Poisoned Compost in the Home Garden
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- It's been a cool start to spring and many of my seedlings seemed to be lagging for it. Some of them didn't germinate at all and others were slow and sometimes unhealthy. Then I came across Charles Dowding's pieces on aminopyralid herbicide and what it looked like in plants. I'm devastated to report that my many of my plants have now succumbed to it. There's no denying the tell-tale characteristics.
Not all is doom and gloom though -- I have an exciting announcement and have had good news all around in the past week. There's also plenty of edibles growing in the home garden and I share what's growing well, and pull up some delicious radishes while I'm at it.
Questions for you:
Have you heard of aminopyralid herbicide before and has it affected your garden?
What would you do with the tomatoes in the planter and what would you put in their place?
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It’s all making sense now. We are down in Bedfordshire and planted up so many plants last year. We also repotted some older ones into larger containers. We lost loads and I said to my hubby that it can only be the compost. Thank you for the info 🌺
No-Dig Garden Thank you. 😊
I had a few issues like this with purchased bags of compost and started purchasing compost from an Amish farmer who does not use chemicals in his pastures . Far better results . The unfortunate thing in the Midwest - There are crop duster aircraft and their chemicals can travel several hundred yards from the intended crops .
One would think the meat from cattle grazing on grasses treated with aminopyralid contains this chemical and humans are consuming it .
Thanks for your video Lovely Greens and congratulations on your show .
I live in Montana in the US and to my north and west side where the wind blows through the canyon there are wheat fields that is owned by a Cattle Company. And I've always wondered why I couldn't grow tomatoes or cucumbers and it seems that herbicide was at work. That gives me a lot of assurance that it wasn't me being a horrible gardener.
ROUND-UP weed killer and ROUND-UP ready seeds: Monsanto Company makes both. GLYPHOSATE, the chemical in ROUND-UP causes cancer and is now in ALL canned Baby Foods and has also been found in mother's breast milk. Monsanto just sold to the BAYER Corporation. They used GLYPHOSATE in Viet Nam to kill the vines, leaves, and trees; however, it has killed many of our Veterans too. It's all online. Look it up and read and pass the info along.
Tomatoes are notoriously sensitive to weed killers and can be hit by tiny amounts of weed killer on the breeze when everything else is fine. Even a neighbour using a small amount on a path in their garden next door can decimate tomatoes in your garden. Your tomato problems may be down to spraying nearby, they are very much the canary in the coal mine.
jerrod brey imagine what is doing to your body and lungs.... my sister live near Hardin MT and the spray sugar beets with a plane near here house and she Is having all kinds of isssues, one doctor thought she had MS... it’s the insect and herbicides that use.... in water too....
@@jpallen719 Herbicides are unlikely to be that dangerous to humans. Insecticides on the other hand are often organophosphate based. They are nerve poisons basically
Am so glad I been making my own compost since 1993 and we are organic vegetarians no animal products maybe it won’t happen here. Thanks for the information. I’ll pass it on.
It is not only in the fecal matter of the animals; it is already found in baby foods and mother's breast milk in America.
@Nancy Gilbert - I was wondering if meat is contaminated . Thanks for your input .
"I'm not going to name and shame"
*shows grow bag with Levington written on it.
Haha, I love it 😉
Lol! Actually the grow bag is fine. I’ve personally not had issues with Levington but know that others have. There are quite a few compost producers that are affected this year.
@@Lovelygreens but one of the affected tomatoes was in that bag. It does seem to be a huge thing this year, lots of gardeners reporting on it. Is the weedkiller a new one? Or are people just learning about it all of a sudden? I too heard it from Charles Dowding a few months back and since then I've seen a lot of people having the same problem. I'm wondering if people had this previous years but just put the cause down to something else
@@JustinMcNeil I think that's the case. Beginner gardeners will especially put it down to their own human error or "brown thumb". I've had a few people message me saying they've had issues with Levington compost but to be honest it's ALL the compost brands. The compost that I've used that I'm sure has been contaminated is another brand.
