The Beatles were always ahead of everyone else. They started the big stadium shows, “stadium rock” as it were and then everybody followed along. Now at the end Paul had the idea of going back to doing the small club circuit. The 70s bands did just this, a lot of them Led Zeppelin, Queen, were doing “back to the clubs” tours. Come to find out the Beatles had the idea first.
Q@@jk4675 probably a surprise appearance here and there.... When Wings first started in their infancy they went to colleges and asked if they could play
No matter what band or musicians I love and respect, The Beatles are always at the very top. John and Paul (and Ringo and George!) had absolutely magical chemistry.
After this, Paul goes to Scotland and makes his own solo album, releases it, then gets accused of breaking up the Beats, when in fact it was Lennon who decided first.
I think they would start doing it incognito. People would show up just to see a house band and then only realize that it was the Beatles. Of course, the place would be flooded within a couple hours if not sooner after everybody called their friends and family.
@@billysequins while you're right, it's also worth noting that Klein and McCartney told him not to say anything because the exchange in my original comment is just moments before they signed that contract. However, when Lennon said "I already told Klein", he's referring to a day in between the day he returned from Toronto, Canada and the day they were to sign the Capitol contract.
And Klein told Lennon to get Paul back into the band, because he didn't want to have "Two Gurus in Black" as his portfolio - he wanted the doe-eyed songster to make him the cash. Paul was smart to get away, stay away.
Think of the great Beatles recordings we would have gotten if they started playing smaller venues and doing live albums like the rooftop? (Like Wings).
None of this really matters. The fact is they separated and all had great solo careers. Paul and Ringo still do and both are in their 80's. Look at the Stones. They have had a ton of hits but don't really make any new hit records. They thrive on what they have done. So do Paul and Ringo. You would think they would bring something new to the table but I guess they are satisfied with what they all have done.
They all got very rich, got everything they ever wanted and the angst of being poor, young, in love, homeless and hungry evaporated. It has happened to all successful singer songwriters. Nothing left to sing about.
Paul just had a concert in Argentina in October 2024. The majority of the audience was like under the age of 30. They knew all the words to the songs ( old Beatles & newer Paul's), and they were Spanish speakers. Yes, his voice wasn't great. But he put on a very good and professional show. The audience loved him, and Macca couldn't get enough of the adoration. I'm so happy there's a whole new generation of Beatle lovers!!❤❤❤❤ Paul, Ringo, & Mick Jagger aren't doing it for the money. They can't stop. They can't just sit at home and not perform. They are workaholics. As long as there's an audience, they'll show up.
And, by the way, in the Get Back Documentary, at one point, George happened to mention to John that he had a lot of his own songs that could fill a solo album. He said he might do a solo album. John looked pretty shocked at this announcement. George had already quit the band once...
Yeah. Paul was the adult of the band and the one who still cared about it. The others were like stroppy teenagers. The bitterness that pours out of George in every interview is really sad. He was a Beatle, adored by millions but it wasn't enough. John wasn't much better. It's nice to see Paul's image rehabilitated by Jackson's series. He was hated for decades!
@@peelben he's still hated today. The Get Back series didn't really change anything. It only proves that the hate was always malicious and unjustified. But I'll argue people saw the documentary and "interpreted" what they saw to fit their narrative.
@AkiraFelix-k2l Nah. I watch a lot of Beatles related stuff on here and get into plenty of Beatles conversations. I have noticed a big shift in opinions regarding Lennon Vs McCartney. I'm sure plenty of people still dislike Paul but it used to be practically universal.
The reason so many bands are still together or have gotten back together in the current era is purely because there is no longer any money in selling records. Touring is now a bands primary source of income due to digital streaming, so they have no choice but to remain intact as a group and hit the road. I guarantee that if this business model was prevalent while the Beatles were all still alive, they would have gotten back together and went out and toured. They would likely have been the most successful touring band to have ever existed. As it happened, there was more money in making records back then, and they thought solo careers were the way to go, or at least about the same as far as money goes, with the added benefit of not having to compromise or put up with the other members.
