Finding North Using A Wristwatch
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I love these old Wranglerstar videos.
Boy have things changed.
I think what I appreciate about this video is how you encourage your viewers to practice it...."not just once, but many times....because we forget". You are concerned about people. You are NOT concerned about flexing your "knowledge" muscle to boast or brag. Thanks for that. Your as genuine as your work.
Man, 9 year old video and ever so useful as it is. Thank you.
I’ve used this trick for years and taught it to my daughter when she was a kid. There’s also a fun trick for telling what time it is especially in the afternoon and how long you have left until nightfall!! It’s very useful in the woods for making best use of your time and how long you have to get wood and other things ready for camp! 🌲⛺️ 🔥
Are you referring to the hand method where you take your hand and put it horizontal under the sun and then another under and so on until you hit the horizon. That's how I was taught. The amount of hands is hours left till sunset. Or is it your first hand covering the sun horizontal then hands under that 🤔
One thing to make mention of with the watch is that only works if you’re NOT in daylight savings time. So in other words if you’re between the months of March and November you need to fall the hour hand back one hour to make that work accurately.
If you are under DST, just use "1:00" marker instead of "12:00". That's all...
You make grasping the concepts you advance easy to understand and remember. Best of all, you provide all the information you seek without any time wasted. Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep making these wonderful vids.
Wearing a digital watch, you can always draw a clock on the ground (or even better, on a piece of paper) and use that to guide you. Obviously it won't be as exact, but it's better than nothing.
I tried that at 14:30 but all I got was larger numbers.
Good to see a thinking person that trick absolutely works
if you have a shoe lace and 2 sticks it can be as exact as a wrist watch
Very astute. Surprising how many don't think to do this. Cheers.
A tip. He is in the northern hemisphere
In the Southern Hemisphere the first stick is east, don't get confused. Or lost.
The first stick will always be to the West - in both hemispheres as the sun moves from East to West but the method is slightly flawed - see my comment about 13 above this one
@@johnkothe4812 huh? so the southern hemisphere uses the same method or...?
What if you're on the Equator?🤔
Good observation. I thought that he was in the northern hemisphere that would have put north on the crown side of the watch. Good lesson though, perishable skills land navigation and practice makes better.
Hi!
Local time (24h format)/2= clock direction sun is shining from.
Align clock hour to the direction where sun shines from. Multiple result by 30 to get degrees and add or subtract local variation to get magnetic direction. After aligning 12=North 3=east 6=south 9=west.
For example: 16:00/2= 08:00*30= sun shines from 8 o clock and 240 degrees true direction.
Cheers from finland =)
That makes no sense to me. The comment illustrates why video works better than text alone when explaining how to do a physical activity connected to some information.
Amazing info pal. Do Finns have a name for this method?
That technique is used in the southern hemisphere.
I have been a subscriber for years. You fascinate me with your vast knowledge, reminding me of my departed Grandad. He was a Master Plumber but had general knowledge of many things. He taught me so much! As do you! Thank you!
The Bigman
Regarding quartz watches, I have been replacing my own batteries for years. It's really quite easy and costs me next to nothing. I see no reason to caution against it.
The potential problem is a dead battery in the woods/stranded/etc
@@knpstrr but they don't require constant movement and keep more accurate time. If the watch is your only tool to measure time and find north and you are in a position of concealment or observation for any period of time, the automatic will fail
@@billymadison8036 from a power standpoint the automatic is superior. As far as accuracy you'd have more of an argument there, depending on the situation being off by a minute are two a month is generally not significant. And the superlative chronometers are quite accurate.
@@knpstrr I'm not knocking an automatic one bit. Both have their drawbacks. I've had both. I agree that mechanically speaking, a quality automatic is a more valuable time piece. But if I can only grab 1 watch when the shtf, I'm reaching for my Casio quartz diver.
@@knpstrr also, I wasn't trying to come across confrontational. When I went back and read my comment, it appeared I may have. In the end, what matters is what works best for the individual relying on it. I'm a collector of time pieces and I am fascinated with anything mechanical. My grandfather was a locomotive engineer and I have 2 of his Elgin pocket watch. The detailed craftsmanship amazes me.
