I bought a GIANT CNC Machine for building Guitars. What do you think?

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  • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
    @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +11

    The first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/crimsoncustomguitars08211

    • @kaptainkmann7808
      @kaptainkmann7808 3 года назад +3

      Hopefully you already know this but just in case it was overlooked , Make sure you have an air chiller inline on that air compressor . they pull moisture out of the air so having one before the air enters the machine will save the seals in the entire system. As you can imagine having to replace all the seals in a machine like this is both costly and time consuming . also all air lines running off it should not be metal , this corrodes and bit's of it can end up in the system causing problem's you don't need. As the saying goes , an once of prevention... well you know the rest. ✌😎👍 if you don't have one already i would suggest draining the tank before and after each shift. this may sound like a little bit of overkill but with items with values like this , I'd rather be ahead of the curve than behind. LOL also keeping the compressor in a room that stays cool will help to not overwork the chiller itself. Ok I'm done LOL sorry so long but i thought it was all worth making sure you are aware of the issues.

    • @MarcinOfTheNuclearVillage
      @MarcinOfTheNuclearVillage 3 года назад

      Just started CNC programming course. Cool stuff!

    • @HMan2828
      @HMan2828 3 года назад

      I got a design I made in sketchup for a flat top semi hollow neck through, LP-body with inset top ready to go if you want to test your machine. I'll give Crimson Guitars the rights to it if you send one to me... :)

  • @ewal8556
    @ewal8556 3 года назад +75

    If it means there’s the possibility of owning a Crimson Guitar at a price I could afford I am all for it. You guys would still be doing the hard work of finish set up etc.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +35

      That is the plan.

    • @andrewbarker9773
      @andrewbarker9773 3 года назад +2

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars what percentage of savings are you aiming for Ben?

    • @stephenmcmillan2817
      @stephenmcmillan2817 3 года назад +3

      @Washing Up Liquid For something like a custom guitar I would imagine the price is largely determined by the time spent making it. If this means they can make many more guitars in the same time frame then they can sell more guitars at a cheaper price each but still make more money.

    • @yazdan7774
      @yazdan7774 3 года назад

      the CNC does the absolute hard work , the only thing left is a lil bit of sanding, putting the frets in place,installing the hardware, and if they want to they can paint it too.

    • @jamesdereybekill755
      @jamesdereybekill755 3 года назад

      agreed

  • @frantiseksram9741
    @frantiseksram9741 3 года назад +19

    Excellent! I'm ex CNC programmer, now full time CAD Engineer. You have things to learn and overcome, from what I have seen in this vid, but you can't deny how amazing these CAD and CNC tools are. From there, you will get faster, more precise, effective, and with 4th or 5th axis, you can start to be really creative, and sky is the limit...

  • @frankcarter6427
    @frankcarter6427 3 года назад +15

    that lad's ace, committed, bright and aware of what the future requires as we oldies watch in awe. I used to love that my Yairi is handmade, but CNC is clearly the future

    • @podfuk
      @podfuk 3 года назад +1

      I have CNC made PRS Cu 22 and its absolutely flawless, I love it and I admire its perfection. I also own handmade Yamaha FGX5 and there are small blemishes, uneaven neck carve, slightly warped sides, but I lovet too, because its hand made by skilled master luthier with all flaws that come with it ;) At the end it doesnt matter IMHO I love both!

  • @timsmoot5141
    @timsmoot5141 3 года назад +25

    I'm amazed at the negative comments. I've watched every video that Ben has put out since he started. The luthier in him hasn't changed. He still crafts guitars in the same uncompromising way he always has, which you can buy, if you can afford a hand made custom guitar. If not, what about a first class production guitar, assembled, finished and set up by skilled people with an emphasis on quality control? Ben, keep doing what you do, we'll be along for the ride!

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +2

      Thank you Tim! B

    • @michaelsimpson398
      @michaelsimpson398 3 года назад

      yup cnc is part of the business I say good luck to them and hope they turn out a fantastic product and tools and take on some of the old names in guitars

    • @seeker7774
      @seeker7774 2 года назад

      My father is an old school master wood wright. He grew up in his father’s cabinet shop. I once watched him repair a 600 year old banquet table with a multi-lam multi-wood starburst inlay that was nearly the size of the table. When he was finished you could not tell half of the top had been damaged in a flood. Once, when I was young and stupid, I made a snide comment about guitars made on a CNC machine. He quickly told me he would use a CNC if he could afford one, and added that I needed to get my head out of my ass. Needless to say, I had a quick rethink about my stance on CNC machines.

