Having a decoy safe, that's a really good thing to have, I have always had one, and two years ago I had my house broken into, he stole my decoy and pretty much wasn't worried about anything else, the next day on the news, there was a guy that got arrested at Walmart for trying to pay for his things with fake hundred dollars bills, he got 20 years in federal prison for that, all I can say is, karma is great.
@@diracflux I'm not sure about that, but I heard from a friend that, his friends cousins uncle said that one day he accidentally left some dollars in his pocket of his pants and washed them, he was bleaching the pants and when he got them out of the washer, he said that the one dollar bills he had in his pocket, they turned into a blank bill, he said that it would be so easy to print a hundred dollar face on the blank bill. But I don't know, I don't do things like that cause it's against the law.
I am over 70 yrs. old always lived in a safe neighborhood I have never had my home invaded. The chances of someone breaking in to steal anything are very very slim, only my daughters know about my stacking and they know not to mention it and probably never crosses their mind. I will play the odd's of over 70 years with no break in's, I am home 95% of the time me and my friends MR. Smith & Wesson.
Yes people way overestimate break ins and are almost obsessed with this idea people know they have gold and silver and are after it. Unless you live in a bad area or a city, you're probably highly unlikely to ever encounter any danger from burglary. A bolted or well hidden safe and a something that goes pew pew for insurance is all you need. Anyone saying you need anything else or having to go to all these extra lengths are just paranoid.
A secured storage on premises is highly advisable IMHO... depending on the quantity stored... once folks have more than 2-3 thousand ounces it could become a problem, NOT speaking from experience though
Desiccant Horror Story: A year after my dad's death 40 years ago, I opened his stand-alone safe in the basement. He was a coin and stamp collector, not a stacker, and even had columns in both coin and stamp magazines, so had a variety of mint stamps, proof sets, medieval and ancient coins, etc. He had placed a can of desiccant about the size of a PB jar in the safe. It attracted moisture, then overflowed and continued to do so, flooding the safe and rusting out the floor of the safe. Sheets of stamps were stuck together, proof set containers were moldy and all the silver coins were now junk silver. The ancient and medieval coins were fine. I did not inherit my dad's love of coinage (or else I wouldn't have commented here). If somebody breaks into my house they will find motorcycles and tools. I just sought out this video so I could caution folks against making this same mistake. Monitor your storage environment and school your heirs on how to handle your collection.
Same thing happened to my fiancé's dads safe! He hadn't opened it in over 10 years and had those large desiccant jars in it. Ended up rusting up all his guns. It was a sad sight.
Thank you so much for sharing. It's really selfless of you to seek out this video to warn people. I'll remember this story and take your message to heart.
Nobody ever mentions about having a German Shepherd as a first layer, or line, of defense. Once a thief hears a German Shepherd's bark, they might think twice about breaking into your home. German Shepherds are very intelligent, so they are easily taught. And protecting the home and family is a natural thing for a German Shepherd. My German Shepherd is by far, the best friend I will ever have.
@@eliaspadilla876 Why? For speaking the truth? I have a Cane Corso. Weight is 145 pounds. One of the strongest dogs in the world. I'd love for somebody to try to break in
I'm comfortable storing ALL of my gold and silver at home. It is stored in ammo cans which are in a 2000 lbs gun safe. The safe is also bolted to the floor. The ammo cans are air tight and I have an electric dehumidifier in the safe. Every entry point to the house is reinforced. I have motion-activated cameras that upload video to the cloud. Everyone in the house has firearm training.
I'm a retired Police K-9 trainer. I have two German Shepherds as well and the work as a team. Once you are in, you will not be leaving and they both do groin bites! Now that's training.
Thats pretty crazy but smart. Ive been doing some thinking of how to start storing my gold and silver. Mines stored very well in an airtight weather proof box but i want some extra layers of security
What no one seems to think of is that it's not where you keep it prior to SHTF; it's where you keep it after -- because the first time you cash any of it in, or use it in barter, people are going to know and word will spread ... and at that point it becomes a problem keeping it.
So true, you’ll have to really watch that you’re not followed. Look into getting your doors hardened where it makes it much much harder to break in/ kick in. It def gives one plenty of time to make a call and get ready with what ever it is you need in hand toprotect you and what’s yours.
@@2olvets443 I store my silver outside the country. When the SHTF, I intend to scrabble for sustenance along with everyone else. There's no point in keeping something that people will kill to take away from you -- if not your neighbors, then the government. No; keep it for what rises from the ashes, once law and order are restored.
My dad showed me a great way to store stuff, which includes burying the containers. Said containers were at least 4" inner diameter, up to 6" PVC pipes, made to your length of preference (i suggest 2' or less, otherwise it gets really heavy), with one side having a pvc cap in conjunction w/pvc glue, and the other side was a pvc screw cap that you can use a crescent wrench to twist the square part open. Never saw any signs of degradation or moisture, when unearthed after years (decades) of being buried. Works for me!
I bought a pistol burying cannister of plastic, with a rubber seal. I sealed my "pew-pew" with a seal-a-meal too. Used a post hole digger. Luckily all I have is sand.
@Jeff C lemme guess, it wasnt a container made for underground storage, amirite? Of course I am. Dont go that route. What i mentioned above has already been tested for decades of burying it, so…..
All my silver has been through a vacuum sealing machine, which has all the air removed, so your silver will always be in perfect condition! Also, if you bury your stash in the garden, it needs to be at least 7 feet down, otherwise, it can be detected by a good metal detector.
If you don't plan to access your stash, you might consider burying it, then cover the spot with a sidewalk or other concrete work with plenty of rebar in it. Rebar makes a metal detector kind of useless.
I keep coins and rounds in airtight capsules and then keep the capsules in plastic food containers from the dollar store. Get containers that have a seal built into the cover and press down on the center of the cover when placing the cover. Makes a slight vacuum inside. The seal in the cover keeps the inside from breathing. I open them in the winter when the heat is on and the relative humidity is very low. We won''t talk about where I keep these containers. Great video.
Use .30 caliber ammo cans for your silver. They stack, have a sturdy handle, have a rubber gasket, and are watertight. I just throw in a silica gel pack or oxygen absorber. They are of a size that is manageable, even full, and are easily secreted in a lot of out-of-the-way places.
I use ammo cans for storage. Each can can hold $480-495 of 90% coins in tubes. There'll be enough room in the tubes to make it $500. They will also have enough room for a silica gel pack. They will fit a monster box of bullion coins. Don't go over $500 as the weight starts to become a problem for the handle.
I have one designated Silver Britannia that I handle with bare hands. I have put a small dot of nail varnish on the capsule, so I don't mix it up. Any of the mass-produced coins are great for that. It feels great and reminds of how much more precious some of the other ones are 🙂
I definitely believe in the layers of multiple locations. The odds are if they find one spot they'll think that's it and not look any further. And I have a midsized safe that I keep a little bit in as well. But just enough to hopefully throw them off. At least that's my personal opinion and I don't believe in safety deposit Box or storage facilities for my silver as well.
