... I’m sure you will have a different perspective then..
"We want affordable housing!!!" ok well here is a plan to add more housing, if we add enough housing, we can lower the prices of all the housing helping to make affordable housing "NOOOOOOO WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING"
The anti-gentrification movement is really just a segregationist movement. Calle 24 wants the latinos who live there now to remain there and all the other races not to be allowed to move in.
What they really want is to be slaves, so they don't have to pay for anything with money. No responsibility, just be forced into slavery and suffer. They don't know it, but they act like so.
@@longanddeadly I can't tell if you're trolling or not. But Im not sure how the freedom to trade privately owned things somehow created tent cities and hiv soups. Not the deterioration of the nuclear family, lack of tradition, and no sense of community. Clown boy.
Sage Oblouk that’s the point “legal” - and land use regulation, historical significance, value to community, etc. There does seem to be issues and ambiguity in the legal process however.
I feel it's worse that this comes from racist, deceitful demands of poor minorities, who basically demanded their people should be put into poor houses where, without fixing the insanity going on in the market, it's basically sentencing those people and their children to lifetime in poverty. They would rather do that than allow more white people to move in, because they believe this is a Latino area. And people wonder how ghettos begin.
"It is terrible that the government is preventing someone from using their land in a way that they desire and is legal" ...and would help poor and working people. Excuse me. I mean BROWN AND BLACK poor and working people (that way what has become of the once-noble left might actually care).
anything they don't want = fascism. It's the ultimate in gas lighting and sadly more than half of the nation buys into it, or fears it enough to remain silent.
Actually, all apartment buildings are along tge lines of fascism. But feudalism would be a more accurate term. Fascism graphically described would look like a pyramid. One dude at the top getting all the money, all the dudes at the bottom working their asses off as slaves making the dude at the top richer. Yhis is capitalism. And once the government starts siding with the dude at the top, it's called fascusm. This guy is rich enough to spend 1.4 million dollars just getting a project approved. There is no need for anybody to feel sorry for him. He'll be fine. If he'd have made his building 90% or even 100% rent controlled affirdable housing he'd still be rich snd naking money and everybody would be happy. He's just another rich dude from a fich momma trying to get richer and crying like a pussy when he actually has to work at it.
@@zendean5207 - lol, you have no idea what "fascism" even is, do you? You're just ignorantly calling everything "fascism" that you don't like. You also have no idea how basic economics works. I could cite multiple examples of why rent control destroys housing availability but you're clearly just a marxist with an axe to grind and no facts to support your positions.
"The owner of this laundromat obviously is on pursuit of profit. That's bad." "I wanna build a skyscraper, 100 million is my budget." "Ok, you can begin tommorow."
10:40 "Getting top dollar for a piece of property. Mr. Tillman is exploiting the process for his own personal gain". How dare he try to make money off of his own land!
Hans 7 - Not to mention that the people BLOCKING the building of new homes are standing there screaming "WE NEED MORE HOUSING!" Hello? That’s like screaming "HELP ME I'M STARVING!" "Here, would you like some food?" "NO! I don’t want your leftovers!" And WHY are people not focusing on the high tax rates and high property costs? If a 50’x30’ patch of dirt costs four million and I can only build four apartments on the spot... do the damn math!
He paid his taxes, obeyed the law, hired lawyers, and fought his fight on the up& up. So, the only recourse, as usual, is to demonize him, lie and destroy his character. Racist, latinophobe, every name in the book. The lesson here is: He should have taken that $1.5M in legal fees & greased some palms.
@David Sanchez mate as a actually leftist these people are more Nazis then leftists actually American has no "left" party it's all right Dont blame the left on a right issue
Its also why corporations end up in control of everything. They have the lawyers and bureaucrats to deal with this. No wonder the middle and upper middle class are getting crowded out by insane bureaucrats in government and activists.
activist fight agaisnt gentrification that push hard working people out of the city for more wealthy people; that's why san francisco housing is so expesive and it is making more people homeless. in this project only 11% of the units can be rent by people generating 54% of the median income this is not enough.
@@TheManelich Sadly, this is what is needed to make the tenant building profitable in this city. Personally, I'd be happy if any housing were built at all because a net increase in housing is good for at least stalling somewhat increase in housing prices, if more could be built maybe housing might become more affordable. I don't blame the businessman for making a complex that's still expensive to live in.
@@TheManelich You know how to make it enough? Get the government out of the way and just let people build whatever they want to build and rent it to whomever they want to rent it to.
They're not protesting affordable housing, this is propaganda. They are protesting gentrification. The housing this guy wants to build is only 11% rent controlled.
Thank you! After reading all of the other comments I think that most folk don't see the bigger picture here which is how the City of San Francisco is hustling everybody involved.
We should do what Miami did when they had a similar problem. We have a lot of land down in the Dogpatch that is currently filled by storage buildings and shipping ports. Most shipping is now done in the East Bay, so remove those and build some highrise apartment buildings. Make it attractive for the young tech people and they will go there, leaving our more historical neighborhoods intact. Also, the people in the Mission complaing that the Latinos are getting forced out are hypocrites. The generations before them displaced the Irish and Italian immigrants who used to dominate the population of the Mission. Neighborhoods change as time goes on, and it's best they just accept it. These people want the benefits of Silicon Valley without the responsibilities that come with it. Also, "so the children can play, live, and develop in the sunlight." What sunlight? It's San Francisco. What sunlight is this guy referring to? It's foggy 300 days a year.
Aug I think it makes sense that locals don’t want new houses to be build. This way the rent would stay high. Just the methods they used look as if they were justified is pretty despicable.
They are in the planning process for the Potrero power plant and where house area in the dog patch for housing. Will take these retards another four years to make up their mind and build. Really shouldn’t take these geniuses more than a few months
In Australia we do that, but regulate the SHIT out of it, while building everywhere else still because of the sheer amount of population growth. we call it "Fishermans Bend"
Forreal, I work for a university and our team is one of the best in the institute, know why? Our admins trust us and give us a shit ton of breadth to do our work, the worst divisions tend to be the ones that have massive amounts of documentation requirements and levels of management
Here is an idea. Pass a law in California that says if you run for office you have to live at least one month on the streets while campaigning . If you survive, you are good to go, and if elected you only make 50,000 a year. Then we could have our small Gov't. : )
This is accurate. I live in the mission and it’s rare to see anything be built. The shadow thing is actually a common excuse. Politics in San Francisco are stupid.
What's stupid is you thinking you could continue to afford to live in SF if more was built. Because that wouldn't be what you could afford. If you live in the Mission, you obviously can't afford what's happened in other parts of the city. I've had friends who had great jobs who had to leave because they couldn't pay the rents anymore. Too high.
Ac Cc I’m not saying that if we build more we could afford it. It’s already too late. If spent more money sooner the price of rent wouldn’t inflate as much as it did. But now market rate is so fucking high already that yeah you are right. I legit was just complaining. Lmao
Achy ka that or they are professionals who would rather not take time out of their day to prepare a comment/interview for every single RUclips video made on the housing crisis here in sf.... I’d hope they have better shit to do with their time, like finding a solution...
Sometimes people don't want to do an interview because they know they're going to be misquoted and it will be in favor of a person with a bias . Anyone who's ever been misquoted or had something edited to make it look differently than the actual truth will tell you why they no longer wish to talk with the Press
It’s hard to defend that you’re an just establishment land owner under the guise of progressivism who wants to keep supply low so you can ask for whatever rents you want for your falling apart building. More and new buildings would jeopardize that.
snappedoutloco Usually groups advocating for a specific cause want nothing more than the opportunity to market their mission to others. It makes no sense for them to not want to participate in a real show addressing a problem they want to address as well.
The strange thing is we are told to just suck it up when a project comes in that will make a neighborhood worse. Projects, section 8, and the like bring crime. My city snuck in a residential mental heath / drug treatment facility. They assured us there would be no problems because if any resident breaks the rules they are kicked out. We pointed out that would just mean even more homeless insane junkies in our neighborhood. We were then told "these kind of places have to go somewhere and this is where it is going." Someone at the meeting said "Well at least maybe some of the homeless, mentally ill drug addicts in the area can get off the street and stop panhandling, stealing and harassing people." That is when they admitted that no one in our county would be admitted to this place. It as built exclusively for residents from Chicago. So when it is something bad that will lower property values, increase crime and make the area less safe the answer is "suck it up, it has to go somewhere, neighborhoods change." If something would make the area more desirable we are told "This area can't ever change. The blacks, latinos or whoever took it over in the 60's 70's, whenever and they own it forever now. Granted none of them are property owners and rent was higher before they moved in. But they are here now and rent can never go up because reasons." I doubt very many working class live in Beverly Hills. They all have to commute to come in and do their important jobs and then commute back home to same place with lower rent. With the tech explosion SanFran is just going to become too expensive for the working class. It sucks for people who have rented there for a long time but when you rent you have to pay market prices. It is just how it is.
or maybe the person who knows already bribed who he/she needed so that to be able to buy it from him for pennies and then be able to re-sell it for millions
Not to be Mr. Blackpilled here, but all that money will come from taxpayers. They wasted a bunch of money to stop his building and now they're gonna have to waste even more money in reparations
Supply and demand, if you build more housing, that will increase supply and reduce price. People in charge (ie, rich people) won't easily let their real estate value decrease by some laundromat owner. Their use of useful idiots is really a shining example of how politics should be done.
@@eggory Supply and demand, the very first 3 words in my post. If a shiny new building pops up, what do you think will happen to cruddy old ones in the area, especially with rent control in place?
Well said, I typically point at Texas for reference to the California housing debacle. While Texas has a higher population growth rate it has lax zoning laws which according to Zillow home value index of $191,900 in Texas versus $547,900 in California. A tiny home manufactured home community named Palm Canyon Mobile Club in Palm Springs, CA 600 sq ft will cost you $115,000 with a monthly lot rent of $650. Keep in mind 10 years is the max loan term for mobile homes which always come with higher interest rates due to higher risk attempting repossession. So the monthly mortgage alone would be $1,395 + $650 monthly lot rent = $2,045 total monthly cost. While in Austin, TX at Lakeside Crossing $60K will get you 1,152 sq ft with $300 monthly lot rent. Mortgage monthly costs $728 + $300 = $1,028 total monthly cost. Both of those calculations do not factor in any down payment as I wanted to remove the variable of initial investment costs.
Laws for urban development are quite stricter for a reason, in many cities, you can't build high rise (like Washington) others did not allow build some modern art "masterpiece" that will mess up the skyline or create reflections that will heat up the neighborhood. What it seems here to be more of an issue is that some politicians may be weaponizing laws intended to keep the spirit of city architecture and protect other home owners into something that is used to induce bribes from home developers that are too tired to achieve their goals legally when the legal system is corrupted to the point of intentionally creating obstacles to enforce their ways of doing business...
@@IonorReasSpamGenerator im for taking environmental hazard that the development might produce. The actual problem that should indeed be researched and considered. But that kind studies mainly involve scientists, engineer and medical research among other thing that can usually be done in sufficiently expedite time frame. Social issues however is a freaak job with lots of hypocrisy and not so good intentions. You can add reinforcement to your design or choose different materials so your building dont burn your neighborhood. But if it hurt the activists feeling? Goodluck fixing that.
Well....I would say replace the word "poor" with "stupid". True that many poor people are low IQ, but I have met some intelligent "poor" people. I wouldn't call those people poor though. I'd call them simple & anti-world. They chose the poverty. It's the stupid people that are too stupid to understand the modern day slavery that they demand that are killing our country.
