It's funny to see Dale Comstock in the first one allowing himself to be used as a training aid. He went on to be a top-tier operator (Delta, Special Forces) and a very deadly guy. Check out his biography "American Badass".
I grab this knife when I tried to scoop some ice cream out of a half gallon and it bent the freaking knife. That's what made in China it's all about. If you rely on that you're a fool!
This is all well and good on paper. But in practice, only two of these techniques actually work in a real fight. And the knife that they're peddling is shit! It has a week flimsy tang, and it's made from really weak crap ass Steel!
If you flex and are actually trying to choke the guy, that pressure into thay area won't work Pressure point stuff in a fight almost never do, when both parties are aggressive
Funny story, the two instructors in this video, despite being very close friends, nearly got into a fist fight after this demonstration. Bob, the guy with the mustache applied a full force choke to make the demonstration as realistic as possible. Randy did not know Bob was going to do that. In return Randy (the guy in the blue shirt) pushed pretty hard on the Suprasternal notch (which is very vulnerable no matter what) dropping Bob to his knees. If you've ever had that pressure point applied to you it f**king hurts and you start gagging. I don't mean pushing a little to feel it, but really pushing on it like you mean in. So I respectfully disagree with your assessment. Pressure points are not the answer in every situation, but when you know where they are, and the opportunity arises, they can be extremely effective.
@@FightFast that's not a real fight tho that just sounds like unsafe training practices. most places you just tap and the person stops choking you. are you going to teach tapping out for self defense?
@@FightFast You're right pain compliance can work when the opponent isn't that much of a threat. However I will stand by that pressure point not doing much when it's aggression and blood flowing
@@anti1trainingIt’s just one technique like a strike or a kick. You use it in combination with other techniques. You guys are weird trying to argue with these professional security and special forces guys. They literally inflict pain and kill people for a living. 🤣
It is easy to do these moves when someone is standing like a zombie, not so easy when they are going for it. If it was that easy all the full contact fighters would be doing it.
Problem with pressure points is that intoxicated people won't really feel them. Wrist locks work a bit better. I've tried various things on drunk people when I was working as a doorman and wanted to get them out. Wrist locks for control worked well. Talking them out worked best.
@@Jiyukan it really depends people tend to be more pain resistant when drunk or on other drugs so this hinders the effectiveness of nerve strikes. Also in a heated situation it isnt always possible to get a good shot on the nerves as there are many factors which can ruin the effect such as different anatomy (being fat or very muscular), pain tolerance, type of clothing and movement of the person itself. Nerve strikes are definetly effective no doubt, but it highly depends on the nerves you aim for and your ability to do so.
Ikr some of these people are in their 60's. I studied these VHS tapes years ago. Self defense was more straight forward then. Some of this stuff should "not" be taught to the general public.
I want to see you do this on a none complaint opponent. that's what this is missing. 1. People aren't stupid. They're not just gonna stand there and let you do that. 2. Do the demonstration so people know what to do, then do it under pressure. Because you ain't gonna do 90% of it. And if you do, it's gonna piss them off, and they're gonna start swinging, and the person that tries this is gonna get knocked out, wondering why it didn't work. That "choke, choke" pushing into the neck they are going to grab your hand and go into offensive mode. Y'all have said that you guys have been in fights, been bouncers, etc. But what you are showing says you haven't.
Mr West there has killed a few people with his hands and has really hurt quite a few others. No one will let you do this to them while they stand there. But this type of training is called teaching. They are teaching the common locations and reactions to these points. They are not teaching technique and form. Utilize the use of attacking these points in your training. Boxers have the spot on the chin that is gold. Just jitsu uses blood chokes and air restrictions amongst others. You are correct. No one will let you do this to them, no one will let you give them the ol 1 2 either, but it works...
otoh an experienced bouncer can put you in one of those come-alongs and walk you out the door like he says. i've seen it. the walkee becomes compliant very quickly! you or me doing it, no.
@jgunther3398 I was a bouncer for many years, and come alongs work, but you got to work them into it. They are going to just let you do it. They are going to be fighting the whole time.