Yup that is exactly what i decided to do. I have them stored in some pretty good spots, mainly because of the weight if i had put all of it in one place. For example, Inside a cabinet speaker.
I store some of my stack at home because I have a part insured and a part I'll take the risk because it is stored in multiple layers what cost us a day to get it out but the problem is gold. Gold is easy to hide. A bar here and there but if they are found you lost a lot. So a special bullion storage facility where you pay 0,5% yearly I think its better because I stack for the economic collapse not for 30-50 years than it will become too expensive. That company don't lend out anything 3very ounce you store is accessible when you want and they have no financial risk and maybe the little financial risks are insured. But what do you do with displayed special coins like special series of coins, proof coins some coins very expensive but they are displayed so a thirf find them easy and with those high value coins you can lose a lot pretty fast.
Buy a big stack of fake silver or gold online, while it's often used to cheat people, it's also pretty much all good enough to fool the average home invader who's in a rush. Just have a safe in an obvious enough spot. once they open it they will think they hit the jackpot and want to get out as soon as possible.
@@Jake12220 Thank you. I really like this suggestion. I see fake stuff for sale often, but it never occurred to me that it could be put to good and legal use.
Get a safe. Place it unbolted inside the closet. Fill the safe with ceramic tiles. Hide you PM in empty paint cans in the basement with the rest of your paint cans. No criminal is coming over to paint your house.
Just utilize the dead spaces in your house. Like the spaces between studs. Very easy. I just covered an unfinished wall in my basement with peg board. The pegboard is covered with shelves / pegs full of "household hardware items" (that I actually do use frequently"). If I need to get to my stash, I can pull a dozen screws and remove a chunk of pegboard.
A search by burglars and thieves and spaces between studs sounds secure. If feds come in to search for a drug stash (wrong address?) they can scan inside walls.
Reading the comments, it seems like too many people have the idea that their idea is the best for everyone else. Any storage solutions has its ups and downs...its strength always has a weakness depending on the circumstances. Don't pick one option!
In my opinion HOME is the safest place. Make sure you have good cameras, a good safe or two, have guns to protect yourself and family and have KIDS … they are usually deterrents 😂
I'm glad Yankee asked about the painting, I was also eyeing it when he mentioned a "behind the painting" safe i was like there's gotta be one there, but it's cool to see him using his own advice
A 1000+ pound TL-30 vault bolted to your floors with security alarms, cameras and panic buttons that summon the police has worked well in the past for me. I'm kind of surprised they never mention the bigger safes. Who in the hell would store bullion in small plastic containers inside a small "hidden" safe? Most hard core stackers could fill up those small safes many times over!!
Yeah true. I visit them first when I am buying but I have to get the rest elsewhere. BUT! Sometimes their prices are so cheap that I change my mind and I end up changing my plans and buy everything from Hero. Very very hard to beat their prices.
Siimple: learn how to do 'perfection' wall-board and plaster repair. 2x4 'shelves' between the newly exposed studs - installed with with 'pocket screws' (KREB)
He called out my “under the garage” plan. When I re-do the concrete I’m gonna have two access points created that will have a few layers of access to it.
Yes, I'm very uncomfortable storing my bullion. Both at home and abroad. Let me explain. I'm uncomfortable not having more that I can store at home and uncomfortable storing any outside of my home. I want as much as possible and I want it in my safe. But of course I have a good safe, a real home security system, and when home (and when I'm not at home) always have my 2A tools on me or within reach as in when I sleep.
Yep, this was the biggest surprise to me when I started collecting. By storing it at home, I felt like a target and would have to check on it occasionally. Eventually, my wife divorced me with no legitimate cause and when we were separated and I came back to the house to get my stuff, I happened to show up when she was leaving and she held her coat tight which looked suspicious so I opened her coat and she sure enough was taking it so good luck trusting your wife. As you say, there are many considerations that come along with collecting precious metals like defending it. Another one is do you have someone you could go to and exchange it for cash or some other currency if the SHTF and we have to turn it in and its made illegal? Not to mention, that I assume our phones and devices have mics that can produce 3D images just from multiple microphones so its possible that these computers and the intel agencies already know where we keep our stuff. Its hard to tell what is worth considering anymore and eventually we just have to do our best and be happy with it, I suppose. On the other hand, I like how thinking about how stuff like this really works helps you see other options as just as valuable as precious metals like crypto so you can access funds anywhere as well as what is the value of our skills or networking with like minded neighbors to form a mutual defense network. Or imagine the cabal that runs the militaries of all nations. They have defenses that have layers like both trusting agents to stand guard at a mint but then also being able to hack the security systems they create so their own defense systems don't get in the way of corruption.
My favorite secret safe is a long, sliding cabinet, tucked inside a door frame. Latch hidden inside the bolt catch to unlock, then pull the whole side of the frame out revealing your secret shelves!
I have found that spraying them with auto-undercoating and letting it cure for a few days in the hot sun goes a long long way in sealing and giving long life to the cans.
I kept a safe out and would get in it around people I knew but only kept less than $100 in it. Had my bulk else were. Was robbed by a so called friend. He took the safe and got $38 when i had my savings else were. Dummy safe is a way to go.
The best way to store gold and silver open and obvious, in multiple locations. Don't be a fool about it open obvious doesn't mean leave it laying on the counter or in plain sight. Here's a tip use a router & router out a thin layer of wood cut to precise measurements of coins bars of your choice on back of picture frame you could cover it or put glass over at like the front and you can turn around and admire both sides. Another tip is to take a small portion of a back of a drawer and install wooden insert you have yourself a few inches by the widht of the drawer to hide things (perfect for tubes of coins or etc.).
I was told to layer mine for protection, so I buried it 4 feet underground in a PVC tube, then poured concrete over it, and then planted an oak tree over it about 40 years ago. I'm not worried about finding where I buried it because now there is a 40-foot oak tree over it.
get a large dummy safe filled with mixed concrete (to the point where door wont open with a code) and leave it in your master bedroom closet. They'll have fun dragging it out and later opening it :) And add some airtags
Buy a nice decorative safe. They hold value and can be considered an investment and they are very heavy. Liberty makes AMAZING safes. If you have the $$$ to buy precious metals you can afford a safe.
Alternative to bolting to the floor as newer slab homes use tensioned concrete slabs. Drill them and you can destroy the entire slab your home is built on.
You mentioned the very popular and inexpensive camera systems. They can be great because they store high resolution audio and video. Most will push a text notification to your smart phone within seconds of being activated. You can then access the live pictures from your cameras through the app on the phone and see what is going on at home. If you are traveling any distance from home it is critical that you get the direct dial number to your local (home) 911 call center and save it as a favorite or speed dial on your smart phone. If you dial 911 away from home you will only get the 911 center near where you are at and it will be a waste a lot of time.
Also, be sure it's your own camera system and don't use stuff like Ring or other external monitoring service. If an employee of the monitoring company w/ camera access happens to get a wild hair, they can queue their buddies in on when you aren't home, and in the case of digitally-controlled door locks, even open the place for them.
