Haaland is ahead of Messi only in goals. But how many assists, goal + pass, tackles, dribbles did he have in this season??? Can you guys just count and compare? Messi no doubt should win the GB 22-23
Haaland deserves the ballon dor more. He dominated football during the entire year. Messi only performed for 6 games. And let’s not forget that Argentina won all matches by penalties. So you cannot compare them 2.
@@ahadullahalimi9332 Haaland didn't dominate the entire year. He was lost in important games e.g. finals. He didn't even become the best player in UCL. Manchester City is one of the strongest clubs in Europe Haaland didn't make a difference in this season, anyone in place of Haaland would have had good stats. Compare this season with the previous one and count numbers of goals.
@@kaizhi7837 are you out of your mind? Haaland was unlucky both semi and final, he has a lot of chances to score and played well. Go and actually watch the game instead of just looking at who scored.
@@kaizhi7837 and how did haaland not play good in the ICL when he became the top scorer., was even about to break Messi’s only UCL record but pep substituted him
Haaland is very mid I been saying he's overrated majority of people including myself have been saying Messi will get the Ballon Dor this year and honestly it's well deserved congratulations 🎉 Messi
Yes, in his fifth WC attempt. And a No.1 striker is in big games the focal point for the defence so he has to create space for the guys around him to show up (Gündogan).
MESSI ALL THE WAY!! Being the WC BEST Player and winner is no ordinary feat! Also Messi won 3 tournaments this year just like Haaland with a HIGHER G+A Score! So we wasn't only scoring! But more importantly, he was CREATING for his team! In any other year i would give it to Haaland. But WC year is different!
Haaland began and continued the season with a bang but ended it with a low. After all the terrifying scoring, when defences figured him out and became watertight against him he became powerless and scored just a solitary (01) goal in his last 8 games of the season. Messi in the face of such blockades would almost always be able to find a way to break through and make a goal contribution. In addition to his impressive goal record for PSG, I could argue that he won Ligue 1 for them, considering all his assists and also his goal that earned a draw that led to them clinching the trophy. On the other hand, Haaland disappeared from the most crucial games of the season: the two semi-final matches and the finals of the UCL as well as the FA Cup finals. Messi and PSG may have performed dismally in the UCL but at least they participated and reached the round of 16. Compare that with Haaland being completely absent and inexistent from the greatest of competitions (the World Cup), moreover one where Messi was a beast! Messi also boasts a good record in his 7 UCL matches played. Haaland doesn't create anything special and only managed to achieve what he achieved thanks to a very good team and a prolific coach surrounding him. Messi has much greater impact on his teams and is capable of carrying them, but the same cannot be said of Haaland, who is dominantly a goalscorer whereas Messi is much more. I bet you Messi's PSG this season would hardly have dreamt of achieving what they achieved without him, whereas Haaland's Manchester City would still have been sure of winning even without him, though he greatly boosts the team's goalscoring record. Apart from goals - all Haaland's achievements are tied exclusively to goals - Messi outclasses Haaland in almost all other performance aspects and details. The age factor vis-a-vis performance also lends more credit to Messi. No disrespect to Haaland; he's prolific in every sense of the word, I'm so proud of him and wish him the very best in his career as he's still very young and has much to achieve ahead of him. There's no way anyone in his right senses would overlook his uncommon goal record and accompanying accolades as well as team trophies in 2022/2023. But I reckon that the same reason Cristiano Ronaldo could never ever compare to Messi is the same reason Haaland could never compare to Messi or trump him in this year's Ballon d'Or (taking into account this season's performances, though). A complete goalscorer can't match a complete footballer. At best, Haaland should come in second place, very close like Van Djik and take home the best striker award like Lewandowski.
it's all logical and understandable but one thing i'd consider as a voter is that Haaland couldn't partecipate in WorldCup, but that is a consequence of his value as a player, but just becuase he was born Norvegian. If Haaland had been born maybe brazilian/English/portugese we don't how how things would have changed at National level. So when considering who deserves it more between them you should factor the possibility that maybe Messi shined that much because Haaland wasn't present. If haaland played for a big National team there's a good chance that he would have gotten the World Cup golden ball.
@@FrenxGamesfaaaacts, haaland deserves this ballon dor. He broke most records Won every single trophie and dominated football, in a more impressive feat than Messi
@ahadullahalimi9332 he didn't win the trophies, his team did. He didn't win CL player of the season, rodri did. Unlike messi who won player of the tournament at tge WC.
@@jptributer You implying that Argentina got carried by Messi is horses**t!! Everybody cried since 2014 that Di Maria was Argentina's true best footballer, Martinez was Argentina savior!! I get even grown sick Alexis Mac Allister doesn't even get respect to be better than De Bruyne!! Nahuel Molina took on a heavier task to keep Mbappe off in the pitch!! Go watch River Plate if you think you're a REAL Argentina fan!
Before WC: "its the highest honor in football and you cant be the GOAT without winning the WC" After WC: "he only performed for 6 games.." Alot of morons have come out of the shadows
I think people fail to realise that even without the world cup Messi is the one with the 4th highest goal contributions in the UCL this season . He has been phenomenal in the league too althou PSG overll as a team have been just embarrassing. In my mind there is no doubt Messi deserves the ballon dor more than Haaland, thing with Haaland is that he couldn't influence the champions league ties much after that game against leipzig, and also he was very poor in the final against United. So yeah Messi for his record 8th would be my choice. APPRECIATE GREATNESS.!
@@vanafsossfigokolarios5181 53 games ⚽38 goals 🎯25 assists 🥅63 G/A in 53 games 🏅World Cup Player of the Tournament 🏅World Cup Winner 🏅Ligue 1 Winner 🏅French Super Cup Winner 🏅The Best FIFA Men's Player 🏅Laureus Sportsman of the Year
Messi didn't even come close to Haaland's goal numbers in this season. Even playing friendlies against farmers for the national team. Where was the complete player against Bayern in the Champions League?
Haaland scored some good goals, but the players around him and that system he's been playing in just made it way easier!! He deserves the Ballon dor, but Messi completed football and it's time to honour him with something he deserves!! He must win the super ballond d'or or any special recognition, because we'll never see someone like him!!