  • @justinneece2110
    @justinneece2110 3 года назад +18

    Hey Ben just a friendly tip being a machinist for 10 years now with the CNC mill with MAZAK after using a steel mill weekly you may want to WD the table and the colic and tool As well as the covers on the X and y and z access

  • @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung
    @Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 3 года назад +3

    Made my day seeing the new machine
    I’m picking up my first CNC machine next week solely for guitar building .
    Looking forward to seeing how that big monster fairs over the next few months .
    Sam should do some CNC RUclips lessons for us all.

  • @Hawkeyepenny
    @Hawkeyepenny 3 года назад +8

    I remember your early videos that you said it'll not be cnc'ed
    And here we are Haha.
    I'm happy for you and to watch you grow over the many years.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +1

      I was so very narrow minded back then, and thank-you 😀

    • @martrocksnuts
      @martrocksnuts 3 года назад +1

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars it's not so much narrow mindedness dude, your circumstances are significantly bigger now; if Crimson was still you in your shed you'd probably still not see the point in them. This massive new toy is your reward for levelling up your business ;)

  • @1971silversurfer
    @1971silversurfer 3 года назад +18

    A great addition to the workshop, looking forward to seeing what this machine can produce; an affordable CNC British guitar is a great goal to have.

  • @MrStoneheart65
    @MrStoneheart65 3 года назад +1

    @Crimson Custom Guitars
    Congrats on your new machine ! From my experience working with CNC at TigerLuv Guitars and making the 3D models, my little secret is to add a really little round (0.2-0.5mm) at the edges of the neck pocket, where the body meets the neck.
    Because cutting the neck pocket in the video left some material at those edges at 26:27, and this is prone to chipping. Adding a small radius on the model at those edges allow you to get a cleaner cut and avoiding unaestetic chipping !
    My small grain of sand for what it's worth !

  • @m.a.bushling
    @m.a.bushling 3 года назад +3

    it's amazing how quickly "never" comes and goes. Love the new tool, looking forward to seeing what all you do with it!

  • @maniegrove2681
    @maniegrove2681 3 года назад

    Congratulations Ben! Best wishes from South Africa.

  • @rsfields2009
    @rsfields2009 3 года назад +9

    I fully expected you to have a large compressor in a separate, sound proofed room that is piped across the building.
    Seeing that small jobsite compressor gives me hope for my meager operation.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +10

      Turns out our big one can't cope with both the cnc and our spray booth, it does need to be put in a box or moved outside for damn sure! And.. tbh.. this whole thing started as my own 'meagre operation' in a shed at home.. you have time my friend!

    • @charlespiper2439
      @charlespiper2439 3 года назад +2

      As a safety professional, I was going to strongly suggest 😁 enclosing it or moving it outside.

    • @charlespiper2439
      @charlespiper2439 3 года назад +1

      @@JohnB1956 no worries. Great to see new things happening at Crimson. Bucket list is to take a class at some point. Ben always puts ideas in my head and I do not have the skills (yet!) To get them to fruition.

  • @TheDavidb138
    @TheDavidb138 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic to see this. Been a machinist making aerospace parts for about ten years. The scope to make components of all sizes starts here. Love crimsons products and this is brilliant news.

  • @bulith86
    @bulith86 2 года назад

    Was a good fun to deliver and install this Bridgeport in your workshop 😀.

  • @iansmeath8674
    @iansmeath8674 3 года назад +2

    Great choice of machine and even better with the Heidenhain controller! I used to program and run CNCs before I retired. A CNC is a tool like any other.... Never say never Ben.

  • @luthiferbuilds
    @luthiferbuilds 3 года назад +3

    I cant wait to have a crimson guitar in my possession! I dont care if a Robot helped make it, I know the level of pride and dedication that goes into Everything Crimson so a discount on one of their Axes would be amazing!

  • @johnking3863
    @johnking3863 3 года назад +6

    You’ve come a long way from that garden shed, long may it continue.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +2

      We really really have.. and I still adore using hand tools and my home workshop.. this does bring so many more options to the game.

  • @codydaniel3097
    @codydaniel3097 3 года назад +1

    I think that now that you've refined your craft the old school way, you have the flow of your formulas solidified enough to get a CNC machine. I think it's very cool that y'all expanded this way when it happened. I say it's a great purr-chase indeed!! May it serve y'all well! \m/

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад

      Thank you Cody.. I am very much looking forward to seeing what we can do with this beautiful thing!

  • @John-hi2yi
    @John-hi2yi 3 года назад +1

    No problems for me, I think it’s a great addition to your tools. I wish you even more success, great video.