Sapphire crystal is more scratch resistant as it is more harder then mineral glass, however; mineral glass is more shatter proof as it is more flexible then sapphire.
thanks, I feel suitably admonished to go out and practise these methods.
Nice watch btw!!!
The sun rises from east to west, so it’s reflection on shadow is in opposite direction
As an odd function has rotational symmetry with respect to the origin
The Sun Doesn't Rise From either direction. It's Stationary.
Thank you for sharing this very informative video. It has taught me a valuable lesson that I so desperately need to teach my children in these harsh times that we are facing today.
I haven’t watched your channel for a while but once more a superb and practical presentation. Thanks!
You would make a great scout master, with all of your knowledge of woodcraft, proper use and care of tools, and how to be a good steward of the earth. I love all of your videos. You should put on workshops for young men and boys if you don't already.
Very cool, I learned two new methods! For a rough direction of North, I typically see where the sun is, and depending on the time of day (rises in the East, sets in the West), can figure it out from there.
You really have a learning channel here, I'm learning things I never knew following your channel, once again thanks for teaching.
Another great video!
Believe it or not, you can do it with a digital watch if you have a piece of paper or something else to write on.
Just note the time on the digital watch, then transfer the time to an analog watch face drawn onto the paper. Then use the drawing the way you showed us on your watch face.
John Cantrell: That's right.....you can also do the same thing without any watch at all.....you just need to know the GMT / UTC / Zulu time (from a radio or TV broadcast, for example) and then you can do the paper & pencil method..
You don't even need paper, you can use your shadow and align yourself as the watch hand.
You dont even need all those above , just see the sky and sun on daylight it will already tell you where east and west
And if its night , just see the Northern Star and it will tell you which is West east North
I like your simple clear explanation.
I agree w others about the watch band but I still subscribed based on this video. Good job.
it made me so happy when you said the morrison quote!
I'd like to note that if the Marathon watch is a little bit much for people Seiko and Orient both make really really good automatic watches with amazing build quality and reliability and can typically be found for under $200. Also, if you don't like the typical large size of a dive watch it's worth looking at a women's dive watch, typically they're styled the same as the men's versions but are smaller.
+ 1 on this comment. LOVE the Marathon, but it's an expensive watch. Seiko's SKX (007 model) is a lot less, very reliable, and a great looking automatic.
Small caution with the Suunto clip-on that you are running. I've ran one on a few of my watches and have discovered that you need to be careful with magnetic interference from the watch that could throw your compass off. To determine if your watch interferes, take the compass off the band, and lay both on a wooden table (away from any screws or nails.) move the compass close to and away form the watch case. Watch carefully for any signs that the watch case causes the compass needle to deviate. I've seen this happen, depending on the watch, for just a few degrees, and sometimes over 20 degrees. I just take mine off when I need a reliable bearing... However, I've come to attaching them on my backpack straps now, away from any metal magnetic interference. Additionally, when using the watch as a compass, it's important to note that during daylight savings time, you need to use the 1 o'clock position, not the 12 o'clock position. Cheers!! Happy adventures.
ExpeditionaryRanger Thank you. I"ll keep an eye on it,
True, however if the watch casing is made from a Ferris-Magnetic material, it will affect the accuracy of the compass while in proximity to the watch.
For the exact and proven survival strategies that our ancestors used in time of need, you should definitely go ahead and google Trankors Survival Secret. There's no price for peace of mind, right?
ExpeditionaryRanger I had the same problem with about 5°.
N/A N/A No way, strong magnetic fields will affect an automatic movement just as badly or even worse than a battery operated watch. Historically, antimagnetic watches were developed early in the 20th century, including the Rolex Milgauss. Many automatic watches have a soft iron ring to help protect against magnetism. Today, Omega has developed a completely antimagnetic movement which needs no protective inner ring.