When I lived in San Francisco, I bought a shithole, it was all I could afford. I was baffled by all the permits I needed for everything. I even got fined for cutting a limb off a tree without a permit.
@@fahs Yeah don't fuck with the trees in California. They have to send out an inspector to make sure your tree is "dead" enough to cut down, even on private property. And they wonder why they have forest fires ALL the time.
Wow - this is actually really hard to watch. It was particularly cringe-worthy to hear the supervisor criticize the developer for "exploiting the system for personal gain." I'm not sure why anyone thinks that those in government are driven any less by self interest.
And it's not like this guy is going to have any personal gain. If it ever happens for him (or his children), it will be 40 or 50 years, and he will be long dead. It has already cost him $1.25 Million and nothing is even built. Then he has to go through the permitting process and all the other bureaucracy. It could be a decade before anything is actually built.
"exploiting his property for top gain!" I guess they do not like the taxes that would generate? These ppl LOVE to talk and advocate for "RIGHTS" but ignore the RESPONSIBILITY that goes hand and hand with.
This is what drives me nuts. They'd rather tax people for nothing, and keep people poor, than allow people to get rich and get taxes off of them. By making this guy spend so much money on the case, he'd have to raise rent to extreme numbers to break even. If they had just let it happen, he'd probably have some reasonable rent costs.
Exploiting property for the highest value is maximizing value for society. That's literally how shit works. Sure only rich people would be able to afford it at first. But that means less rich people completing for other units in the city. Every unit of market rate housing creates .6 units of affordable housing just via market forces alone
their tactics are not designed to inform, they are designed to humiliate, so the less they adhere to reality the better. when people are forced to repeat obvious lies, and worse, forced to stay silent, they lose their probity. a society of emasculated liars is easy to control. it's a communist propaganda technique.
I was a Real Estate development attorney for several years and can attest that California is literally the worst and most expensive place to develop anything. I jokingly (not so much) refer to these laws as employment laws for attorneys and environmental consultants. They literally will make up things to study. When I left the field, the big thing was to study the "global warming impacts" of your project. Now, by any reasonable standard, that is impossible to quantify for any single project. By their own admission, California itself has a minimal impact on global warming and that's the entire state. How can you measure the impacts of a 10-unit apartment? But, you have to hire a specialist to study it and discuss the potential impacts. And then, they wonder why housing is so expensive in California.
The Mission is actually one of the sunnier places in the city and gets a lot of sunlight comparatively. The Sunset and Richmond districts are cloudy almost the entire summer. Anything close to the ocean is buried under fog for much of the summer.
Giardinosaur T. That’s they way capitalism works.. profit motivation to perform work. This guy is going to make money by building apartments, we must stop him!
Setting aside the fact that Americans are now demonized for seeking personal gain. Think about that for a moment. We've started to become defensive when someone "accuses" us of seeking personal gain. Someone says that to me, I yell F-off loudly in their face. But most people back-pedal and apologize and try to defend that they aren't just seeking gain, they stutter and become flustered. It's because we are all being gas lighted, badly. The constitution has at its base, Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, and amendments that strengthen this. Now we act like we've been told that we are evil if we fulfill the promise of our constitution. What days we live in.
You mean he's actually attempting to earn profit? OMG!!! String him up; don't they know that's PURE CAPITALISM in its most BLATANT form? We're SOCIALISTS now. Newsom decided last week; didn't you hear the statement last Tuesday morning on CBS?
People in SF: "I need housing for a normal rent" SF Democrats: "You want diversity training and transgenders in your daughters shower? Got it, but we need to raise the taxes though"
and also the people who are behind this charade also dont want anyone to be wealthy or have any financial resources as one of their goals is financial domination over everyone
This is what happens when they bring Mexico here. You end up with feral and low-IQ people pissing over territory like animals. Another decade of that decay and that facade of "protest" will just give way to unbridled racial hate, murders, and civil wars. There is no hope of reversing an Orwellian cesspool of that magnitude.
Normally the ones who use “inclusive” are the most non-inclusive and live in the least diverse neighborhoods with the least inclusive and diverse friends.
Cmon guys, it's the oldest trick in the book. Artificially create a problem (high rents, but can be other things), blame some ethnic or racial group (in this case "gentrifiers" aka Whites, but of course, can be any racial/ethnic group), publicly antagonize said group (redlining, segregation, "those Jewish bankers!", etc), don't actually fix the problem (the people will forget about it anyway), reap the benefits of electoral support for antagonizing the racial group "that's been causing all of our problems". Rinse and repeat. This is something the 'dixiecrats' did all of the time. They would keep the population poor, blame black people, and get reelected for antagonizing black people (almost all Dixiecrats in the 1890s - 1950s were members of the KKK).
Ill never forget sitting in a city council meeting and hearing a young woman say "I live with 5 roommates and work at a cafe. I am an ARTIST!! I cant afford to live in SF bc cost of rent AND I AM A TAX PAYING CITIZEN!!" I DEMAND...." Uh she is a tax-paying citizen? Bc she does not own land, she pays zero property taxes. Bc she works as an employee, she pays no taxes that biz owners have to pay the city. So, other than sales tax (roughly 10% of SOME of the purchases she makes. Things like food and medicine), she pays no taxes directly to SF. Sf and the ppl that CHOOSE to live there need to realize the rights come with responsibilities. Gov interference breeds problems like these. There is NO reason she cant be an artist in Sacramento or Fresno where the cost of living is WAY lower!!!
SF is the most racially segregated city I've ever seen! I've literally been across the entire US from NY to CA and I've never seen a place more obsessed with race and territory in my life. The racial demographics in SF are mindboggling. When I pointed this out to "SF Natives" they couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that other cities simply exist. A good friend of mine vehemently denied this fact until she moved to Vermont for College. The next time I saw her she was immediately apologetic for not believing me and was stunned that she just never noticed how racist and tribal SF was until she left. It blew her mind that people in Vermont simply exist and aren't up in arms about racial segregation on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. In most cities, there's no set territory for "your people". You simply live your life in the neighborhood you can afford amongst a mix of people. But in SF...you can get harassed simply for having the audacity to be seen in certain neighborhoods. A friend of mine lives in the South Bay and was visiting SF to perform stand-up comedy. He was walking through The Mission and got harassed by a group of Latino dudes who kept shouting at him for being a "gentrifier" and for being "White"...meanwhile, my friend is full blooded Latino and was the first person in his family to be born outside of Mexico. These idiots in SF didn't think he was "Brown" enough to even walk down the sidewalk.
So she moved to one of the whitest places in the country, then came back and saw how tribal people are when the diversity kicks in? Wowee, it's almost like multiculturalism doesn't work, it just creates clashing spheres of monoculturalism.
@Tyler Smith She went to College there and lived on the Campus which is not 96% White. Haha. She didn't live in the entirety of Vermont. She lived in a College Town with a large mix of people that just happened to not define each individual neighborhood by race like they do in SF.
@@parisgansmuelly1052 The city I live in is 60% latino, but the racial divides don't exist here. We don't racially segregate by neighborhood. I lived in California and worked in SF, and saw exactly the kind of thing he's talking about.
10:38 Shes saying this as if that makes him a bad guy... Its obvious that new living space would be more useful than the laundromat and yet these idiots stop it bcs a guy would make a profit which is literally the entire reason for ppl to do anything
It wouldn’t make a profit overall. More people benefit from publicly fighting him (political points, keeping rent high, not-in-my-back-yard feeling) than him and any future tenants. He benefits but more people don’t (and in the end he did manage to profit as well)
So what happens when all of the people who have rent stabilized apartments die off or move ? By law the owners have the right to raise the rents so there goes the neighborhood.
@@steveb9667 Well if I'm an owner and still able to make decent money without being a total douche and raising the rent then what is the point of screwing low income families over?
I have come to the conclusion that everyone that lives in San Francisco either has left or deserves it. They support this stuff and then act surprised when it doesn't work out for them. Don't feel bad for them just point and laugh.
Thats Not commie at all. The commie approach would be expropriation, demolition and than to build commieblocks. Commies are a lot but they are Not nimbys blocking massive housing....
Would you want an 8 floor 75 unit apartment complex built on your next door neighbore's lot? I doubt it. I am not even a Democrat I agree with the planning board.
Novusod - So you would prefer an ever increasing homeless population as more and more people are forced on the street? Hepatitis and other diseases that thrive due to poor housing? Or a vanishing middle class and increased income inequality as the working class flee the city? Is your motivation simply a "not in my back yard" mentality or a hope to benefit from the escalating real estate prices due to a lack of supply? It's a congested city, if crowds are not your thing then move out.
@@Novusod cities grow, areas change, thats like saying i should be able to have a ranch house built in downtown. People who are in single units, small houses etc are the ones keeping people from being able to have homes. Those not wanting to build more are the greedy ones who are driving up cost, that what this is all about.
Those shadow children will be the n'er do wells and needle users of the mission. Statistically speaking (Cochran Collaborative Studies) mission district supervisors will throw those children under the muni buses after using them to line their democratic-republican-independent pockets...
@@kgal1298, that sounds like an over-generalization and oversimplification of the right and the issues. Are you angry about something? Sincerely, would you like to talk about it?
No it’s not. It’s abour keeping the historic core of the city in tact and not allowing developers to come in and destroy the city’s history and all its old buildings the way it’s happened in every single other American city.
@@lorissupportguides Read a history book. American cities looked no different to European cities with trams, trains and narrow historic streets all the way up until WWII. Then the car lobby and developers came in, dismantled America's rail network, tore down the historic centers of most American cities to build huge highways running through downtown and convinced wealthy white Americans through a propaganda campaign that driving to work in and out of the city and living in the suburb and buying a house was the american dream. In the process, most American cities were utterly destroyed as skysrapers were built downtown, highways were built to the suburbs and the American phenomenon of car dependence was born. All thanks to developers and a short-term trend of car ownership. You want to destroy a city, then you let developers come in and tear down all of the historic old buildings. But if you care about the history of San Francisco, then you fight to have as much of the city as possible be declared as historic and off touch for developers. Europe saved its cities in the 1950s from such a fate, and it was the smartest thing they ever did.
@DefinitelyNotDan Building high-rises would be lucrative for developers. I'm talking about single home owners with 30 year mortgages. Their equity it their retirement plan but they also don't want property taxes to increase or the city to change. There are also other factors such as the we were here first mentality, being wary of outsiders and fearing change.
@@nikolasirovica3250 But European cities are much more densely populated and walkable. The U.S actually stopped investing in cities after ww2 and built low income sky scrapers isolated from jobs, and wealth. Investing in mixed income housing with access to jobs, transportation and increasing walkability scores would make us more like Europe.
I think the worst part of this is that his building would've added affordable units to the market. Four years that some families could've found an affordable place to live in that neighborhood and instead Calle 24 blocked them.
I thought we had it bad here in parts of Europe, a rather sclerotic society that always finds more and often less reasonable objections against new projects. But this stuff is on another level, bordering on malicious behaviour. People with a lot of time, negative energy/ideologies of perpetual oppression and little grasp on reason and facts are moved in positions of power over people who want to develop their community. Insanity!
The governments of California are populated with far leftists lavishly funded by a few rich property and business owners. Their main objective is to keep the housing scarce, the rents high, and to prevent any new business from upsetting the applecart.
