Pension and re-election. That WAS Nifong's motive. Nifong knew the boys were innocent. He knew that from the moment he talked to the stripper. That wasn't the issue. The issue was that Nifong's job was a political one, he was ELECTED to his job. And he was up for re-election. And he assumed (perhaps correctly) that the black community would have voted him out of office (and out of a job) if he didn't charge 3 white boys that he knew were innocent. So he charged them, he was re-elected in November of 2006, that doubles his pension, and then in early 2007, it was all exposed as a fraud. Really what this boils down to is the ignorance of voters in a Republic and financial compensation for elected officials based on tenure to elected service. That was it.
@@brianb1888 And they ALSO had tenure so they didn't have to worry about THEIR jobs. That was just them being #woke way too early. As far as I know only one of the "gang of 88" agreed to answer a question after they boys were found innocent. He said something along the lines of the "principle of the matter" is what mattered. The rest avoided the media. To this day they still avoid the media. The people who really should be angry about this are the Duke Alumni. They donate millions to the endowment, millions. And when Duke settled out of court to the 3 boys (for millions of dollars I am sure) Duke simply took that money right from the endowment and gave it to the boys. So the Alumni and donors had to make the boys whole because of the "gang of 88" none of whom regret their actions. If you are a Duke alumni do you ever donate a penny ever again?
13:50 Disbarring him isn't anywhere close to an adequate punishment. He should spend the next 20 years cooling his heels in prison, and then end his life starving on the streets as a pariah. He attacked not only the falsely accused victims, but our entire justice system, and he did it for personal gain in the full knowledge that he was committing fraud.
He purposely withheld evidence proving all the boys innocent. All in order to advance his career and please the leftwing. He was fine sending boys he knew were 100% innocent to long prison sentences.
Marxists have already infiltrated the legal system. It's legal ethics, but dumbed down. The fact that we're having this discussion means we've been dumbed down. No sane and intelligent person would argue against due process.
There was no statement from Duke Law at the time supporting the Duke players or questioning the ridiculous claims of the accuser. The Durham police knew from the beginning that the accusation was BS but Nifong proceeded anyway.
You are sadly correct. We have innocent until proven guilty, except for man-on-woman rape accusations. My family once asked why I'm single and don't have any children. They are Leftists, so every argument I made was met with sarcasm, passive-aggressiveness and intellectually dishonest claims such as the intentional gender wage gap, straight white male privilege and critical race theory. Leftists cannot have debates without those tools.
@d R This whole video is all EVIDENCE OF FAILURE. What assumptions are you talking about? Own it. Take responsibility for sucking, adjust, move on. You are just back pedalling again...
Lawyers making sure that their colleague escapes any meaningful punishment. Besides, there wasn’t someone to bleed dry financially. Nothing to see here concerning Duke University.
Ethics lesson? Word? Aren't 50 or so of the Group of 88 still associated with Duke? None of whom apologized for contributing to the Lacrosse team? I understand that only one member of the Duke Law program was part of the 88, however its kind of dense.
This incident is branded into the collective consciousnesses , for centuries to come when people think of Duke University they will think about the ethically bankrupt gang of 88.
They need to watch their back on just about ANY college campus. I have a middle-school-aged son whose intellect and subject interests strongly point to him heading to college after high school. The wife and I are already strategizing about how to keep him out of legal and disciplinary trouble while there. Our first piece of advice is going to be this: do NOT date a fellow student -- get yourself a non-student girlfriend off campus instead.
13:01 “It’s now the Nifong ethics case!” I can’t believe he said that. You don’t have to lecture in ethics to know that Duke has a lot to answer for here, that’s why it had to pay $60,000,000.00 in compensation to the falsely accused students. Duke bullied these young men, forgot about due process, and 88 staff signed a document that helped pervert the course of justice. This should have been a 60 minute long sincere apology to the wrongly accused and their families, instead all wrongdoing was thrust upon Nifong.
People (mainly liberals, but also people like Nancy Grace) who rushed to judgement on this case were so eager to push it out of the public eye that they failed to ask Law And Order Conservatives which of the following scenarios was more likely: 1: That NiFong had never deliberately railroaded an innocent person in his entire career before now, and decided to start with defendants who could afford lawyers capable of mounting a very vigorous defense (cue Tony Stark: "Not a good plan."). 2: That NiFong had gotten so used to railroading poor people in his district (including a large percentage of poor black defendants) that he forgot that it's not so easy to do when your intended victim can afford a good lawyer. I can't help but think that a good opportunity to get bipartisan support for more accountability for prosecutors was wasted.