It's too bad John didn't listen to Paul that one last time...rumor is that John WAS considering a possible Beatles' reunion at the time of his death....😢❤😊
They would have had to do it with littlle advance notice at each club, otherwise there would have been 200 people in the club and 5000 outside in the streets.
Yoko revealed in the last few years that John had a desire, around fall of 1980, to do a new Beatles project - a reunion if you want to call it that - but we know what tragically happened to prevent it.
Paul is all about 'I , ME, MINE' it's paul's ego that harmed the Band A GROUP IS A GROUP hope everyone is happy when paul gets those back up bands where he gets to tell everyone what to do those were paul and his orchestra NOT THE BAND a band is a collaborative group The Beatles was a collaborative group of brilliant musicians paul could have followed JOHN's suggestion and given each He paul and George 5 songs per LP with Ringo getting 1 or 2 himself. George's songs were on par with JOHN and PAUL by then and we didn't need paul's silly songs when George offered them masterpieces. John told Paul to release those as Paul solo works and give the Beatles only the best of JOHN PAUL GEORGE and RINGO leaving the silly fluffy paul songs for wings.
Ironically when John left the Beatles, that was exactly what he did... but with other musicians. Plastic Ono Band....Elephant's Memory....etc...Wrote songs with Elton John and David Bowie. Why not with Paul?
Paul does not realize that they were the ultimate studio band. It would have been nice to see them live in the late 60s but I don’t think they could have competed as a “rock and roll” band with groups like the stones or Led Zeppelin. They always considered themselves “rock and rollers” due to their roots but I don’t think they could match the stones or zeppelin. Those two groups could not match the Beatles in their overall contributions to music, but they were superior live rock and roll bands. The “mick Taylor” era stones and zeppelin were unbeatable in arena rock era.
Yep, he could change the history/narrative and people will believe him because he's the only one Beatle speaking for it (John and George are dead) and Ringo's not talking anything about the Beatles.
John said he was leaving and Paul told him to hold off for a awhile. Then Paul announced he was leaving. PAUL already had a series of songs for his first album.
hold off for a while as in don’t tell the press, not “stay in the band.” it was a sinking ship, though i would say it was crummy for him to release it the day he told the press he was leaving.
Everyone blaming John for breaking up the Beatles is just flat wrong. John, George, and Ringo had all left the group at one time of another since the White Album sessions, only to be coaxed back by Paul. John and George had done independent projects but stayed in the band. It was PAUL who made the big deal with his first solo album, and it was PAUL who sued the other Beatles when Allen Klein came into the picture. You all just blindly go along with what Paul says because he's alive and John's not here to tell his side of the story.
Paul left after John said he was leaving. John told him fine. Then Klein had a freak out because for all the "Pure Artist" John Lennon was, he wanted the cash Paul could make. So Paul had already washed his hands of the whole thing, it's over, and suddenly they tried to force him back into the band to make money for Allen Klein. Paul said no, then sued. They even tried to trick Paul into rehearsing, because then he would be obligated to Klein, signed or not. Klein was the problem here. Not Paul.
Paul can revise the Beatles history, because it's only him who could speak about the band, John and George are both dead (by this time this interview was set, John was dead already), Ringo is just quiet, so Paul's the only left one to spread Beatle facts and seems he has that opportunity, he's been revising the history of the Beatles to favor with him, even now in 82 years old, he's still telling such stories, even claiming credits on some Beatles songs that John had clearly written the majority of lyrics. Stop it now, Paul, move on and don't change the history, books, articles and archives and the interviews of John and George will never lie.