Haaland ghosted in important games this season. He didn't show up in the semifinals against Madrid, he didn't show up in the FA cup which led to a treble. (if Gundogan doesn't score those two goals out of thin air we wouldn't be having a conversation about a treble winning side), and he had a horrible game in the final against Inter. He is the only pure strike in that team, to go missing for those important games is not acceptable. Goals doesn't equal a Ballond'or and that is why they have the golden boot as well. Messi was the most important key player in that team and was almost dragging them through every round with playmaking, assists and goals.
if ghosting is what you want to mention its fair to say,but here is the thing messi is doing it with a team thats always winning the league and dominating having good players there,and still its his first season that he won the treble in his first year,but you saying haaland was ghosting against real mardid is a complete lie he nearly made a hattrick courtois made some excellent saves gotta give it to him,if 63 goal contribuations in ligue 1(a League PSG dominates and messi is in) is impressive vs haalands 62 goal contribuations in the Premier League(the top league and most competieve yes haaland is in the best team of the premier league but man city werent winning so easily like PSG)and then we have a world cup from messi,ligue 1 and french super cup vs FA cup,Champions League,Premier League,Golden Boot,European Golden Shoe,Premier League golden boot,breaking Andre Cole record of most goals in a premier leauge season,FWA Football of the year,UCL top goal scorer and tying with Messi with most goals in a single UCL match all in his first season in the toughest league in the world
@@GruffHen Kevin De Bruyne and Gundogan are to be thanked over Haaland. Nearly a hattrick is nothing - what is that on paper and on the score sheet. What kind of a stat is a nearly stat? lol - If you want the toughest league in the world - go to Serie A and score a bunch of goals there.
@GigaZYT excuse me, and city wasn't winning premier league every year before haaland joined? Didn't they also reach the CL final 2 years ago without haaland??
Guess what? So did Cristiano Ronaldo back in 2016! He hardly did anything in UCL final and sat out most of EURO final 2016 and still won 2016 Ballon D'Or! Tell me, do you think that was undeserved? Be fair. Halaand is basically in that kind of candidacy this year.
Haaland: 54 Goals 9 Assists UCL winner PL winner FA Cup winner UCL Top scorer PL Top Scorer Europe Top scorer Premier League Player of the Season FWA footballer of the year Most goals in a single PL season(36 goals)
I think Messi should have stayed in Europe and win 10 Ballon , or before going to where ever. These man will any day win once he is on the list because he is a through man of God.
Messi was good at club level and he was World Class at International level. Haaland was World Class at club level and well he wasn't even there for his International team representing in the WC. Not to take any credit away from Haaland, but it is so unlucky for him that in the year where he won it all club level, there was also the World Cup happened to occur. If it was Euro or Copa America then absolutely no debate, but it's the coveted World cup with which every other competition nullifies it's value!
Another piece of nupe see without Messi Argentina is nothing but for haaland if assist is well good my child can even score so even without haaland Manchester will go
watching Penaldo's dog crying over this gives me joy tbh lol ... Messi just won the world cup .. the biggest competition in the world & was the best player too & still haters will keep hating
So then tell me this. If you worship the world cup above ALL else, why does Mbappe get such a horrible mistreatment for not winning a UCL despite already winning the world cup in a young age?? Please don't say his France squad is stacked with players France had in world cups! They are hardly superstars in club football. Mbappe has already also surged in goal tally for world cup historically!!
@@sab-vl4jg I mean France team is literally stacked tho, make whatever excuses you want but that Mbappe performance is highly overrated especially when it was kingsley coman who snatched the ball off Messi, and look at that pass Kolo Mouani set him up with. They probably have the most balanced team, along with Brazil, germany and Portugal.
@@frickofunky2008 You think Mbappe is overrated but NOT griezmann who is s**t at Atletico, Giroud who is s**t at AC Milan?? Dembele whose club is s**t so far in Europe tournaments, Rabiot who isn't even average!! France was actually hit with a bunch of injuries with that squad!!! England is MORE stacked than France!!!! Look at THEIR NAMES and THEIR CLUBS!!!! I'll give you Kingsley Coman point since he shown his clutch gene for Bayern back in UCL 2020 final! But he didn't even came in starting for France! Camavinga should've had WAY more minutes!! Ferland Mendy should've been called up but DIDN'T!! You're going to act that France would've even got past R16 if not for Mbappe?? For the record, since you are justifying that Mbappe has big help and is not worth being best player, then WTF are fans worshipping CR7 & Halaand for?????
⚽ Lionel Messi and Haaland in their biggest games of the season: 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi in the World Cup final: ⚽ 2 goals 🥶 3 chances created 👟 87% accurate passes 👌🏽 85 touches ⭐ 9.0 match rating 🇳🇴 Erling Haaland in the Champions League final: ⚽ 0 goals 🎯 0 assists 🥶 0 chances created 👟 38% accurate passes 👌🏽 19 touches ⭐ 6.7 match rating Give this man his Ballon d'Or already! 🏆🔥
@@joaoguilhermeoliveira2660where was him against real madrid and inter his team mate save his ass and congrats about bayern they sack a Manger and the Manger make the team bad
Nice job by Haaland but he should stick with the UEFA Golden Boot. Ballon D'or is for the best player period. If he did more than just smash in or tap in goals, makes sense. Do you want Haaland on the ball creating anything? Would Haaland have won the World Cup? I didnt see anything to say he deserves the nod over Messi after the UCL final. Messi pure magic. I wouldnt say no to Haaland but I think Messi just does more for his team and the WC was pretty much orchestrated by him.
