Its a crime that they demolished so many historical buildings during the 60, 70s etc their significance not being taken into account. It makes me sad and angry we missed out on the lost history.
The idea of conservation is fairly modern, if you think what was lost in the 70's was bad, just think how much was lost, built over, ripped out, salvages, etc, in the centuries before. When we have historic accounts of ancient monuments being used for stone for building in the local town with no effort to document it before ripping it apart.
At the end of WWII Europe lay in ruins. Billions of dollars was made available for reconstruction under the Marshall plan. While European cities were painstakingly reconstructed and restored to their former glory, so much so it is difficult to imagine today the utter destruction they suffered, Britain on the other hand, bulldozed what was left of our architectural heritage in cities like Coventry, Liverpool, Manchester etc and spent it's share of the aid money on the establishment of a welfare state.
Technology in the 60s and 70s played a factor too, I've been told by elderly relatives that limitations in building technology and the introduction of the british building safety standards meant it would be impossible to bring some old buildings back into use, apparently space limitations for electrics and plumbing were usually the biggest culprit. Which is sad considering that even now when we have the capabilites, so many old buildings still go unloved.
Another very interesting video, thank you Martin. I live in South Carolina USA and know more about Manchester than many of the inhabitants. Thanks again.
Agreed Lance. Considering we have history literally all around us it’s shocking how much British people know of their own history. Trouble with is people take it for granted because it’s always been there. You drive past a 600 year old castle in Wales and it’s like “just another castle” but each of them are steeped in history.
Great vids with insight, this we have in common! But i gotta come back at you Lance. I live in London GB and know more about Myrtle Beach than many of its inhabitants! Love to Shag! lol. All the best!
Hello Martin ,, After seeing this video of James Brindley's Water Wheel in the Grocers Warehouse again ,,,, It leaves me with a definite conclusion.... This amazing project of Brindleys which remains in surprisingly good order, even after the government of the day, realizing its significant historic value .. have attempted a poorly designed cheap restoration . What most definatily needs to happen now ,is for the Historic Society, or appropriate organisation ,With goverment funding ,,, absolutely must take these workings of Brindleys and undertake a period correct ""FULL RESTORATION"" so these treasures can be seen by the public in full working order ...!!!! They would make a fantastic tourist attraction for the young ,old and overseas visitors .. bringing welcome tourist dollers from abroard . .!!! Now lets see some recognition of James Brindleys brilliance ,, and get cracking with some funding and a start date .... Credit to Martin for raising awareness of such significant artifacts. Much Respect From Down Under
Hello from Michigan, USA. Really I am very intrigued with both your research and exploration. So few stones left unturned. That man Brindley was a true visionary.
Time to settle down for supper. But I would like to take this moment to say that the quality of Martin's work is up there, if indeed it has not surpassed elements of the BBC. Martin just takes hold of the BBC and beats it hard, beats it long. It's safe to say Martin knows how to handle the BBC in terms of quality. 👍
I’ve been saying that for a long time. The beeb are missing out. I think Martin would make a fantastic tv presenter. Especially when you have the whole country to wander about
Thanks Martin... Well enjoying your videos and as soon as possible we are visiting Manchester and in a mo, I'm gonna search for prices to stay in the principle hotel 😎🍀
Hi Martin ...... first time commenting here .... brilliant and informative video as usual thanks. Just wanted to mention that my first job upon leaving school at 15 back in the 1960’s was in a garage on Castle Street off Knott Mill in Deansgate Manchester, the area we now call Castlefields, this was long before all the trendy renovations etc. The garage was called T. Ashcroft & Sons the owner was Tommy Ashcroft it was situated just over the lock gate at the end of the Rochdale canal near the lock keepers cottage over to the left, further along and right underneath the arches was a ramshackle series of stables housing the ponies and the carts that the rag and bone men used to come and hire on a daily basis, these guys were mainly the down and outs of Manchester and used to smell of stale cigarettes and booze ..... the place used to stink from all the piled up horse manure, also beside the Rochdale canal there used to be a timber yard, it used to be a pretty dismal place to work in at the time. Also ..... does anyone remember when Yates’s had a hotel ? It used to be down one of the side streets off market street, I think it was called the Albion Hotel, it was like something out of a Dickens novel, also Yates’s Old Bank Grill which was a cafeteria doing home made style wholesome food, it was down some steps underneath the shops on market street, this was well before they built the Arndale centre. Apologies for being a bit off topic.