Enjoy seeing these videos of yours. Thanks!! GOD be with you
Beautiful Marathon piece!
As an Eagle Scout I learned Bothe these methods years ago. Great thing to know.
i really like the stick way of finding north. I like that a lot cause it works with any watch
Genius! LOL
First time I've seen someone explain the bezel clicks so well. Thanks from UK!
Thank you Sir! I've seen this before on another Chan, but your explanation is probably going to be better understood by more people.
+Dano DeMano Thankyou.
In boy scouts we use a stick and the watch. First, set watch to standard time. Then put a thin stick in the ground and lay the center of the watch in the shadow. Then point the hour hand to the center of the stick. Halfway from the shadow to twelve is south. This doesn't work if the watch is set to daylight savings time.
I loved your second tip. that is something everyone should know. Tip of the year for me . Thanks
Nice info, thanks. Which marathon watch exactly are you wearing? I really like that one!!
Love the Marathon....great Canadian company. Been to the shop and talked to the owner...he will give you great service!
I'm watching this wearing my analog automatic watch on a 5-ring zulu band (as opposed to your three ring) also with a Suunto strap compass.
As to the stick method.... I was screaming at the video to do this during The Edge (with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin) who were stuck in Alaska and couldn't figure out which way was north.
I knew both these, and can list several others like moss on tree trunks, disparate melting of ice, or HEY, where is the sun setting right now! But you'd expect me to know these things. I'm the kind of guy who watches Wranglestar.
Keep going, sir.
However....the "halfway" mark you use to find "South", is different for AM vs PM. In the AM, you find the halfway-bisecting mark (south) going *clockwise* to find you bisecting point. In the PM, you count *counter-clockwise* to get to the halfway bisecting point ( that points to South). An important point to remember to differentiate morning from afternoon readings, for this method to work properly and give you the correct result.
Thanks captain obvious.
@@user-bx7nw1ve6y ...What?...."obvious"..... sarcasm much?... the AM vs PM method is certainly not obvious to most reasonable people, and must be observed and done correctly to get the right answer. The bane of the internet....people acting like arses while being beligerent behind a keyboard.
how much does your automatic marathon cost?
Just to note : If you're in the Southern Hemisphere, the bisecting line between the hour hand pointing at the sun, and 12 on watch face, will be due *_North_* !
Either way, you can do it with any watch, or in fact without a watch, you simply need to know the current time - you can then point imaginary hour hand to sun and mentally bisect the line showing due South (in Northern hemisphere) or due North (in Southern Hemisphere).
Thanks for this
Greetings from Poland! Keep up the good work!
Great, easy to follow advice. Nice job!
Solar analogue watches - accurate and only requires a small amount of light to keep it charged
Promaster Diver..and cheaper then the Marathon automatic
@@decoy807 Islander "SKX". An SKX but sapphire crystal, AR, solid bracelet, full lume, ceramic bezel, seiko NH36...... Love my Promaster though.
I have the same Leatherman and I don't go anywhere without it. Fantastic piece of equipment.
Thanks for the info. Always wondered what that ring was for.
Why does your compass on your watch points to North in the other direction? The arrow points north the 30 mark points south, hope nobody gets lost following your advice.
Both pieces of information are just the best. Thanks
Does it only work when the time is set on a particular time zone? If yes, which one?
How could I use it when my watch is set to IST?
I know due north where I live and have checked it many times with an instrument that points north (compass) and this works hands down! Trust me if you go in the woods and there is no path to keep track of where you are you need a compass or a watch like in this video. I have been lost in the woods and you walk in circles...over and over! Don't ask me why...but this could possibly save your life!
I find measuring my hands in detail it really helpful. From the tip of my middle finger to my elbow i measure half a meter. My thumb is 3 cm and the rest of the fingers are 2 cm from which i can easily get 5 cm. My hand is 10 cm in width. My palm is 20 cm long. My foot is 30 cm long. In real life whenever I need to measure something I can really pinpoint dimensions . I advise people to do the same as you are a walking ruler.