All people are biased here for Messi. Come on guys if not for the world cup he wouldnt even be in the top 10 list. And on top of that, Haaland scored 36 goals and 8 assists this season, in the toughest league in the world and from his 1st season there. And then he completely destroyed clubs in the champions league scoring goals and embarrasing defenders (Upamecano 😂).... Furether more, he won the treble, which is on par with a world cup trophy. He demolished and won the premier league, won the champions league, and the FA cup, excelling in all. ( Dont tell me he didnt score in the last 8 games who cares this doesnt prove he wasnt worthy of these titles ) To continue, Halaand had the most goals scored in all leagues, not only in the premier league. I know what messi did in the world cup is pheomenal but he got rewarded for that. He isnt the only one who starred in the argentinian team. The whole team was great, why messi takes the praise?? If the world cup gaurantees ballon dors, then its unfair for players like halaand winning treble and scoring so much goals to just be a wasted season like that. Messi was apreciated he got the rewards he deserved such as the world cup best player and Fifa best player. But as a whole season we shouldnt only look at the world cup. To sum up, the ballon dor is for halaand period. Messi had enough and if he gets it its the biggest proof that fifa is rigged and planned everything for messi to win before he fades away to inter miami.
he doesn't have world cup plus his not Messi an engine for his team, plus Messi has more goal contribution with the same number of trophies as haaland but with a world cup player of the tournament, two goals plus and assist in the wc final , the man when he was needed the most. performed when expectation were high, more legacy defining moments
all other teams that won world cup didnt have a player with 62 goal contribution hance why they never won ballon dor but messi has, messi was the team, messi was the plan and he still performed above expectations with his legacy been questioned. Tell me why haalaand deserves it, maybe u have a strong answer or u just a city fan or a ronaldo fan? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@luckykagiso4380 bro this guy definitely a Ronaldo fan😂😂😂..... Basically right now, anyone arguing against Messi always turns out to be a Ronaldo fan.....Messi gonna win it.... ❤
@@Golias_Thomas Weak club season? 😂 16 goals 16 assists a weak stats according to penaldians. Yeah weak UCL campaign but UCL is not better than the world cup
of course haaland i mean a treble , record breaking and most goal in the ucl with a golden boot like cmon ( prove me wrong and dont say anything about a world cup and the way messi plays )
Lol... Ok we won't talk about Messi. That's the only way Haaland has a chance. Here we go... He went missing. He missed several chances. If someone who doesn't watch football was watching that game he never would have thought Haaland was the best player on the field. Without de bruyn, as some have suspected, Haaland would go hungry.
halland missing world cup/ halland missing ucl semifinal 1/2 leg/ halland missing ucl final/ halland missing fa cup final ......may b halland will miss ballon"dor final 😊😊😊😊
I think Messi win it because of winning World Cup, but I think Haaland really deserve it. Even though he don’t score in the important matches, he still broke many records and win many trophies rather than Messi
So why did Cristiano Ronaldo win his Ballon D'Ors???? We have clearly seen that it was midfielders of Real Madrid doing the heavy lifting of leading the plays in their UCL wins, yet people were SO STUPID to think Ronaldo carries Real Madrid!!
Despite being a Messi fan, Haaland deserves this season's Ballon D'or for his record-breaking achievements and titles especially if Man City wins the treble this weekend
There are season when Messi and Ronaldo scored 40/50 plus a season whilst winning a double and getting robbed. Mostly by one another, and at one occasion by others.
⚽ Lionel Messi and Haaland in their biggest games of the season: 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi in the World Cup final: ⚽ 2 goals 🥶 3 chances created 👟 87% accurate passes 👌🏽 85 touches ⭐ 9.0 match rating 🇳🇴 Erling Haaland in the Champions League final: ⚽ 0 goals 🎯 0 assists 🥶 0 chances created 👟 38% accurate passes 👌🏽 19 touches ⭐ 6.7 match rating Give this man his Ballon d'Or already! 🏆🔥
Has to be Messi. Haaland played well in a team of world class players. With De Bruyne, Grealish, Silva, Mahrez etc feeding you it's no wonder you'd score goals. Dragging your national team with a team of average players to a WC final and winning it is a winning Balon D'or worthy feat. Messi showed up and was the MVP in the games that mattered. Haaland went missing for CL and PL end stages.
WORLD CUP IS TOP OF TOP IF PLAYER IS REMARIABLE IN CLUB BUT USELESS IN NATIONAL TEAM NOT EVEN PLAY WORLD CUP IS NOT ABOUT QUALITY OF PLAYER BUT QUALITY OF CLUB WITH VERY BEST TEAM PLAYERS WITH A LOT S OF MONEY.MESSI IS WINNER AND HE IS 100 PROCENT BELONG TO HIM 8 BALON D OR.
Really Hallandale did good...but he didn't score 1 goal in 8 matches...that's hard...wile.Messi still doing what he does best scoring and assissing goals...and making history around the world...club trophies can't be compared with international trophy that's how I see. It...
Haaland broke the Premier League goal record and was the top scorer in CL winning the triple with City Alvarez won 4 trophies in a single season with World cup, FA cup, premier league and champions league 🤡Messi takes the ballon d'or 🤡
Big difference is Argentina won the WC because of Messi. A lot of PSG plays came together due to Messi's involvement. Man City won the treble because of Pep. Haaland got a lot of his goals on games that they were already up or against lower tier teams. Yes, Haaland accomplished a lot with his goal record. The Ballon d'or, though, is for the best player. Now out of these two, who has the most impact on their team/s? Argentina would've been nothing without Messi. Man City would've done all that without Haaland. If you put all their stats down, looks like Haaland should just be given the Golden Boot....and that's it. He didn't contribute to anything else worth noting. People keep saying HE won the treble. He won the award because his coach and team got him there, but he didn't really contribute like he's given credit for, and I love Haaland. This year just isn't his.
you cant compare Messi 2022 with Iniesta and Xavi 2010. Both spanish didnt make an outstanding performance just like Messi did. They even didnt win the world cup ballon dor.... Forlan did. Iniesta was out a lot of games and Xavi wasnt in the conversation. In 2022 Messi was the assister, the goalscorer, the playmaker and the absolute leader in Argentina winning the world cup with one of the best world cup performances EVER. This is a very strong argument
Messi will win (outstanding World Cup performance, in club people like to bash him but he is the best passer in ligue 1 ) but haaland deserves it in my opinion but the World Cup truly gives the advantage to Messi and also outside of it his club performance wasn’t great but still top class
People say Haaland didnt play in the world cup but the truth is he never made his country qualify for the world cup, reasons why? No de bruyne, no bernado silva, no phoden, no rodri to give him tapins . Truth be told as much as i dislike the ego of mpabbe , kylian deserve 2nd place and Messi obviously will win his 8th in reality his 13th the 5 given to Penaldo was just to create media hype.
