Koreans React To 'The Best Villains' in Superhero Films
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Joker: * Struggles to blow up hospital *
Americans: "What a Demented Fiend!"
Korean Girls: "Awwwww SO CUUUUTE!!!"
As an American, I always found that scene funny and cute. I could never stay mad at Joker. The most he'd get from me is that he's mentally ill. I could never insult him 😭
Solar Wings the joker is so hard to hate. he has an understandable background story, he's obviously mentally ill, and all his actions are so cute somehow 😭
I mean, Korean girls ARE crazy with their kpop bands, that's probably nothing compared what kpop fans do to have a crumb of atom touched by their favorite artist
Bort irrelevant
One funny fact: The part where he turns around, waves his arms, and start pressing the button is actually just a big blooper. Things were supposed to start exploding while he was just walking away from there, but for some reason there was a delay. Needless to say, they kept that part anyway.
Loki: ... Stabs man in the back (killing him).
Koreans: _"Oh, he's such a rascal!"_
"i cant hate him" LOL
The girl who said it already mentioned that she watched every marvel movie. So I guess she knows Phil survived.
the way everyone is whipped for Loki- *i love it*
IKR
Is hongjoong your bias? he's mine
We love a hongjoong bias stan.
same.
as they should be ❤
Who would’ve thought that Heath Ledger, known for his pretty boy looks rather than his acting, could play such an outstanding Joker. Christian Bale was a great Batman, but people will always remember this particular Batman series because of Heath Ledger’s Joker. No one could ever top his Joker. Jokers after Heath Ledger will always be compared to his and audiences will always end up disappointed.
I will say that Joaquin Phoenix has become a close second for me.
I honestly would have loved to see the Harley Quinn of this universe. Like, no only would she be beautiful, but she would have to be just as calculating and ruthless as the Heath Ledger's Joker.
@@rachellara544 that would be a must-see
I wouldn’t say everyone was
disappointed. He played a good joker and so did Joaquin Phoenix. Loved him. Both Heath Ledger and Joaquin gave outstanding performances.
Clout Elfin Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker completely flew over my head. I forgot about him. I haven’t been watching films in the past few years, but I did hear about how great his Joker was.
Magneto is lowkey underrated. Michael is 43 yet he still looks 🔥
Yeah, he's like my third dad. First is my actual dad, second's Ewan McGregor, third is Michael Fassbender.
Not in a gay way (it ain't gay if I say no homo), just they're dad material.
How the hell is something _"lowkey"_ underrated?
@@eletricalplugandoutlet1540 when something is unappreciated by majority of the public :)
chantal thats what you call underrated. there is no low key underrated my friend
OMG YESSS
Ever time I see joker I'm impressed again and again
also the fact he "wore" a nurse disguise. tells of the confidence the joker has in his plan. that wearing a nurse outfit is a must if you are villain planning on destroying a hospital.
Let’s not forget! Yes Loki is a trickster god, but he is also the God of chaos. He brought about Ragnarok, the end of the world in mythology 🤣
He also gave birth to an 8-legged horse....while he was also a horse. He indirectly caused Baldur to die (who everyone loved), which then made the gods hate him. They eventually captured him and turned his 2 sons into wolves. One son killed the other, and the surviving one....you know what, that's a story for another time. It's super gross and really barbaric. Loki caused a lot of strife in mythology, but the gods were cruel to him too by involving his kids.
@ERA CASTE Fenrir was one of the monster kids from his Giantess wife. But he had 2 sons with a mortal woman (I think she was mortal, but she was different from the Giantess) had a rather tragic fate, other than being killed in the battle of Ragnarok.
Loki also has Hel as a daughter and that serpent (begins with a J, I just can’t spell it). I love how everyone thinks “Aw shucks that Loki! He’s just a rascal” when he is practically the Norse version of the Devil. Lol
@@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716 The serpent's name is Jormungandr! He was in God of War!
True, it's his job. Unlike the Judeo-Christian Lucifer, Loki is not disliked because of who he is as a God and what he can do but because he can be an asshole as a person. I guess that comes with the territory of being the trickster...