Good comment (well mostly) but please stop bashing “Liberals” … I amend a Proud Leftist/Liberal but detest false allegations and how this was handled. It is wrong of you to generalize and scoop us all into one category! That is inaccurate!
@@derp8575 Except if polygraphs are a joke, the results wouldn’t prove a thing. So yes, they were right to avoid a superstitious-like polygraph. Also, what “fact”?
@@b4u334 Yet they are still used in interrogation rooms. The science is simple: I ask you to tell a lie and we see how it reacts. I ask you to tell the truth and we see how it reacts. Guaranteed you could not fool a polygraph. Let's arrange a test on RUclips for everyone to see. You will agree to this test, right?
I don't think that Duke University has any right to talk about the ethics in this case based on how they acted...
Pension and re-election. That WAS Nifong's motive.
Nifong knew the boys were innocent. He knew that from the moment he talked to the stripper. That wasn't the issue. The issue was that Nifong's job was a political one, he was ELECTED to his job. And he was up for re-election. And he assumed (perhaps correctly) that the black community would have voted him out of office (and out of a job) if he didn't charge 3 white boys that he knew were innocent. So he charged them, he was re-elected in November of 2006, that doubles his pension, and then in early 2007, it was all exposed as a fraud.
Really what this boils down to is the ignorance of voters in a Republic and financial compensation for elected officials based on tenure to elected service. That was it.
@@brianb1888 And they ALSO had tenure so they didn't have to worry about THEIR jobs. That was just them being #woke way too early. As far as I know only one of the "gang of 88" agreed to answer a question after they boys were found innocent. He said something along the lines of the "principle of the matter" is what mattered. The rest avoided the media. To this day they still avoid the media.
The people who really should be angry about this are the Duke Alumni. They donate millions to the endowment, millions. And when Duke settled out of court to the 3 boys (for millions of dollars I am sure) Duke simply took that money right from the endowment and gave it to the boys. So the Alumni and donors had to make the boys whole because of the "gang of 88" none of whom regret their actions.
If you are a Duke alumni do you ever donate a penny ever again?
they wanna teach Ethics, yet didn't fire Professors who clearly displayed they have none.
@@paulcolburn3855 gutless liars.
Duke and Ethics Lessons. Is this the name of a comedy routine?
13:50 Disbarring him isn't anywhere close to an adequate punishment. He should spend the next 20 years cooling his heels in prison, and then end his life starving on the streets as a pariah. He attacked not only the falsely accused victims, but our entire justice system, and he did it for personal gain in the full knowledge that he was committing fraud.
He purposely withheld evidence proving all the boys innocent. All in order to advance his career and please the leftwing. He was fine sending boys he knew were 100% innocent to long prison sentences.
Legal ethics at Duke ? In Durham ? YGBSM !!!!!
Marxists have already infiltrated the legal system. It's legal ethics, but dumbed down. The fact that we're having this discussion means we've been dumbed down. No sane and intelligent person would argue against due process.
There was no statement from Duke Law at the time supporting the Duke players or questioning the ridiculous claims of the accuser. The Durham police knew from the beginning that the accusation was BS but Nifong proceeded anyway.
Ethics Lessons Learned in the Duke Lacrosse Case: None.
A generation ago. Not relevant now. Anyone else here now upset like I am ? We don't have innocent until proven guilty now in 2020. Right??
You are sadly correct. We have innocent until proven guilty, except for man-on-woman rape accusations. My family once asked why I'm single and don't have any children. They are Leftists, so every argument I made was met with sarcasm, passive-aggressiveness and intellectually dishonest claims such as the intentional gender wage gap, straight white male privilege and critical race theory. Leftists cannot have debates without those tools.
Were any of the speakers one of the 88 who signed the ridiculous document?
"Learned" ??? It's worse now.
Look no further than the BYU alleged racial slur.
I'm surprised that there are still letting people comment on this sham, insane, and disgusting piece of American jurisprudence history.
Why are you all so cheerful? Whats funny about your failures as an organisation?
Where is the Duke Law panel's indictment of the Duke Faculty 88 who convicted the Duke Lacrosse with absolutely NO evidence.....?