The funny thing is that people who are in power, politicians, the board, owners, people who live there, renters and different activists are NOT the same people and don’t have the same wants. They just match in their results, it’s not one concerted effort but it all together ends up strongly hampering building
@@shrekgamer4199 I understand NIMBY when they don't want a nuclear plant, waste disposal center, a prison, or a Walmart in their part of town, but a small upscale apartment complex? You get a shadow for four hours in the morning over a school playground which I get is not optimal. But in exchange, you get a taxes which can be used to clean up the graffiti all over that school, clean up the needles on the sidewalks around the school, the building will likely have security which will drive away some of the crime around the school. A shadow over a school and some privileged blonds walking with the air entitlement through your neighborhood is a small price to pay. Diversity goes both ways.
"fire and a couple of earthquakes" All that would do is create feral politicians looking to devour any voter left, meaning the poor and unfortunate. It would most certainly lead to worse conditions and promote graft and slum lords.
Tillman may still have grounds to pursue civil suit against the City of San Francisco for damages. The shadow study can be used as evidence that the city knowingly and negligently delayed approval for his project. Because the city finally approved his project, does not absolve the city of wrongdoing.
He should receive the projected profit for at least three of those four years in damages because more than one year of waiting for approval to build is way too much.
@Sheldon Cooper I find trump to be a complex guy, and I am mixed in my opinion on him, but instead of settling for that kind of bullshit, and going all in on beating them into submission? Id buy him a beer! And try to convince him that a wall is outright counterproductive
Another example of the Ruling class making sure the servant class can't get ahead. No, you can't build housing for people. You have to let us provide the housing for you poor, helpless people. Give people more and more taxpayer-funded necessities, and they will stay on the plantation forever.
Yeah...and apparently the "unwritten rules" include the SF govt making housing promises that private landowners are forced to pay for (and pay more and more). Sad, but even if I won the lottery, there is no way I'd invest in SF property.
It's a lack of understanding of the benefits of capitalism. It's not supposed to be win/lose. Renting a place to live to someone is win/win (you get money and they get a place to live that they're not locked into like a house). What's wrong with that?
Especially god damn stupid because if anything I would WANT my playground in the shade. Don't have to worry about sunscreen or any of that bullshit then.
One of the biggest issues with current "affordable" housing is that it actually encourages poverty. The reason is in many states in order to be even considered as a tenant you have to make poverty wages and if you make more than your application is trashed. This encourages a lower level of living to keep housing and other programs that are given to them.
That's not a function of the housing though, that's a function of the administration: if the rent were adjusted appropriately as a function of the economic potential AND the salary, people would be encouraged to seek upward mobility.
@@saint_gales Nobody WANTS to be poor, but the way many “affordable housing” projects are administered, the tenants get kicked out if they hit a certain threshold, so after getting a higher paying (and economically more productive) job, they are now forced to seek market rate housing which eats up far more than the small increase they got as a salary increase, making them poorer than if they had just kept the first lower paying job.
Which is exactly the problem with your mindset: you're only looking at examples within the US. Look at how housing is done in countries with decent housing and zoning laws, like you know, Japan, Singapore, and Austria.
well if u look at the world map america is surrounded by lots of countries including nigeria and china its just that theres a big ocean between them and america so i guess its important?
I am from The People's Republic of California, move about 15yrs ago; a good friend moved to Texas around the same time. He wanted to build a wall around his property. In the PRC the process is extensive; reports. endorsements (bribes), hearing et cetera. He went to the country offices and asked how to start the process. The lady behind the counter said: *_"I'd buy some materials and hires some folks."_*
Sounds like more gentrification. White and upperclassmen people pushing others out of their homes because they like the culture. They then turn the area into a bland fucking place and move on to the next cultural area. It happens constantly.
@@Kaodusanya I bet many wouldn't be pleased to see a whole lot of hispanics and latinos move into their historically white neighbourhood but if they ever dared say anything, even imply that they were a little bit bothered by it, they would be hanged drawn and quartered by people like You. Yet its okay to opening say you don't want whities moving into your neighbourhood. What. a. joke. Imagine if white people got up and said they don't appreciate low income latinos moving into their neighbourhoods and turning the place into a dirty shithole. Gentrification is just a pc term for racism against people of white skin. You are a hypocrite and a joke. Good Day.
dude la raza meant someone from mexico if you are mexican as in hey that dude is part of the raza same as you would say that there is a/my paisano its not a racist group however this group is named la raza so they are shooting themselves in the foot the fucking idiots
Now shit is collapsing as many companies have left and silicon valley is shifting their employees to work from home. No need to be in the mess anymore. Now, hopefully Elon Musk will move Tesla out of state.
Anyone who chooses to live in California chooses this. I feel bad for him but there has been no hint of any other direction than the one California has taken for the last 40 years. And yes this is San Francisco but really it's California. He should have just sold the property and moved elsewhere.
You do if you you're a kid. California historically has a high inflow of people not born within the state. The cost of living has effected an exodus to Colorado and we're starting to hear rumblings in Texas. We're "stuck" because of elder parents but if there was need we'd move them with us.
7:08 "These are the times that each of us must rise to counter-act the terror of rising fascism." As she stares into an Apple laptop manufactured by slave labor in a fascist country. I don't know what I'm more flabbergasted by, the sheer amount of balls on people like this or the painful lack of self-awareness.
They understand. That is why they refuse. They all probably either directly or indirectly benefit from the artificially inflated property prices either because they own property themselves or else indirectly receive money from those who do.
@@GeorgeMonet I am genuinely curious if there isn't some reason behind it like this. If they own a home or apartment building, then artificially increasing the price by keeping new housing from being built so that they're able to line their own pockets is criminal and in no way supports the communities they claim to be protecting.
@@benjaminkesler5245 weird, since it's the commies that have decent, walkable, midrise housing. Yes, it took years to get a unit, but at least those units exist. And ironically, Japan and Singapore, countries that are very much capitalist, replicated the commieblock model for middle class public housing and transit-oriented development. It worked.
I live in SF. I've been called racist by numerous people when I said innocent things about development the entitled behavior of those who try to turn everything into a racial issue. It didn't work. I have no guilt. In fact, it did the opposite. I have LESS compassion for their issues. STOP HAVING CHILDREN IF YOU ARE POOR.
@jfsfrnd nope. poor people should wait till they aren't poor to have children. instant gratification or cultural tradition isn't a valid excuse to perpetuate poverty and expect everybody else to pay for it. moving out of the bay area is a sad but realistic solution. they can move to AZ and build a cheap earth ship if they want kids while poor.
Sick thing is, most insane leftists believe in shit like that, if they don't, they pretend to. Like supposedly 'ripping the kids out of the arms of the mothers" at the border, yet they are fine with ripping fetuses out of the womb of the mother.
Orwell saw this coming, but even he would vomit at how far it's going. One of these days they'll end up killing each other, but they won't be arrested because they'll claim "we could not have murdered a "fascist" because they're already dead inside" as they're allowed to walk. Pretty soon, EVERYONE is a "fascist"!
I just moved here to California and that is the norm. It's the attitude of rules for thee and not for me, and all to fight against fascism. Supposedly, that is. They are not that sophisticated but propose the most unbased progressive policies and standardizations hurting developers. They will break their own laws. They don't know they hurt the middle class. It's regressive tendencies behind a facade of good intentions.
We just spent 4 years of ‘don’t talk to the opposition, punch them, they are all Nazis! Trust me or I will call you a Nazi and make sure you never work again!’.
San Francisco is one of the most corrupt cities in America. When London Breed became mayor, it became politically expedient for this issue to go away because frankly the voters of the mission are not as important as the majority of voters who are demanding new housing and even though the housing wouldn't go to those voters, the "optics" of the situation and the more press it got, was bad for her voter support. Imagine this - the whackjob activists actually backed off, completely at the mayors request. That goes to show you how strong the grift and patronage is in the city when activists abandon their own causes because it's not politically expedient for the mayor.
It's not a required class in my area of Cali, I graduated 2012. I'm sure in the next couple years here Econ will be labeled a racist / sexist / fascist class and be pulled from class listings all over California.
The "Unwritten rule" he didn't follow was he didn't bribe them with enough free shit, extra additional low-income units, and personal donations. The SF rule of building is "Follow the law and bribe us with extra shit on top of it. If the law says you have to give 11% of your units up to affordable housing we REALLY mean you need to bribe us with 25%."
So let me get this straight: in a neighborhood where there isn’t sufficient housing project done because of high bureaucracy, a group of people who are going to benefit by the extra supply which drives prices down, actually are actively trying to keep price up? Is that how it is?
These activists display psychological issues through their behavior. They don't construct any logical argument because they have none so they appeal to feelings.
As a small business owner, I deal with all the local government nonsense constantly. It’s truly criminal how unelected bureaucrats can charge endless fees and stall development with laws that other unelected bureaucrats write. I feel for this guy and hope he can get his money back from that horrible city.
He's trying to build a high rent property. He spent all that money because he's making a bet that, if he gets to build, will pay off HUGELY for him. Anyone else, after a few thousand or even tens of thousands were lost, would have thought, "Oh, well, not meant to be" and either been happy to have a thriving business or sell the property to another speculator trying to make the same bet he did. Developers don't sit on property if they don't see a profit at the end. And in SF, that profit can be immense nowadays.
Visited San Francisco in the 80’s when I was a child. Beautiful, modern, clean, fun. Visited San Francisco a few years ago. Smelled like feces and looked like it too. Pathetic. Why anyone wants to live there now is beyond me.
CA: We need more housing.
Also CA: We have to stop this man from building more housing.
Its gonna cast a shadow! 😂
@@rpsabq2774 If you purposely limit the creation of supply, you end up with higher prices idiot
@@theminuteman6211 It's really simple supply and demand
@@rpsabq2774 you don't understand supply and demand. Increasing units reduces market price. If you want other people to offset the cost, around 90% 0f the units have to have the higher income people in it to pay for the building.
Because he’s not going to make it an affordable housing building. He’s trying to sell to the rich to move into the mission.
The man owned a laundromat for 25 years and when he wants to build on land he owns he is called a fascist? Wow. Just wow.
Maybe they really want 150-250 sq ft apartments only, and for him to keep the laundromat.
He managed to sell the property for $13.5 million after getting planning permission to the owner of a hotel chain...That was actually pretty cheap but i suppose after all these years and at his age maybe he just had enough of it and in his own words “I just want to sell my property, get the best price for it, and move on.”
@@rpsabq2774 that doesn't make sense. I don't think you know what the word fascist means
@@gregorythompson5334 - It doesn't mean what you think it does. In reality there is no such thing as Fascism, because it never includes the "Nationalist" component. The real Fascists are Internationalists/ Globalists. They are in many cases Zionists. Fascism is not on the right. Fascism and Marxism/ Communism/ Socialism are one in the same.
If you look at those governments and socioeconomic systems throughout history, they always nationalize and privatize their industries, killing not only individual rights and liberties, but the private business owner, innovator, and entrepreneur. They use the force of Government to take over industry. This is why such societies cannot create wealth or sustainable economies, let alone increase the standard of living for their citizens.
@@wildfire160 Yeah he just need to put it on Index fund and live somewhere serene
"we have a housing crisis! what do we do?!"
"let's spend multiple years preventing people from making more housing!"
"yeah, that sounds like a great idea! let's do it!"
B L O B B O
literally all of california
The crisis is not nescicaraly a lack of housing, but rather a lack of housing that local residents can afford. By building "market rate" housing in a low income area, more wealthy tennnants will move in. This has the effect of raising the maximum competitive cost of housing in that area to a level where local residents can no longer afford to live there, and are either forced to leave or go homeless. So in the case of this housing crisis, preventing market rate housing from being built is a valid strategy.