Damn dude, nobody’s gonna want to allow u to use them to make demonstration videos anymore. That guy is saying to himself…. “Fuck this shit, u didn’t say u we’re gonna actually perform every move on me, ur just suppose to demonstrate how it’s done. Also… I didn’t sign up for this”
Where are you that you are always being attacked? In over 40 years the only people ever to attack and hit me has been police and sheriff deputies and they outnumbered me.
Yes. Overly aggressive security and police are sadly a big concern. De-escalation is the best technique these days. Walking away with a simple apology keeps you alive. All those commando knife, concealed carry guys and their women are itching to hurt someone... Fuelled by paranoia and hate. You may win the fight -- but get run over by someone in the parking lot, after the confrontation, with their car -- if you rub their ego the wrong way. Just fly under the radar and have a good time. Call 911 asap let people around you especially the bartender and bouncer know exactly what is happening and who is the aggressor. The Commando Knife sounds like a great camping knife. Leave it home on dates. 😂 Cheers! Enjoy the good times!
It's a term used in traditional Chinese medicine. Probably meant to make the technique sound more exotic and esoteric. Basically a marketing gimmick to add to the whole eastern martial art mystique.
Never , never again will a self seviving career politician decide my or my family"s future or lifestyle without my consultation and approva andget paid for it.l
hehe those may work for the average drunk person but not most people that have a clue , if you aer to busy thinking Ihave to hit this or that presurepoint your going down it has to be automatic happen before the thought of doign it or it will probably not work and you will end up hurt, I mean really how many people that are being agressive topwards you are going to be standing ther waiting for you to do something more times then not yoiur going to get suckered
I couldn't understand why these techniques were proving ineffective. I asked a doc. "what up" He explained: nerve strikes NEVER work after your attacker's "central processing unit" has been removed! Most effective: rip his head COMPLETELY off!!!!
Are we going to be dictated to by politicians and political parties or NOT. to rule our lives........bottom line. If so, we can probably then just not bother to vote at all and maintain status quo. That question seems most unclear of all.......
You DO know, that pressure points, are outlawed in MMA for a reason...right? Also, in a real life situation, you don't wait for a referee to say, 'Go!'/'Fight'. In a real life situation, 9 times out of ten, a guy isn't going to ground and pound you...and if he DOES, you use the moves shown here, which a illegal in 'sport' martial arts or competition. It's anything goes in the streets. If the guy isn't still during this demonstration, how would you see precisely where to strike? You are thinking of an MMA gym, where they are sparing and working out, practicing for an audience. THIS is self defence. Techniques that ANYBODY can use against bully's/bigger/stronger attackers.
Who is exactly going to just stand still like a punching bag and let you do these moves😂,😅im a selfish lover 💘 just let them meet 44 without breaking a sweat 💦😈
We were taught all of these in Isshinryu Karate. Good stuff and they work. You don't need the RNC in MMA. The Cross-Face or the Accolade will make a grown man tap or nap, and it's ten times easier to get on them.
Most people looking for trouble usually ain't much trouble at all. I was talking to this girl who was bartending and it was nothing inappropriate and this guy says you're starting to piss me off I said why do I care if you're pissed off and he stumbled over and swung at me and missed and fell over and I just got down and grabbed a hold of him and said are you done? He's like yea yea no problem here lol
problem with a lot of these and I'm not saying they won't work but maybe a low percentage might. There's no resistance from the demo guys so in real life you better be lightning quick pulling strikes like these.
some of those techniques make some sense. but if you are behind the you be better of using a rear naked choke than most of the techniques shown here probably even if you were a woman (although I don't know exactly how much strength a woman possesses ) also you will almost never be behind your opponent in this type of encounter. and as far as pressing with your finger into the notch in his throat you be better of punching your adversary there or at least making a fist and striking with your thumb then pushing it into him and down than using your finger.(although you might consider using your pointing finger as shown here once the hit is delivered and yes the strike also it is unlikely that the attacker will use front choke its not a most efficient way to make someone unconscious even if you are using both thumbs into the notch and you have a person against the wall .it can be done this way if you are much stronger than the other person and the other person panics the assailant would be much better of coming behind his victim and putting a rear naked choke on them than try to choke them by wrapping their hands around their throat. and this is what you need to look out for. or just a punch to a solar plexus for example is more efficient than wrapping your arms around person's throat from the front.