Good video! Thanks! I agree with your opinion regarding the strap.
Thanks for teaching me these!
Cool video. I think anyone watching this video and interested in learning will have already gotten a proper compass, especially if they're headed into the bush. Besides that, I'm on my second Suunto watch, which has a compass. It's a digital watch that allows super easy battery replacement. I still recommend learning the stick trick, and I still recommend understanding celestial navigation.
Great video, didnt know the watch method! I'll try right now thanks!
Thanks to you I am very in to NATO-style straps now. Just ordered one for my Omega.
You should check out a suunto core watch. It has many features including an awesome compas
Yes I explained this in the comments. Thank you.
this works fairly well in wisconsin ,minn, and canada close to the equinox i.e. hunting season in texas or florida in the summer around noon useless use your boditch
You're truly awesome dude!
Is the length of the stick critical and, if so, how deeply does one drive it into the ground? Thanks for good information.
Awesome man. Didn't know you know your watches too. The Skx007 or 009 are also some of the best pieces for the price range.
Sapphire is NOT more durable than mineral or acrylic, just more scratch resistant
Augustus you are correct, this is a common misconception when it comes to watch crystals. While sapphire is scratch resistant, mineral crystals are actually more shock resistant, so they are actually best for field watches. Your more likely to crack a sapphire crystal on direct impact than a mineral
Good point, that's why most divers have mineral crystals, can take a direct blow better. What do a few scratches matter anyway to an outdoors man. I believe that quartz watches apart from being far more accurate are also more robust than mechanical ones. The Marathon series quartz watch has an end of life battery indicator and the watch can still run for a couple of months once it kicks in. Seiko and Citizen also have solar powered quartz divers with up to 80 days power reserve. Also servicing an automatic can be very expensive depending on the brand, and regulating them can also be a hassle. So on balance, for an outdoors person I would recommend a quality WR quartz watch with good lume. My Wenger Swiss Military 7290X is rugged and only gains around 12 secs/yr, also very affordable.
Art Mc Teagle I am more worried for the upcoming apocalypse caused by a solar storm and the consequent electromegnetic pulse than to be be lost in the woods. Good luck with your quartz watches, at least keep some inside a metal box (once isolated from it by a plastic bag)
Not to devalue anything you've said in this video, but you could purchase the G-Shock Mudman which is an atomic watch that's synced for every time zone and has a compass. It's also close to indestructible; so much so that it could be used for recreational diving. They should be around $100-150 and will last a lifetime with free insurance for a replacement if they fail in the field. I've worn a G-Shock Mudman for 4 years in everyday life and for recreational outdoors ventures and it still looks brand new.
Heath C and what happens if you lose it? lol
What, did you lose your hand too? Haha
H C I bought a marathon tsar...sitting broken (conveniently just after warranty expired) in drawer. Marathon no help and independent repair company estimate almost as much as buying new. I won't buy anything but solar multiband Casio g-shocks now.
Ps. But a couple of inexpensive lensatic compasses And keep them different places (pocket, backpack, vehicle, etc. your choice)
TSAR is NOT an automatic movement. If batteries or EMP/ magnetic fields aren't an issue then G-Shock is a ok quartz for the money. I have had three g-shocks FAIL in the field for different reasons. The guy with the Jap or Swiss Automatic was the only one still telling any kind of time :-)
Robbie CaptMilkbone Baxter what were you doing that caused the failure?
awesome! Never knew either method... Good stuff, thanks Cody
i have sometimes used that metode but in the opposite way to determine the (about) time by using the compass.
Sir! Brilliant! Thank you. You are a very gifted teacher.
As a wood badge trainee. This has been of great help
Very well presented! Appears to be for the Northern hemisphere only. I would think in the Southern hemisphere the directions are opposite...
You spent more time selling the strap!
It's also just a damn nato style strap.
Not sure wtf a Zulu strap is...
A ZULU strap is essentially a NATO without the second piece.
@@AG.Floats I don't know but there's thousands of 'em.