@@Anna-1917 cool thx i didn't know dat
Dobedobedo
Absolutely insane
"We need housing"
"This housing is oppressing"
These people are so spoiled, pampered and bored they literally must create problems to feel relevant
Those are liberals for you.
What they don't understand, is they don't understand the law of tradeoffs. The idea that you have to give up one thing in order to acheive something. It's like the kid who says he'll make a million dollars, but then he just sits on the couch in his mom's basement playing games. Like it will just happen just because he believes it would.
@@name4601 No, those are lefties. I consider myself 'liberal', and value liberty, and good business practices. I hate bs like this. Although, I do think it is ugly, and would ask for a revision of the design.
@@TheRisky9 I am personally attack
Imagine having *the balls* to act like nothing or no one came before you existed there, and to call anything after "gentrification" lol FOH.
Whenever someone says "it's for the children" I know their idea is a bad one.
Make more schools, it's for the children.
@@mahfik6958 Make schools better... It's for the country.
@@mahfik6958 - Clearly the schools are failing the children & should be defunded instead of producing more entitled, useless Marxists.
By the time children are involved in any of it, it's a sure sign that they've lost the argument.
@@MeanOldLady yeah I agree for the west (USA abd Europe) the education should reform, I mean it sounded so bad.
Protect our children.... From shadows. But not tree shadows. And only morning shadows.
Nevermind skin cancer
@Mellio Kuang I have no doubt he believes in his own conviction
CUT THE TREES DOWN!!
Just a reminder that night is shadow
Greatest reply.
Housing is too expensive. We need to cut the supply of housing.
--Econ 101, right?
Out of Blue Pills lol
they want to build expensive, government funded "affordable housing"so poor people can treat their homes like garbage and disensentivize developers from wanting to build because they won't make any money from it. Then they want to block the production of new housing. Make a shit ton of new housing. Let people make huge apartmentd, let sanfransisco grow. Let the proces go down with increased supply. It is so obvious what to do..... they are so stupid it hurts me to listen to their ideological blindness
Mark Shamy That’s retarded. Housing most definitely is governed by the law of supply/demand. Landlords will charge whatever price the market will bear. That’s capitalism. Want communism? Move to Venezuela.
Housing DOES follow supply-demand curves.
Mark is confusing the order of things.
Lets take NY city for example: People want to live near their job, which means they need to live in the city. There is only so much room left in NY city, so the price on housing goes up. Developers see how much they can make from housing, so they do what they can to build more housing (increasing the density). Notice, the expensive housing comes first, then the density increases.
Increasing the amount of housing has never increased the price of housing, all other things constant.
The757packerfan so people making more money can’t live near where THEY work?!
Cities: “We have a homeless problem :(“
Also Cities: *makes it illegal to sleep in a car, even if you aren’t homeless*
Why would you sleep in a car if you aren't homeless?
@@timbrink Wife kicked you out for the night, or a million other innocent reasons the government shouldn't even care about because such a law shouldn't exist.
@@LeavingGoose046 jesus crys... home of the brave and land of the free eh?? such bullshit
@@LeavingGoose046 I'm agreeing with you, such law shouldn't exist in the first place, there are plenty of examples of why someone needs a rest on their car, and by egregiously makes bullshit regulation then where is the freedom???
@@Frostmournt Fair enough, you had it worded in a weird way. I apologize and will retract my previous statement.
"These are the times that each of us must rise to counteract the terror of fascism"
- Macbook grandma living a fantasy of battling Hitler in her head, meanwhile she's just blocking a guy from building a house in the city
They do literally see themselves as superheros battling Hitler with every step. Hitler being anyone or anything that doesn't pump funds into the Democrat party and blindly go along with anything they say.
WHAT DO WE WANT? MORE HOUSING!!! WHERE DO WE WANT IT? NOT HERE!!!
Hahahahaha! I couldn't have mocked it better myself!
People can want housing while not wanting it on the terms of a parasite, asshole.
Also, I hate your username. Romanism completely destroyed all the virtue of Christianity by instilling it with the same imperialist ethics of the pharisee. There is no greater contradiction than Romanism and Christianity. Not that I'm Christian, but there was something admirable about the impulse of the early church to reject both the imperialist ambitions of the Roman empire, and the imperialist envy of the Pharisees.
So where it should be built?
THERE!
where?
THERE!
where?
THERE!
@@peppermintgal4302
"""People can want housing while not wanting it on the terms of a parasite, asshole."""
Well then...What terms will you accept? I don't see how the dude in this video is a "parasite". He's been a contributing member to the community and he's run a business there for years. He's not some millionaire douche who came in from 1,000 miles away to put together a pet project. He even started the project precisely because he wanted to provide some affordable apartments for the customers who frequent his laundromat. How much more morally pure do you need him to be before you'll deem him worthy to build some apartments into his existing building?
The reason housing prices in San Francisco are so outrageous is because there just isn't enough to go around. Ever hear of "Supply & Demand"? THOUSANDS of people want to live in San Francisco (or need to live there because that's where their job/company is). But the city isn't allowing new apartments/homes to be built. So the existing ones can charge a fortune in rent because there are plenty of rich people clamoring to live there and very little competition from other housing units.
The housing crisis will never be solved if you don't provide places for people to live in.
its funny that you never see White Communities yelling with megaphones about being displaced, and giving interviews using "white culture" as a way to get what they want.
7:10 "these are the times we must rise to counteract the terror of rising fascism" How can she say that with straight face? I hope Bob Tillman continues his lawsuit and wins the $17 million that he deserves.
He should actually file a suit for hate crimes as well. I'd love to see an SJW in trouble for using hurtful words.
These are people who display publicly their hate for any narrative which might be different from theirs. They like diversity only when it brings money to their pockets, otherwise you're a fascist.
Mark Kramm that moment when someone falls deep into the black whole of the npc meme
The old man doesn't deserve anything except to be run out of town. He's trying to build luxury apartments so that he can get rich, and is messing up the whole neighborhood in the process. People like him are why boomers are hated.
@@WouterCloetens it happens all the time. SJWs cannibalize each other like crazy. Just not fast enough.
"He's exploiting the process for his own gain."
It's HIS property.
Marxists want to abolish private property 💀
Agreed, but we're fighting open Marxists here.
How dare he benefit himself
You will own nothing and you WILL be happy
If all else fails, make it about "the children".
Like he said, "it's a no brainer." Which qualifies every progressive.
The children that they forgot to abort.
David Hunn yeah the kids will DIE in the shadows!!!!
Exactly. Same tired playbook.
Without sunlight on the playground......the children will not grow ! ! ! ! ! !
I want to reach through my computer screen an slap the taste out of those idiots' mouths.
"The first rule of holes is when your in a hole stop digging" Timeless quote.
California version is when you're in a hole, blame Trump and dig even harder. I know, I live here. Moderate/conservatives are hated and considered to be traitors. Any yard sign that isn't for a left leaning politician earns you vandalism and your car keyed. By grown-ass adults, half the time. It's that bad. Most Californians are dangerous, drug-addled fascists.
14:28
Tell that to Jeff Bezos. Amazon was losing money for decades to price everyone out of business. Now he owns everything.
The 2nd one is know your role and shut your hole
It depends on what side your on. I guess if it easy for you to justify the fact that ppl are being pushed out their homes by developers then the solution is to keep on rolling. I would say remember this when your looking to buy a home in hometown and are completely priced out of the market...... I’m sure you will have a different perspective then..
"We want affordable housing!!!"
ok well here is a plan to add more housing, if we add enough housing, we can lower the prices of all the housing helping to make affordable housing
"NOOOOOOO WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING"
The anti-gentrification movement is really just a segregationist movement. Calle 24 wants the latinos who live there now to remain there and all the other races not to be allowed to move in.
What they really want is to be slaves, so they don't have to pay for anything with money. No responsibility, just be forced into slavery and suffer. They don't know it, but they act like so.
@@rwatertree They are useful idiots covertly funded by existing landowners that want to keep their rents artificially high.
That want you to pay for their housing is what they're saying.
More like "NOOOO SPEAK ENGLISH WE JUST WANT FREE HOUSING"
"San Francisco continues its transformation into a cloistered country club." You mean toilet and needle repository.
It's really both at the same time.
Exactly 💯
Tent cities with hiv soups. And its capitalism's fault.
@@longanddeadly totally not because of the socialistic policy to make druggies more equal than regular people
@@longanddeadly I can't tell if you're trolling or not. But Im not sure how the freedom to trade privately owned things somehow created tent cities and hiv soups. Not the deterioration of the nuclear family, lack of tradition, and no sense of community. Clown boy.
It is terrible that the government is preventing someone from using their land in a way that they desire and is legal
Sage Oblouk that’s the point “legal” - and land use regulation, historical significance, value to community, etc. There does seem to be issues and ambiguity in the legal process however.
I feel it's worse that this comes from racist, deceitful demands of poor minorities, who basically demanded their people should be put into poor houses where, without fixing the insanity going on in the market, it's basically sentencing those people and their children to lifetime in poverty. They would rather do that than allow more white people to move in, because they believe this is a Latino area. And people wonder how ghettos begin.
it's worse because people in government positions are openly displaying bias and employing logical fallacies to make decisions.
@Silver Fox I am referring to the state government in this post.
"It is terrible that the government is preventing someone from using their land in a way that they desire and is legal"
...and would help poor and working people. Excuse me. I mean BROWN AND BLACK poor and working people (that way what has become of the once-noble left might actually care).
"I want to develop affordable housing"
"We must rise to counteract the rising of facism"
Wot?
anything they don't want = fascism. It's the ultimate in gas lighting and sadly more than half of the nation buys into it, or fears it enough to remain silent.
11% affordable housing is not really affordable housing
@@flapaflog 11% is better than 0 %
Translated from the Leftspeak: "Pay me."
Claiming other people are racist is how they can have an argument when they actually have no real argument
Building apartments is called “fascism” in San Francisco?
At this point the left definioìtion of facism is a good thing
The left doesn't know what that word even means.
Actually, all apartment buildings are along tge lines of fascism. But feudalism would be a more accurate term. Fascism graphically described would look like a pyramid. One dude at the top getting all the money, all the dudes at the bottom working their asses off as slaves making the dude at the top richer. Yhis is capitalism. And once the government starts siding with the dude at the top, it's called fascusm. This guy is rich enough to spend 1.4 million dollars just getting a project approved. There is no need for anybody to feel sorry for him. He'll be fine. If he'd have made his building 90% or even 100% rent controlled affirdable housing he'd still be rich snd naking money and everybody would be happy. He's just another rich dude from a fich momma trying to get richer and crying like a pussy when he actually has to work at it.
@@zendean5207 - lol, you have no idea what "fascism" even is, do you? You're just ignorantly calling everything "fascism" that you don't like. You also have no idea how basic economics works. I could cite multiple examples of why rent control destroys housing availability but you're clearly just a marxist with an axe to grind and no facts to support your positions.
They want free housing
"The owner of this laundromat obviously is on pursuit of profit. That's bad."
"I wanna build a skyscraper, 100 million is my budget." "Ok, you can begin tommorow."
They should look at how you solved a housing crisis in Stratholme my king.
that's epic
Today i learned that building apartments on your property is now facism. I don’t remember learning that in AP world
when you dont have a brain and disconnect from reality, anything is possible!
same i was perplexed i thought you could build anything in your property as long as it followed city rules and businesses gave the OK well fuck
I’ve heard California is a communist country.