Haaland should get it. In 40 years, first and is good and all. But first, first, first, best, top, top and record breaking gallore is something else. Record breaking is what you do when you beat all of history and tell everybody else that I'm not only doing better now, I doing better then anything before...
Messi : won the league won the world cup & won the super cup ... the best player in world cup Halaand can get his golden shoe ... but this award is for best player
Messi vs Haaland this season: ballon d'or race Statistic: Messi did everything better accept scoring goals Messi:.💯 Haaland:💯 - Goals: 37 - Goals: 52 - Assist: 25 - Assist: 9 - G/A: 62 - G/A: 61 - Dribbles: 149 - Dribbles: 19 - key passes - Key Pass: 37 - BCC: 45 - BCC: 13 - Tackles: 40 - Tackles: 8 - MOTM: 29 - MOTM: 17 Trophy Messi:💯 Haaland:💯 - World Cup - UCL - F Ligue 1 - EPL - French S Cup - FA Cup Awards: Messi - WC every stage MOTM - Laureus Sportsman Of The Year - FIFA the Best - WC Golden Ball - WC silver boot - French S Cup Player Of The Season - Iffhs Best Player - Iffhs Best Playmaker - Iffhs Best int-Goalscorer - AIPS Best Male Athlete - Guardian Best Player - L'Equipe Best Player Of The Year - BBC World Sport of The year Haaland: - EPL Player Of The Year - EPL Young Player Of The Year - EPL Golden Boot - European Golden Boot - UCL TopsCorer
Maradona praised as greatest matter fact greatest of all time for that world cup And Messi being more than creticised imagine! I also mean no doubt ok! No doubt Leo should take it before the event itself!
Haaland is ahead of Messi only in goals. But how many assists, goal + pass, tackles, dribbles did he have in this season??? Can you guys just count and compare? Messi no doubt should win the GB 22-23
Haaland deserves the ballon dor more. He dominated football during the entire year.
Messi only performed for 6 games. And let’s not forget that Argentina won all matches by penalties. So you cannot compare them 2.
@LordArtzyX so a number of goals can not be the critical criteria of we talk about different roles.
@@ahadullahalimi9332 Haaland didn't dominate the entire year. He was lost in important games e.g. finals. He didn't even become the best player in UCL. Manchester City is one of the strongest clubs in Europe Haaland didn't make a difference in this season, anyone in place of Haaland would have had good stats. Compare this season with the previous one and count numbers of goals.
@@kaizhi7837 are you out of your mind?
Haaland was unlucky both semi and final, he has a lot of chances to score and played well. Go and actually watch the game instead of just looking at who scored.
@@kaizhi7837 and how did haaland not play good in the ICL when he became the top scorer., was even about to break Messi’s only UCL record but pep substituted him
Lol. Haaland's 52 tap ins are not worth Messi's 1 assist to Molina against the Netherlands in the WC.
Haaland goal vs wolves, southampton, Dortmund, Bayern, Arsenal, West Ham, Leicester, Sevilla, Man U, and Newcastle has left the chat
@@plebbers8799 How many players did he dribble past?
Haaland is very mid I been saying he's overrated majority of people including myself have been saying Messi will get the Ballon Dor this year and honestly it's well deserved congratulations 🎉 Messi
Messi came in clutch when it counted. Haaland didn't!
Absolutely 💯
Where was messi against Bayern 😆😂
Yes, in his fifth WC attempt.
And a No.1 striker is in big games the focal point for the defence so he has to create space for the guys around him to show up (Gündogan).
@@himansurai4179where was haaland in the big games 🤫
@@imperatoralexander Give my man Haaland Space d'or
MESSI ALL THE WAY!! Being the WC BEST Player and winner is no ordinary feat! Also Messi won 3 tournaments this year just like Haaland with a HIGHER G+A Score! So we wasn't only scoring! But more importantly, he was CREATING for his team! In any other year i would give it to Haaland. But WC year is different!
Yeah he won: finalissima, french sup cup, WC, and then finished it off with ligue un
Plus Haaland is in the best team in the world with the best manager in the world. Messi is 35 making it happen almost singlehandedly.
Haaland began and continued the season with a bang but ended it with a low. After all the terrifying scoring, when defences figured him out and became watertight against him he became powerless and scored just a solitary (01) goal in his last 8 games of the season. Messi in the face of such blockades would almost always be able to find a way to break through and make a goal contribution. In addition to his impressive goal record for PSG, I could argue that he won Ligue 1 for them, considering all his assists and also his goal that earned a draw that led to them clinching the trophy. On the other hand, Haaland disappeared from the most crucial games of the season: the two semi-final matches and the finals of the UCL as well as the FA Cup finals. Messi and PSG may have performed dismally in the UCL but at least they participated and reached the round of 16. Compare that with Haaland being completely absent and inexistent from the greatest of competitions (the World Cup), moreover one where Messi was a beast! Messi also boasts a good record in his 7 UCL matches played. Haaland doesn't create anything special and only managed to achieve what he achieved thanks to a very good team and a prolific coach surrounding him. Messi has much greater impact on his teams and is capable of carrying them, but the same cannot be said of Haaland, who is dominantly a goalscorer whereas Messi is much more. I bet you Messi's PSG this season would hardly have dreamt of achieving what they achieved without him, whereas Haaland's Manchester City would still have been sure of winning even without him, though he greatly boosts the team's goalscoring record. Apart from goals - all Haaland's achievements are tied exclusively to goals - Messi outclasses Haaland in almost all other performance aspects and details. The age factor vis-a-vis performance also lends more credit to Messi. No disrespect to Haaland; he's prolific in every sense of the word, I'm so proud of him and wish him the very best in his career as he's still very young and has much to achieve ahead of him. There's no way anyone in his right senses would overlook his uncommon goal record and accompanying accolades as well as team trophies in 2022/2023. But I reckon that the same reason Cristiano Ronaldo could never ever compare to Messi is the same reason Haaland could never compare to Messi or trump him in this year's Ballon d'Or (taking into account this season's performances, though). A complete goalscorer can't match a complete footballer. At best, Haaland should come in second place, very close like Van Djik and take home the best striker award like Lewandowski.
it's all logical and understandable but one thing i'd consider as a voter is that Haaland couldn't partecipate in WorldCup, but that is a consequence of his value as a player, but just becuase he was born Norvegian. If Haaland had been born maybe brazilian/English/portugese we don't how how things would have changed at National level. So when considering who deserves it more between them you should factor the possibility that maybe Messi shined that much because Haaland wasn't present. If haaland played for a big National team there's a good chance that he would have gotten the World Cup golden ball.