Love the Hero bullion. I buy my junk and Cook islands coins there. Have a small shipment coming on Friday. Always a pleasure doing business with them. Thanks
At first, i was storing my silver in several locations around my house, with a small amount 'hidden in plain sight' so that if someone broke in and (likely) found it, they would think they found the stash and take it an leave. Now i realize i live in such a safe area and there has been no crime around here that i can remember, so i don't even care to hide it anymore, i have most of it stacked on my desk 🤣
@@isaiah1931 Lol well like i said i live in a pretty safe place, in more or less a seniors home next to a military base. I've never even heard of any crime in the 15 years ive been here.
This seems like a good idea for most people, particularly if you collection is on the smaller side. Almost every thief is desperate and trying to work quickly, those are your biggest advantages imo. Obviously a thief won't take the trouble to break in and then leave without taking valuables they have found, but once they think they've found your stash they aren't likely to risk getting caught with it in order to keep looking. This would be less effective if you are well known for stacking large amounts and were being specifically targeted, but unless you are also a silver youtuber or maybe a well known criminal you're probably pretty unlikely to be on any body's radar. If you were specifically targeted by professionals like you live in the movies you'd probably want to have a more extreme kind of plan in mind. A moat of crocodiles is a good deterrent to even the most experienced of burgalars. You'd probably want to invest in some kind of mission impossible style laser grids and some giant buzz saws that pop out of your decoy vault and leave the would be thief caught red stumped. Personally I think its only fair to bury it somewhere very remote and make maps with cryptic clues as to how to find it in case you die before you get a chance to do anything fun with it. Ideally your bravest and most cunning ancestor will discover your journal and use your savings to buy back the family farm from the bank wheh they're about to forclose.
Even if in a safe are... I will not leave in the open unless I am displaying... A large, heavy safe (or two) with extra security is the best recipe.... The downside is one needs to empty out shelves to get to what you want to see from time to time.....
Even the crims are going backwards, they will recognize gold but not silver for some reason, locally they really like stealing copper... Spending $40 on gas to steal $30 worth of copper!
Do the same you would to store grains for 20+ years. Mylar bags with an oxygen absorber and desiccant pack. Vacuum seal bags have micro holes and will let air in over time. Amazon for mylar bags, desiccant and oxygen absorbers. You're welcome. Also, a hair straightener will seal the mylar.
7 figures? Dude for anyone here, who can afford to stack a million oz or more of silver, can also afford to have a special vault build under their house.
The best place I have ever heard of to store your stash is old paint cans stored in the garage... if they pick them up, the paint can is supposed to have weight to it, if it is filled. And when have you EVER heard of a theif raiding old paint cans in the garage?
I have seen this advice floating around for a bit and feel like any good thief will now know to check paint cans. A good hiding place made public is no longer a good hiding place.
@@xblowsmokex "a good theif" 😂 have you not seen the recent flood of smash and grabs taking place recently... burglars no long think about things, they go in, grab and run. Like the guys in the video said, chances are they will focus on the Master bedroom, maybe the office and leave. I would be very surprised if they checked every paint can in 2022.
@@partynxs5351 what you are referring to run of the mill dumdum thieves. I’m referring to a good thief who uses their brain and does research / stakeouts. They are few and far between, but they exist. But thank you for your opinion.
The safest way to store bullion, whether at home or elsewhere, is to not tell anyone about it. If you live in a neighborhood prone to burglaries, then avoid storing at home and go external. If you can't afford external, then ask yourself if you really want to invest in bullion in the first place.
944 pound empty weight AMSEC safes have hinges which bulge out, allowing for placement of heavy steel chains with additional locks, creating another layer of security.
All well and good for the coins, but what about storage tips for bars? Does oxidation matter so much with bars or is it more like the 90%, and if so then how to avoid it? Handle with gloves? Store in vacuum sealed food saver bags or mylar? Other ideas? Also, what about gold? Same methods for handling and storing?
I've got a very large amount of metals. I store them at home and NOBODY will ever find them. You just need to get creative. Put it this way, I need 20 minutes to get to them. Frankly, I'd never trust Brinks or other storage. Call me old fashioned cause I guess I am.
If you're stacking long term, theres nothing to say you can't dump your stash into a wall cavity or behind a false wall. I'm a huge believer in giving someone something to leave with in a hostage/emergency situation. get a couple grand and put it in a visible safe. let that be your diversion from your real wealth.
Best is to just hoard to the point you can put in anywhere and just the odds say they never find it. Plus when they ransack the house it still looks mostly the same.
It's hard to figure out a safe place when you are renting a house. Everything is not yours, so to speak. Trying to find somewhere to put silver is very challenging. Anyone else don't own their home and have a few good places? (a couple of hints of where to keep it)
how does the tarnish affect the value though? I don't get it. I suppose a miniscule amount of the silver deteriorates in oxidization, but to survive a recession...how much difference could it possibly make?
I kept my safe in my bedroom with a full sized whitetail buck decoy standing beside the safe ....every time I left I would put everything inside the deer decoy and leave the safe empty..sure enough one day I came home the front door was ripped off the hinges and the safe was gone ...with a smile on my face with a Friend there I said watch this and reached up inside the decoy and pulled my money out .....the decoy was the safe and the safe was the decoy....I've had to come up with more clever ways of hiding my treasure since then but it's really not hard to out smart a criminal mind
Pro Tip: when the contractors are going to be in the same place as the safe. Remove the precious metal to a temporary hiding spot and fill the safe with random paperwork stuff ( it should have important paperwork already ) and maybe a cheap gun ( to add believability). Leave the safe open. There now they know you have a safe and that there's nothing in it.
I bought plasticized flips when i was about 14, they got oil all over the coins that were in them (thankfully nothing valuable) i didn't buy them at a coin shop or online. I bought them after a tour of the US Mint in DC. Why is the US mint selling terrible storage supplies?
i can remember seeing damage to the windows, (they could not break the glass) and damage to the door frame (6 point door). Reviewed video and identified the people involved. I left them standing in the rain in the dark of night.
The theory is that silica will draw moisture into the safe and rust your guns. I use a safe heating strip,buy in an gun store, and the heat will dry the air ,expand and force moisture out.
Simple security... You have two or three safes, one safe is the sacrificial safe which has a small amount that you can afford to lose, something that is not easy to find but not too hard to find. Another safe as your daily use safe thats well hidden. The vault safe being placed somewhere that is not easy to access, is security hardened and well hidden.
What is the way to transport metals across borders in a SHTF event. Having a “out of country” passport and house is great, but getting your physical metals there is a different story.
Yea that comment didn’t clear up much, you either sold in the dip and “lost”, or you held it…and didn’t actually lose anything, you still have the ozs. Now maybe the coins were “physically lost” someway, somehow during the dip. Which has nothing to do with the price;)
@@MehdiManavi Comex is where they basically set the price of silver, by selling paper derivatives. Joseph is calling it fauxmex as in fakemex instead of comex
My concern with third party vaults is a distrust of desperate governments. What’s to keep them from raiding commercial vaults and seizing precious metals holdings? FDR did it in the 1930’s, and only a month or two back the FBI raided a private storage facility in California and helped themselves to the contents. I’m not sure if it was a bonded and insured warehouse for precious metal storage but it was a commercial establishment where people stored valuables.