IN CONCLUSION
“Loki will always be that Villain that everyone loves”
Nope
Joker is... Who doesn't like the piece of art that unbeatable of act.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Loki isn't even close to heath ledger's joker. They aren't even is the same league, there are multiple leagues between their leagues. Bleh
- As on 2nd Oct '20
He was never a villain. He was misunderstood
Anti-hero
@@cybersecurity1774 the OP wasn't even comparing loki and heath ledger's joker ???? lol
oh my god loki being called a rascal and a naughty boy has me dying
He's just hitting puberty..
FYI Two-face makes decisions - big or small - by the flip of his coin (which has 2 sides or faces much like his injury). For example when the coin decided the fate of the driver, he allowed the car to crash instead of flipping the coin again. Because he doesn't have a conscience (anymore) and lets the coin decide, his actions can be extreme and unpredictable.
Hmmm what should I have for breakfast?
@@l0sts0ul89 the movie also pushes the idea that Dent can force a result from the coin flip earlier in the movie. It could be said that he is using chance as an excuse to commit horrible acts, but is willing to force the outcome of the flip to choose the one he desires most. So he could force a bacon and eggs decision instead of a kale shake and blame chance instead of his internal hunger for bacon and eggs!
@@davidburton9690
Lol nice
@@davidburton9690 His coin is rigged, that's why
@@TheMorSkull01 then it is still rigged as two-face. he is not an agent of chaos or randomness, just evil
Joker blows up an hospital full of innocent people - korean girl " So cute!"
Nah, the whole hospital was evacuated. He just kidnapped innocent people on that bus.
Just a mythbuster, albeit fun fact altogether:
That widely known improv by Ledger was actually not improv at all; they came up with that pause so they could get the practical shot they wanted, AND keep Ledger safe while doing so. Christopher Nolan says so himself in an interview. Remember, they only had one shot at that because it was all practical, so it had to be perfect and required major forward thinking.
Again, not as wacky as brilliant improv, but still a fun fact because it was still great acting and a careful consideration by the production team.
To add to that, the first set of explosions, before the pause, were "cosmetic" only. The second set were actual demolition charges.
It was a mistake though. The second set of explosives were supposed to go off as soon as he pushed the button the first time but they didn't. That's why he was kind of confused for a sec before they really did go off.
@@CB-vg8pv No, this is a myth.
Saying that Loki is "Cute" and you can't hate him just after he stabbed Coulson in the heart... :(
"What a rascal"
IKR😔
@@not_ian5543 It means mischievous person
@@God-xw1nu he's still human tho Just because he's a god. I love coulson but it's like, he's not that important for the rest of the MCU "MOVIES".
nah, he still revived lol, even so I don't hate loki, it makes me want him more LOOL
Hulk smashing evil Loki into the ground:
Them: ItT'sS CuUte
Killmonger is one of the best villians. He had his whole plan to destroy wakanda since he was a kid. And his reason actually makes sense, he suffered the most.
It wasnt a plan he had as a kid, it’s one he developed over time in the country he’s actually from. Wakandans strive for peace, but America literally gave Eric Kilmonger his name and made him a killer.
Lol killmonger is just standard like every villains, getting revenge from his past childhood. Joker in the dark knight is the best villain, his character is just pure chaos!
Killmonger is a good villain but he is not remotely on the level of Joker, Thanos, Magneto, Two-Face etc.
@@jeffwilliams2828 nah he planned it when he found out about his dad
@@dorkknight0790 obv the joker is the best villian
React to saddest Pixar moments!!
I'd be in tears the whole time
Bing Bong: "Take her to the moon for me."
Bing Bong: **gets Thanos snapped**
Mara_ Q but their reactions would be adorable lol
barbaro267 half the population for him to disappear is a fair trade 😬
When Andy gives his toys up 😭
I feel like They should’ve added Kilmonger From Black Panther.
Way overrated. I went into that film after hearing the hype and it was just a good movie, not great. Killmonger was one of the weakest parts for me. Good motivations, solid acting, but his plot was to just deliver weapons to the world and start world wars. That's so shallow and pointless. It was a terrible primary villain plot.
I honestly forget he exists a lot
Judg3m3nt well ur a movie expert
@@trashtalker-oz8vo Yes, if you praise a movie you are ok but if you critique it you are an asshole that should be mocked. I see now.