Though alot of this stuff is good. There are alot of people out there who love pain. Also in middle of a fight there is adrenaline dump where pain is muted. Some people have a lot of padding around those areas also. Drugs are another factor for delayed response. If in doubt go the knee. Its a gimme. All the best.
Sticking anybody anywhere with a pin would work you don’t need To learn pressure points were to stick a pencil or a knife because a pen could be used like a Ice pick 🤦🏼♂️
@@FightFast You do not need to know pressure points or is nerve strikes if you’re going to be using a pencil because I grabbed a hold of a pen When I was eight or nine years old and I took out to 16 year olds with it not hitting any pressure points
My da used to hit me with them pressure points hits when I was younger 😂 great times, dunno if it was teaching or trying to toughen me up, miss the owl guy
All of this is way more effective with a kubotan. Just use one as a keychain so its always with you. Hitting someone anywhere hard with one, especially the more pointy ones, concentrates the pain into one spot and really gives you an edge in a fight.
This video struck a nerve
😂😂😂
@brandonpausta2206 A tingling sensation of sorts....when he jammed that pen in the armpit, my whole under region crumbled in on top of itself.
@pargolf......😂🤣 You think
It says 5 but I lost count after 50....
What I know about pressure points 👉🏻 is that some drunks don't feel a thing when trying to control them. But the Stomach #9 works every time. 👍🏻
Its hard to believe that a drunk can resist a nerve...nerves pretty much control everything
@johnspence8141 ...all i can say is give it a try.
when all else fails!!! use the anal probe with the toe of your boot!!! works every time!!!
If someone is messing with me. I say "Would you care to learn about our lord and Saveur Jesus Christ?" They tend to bolt in an efficient manner. 😅
It's funny to see Dale Comstock in the first one allowing himself to be used as a training aid. He went on to be a top-tier operator (Delta, Special Forces) and a very deadly guy. Check out his biography "American Badass".
A hundred dollar knife that’s most likely made in China. Bar room dojo is something different.
I grab this knife when I tried to scoop some ice cream out of a half gallon and it bent the freaking knife. That's what made in China it's all about. If you rely on that you're a fool!
Big THANKS to those assistants!
This is all well and good on paper. But in practice, only two of these techniques actually work in a real fight. And the knife that they're peddling is shit! It has a week flimsy tang, and it's made from really weak crap ass Steel!
So crazy 😅
His "volunteer would-be attacker": "Oh man, what kinda nonsense cruelty am I in for this time around?" 😮
If you flex and are actually trying to choke the guy, that pressure into thay area won't work
Pressure point stuff in a fight almost never do, when both parties are aggressive
Funny story, the two instructors in this video, despite being very close friends, nearly got into a fist fight after this demonstration. Bob, the guy with the mustache applied a full force choke to make the demonstration as realistic as possible. Randy did not know Bob was going to do that. In return Randy (the guy in the blue shirt) pushed pretty hard on the Suprasternal notch (which is very vulnerable no matter what) dropping Bob to his knees. If you've ever had that pressure point applied to you it f**king hurts and you start gagging. I don't mean pushing a little to feel it, but really pushing on it like you mean in. So I respectfully disagree with your assessment. Pressure points are not the answer in every situation, but when you know where they are, and the opportunity arises, they can be extremely effective.
@@FightFast that's not a real fight tho that just sounds like unsafe training practices. most places you just tap and the person stops choking you. are you going to teach tapping out for self defense?
Should we @javelance?
@@FightFast You're right pain compliance can work when the opponent isn't that much of a threat. However I will stand by that pressure point not doing much when it's aggression and blood flowing
@@anti1trainingIt’s just one technique like a strike or a kick. You use it in combination with other techniques. You guys are weird trying to argue with these professional security and special forces guys. They literally inflict pain and kill people for a living. 🤣
It is easy to do these moves when someone is standing like a zombie, not so easy when they are going for it. If it was that easy all the full contact fighters would be doing it.
Problem with pressure points is that intoxicated people won't really feel them. Wrist locks work a bit better. I've tried various things on drunk people when I was working as a doorman and wanted to get them out. Wrist locks for control worked well. Talking them out worked best.
Just lol. A pressure point is a pressure point. Perhaps you should read up what they are ... they work on everything/everyone.