Thanks for the information. I have a medium safe, a 2'.5 x2'.5 size, heavy for me to lift. So I was going to do another area, hiding in the home. But was curious as to what if there is a fire and not in a safe. What will this to do the silver or gold?
The problem with this video, is it depends on who is after your stuff. If you live in a city, most break ins are smash and grab. If someone knows you have something and is planning a hit, they will wait until you are at work, out of town, or if home is empty and be in your house 30 mins or longer.
Great info but what do you do about the plastic that comes from the mint? Usually on bars. Do you remove it? Leave it? I’ve never gotten an answer to this.
Under the gravel in my fish tank ! Also I paint kilos brown and put them on the woodwork of the shop where it looks like a piece of wood especially once it’s covered in dusty dirt! Also I have several dogs and I am a marine with special skills and I spread it out all over the property! I have lost nothing and someone is always home and armed so I’m not worried. I also have a cheap safe that I filled with fake bars and coins from temu and it’s visible and it’s easy for them to take and they will think they scored until they try cashing it in!😅😅😅😅😅
I put inside an ashes jar my gold, and put in a columbarium, no theft go to check niche by niche in a big cemetery. The movie The good, the bad and the ugly inspired me.
Ive been in silver & gold bullion since about 2004 and will never let any of mine out of my own possession. There are steps (gradual steps) that need to be taken to safeguard your bullion such as the investment into a high grade, probably larger sized jewelers safe secured to the foundation of your placement. I preferred dial/ non-electric. An alarm system and /or trained dogs and of course a well trained person in Second Amendment affairs is also recommended. If people allow their bullion to be stored elsewhere there is unforeseeable circumstances that can cause you to never see your bullion ever again. I wont take that risk. I will own all my risk myself. Other options is a "treasure map" (cashe). Gold & silver is able to be buried in an ammo can or the like and placed in the ground. Just make sure you use something other than the surroundings to know where you put it. Sights change season to season and wont look the same in a few years or longer.
@Silver Dragons or @yankee... I am new with silver stacking. Can you please help me with the following questions. Is the 10oz 999.9 Germania Silver bars and 10oz .9999 RCM Silver bars similar in grade ? Also, Which one on these are good for stacking? Or should i consider buying silver from any other mint?
Yes they are both fine investment grade silver. Unless you just like the design of one over the other, buy the cheapest one. You will get spot when you sell it either way. I might pay slightly extra for pamp or Britannia bars but that’s about it
I have a small fireproof safe with no valuables in it. It contains old books that any thief would just dump if they stole them. ...but the safe _looks_ very tempting. I don't want to bolt it to my nice hardwood floor. So, I put as many lead diving belt weights in there as I could fit. Now it's so crazy heavy that any thief who breaks in and steals it will get a hernia. If they do manage to get it out of my house, they will be bummed beyond belief at the pitiful contents.
Having a decoy safe, that's a really good thing to have, I have always had one, and two years ago I had my house broken into, he stole my decoy and pretty much wasn't worried about anything else, the next day on the news, there was a guy that got arrested at Walmart for trying to pay for his things with fake hundred dollars bills, he got 20 years in federal prison for that, all I can say is, karma is great.
That is genius, sir!
and u can put fake gold/silver bars
@@airmanfpv964 true, but I like fake currency better, it's more affective.
@@johnny-lz2rm I’m kinda worried about searching for the fake currency for the decoy safe. Is that going to get me on a list somewhere? 🤔
@@diracflux I'm not sure about that, but I heard from a friend that, his friends cousins uncle said that one day he accidentally left some dollars in his pocket of his pants and washed them, he was bleaching the pants and when he got them out of the washer, he said that the one dollar bills he had in his pocket, they turned into a blank bill, he said that it would be so easy to print a hundred dollar face on the blank bill. But I don't know, I don't do things like that cause it's against the law.
I am over 70 yrs. old always lived in a safe neighborhood I have never had my home invaded. The chances of someone breaking in to steal anything are very very slim, only my daughters know about my stacking and they know not to mention it and probably never crosses their mind. I will play the odd's of over 70 years with no break in's, I am home 95% of the time me and my friends MR. Smith & Wesson.
Yes people way overestimate break ins and are almost obsessed with this idea people know they have gold and silver and are after it.
Unless you live in a bad area or a city, you're probably highly unlikely to ever encounter any danger from burglary. A bolted or well hidden safe and a something that goes pew pew for insurance is all you need. Anyone saying you need anything else or having to go to all these extra lengths are just paranoid.
Your comments are inspiring and btw my friend is named Magnum!
@@ryanturner8577 It all depends on who you know and what they know about you.
A secured storage on premises is highly advisable IMHO... depending on the quantity stored... once folks have more than 2-3 thousand ounces it could become a problem, NOT speaking from experience though
@@TruthLivesNow Sorry for your loss but that's me except I haven't died yet and I've warned the kids what's coming. That Marlin now though.
Desiccant Horror Story: A year after my dad's death 40 years ago, I opened his stand-alone safe in the basement. He was a coin and stamp collector, not a stacker, and even had columns in both coin and stamp magazines, so had a variety of mint stamps, proof sets, medieval and ancient coins, etc. He had placed a can of desiccant about the size of a PB jar in the safe. It attracted moisture, then overflowed and continued to do so, flooding the safe and rusting out the floor of the safe. Sheets of stamps were stuck together, proof set containers were moldy and all the silver coins were now junk silver. The ancient and medieval coins were fine. I did not inherit my dad's love of coinage (or else I wouldn't have commented here). If somebody breaks into my house they will find motorcycles and tools. I just sought out this video so I could caution folks against making this same mistake. Monitor your storage environment and school your heirs on how to handle your collection.
Excellent advice, heartbreaking story (as far as the destroyed treasure, memories and value)
Same thing happened to my fiancé's dads safe! He hadn't opened it in over 10 years and had those large desiccant jars in it. Ended up rusting up all his guns. It was a sad sight.
Thank you so much for sharing. It's really selfless of you to seek out this video to warn people. I'll remember this story and take your message to heart.
Oh that's a bummer. Thanks for the warning. I suppose small amounts of silica gel is ok.
Heard about a multiple gun safe collect get destroyed from rust because they were never opened and maintained.
Nobody ever mentions about having a German Shepherd as a first layer, or line, of defense. Once a thief hears a German Shepherd's bark, they might think twice about breaking into your home. German Shepherds are very intelligent, so they are easily taught. And protecting the home and family is a natural thing for a German Shepherd. My German Shepherd is by far, the best friend I will ever have.
Same :)
You need to meet more people 😂😂
@@eliaspadilla876 Why? For speaking the truth? I have a Cane Corso. Weight is 145 pounds. One of the strongest dogs in the world. I'd love for somebody to try to break in
@@davidortiz3094 A rat poison laced hot dog will quickly solve that, just saying….I like dogs, but….now, if you are being attacked, dogs are great.
Pups are such useful companians
I'm comfortable storing ALL of my gold and silver at home.