@@Judg3m3nt I thought Killmonger was great, second only to Thanos and maybe Loki ( who has multiple movies). Killmonger was honestly the strongest part of that movie. Rarely do you see a villain force the hero to change his ideology. And for the better. He forced an entire nation to rethink their national policies and learn to embrace the rest of the world. If that's all you got from him, you weren't paying attention. Nothing about the character was shallow.
You know a movie is good when they use two villains from the same film
I love them all! I dont see Loki as villain tho. Joker - I watch dark knight b/w my fingers cuz I was scared. Thanos is poetic like Ultron. Two-face ain't easy on the eyes. And my boo Magneto- Always rooted for him 😂😂
Yeah tbh loki is a god and really misunderstood he was always the second option. Joker is SO good omg.
The Joker explosion scene was a mistake. It was supposed to blow up as he was walking out. He turned around legitimately confused that it didn't and was actually caught off guard by the delay.
They just kept it in because they liked the way it looked.
Was expecting Venom and his famous line "eyes, lungs, pancreas"
"So many snacks so little time." I was hoping for it but no.
That sounds like a remix of nails, heels hair or whatever that song is called
I see him as an anti-hero
@@aryadiorenzopasaribu6213 no theyre talking abt todrick hall's song
Venom isn't a villain in his solo movie
Make a Part 2!!
Killmonger, Bane, The Green Goblin(Tobey Maguire spiderman), Royal Pain(Sky High)...lol, The Penguin (Batman Returns), Mr. Glass (Unbreakable)
Killmonger was just kinda dumb.
@@l0sts0ul89 Your opinion....
is dumb
@@LJ_S1K
No u
@@l0sts0ul89 Lol
And maybe Emma Frost for a girl villian or Hela
i love how no one can resist Loki bahahah
From everyone reaction to Loki he could have just taken over Korea they’d be happy to serve him and call him cute
Bro my mum was so scared of the Joker in Dark Knight- she was hiding behind her fingers whenever he was on screen 😂 Heath Ledger was truly amazing, may he Rest In Peace.
Magneto's backstory should have been explained
He's so underrated
Fun Fact: The reaction to the explosion was improvised by Heath Ledger because the explosion was delayed. Instead of stopping and re filming the scene, he stood in his role and improvised.
Hela from Thor: Ragnorak should've also been on this list. Maybe she can be on the next one.
I hope so
She's fun and badass to watch on-screen, but her motivations are uncomplicated and she's not super interesting outside of being the first major *female* villain in the MCU. If anything, I'm really disappointed they didn't include Killmonger. His ideology was so strong and his character so relatable and complex to so many people that he actually had people walking out of the theater going, "You know what? Killmonger was right all along." Michael B. Jordan's acting was on point too.
Them: *Loving Loki*
Me:so When will they watch beginning of infinity war 😬
I love Loki and watching that part made me cry so much
They gonna shock when they watch it..
@@the_person_in_the_photo me too dude
When it comes to playing the villian nobody literally nobody could beat Heath Ledger (The Joker) in the Dark Knight. As the role he played was splendid and a master piece.
The role which he pay with his life.
Bane is underrated smh, my favorite villain of all time.
That was an actual hospital that Joker blew up. It was decommissioned and was scheduled to be demolished anyway, so the production team was able to procure it for that scene.
Why is killmonger not here. That guy was so good at being a villian
I would LOVE to see Koreans react to The Lord of the Rings, specifically short clips of Gollum (one of the best movie characters of all time), ringwraiths (super freaky), and Gandalf facing off with the Balrog (iconic moment!).
I'd throw in the Rohirrim mustering at Pellenor Fields and Shelob.
@@robstefani9853 YESSSS. Is that the one with Aragorn's iconic speech? And I'm not sure about Shelob because she's freaking scary lol
@@barbaro267
No that's the battle at the Black Gates, which I'm embarrassed to say I didn't think of it first.
@@robstefani9853 I like a lot of Rohirrim scenes, so I'd be happy with any of those being added!
Fun fact 4:44 the bomb was supposed to go off but it didn't so that was why he looked back as it was a mistake and he had to improvise.
I laughed my ass off when the two girls said ''Imagine your wearing braces" after seeing magneto's powers lol.
It’s like they always say, a hero is only as great as their villain.