This year I eliminated outside compost. I do a little in my basement. I now plant and compost in the same container and it’s working better. I call it the condominium gardening. I put a few pots inside a big container and I can have 3 levels that feed on the same compost and compost tea. It also takes less space and for older people like me I don’t have to be bending. I love it.
You would think now the compost companies should be testing for the the herbicide and then get back to the farmers who supplied the manure and say to them we can't take it anymore which means that the farmer may lose out on money and may or may not prompt the farmers into not using the herbicide anymore! Thanks for sharing!
We’d expect that to happen wouldn’t we?
So sad to see this. I too have experienced Aminopyralid contamination and have been experimenting with ways to remediate this from my soil. So sorry. A commenter on my channel tipped me off about your experience and I certainly sympathize. And by the way, I grew Costeluto Florentino last year, pretty good tomato! Keep on getting the word out.
Hi Scott, you should have left a link to your channel and vid about this problem. I refered to your channel in a remark above, along with some other info. Best wishes, greetings from Holland.
Thank you for the information on the soil bought in bags at garden center. I use bagged garden soil for all my gardening needs.🌵💕🌵
Keep an eye out for any issues - you know what to look for now.
Reputable compost companies should test for the herbicide. It would give them a great marketing advantage.
My Tomatoes have gone exactly the same way. Its outrageous that we pay for good compost and then it destroys our plants. At first, I thought it was a bacterial virus in my mature seedlings.. has destroyed my Tomato crop. There are many brands of compost affected. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for this video! It sent me a long and fruitful investigation into herbicide contamination in compost I purchase and also that I am making in my home garden. Reading labels and familiarizing oneself with products that contain herbicides is really important! I called both my garden suppliers and quizzed them about the compost they sell. And I realized that I had used a turfbuilder product on my lawn and then used these clippings in my compost so I learned what was in that product as well and how it may have poisoned my compost. Cover-cropping can be a great strategy for leaching out toxicity and building the soil, but Aminopyralids are really bad news! Thanks again!
Last year i experienced this in one of my raised garden bed where i had my onions. I also used a bagged humus and manure mix. I will not use that this year. And will be sourcing out a local company that makes it praying i will have better luck. I am starting my own compost but not there yet yo have enough for my large garden. Thanks for sharing love your channel.
This is so frustrating, there needs to be much tighter regulations on the use of herbicides, and on the farmers selling their manure to the compost companies. Your garden is indeed lovely, I’ve subscribed!
As soon as I saw your title I thought of the Charles Dowding video. Sorry to hear of your troubles.
Lovely Green thank you
We had our ussual 10 ton load od mixed manure delivered in march. It must have been contaminated as everyone thats used it is experiencing growing disasters this year. We will have to rethink our autumn delivery. Another great video.
Thanks for the information. I quit buying straw from my local supplier after reading about farmers spraying glyphosate herbicides on it. No thanks, I have since been using wood shavings for the chickens which gets composted.
Lovely news about the allotment being featured and I can't wait to see it! Sorry to hear about the herbicide poisoning😬 hope all is not lost with your veg
Not all is lost but it’s been a big hit. I’m worried about how long the compost will be affected. Also future compost purchases..
Here in the uk the problem has been noted in many areas.At our allotment four years ago we experienced the same problem though undiagnosed at the time.At that time we stopped buying in manure from outside .However this year we are again experiencing the loss of many crops just collapsing within days of planting out.One theory is that the seedlings were grown on in bought compost. Colin West.
Enjoyed the video and appreciated the information.
I’m so sorry about your tomatoes! I saw Charles’ video about that and it’s just terrible. As for your big news I cannot wait!