These people are anti-capitalism.
@@heartofjustice6041 that's not how it works.
10:40 "Getting top dollar for a piece of property. Mr. Tillman is exploiting the process for his own personal gain". How dare he try to make money off of his own land!
seriously, like wtf else is he suppose to do with it?
They just don't recognize that self-interest is an acceptable motivation for doing anything
‘How dare he OWN land...’
Hans 7 - Not to mention that the people BLOCKING the building of new homes are standing there screaming "WE NEED MORE HOUSING!" Hello? That’s like screaming "HELP ME I'M STARVING!" "Here, would you like some food?" "NO! I don’t want your leftovers!" And WHY are people not focusing on the high tax rates and high property costs? If a 50’x30’ patch of dirt costs four million and I can only build four apartments on the spot... do the damn math!
He paid his taxes, obeyed the law, hired lawyers, and fought his fight on the up& up. So, the only recourse, as usual, is to demonize him, lie and destroy his character. Racist, latinophobe, every name in the book. The lesson here is: He should have taken that $1.5M in legal fees & greased some palms.
"We love and include everyone......except you and you and you.....I don't want you people in my neighborhood" -San Francisco
@David Sanchez mate as a actually leftist these people are more Nazis then leftists actually American has no "left" party it's all right
Dont blame the left on a right issue
He finally got it approved (and dropped the lawsuit against the city) and sold the property to a larger developer for approx. 13.5 million.
Good. The place and culture is evil. Get as much as you can and move away from there.
I love how a fat legal lawsuit against the city because they broke their own rules is what it took to approve it. Damn vultures in that office. 😭
Damn should get more than that honestly
Its also why corporations end up in control of everything. They have the lawyers and bureaucrats to deal with this. No wonder the middle and upper middle class are getting crowded out by insane bureaucrats in government and activists.
Damn I was hoping he'd fuck em up good
“Activist protest affordable housing”
_irony intensifies_
activist fight agaisnt gentrification that push hard working people out of the city for more wealthy people; that's why san francisco housing is so expesive and it is making more people homeless. in this project only 11% of the units can be rent by people generating 54% of the median income this is not enough.
@@TheManelich Sadly, this is what is needed to make the tenant building profitable in this city. Personally, I'd be happy if any housing were built at all because a net increase in housing is good for at least stalling somewhat increase in housing prices, if more could be built maybe housing might become more affordable. I don't blame the businessman for making a complex that's still expensive to live in.
@@TheManelich You know how to make it enough? Get the government out of the way and just let people build whatever they want to build and rent it to whomever they want to rent it to.
They're not protesting affordable housing, this is propaganda. They are protesting gentrification. The housing this guy wants to build is only 11% rent controlled.
@@panblacksolutions So?
Sooooo as soon as he sues them they approve the project?? Just goes to show it was all a sham from the beginning.
Thank you! After reading all of the other comments I think that most folk don't see the bigger picture here which is how the City of San Francisco is hustling everybody involved.
They benefit from a long cycle as well, more pay, and more incentive for under the table cash
@@wesleyp3024 Apparently googling, he apparently dropped his lawsuit less than 6 months after this was produced.
@@wesleyp3024 And even he sold up to a hotel brand.
Of course. Why else would they do it? No motivation otherwise.
We should do what Miami did when they had a similar problem. We have a lot of land down in the Dogpatch that is currently filled by storage buildings and shipping ports. Most shipping is now done in the East Bay, so remove those and build some highrise apartment buildings. Make it attractive for the young tech people and they will go there, leaving our more historical neighborhoods intact.
Also, the people in the Mission complaing that the Latinos are getting forced out are hypocrites. The generations before them displaced the Irish and Italian immigrants who used to dominate the population of the Mission. Neighborhoods change as time goes on, and it's best they just accept it. These people want the benefits of Silicon Valley without the responsibilities that come with it.
Also, "so the children can play, live, and develop in the sunlight." What sunlight? It's San Francisco. What sunlight is this guy referring to? It's foggy 300 days a year.
Aug I think it makes sense that locals don’t want new houses to be build. This way the rent would stay high. Just the methods they used look as if they were justified is pretty despicable.
They are in the planning process for the Potrero power plant and where house area in the dog patch for housing. Will take these retards another four years to make up their mind and build. Really shouldn’t take these geniuses more than a few months
In Australia we do that, but regulate the SHIT out of it, while building everywhere else still because of the sheer amount of population growth. we call it "Fishermans Bend"
When people say they like small government, they are thinking of all these useless bureaucrats.
We are going to form a committee to talk about this comment
Forreal, I work for a university and our team is one of the best in the institute, know why? Our admins trust us and give us a shit ton of breadth to do our work, the worst divisions tend to be the ones that have massive amounts of documentation requirements and levels of management
No one in SF likes small government. They think it’s the answer to all their problems
When people think of feeding people feet first into wood chippers they think of beaurocrats like these.
Here is an idea. Pass a law in California that says if you run for office you have to live at least one month on the streets while campaigning . If you survive, you are good to go, and if elected you only make 50,000 a year. Then we could have our small Gov't. : )
This is accurate. I live in the mission and it’s rare to see anything be built. The shadow thing is actually a common excuse. Politics in San Francisco are stupid.
I wonder if the Giant Dildo known as Salesforce Tower casts a shadow?? Marc Benihoff just paid the bribes and did what he wanted.
What's stupid is you thinking you could continue to afford to live in SF if more was built. Because that wouldn't be what you could afford. If you live in the Mission, you obviously can't afford what's happened in other parts of the city. I've had friends who had great jobs who had to leave because they couldn't pay the rents anymore. Too high.
Ac Cc I’m not saying that if we build more we could afford it. It’s already too late. If spent more money sooner the price of rent wouldn’t inflate as much as it did. But now market rate is so fucking high already that yeah you are right. I legit was just complaining. Lmao
Knightmonx it’s not really democrats fault... it’s just certain lobby groups fault.
the shadow excuse has been a common excuse since they banned buildings over 6 stories in ancient rome
as soon as they refuse an interview you know they don't know how to defend their stance and don't believe it makes full sense
Achy ka that or they are professionals who would rather not take time out of their day to prepare a comment/interview for every single RUclips video made on the housing crisis here in sf.... I’d hope they have better shit to do with their time, like finding a solution...
Sometimes people don't want to do an interview because they know they're going to be misquoted and it will be in favor of a person with a bias .
Anyone who's ever been misquoted or had something edited to make it look differently than the actual truth will tell you why they no longer wish to talk with the Press
It’s hard to defend that you’re an just establishment land owner under the guise of progressivism who wants to keep supply low so you can ask for whatever rents you want for your falling apart building. More and new buildings would jeopardize that.
snappedoutloco Usually groups advocating for a specific cause want nothing more than the opportunity to market their mission to others. It makes no sense for them to not want to participate in a real show addressing a problem they want to address as well.
is that why trump doesn't let anyone in on anything?
"Our children need sunlight to be raised healthy" 3 minutes later: "Come on, lets get a meal at McDonalds"
Ok, that’s not the reason. Don’t try to explain the problem by criticizing things that don’t matter in the first place
@@yucol5661 Sorry if I sound rude but what point are you trying to make? Its a simple joke pointing fun at the stupidity of the situation.
@@yucol5661 they literally said his application was rejected at one point for a partial shadow on a schoolyard.
Ok, now lets ban mcdonalds 😆
@@keaganthegreat of which a shadow was already there, and it would only be there early in the morning, it is just a stupid situation
Ugh.
"A climbing gym? On Mission Street? What's it gonna be like 5 to 10 years from now?"
Exactly the same, but with a climbing gym.
The strange thing is we are told to just suck it up when a project comes in that will make a neighborhood worse. Projects, section 8, and the like bring crime. My city snuck in a residential mental heath / drug treatment facility. They assured us there would be no problems because if any resident breaks the rules they are kicked out. We pointed out that would just mean even more homeless insane junkies in our neighborhood. We were then told "these kind of places have to go somewhere and this is where it is going." Someone at the meeting said "Well at least maybe some of the homeless, mentally ill drug addicts in the area can get off the street and stop panhandling, stealing and harassing people." That is when they admitted that no one in our county would be admitted to this place. It as built exclusively for residents from Chicago.
So when it is something bad that will lower property values, increase crime and make the area less safe the answer is "suck it up, it has to go somewhere, neighborhoods change." If something would make the area more desirable we are told "This area can't ever change. The blacks, latinos or whoever took it over in the 60's 70's, whenever and they own it forever now. Granted none of them are property owners and rent was higher before they moved in. But they are here now and rent can never go up because reasons."
I doubt very many working class live in Beverly Hills. They all have to commute to come in and do their important jobs and then commute back home to same place with lower rent. With the tech explosion SanFran is just going to become too expensive for the working class. It sucks for people who have rented there for a long time but when you rent you have to pay market prices. It is just how it is.
We all know all of us Latinos hate having fun at climbing gyms. Clearly this is oppression lmao.
He isn't a professional real estate developer... so he doesn't know who to bribe.
or maybe the person who knows already bribed who he/she needed so that to be able to buy it from him for pennies and then be able to re-sell it for millions
Knowing what a bribe is and how to do it without getting caught are very different things.
I wouldn't to hell with them.
True... but you could just contribute to their re-election fund. Blatant bribery is built in to the system.
My thoughts exactly
I hope he gets every penny. This is simply bad behavior not worthy of rational thinking adults.
Not to be Mr. Blackpilled here, but all that money will come from taxpayers. They wasted a bunch of money to stop his building and now they're gonna have to waste even more money in reparations
@@jonathangrey2183 , would the money come from the general fund for SF? do you know which taxes primarily fund the general fund?
@@jonathangrey2183 They deserve it honesty, these people are supposed to be their representatives.
@@jonathangrey2183 The taxpayers that voted for the city council in the first place. Sounds like a fair punishment to me...
San Francisco is a poor investment to begin with. A wiser man would of known better.
Supply and demand, if you build more housing, that will increase supply and reduce price. People in charge (ie, rich people) won't easily let their real estate value decrease by some laundromat owner. Their use of useful idiots is really a shining example of how politics should be done.
How do you figure the laundromat owner's building will reduce real estate value in the area?
@@eggory Supply and demand, the very first 3 words in my post. If a shiny new building pops up, what do you think will happen to cruddy old ones in the area, especially with rent control in place?
Well said, I typically point at Texas for reference to the California housing debacle. While Texas has a higher population growth rate it has lax zoning laws which according to Zillow home value index of $191,900 in Texas versus $547,900 in California.
A tiny home manufactured home community named Palm Canyon Mobile Club in Palm Springs, CA 600 sq ft will cost you $115,000 with a monthly lot rent of $650. Keep in mind 10 years is the max loan term for mobile homes which always come with higher interest rates due to higher risk attempting repossession. So the monthly mortgage alone would be $1,395 + $650 monthly lot rent = $2,045 total monthly cost.
While in Austin, TX at Lakeside Crossing $60K will get you 1,152 sq ft with $300 monthly lot rent. Mortgage monthly costs $728 + $300 = $1,028 total monthly cost. Both of those calculations do not factor in any down payment as I wanted to remove the variable of initial investment costs.
they weaponize stupid people
This is the irony. The rich are letting this happen to secure their property.
This man owns the land...to my Texan mind, this is insane.