  • @dustykatt
    @dustykatt 3 года назад

    Being a CNC programer and machine operator an a cigar box guitar builder, this episode speaks to my soul.

  • @ricandes
    @ricandes 3 года назад

    I do enjoy watching this type of video. I have spent many hours watching videos of all kinds of automated tools working. My best friend, before he retired, worked with giant cnc machines in Vancouver Canada making parts for Boeing. I, in my job, work in the food manufacturing industry and work with robots, so I do find this stuff fascinating. Love the channel, and have been a long time subscriber. Keep up the good work.

  • @j.dietrich
    @j.dietrich 3 года назад +5

    I'd strongly recommend looking into vacuum workholding. There's a little bit of a learning curve, but being able to hold a part on one face is a game-changer.
    Also, take a look at Flex Trim sanding heads and Hiteco aggregate heads - with the right tooling, you can do some or all of your sanding on the CNC mill.

  • @Xarthis
    @Xarthis 3 года назад +14

    will you also be adding 3D scanning tech? So you can create CNC replicas of handcarved guitarts? (Hint: 12 Hour production model / kit) This would keep your artisanal side relevant to the production side.

    • @shooteroffuture
      @shooteroffuture 3 года назад

      I could CAD any guitar involved geometry within a day. All it needs is splines for multiple positions and understanding on how to creat lofts of multiple equidistant sketches to recreate a geometry like a hand carved neck, excluding any inconsistencies bound to come from a 3d scan. And I’m not even a CAD technician, I’m an engineer. All you need is a Vermeer caliper really. So I wouldn’t worry about that. That being said, the idea of reverse engineering handcrafted items is a great one for Crimson!

    • @user-vv1do1wg1j
      @user-vv1do1wg1j 3 года назад

      @@shooteroffuture 👍

  • @patriklundin4314
    @patriklundin4314 3 года назад +2

    Looks fun. Keep that guy. He seams like a great guy to have as an employee.

  • @benbixel3252
    @benbixel3252 2 года назад

    Awesome for you guys!!!!! I am a cnc guy. Please consider setting up more than one piece at a time. Looks like at least two guitar bodies will fit at one time. (G54) (G55) Twice cycle time so you can work on something else while running. Very happy for you and your business.

  • @tedvanmatje
    @tedvanmatje 3 года назад +1

    Congratulations on your new 'toy' Ben! This is going to open so many new possibilities and marketing areas for Crimson.
    Ref. the poly-carbonate sheeting: it's used in many large lcd television display panels. Before I scrap the TVs in my workshop, I always take the sheets out. Not sure if they are as strong as the safety regs require, but worth looking at man.
    There's many a day when I wish I was a couple of years younger and had the time to learn the trade of building Guitars.....maybe in the next lifetime :)
    Rock on and thanks for posting!

  • @decomputerleraarable
    @decomputerleraarable 3 года назад +8

    So, I expect that the basic models and especially the kits will now become considerably cheaper! Or not?! Am I wrong? Rob

    • @davedupuis2069
      @davedupuis2069 3 года назад +1

      I'm sure it just means their profit margins will increase (after the capital layout is repaid)

  • @Jim-qc4nb
    @Jim-qc4nb 3 года назад

    Cool. Very cool. I'm a production manager for a heavy equipment manufacturer in the US so this is pretty stimulating. I have a small CNC in my personal shop at home for repeatability and time consuming stuff. It's been a fun challenge to learn. Really loved seeing the growth over the years, Ben!! Thanks for all the content. Cheers!

  • @raymonduncad1333
    @raymonduncad1333 3 года назад +1

    solidworks is great... its very intuitive... your gonna love it... it can simulate many materials including woods...

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 3 года назад +1

    I am in awe of that machine, my Shapeoko Pro took 40 mins to cut a body and I was going a tad fast, as at that speed I got chatter at the end grain so when I do another a 10% reduction in speed and feed would be better, I love the tool changer, I am saving up to build one for my 3D printer so I can use multicolour and multi-material.
    I hope you start to make some hardware in the future as I would love some Crimson machine heads and a bridge!

  • @craigduffy3326
    @craigduffy3326 3 года назад

    Awesome news for you guys, nice to see a good business do well :)

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад

      Thank you so much. Fingers crossed she stays as fun to work with as the oast few weeks have been.