It is stored in ammo cans which are in a 2000 lbs gun safe. The safe is also bolted to the floor. The ammo cans are air tight and I have an electric dehumidifier in the safe. Every entry point to the house is reinforced. I have motion-activated cameras that upload video to the cloud. Everyone in the house has firearm training.
2 minutes with an angle grinder and that safe is toast
@@LarsLarsen77 did you not read motion activated cameras, reinforced doors and everyone has a gun?😂😂😂
We will use a nuke
Still could get in easily…
lmao ok good luck with that
I have two German Shepherds. They are fitted with body cams and I’ve taught them how to shoot. My silver is hidden under their food bowls.
I'm a retired Police K-9 trainer. I have two German Shepherds as well and the work as a team. Once you are in, you will not be leaving and they both do groin bites! Now that's training.
Thats pretty crazy but smart. Ive been doing some thinking of how to start storing my gold and silver. Mines stored very well in an airtight weather proof box but i want some extra layers of security
What no one seems to think of is that it's not where you keep it prior to SHTF; it's where you keep it after -- because the first time you cash any of it in, or use it in barter, people are going to know and word will spread ... and at that point it becomes a problem keeping it.
Cash out in another city, or state even.
@@phoenixrising011that is all well and good however WSHTF gas may be an issue.
So true, you’ll have to really watch that you’re not followed. Look into getting your doors hardened where it makes it much much harder to break in/ kick in. It def gives one plenty of time to make a call and get ready with what ever it is you need in hand toprotect you and what’s yours.
@@2olvets443 I store my silver outside the country. When the SHTF, I intend to scrabble for sustenance along with everyone else. There's no point in keeping something that people will kill to take away from you -- if not your neighbors, then the government. No; keep it for what rises from the ashes, once law and order are restored.
My dad showed me a great way to store stuff, which includes burying the containers. Said containers were at least 4" inner diameter, up to 6" PVC pipes, made to your length of preference (i suggest 2' or less, otherwise it gets really heavy), with one side having a pvc cap in conjunction w/pvc glue, and the other side was a pvc screw cap that you can use a crescent wrench to twist the square part open. Never saw any signs of degradation or moisture, when unearthed after years (decades) of being buried. Works for me!
My friend showed me this one. Ended up being a convenient place to store crossbow bolts
Works well for guns n ammo. Or so I've heard.
I bought a pistol burying cannister of plastic, with a rubber seal. I sealed my "pew-pew" with a seal-a-meal too. Used a post hole digger. Luckily all I have is sand.
I buried a 1 gallon plastic jar. It quickly got water in it from condensation. Guns would rust.
@Jeff C lemme guess, it wasnt a container made for underground storage, amirite? Of course I am. Dont go that route. What i mentioned above has already been tested for decades of burying it, so…..
Floor safe with a shed built on top, and your lawnmower on top of the hidden door , and the rubber mat covering your entrance door to the floor safe .
All my silver has been through a vacuum sealing machine, which has all the air removed, so your silver will always be in perfect condition! Also, if you bury your stash in the garden, it needs to be at least 7 feet down, otherwise, it can be detected by a good metal detector.
If you don't plan to access your stash, you might consider burying it, then cover the spot with a sidewalk or other concrete work with plenty of rebar in it. Rebar makes a metal detector kind of useless.
@@garydailey809 Great Idea, I never thought of that, so thanks for the idea
I keep coins and rounds in airtight capsules and then keep the capsules in plastic food containers from the dollar store. Get containers that have a seal built into the cover and press down on the center of the cover when placing the cover. Makes a slight vacuum inside. The seal in the cover keeps the inside from breathing. I open them in the winter when the heat is on and the relative humidity is very low. We won''t talk about where I keep these containers. Great video.
Great suggestion 👌 👍 👏
What kind of food containers
Unfortunately, I recently lost all of my PM in a terrible boating accident. What a shame.
my irons also
lol. The governments do it too. There's about 20 million tons of gold in our oceans.
Same here, the sea was hungry that day
My guns were with mine .😣
Lost them all !
Use .30 caliber ammo cans for your silver. They stack, have a sturdy handle, have a rubber gasket, and are watertight. I just throw in a silica gel pack or oxygen absorber. They are of a size that is manageable, even full, and are easily secreted in a lot of out-of-the-way places.
I use ammo cans for storage. Each can can hold $480-495 of 90% coins in tubes. There'll be enough room in the tubes to make it $500. They will also have enough room for a silica gel pack. They will fit a monster box of bullion coins. Don't go over $500 as the weight starts to become a problem for the handle.
I have one designated Silver Britannia that I handle with bare hands. I have put a small dot of nail varnish on the capsule, so I don't mix it up. Any of the mass-produced coins are great for that. It feels great and reminds of how much more precious some of the other ones are 🙂
I definitely believe in the layers of multiple locations. The odds are if they find one spot they'll think that's it and not look any further. And I have a midsized safe that I keep a little bit in as well. But just enough to hopefully throw them off. At least that's my personal opinion and I don't believe in safety deposit Box or storage facilities for my silver as well.
Yup that is exactly what i decided to do. I have them stored in some pretty good spots, mainly because of the weight if i had put all of it in one place. For example, Inside a cabinet speaker.
I store some of my stack at home because I have a part insured and a part I'll take the risk because it is stored in multiple layers what cost us a day to get it out but the problem is gold. Gold is easy to hide. A bar here and there but if they are found you lost a lot. So a special bullion storage facility where you pay 0,5% yearly I think its better because I stack for the economic collapse not for 30-50 years than it will become too expensive. That company don't lend out anything 3very ounce you store is accessible when you want and they have no financial risk and maybe the little financial risks are insured.
But what do you do with displayed special coins like special series of coins, proof coins some coins very expensive but they are displayed so a thirf find them easy and with those high value coins you can lose a lot pretty fast.
Buy a big stack of fake silver or gold online, while it's often used to cheat people, it's also pretty much all good enough to fool the average home invader who's in a rush.
Just have a safe in an obvious enough spot. once they open it they will think they hit the jackpot and want to get out as soon as possible.
@@Jake12220 thanks ! That's a good idea
@@Jake12220 Thank you. I really like this suggestion. I see fake stuff for sale often, but it never occurred to me that it could be put to good and legal use.
I have jewelry hidden all over the house…hidden so well that I can’t even find it to wear!
Get a safe. Place it unbolted inside the closet. Fill the safe with ceramic tiles. Hide you PM in empty paint cans in the basement with the rest of your paint cans. No criminal is coming over to paint your house.
Just utilize the dead spaces in your house. Like the spaces between studs. Very easy. I just covered an unfinished wall in my basement with peg board. The pegboard is covered with shelves / pegs full of "household hardware items" (that I actually do use frequently"). If I need to get to my stash, I can pull a dozen screws and remove a chunk of pegboard.
I think this is genius level. Will try this.
A search by burglars and thieves and spaces between studs sounds secure. If feds come in to search for a drug stash (wrong address?) they can scan inside walls.
Reading the comments, it seems like too many people have the idea that their idea is the best for everyone else.
Any storage solutions has its ups and downs...its strength always has a weakness depending on the circumstances.