@@MartinZero hi Martin thanks for your response I’m well honoured .... I’m a Manc born and bred originally from Chorlton - on - Medlock now living near Warrington, I find all your videos of great value and interest and will hopefully build into an historical archive for future generations to enjoy, great work keep it going for as long as you can. Best regards ...... stay safe ....... Foxy🦊
Big Thanks to people like you keeping our history and heritage alive. I had never come across or heard/read about the subjects of many of your explores. At school it just never came up and that was a Lancashire school where it should have been taught. Just amazing to watch and thanks for taking the time to find out and share your knowledge. All about expanding the mind.
Absolutely fascinating as ever Martin. Thank you for risking life snd limb for no reward whatsoever for us mere land dwellers to see bits of the world we’d never set eyes upon. Brilliant ! You’re a star mate !
Hi Martin I looked through the gate of the grocery store a couple of weeks ago whilst walking around Castlefield. Fascinating place. I was reading on all the pictured illustrations outside the store that the river irk starting at Catsleshaw near Oldham flows through there.
Martin you have got that thing!, I come from Manchester but have lived in California since 72. Didn’t realize that I was surrounded by canals and rivers. In Cali I liked to explore colverts. Not much else in terms of tunnels. But it must be the Mancunian in me.
If you live in Cali you should def check out Cerro Gordo near Lone Pine. I promise you, Martin would be all over that place! So many old mines to explore, plus an old ghost town whose new owner is rebuilding, restoring and preserving. Check out YT channel Ghost Town Living.
Fabulous. So interesting. Brave James with that sinking mud. Bet you had a nice cup of tea after that trip. (Not with James milk). Loved the swans and spaceman. Thank you for sharing. What a clever man Brindley was.
Great intro from James.... Terrific investigation work and film Martin. Mr Brindley was a wonderful engineer. Thank you both, really enjoyable as always.
@@MartinZero watched it over late brekkie.....wow! There must be so much under these manchester streets we dont know about. Awww martin, james is doing well....remember his first appearance....so quiet, but its so nice to see him flourishing. Clearly ur encouragment works wonders. 🐶🐶🐶🙂
Another good video Martin, keep up the good work stops me from getting bored. With a bit of luck some of the restrictions will be lifted over the next few weeks and maybe we can get back to normal. Meanwhile keep safe.
I must say this is the coolest vlog I have seen from your series! Outstanding discovery and details! My compliments Martin. As a history buff these stories really peck may interest. Keep up the great work👍🏻❤️
It's fascinating how video shows an example of previous innovations in material handling that were important in getting us to the present . Each successful innovation increased productivity and lowered costs and scarcity of commodities and increased labor costs after excess labor was often reallocated elsewhere . HEAVY lifting .
It's amazing that the rag-tag bunch of brickwork with the leak at the bottom is holding back the pressure of the canal water. From a science perspective that is scary-amazing. The pressure has to be quite great.
From what Marty was saying, I understood most (if not all) of the bricked-up archway is above the water level, and was simply an means of access to the chamber's wooden platform, where they brought the coal through to be lifted up the shaft. If there were any real pressure behind the water, it would be spraying through with force, rather than just trickling through as seen in the video.
Brilliant video thanks. Brindley was a huge influence on the early canals of the Birmingham network and experimented a lot with lock design and bypass weirs.Its all still there! Possibly his most famous stunt were the staircase locks at "The bratch" although he had to modify them after construction due to water usage.
Hi James and Martin. James you were very brave to go even near that quicksand 💀😱. Love the part of castlefield you explored and the chamber. Hope you both have a great week. 🔴🟡🟢
Another interesting video. We'll done Martin. Amazed that the shaft is still there and it Is a shame it is not open so that people can see it. I know Brindley is credited with all the engineering work on the Bridgewater but please mention John Gilbert. He was the on sight engineer who was responsible for building Brindleys ideas. It is possible that many of the engineering marvels such as the original aquaduct over the Irwell are as much down to him as Brindley.