  • @davanders2006
    @davanders2006 3 года назад

    If I had the space I would love to have a CNC machine myself. That is a steal of a price for that machine. You now own something involved in making outer space history. Lucky dog
    Thanks for sharing

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 3 года назад +2

    Very Nice Buy Ben. Very nice Bridgeport you got there. Great Company to work with. To CNC Engineering,when doing milling like Guitar Bodies put in vise 1 Vise 2 then you Can Mill Two bodies the Same Time this will up in milling and Setup time . I ran large CNC which I design to put Four 20” Steel frames and hit Go and Wait. To Ben. Hook up with Bridgeport a design a CNC machine Center for Guitar Making. Ben Welcome to Machines World your Job may be on The Chopping Block. hehehehehe. Greg from the States

  • @savethedandelions
    @savethedandelions 3 года назад

    congrats on crimson's continued and well deserved growth!

  • @tenntonnhammer
    @tenntonnhammer 3 года назад +1

    Hey I'm a machinist here in the US, I love your videos. I don't know if you have an air dryer for your machine but if you dont you might want to get one. It goes between the compressor and your cnc. The moisture that comes from the compressor over time can cause issues with your machine and if you're using the air hose from the machine to blow your parts off, water can come through that line also and get all over your freshly made parts. If you already have one then nevermind.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +1

      I will check with Sam what the plans are with this, we have a dryer on the other compressor but I'm not sure about this one.. it will need to be done though if not for sure, I don't want moisture inside this baby if I can help it!

  • @wsweeneyggbo2127
    @wsweeneyggbo2127 3 года назад

    Hi Guys, I am a hobby builder and used what is one of the smallest CNC machines (300mmx180mm Bed) for my guitar project. I was able to CAD design my guitar shape and make the templates for the body and neck all be it in multiple parts one point of note is the accuracy of CAD meant the fretboard slots, inlays etc and body shape, were exactly as planned. The software is powerful and can all be found free to use. CNC is not easy!!! it just requires a different skill set no less taxing than traditional techniques but design wise opens up a whole new world where you can design and tweak before you commit to cutting that expensive piece of wood. Love the moving forward Ben, CNC is a step change to affordable high quality. if you go back in history radio became popular when you could mass produce the case from plastic instead of time consuming expensive wooden cabinets. if you interest has been tweaked Inkscape is a good CAD Programme for design and you can print out a paper template........ sorry if I sound like I am pontificating but I have loved discovering CAD/CAM/CNC

  • @jonlavigne3270
    @jonlavigne3270 3 года назад +1

    This is great! Stepping up the production time and effort without compromising quality. Also, it might be fun to use "mistakes" as a jumping off point for creativity.

  • @daveredfern8258
    @daveredfern8258 3 года назад

    Honestly is always the best policy Ben. Go for it bro . Love ya guts. Dave , from Australia.

  • @DonNicolson
    @DonNicolson 3 года назад

    Keep hold of Sam Ben he is the epitome of a valued member of staff, he is awesome in front of camera. He is actually truly excited about something he doesn’t own but he is still invested in it, also he knows his stuff and can explain things precisely. Loving the new Beast of a cnc and personally I think once any business grows dependence on tech is normal. Happy building sir 😀

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +2

      dependence on tech and on great staff.. Sam is a luthier first and foremost, started with us as an apprentice having built one guitar a few years ago.. and is such an awesome chap that he is now 2nd in command of the whole company under Tom who is the MD.. (and Tom was an apprentice from much much earlier) I have a great team running things for me and I just get to make the odd decision and play in my shed! WooHoo! B

  • @jimbecker5675
    @jimbecker5675 3 года назад +1

    For the average maker, a CNC provides two bit benefits, IMHO...takes care of a chunk of the drudgery work so more time and care can be taken with the "finesse" work and something I really enjoy...the ability to design and cut virtually without wasting even scrap material while exploring ideas and concepts. Perhaps you'll someday get a smaller machine for your own explorations...I highly recommend it. My CNC is actually the reason why I'm playing with building guitars...it was a way to explore something new for me. I can't play the darn things, but I'm enjoying the journing of making a few of them.
    For a commercial guitar operation...it scales production considerably, again for the drudgery so the skilled workers can focus on what they do the best. That's quite a beast you bought for the business!!!!

  • @diarmaidok
    @diarmaidok 3 года назад

    That Bridgeport is a beast of a machine, I wish you good health to enjoy it.

  • @allynbarnes702
    @allynbarnes702 3 года назад

    Way to go Ben.
    I was playing, well, operating / programming a similar 3 axis machine about the time Sam was staring school.
    Ahh, the good old days.
    Was making aluminum and / or resin molds for a thermoforming company.
    Wish i could be there with you Sam.

  • @rossettivictor
    @rossettivictor 3 года назад +2

    I'm sure that CNC would open new possibilities for your guitar kits. More options, maybe even better prices, given the repeatability and lowered costs. It doesn't take anything from your artistry, it's just a new tool to master and to help you create wonderful things.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +5

      Better prices is a big one for me. Fingers crossed we can improve that side of things quite quickly while also improving quality!