Don't pick one option!
I live in a state where you couldn't dig up buried bullion nearly half the year, because the ground is frozen.
Thats good!🤣
In my opinion HOME is the safest place. Make sure you have good cameras, a good safe or two, have guns to protect yourself and family and have KIDS … they are usually deterrents 😂
I keep my guns with my silver so they automatically shoot thieves if I’m not home… at least that’s how the media tells me guns work.
@@GotrekGurninsson 😂👍🏻
@@LatimusChadimus My kids(and wife) shoot more and better then me so you are right I need to watch them!
Lol 😂 kids are definitely a deterrent there savages 😂😂😂💪💪💪
@@savagestacker we got that covered don’t we savage 😎👌🏻😂🤣
There are horror stories about safety deposit boxes that convinced me to never ever use one
Vacuuming silver helps. The devices for vacuuming meat or fish work great.
I'm glad Yankee asked about the painting, I was also eyeing it when he mentioned a "behind the painting" safe i was like there's gotta be one there, but it's cool to see him using his own advice
There's no safe behind the painting he showed off the painting in a previous video
A 1000+ pound TL-30 vault bolted to your floors with security alarms, cameras and panic buttons that summon the police has worked well in the past for me. I'm kind of surprised they never mention the bigger safes. Who in the hell would store bullion in small plastic containers inside a small "hidden" safe? Most hard core stackers could fill up those small safes many times over!!
Yankee brought it up at 13:06
Stop buying all that gold and silver you've bought enough
This converstion is awesome! So friendly and professional. I learned something new today. Good work !
I love Hero Bullion. Just wish they had more inventory so I wouldn't need to shop anywhere else.
Yeah true. I visit them first when I am buying but I have to get the rest elsewhere.
BUT! Sometimes their prices are so cheap that I change my mind and I end up changing my plans and buy everything from Hero. Very very hard to beat their prices.
Siimple: learn how to do 'perfection' wall-board and plaster repair. 2x4 'shelves' between the newly exposed studs - installed with with 'pocket screws' (KREB)
There’s a dummy safe concept that says you hide the really value items in several locations and place some throw away items in the obvious safe.
He called out my “under the garage” plan. When I re-do the concrete I’m gonna have two access points created that will have a few layers of access to it.
Dig another garage under your current garage and you should be good.
“Does your license plate say ‘999FINE’” 😂
I've seen a car in my neighborhood that says AG AU.
Once he mentioned using others to hold it, I was done.
Yes, I'm very uncomfortable storing my bullion. Both at home and abroad. Let me explain. I'm uncomfortable not having more that I can store at home and uncomfortable storing any outside of my home. I want as much as possible and I want it in my safe. But of course I have a good safe, a real home security system, and when home (and when I'm not at home) always have my 2A tools on me or within reach as in when I sleep.
Yep, this was the biggest surprise to me when I started collecting. By storing it at home, I felt like a target and would have to check on it occasionally. Eventually, my wife divorced me with no legitimate cause and when we were separated and I came back to the house to get my stuff, I happened to show up when she was leaving and she held her coat tight which looked suspicious so I opened her coat and she sure enough was taking it so good luck trusting your wife.
As you say, there are many considerations that come along with collecting precious metals like defending it. Another one is do you have someone you could go to and exchange it for cash or some other currency if the SHTF and we have to turn it in and its made illegal?
Not to mention, that I assume our phones and devices have mics that can produce 3D images just from multiple microphones so its possible that these computers and the intel agencies already know where we keep our stuff. Its hard to tell what is worth considering anymore and eventually we just have to do our best and be happy with it, I suppose.
On the other hand, I like how thinking about how stuff like this really works helps you see other options as just as valuable as precious metals like crypto so you can access funds anywhere as well as what is the value of our skills or networking with like minded neighbors to form a mutual defense network.
Or imagine the cabal that runs the militaries of all nations. They have defenses that have layers like both trusting agents to stand guard at a mint but then also being able to hack the security systems they create so their own defense systems don't get in the way of corruption.
My favorite secret safe is a long, sliding cabinet, tucked inside a door frame.
Latch hidden inside the bolt catch to unlock, then pull the whole side of the frame out revealing your secret shelves!
I keep my stash in my nightstand and fondle it regularly.
I use metal ammo boxes for my silver which have waterproof seals. Nice metal handles because when they are full they are very heavy.
I have found that spraying them with auto-undercoating and letting it cure for a few days in the hot sun goes a long long way in sealing and giving long life to the cans.
I kept a safe out and would get in it around people I knew but only kept less than $100 in it. Had my bulk else were. Was robbed by a so called friend. He took the safe and got $38 when i had my savings else were. Dummy safe is a way to go.
An issue not really addressed is best protection for fire. I think fire is as likely a threat as theft
Fully agree. Fireproof safe is a must.
I'm MORE worried about fire than theft.
The best way to store gold and silver open and obvious, in multiple locations. Don't be a fool about it open obvious doesn't mean leave it laying on the counter or in plain sight. Here's a tip use a router & router out a thin layer of wood cut to precise measurements of coins bars of your choice on back of picture frame you could cover it or put glass over at like the front and you can turn around and admire both sides. Another tip is to take a small portion of a back of a drawer and install wooden insert you have yourself a few inches by the widht of the drawer to hide things (perfect for tubes of coins or etc.).
I was told to layer mine for protection, so I buried it 4 feet underground in a PVC tube, then poured concrete over it, and then planted an oak tree over it about 40 years ago. I'm not worried about finding where I buried it because now there is a 40-foot oak tree over it.
So, in order to have access to it you'll have to cut down that beautiful tree???!
I did that but thru a huge steel cage panel on the ground prior to the concrete.
get a large dummy safe filled with mixed concrete (to the point where door wont open with a code) and leave it in your master bedroom closet. They'll have fun dragging it out and later opening it :) And add some airtags
😂😂 I’d love to see the reaction on a thief’s face after seeing that
Mine has a bunch of roofing lead and fireworks shells in it… if they drag it home and try to torch or grind it open, they’ll make the news…
Buy a nice decorative safe. They hold value and can be considered an investment and they are very heavy. Liberty makes AMAZING safes.
If you have the $$$ to buy precious metals you can afford a safe.
just put a sign outside your house saying "this house certainly DOES NOT contain a ****load of silver" :P
Alternative to bolting to the floor as newer slab homes use tensioned concrete slabs. Drill them and you can destroy the entire slab your home is built on.
You mentioned the very popular and inexpensive camera systems. They can be great because they store high resolution audio and video. Most will push a text notification to your smart phone within seconds of being activated. You can then access the live pictures from your cameras through the app on the phone and see what is going on at home. If you are traveling any distance from home it is critical that you get the direct dial number to your local (home) 911 call center and save it as a favorite or speed dial on your smart phone. If you dial 911 away from home you will only get the 911 center near where you are at and it will be a waste a lot of time.
Also, be sure it's your own camera system and don't use stuff like Ring or other external monitoring service. If an employee of the monitoring company w/ camera access happens to get a wild hair, they can queue their buddies in on when you aren't home, and in the case of digitally-controlled door locks, even open the place for them.