Laws for urban development are quite stricter for a reason, in many cities, you can't build high rise (like Washington) others did not allow build some modern art "masterpiece" that will mess up the skyline or create reflections that will heat up the neighborhood. What it seems here to be more of an issue is that some politicians may be weaponizing laws intended to keep the spirit of city architecture and protect other home owners into something that is used to induce bribes from home developers that are too tired to achieve their goals legally when the legal system is corrupted to the point of intentionally creating obstacles to enforce their ways of doing business...
@@IonorReasSpamGenerator im for taking environmental hazard that the development might produce. The actual problem that should indeed be researched and considered.
But that kind studies mainly involve scientists, engineer and medical research among other thing that can usually be done in sufficiently expedite time frame.
Social issues however is a freaak job with lots of hypocrisy and not so good intentions.
You can add reinforcement to your design or choose different materials so your building dont burn your neighborhood.
But if it hurt the activists feeling?
Goodluck fixing that.
It's not just the shitty government, its also a group thats trying to extort money from him
Unfortunately, land is hardly yours to own if you're literally paying the state rent (property tax).
I don't know why we keep referring to politicians and political activists as humans
Poor people will vote and pay for their own bondage as long as they get the government to subsidise the cost of the chains.
Impressive line. Have a happy New Year :)
True
Steve La Dedha nah the rich will give them the chains for free
Well....I would say replace the word "poor" with "stupid". True that many poor people are low IQ, but I have met some intelligent "poor" people. I wouldn't call those people poor though. I'd call them simple & anti-world. They chose the poverty. It's the stupid people that are too stupid to understand the modern day slavery that they demand that are killing our country.
So now building a building = fascism? I missed that day in history class
When I lived in San Francisco, I bought a shithole, it was all I could afford. I was baffled by all the permits I needed for everything. I even got fined for cutting a limb off a tree without a permit.
@@fahs Sounds horribly totalitarian. I would have left SF and moved to America after that.
Well, they are teaching that now. You should drop in to modern history class and see for yourself, comrade.
@@fahs Yeah don't fuck with the trees in California. They have to send out an inspector to make sure your tree is "dead" enough to cut down, even on private property. And they wonder why they have forest fires ALL the time.
it wasn't in the history books back then
Wow - this is actually really hard to watch. It was particularly cringe-worthy to hear the supervisor criticize the developer for "exploiting the system for personal gain." I'm not sure why anyone thinks that those in government are driven any less by self interest.
It's like she thinks that any personal gain is by default evil. Disgusting, pathological ideology of altruism.
And it's not like this guy is going to have any personal gain. If it ever happens for him (or his children), it will be 40 or 50 years, and he will be long dead. It has already cost him $1.25 Million and nothing is even built. Then he has to go through the permitting process and all the other bureaucracy. It could be a decade before anything is actually built.
Says the council official that gets paid over 200K a year
That's the whole point of development! The guy wants to put up an apartment building so he can make money! What's wrong with that?
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO That's Marxism for you.
"exploiting his property for top gain!" I guess they do not like the taxes that would generate? These ppl LOVE to talk and advocate for "RIGHTS" but ignore the RESPONSIBILITY that goes hand and hand with.
This is what drives me nuts. They'd rather tax people for nothing, and keep people poor, than allow people to get rich and get taxes off of them. By making this guy spend so much money on the case, he'd have to raise rent to extreme numbers to break even. If they had just let it happen, he'd probably have some reasonable rent costs.
They’re not upset about people making a lot of money, they’re upset that they aren’t making a lot of money themselves. Hypocritical brainlets
Exploiting property for the highest value is maximizing value for society. That's literally how shit works.
Sure only rich people would be able to afford it at first. But that means less rich people completing for other units in the city.
Every unit of market rate housing creates .6 units of affordable housing just via market forces alone
I'm glad I'm starting to see more people talk about responsibility that go along with those rights people love to scream about so much.
their tactics are not designed to inform, they are designed to humiliate, so the less they adhere to reality the better. when people are forced to repeat obvious lies, and worse, forced to stay silent, they lose their probity. a society of emasculated liars is easy to control. it's a communist propaganda technique.
I was a Real Estate development attorney for several years and can attest that California is literally the worst and most expensive place to develop anything. I jokingly (not so much) refer to these laws as employment laws for attorneys and environmental consultants. They literally will make up things to study. When I left the field, the big thing was to study the "global warming impacts" of your project. Now, by any reasonable standard, that is impossible to quantify for any single project. By their own admission, California itself has a minimal impact on global warming and that's the entire state. How can you measure the impacts of a 10-unit apartment? But, you have to hire a specialist to study it and discuss the potential impacts.
And then, they wonder why housing is so expensive in California.
Lol "partial shade" . Last time I checked, SF is cloudy at least 75% of the year!
The Mission is actually one of the sunnier places in the city and gets a lot of sunlight comparatively. The Sunset and Richmond districts are cloudy almost the entire summer. Anything close to the ocean is buried under fog for much of the summer.
Weight do you need approval to build an apartment building or can you just build it on your property and start renting?
And SF has dozens of skyscrapers that block the sun 95% of the time.
Shut up idiot
That explains why children there grow up to be idiots
"he is exploiting the process for his own personal gain", even though this process went over 4 years and he spent way to much on it. How jaded
Giardinosaur T. That’s they way capitalism works.. profit motivation to perform work. This guy is going to make money by building apartments, we must stop him!
If you're not doing it for personal gain, what's the point.
Setting aside the fact that Americans are now demonized for seeking personal gain. Think about that for a moment. We've started to become defensive when someone "accuses" us of seeking personal gain. Someone says that to me, I yell F-off loudly in their face. But most people back-pedal and apologize and try to defend that they aren't just seeking gain, they stutter and become flustered. It's because we are all being gas lighted, badly. The constitution has at its base, Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, and amendments that strengthen this. Now we act like we've been told that we are evil if we fulfill the promise of our constitution. What days we live in.
You mean he's actually attempting to earn profit? OMG!!! String him up; don't they know that's PURE CAPITALISM in its most BLATANT form? We're SOCIALISTS now. Newsom decided last week; didn't you hear the statement last Tuesday morning on CBS?
People in SF: "I need housing for a normal rent"
SF Democrats: "You want diversity training and transgenders in your daughters shower? Got it, but we need to raise the taxes though"
As soon as he sells it a non profit organization they'll turn around and sell for millions more
and also the people who are behind this charade also dont want anyone to be wealthy or have any financial resources as one of their goals is financial domination over everyone
I live in San Francisco, and this video is extremely accurate.
NOOOOOOO REALLY? A video about the city you live in that's not TV show or movie is accurate. NO SHIT!!!
@@dancalvano8702 What's assburger? Never heard of it. Sounds made up. Dumb dumb making up words. Lol
This is what happens when they bring Mexico here. You end up with feral and low-IQ people pissing over territory like animals. Another decade of that decay and that facade of "protest" will just give way to unbridled racial hate, murders, and civil wars. There is no hope of reversing an Orwellian cesspool of that magnitude.
Kaven Gilbert because it’s the most prosperous tech economy in the world
why do you chose to continue to live there?
"Our children must raise healthy! He's taking away our sun!
"Son, don't touch that needle. No, son! That's not mud!"
never trust anyone that uses "inclusive".
They're being inclusive by preventing new people from coming in or doing what they want. Got it
@mephosto
Why exactly shouldn't I. That seems like a fairly blanket statement
Normally the ones who use “inclusive” are the most non-inclusive and live in the least diverse neighborhoods with the least inclusive and diverse friends.
@@gfox5237 because it's newspeak
Inclusive means even supporting the people that hate you and your way of life. I think its bullshit
Cmon guys, it's the oldest trick in the book. Artificially create a problem (high rents, but can be other things), blame some ethnic or racial group (in this case "gentrifiers" aka Whites, but of course, can be any racial/ethnic group), publicly antagonize said group (redlining, segregation, "those Jewish bankers!", etc), don't actually fix the problem (the people will forget about it anyway), reap the benefits of electoral support for antagonizing the racial group "that's been causing all of our problems". Rinse and repeat.
This is something the 'dixiecrats' did all of the time. They would keep the population poor, blame black people, and get reelected for antagonizing black people (almost all Dixiecrats in the 1890s - 1950s were members of the KKK).
Jews have been at the forefront when it comes to immigration to the west.
ITEOTWAWKI61 Keep blacks under control? Try it you’ll see what we can really do
Good point, audit san francisco real state. How much is owned by jewish firms. The real hand behind this crisis. Not the poor whites. The rich ones.
@Inebriatd vote Bernie and justice democrats. Time to destroy corporate democrats. No more clinton or pelosi or bush or trump. Its over elitists.
Nice story
*San Francisco, the poster child for woke to broke!*
Ill never forget sitting in a city council meeting and hearing a young woman say "I live with 5 roommates and work at a cafe. I am an ARTIST!! I cant afford to live in SF bc cost of rent AND I AM A TAX PAYING CITIZEN!!" I DEMAND...." Uh she is a tax-paying citizen? Bc she does not own land, she pays zero property taxes. Bc she works as an employee, she pays no taxes that biz owners have to pay the city. So, other than sales tax (roughly 10% of SOME of the purchases she makes. Things like food and medicine), she pays no taxes directly to SF. Sf and the ppl that CHOOSE to live there need to realize the rights come with responsibilities. Gov interference breeds problems like these. There is NO reason she cant be an artist in Sacramento or Fresno where the cost of living is WAY lower!!!
As soon as I saw who was blocking it, I knew they wanted the property for themselves. For free. That's all it is. Greed.
SF is the most racially segregated city I've ever seen! I've literally been across the entire US from NY to CA and I've never seen a place more obsessed with race and territory in my life. The racial demographics in SF are mindboggling.
When I pointed this out to "SF Natives" they couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that other cities simply exist. A good friend of mine vehemently denied this fact until she moved to Vermont for College. The next time I saw her she was immediately apologetic for not believing me and was stunned that she just never noticed how racist and tribal SF was until she left. It blew her mind that people in Vermont simply exist and aren't up in arms about racial segregation on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis.
In most cities, there's no set territory for "your people". You simply live your life in the neighborhood you can afford amongst a mix of people. But in SF...you can get harassed simply for having the audacity to be seen in certain neighborhoods. A friend of mine lives in the South Bay and was visiting SF to perform stand-up comedy. He was walking through The Mission and got harassed by a group of Latino dudes who kept shouting at him for being a "gentrifier" and for being "White"...meanwhile, my friend is full blooded Latino and was the first person in his family to be born outside of Mexico. These idiots in SF didn't think he was "Brown" enough to even walk down the sidewalk.
So she moved to one of the whitest places in the country, then came back and saw how tribal people are when the diversity kicks in? Wowee, it's almost like multiculturalism doesn't work, it just creates clashing spheres of monoculturalism.
Vermont is a horrible excample to use, it's 96% white.
@Tyler Smith
She went to College there and lived on the Campus which is not 96% White. Haha. She didn't live in the entirety of Vermont. She lived in a College Town with a large mix of people that just happened to not define each individual neighborhood by race like they do in SF.
@C caymer Europe is already there they are 4 years ahead of us in the USA
@@parisgansmuelly1052 The city I live in is 60% latino, but the racial divides don't exist here. We don't racially segregate by neighborhood.
I lived in California and worked in SF, and saw exactly the kind of thing he's talking about.
10:38
Shes saying this as if that makes him a bad guy...