@@danielpaz Go watch some interviews of him, and compare it to the archives, articles and interviews of John and George, there's a discrepancy. Would you believe his credit claims on the Beatles' songs? Even to some of the songs that John had written and saying the majority of the lyrics was written by Paul himself, and even the inspiration? He could say who broke the Beatles, but guarantee you that he will save himself from it and put the blame on others (John, who else?) To clean his name (it's not that it's entirely his fault, but if you've watched the past documentaries, the lawsuits and the letters John had written him and George's opinions, Paul sure played a role, at least in the band's break up), it's like that I don't believe him entirely, but when it comes to the matters like this: Who wrote some of the Beatles' songs and the inspiration behind those, and the break up, his words need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
@@danielpaz Answer my question, do you believe his claims about some of The Beatles' songs (even in the earlier ones)? Do you believe that he wrote the majority of lyrics and John only wrote few? Tell me. Because I've read Beatles' books and anything about their histories, John even told the inspirations behind such songs. Again, it's not that I don't believe Paul entirely, but in the case of the history of those songs and the break up, it's always taking names, you know? Especially the latter, it's always going to be a blame game.
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The Beatles were always ahead of everyone else. They started the big stadium shows, “stadium rock” as it were and then everybody followed along. Now at the end Paul had the idea of going back to doing the small club circuit. The 70s bands did just this, a lot of them Led Zeppelin, Queen, were doing “back to the clubs” tours. Come to find out the Beatles had the idea first.
That WAS a great idea.
Too bad it never happened. ❤
I disagree… biggest band in the world playing little clubs again ???
Q@@jk4675 probably a surprise appearance here and there.... When Wings first started in their infancy they went to colleges and asked if they could play
I'm thankful that Paul, Ringo and George brought insights into the band's dynamics through their comments.
No matter what band or musicians I love and respect, The Beatles are always at the very top. John and Paul (and Ringo and George!) had absolutely magical chemistry.
❤ ABSOLUTELY 💯🤗😊
After this, Paul goes to Scotland and makes his own solo album, releases it, then gets accused of breaking up the Beats, when in fact it was Lennon who decided first.
They could never go back to small clubs. It’d be pandemonium. But I love his love for the band.
I think they would start doing it incognito.
People would show up just to see a house band and then only realize that it was the Beatles. Of course, the place would be flooded within a couple hours if not sooner after everybody called their friends and family.
Any collaborative creative project is difficult to maintain for an extended period of time. Because people change, especially artists.
Lennon's exact words according to himself were "Are you daft? It's over. I'm leaving the band. I already told Klein."
Well, it was John's band after all if you were to look at it in that preserve.
@@BeatlebabyBug-py4bsNo. It was their band also.
And Klein to John to keep his gob shut as he had just negotiated a lucrative royalty increase with Capitol records in the US
@@billysequins while you're right, it's also worth noting that Klein and McCartney told him not to say anything because the exchange in my original comment is just moments before they signed that contract. However, when Lennon said "I already told Klein", he's referring to a day in between the day he returned from Toronto, Canada and the day they were to sign the Capitol contract.
And Klein told Lennon to get Paul back into the band, because he didn't want to have "Two Gurus in Black" as his portfolio - he wanted the doe-eyed songster to make him the cash. Paul was smart to get away, stay away.
Good for you, Paul, you did the right thing.
Think of the great Beatles recordings we would have gotten if they started playing smaller venues and doing live albums like the rooftop? (Like Wings).
None of this really matters. The fact is they separated and all had great solo careers. Paul and Ringo still do and both are in their 80's. Look at the Stones. They have had a ton of hits but don't really make any new hit records. They thrive on what they have done. So do Paul and Ringo. You would think they would bring something new to the table but I guess they are satisfied with what they all have done.
They all got very rich, got everything they ever wanted and the angst of being poor, young, in love, homeless and hungry evaporated. It has happened to all successful singer songwriters. Nothing left to sing about.
Paul just had a concert in Argentina in October 2024. The majority of the audience was like under the age of 30. They knew all the words to the songs ( old Beatles & newer Paul's), and they were Spanish speakers.
Yes, his voice wasn't great. But he put on a very good and professional show. The audience loved him, and Macca couldn't get enough of the adoration.
I'm so happy there's a whole new generation of Beatle lovers!!❤❤❤❤
Paul, Ringo, & Mick Jagger aren't doing it for the money. They can't stop. They can't just sit at home and not perform. They are workaholics. As long as there's an audience, they'll show up.