6:30pm came and went - another week without a video? Sunday evenings not the same without Martin shining a light on another bit of our history. A clever chap that Mr Brindley.
Love your work Martin, great historian who’s passionate and it shows, I’ve mostly been enjoying the recent documentaries you’ve produced as I’m a resident of Salford myself and find all your research fascinating, it definitely answers a lot of questions I have when I wonder about these things :)
thinks for taking us where most of us will never see. much love from the us.
Thanks Joshua all the best
My office is literally 300m from this tunnel and I will never see it either!!!
@@TheFjmtb It can be seen from the path outside of the building next to the canal, so just take a walk!
Sunday night can't begin till Martin uploads a video...
Thanks Leonard
i know we ve been sat here waiting for him . god bless from wigan
Its a crime that they demolished so many historical buildings during the 60, 70s etc their significance not being taken into account. It makes me sad and angry we missed out on the lost history.
Yeah there was a very shit attitude back then
The idea of conservation is fairly modern, if you think what was lost in the 70's was bad, just think how much was lost, built over, ripped out, salvages, etc, in the centuries before.
When we have historic accounts of ancient monuments being used for stone for building in the local town with no effort to document it before ripping it apart.
Bolton once had a Turkish Baths, till Bolton Clowncil turned a classic Victorian amenity into offices, nice.
At the end of WWII Europe lay in ruins. Billions of dollars was made available for reconstruction under the Marshall plan. While European cities were painstakingly reconstructed and restored to their former glory, so much so it is difficult to imagine today the utter destruction they suffered, Britain on the other hand, bulldozed what was left of our architectural heritage in cities like Coventry, Liverpool, Manchester etc and spent it's share of the aid money on the establishment of a welfare state.
Technology in the 60s and 70s played a factor too, I've been told by elderly relatives that limitations in building technology and the introduction of the british building safety standards meant it would be impossible to bring some old buildings back into use, apparently space limitations for electrics and plumbing were usually the biggest culprit. Which is sad considering that even now when we have the capabilites, so many old buildings still go unloved.
Another very interesting video, thank you Martin. I live in South Carolina USA and know more about Manchester than many of the inhabitants. Thanks again.
Agreed Lance. Considering we have history literally all around us it’s shocking how much British people know of their own history. Trouble with is people take it for granted because it’s always been there. You drive past a 600 year old castle in Wales and it’s like “just another castle” but each of them are steeped in history.
Great vids with insight, this we have in common! But i gotta come back at you Lance. I live in London GB and know more about Myrtle Beach than many of its inhabitants! Love to Shag! lol. All the best!
Hello Martin ,,
After seeing this video of James Brindley's Water Wheel in the Grocers Warehouse again ,,,,
It leaves me with a definite conclusion....
This amazing project of Brindleys which remains in surprisingly good order, even after the government of the day, realizing its significant historic value ..
have attempted
a poorly designed
cheap restoration .
What most definatily needs to happen now ,is for the Historic Society, or appropriate organisation ,With goverment
funding ,,, absolutely must take these workings of Brindleys and undertake a period correct ""FULL RESTORATION"" so these treasures can be seen by the public in full working order ...!!!!
They would make a fantastic tourist attraction for the young ,old and overseas visitors .. bringing welcome tourist dollers from abroard . .!!!
Now lets see some recognition of James Brindleys brilliance ,, and get cracking with some funding and a start date ....
Credit to Martin for raising awareness of such significant artifacts.
Much Respect
From
Down Under
Thanks very much Craig
Thanks Martin 👍👍
Cheers Ste
Could we have a moment of silence for the fish.....he was a such a heroic fish.
Also the fishes family wants royalties from any proceeds you might make from this video and their dead relatives appearance .
Bless the fish
Could see from original film bothered you so much not seeing it, well worth going back! Thank you so much, pure quality production too.
Yeah such an iconic place that we never saw properly
Hello from Michigan, USA. Really I am very intrigued with both your research and exploration. So few stones left unturned. That man Brindley was a true visionary.
I just watched Medlock XI again Martin. I had forgotten how much effort it took to get there and to go back again. Respect to you and the guys.
Cheers David
Loved that one Martin. Great atmospheric video and still left with questions. Just how it should be.