Its obvious that new living space would be more useful than the laundromat and yet these idiots stop it bcs a guy would make a profit which is literally the entire reason for ppl to do anything
It wouldn’t make a profit overall. More people benefit from publicly fighting him (political points, keeping rent high, not-in-my-back-yard feeling) than him and any future tenants. He benefits but more people don’t (and in the end he did manage to profit as well)
Nothing wrong with owning property and making money out of it. Isn't that the fucking point!?
So what happens when all of the people who have rent stabilized apartments die off or move ? By law the owners have the right to raise the rents so there goes the neighborhood.
If you're trying to sell a car that's worth $10k, should you have to sell it for much less? The owner should be able to charge what he can get.
Agreed, thats what i was getting at.
@@steveb9667 Well if I'm an owner and still able to make decent money without being a total douche and raising the rent then what is the point of screwing low income families over?
I have come to the conclusion that everyone that lives in San Francisco either has left or deserves it. They support this stuff and then act surprised when it doesn't work out for them. Don't feel bad for them just point and laugh.
I live an hour and a half south and look at San Francisco as an expensive shit hole my county isnt any better also
I'm a small time city employee and we get complaints all the time about how bad things are and to me it's like well you voted for this stuff.
Don't be too glad that they're leaving. They'll go somewhere else & support the same policies that made them leave. We need Commie Control.
@@pakilee87 Hopefully things change for the better there. I don't like how many (unlike yourself) across California support this.
Thats Not commie at all. The commie approach would be expropriation, demolition and than to build commieblocks. Commies are a lot but they are Not nimbys blocking massive housing....
San fransisco has just completely turned into a clown car that makes no sense
At $7000 per month rent I would volunteer to tear down my living room and turn it into a 16 bed hostel too.
What a terrible way to live.
@@digitallocations1423 it’s a little less common now. Prices in SF are plummeting, however, everywhere else in the bay rents are sky rocketing
Lmao nah.
I can only imagine the paperwork, permits, hearings, etc., that you'd have to go through to do this.
Building owner: "Hey I want to build a new building on my land"
Activist:"Fascist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Would you want an 8 floor 75 unit apartment complex built on your next door neighbore's lot?
I doubt it.
I am not even a Democrat I agree with the planning board.
@@Novusod Well you are a fuckin idiot. Stew on that.
Novusod - So you would prefer an ever increasing homeless population as more and more people are forced on the street? Hepatitis and other diseases that thrive due to poor housing? Or a vanishing middle class and increased income inequality as the working class flee the city?
Is your motivation simply a "not in my back yard" mentality or a hope to benefit from the escalating real estate prices due to a lack of supply? It's a congested city, if crowds are not your thing then move out.
@@Novusod cities grow, areas change, thats like saying i should be able to have a ranch house built in downtown. People who are in single units, small houses etc are the ones keeping people from being able to have homes. Those not wanting to build more are the greedy ones who are driving up cost, that what this is all about.
Novusod
I guess you’all out there can continue to wallow in human feces
“housing is too expensive in san francisco”
“no you can’t build housing here that’s gentrification”
“why is housing so expensive”
Children need sunlight and graffiti.
Don't forget all those free used drug needles lying around all over the place!
Anchor brewing facility is next door to a school and park. It reeks of fermentation.
@@txag007 I was going to mention the needles but you beat me to it. Then there is the homeless sex they get to watch too.
Make America Right Wing Democratic- Republican- Independent and All Legal and naturalized again...
Those shadow children will be the n'er do wells and needle users of the mission.
Statistically speaking (Cochran Collaborative Studies) mission district supervisors will throw those children under the muni buses after using them to line their democratic-republican-independent pockets...
Liberals are very liberal with other people's money.
These are not true liberals.
So true
I agree with you
@joe jitsu Rightests raise 17 million for a wall, bitch when they have to pay $5.00 extra in taxes.
@@kgal1298, that sounds like an over-generalization and oversimplification of the right and the issues. Are you angry about something? Sincerely, would you like to talk about it?
This is obviously because wealthy locals in the area want to keep their own house/property value up by capping supply.
No it’s not. It’s abour keeping the historic core of the city in tact and not allowing developers to come in and destroy the city’s history and all its old buildings the way it’s happened in every single other American city.
@@nikolasirovica3250 smoke less crack thank you
@@lorissupportguides Read a history book. American cities looked no different to European cities with trams, trains and narrow historic streets all the way up until WWII. Then the car lobby and developers came in, dismantled America's rail network, tore down the historic centers of most American cities to build huge highways running through downtown and convinced wealthy white Americans through a propaganda campaign that driving to work in and out of the city and living in the suburb and buying a house was the american dream.
In the process, most American cities were utterly destroyed as skysrapers were built downtown, highways were built to the suburbs and the American phenomenon of car dependence was born.
All thanks to developers and a short-term trend of car ownership.
You want to destroy a city, then you let developers come in and tear down all of the historic old buildings. But if you care about the history of San Francisco, then you fight to have as much of the city as possible be declared as historic and off touch for developers.
Europe saved its cities in the 1950s from such a fate, and it was the smartest thing they ever did.
@DefinitelyNotDan Building high-rises would be lucrative for developers. I'm talking about single home owners with 30 year mortgages. Their equity it their retirement plan but they also don't want property taxes to increase or the city to change. There are also other factors such as the we were here first mentality, being wary of outsiders and fearing change.
@@nikolasirovica3250 But European cities are much more densely populated and walkable. The U.S actually stopped investing in cities after ww2 and built low income sky scrapers isolated from jobs, and wealth. Investing in mixed income housing with access to jobs, transportation and increasing walkability scores would make us more like Europe.
I can't count how many times my jaw dropped open watching this. I'm so glad I don't live there. Poor Bob.
I think the worst part of this is that his building would've added affordable units to the market. Four years that some families could've found an affordable place to live in that neighborhood and instead Calle 24 blocked them.
Now he has to raise the cost to make up for the lost money spent during that time!!!! Wild
I thought we had it bad here in parts of Europe, a rather sclerotic society that always finds more and often less reasonable objections against new projects. But this stuff is on another level, bordering on malicious behaviour. People with a lot of time, negative energy/ideologies of perpetual oppression and little grasp on reason and facts are moved in positions of power over people who want to develop their community. Insanity!
There called nimbys
The governments of California are populated with far leftists lavishly funded by a few rich property and business owners. Their main objective is to keep the housing scarce, the rents high, and to prevent any new business from upsetting the applecart.
The funny thing is that people who are in power, politicians, the board, owners, people who live there, renters and different activists are NOT the same people and don’t have the same wants. They just match in their results, it’s not one concerted effort but it all together ends up strongly hampering building
@@shrekgamer4199 I understand NIMBY when they don't want a nuclear plant, waste disposal center, a prison, or a Walmart in their part of town, but a small upscale apartment complex? You get a shadow for four hours in the morning over a school playground which I get is not optimal. But in exchange, you get a taxes which can be used to clean up the graffiti all over that school, clean up the needles on the sidewalks around the school, the building will likely have security which will drive away some of the crime around the school. A shadow over a school and some privileged blonds walking with the air entitlement through your neighborhood is a small price to pay. Diversity goes both ways.
Nailed it.
I lived in and loved the Bay area in the 1990's. It was hard to move away but I now truly thank God that I got out of there.
The Mighty Cass I'm 4th generation of California and we moved back in 2001. Your right it was hard the leave but I agree. I'm glad I did.
@@dawnhickman7256 Where did you move to if you don't mind me asking?
I agree, but I do miss living in the SF Bay Area.
I used to go to S.F. in the sixties but have no desire to visit. I spend my money elsewhere.
I wish I'd gotten there in the early 90s, I came in the 2000s and have since left the area. It got so damn expensive and crazy.
The stupidity of this warms my soul and puts a smile on my face.
The stupidity hurts and angers me. I feel bad for the guy
there's nothing wrong with San Fran that another fire and a couple of earthquakes couldn't fix.
Or a low megaton range nuclear bomb...
They will use that to generate victimhood points.
Im surprise they recovered from the last earthquake.
"fire and a couple of earthquakes"
All that would do is create feral politicians looking to devour any voter left, meaning the poor and unfortunate. It would most certainly lead to worse conditions and promote graft and slum lords.
Just a matter of time
Tillman may still have grounds to pursue civil suit against the City of San Francisco for damages. The shadow study can be used as evidence that the city knowingly and negligently delayed approval for his project. Because the city finally approved his project, does not absolve the city of wrongdoing.
He should receive the projected profit for at least three of those four years in damages because more than one year of waiting for approval to build is way too much.
@Sheldon Cooper I find trump to be a complex guy, and I am mixed in my opinion on him, but instead of settling for that kind of bullshit, and going all in on beating them into submission?
Id buy him a beer! And try to convince him that a wall is outright counterproductive
Another example of the Ruling class making sure the servant class can't get ahead.
No, you can't build housing for people. You have to let us provide the housing for you poor, helpless people.
Give people more and more taxpayer-funded necessities, and they will stay on the plantation forever.
It's the lord & serf social model.
@Despiser Despised Yep, and start doing witchcraft praying to DEAD CRIMINALS.
5:45 is the truth. It's ok for it to be developed by an NGO but not him. They want it only being done under their terms and control.
10:37 "Let's be honest, this is about getting top dollar for a piece of property."
Um, yeah? Isn't that literally the point of owning property?
Yeah...and apparently the "unwritten rules" include the SF govt making housing promises that private landowners are forced to pay for (and pay more and more). Sad, but even if I won the lottery, there is no way I'd invest in SF property.
She owns property in the neighborhood, she voted to stop this construction to keep the supply low and her prices high.
Property used to serve a purpose, either be a home or business. The past century has put that conceptual model out there.
It's a lack of understanding of the benefits of capitalism. It's not supposed to be win/lose. Renting a place to live to someone is win/win (you get money and they get a place to live that they're not locked into like a house). What's wrong with that?
When the "partial shadow" argument came up, it was as if that part of the segment was a joke on a skit from SNL.
Straight out of the Parks and Rec townhall meetings lol
Especially god damn stupid because if anything I would WANT my playground in the shade. Don't have to worry about sunscreen or any of that bullshit then.
Fordham university radio station WFUV could not upgrade their tower because it would cast a shadow on a nearby botanical garden.
Yeah, cause we all know it's shade that's the problem, not the fact that an elementary school is completely covered in spray paint.
@@basspig lol but that actually makes sense.
We had goverment built affordable housing. They were called projects and most have been torn down.
....they were breeding pens for the underclass. Thank heaven for Planned Parenthood in Richmond CA!
In Chicago, the public housing Projects were the most gang and drug-ridden spots in the entire urban areas.
go to nickerson gardens in south la... try to not be shot
It's happen when minorities got some power
Yeah where I live everyone avoids the areas with subsidized housing. Nearly always high crime areas
One of the biggest issues with current "affordable" housing is that it actually encourages poverty. The reason is in many states in order to be even considered as a tenant you have to make poverty wages and if you make more than your application is trashed. This encourages a lower level of living to keep housing and other programs that are given to them.
"encourages poverty"? who the fuck wants to be poor...?
That's not a function of the housing though, that's a function of the administration: if the rent were adjusted appropriately as a function of the economic potential AND the salary, people would be encouraged to seek upward mobility.
@@saint_gales Nobody WANTS to be poor, but the way many “affordable housing” projects are administered, the tenants get kicked out if they hit a certain threshold, so after getting a higher paying (and economically more productive) job, they are now forced to seek market rate housing which eats up far more than the small increase they got as a salary increase, making them poorer than if they had just kept the first lower paying job.