This is the first time I've watched your program and I found it to be very informative and interesting!
Love the Hero bullion. I buy my junk and Cook islands coins there. Have a small shipment coming on Friday. Always a pleasure doing business with them. Thanks
Awesome video. Storage is such an important topic.
At first, i was storing my silver in several locations around my house, with a small amount 'hidden in plain sight' so that if someone broke in and (likely) found it, they would think they found the stash and take it an leave. Now i realize i live in such a safe area and there has been no crime around here that i can remember, so i don't even care to hide it anymore, i have most of it stacked on my desk 🤣
Bold man 😂😂 I strive for that level of security
@@isaiah1931 Lol well like i said i live in a pretty safe place, in more or less a seniors home next to a military base. I've never even heard of any crime in the 15 years ive been here.
This seems like a good idea for most people, particularly if you collection is on the smaller side. Almost every thief is desperate and trying to work quickly, those are your biggest advantages imo.
Obviously a thief won't take the trouble to break in and then leave without taking valuables they have found, but once they think they've found your stash they aren't likely to risk getting caught with it in order to keep looking.
This would be less effective if you are well known for stacking large amounts and were being specifically targeted, but unless you are also a silver youtuber or maybe a well known criminal you're probably pretty unlikely to be on any body's radar. If you were specifically targeted by professionals like you live in the movies you'd probably want to have a more extreme kind of plan in mind. A moat of crocodiles is a good deterrent to even the most experienced of burgalars. You'd probably want to invest in some kind of mission impossible style laser grids and some giant buzz saws that pop out of your decoy vault and leave the would be thief caught red stumped.
Personally I think its only fair to bury it somewhere very remote and make maps with cryptic clues as to how to find it in case you die before you get a chance to do anything fun with it. Ideally your bravest and most cunning ancestor will discover your journal and use your savings to buy back the family farm from the bank wheh they're about to forclose.
Even if in a safe are... I will not leave in the open unless I am displaying... A large, heavy safe (or two) with extra security is the best recipe.... The downside is one needs to empty out shelves to get to what you want to see from time to time.....
Even the crims are going backwards, they will recognize gold but not silver for some reason, locally they really like stealing copper... Spending $40 on gas to steal $30 worth of copper!
Do the same you would to store grains for 20+ years. Mylar bags with an oxygen absorber and desiccant pack. Vacuum seal bags have micro holes and will let air in over time. Amazon for mylar bags, desiccant and oxygen absorbers. You're welcome. Also, a hair straightener will seal the mylar.
7 figures?
Dude for anyone here, who can afford to stack a million oz or more of silver, can also afford to have a special vault build under their house.
if you were that rich you'd have gold.
Wow I just hit a thousand oz and thought I was doing well
C’mon man! Scrouge McDuck vault! 🤣
@@digitalgoonie dude he DOES have a special vault.
@@rphb5870 been swimming in it? 😂
FBI messed with DJT's dummy safe at Mar-a-Lago almost 4 hrs trying to open it.....🤣
Great job Dragon and Yankee. Very informative.
Absolutely awesome! Keep up the fun and hard work! Thanks guys.
The best place I have ever heard of to store your stash is old paint cans stored in the garage... if they pick them up, the paint can is supposed to have weight to it, if it is filled. And when have you EVER heard of a theif raiding old paint cans in the garage?
They would have weight, but sound very funny.
@@stevewoods8116 stuff the can with a hand towel or something to keep the coins from moving
I have seen this advice floating around for a bit and feel like any good thief will now know to check paint cans. A good hiding place made public is no longer a good hiding place.
@@xblowsmokex "a good theif" 😂 have you not seen the recent flood of smash and grabs taking place recently... burglars no long think about things, they go in, grab and run. Like the guys in the video said, chances are they will focus on the Master bedroom, maybe the office and leave. I would be very surprised if they checked every paint can in 2022.
@@partynxs5351 what you are referring to run of the mill dumdum thieves. I’m referring to a good thief who uses their brain and does research / stakeouts. They are few and far between, but they exist. But thank you for your opinion.
I recently purchased from Hero Bullion, this company handles business at low prices. They ship faster than anyone I have ever used.
Agreed
I agree. I’ve used Hero Bullion now for a while and they have consistently good prices and are reliable.
The safest way to store bullion, whether at home or elsewhere, is to not tell anyone about it.
If you live in a neighborhood prone to burglaries, then avoid storing at home and go external. If you can't afford external, then ask yourself if you really want to invest in bullion in the first place.
If you can't afford external storage rethink about investing in bullion? FFS that's stupid advice.
@@silvershelbygt500 seriously, what a moronic take.
@@silvershelbygt500 yup. Get lead before u get silver
944 pound empty weight AMSEC safes have hinges which bulge out, allowing for placement of heavy steel chains with additional locks, creating another layer of security.
All well and good for the coins, but what about storage tips for bars? Does oxidation matter so much with bars or is it more like the 90%, and if so then how to avoid it? Handle with gloves? Store in vacuum sealed food saver bags or mylar? Other ideas? Also, what about gold? Same methods for handling and storing?
I've always believed the best way to keep your PM safe is to keep your mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships.
Appreciate you providing this topic with of discussion
I've got a very large amount of metals. I store them at home and NOBODY will ever find them. You just need to get creative. Put it this way, I need 20 minutes to get to them. Frankly, I'd never trust Brinks or other storage. Call me old fashioned cause I guess I am.
If you're stacking long term, theres nothing to say you can't dump your stash into a wall cavity or behind a false wall. I'm a huge believer in giving someone something to leave with in a hostage/emergency situation. get a couple grand and put it in a visible safe. let that be your diversion from your real wealth.
Best is to just hoard to the point you can put in anywhere and just the odds say they never find it. Plus when they ransack the house it still looks mostly the same.
It's hard to figure out a safe place when you are renting a house. Everything is not yours, so to speak. Trying to find somewhere to put silver is very challenging. Anyone else don't own their home and have a few good places? (a couple of hints of where to keep it)
I have enjoyed purchasing from Hero bullion. Great topic.
They ship to Canada?
@@waltergomes1130 Don't know, I am is the southern US
Thanks CM
how does the tarnish affect the value though? I don't get it. I suppose a miniscule amount of the silver deteriorates in oxidization, but to survive a recession...how much difference could it possibly make?
How much does it affect the value NOW? Ok so it will be at least that much or more when it is multiple times more valuable. Use your brain!
@@david7384 sounds like penny pinching to me
If your only buying silver for its metal value, like bars & rounds, tarnish should have no effect on the price.
I kept my safe in my bedroom with a full sized whitetail buck decoy standing beside the safe ....every time I left I would put everything inside the deer decoy and leave the safe empty..sure enough one day I came home the front door was ripped off the hinges and the safe was gone ...with a smile on my face with a Friend there I said watch this and reached up inside the decoy and pulled my money out .....the decoy was the safe and the safe was the decoy....I've had to come up with more clever ways of hiding my treasure since then but it's really not hard to out smart a criminal mind
Pro Tip: when the contractors are going to be in the same place as the safe. Remove the precious metal to a temporary hiding spot and fill the safe with random paperwork stuff ( it should have important paperwork already ) and maybe a cheap gun ( to add believability). Leave the safe open. There now they know you have a safe and that there's nothing in it.