In Viking Mythology, you know Loki, god of deception, magic, lies, evil, chaos... is the blood brother of Odin(father of Thor, Baldr, Heimdallr, Hoðr, Hermoðr, Týr, Viðarr, Váli and Bragi)
4:47 He improved this part of the scene due to a misfire in the string of explosions. When it finally triggered it actually scared him and he jumped into the back of the bus LOL
4:30 Interesting fact about this scene. There was an actual delay of the explosion and Heath Ledger noticed it. So he stayed in Character, improvised and started to act “What the heck” throw his arms up, and kept pressing his dummy detonator. Christopher Nolan and the producers loved it.
Untrue. The whole thing is in the script.
@2:59 he can pull the iron out of your body or form a bullet he moves inside you lol He can kill almost anyone if he wanted even in the comics he is Omega
My personal favorite was Magneto. He had reasons for doing what he did. He was deeply scarred and never really got over it. Ian Mckellan had a great line, "No needle will ever touch my skin again." while showing his tattoo from Auschwitz. He wanted to protect his people, but had a militant way of doing it. His relationship with Xavier was the flip side to his outlook. But, then again, I'm highly biased as I've been an X fan since the early '80's.
you should react to marvel fight scenes..
They should react to the Batman vs Superman warehouse fight scene. Much better than any Marvel fight.
@@willmorrell488 Maybe the Daredevil hallway fight comes close
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I was more referring to the MCU but some of the Daredevil fights are definitely up there with the best.
Joe Swanson Cap vs Winter Soldier is the best hand to hand fight scene imo. Also delivers in weight and emotions.
I think I heard somewhere that Tom was not told when the cord was supposed to pull him for the Hulk smash scene. So he just had to say his lines without knowing when he was gonna be pulled
Thanos lost because of plot if he really wanted he would have killed everyone on earth without breaking any sweat.
True but instead of killing half or the population why didn't he just make more resources
@@micgi8918 He offered solution to the climate and population etc problems of his home planet. But the ruling people instead of implementing it took their time to how much it cost and how they profited from it delaying implementation. So Thanos decided it is better to remove half the population, not only solve their planet problem but also force it population to come together to survive and build I instead of bickering.
@@TakNuke then make infinite resources btw this is a joke i get what you mean because thanos is a character based on opinion some people say he's bad some say good
@@micgi8918 With infinity gauntlet he might but his experience with the behaviour of living beings make him apprehensive. Suppose he makes the resources but instead of peacefully utilizing it people will compete to hoard more of them. So the whole point of coming together to save planet becomes moot. For example with infinite oil to solve oil crisis will governments and companies will make effort more greener alternatives to oil no because their is no incentive. This will result with not have to worry about having more efficient internal combustion engine as their is no need to make them so people are okay with gas guzzler resulting in more emission and global warming.
Everyone’s talking about a few underrated villains when I haven’t seen Zemo being mentioned from CACW. The way he carried out his plans was very different from the other marvel villains out there considering he basically ruined the Avengers team mentally by making them turn against each other knowing that he couldn’t defeat them physically. He made the heroes fight themselves which was the most genius way to destroy them considering their past antagonists. Too bad he didn’t get much screen time cuz of his plans on working behind the scenes despite it working the best.
Thanos has got so much popularity that today someone can be unaware of superman but he knows Thanos, i am talking about whole world. Good for someone who is not even a hero but a villain. kudos Marvel
The explosion of the hospital is retouched, yes the explosion is real but not the glass who breal, look carefully the glass who shatter, you will see they disapear. It was had but ccomputer ^^
Those were hood villains, but they forgot about Eric Kilmonger
Come to realise Marvell is all about the heroes and DC is all about the villains.
Marvell movies get 'disneyfied' so they really have a hard time making dark characters, and even thinking back carnage is the only guy in my admittedly small knowledge base that has a chance of reaching the levels of darkness the DC guys have and you know' even if they did put him in he would be toned down.
DC seems a lot more open to interpretation with what they can do with the bad guys...not always a good thing since it can cheese up the canon but that freedom also allows gems like the dark knight to be made as well.
Have them react to avatar: the last airbender
Koreans: *React to villains in superhero movies*
Everyone else: Please make a part two!!