@@FrenxGames Haaland is english... He didn't want to play for England...
@@FrenxGamesfaaaacts, haaland deserves this ballon dor. He broke most records
Won every single trophie and dominated football, in a more impressive feat than Messi
@ahadullahalimi9332 he didn't win the trophies, his team did. He didn't win CL player of the season, rodri did. Unlike messi who won player of the tournament at tge WC.
@@jptributer You implying that Argentina got carried by Messi is horses**t!! Everybody cried since 2014 that Di Maria was Argentina's true best footballer, Martinez was Argentina savior!! I get even grown sick Alexis Mac Allister doesn't even get respect to be better than De Bruyne!! Nahuel Molina took on a heavier task to keep Mbappe off in the pitch!! Go watch River Plate if you think you're a REAL Argentina fan!
Before WC: "its the highest honor in football and you cant be the GOAT without winning the WC"
After WC: "he only performed for 6 games.."
Alot of morons have come out of the shadows
"performed" aka 5 penalties sickkkk performance
@@IAmTheTruCanadian you know nothing about football.
@@shintytydon't worry about him look at his pfp he Canadian probably he mad that he country got group in wc
@@Junior-th9rt lol I’m from Canada. I wasn’t mad but disappointed because our defence was very poor and it shows especially at the highest level.
I think people fail to realise that even without the world cup Messi is the one with the 4th highest goal contributions in the UCL this season . He has been phenomenal in the league too althou PSG overll as a team have been just embarrassing.
In my mind there is no doubt Messi deserves the ballon dor more than Haaland, thing with Haaland is that he couldn't influence the champions league ties much after that game against leipzig, and also he was very poor in the final against United.
So yeah Messi for his record 8th would be my choice. APPRECIATE GREATNESS.!
Are you serious😅?
@@vanafsossfigokolarios5181 don't you watch football ?
@@frickofunky2008 it's because I watch football that I ask you that
@@vanafsossfigokolarios5181 Are you serious 🤣?
@@vanafsossfigokolarios5181 53 games
⚽38 goals
🎯25 assists
🥅63 G/A in 53 games
🏅World Cup Player of the Tournament
🏅World Cup Winner
🏅Ligue 1 Winner
🏅French Super Cup Winner
🏅The Best FIFA Men's Player
🏅Laureus Sportsman of the Year
Halaand couldn't even take his national team to world Cup. So how on earth are you comparing him with world cup winner ???
Haaland alway stands to wait for assist and cannot do it by himself but Messi does everything. Messi deserves the Ballon d'or.
Messi didn't even come close to Haaland's goal numbers in this season. Even playing friendlies against farmers for the national team.
Where was the complete player against Bayern in the Champions League?
@@Golias_Thomaswhat about haaland against inter and real madrid??
@@debjyotibasak8997 what about Messi against Bayern?
@vitors.2196 where was paaland against big team I wait
@@Junior-th9rt Where was Pessi against Bayern?
Haaland scored some good goals, but the players around him and that system he's been playing in just made it way easier!! He deserves the Ballon dor, but Messi completed football and it's time to honour him with something he deserves!! He must win the super ballond d'or or any special recognition, because we'll never see someone like him!!
Haaland ghosted in important games this season. He didn't show up in the semifinals against Madrid, he didn't show up in the FA cup which led to a treble. (if Gundogan doesn't score those two goals out of thin air we wouldn't be having a conversation about a treble winning side), and he had a horrible game in the final against Inter. He is the only pure strike in that team, to go missing for those important games is not acceptable. Goals doesn't equal a Ballond'or and that is why they have the golden boot as well. Messi was the most important key player in that team and was almost dragging them through every round with playmaking, assists and goals.
if ghosting is what you want to mention its fair to say,but here is the thing messi is doing it with a team thats always winning the league and dominating having good players there,and still its his first season that he won the treble in his first year,but you saying haaland was ghosting against real mardid is a complete lie he nearly made a hattrick courtois made some excellent saves gotta give it to him,if 63 goal contribuations in ligue 1(a League PSG dominates and messi is in) is impressive vs haalands 62 goal contribuations in the Premier League(the top league and most competieve yes haaland is in the best team of the premier league but man city werent winning so easily like PSG)and then we have a world cup from messi,ligue 1 and french super cup vs FA cup,Champions League,Premier League,Golden Boot,European Golden Shoe,Premier League golden boot,breaking Andre Cole record of most goals in a premier leauge season,FWA Football of the year,UCL top goal scorer and tying with Messi with most goals in a single UCL match all in his first season in the toughest league in the world
@@GruffHen Kevin De Bruyne and Gundogan are to be thanked over Haaland. Nearly a hattrick is nothing - what is that on paper and on the score sheet. What kind of a stat is a nearly stat? lol - If you want the toughest league in the world - go to Serie A and score a bunch of goals there.
@GigaZYT excuse me, and city wasn't winning premier league every year before haaland joined? Didn't they also reach the CL final 2 years ago without haaland??
Guess what? So did Cristiano Ronaldo back in 2016! He hardly did anything in UCL final and sat out most of EURO final 2016 and still won 2016 Ballon D'Or! Tell me, do you think that was undeserved? Be fair. Halaand is basically in that kind of candidacy this year.
Wtf you fool
Messi deserves this award than every single player on this would.
it's a shame haaland didn't score in important matches for Manchester city like the fa cup final and the ucl final
Yea that would have sealed the deal
Didn't even create chances
guys lets not forget ronaldo 2018, he ghosted in the ucl final and semis
What a ghost 👻
So imagine Messi who couldn't do anything against Bayern.
Haaland didn't play in world cup, how can he win it
Haaland:
54 Goals 9 Assists
UCL winner
PL winner
FA Cup winner
UCL Top scorer
PL Top Scorer
Europe Top scorer
Premier League Player of the Season
FWA footballer of the year
Most goals in a single PL season(36 goals)
Messi deserves to win his eighth BD'or... The man is just iconic...