@@JiyukanEverybody think they can pressure point until they get punched in the mouth.
@@Jiyukan it really depends people tend to be more pain resistant when drunk or on other drugs so this hinders the effectiveness of nerve strikes. Also in a heated situation it isnt always possible to get a good shot on the nerves as there are many factors which can ruin the effect such as different anatomy (being fat or very muscular), pain tolerance, type of clothing and movement of the person itself. Nerve strikes are definetly effective no doubt, but it highly depends on the nerves you aim for and your ability to do so.
This ancient are of boolsheehdoh
I feel like I just watched an episode of "How to be a Serial Killer" LMAO!
How the hell are y'all streaming from 1992?
Ikr some of these people are in their 60's. I studied these VHS tapes years ago. Self defense was more straight forward then. Some of this stuff should "not" be taught to the general public.
Another fast strike is the crushing of the larynx with a couple of fingers...works😁
Thx man
A lot of that doesn't work quite as well on people with dead nerves or nerve damage.
Or on those of us that react in the opposite (become more resistant) when nerve pressured. I have seen some inmates fight harder when nerve pressured.
I want to see you do this on a none complaint opponent. that's what this is missing.
1. People aren't stupid. They're not just gonna stand there and let you do that.
2.
Do the demonstration so people know what to do, then do it under pressure.
Because you ain't gonna do 90% of it. And if you do, it's gonna piss them off, and they're gonna start swinging, and the person that tries this is gonna get knocked out, wondering why it didn't work.
That "choke, choke" pushing into the neck they are going to grab your hand and go into offensive mode.
Y'all have said that you guys have been in fights, been bouncers, etc.
But what you are showing says you haven't.
Mr West there has killed a few people with his hands and has really hurt quite a few others. No one will let you do this to them while they stand there. But this type of training is called teaching. They are teaching the common locations and reactions to these points. They are not teaching technique and form. Utilize the use of attacking these points in your training. Boxers have the spot on the chin that is gold. Just jitsu uses blood chokes and air restrictions amongst others. You are correct. No one will let you do this to them, no one will let you give them the ol 1 2 either, but it works...
Yep, it's hard to find non compliant training partners for Mr. West because people, generally speaking, really don't like losing consciousness.
otoh an experienced bouncer can put you in one of those come-alongs and walk you out the door like he says. i've seen it. the walkee becomes compliant very quickly! you or me doing it, no.
@FightFast
I volunteer.
I'll be more than happy to show what the reaction to that would be.
@jgunther3398
I was a bouncer for many years, and come alongs work, but you got to work them into it.
They are going to just let you do it. They are going to be fighting the whole time.
If someone is just talking best not to do any of that.
Damn dude, nobody’s gonna want to allow u to use them to make demonstration videos anymore. That guy is saying to himself…. “Fuck this shit, u didn’t say u we’re gonna actually perform every move on me, ur just suppose to demonstrate how it’s done. Also… I didn’t sign up for this”
this dude is a real jerk ,he was enjoying hurting this guy ,the guy was not too smart either for letting him do it
You put the person down, knee to the face, turn and go LOL
Where are you that you are always being attacked? In over 40 years the only people ever to attack and hit me has been police and sheriff deputies and they outnumbered me.
Yes. Overly aggressive security and police are sadly a big concern.
De-escalation is the best technique these days.
Walking away with a simple apology keeps you alive.
All those commando knife, concealed carry guys and their women are itching to hurt someone... Fuelled by paranoia and hate.
You may win the fight -- but get run over by someone in the parking lot, after the confrontation, with their car -- if you rub their ego the wrong way.
Just fly under the radar and have a good time. Call 911 asap let people around you especially the bartender and bouncer know exactly what is happening and who is the aggressor.
The Commando Knife sounds like a great camping knife.
Leave it home on dates. 😂 Cheers! Enjoy the good times!
Triple warmer?? Where did he come up with these names? Brachial stun!
It's a term used in traditional Chinese medicine. Probably meant to make the technique sound more exotic and esoteric. Basically a marketing gimmick to add to the whole eastern martial art mystique.
This reminds me of my dad. He was an amateur wrestler back in the 1940s when it really meant something.