Get involved! NATO/ZULU is only option!
Love my usmc gsar. Never leave home without it!
Great tips keep em coming.
Tried this today, twice. In the am, about 10 I got a true south & true north no issues. This afternoon--moving the bezel and counting clicks just as instructed--1/2 way b/w the hour hand and 12 was in fact more S-SE per compass.
Man, that was awesome. Thanks
what is the model of this marathon? thank you very much!
Excellent info! This is why people should join boy scouts, girl scouts, military, or any other outdoor info groups! Knowledge is power! Teach you're kids!! And get them off their phones!!
Great video, very informative. Jim Morrison would be impressed. God bless.
My dad taught me the technique with the watch when I was a kid and I have used it many times. I didnt know the stick method though. Of course I used the variation for the southern hemisphere.
If the 30 position is pointing due north why is the compass on your watch pointing in just about the opposite direction?
I'm curious too. Is the metal in the watch magnetic? If so, that's not a super place for a compass :)
he was indoors I guess
Because he was indoor and the hour hand was not pointed towards the sun
Looks like he did it inside and was just showing the method, so he didn't actually use the Sun as a reference.
stang7043 this guy is a jerk off that’s not true. I have a compass just did it with my watch and not true
Thanks. Just subscribed. Godspeed.
Nice video. Just a quick note, the watch method of finding true north differs depending on if you are on the northern hemisphere or the southern hemisphere. Cheers.
Does the watch need to be set on standard time or daylight time? Does the interval with the stick trick need to be exactly fifteen minutes?
Great information thanks a lot. I knew how to tell directions from analog watch, but not the stick thing....
I would have appreciated it if you took the time to actually do the hour hand method outside.. I wanted to know how accurate this method really is
Thanks Man! Really appreciate this knowledge. For some reason, I am fascinated with compass direction, seasons, and celestial navigation et al. Must have been an Egyptian in a previous life or something ;) Stay well. - c
Good info I know it’s old but grateful I stumbled upon it. Thank you sir!
Love that Marathon watch, but I didn't have the coin for it a few years back, so I went with a Seiko SKX 779 Black Monster. Very similar, for about $250-, and it's a great watch at a great value point.
These methods only apply in the northern hemisphere.
Also, do they make self winding chronographs?
William Peek yes
You obviously need to consider weather your watch is in Daylight Savings or the Standard Time mode. Could you add an explanation on how that factor affects the watch method?
Magnetic King: Just set your watch to the current GMT / UTC time and it will work.
Excellent produced video.
When you were wrapping up the watch method and saying the 30 mark on the bezel is pointing N the compass attached to the wristband doesn't seem to agree.
it was for the purpose of demonstration, I do believe.
Try the watch trick in the tropics. It's complicated as the sun can be passing either north or south and near impossible around midday.
Aristotle said it, and you subscribe as well as I do, "What we must do, we learn by doing." People talk about book learning, and yes, it is possible, for those who can accurately model all the components in their mind. But it seldom works well, almost never supercedes experience... with the rare exception of Nikola Tesla or the like. Bravo.
Such a nice limited run marathon. Wsd actually just doing research on this watch last night very funny this video recommended to me today. If ur a marathon guy my respect for you just upped tenfold
Fascinating and usefu. Thanks for posting.
Also for the watch method, don't forget it only works in the northern hemisphere. In the southern hemisphere, the 12 on the watch face points at the sun, and the N/S line is between that and the hour hand.
Love that you chose a Marathon watch. Strong as a ship! 🚢
Incredible I learned this from my grandfather wen he got lost in the woods in Canada station there in the army right after World War Two
Concerning the watch method: is any correction required for standard time vs. daylight savings time?
i've heard that you should stick with the standard time hour position even during daylight savings
This is such a great video
Wait...didn’t the compass on the watch band point a complete different direction. Hmmmmmmmmm
But it’s still confusing
Great video... thanks!
A marathon? I see you are a man of class 😉
I really like the stick method. Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Brings me back to my Boyscout days. Campouts were the best!