I think Messi should have stayed in Europe and win 10 Ballon , or before going to where ever. These man will any day win once he is on the list because he is a through man of God.
Haaland will at best come very close like Van Djik and get the best striker award like Lewandowski.
Messi
Messi will win but then people will say its rigged
Winners rejoice and failures explain
So then the best player shouldn't get it because people will say it's rigged?
Pessi fan here?
It's rigged if messi wins
@@himansurai4179😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Messi was good at club level and he was World Class at International level.
Haaland was World Class at club level and well he wasn't even there for his International team representing in the WC.
Not to take any credit away from Haaland, but it is so unlucky for him that in the year where he won it all club level, there was also the World Cup happened to occur. If it was Euro or Copa America then absolutely no debate, but it's the coveted World cup with which every other competition nullifies it's value!
remove messi from Argentina and see where the team would be
remove Haaland from city and see where the team would be
Another piece of nupe see without Messi Argentina is nothing but for haaland if assist is well good my child can even score so even without haaland Manchester will go
watching Penaldo's dog crying over this gives me joy tbh lol ... Messi just won the world cup .. the biggest competition in the world & was the best player too & still haters will keep hating
and Haaland was quite ass in the UCL bar that one game tbh
So then tell me this. If you worship the world cup above ALL else, why does Mbappe get such a horrible mistreatment for not winning a UCL despite already winning the world cup in a young age?? Please don't say his France squad is stacked with players France had in world cups! They are hardly superstars in club football. Mbappe has already also surged in goal tally for world cup historically!!
@@sab-vl4jg I mean France team is literally stacked tho, make whatever excuses you want but that Mbappe performance is highly overrated especially when it was kingsley coman who snatched the ball off Messi, and look at that pass Kolo Mouani set him up with. They probably have the most balanced team, along with Brazil, germany and Portugal.
@@frickofunky2008 You think Mbappe is overrated but NOT griezmann who is s**t at Atletico, Giroud who is s**t at AC Milan?? Dembele whose club is s**t so far in Europe tournaments, Rabiot who isn't even average!! France was actually hit with a bunch of injuries with that squad!!! England is MORE stacked than France!!!! Look at THEIR NAMES and THEIR CLUBS!!!! I'll give you Kingsley Coman point since he shown his clutch gene for Bayern back in UCL 2020 final! But he didn't even came in starting for France! Camavinga should've had WAY more minutes!! Ferland Mendy should've been called up but DIDN'T!! You're going to act that France would've even got past R16 if not for Mbappe?? For the record, since you are justifying that Mbappe has big help and is not worth being best player, then WTF are fans worshipping CR7 & Halaand for?????
⚽ Lionel Messi and Haaland in their biggest games of the season:
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi in the World Cup final:
⚽ 2 goals
🥶 3 chances created
👟 87% accurate passes
👌🏽 85 touches
⭐ 9.0 match rating
🇳🇴 Erling Haaland in the Champions League final:
⚽ 0 goals
🎯 0 assists
🥶 0 chances created
👟 38% accurate passes
👌🏽 19 touches
⭐ 6.7 match rating
Give this man his Ballon d'Or already! 🏆🔥
Based on one match 💀
@@plebbers8799 ...
Messi 63 G/A
Harland 62 G/A
Messi deserves the prize
The goat is arrived
Halland did score goals but KDB was the spine of the team..also Halland wasn't decisive in crucial games
Bayern game not crucial game? Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@joaoguilhermeoliveira2660where was him against real madrid and inter his team mate save his ass and congrats about bayern they sack a Manger and the Manger make the team bad
A man city player should win it but not Haaland. Gundogan, Rodri, Debruyne
when he said lad, I knew the whole video motive.
Meesiii, meeesssiii, messi
Lionel Messi deserve to win the ballon d'Or
Nice job by Haaland but he should stick with the UEFA Golden Boot. Ballon D'or is for the best player period.
If he did more than just smash in or tap in goals, makes sense. Do you want Haaland on the ball creating anything? Would Haaland have won the World Cup? I didnt see anything to say he deserves the nod over Messi after the UCL final.
Messi pure magic.
I wouldnt say no to Haaland but I think Messi just does more for his team and the WC was pretty much orchestrated by him.
He got like 5 waits no?
Nah😊
All people are biased here for Messi. Come on guys if not for the world cup he wouldnt even be in the top 10 list. And on top of that, Haaland scored 36 goals and 8 assists this season, in the toughest league in the world and from his 1st season there. And then he completely destroyed clubs in the champions league scoring goals and embarrasing defenders (Upamecano 😂).... Furether more, he won the treble, which is on par with a world cup trophy. He demolished and won the premier league, won the champions league, and the FA cup, excelling in all. ( Dont tell me he didnt score in the last 8 games who cares this doesnt prove he wasnt worthy of these titles ) To continue, Halaand had the most goals scored in all leagues, not only in the premier league. I know what messi did in the world cup is pheomenal but he got rewarded for that. He isnt the only one who starred in the argentinian team. The whole team was great, why messi takes the praise?? If the world cup gaurantees ballon dors, then its unfair for players like halaand winning treble and scoring so much goals to just be a wasted season like that. Messi was apreciated he got the rewards he deserved such as the world cup best player and Fifa best player. But as a whole season we shouldnt only look at the world cup. To sum up, the ballon dor is for halaand period. Messi had enough and if he gets it its the biggest proof that fifa is rigged and planned everything for messi to win before he fades away to inter miami.
But messi has higher goal assist ovwr all..ahhahaha
Haaland deserves it and should win. Convince me!
he doesn't have world cup plus his not Messi an engine for his team, plus Messi has more goal contribution with the same number of trophies as haaland but with a world cup player of the tournament, two goals plus and assist in the wc final , the man when he was needed the most. performed when expectation were high, more legacy defining moments
all other teams that won world cup didnt have a player with 62 goal contribution hance why they never won ballon dor but messi has, messi was the team, messi was the plan and he still performed above expectations with his legacy been questioned. Tell me why haalaand deserves it, maybe u have a strong answer or u just a city fan or a ronaldo fan? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@luckykagiso4380 lmao Messi doesn’t deserve sh**. His trophies will be confiscated after all the scam him and his previous club has done
@@luckykagiso4380 bro this guy definitely a Ronaldo fan😂😂😂..... Basically right now, anyone arguing against Messi always turns out to be a Ronaldo fan.....Messi gonna win it.... ❤
He has no skill no dribbiling no passing skill have no iq onely shoot power and score goals but messi win a wc with a incridible performance
Messi at 31 years scored the same amount of goals as Haaland did this season! And Haaland is supposed to be in his prime.
the balon dor is for whole season, so in my opinion i will give it to the player who performed better the whole season not just in december.