If being poor means you can afford things a normal income can’t pay for; lots of people want to be poor.
Which is exactly the problem with your mindset: you're only looking at examples within the US.
Look at how housing is done in countries with decent housing and zoning laws, like you know, Japan, Singapore, and Austria.
So, you wanting to build a house in your property is a fascism now? LOL ;p
Tarou BB yes being white is racist
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"property is theft" dontchaknow?
Property tax it is not your property you are a renter from the Gubberment.
@@Barskor1 oh God, not this debate again lol.
RUclips has been recommending this so hard. I LIVE in Nigeria.
Damn! Also greetings from ny!
you don't have this problem in Nigeria ? Hmm, how bizarre ...
@@acnudus Yeah it's a shithole.
Me, El Salvador hahahah seriously wondering why they cannot show us more local content or something of what we truly see like subscribed channels
well if u look at the world map america is surrounded by lots of countries including nigeria and china its just that theres a big ocean between them and america so i guess its important?
San Francisco:
Personal ideologies = laws
UNWRITTEN RULES.. LOL
“We have to build more housing!”
*Proceeds to prevent housing because of a slight shadow*
One good earthquake and they’ll have a chance to remodel.
If San Francisco was completely destroyed by an earthquake why would the gays be the first ones out of the city? They already have their shit packed.
That made me laugh so hard I farted
@@kyledavis4202
Which comment, mine or Michael's?
Kroban3 the original comment
@@kyledavis4202
Mine is funnier.
Meanwhile in Texas...
Developer: "I want to build a mini amusement park next to some suburbs."
Texas: "Sounds like fun."
*bangs gavel in approval.
TheNinjaDC Nice. Murica'
Texas is awesome
And then Houston gets flooded and they wonder why.....because there were no building and planning efforts made to mitigate flood issues.
I am from The People's Republic of California, move about 15yrs ago; a good friend moved to Texas around the same time. He wanted to build a wall around his property. In the PRC the process is extensive; reports. endorsements (bribes), hearing et cetera.
He went to the country offices and asked how to start the process. The lady behind the counter said: *_"I'd buy some materials and hires some folks."_*
TheNinjaDC Lol in the rich hill country in SA I saw a tiny water park outside a neighborhood in a kids a play ground.
Sounds like racism by La Raza activists is at the heart of this issue.
Sounds like more gentrification. White and upperclassmen people pushing others out of their homes because they like the culture. They then turn the area into a bland fucking place and move on to the next cultural area. It happens constantly.
Duh...that's what LA Raza means......means the race. So they are setting up these areas for more illegal migrants from central america.
@@Kaodusanya I bet many wouldn't be pleased to see a whole lot of hispanics and latinos move into their historically white neighbourhood but if they ever dared say anything, even imply that they were a little bit bothered by it, they would be hanged drawn and quartered by people like You. Yet its okay to opening say you don't want whities moving into your neighbourhood. What. a. joke. Imagine if white people got up and said they don't appreciate low income latinos moving into their neighbourhoods and turning the place into a dirty shithole. Gentrification is just a pc term for racism against people of white skin. You are a hypocrite and a joke. Good Day.
“La Raza” means The Race... its a racist group. And I’m a Latina.
dude la raza meant someone from mexico if you are mexican as in hey that dude is part of the raza same as you would say that there is a/my paisano its not a racist group however this group is named la raza so they are shooting themselves in the foot the fucking idiots
When that guy asked for another study to be done for the shadows I lost it 😅! This is how burecaecy can waste time and money and gets nothing done.
"So these children can live & play & grow in sunlight..." ......amongst gang signs, cement walls, garbage...LOL
Terri Suggs playground was covered in trees too lol
I'll take a gang over Walmart any day.
Making California Mexico Again!
Don’t forget literal human shit all over the ground and used drug needles all over the place.
Ya have you ever been to a Mexican neighborhood before? Talk about a shit hole.
San Francisco is insanity. I can't even watch this, it just frustrates me.
Now shit is collapsing as many companies have left and silicon valley is shifting their employees to work from home. No need to be in the mess anymore. Now, hopefully Elon Musk will move Tesla out of state.
Anyone who chooses to live in California chooses this. I feel bad for him but there has been no hint of any other direction than the one California has taken for the last 40 years. And yes this is San Francisco but really it's California. He should have just sold the property and moved elsewhere.
> He should have just sold the property
Seems that politicians are counting on that to get a bargain for some of their own crony friend.
Most ppl don't choose where they live. You get stuck because it's where you have friends and family.
Yet now theyre moving to texas to create the same friggin environment
You do if you you're a kid. California historically has a high inflow of people not born within the state. The cost of living has effected an exodus to Colorado and we're starting to hear rumblings in Texas. We're "stuck" because of elder parents but if there was need we'd move them with us.
We moved from San Francisco to Los Angeles because of the barriers to development.
7:08 "These are the times that each of us must rise to counter-act the terror of rising fascism." As she stares into an Apple laptop manufactured by slave labor in a fascist country. I don't know what I'm more flabbergasted by, the sheer amount of balls on people like this or the painful lack of self-awareness.
It turns out when nobody understands basic supply and demand principles, the market does undesirable things.
They don't want to know. They want to continue believing in fairy tale communist utopias.
@@benjaminkesler5245 this people are crazier than commies sadly. Commies actually built stuff.
They understand. That is why they refuse. They all probably either directly or indirectly benefit from the artificially inflated property prices either because they own property themselves or else indirectly receive money from those who do.
@@GeorgeMonet I am genuinely curious if there isn't some reason behind it like this. If they own a home or apartment building, then artificially increasing the price by keeping new housing from being built so that they're able to line their own pockets is criminal and in no way supports the communities they claim to be protecting.
@@benjaminkesler5245 weird, since it's the commies that have decent, walkable, midrise housing. Yes, it took years to get a unit, but at least those units exist.
And ironically, Japan and Singapore, countries that are very much capitalist, replicated the commieblock model for middle class public housing and transit-oriented development. It worked.
I live in SF. I've been called racist by numerous people when I said innocent things about development the entitled behavior of those who try to turn everything into a racial issue. It didn't work. I have no guilt. In fact, it did the opposite. I have LESS compassion for their issues. STOP HAVING CHILDREN IF YOU ARE POOR.
@@jfsfrnd Yes!
@jfsfrnd nope. poor people should wait till they aren't poor to have children. instant gratification or cultural tradition isn't a valid excuse to perpetuate poverty and expect everybody else to pay for it. moving out of the bay area is a sad but realistic solution. they can move to AZ and build a cheap earth ship if they want kids while poor.
@jfsfrnd theres no constitutional law that says poor people should have children and expect everybody else to pay for their needs.
@jfsfrnd i expect adults to recognize welfare is a shitty way to raise kids and not have them until they can provide better.
@jfsfrnd would you have kids if you were poor?
The funny thing is the guy at 10:12 saying that a building casting a shadow is somehow interfering in the safety of a child. lol.
Weaponized autism at work.
Sick thing is, most insane leftists believe in shit like that, if they don't, they pretend to. Like supposedly 'ripping the kids out of the arms of the mothers" at the border, yet they are fine with ripping fetuses out of the womb of the mother.
Orwell saw this coming, but even he would vomit at how far it's going. One of these days they'll end up killing each other, but they won't be arrested because they'll claim "we could not have murdered a "fascist" because they're already dead inside" as they're allowed to walk. Pretty soon, EVERYONE is a "fascist"!
That’s probably the only sun kids get today. Didn’t you know video games look the best in the dark?
They do the same thing with guns. “WaHT aBoUT tHe CHiLDRen??”
"Our children need that sunlight to be healthy". After the meeting "hey kids lets get mcdonalds and ice cream"
Keep living there moderate Democrats, you deserve it.
@Mason Crandell the onion used your photo in one of their videos
I find it a little suspect that every person with an opposing viewpoint on this issue 'declined' to be interviewed.
Do you really? Have you ever known the people that constantly screech "rAySiSuM" to have any kind of well reasoned argument?
Yeah and they mostly took short clips with little-to-no context of the actual hearings... very obvious bias in the editing here
I just moved here to California and that is the norm. It's the attitude of rules for thee and not for me, and all to fight against fascism. Supposedly, that is. They are not that sophisticated but propose the most unbased progressive policies and standardizations hurting developers. They will break their own laws. They don't know they hurt the middle class. It's regressive tendencies behind a facade of good intentions.
We just spent 4 years of ‘don’t talk to the opposition, punch them, they are all Nazis! Trust me or I will call you a Nazi and make sure you never work again!’.
San Francisco is one of the most corrupt cities in America. When London Breed became mayor, it became politically expedient for this issue to go away because frankly the voters of the mission are not as important as the majority of voters who are demanding new housing and even though the housing wouldn't go to those voters, the "optics" of the situation and the more press it got, was bad for her voter support. Imagine this - the whackjob activists actually backed off, completely at the mayors request. That goes to show you how strong the grift and patronage is in the city when activists abandon their own causes because it's not politically expedient for the mayor.
This is a real question: Is economics not taught in high school in California??
Of course it is. Marx, Engels, Lennin, etc.
Elijah Henderson no time with all the indoctrination on socialism, gender fluidity, and free abortions
I know - it seems like a lot could be solved if you were forced to take a class on supply side economics before you could run for public office!
It used to be. Don't know how it is now.
It's not a required class in my area of Cali, I graduated 2012. I'm sure in the next couple years here Econ will be labeled a racist / sexist / fascist class and be pulled from class listings all over California.
The "Unwritten rule" he didn't follow was he didn't bribe them with enough free shit, extra additional low-income units, and personal donations.
The SF rule of building is "Follow the law and bribe us with extra shit on top of it. If the law says you have to give 11% of your units up to affordable housing we REALLY mean you need to bribe us with 25%."
These activists would rather see the place burn than allow people they don't like live there IE resourceful educated hard working people
So let me get this straight: in a neighborhood where there isn’t sufficient housing project done because of high bureaucracy, a group of people who are going to benefit by the extra supply which drives prices down, actually are actively trying to keep price up? Is that how it is?
My guess is they've been brainwashed by the bureaucrats
These activists display psychological issues through their behavior. They don't construct any logical argument because they have none so they appeal to feelings.
Because they hate white people enough that they would prefer to shoot themselves in the foot to keep them away.
They're idiots.
They would not benefit. 11% of 75 is 8 units. Only 8 families of the local residents would be able to afford the new laundromat apartment.
As a small business owner, I deal with all the local government nonsense constantly. It’s truly criminal how unelected bureaucrats can charge endless fees and stall development with laws that other unelected bureaucrats write. I feel for this guy and hope he can get his money back from that horrible city.
He's trying to build a high rent property. He spent all that money because he's making a bet that, if he gets to build, will pay off HUGELY for him. Anyone else, after a few thousand or even tens of thousands were lost, would have thought, "Oh, well, not meant to be" and either been happy to have a thriving business or sell the property to another speculator trying to make the same bet he did. Developers don't sit on property if they don't see a profit at the end. And in SF, that profit can be immense nowadays.
Sounds like to me he wasn't paying his "protection" money.
Visited San Francisco in the 80’s when I was a child. Beautiful, modern, clean, fun.
Visited San Francisco a few years ago. Smelled like feces and looked like it too.
Pathetic. Why anyone wants to live there now is beyond me.
Some people have to move because of job promotion. California is a place you should visit not live in.