@d R This whole video is all EVIDENCE OF FAILURE. What assumptions are you talking about? Own it. Take responsibility for sucking, adjust, move on. You are just back pedalling again...
Lawyers making sure that their colleague escapes any meaningful punishment. Besides, there wasn’t someone to bleed dry financially. Nothing to see here concerning Duke University.
Ethics lesson? Word? Aren't 50 or so of the Group of 88 still associated with Duke? None of whom apologized for contributing to the Lacrosse team?
I understand that only one member of the Duke Law program was part of the 88, however its kind of dense.
EVEN CRYSTAL GAIL MAGNUM'S STRIPPER PARTNER CALLED HER A LIAR.
The lesson is simple investigate fully then lay charges if there are any to go forward with.
This incident is branded into the collective consciousnesses , for centuries to come when people think of Duke University they will think about the ethically bankrupt gang of 88.
That gang of 88 needs to be bankrupt and homeless. If I were one of the kids I’d have sued each and every one of them into oblivion.
Did lawyers learn anything? NO! They didn’t!
Young Men should never attend Duke University. Never.
They need to watch their back on just about ANY college campus. I have a middle-school-aged son whose intellect and subject interests strongly point to him heading to college after high school. The wife and I are already strategizing about how to keep him out of legal and disciplinary trouble while there. Our first piece of advice is going to be this: do NOT date a fellow student -- get yourself a non-student girlfriend off campus instead.
One thing I'm for sure: I will NEVER send my kids to study at Duke University, even if they get a full scholarship.
*LESSONS LEARNED, LOOK FOR EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIMS, EASY AS THAT.*
Don't jump to conclusions. People lie.
13:01 “It’s now the Nifong ethics case!” I can’t believe he said that. You don’t have to lecture in ethics to know that Duke has a lot to answer for here, that’s why it had to pay $60,000,000.00 in compensation to the falsely accused students. Duke bullied these young men, forgot about due process, and 88 staff signed a document that helped pervert the course of justice. This should have been a 60 minute long sincere apology to the wrongly accused and their families, instead all wrongdoing was thrust upon Nifong.
Shameless duke’s professors, it’s sickening !!
I suspect they learned nothing. No matter what any of these people say.
It's obvious just listening to these people that they haven't actually learned anything
For ten years I have known duke is shyte, I have spread the word against duke for that long, and will continue.
People (mainly liberals, but also people like Nancy Grace) who rushed to judgement on this case were so eager to push it out of the public eye that they failed to ask Law And Order Conservatives which of the following scenarios was more likely:
1: That NiFong had never deliberately railroaded an innocent person in his entire career before now, and decided to start with defendants who could afford lawyers capable of mounting a very vigorous defense (cue Tony Stark: "Not a good plan.").
2: That NiFong had gotten so used to railroading poor people in his district (including a large percentage of poor black defendants) that he forgot that it's not so easy to do when your intended victim can afford a good lawyer.
I can't help but think that a good opportunity to get bipartisan support for more accountability for prosecutors was wasted.
Good comment (well mostly) but please stop bashing “Liberals” … I amend a Proud Leftist/Liberal but detest false allegations and how this was handled. It is wrong of you to generalize and scoop us all into one category! That is inaccurate!
THERE ARE MORE MIKE NIFONGS IN OUR WORLD.
What we owe know why so many modern colleges are students are magory young white women!
Duke is actually patting itself on the back?!?!?!?!? What a joke!!!!
How many times can this guy take off and put on his glasses? Unnerving
Why didn't the players insist on a polygraph on day one ? They offered, the cops said no. Big mistake.
Polygraphs are a joke
@@b4u334 That doesn't invalidate his fact.
@@derp8575 Except if polygraphs are a joke, the results wouldn’t prove a thing. So yes, they were right to avoid a superstitious-like polygraph.
Also, what “fact”?
@@b4u334 Yet they are still used in interrogation rooms. The science is simple: I ask you to tell a lie and we see how it reacts. I ask you to tell the truth and we see how it reacts. Guaranteed you could not fool a polygraph. Let's arrange a test on RUclips for everyone to see. You will agree to this test, right?
@@derp8575 Nope. They’re inaccurate and there are studies that demonstrate this.
Don''t have the 1st amendment anymore, chump.