They both performed very well all season. Haaland went down a bit at the last
@@chrislor2882 Then you really shouldn't call Ligue 1 a farmer's league at ALL. If you think that's the case!!
WC comes once in a 4 years. just For your information
@@chrislor2882 haaland had bad performances in ucl final/semis and fa cup final in rest he was ok
@@birukfikre6062 this is about haaland club season vs messi wc
2023 ballon dor ceremony:
Winner is Leo Messi campeon del mundo
Messi = Super Ballon D'or
Haaland = Ballon D'or
win win solution...👍
Why the Super Ballon D'or for Messi if he had a weak season for the club, especially in the Champions League?
@@Golias_Thomas Weak club season? 😂
16 goals 16 assists a weak stats according to penaldians. Yeah weak UCL campaign but UCL is not better than the world cup
@@enyiazah9146 Yes, it was a weak if you compare it to Haaland's season in PL.
@@Golias_Thomasbro...don't forget messi had the top 3 greatest wc performance of all time, if not the greatest
@@deeznuter4828 5 penalties.
of course haaland i mean a treble , record breaking and most goal in the ucl with a golden boot like cmon ( prove me wrong and dont say anything about a world cup and the way messi plays )
Lol... Ok we won't talk about Messi. That's the only way Haaland has a chance.
Here we go... He went missing. He missed several chances. If someone who doesn't watch football was watching that game he never would have thought Haaland was the best player on the field. Without de bruyn, as some have suspected, Haaland would go hungry.
@@lperea21 welp if we talked about the world cup argentina won penalty every game.
@@lperea21 but idk we will just have to wait and see
@@lperea21 bee boop booboo
@@LnK-i2tyou realize penalty is the fault of the other team...
tap in goal machine vs engine of the whole team
Oh i like that... It rhymes
True😂
Yes 🎉
Currently the best striker in the world against PSG's biggest failure in the UCL.
@@Golias_Thomas I don't remember seeing Haaland in the world cup. Did he not score for his national team?
Hallaan is the Top scorers this 22/23 season but MESSI is the BEST he deserves his 8th BALLAN D' OR.. Still the BEST👍💯 💪💪💪🤗🤗🤗🙏🙏🙏
It will be a joke if haaland wins ballon d'or over messi 😂😂😂 he's a good goalscorer and then 😅😅😅
Haaaland!!!!
halland missing world cup/ halland missing ucl semifinal 1/2 leg/ halland missing ucl final/ halland missing fa cup final ......may b halland will miss ballon"dor final 😊😊😊😊
you're missing your father 😭😭
@@StarcanadianXDyou missed all kill immigrants back in the day
I think Messi win it because of winning World Cup, but I think Haaland really deserve it. Even though he don’t score in the important matches, he still broke many records and win many trophies rather than Messi
@sksksbdjdksmsndlligue 1 and French Super cup doesn’t compare to prem and fa cup
Haaland deserves the golden boot, not an award for the best footballer
Ballon Dor Is for The Best Player not for the Best Goalscorer.
Fax
So why did Cristiano Ronaldo win his Ballon D'Ors???? We have clearly seen that it was midfielders of Real Madrid doing the heavy lifting of leading the plays in their UCL wins, yet people were SO STUPID to think Ronaldo carries Real Madrid!!
@@sab-vl4jgcuz he had a better season than messi and he assists as well. Ronaldo contributes so much more than haaland don't even compare bro
If ballon d'or is about trophy then juan Alvarez for sure 😂
In this rating category for the ballon d'or no one beats him.
Messi❤❤❤❤
Ballon D´or 2023 - Haaland VS Messi ,U Gotta be kidding me ,Not even in a 1000 years `
Despite being a Messi fan, Haaland deserves this season's Ballon D'or for his record-breaking achievements and titles especially if Man City wins the treble this weekend
He’ll get his award for the best striker. There’s a difference between a great footballer and a great goal scorer
@@reusamanda9758 true
didn't score in any finals for city and in important games
There are season when Messi and Ronaldo scored 40/50 plus a season whilst winning a double and getting robbed. Mostly by one another, and at one occasion by others.
⚽ Lionel Messi and Haaland in their biggest games of the season:
🇦🇷 Lionel Messi in the World Cup final:
⚽ 2 goals
🥶 3 chances created
👟 87% accurate passes
👌🏽 85 touches
⭐ 9.0 match rating
🇳🇴 Erling Haaland in the Champions League final:
⚽ 0 goals
🎯 0 assists
🥶 0 chances created
👟 38% accurate passes
👌🏽 19 touches
⭐ 6.7 match rating
Give this man his Ballon d'Or already! 🏆🔥
Haaland just scores in a boom 💥 way and his finishing is not good enough as compared to Leo Messi's outstanding performance
After the final
Messi is the winner
Haaland deserve the ballon D'or
La bota de oro indudablemente es para Haaland así como también es Mesi el verdadero Balón de oro que es para el mejor jugador
If Halland had gone to the final of the world cup and loose with nice Mbappe perfomance to Argentina, he would take the ballon d or
Has to be Messi.
Haaland played well in a team of world class players. With De Bruyne, Grealish, Silva, Mahrez etc feeding you it's no wonder you'd score goals. Dragging your national team with a team of average players to a WC final and winning it is a winning Balon D'or worthy feat. Messi showed up and was the MVP in the games that mattered. Haaland went missing for CL and PL end stages.
WORLD CUP IS TOP OF TOP IF PLAYER IS REMARIABLE IN CLUB BUT USELESS IN NATIONAL TEAM NOT EVEN PLAY WORLD CUP IS NOT ABOUT QUALITY OF PLAYER BUT QUALITY OF CLUB WITH VERY BEST TEAM PLAYERS WITH A LOT S OF MONEY.MESSI IS WINNER AND HE IS 100 PROCENT BELONG TO HIM 8 BALON D OR.