And, by the way, in the Get Back Documentary, at one point, George happened to mention to John that he had a lot of his own songs that could fill a solo album. He said he might do a solo album. John looked pretty shocked at this announcement.
George had already quit the band once...
Each of The Beatles including Ringo or tremendous talents, it's just unnaturally sad they resented the maestro,😢
Yeah. Paul was the adult of the band and the one who still cared about it. The others were like stroppy teenagers. The bitterness that pours out of George in every interview is really sad. He was a Beatle, adored by millions but it wasn't enough. John wasn't much better. It's nice to see Paul's image rehabilitated by Jackson's series. He was hated for decades!
@@peelben he's still hated today. The Get Back series didn't really change anything. It only proves that the hate was always malicious and unjustified. But I'll argue people saw the documentary and "interpreted" what they saw to fit their narrative.
@AkiraFelix-k2l Nah. I watch a lot of Beatles related stuff on here and get into plenty of Beatles conversations. I have noticed a big shift in opinions regarding Lennon Vs McCartney. I'm sure plenty of people still dislike Paul but it used to be practically universal.
Would have been nice to see the Beatles in small clubs. But to have Yoko there to scream like she did then would ruined everything.
John looked at Paul and said "We are never ever getting back together."
..a Great BIG band
The reason so many bands are still together or have gotten back together in the current era is purely because there is no longer any money in selling records. Touring is now a bands primary source of income due to digital streaming, so they have no choice but to remain intact as a group and hit the road. I guarantee that if this business model was prevalent while the Beatles were all still alive, they would have gotten back together and went out and toured. They would likely have been the most successful touring band to have ever existed. As it happened, there was more money in making records back then, and they thought solo careers were the way to go, or at least about the same as far as money goes, with the added benefit of not having to compromise or put up with the other members.
"What a pity?" 😢
It's too bad John didn't listen to Paul that one last time...rumor is that John WAS considering a possible Beatles' reunion at the time of his death....😢❤😊
It's best they broke up whilst still at the height of their creativity. It will sustain their legend for generations to come.
Stay at the top I say …they could should have … but life took them elsewhere . And they all did good because they were all individually talented ❤
Paul just casually flipping the bird in near the end
Breaking up is hard to do.
100% !
The sad part is this really might have reinvigorated the band and brought back to them the reason they worked so good together in the first place.
They would have had to do it with littlle advance notice at each club, otherwise there would have been 200 people in the club and 5000 outside in the streets.
"Harsh!" 😢
So human, and thats how it goes. Funny that 54 years on we are still dealing with it :D :D :D
Yoko revealed in the last few years that John had a desire, around fall of 1980, to do a new Beatles project - a reunion if you want to call it that - but we know what tragically happened to prevent it.
😢😢😢
Yep Do Something
John might still be here if they did
Damn, if only...
Paul is all about 'I , ME, MINE' it's paul's ego that harmed the Band A GROUP IS A GROUP hope everyone is happy when paul gets those back up bands where he gets to tell everyone what to do those were paul and his orchestra NOT THE BAND a band is a collaborative group The Beatles was a collaborative group of brilliant musicians paul could have followed JOHN's suggestion and given each He paul and George 5 songs per LP with Ringo getting 1 or 2 himself. George's songs were on par with JOHN and PAUL by then and we didn't need paul's silly songs when George offered them masterpieces. John told Paul to release those as Paul solo works and give the Beatles only the best of JOHN PAUL GEORGE and RINGO leaving the silly fluffy paul songs for wings.
Every great idea in this world is unsustainable because this world is not made for great ideas
Ironically when John left the Beatles, that was exactly what he did... but with other musicians. Plastic Ono Band....Elephant's Memory....etc...Wrote songs with Elton John and David Bowie. Why not with Paul?
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Paul does not realize that they were the ultimate studio band. It would have been nice to see them live in the late 60s but I don’t think they could have competed as a “rock and roll” band with groups like the stones or Led Zeppelin. They always considered themselves “rock and rollers” due to their roots but I don’t think they could match the stones or zeppelin. Those two groups could not match the Beatles in their overall contributions to music, but they were superior live rock and roll bands. The “mick Taylor” era stones and zeppelin were unbeatable in arena rock era.