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle 3 года назад

    Good to see Crimson moving forward by adopting more tools and techniques as it grows ...
    Repeatability is so important, as are Quality Standards, so machines and tools that enable these are so important to use. They do not undermine the importance of the Luthier aspects, but rather complement them to help Customers and Workers.
    The naysayers should consider whether they will be abandoning the range of Electric Drills, Routers, Grinders, Planers, etc, etc. These, like CNC, are all just tools to assist the workman in doing the job, not only faster, but better also ...
    As the cost of such expensive and capable machinery becomes amortised over higher production, this provides real opportunity to reduce prices, whilst simultaneously improving quality and consistency.
    It'll be fascinating to see where this investment leads, including possible production of hardware amongst other things.
    Great vid.

  • @rickbaker4571
    @rickbaker4571 3 года назад +2

    The kit builds will have better fit... this is going to be great for everyone at Crimson!!

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +2

      We don't have an issue with fit even with the older machines, it just takes so much longer to machine them out and don't get the same level of final finish due to time constraints tbh. However, yes.. it will be a great thing for us, I am very excited!

    • @rickbaker4571
      @rickbaker4571 3 года назад

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars yeah, good point... if you are "hand finishing" those kits as well (and I'm sure some work is done there) the fit would be comparable, just speeds up the process. Sounds good!!! Congrats on that beast!!

  • @Heavygusto
    @Heavygusto 3 года назад

    Excellent video and the passion bleeds through.

  • @rogersj3
    @rogersj3 3 года назад

    Take a look at California Air Tools for very quiet compressors. If you can, a bigger tank size would be a good idea as well so that the compressor need not kick on so frequently.

  • @howardperlin3016
    @howardperlin3016 2 года назад

    I felt the same way with computer illustration software. And now I do all my art on an iPad Pro. So I see I’m not the only stubborn creative out there.

  • @pitaorj
    @pitaorj 3 года назад

    As you said: it´s a tool, what it really matters is the quality of the final product. I don`t care if it was made by cnc, hand or materialized from the ether. if it sounds good, it is GOOD!!! Great work Ben and success!

  • @weixianng
    @weixianng 3 года назад

    I'm so happy that Crimson Guitars has come such a long way to have been able to make such an investment!

  • @garrobond0017
    @garrobond0017 3 года назад

    Keep the conveyor to collect the wood shavings then be easier to collect and tip into a skip. Shavings for your chickens. On the cycle put Mos in the program to blow swarf away. Turn feed to 100 not 150 percent be smother cut.
    Keep up the good work, ( I work in performance breaking CNC machining)

  • @richbutters2106
    @richbutters2106 3 года назад

    That's a monster machine. I have a German made Heinze s720 which is excellent and will in the future be using it to make guitars. Keep up the great work

  • @claudevieaul1465
    @claudevieaul1465 3 года назад

    Of course there's the option of lower kit prices, but CNC is all about accuracy and repeatability with finer edges than for instance a bandsaw can deliver.
    Makes sense to keep prices as they were and just enjoy the increased output - if only to partially cover the cost of that CNC router :)
    As an aside, I used to program CNC gear back in the 80s. Moved on to CAD and 3D design and engineering.
    Don't worry about eating your words from way back when - seeing you discover their uses and efficiency first hand, and your reaction, is a great joy - it mirrors my own experiences 😀👍

  • @Craftlngo
    @Craftlngo 3 года назад

    Congratulation for your newest gadget! Getting a CNC with a Heidenhain Control was a good choice!

  • @bobvines00
    @bobvines00 3 года назад

    Ben, how will you keep the wood dust, etc., out of the critical parts of the machine that _must_ be oiled? What is the current condition of the seals in the working envelope of the machine? I.e., how much do they leak after nearly 20 years of aerospace manufacturing? I have to ask because I worked my entire professional life as a Mechanical Engineer for an aerospace facility, and part of the time as a "Process Engineer" (i.s., support Engineer) for our largest machine shop (one of many) and saw many machines torn down because the aluminum & steel chips getting under the wipers & seals and badly damaging the ways. This caused leaks, which didn't really matter that much to us, but the machine's lubricating _oils_ won't mix well with abrasive wood chips & dust. Be careful of high pressure air blowing wood debris under the wipers & seals too, so I assume that you'll need to regulate the "blow-off" air to the minimum that will work. Once you get this machine running in top shape, you'll love what it can do and will probably find it difficult to keep adding some jobs off of it so that your employees don't become simple "button pushers" instead of skilled Luthiers/Machinists, etc. Unfortunately, many of our Machinists became button-pushers once they started running the CNC machines. :(
    I look forward to seeing what you do with this machine!