Basically informing them that’s it’s your decoy? Lol
I wouldnt have any remotely important paperwork or a weapon anywhere near strangers in my house…
As part of your Homeowners policy you can insure a collection if appraised. Not bullion.
True, I have alittle on hand but for the most part I'm gonna be using SD Depository. I plan on leaving it to my son baring any emergencies.
A Dog is the best method of keeping thieves away plus great company.
I used to think that. I had 2 big Great Dane / Pitbull mixes. They pepper sprayed them and took what they wanted.
I bought plasticized flips when i was about 14, they got oil all over the coins that were in them (thankfully nothing valuable) i didn't buy them at a coin shop or online. I bought them after a tour of the US Mint in DC. Why is the US mint selling terrible storage supplies?
i can remember seeing damage to the windows, (they could not break the glass) and damage to the door frame (6 point door).
Reviewed video and identified the people involved. I left them standing in the rain in the dark of night.
The theory is that silica will draw moisture into the safe and rust your guns.
I use a safe heating strip,buy in an gun store, and the heat will dry the air ,expand and force moisture out.
There is no way moisture is being drawn into a sealed safe. Absurd.
A safe is not sealed from air,no rubber seal.
Simple security...
You have two or three safes, one safe is the sacrificial safe which has a small amount that you can afford to lose, something that is not easy to find but not too hard to find.
Another safe as your daily use safe thats well hidden.
The vault safe being placed somewhere that is not easy to access, is security hardened and well hidden.
I had a 65-inch Box screen TV and I gutted it out and a safe fit in there perfectly I think that wasn't bad!
Should have saved a big CRT tv and gut the picture tube for storage. Nobody in their right mind would steal it.
Excellent helpful topic....hmmm things to consider and not. Thanks guys.
What is the way to transport metals across borders in a SHTF event. Having a “out of country” passport and house is great, but getting your physical metals there is a different story.
I've lost quite a good number of coins in the current dip,I just hope I find a way to recover from such a massive loss.
Lost? You sold them as you need the cash?
Yea that comment didn’t clear up much, you either sold in the dip and “lost”, or you held it…and didn’t actually lose anything, you still have the ozs. Now maybe the coins were “physically lost” someway, somehow during the dip. Which has nothing to do with the price;)
@@LatimusChadimus whats the fauxMex?
Boating accident?
@@MehdiManavi Comex is where they basically set the price of silver, by selling paper derivatives. Joseph is calling it fauxmex as in fakemex instead of comex
My concern with third party vaults is a distrust of desperate governments. What’s to keep them from raiding commercial vaults and seizing precious metals holdings? FDR did it in the 1930’s, and only a month or two back the FBI raided a private storage facility in California and helped themselves to the contents. I’m not sure if it was a bonded and insured warehouse for precious metal storage but it was a commercial establishment where people stored valuables.
SD, that was funny how you mentioned no one would be suspicious about yankee digging at 2 AM. LOL I really like HERO bullion.
Thanks for the information. I have a medium safe, a 2'.5 x2'.5 size, heavy for me to lift. So I was going to do another area, hiding in the home. But was curious as to what if there is a fire and not in a safe. What will this to do the silver or gold?
It’ll melt the crap out of it...I was just thinking that nobody has even mentioned a fire
16:00 I don't think you need to go 3 feet down, that is just for the frost zone, frost isn't going to harm your bullion.
The problem with this video, is it depends on who is after your stuff. If you live in a city, most break ins are smash and grab.
If someone knows you have something and is planning a hit, they will wait until you are at work, out of town, or if home is empty and be in your house 30 mins or longer.
They could be in my house for hours and never find my stack.
Would putting my silver thru my seal a meal(like you do with steaks and what not) protect your silver properly?
Great info but what do you do about the plastic that comes from the mint? Usually on bars. Do you remove it? Leave it? I’ve never gotten an answer to this.
Keep it in the plastic
Especially the Germanias they got the hologram sticker on the plastic & they tested it to make sure it doesn't cause milkspots.
How can it be the safest place when it's posted on you tube?
Small airports here have lockers with 24/7 security and if you show your ID with locker ticket you can get n any time.
Fake coins and bars are great for a dummy safe. Then they think they got something but Ha Ha Ha.
Under the gravel in my fish tank ! Also I paint kilos brown and put them on the woodwork of the shop where it looks like a piece of wood especially once it’s covered in dusty dirt! Also I have several dogs and I am a marine with special skills and I spread it out all over the property! I have lost nothing and someone is always home and armed so I’m not worried. I also have a cheap safe that I filled with fake bars and coins from temu and it’s visible and it’s easy for them to take and they will think they scored until they try cashing it in!😅😅😅😅😅
Great advice!
I put inside an ashes jar my gold, and put in a columbarium, no theft go to check niche by niche in a big cemetery. The movie The good, the bad and the ugly inspired me.
Ive been in silver & gold bullion since about 2004 and will never let any of mine out of my own possession.
There are steps (gradual steps) that need to be taken to safeguard your bullion such as the investment into a high grade, probably larger sized jewelers safe secured to the foundation of your placement. I preferred dial/ non-electric. An alarm system and /or trained dogs and of course a well trained person in Second Amendment affairs is also recommended.
If people allow their bullion to be stored elsewhere there is unforeseeable circumstances that can cause you to never see your bullion ever again.
I wont take that risk. I will own all my risk myself.
Other options is a "treasure map" (cashe). Gold & silver is able to be buried in an ammo can or the like and placed in the ground. Just make sure you use something other than the surroundings to know where you put it. Sights change season to season and wont look the same in a few years or longer.
Very nice video. Lots of info and fun.
Awesome information! Thanks for sharing
@Silver Dragons or @yankee... I am new with silver stacking. Can you please help me with the following questions.
Is the 10oz 999.9 Germania Silver bars and 10oz .9999 RCM Silver bars similar in grade ?
Also, Which one on these are good for stacking?
Or should i consider buying silver from any other mint?
Yes they are both fine investment grade silver. Unless you just like the design of one over the other, buy the cheapest one. You will get spot when you sell it either way. I might pay slightly extra for pamp or Britannia bars but that’s about it
Honestly you might get slightly more for the rcm bar when selling but I wouldn’t risk it if you plan on buying a lot. Silver is silver imo
I already have the RCM bar & once had a kilo Germania but traded out for libertads. I do miss it.
Great well thought out video to help people stay safe.
I have a small fireproof safe with no valuables in it. It contains old books that any thief would just dump if they stole them. ...but the safe _looks_ very tempting. I don't want to bolt it to my nice hardwood floor. So, I put as many lead diving belt weights in there as I could fit. Now it's so crazy heavy that any thief who breaks in and steals it will get a hernia. If they do manage to get it out of my house, they will be bummed beyond belief at the pitiful contents.
I loved that part when he said “do you have a RUclips channel” lol.
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