Hmmm.. I was wondering why some of my tomatoes were showing weird symptoms. something I have never seen before. This makes sense to me as it was the first year I used aged barnyard manure directly from the farm. It was well aged (two to four years old) I mixed it with my own homemade compost and for transplanting my seedlings I mixed a little in with commercial potting soil. Now I think about it, the one raised bed outside of my fenced garden didn't get any of that manure, the tomatoes in that bed are doing great, showing no symptoms at all. Anyway, I appreciate you bringing that to our attention. Take care and stay safe, Sandie from Ontario Canada.
It’s one of those things that remains a mystery until aminopyralid herbicide info crosses your path.
Thank you for sharing about this herbicide problem. First time hearing about this over hear. Sorry to see your tomatoes in the condition they are.
I'm so so sorry! Thank you for getting the word out.
Thank you! Agh! From Maine
I've lost everything on my plot apart from my sweetcorn, which, being a grass, isn't affected by aminopyralid....
It's not a new herbicide, it's been around for years. It just keeps getting banned, then reinstated, then banned again, then reinstated again. Every few years when it's reinstated, everyone starts having these problems....
That's a shame! I think the compost makers should test their rawmaterials before they use it for compost production. It's irresponsible to deny accountability and just use whatever they receive as raw material.
I enjoy your videos a lot. The early ones of the alotment and specially "setting up shop" in the new garden. Best of luck in your TV endeavors!
Did your corn produce tassel and grow ears normally?
I'm not affected this year I believe, but it certainly makes me much more cautious about where my manure and compost comes from. I saw the video Charles Dowding posted and learned of it this year as well. A lot of similar things have been happening in Russia (I watch a few Russian RUclipsrs). I'm sure there's a lot of awful sprays here in U.S. too.
I m in Florida and got this issue this year . Tomatoes and eggplants are badly effected and peppers are doing well. it can be horse manure from my neighbor or mushroom compost as well. I see that This issue is getting serious for most of us
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The twisted foliage is it’s calling card. I got some in some manure direct, not from a bag. Really sad that it’s come to this😔 We can’t trust even bagged soil now.
Its spreading in Sweden too. I got manure from a local farmer and had bad damage to my dahlias and sunflowers. They looked totally crazy, se my insta miasfarm. Now, some months later, they have recovered and are starting to bloom, but the missgrouth is still there. I called Dow who sells it, and they said the farmers are prohibited to use the hay outside their farm. Only to sell it as a burning material. Carrots can be specifically bad damaged he said. I dont understand why they are allowed to sell or use this stuff!
Your peek-a-boo kitty Cheebie (?) was adorable. And Louie's fur looks like charcoal gray satin! Both beauties. It's so disheartening for gardeners to start out their season with such problems. All I could think about was tasting the first tomato from my garden and have discovered the flowers are not even setting fruit! It prob has to do with all the cold wet weather we have had but there is hope for the next set of trusses. Can't wait to see your acting debut! I'm sure they loved working with you.
Aww poor Kitty, congratulations to becoming an actress. You are so confident. Cheers 🥂
Is your show going to be seen in the USA? Or will you share it on your channel?
We caught the guy that rents our property for his cattle putting Roundup on our pastures last year. We had a red film on our very large pond that has never been there. Plus there are very few wild plants around except for our garden and house. Bad stuff.
I’m amazed that still many gardeners are unaware of this problem, when it first cropped up 11years ago we were affected and there was a publicity campaign. It was featured in lots of newspapers, on radio and TV and even debated in Parliament which lead to the pesticides withdrawal for a period. At that time the issue was mainly contaminated manure. Then the problem spread to commercial composts which use green waste as a component. The culprit here is probably clopyralid which is a similar ingredient used in amateur lawn weed killers. After application lawn clippings should not be composted so many gardeners dispose of them in garden waste bins which in some cases end up being used as green waste. By the way affected plants should not be composted but the problem is that some plants don’t exhibit symptoms and could be inadvertently compost which could perpetuate the problem. I devoted a section of my website to the problem here ossettweather.com/glallotments.co.uk/acmanure.html
I’ve been fortunate to have a friend that has lots of rabbit and goat manure as she grows chickens, rabbits and goats for milk and other goats for meats so I am lucky to get manure that doesn’t burn and if I get chicken manure I let it age as it can burn. Broccoli, collards, and kale make an excellent compost tea. So nourish your plats with them. I have access to cow manure from a farm but I love what rabbit and goat manure does for my small vegetables and flower garden and I feed many indoor and outdoor plants with fish emulsion. Potassium loving fruits and veggies get a side treat of ground up banana peel and they love it even roses.