  • @stevedimebag
    @stevedimebag 3 года назад

    Great to see your business growing!

  • @jaytpattinson
    @jaytpattinson 3 года назад

    Looking good fellas. Keep marching forwards!
    ✌️from NZ

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад

      incremental improvements with the odd giant leap forward is how it goes, and thanks :) Will do. B

  • @cheapskate8656
    @cheapskate8656 3 года назад

    Given that most people seem to want a clone guitar "but its a slightly different colour man". A CNC machine makes perfect sense for a business that needs to produce a lot of the same thing. Congrats, its great to see your business growing. If it also allows you to continue hand making your creative custom guitars, all the better :)

  • @marinoagallo
    @marinoagallo 3 года назад

    brilliant stuff, thanks! I’m just getting into CNC and look forward to your future posts on this aspect of your craft …

  • @RobSchweitzer
    @RobSchweitzer 3 года назад +8

    I appreciate you guys being open and honest about wearing masks around the shop. We're only still in this mess as bad as we are because of how many idiots refuse to take it seriously.
    regarding the CNC, there's definitely a place for it in modern shops. I used to be anti-CNC, but the more things I build and sell the more I realize I'll probably end up eating my words some day much like you! :)

  • @alanburgess3453
    @alanburgess3453 3 года назад

    We are fast approaching the age when 'hand-made' means that some hands have been used to press some keys on some keyboards. Maybe it could include that maybe some hands were used to put pieces of wood in a machine. No, I forgot, that will be automated too. Technology in pursuit of speed with accuracy. Ben, it'll soon be time to put all your metal tools in the scrap metal bin at the local recycling centre.
    I jest, of course, good luck with the next phase of Computerised Nohandtooled Cutting.

  • @wasky1
    @wasky1 3 года назад +1

    those fretboards look glorious

  • @brynjones7371
    @brynjones7371 3 года назад +1

    Super decision. Made my company successful from struggling. I'm retired now since 2007, would've been unemployed in 1995 without CNC.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +1

      I'm glad you were able to make the jump too.. it always depresses me when I hear of businesses failing.

  • @flucazade
    @flucazade 3 года назад

    CNC production... the Crimson budget model coming this Xmas

  • @HardRockWorkshop
    @HardRockWorkshop 3 года назад

    Superb machine Ben, I used to have a VMC 460 in my toolmaking business many years ago - great piece of kit !!

  • @GreyMatterStew
    @GreyMatterStew 3 года назад +1

    I'm guessing you've heard that saying about surrounding yourself with good people because that young man is quite obviously good people. Everyone should have a Sam.

  • @ianhumphrey7218
    @ianhumphrey7218 3 года назад

    I'm not sure who is more excited by this new CNC, Ben or Sam? It is good to see that Crimson has people who are as enthusiastic about what they do as Ben, very pleasing to see.

  • @ianthomson9363
    @ianthomson9363 3 года назад

    Congratulations on the new tool! I don't think it's any different from going from, say, a hand drill to an electric drill- it's merely a way to get things done more efficiently and though CNC setups can do amazing things (I can't wait to see some custom guitars come out of this one), there will always be a place for the traditional methods. Have fun with it! And, of course, make LOTS of sawdust!

  • @beatfinkbeiner7499
    @beatfinkbeiner7499 3 года назад

    WOOOOOW! What a machine! Now we talk! You are prepared for expanding future:-) Super purchase!
    I personally purchased a 3D printer from Formlabs. Its an amazing way for designing my own ideas as products!

  • @iggysixx
    @iggysixx 3 года назад

    Solution for the NOISE;
    You can VERY cheaply make a noise suppression CABINET / enclosure to go around the compressor!
    From some beefy MDF, rubber mats, insulation.
    The air / ventilation channels can have a noise dampening structure (kind of polar opposite to those fancy subwoofer enclosures that amplify the bass)
    There are some very good tutorials on RUclips!
    The noise does not have to stay :)

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад

      thank you Igor.. 1st will be to replace the compressor with a bigger and quieter one, then will be noise suppression etc.