Thanks, yeah that bloody water ???
I just love James’ happy smiley face 😊
Time to settle down for supper.
But I would like to take this moment to say that the quality of Martin's work is up there, if indeed it has not surpassed elements of the BBC. Martin just takes hold of the BBC and beats it hard, beats it long. It's safe to say Martin knows how to handle the BBC in terms of quality. 👍
Thank you very much, I appreciate that
Hmmm
Agreed 👍🏿
I’ve been saying that for a long time. The beeb are missing out. I think Martin would make a fantastic tv presenter. Especially when you have the whole country to wander about
Yes he would. I don't know why a production company haven't approached him.
As an ex manc living in Canada I miss this stuff so much thanks James and martin
Brindley was a bloody genius. Those ideas were just bril.
Thank you for showing what my late late grandfather Brindley built he is an amazing man innovative. I love it when you show his wonders.
Thanks Elliot
Thanks Martin... Well enjoying your videos and as soon as possible we are visiting Manchester and in a mo, I'm gonna search for prices to stay in the principle hotel 😎🍀
I’ve got the kettle on. Even watching this video makes a hot cup of tea sound really good.
Another excellent video from
Martin zero productions !!!
Cheers Terry
Hi Martin ...... first time commenting here .... brilliant and informative video as usual thanks.
Just wanted to mention that my first job upon leaving school at 15 back in the 1960’s was in a garage on Castle Street off Knott Mill in Deansgate Manchester, the area we now call Castlefields, this was long before all the trendy renovations etc. The garage was called T. Ashcroft & Sons the owner was Tommy Ashcroft it was situated just over the lock gate at the end of the Rochdale canal near the lock keepers cottage over to the left, further along and right underneath the arches was a ramshackle series of stables housing the ponies and the carts that the rag and bone men used to come and hire on a daily basis, these guys were mainly the down and outs of Manchester and used to smell of stale cigarettes and booze ..... the place used to stink from all the piled up horse manure, also beside the Rochdale canal there used to be a timber yard, it used to be a pretty dismal place to work in at the time.
Also ..... does anyone remember when Yates’s had a hotel ? It used to be down one of the side streets off market street, I think it was called the Albion Hotel, it was like something out of a Dickens novel, also Yates’s Old Bank Grill which was a cafeteria doing home made style wholesome food, it was down some steps underneath the shops on market street, this was well before they built the Arndale centre. Apologies for being a bit off topic.
Ive seen some pictures of it looking a bit like that in the 60's
@@MartinZero hi Martin thanks for your response I’m well honoured .... I’m a Manc born and bred originally from Chorlton - on - Medlock now living near Warrington, I find all your videos of great value and interest and will hopefully build into an historical archive for future generations to enjoy, great work keep it going for as long as you can.
Best regards ...... stay safe ....... Foxy🦊
Yep another great one Martin .
Thanks for going back to re visit this one . Very interesting carved from solid stone what an amazing find 🤩🧱👍🏽
Awesome video Martin... absolutely fascinating.. Thank you so much.
Thanks very much Mark
Big Thanks to people like you keeping our history and heritage alive. I had never come across or heard/read about the subjects of many of your explores. At school it just never came up and that was a Lancashire school where it should have been taught. Just amazing to watch and thanks for taking the time to find out and share your knowledge. All about expanding the mind.
Thanks Jane, glad you enjoyed
Thanks for letting us check out James Brindley's shaft lol
Finally! Someone with my sense of humour!
I am glad you went back to take a better look - amazing stuff, Delivered with style!
Wonderful episode again Martin👌🏻
Thanks Martin et al another fascinating, historical, well researched, and presented tour!
Cheers Terry
Had to smile at what the 'spaceman' was saying, in the opening sequence!
I think he was right
thanks for going back there and completing the story. Great vlog.
Your enthusiasm is contagious, Martin!
lovely
Thanks Tobbe
Thanks, James, for introducing and ending the video. I am one of your fans!
Thanks Diana, I will tell him
Absolutely fascinating as ever Martin. Thank you for risking life snd limb for no reward whatsoever for us mere land dwellers to see bits of the world we’d never set eyes upon.
Brilliant !