You mean when they were checking each other oil as often as they could.
How about just punching them in the face real hard ? Always worked for me 😂😂😂
Nerve strike #3. Grab that guy's mustache and pull down hard. 🙂
Never , never again will a self seviving career politician decide my or my family"s future or lifestyle without my consultation and approva andget paid for it.l
I once saw him paralyzed three men in a bar... with a pencil, with a fucking pencil.
Good Stuff! I will use this! Good Defense! Thanks Sir!🙂🙂
Strike the throat or eyes ....simple yet destructively effective
hehe those may work for the average drunk person but not most people that have a clue , if you aer to busy thinking Ihave to hit this or that presurepoint your going down it has to be automatic happen before the thought of doign it or it will probably not work and you will end up hurt, I mean really how many people that are being agressive topwards you are going to be standing ther waiting for you to do something more times then not yoiur going to get suckered
surprised they didn't do much about the diaphragm, it brings most down.
Thank you for not posting bs “nerve knockouts”
ma brother took "get under their nerves" seriously
And just walk em out the door !!!!
Damn!
Dude was not to be F ed with
I couldn't understand why these techniques were proving ineffective. I asked a doc. "what up"
He explained: nerve strikes NEVER work after your attacker's "central processing unit" has been removed!
Most effective: rip his head COMPLETELY off!!!!
At 9.09 I can vouch by experience that he is absolutely correct in describing how people really apply chokes
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@@dabunnyrabbit2620 It wasn't funny when it happened
@@dabunnyrabbit262099 I'll
@@glennrobinson7193 peope like rabbit are just ignorant best not to pay attention to them
Don't mess with a dude that has a fumanchu and wearing a hat that says Karate
Are we going to be dictated to by politicians and political parties or NOT. to rule our lives........bottom line. If so, we can probably then just not bother to vote at all and maintain status quo. That question seems most unclear of all.......
I can feel your "dummies" pain
You DO know, that pressure points, are outlawed in MMA for a reason...right? Also, in a real life situation, you don't wait for a referee to say, 'Go!'/'Fight'. In a real life situation, 9 times out of ten, a guy isn't going to ground and pound you...and if he DOES, you use the moves shown here, which a illegal in 'sport' martial arts or competition. It's anything goes in the streets. If the guy isn't still during this demonstration, how would you see precisely where to strike? You are thinking of an MMA gym, where they are sparing and working out, practicing for an audience. THIS is self defence. Techniques that
ANYBODY can use against bully's/bigger/stronger attackers.
WILD PEOPLE....WHAT SELL THAT LUNATICK....KNIFE......BUY BUY..."SUPER KNIFE".......LUNATICK
Who is exactly going to just stand still like a punching bag and let you do these moves😂,😅im a selfish lover 💘 just let them meet 44 without breaking a sweat 💦😈
I hope these victims get paid well :P
Hey Larry, I'm doing a fun video today and I need a participant. It's gonna be awesome.
Sounds great Joe I'll be there.
Pain: count me in
OMG! Jim West’s assistant in the first video is Dale Comstock before Delta Force and Steroids.
We were taught all of these in Isshinryu Karate. Good stuff and they work.
You don't need the RNC in MMA. The Cross-Face or the Accolade will make a grown man tap or nap, and it's ten times easier to get on them.
Only info I got from this one is never be your friend
Most people looking for trouble usually ain't much trouble at all. I was talking to this girl who was bartending and it was nothing inappropriate and this guy says you're starting to piss me off I said why do I care if you're pissed off and he stumbled over and swung at me and missed and fell over and I just got down and grabbed a hold of him and said are you done? He's like yea yea no problem here lol
problem with a lot of these and I'm not saying they won't work but maybe a low percentage might. There's no resistance from the demo guys so in real life you better be lightning quick pulling strikes like these.
Is the assistant ok. ?? I was suffering for him
WOW I always wondered what happened to the VILLAGE PEOPLE after they split up now I know they are teaching self-defence moves up to number 3
That... is one bold moustache.
"With a fcuking pencil!"