  • @jaynbob42
    @jaynbob42 3 года назад +4

    Looks awesome. I’m jealous of your hand tools but this is next level lol.
    Btw, if you need to find a home for any of the test cuts, instead of the fire, I’d love the practise 😉

  • @fat_freddies_cat
    @fat_freddies_cat 3 года назад

    Ben, you certainly deserve the success of a growing business, and investing into a used CNC is definitely the way to go to continue this path. Implementing cnc will increase the output of kits by a multifold and also take care of quality consistency. On the other hand, I understand that a hand built guitar is at a completely different level of labour skill. But you know that yourself. Guess there will be cheaper Kits available soon and a custom shop with hand built guitars just as with fender. Just keep the production lines apart. Good luck.

  • @Dave73nl
    @Dave73nl 3 года назад

    Enjoyed it and good that youve bought it ;) Progress ;)

  • @watahyahknow
    @watahyahknow 3 года назад

    it being a metal cnc machine the wood dust might reap havoc on the oiled ways , might need to ocasionally take it apart to get all the caked oily wooddust out , the stuff might allso cause a fire hazard if it gets hot enough to combust
    as for the compressor : see intoo a screw type compressor , that should be enough to supply air for the whole shop and there silent (new price at hbm netherlands for a 15hp version is little under 3000 euro)
    with the bigger compressor you might allso be able to convert the coolant system to blow compressed air over the workpiece and blow away the swarf reducing the risk of a jam

  • @RetroPlus
    @RetroPlus 3 года назад

    Getting a big CNC machine like that is quite the milestone!

  • @MouldyGuitars
    @MouldyGuitars 3 года назад

    Nice machine!!. But my takeaway from the video was seeing (I think) that you cut the truss rod, then glue on fretboard blank and THEN cut the neck? and finally I assume do the fretboard profile etc. I like that idea as the neck and fretboard are machined as one :) Would even make the binding channel easy too as its all located in the blank and locating pins

  • @ricksrealpitbbq
    @ricksrealpitbbq 3 года назад

    I’m about 2/3 of the way through building my first guitar using a mix of hand tools and small power tools. Watching that tele body come to life in such a short time was both exciting and saddening at the same time. Using skills I’ve developed over a 45 year span as a woodworker and seeing how easily I can be replaced (with enough money of course) I’m very conflicted. I understand efficiency, I understand economics, I understand repeatability. What I’m having trouble with is the loss of the human factor being lost. The problem solving involved in understanding wood grain and structure to produce a piece of functional art so to speak. Coming to the realization that few people are willing to pay for the knowledge and skill required in producing custom or as you say bespoke work makes me feel as though all the countless hours that went into developing the skills I have amount to little more than a lost art. Not even sure where I’m going with all this. Congratulations on your new to you machinery. I’ve very much enjoyed most all of the videos you’ve produced. I do hope you’ll still keep as much of the human factor of creation alive.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад

      I don't think Ben will ever stop building custom hand made guitars. However, the business also makes guitar building tools, kit guitars and necks and affordable production guitars. DC

  • @PsychoticFlubber
    @PsychoticFlubber 3 года назад

    If that machine can reproduce fine wood cuts, consider expanding into the "True Temperament" fret system. I realize this may require a contract with the company that produces the frets, but this is something that's high demand and extremely hard to find. Perhaps a model including an EverTune bridge as well? Anyway, I look forward to seeing the progress this makes for your business!

  • @sunlightpictures8367
    @sunlightpictures8367 3 года назад

    Congratulations. I know the artistry will still be there but this device will allow you to up your game.

  • @ATCNC
    @ATCNC 3 года назад

    all looks well, Only thing i would say to look at is rapid feed rates are slower than your cutting feed rates, I know its nothing major but it would be an extra guitar a day difference
    keep up the great work guys

  • @10010110100102Error
    @10010110100102Error 3 года назад

    cnc is great, but you touching off the different tools seems a bit inconsistent. get a simple 3d probe, one wiht a simple dial like the haimers nyc cnc likes to use will suffice, and measure the tools and the probe externally. you just have to put their values in, since thisapears to be a heidenhein 530, you can do so extremely easily. the tool presetters don't cost a lot when used and will certainly be precise enough for most uses.
    are you planning on using sl-cycles to remove the material for the electric elements in the guitars?
    also, you can think about adding something ike a dust shoe like they're sold for smaller machine and cnc routers, the loose amterial increases wear on your tools unnecessarily even if it's just wood. for coolant, you should bea able to replace the facotry system with someting like a fog buster and only use some alcohol as lubricant when you are cutting metal, that way everything will easily evaporate and you won't have to clean too much when you return to wood from having fun with metals.

  • @_NoDrinkTheBleach
    @_NoDrinkTheBleach 3 года назад +2

    From a woodworking purist's view, I can understand the reluctance of 2013 Ben getting a CNC machine. From a practical view, I can understand the enthusiasm of 2021 Ben getting a CNC machine. They're an amazing tool for the tool kit, they're just not vintage. :)

    • @LRBerry
      @LRBerry 3 года назад +2

      One day they will be. Imagine Ben having this in the Vintage Tool shop.