You’re a star mate !
5:30 The astronout drawn on the pillar behind is brilliant mate :)
Oh yeah, its become famous in Manc that for a while
@@MartinZero Looks like a Banksy, right?
Hi Martin
I looked through the gate of the grocery store a couple of weeks ago whilst walking around Castlefield. Fascinating place. I was reading on all the pictured illustrations outside the store that the river irk starting at Catsleshaw near Oldham flows through there.
Hi Andy. The Irk starts in Royton yes, It doesnt touch Castlefield. The Medlock does 👍
I love it when you show us old guys shafts.
Nice one Martin. Glad you were able to go back and have a proper look. Great drawings that made everything easy to understand.
Stay safe!
Thanks very much Mike
It always makes me a bit homesick watching your videos. Great music. More please
Thank you Jonathan
fantastic video Martin to re-visit the tunnel and a great intro by James 😁
Just amazing what you are finding, better than time team!
Great informative video Martin, thanks.
Thanks for this Martin and James🙂
Cheers and love from London Ontario Canada! Many hours of your videos made the pandemic easier for me. Thank you for all you do!
Thank you I appreciate that 👍
Yay! I saw those wood slots too... I felt practically archeological for a moment 🙌🏻
I usually miss that sort of detail 😃
Thank you Martin and friend (?) That was most interesting... Our ancestors were trailblazers weren't they ! xx
Martin that was brilliant so good to see you back in your element, Manchester history underground. 👍
Exploring dangerous and muddy places around Manchester so I don't have to! Great video..as usual!
Cheers Tony
Martin you have got that thing!, I come from Manchester but have lived in California since 72. Didn’t realize that I was surrounded by canals and rivers. In Cali I liked to explore colverts. Not much else in terms of tunnels. But it must be the Mancunian in me.
Thanks Susan, yes the tunnels being local hold a fascination
You can explore adandoned mines.
If you live in Cali you should def check out Cerro Gordo near Lone Pine. I promise you, Martin would be all over that place! So many old mines to explore, plus an old ghost town whose new owner is rebuilding, restoring and preserving. Check out YT channel Ghost Town Living.
Starting another great day with a vid from what must me the best youtuber..keep up with your fab work 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🍺
Another brilliant and interesting video keep up the great work
James that was a very interesting video.
I will tell him
Wow, pretty cool. These are very impressive workings today. Just imagine how amazingly futuristic it must have looked to people in the late 1700's.
Absoulty fascinating, thank you Martin. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Nothing more handsome then water worn stone. Another excellent video!
Fabulous. So interesting. Brave James with that sinking mud. Bet you had a nice cup of tea after that trip. (Not with James milk). Loved the swans and spaceman. Thank you for sharing. What a clever man Brindley was.
Great intro from James.... Terrific investigation work and film Martin. Mr Brindley was a wonderful engineer. Thank you both, really enjoyable as always.
Superb Martin, fascinating history. Thank you for the detailed explanation.
Highly educational and enjoyable as always!
Laughed when you called the dish a poor bugger 😅
Lovely for a Sunday evening with a brew, thanks Martin, very interesting 👍
Thank you Natalie
Outstanding exploring in my home city.
Thank you Martin and friends, a wonderful window on history.
Keep them coming. 👍👍👍
Really appreciate you going back down there, I was dying to see what was down that tunnel!
Hi Martin,
A great video,
Very interesting with lots of facts...🙂👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you 👍
Great explore, congratulations blokes.
So glad you've given us our Sunday night fix martin, another great video thanks again.
Thanks very much Phil
Hiya james......that was fab. Right going to watch this now. 😀🐶🐶🐶
Thanks Sarah
@@MartinZero watched it over late brekkie.....wow! There must be so much under these manchester streets we dont know about. Awww martin, james is doing well....remember his first appearance....so quiet, but its so nice to see him flourishing. Clearly ur encouragment works wonders. 🐶🐶🐶🙂
That workmanship is amazing. So interesting. Thank you Martin and friends.
Thanks Katherine
interesting, thanks for an update in to the history of the canals! brilliant video
Good to see you back Martin 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Dart
hands down one of the best channels on youtube
Thanks very much Brian
Hello Martin, catching up on this now :)
Getting better every time thanks Martin.