😂this time he won't choke me to hard😂
some of those techniques make some sense. but if you are behind the you be better of using a rear naked choke than most of the techniques shown here probably even if you were a woman (although I don't know exactly how much strength a woman possesses ) also you will almost never be behind your opponent in this type of encounter. and as far as pressing with your finger into the notch in his throat you be better of punching your adversary there or at least making a fist and striking with your thumb then pushing it into him and down than using your finger.(although you might consider using your pointing finger as shown here once the hit is delivered and yes the strike also it is unlikely that the attacker will use front choke its not a most efficient way to make someone unconscious even if you are using both thumbs into the notch and you have a person against the wall .it can be done this way if you are much stronger than the other person and the other person panics the assailant would be much better of coming behind his victim and putting a rear naked choke on them than try to choke them by wrapping their hands around their throat. and this is what you need to look out for. or just a punch to a solar plexus for example is more efficient than wrapping your arms around person's throat from the front.
That's how you beat BJJ i a street fight. This ain't no play fighting. Brutal.
That Freddy Mecury stache deserves a nerve strike......lol
Though alot of this stuff is good. There are alot of people out there who love pain. Also in middle of a fight there is adrenaline dump where pain is muted. Some people have a lot of padding around those areas also. Drugs are another factor for delayed response. If in doubt go the knee. Its a gimme. All the best.
if your opponent is wearing a (thick) jacket it changes the effectiveness as well
i have the vhs tape to Randy Wanner & Bob Taylor , i ended up with the tape when i was about 19 years old.
They work just need to know how to do it. I would use other techniques you know not be stupid, but it does work I've used it many times
The nerve of this guy!
knife on the other hand looks good to me (of course I'm not an expert and showing it so many times distracts from the video)
Sticking anybody anywhere with a pin would work you don’t need To learn pressure points were to stick a pencil or a knife because a pen could be used like a Ice pick 🤦🏼♂️
Is that the title of your forthcoming training program? "Stick anybody anywhere with a pin"...
@@FightFast You do not need to know pressure points or is nerve strikes if you’re going to be using a pencil because I grabbed a hold of a pen When I was eight or nine years old and I took out to 16 year olds with it not hitting any pressure points
Works n hurts yes but..... hahah gotta getta hold of em 1st, most ppl dont stand still .. those points will fucc u up tho iagree
😂
is the knife a scam?
Great comedy act.
Poor guy
Someone sucker punched me in the neck once and it made me stagger and fall
Defendu - Fairbaren
My da used to hit me with them pressure points hits when I was younger 😂 great times, dunno if it was teaching or trying to toughen me up, miss the owl guy
Poor guy😢
All of this is way more effective with a kubotan. Just use one as a keychain so its always with you. Hitting someone anywhere hard with one, especially the more pointy ones, concentrates the pain into one spot and really gives you an edge in a fight.
These can work but YMMV since attackers are rarely static... count on a fair amount of resistance. Depends on the circumstance.
That guy reminds me and looks alot like my middle school gym teacher from back in the day 😏👍
what bs
lets see yu do that with some who are actually fit with some muscle mass on them
The teat dummys face is amazing
Can it be send to europe?
I cant select europe, respect !
Nice videos learned alot.
🙏🍀
So what if they’re not standing there letting you do whatever you want?
Always trust a guy in a bar to train on self defense.
Every time I try these techniques in the bar, no one holds still long enough and I end up in the ER.
Maybe don't go to the bar anymore? Or ask politely next time
@@FightFast Haha
that first demo guy didnt look happy 🤣😂
Time to hit the replay icon, then hit again.
Dude hasn't even ordered a beer yet.
do these work on bears? the nose one best?
Show us how to use that mustach as a weapon
Well, I never been in a fight but " what IF" ur opponent uses these techniques on you first?
Your best defense is awareness. Knowledge is power. There is no hand to hand move that cannot be countered, blocked, or avoided.
porn stash says it all
Plausible arguments and proper demonstration!
Very good video and tips I will definitely use in the future. would to see those nerve points dealing with the liver or spleen. Peace
Also known as the brachial stun. 😮
Poor Joel, lol.
Very Great.
This reminds of me of my old man's (Vietnam vet) self defense lessons.
Nice moves. 👍
Benny hinn technique
And I thought fighting was no longer allowed at The Blue Oyster Bar! 😁👍
MAHONEY! Those are lovers, not fighters!
@@matts1351 😂😂😂