Interesting to me how Paul uses his middle finger in relaying that story.
Shame, John felt that way, I guess he grew tired of being in a group
there is something about him i don't trust
Yep, he could change the history/narrative and people will believe him because he's the only one Beatle speaking for it (John and George are dead) and Ringo's not talking anything about the Beatles.
John said he was leaving and Paul told him to hold off for a awhile. Then Paul announced he was leaving.
PAUL already had a series of songs for his first album.
Blödsinn.
hold off for a while as in don’t tell the press, not “stay in the band.” it was a sinking ship, though i would say it was crummy for him to release it the day he told the press he was leaving.
Klein told John not to communicate it until securing a juicy deal with a new record label, not Paul.
Months and months later - John's justification went something like "I never said I was leaving the Beatles...when I made all those solo albums!"
Paul never mentions that in the last Beatle years John had become a heroin addict. I think that probably had a lot to do with the split up.
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Everyone blaming John for breaking up the Beatles is just flat wrong. John, George, and Ringo had all left the group at one time of another since the White Album sessions, only to be coaxed back by Paul. John and George had done independent projects but stayed in the band. It was PAUL who made the big deal with his first solo album, and it was PAUL who sued the other Beatles when Allen Klein came into the picture. You all just blindly go along with what Paul says because he's alive and John's not here to tell his side of the story.
My thoughts exactly!
Paul left after John said he was leaving. John told him fine. Then Klein had a freak out because for all the "Pure Artist" John Lennon was, he wanted the cash Paul could make. So Paul had already washed his hands of the whole thing, it's over, and suddenly they tried to force him back into the band to make money for Allen Klein. Paul said no, then sued. They even tried to trick Paul into rehearsing, because then he would be obligated to Klein, signed or not. Klein was the problem here. Not Paul.
"Sounds like a painful memory?" 😢 "to me?" 🤔
Yes this is upsetting for Paul , no doubt
Paul can revise the Beatles history, because it's only him who could speak about the band, John and George are both dead (by this time this interview was set, John was dead already), Ringo is just quiet, so Paul's the only left one to spread Beatle facts and seems he has that opportunity, he's been revising the history of the Beatles to favor with him, even now in 82 years old, he's still telling such stories, even claiming credits on some Beatles songs that John had clearly written the majority of lyrics.
Stop it now, Paul, move on and don't change the history, books, articles and archives and the interviews of John and George will never lie.
Of course you know more of Beatles history than Paul...
@@danielpaz Go watch some interviews of him, and compare it to the archives, articles and interviews of John and George, there's a discrepancy. Would you believe his credit claims on the Beatles' songs? Even to some of the songs that John had written and saying the majority of the lyrics was written by Paul himself, and even the inspiration? He could say who broke the Beatles, but guarantee you that he will save himself from it and put the blame on others (John, who else?) To clean his name (it's not that it's entirely his fault, but if you've watched the past documentaries, the lawsuits and the letters John had written him and George's opinions, Paul sure played a role, at least in the band's break up), it's like that I don't believe him entirely, but when it comes to the matters like this: Who wrote some of the Beatles' songs and the inspiration behind those, and the break up, his words need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
In the early solo John took charge of the narrative then repudiated everything
@@RemoteOrchid So, we must interview you instead of the last remnants of the Beatles...
@@danielpaz Answer my question, do you believe his claims about some of The Beatles' songs (even in the earlier ones)? Do you believe that he wrote the majority of lyrics and John only wrote few? Tell me.
Because I've read Beatles' books and anything about their histories, John even told the inspirations behind such songs.
Again, it's not that I don't believe Paul entirely, but in the case of the history of those songs and the break up, it's always taking names, you know? Especially the latter, it's always going to be a blame game.
His glass-eye can be seen here
What a hipster.
Not that great of a band, musically.
Paul is and always has been so brilliant. So sad john was so stubborn.
i think both of them were stubborn in their own ways. the times they decided to love each other and be brilliant together were the best of the best.