Me: *A simp for Loki*
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My favourite villain of all is the Joker, the reason for this is i can relate alot to him, coming from a poor family, being picked on and trying to find his way in society.
The Joker has always been my fav villian of all time
Lol I don't relate. But acting is awe-inspiring. Its breathing every single time.
@@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi every people don't have the same life. So someone who has no one, will understand it more
This says best comic book villains but most of these are shitty marvel villains.
In "The Winter Soldier" there's a villain who isn't just an evil man; he has a story behind him, and there's more to him than what we think at first. Plus the hero is the greatest hero of all time.
In the "Lord of the Rings" movies, the Witch-king is an interesting villain. He's human falls victim to his own greed for power, and becomes more than human, but at the same time less than human. He becomes enslaved by the power he was greedy for.
2:48 ...somebody show her the scene from First Class
you forgot miss Harley quinn 😔
They should have added Hela from Thor Ragnarok...she is actually stronger than she looks and she is a very interesting and badass villain.
agree
Yeah in comic book but in movies she is meh. These guys here are some of the iconic characters.
im glad on not being the only one who thinks Joker is a little bit sexy, maybe is beacuse Heath was such a beauty
For me, the best villains are ones you never see coming.
Best Marvel Villians:
Loki: AWESOME...
Thanos: AMAZING...
Killmonger: WTF!!!!
Heath Ledger committed suicide because of that joker role. He got so into the role of the Joker and the dark part of the Joker. Thats what I heard and read. Heath Ledger was an incredible actor.
When Joker blows up the hospital, there was a delay with the explosives, so the surprise Heath Ledger showed was real. He was Actually fiddling with the controller whan it finally went off, which makes this scene better than they originally hoped.
Heath ledger is THE joker, we will NEVER have another actor play the joker as well as him
I suggets that they react to some of the slasher móviles from the 80's and 90's. I can just imagine how would they react to some of the most iconic horror villains
You know an actor is good when the villain upstages the title character. I've seen all the Jokers including Cesar Romero back in the day and Heath Ledger laid waste to all of them. Really the only one that comes close is the animated Joker voiced by Mark Hamill.
So what I've learned from this is if you wanna commit crimes and get away with it, step 1 is to be attractive. Welp, there go my dreams of villiany :')
I'd love to see them react to the original Universal monsters from the 1930s and 40s. Frankenstein, Dracula, the Wolfman, Mummy and the Creature from the Black Lagoon!
ChaCha about Heath Ledger: His voice is Joker itself.
Mark Hamill: 👀
Phil Coulson: MOVE AWAY PLEASE Girls: *FREEZE UP*
Heroes:
Wolverine (Logan)
Leonidas (300)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (Terminator II)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (Predator 1987
Ellen Ripley (Alien I/II)
Russell Crowe (Gladiator)
Harry Potter (Deathly Hallows)
The Bride (Kill Bill)
Superman
RoboCop (RoboCop 1987)
James Bond
Rocky Balboa (Rocky I/II/III)
Rambo (Rambo 1982)
V (V for Vendetta)
Villains:
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of The Lambs)
The Predator (Predator 1987)
Alient (Alien I/II)
Darth Vader (Star Wars :T.E.S.B. 1980)
Lord Voldemort (Deathly Hallows)
Tony Montana (Scarface 1983)
Hans Landa (Inglourious Basterds)
Freddy Krueger (A Nightmare on Elm Street)
Sauron The Lord of The Rings 2001-2003)
Pinhead (Hellraiser 1987)
Anton Chigurh (No Country For Old Men)
Jack Torrance (The Shining 1980)
Jigsaw Killer (Saw)
They NEED to recognize Professor X’s son, David Haller and include him as THE VILLAIN of ALL villains. He’s the only being that could have stopped Thanos. He’s consumes other people & mutants and steals their powers as a BABY he’s already got over 1k personalities and abilities. He’s so crazy because his personalities keep fighting to control the body, but everyone in a while David is in full control. No matter what, he kicks everyone’s asses. The X-Men are afraid to get near him and he has in him powers to directly stump ALL of their powers...he can go back in time whenever he wishes. Professor X knows a power ofDavid’s is also that he is immortal so he has to keep finding ways to sacrifice a few mutants to distract David in a fight and then put his as sin a coma! When David realizes something is wrong he can work himself out of the coma, but that can sometimes give the other heroes of the world a few years to rebuild before he comes back. David is a truly complex GOOD BAD GUY. Now that Disney owns the rights to X-Men & Fantastic 4 they completed/canceled the 2 TV shows about X-Men so they can properly re-add them to the MCU where they belong. If anyone doesn’t know about David highly recommend looking him up. He’s amazing and terrifying all at once. He looks like a emulate guy but causes such epic chaos and destruction. They needed him out of the way, honestly, for the Avengers films to happen b/c he’d consume Loki, Thor, and the whole lot of them before they even knew something was wrong because he gets in your mind from across the world (like father like son) and gets you where he wants you. Also, watch a well done portrayal of him in the FX TV show, “Legion”, they ended after Disney gained control of the rights.