That was really good, thank you and James. A lot of work to lift goods. Really interesting.
Cheers, yes a great find 👍
That was awesome! Great intro James, that tunnel was amazing especially lit up! Looked fab!
Another good video Martin, keep up the good work stops me from getting bored. With a bit of luck some of the restrictions will be lifted over the next few weeks and maybe we can get back to normal. Meanwhile keep safe.
Fantastic video, really interesting stuff!
Thanks very much Sarah
Another nice one, Martin!
Thank you for the response to the etiquette of including James: he clearly got a kick out of it!
👍
Cheers Bryan
Very interesting Martin. You just never know what’s under ground.
Nice to see you go back there! Fascinating history and that chamber cut out of the rock wow! Thanks Martin!
Yeah I cant imagine how they even begun that job
I must say this is the coolest vlog I have seen from your series! Outstanding discovery and details! My compliments Martin. As a history buff these stories really peck may interest. Keep up the great work👍🏻❤️
Well done, Martin, for coming back to sort out that loose end from your last visit!
Cheers Arne
It's fascinating how video shows an example of previous innovations in material handling that were important in getting us to the present . Each successful innovation increased productivity and lowered costs and scarcity of commodities and increased labor costs after excess labor was often reallocated elsewhere . HEAVY lifting .
It's amazing that the rag-tag bunch of brickwork with the leak at the bottom is holding back the pressure of the canal water. From a science perspective that is scary-amazing. The pressure has to be quite great.
From what Marty was saying, I understood most (if not all) of the bricked-up archway is above the water level, and was simply an means of access to the chamber's wooden platform, where they brought the coal through to be lifted up the shaft. If there were any real pressure behind the water, it would be spraying through with force, rather than just trickling through as seen in the video.
Good job it didnt blow while we were there 😀
Brilliant video thanks. Brindley was a huge influence on the early canals of the Birmingham network and experimented a lot with lock design and bypass weirs.Its all still there! Possibly his most famous stunt were the staircase locks at "The bratch" although he had to modify them after construction due to water usage.
YEAY! I was beginning to suffer from withdrawal symptoms!
Thanks 😃👍
Hi James and Martin. James you were very brave to go even near that quicksand 💀😱. Love the part of castlefield you explored and the chamber. Hope you both have a great week. 🔴🟡🟢
Thanks Ruth, hope your well
How cool thanks for showing this history. Its awesome 👌
Yes I remember watching the video when you first went down there , Very interesting
Thanks Ron
Excellent as usual. Well done Martin and James.
Very interesting. Such innovative engineering. Thank you 👍
Honestly, you should be on the telly Martin. Brilliant video yet again
Thanks very much Lee
Another awesome video, as always. Thanks for all the great adventures you’ve taken us on!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed
Cracking job Lads , never knew that was there , funny how the reconstruction stuff only last a fraction of the original tackle . Like old Cars .
Thanks Swampy
Another fantastic and interesting watch
Thank you Martin and James 👍🏼
Thanks Dan 👍
Great video Martin 😎
Thanks for sharing.
🙂🍻👍🏻
Another interesting video. We'll done Martin. Amazed that the shaft is still there and it Is a shame it is not open so that people can see it.
I know Brindley is credited with all the engineering work on the Bridgewater but please mention John Gilbert. He was the on sight engineer who was responsible for building Brindleys ideas. It is possible that many of the engineering marvels such as the original aquaduct over the Irwell are as much down to him as Brindley.
A great return to unfinished business, Martin. Another otherworldly voyage through a hidden territory. Music was apposite as usual. Full marks. X
Thank you Martin for nice video and a updated. See you next week
Thanks Steffen
6:30pm came and went - another week without a video? Sunday evenings not the same without Martin shining a light on another bit of our history. A clever chap that Mr Brindley.
He certainly was Paul
Thanks to you Mr Martin Zero all the best from sweden
Thank you Alexander
Love your work Martin, great historian who’s passionate and it shows, I’ve mostly been enjoying the recent documentaries you’ve produced as I’m a resident of Salford myself and find all your research fascinating, it definitely answers a lot of questions I have when I wonder about these things :)
Thank you, yes they are fascinating places