❤MESSI WILL HAVE HIS EIGHTH BALLON D’OR❤❤
Halland❤
Messi GOAT, 8th B’Dor, WC 2022
Messi should win, WCUP > CL
Really Hallandale did good...but he didn't score 1 goal in 8 matches...that's hard...wile.Messi still doing what he does best scoring and assissing goals...and making history around the world...club trophies can't be compared with international trophy that's how I see. It...
No one can comparison with messi. Halland can't make score against beeter team
Haaland broke the Premier League goal record and was the top scorer in CL winning the triple with City
Alvarez won 4 trophies in a single season with World cup, FA cup, premier league and champions league
🤡Messi takes the ballon d'or 🤡
1man won worldcup. Messi for sure deserve it.
@@elmakinola3904 last time I checked, there are 11 players in each side, and messi was carried by his team this year
@@vanafsossfigokolarios5181 pass me that weed bro
@@siddharthnaik2361 you probably don't need it
Haaland deserve if not then halland
1 world cup = 4 UCL🙋♂️🙋♂️
Big difference is Argentina won the WC because of Messi. A lot of PSG plays came together due to Messi's involvement. Man City won the treble because of Pep. Haaland got a lot of his goals on games that they were already up or against lower tier teams. Yes, Haaland accomplished a lot with his goal record. The Ballon d'or, though, is for the best player. Now out of these two, who has the most impact on their team/s? Argentina would've been nothing without Messi. Man City would've done all that without Haaland. If you put all their stats down, looks like Haaland should just be given the Golden Boot....and that's it. He didn't contribute to anything else worth noting. People keep saying HE won the treble. He won the award because his coach and team got him there, but he didn't really contribute like he's given credit for, and I love Haaland. This year just isn't his.
halland deserves it
maybe Fifa will try giving it to Penaldo as a gift like they always do ...2013-2016-2021 new award just for him
you cant compare Messi 2022 with Iniesta and Xavi 2010. Both spanish didnt make an outstanding performance just like Messi did. They even didnt win the world cup ballon dor.... Forlan did. Iniesta was out a lot of games and Xavi wasnt in the conversation. In 2022 Messi was the assister, the goalscorer, the playmaker and the absolute leader in Argentina winning the world cup with one of the best world cup performances EVER. This is a very strong argument
I would not be surprised if Messi won it. Messi was always FIFA’s protected one
world champion something Penaldo will never be looooooooooooooooooooool
@@nio5844 Who is Penaldo wth
Ballon d'or is given by France football 🤦♂️
It's not the first time messi has stolen a ballon D'or anyway
Deluded
Ballondor is given by France football who hates Messi
balom de oro es cristiano ronaldo lider mundial som 847 goles recor gunis
Messi a complete footballer with world cup....should win
🤡
Messi will win (outstanding World Cup performance, in club people like to bash him but he is the best passer in ligue 1 ) but haaland deserves it in my opinion but the World Cup truly gives the advantage to Messi and also outside of it his club performance wasn’t great but still top class
This is very easy. Messi is the goat, top and brilliant and magic of all the footballers. MESSIIIIIIIIII
what about mbappe?
Obviously is messi
Haaland
messssiii
People say Haaland didnt play in the world cup but the truth is he never made his country qualify for the world cup, reasons why? No de bruyne, no bernado silva, no phoden, no rodri to give him tapins . Truth be told as much as i dislike the ego of mpabbe , kylian deserve 2nd place and Messi obviously will win his 8th in reality his 13th the 5 given to Penaldo was just to create media hype.
Haaland should get it. In 40 years, first and is good and all. But first, first, first, best, top, top and record breaking gallore is something else. Record breaking is what you do when you beat all of history and tell everybody else that I'm not only doing better now, I doing better then anything before...
And messi scored in all stages of the world cup? That's a new record as well
Súper balón de oro para Messi su trayectoria el ejemplo de vida es un señor dentro y fuera de la cancha
Messi deserves it
Messi should easily win this one it’s incomparable how a world up and club level.
Es que no es goles lo que se debe valorar es el juego que genera Messi
Messi : won the league won the world cup & won the super cup ... the best player in world cup
Halaand can get his golden shoe ... but this award is for best player
the king of the world cuppppppp
Congratulations 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 Messi
Halaand tak ada di final FA dan UCL..
Messi is best
Messi the GOAT. 🎉🎉🎉 will win 🥇
Messi deserve the Ballondor
In shot Lionel Messi wins prestigious World Cup
❤
MESSI IS THE GOAT FOREVER
Messi wins by personal stat
Messi vs Haaland this season: ballon d'or race
Statistic: Messi did everything better accept scoring goals
Messi:.💯 Haaland:💯
- Goals: 37 - Goals: 52
- Assist: 25 - Assist: 9
- G/A: 62 - G/A: 61
- Dribbles: 149 - Dribbles: 19
- key passes - Key Pass: 37
- BCC: 45 - BCC: 13
- Tackles: 40 - Tackles: 8
- MOTM: 29 - MOTM: 17
Trophy
Messi:💯 Haaland:💯
- World Cup - UCL
- F Ligue 1 - EPL
- French S Cup - FA Cup
Awards: Messi
- WC every stage MOTM
- Laureus Sportsman Of The Year
- FIFA the Best
- WC Golden Ball
- WC silver boot
- French S Cup Player Of The Season
- Iffhs Best Player
- Iffhs Best Playmaker
- Iffhs Best int-Goalscorer
- AIPS Best Male Athlete
- Guardian Best Player
- L'Equipe Best Player Of The Year
- BBC World Sport of The year
Haaland:
- EPL Player Of The Year
- EPL Young Player Of The Year
- EPL Golden Boot
- European Golden Boot
- UCL TopsCorer
Ofcourse Messi
Håland
Haaland League cup Champions but Messi Historical International Champion.
Maradona praised as greatest matter fact greatest of all time for that world cup
And Messi being more than
creticised imagine!
I also mean no doubt ok!
No doubt
Leo should take it before the event itself!
Long as it’s not mbappe I don’t care!
ganador es haaland