Legion was SUCH a cool show. I need to rewatch it!
React to Professor X’s son, David Haller from the TV show LEGION! He’s the most powerful mutant in creation and the only one that would’ve been strong enough to fight and beat Thanos in a fight. He absorbs people & mutants and consumes & duplicates the powers of other mutants; he has over 1000 powers, most that he does not realize he has because most of his life he is out of his mind and has a sort of “split personality” disorder.
Hi ! for my opinion you guys have to react turkey horror movie . Like siccin , uc harfliler , etc . l think you will be terrified , they are so scary l swear !!! You are doing great just go ahead !
Joker was always the best of any villian
Joker blows up an entire hospital
Korean Boys: he's crazy he's psychopath
Korean Girls: that one was cute
Thanos is so stupid and Two Face realy? I preferí Zod of Man of Steel and Lex Luthor in BvS
Check out the villains in Sin City, and Leo in Django Unchained. Also the Evil Exes in Scott Pilgrim. Jack Nicholson in The Shining.
OSSC make a video about best iconic Super Heroes.
I am sorry but the best villain has to be Darth Vader. I know he is not shown here, but no list can be complete without him.
Where is Kilimonger from Black Panther !!! He was too good to pass up no cap !!! 😂
Shocking you left out Kilmonger. Oh well maybe next time. Good video though
America is the country of movies that everyone can watch.
진짜 최고 빌런을 안보여주시네요....그린 고블린(Green Goblin)
"puny god"
*Best line ever*
Everyone talking about MCU and DCU villans what about Dark Vadar😈
The Avengers scenes looked so cheesy between the dark knight scenes I laughed. Never watched one but I for some reason I thought they would be different.
i'm disappointed, they didn't show other powerful villians like Darkside of DC universe. everyone knows mcu villians.. c'mon!
and what film would they show that had Darkseid in it???
@@DapoOlasiyan animated film
Have you seen a live action darkseid somewhere with your time machine there Mandela effect.
Andre Jenkins 🤣🤣🤣 pls i Co-ask
rioter games this was showing live action
Only heath ledger not other 👹👹🤙
*Loki kills someone*
That one guy: Aw that little rascal
The hospital be blowing up
Girls- that was cute
I love how even the guys can't hate Loki because he's so cute and attractive, "What a naughty rascal!" 😂😂
I was lucky enough to see Avengers 1 at a theatre in S. Korea. Can confirm the place went wild when Hulk rag dolled Loki.
mj so pretty aaaa
Rest In Power Chadwick Boseman
@ossc I really enjoyed your videos but it would be great if you did a video of wrestling companies like(lucha underground,aew,wwe, Impact wrestling, AAA,roh, mlw,)
I won't even consider Loki as a vaillian , of course the best is Mr.Joker himself , a legend will always be in our hearts .
Marvel villans they were enjoying, DC villans got their attention
I wonder if anyone ever told them that in the movie the Dark Knight when the hospital was blowing up, his reaction and jumping into the bus wasn't acting. The final explosives were supposed to have gone off as soon as he hit the button but they didn't so his confusion was real and the sudden explosion was a surprise to him. Here at 3:30 into this video you can see what I mean:
ruclips.net/video/P4ffVoZ-Dk4/видео.html
This turned out to be a myth. they put a pause in the explosion process because they had only one take. ledger and the production crew all knew about it. someone misinformed made it up and it became a huge trivia thats not true