    • @seansmit
      @seansmit 3 года назад +1

      It's an amazing thing, technology. It's almost vintage given its comparative age!

  • @PastelComGini
    @PastelComGini 3 года назад

    Great to know, this is really cool.
    Ben, since you're challenging biases, you could make a CNC machined oak guitar with a zero fret 😈 (and make it great). Not as a product, of course, more as a test.

  • @matthewstott3493
    @matthewstott3493 3 года назад

    It takes more work from scratch because of all the planning and evolution a CAD design will go through with prototyping a new design on the CNC machine but once you perfect it. Then you can crank out 10,000 parts just as easily as one and that is the whole point of a CNC machine.

  • @jimgraves4197
    @jimgraves4197 3 года назад +1

    Now you have that Bridgeport beast of a CNC you can make orders of magnitude more sawdust. This also leads me to wonder If Ben Crowe could actually build a guitar from sawdust?

  • @m.r.3128
    @m.r.3128 3 года назад

    One word for you man, Inventor ✌🏽🇦🇺

  • @thebiggerbyte5991
    @thebiggerbyte5991 3 года назад

    Super stuff. That machine is amazing, and opens many doors.

    • @IlBiggo
      @IlBiggo 3 года назад +1

      Not while running, hopefully :D

  • @DrRusty5
    @DrRusty5 3 года назад +1

    A tool is just that, but there is no doubt it is a tool that can assist creativity.

  • @kr46
    @kr46 3 года назад

    Have you got Kelly Jones working for you now Ben? No welsh accent and a bit taller but hey , its good to move forward and see businesses like yours keeping the country proud. also once I said I have enough Guitars and gear Hahahaha well we all know how that ends... great vid.

  • @theduftmeister
    @theduftmeister 3 года назад +1

    LMAO. I was expecting to see a router on some sort aluminium profile jig, running with CAD via a laptop. That monster looks like it belongs as an extra from the Buck Rogers film or something.
    Impressive though!!

  • @fueymanchoo1291
    @fueymanchoo1291 3 года назад

    Just some advice from someone that has programed and worked with CNC for many years in the woodworking industry. That air compressor you have needs to go. Upgrade it to a proper unit with a dryer. If you lose air during a cycle it can be catastrophic to the machine. You need a dryer as well or you will end up with some very expensive repairs.

  • @marka6414
    @marka6414 3 года назад

    Extremely accurate neck pockets and fret slots, what's not to like. Great move, hope it helps grow your business.

  • @martrocksnuts
    @martrocksnuts 3 года назад

    All hail our new robot overlords!!
    congrats on the growth of your business to the point that this colossal machine is required!
    the frantic tool makers must be especially stoked! ;)

  • @robertr4193
    @robertr4193 3 года назад

    Finishing Nebula 2.0 would have been nice to watch but this was interesting as well. Hopefully some day soon we will get to see nebula 2.0 finished.

  • @JohnnyGTar
    @JohnnyGTar 3 года назад

    It's a good thing you started the vid this way, I wanted to roast you since I saw the title but you beat me to it! Hope you can make more affortable stuff since you will save on work hours AND I hope you introduce cool new designs!

  • @seekersofrhythm
    @seekersofrhythm 3 года назад

    You took the words out of my mouth when you said price reduction to customer which is one of the primary benefit of multi tool cnc. The quantity without compromise on quality. I think there is no downside to this. This is going give you the means to develop prototype and produce the kind of instruments that you would have liked to but cost in hours for a skilled Luther on just the structure of the instrument where prohibited and that on its own is real vfm. I can't wait to see the challenges you will be giving the machine. Looking forward to the next installment. Stay safe J.

  • @johnhaight6142
    @johnhaight6142 3 года назад

    The bearings in the spindle need replacement.... It will do wood for you I'm sure.... But that's your noise issue.... Wood should be almost silent when mowing through with tools like that

  • @stormbound_guitars
    @stormbound_guitars 3 года назад +2

    That’s very exciting!
    Personally, I’ve just rented a new workshop after not having a space for over a year and a half, so I’m over the moon about being able to do any kind of creative work in a proper setting. Now I just need to restrain myself from buying ALL the tools, like someone we know 😉

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  3 года назад +3

      all the tools, ALL THE TOOLS! wait.. hold on.. 'restrain yourself'? what is this 'restrain!???' lol .Have fun with the new space!! B

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam 3 года назад

    Cool machine. Congrats!