APs ruined my tomato crop here in the US last year and broad beans planted in the same spot this year. It's such an insidious enemy of the organic gardener. I'm sorry that you are struggling with it, too. Thanks for getting the word out.
Sorry to see the damage to your tomatoes. I created no dig beds this year and I've also experienced issues with the council made compost I bought in bulk - I believe the herbicide residue can also linger from grass clippings put in council green waste. I first noticed this with my broad beans which just didn't grow well and then the leaves distorted. Although bean pods grew they were all empty so I've pulled them all out today. Looks like I may have damage to some of my tomatoes, also raspberries and strawberries have all pretty much died back. It seems quite random what is and isn't affected plus there are so many other variables but it would seem it's quite a widespread problem this year (perhaps down to the hot summer last year?). Let's hope for better success with other crops.
Nicola Hutchinson yes indeed
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I feel your pain. I'm in the states and I feel it might be even more difficult to avoid the poison here because of a product so widely used. I won't say the name but it starts with a "round" and ends with an "up". Every. Single. Neighbor. Uses it. I have 3 new raised beds and filled them with composted horse manure just last year. Everything was growing great in the fall and winter. I added composted grass clippings, some of which I picked up from local lawn care guys I would see mowing. Prepped the beds for spring to only watch everything suffer. Talk about frustration. When you start seeds indoors only to put them in the garden and watch this trainwreck occur thinking you did something terribly wrong. Research and research brought me to the same conclusion you're at. It's heartbreaking. I just left what was there and started throwing seeds in the beds just to see if anything would grow. To my amazement 1 pattie pan squash and 1 8ball zucchini are doing just fine and seems they are not effect. I'm not sure if the spot they are in just didn't get much grass clippings mixed in or if this variety is more tolerant than others. Luckily, I know it's the grass clippings and not the manure.
Here's a little extra I read up on: The company, which created this poison, have also created GMO seeds that are resistant to their herbicide. So just poison growing in poison, if that's what you're into.
Anyways, I'm glad you still have things thriving and you have a plan of action. Thanks for sharing.
I buy veganic compost ( vegan and organic ) so no animal poo. There are only a few brands ( I use vegro in the uk) and they are twice
as expensive as regular organic compost, but no issue with herbicide.
Zero peat content too. Looks like great stuff!
Oh I didn't know such a thing existed - thanks for that information! :)
Thanks for the advice, going out to check my veg now.
Here in the states we are affected as well. This is the first year using horse manure and it has destroyed my tomatoes. I planted 30 plants and almost all have been affected. However everything in garden has not been affected.
Hello Tanya, thanks so much for your video and warning. I was doing well with five different indoor succulents...until I used a new bag of organic cactus soil. At first I thought I had done something wrong, then I thought they might have spider mites (from this second bag) and bought Neem oil to try. That is failing to help and my last two little succulents are dying. Meanwhile, my Thanksgiving cactus and two sansevierias are fine. I didn't add new soil to the cactus, can't remember if I did with the snake plants. Now I am wondering if the aminopyralid herbicide was in that second organic soil (if spider mites are not the culprit, and in that bag of new soil). I too saw Charles Downing's video, but did not make the connection to my own situation. Best wishes with the rest of your garden. Cheers, Ardith
I had the 2-4-D herbicide drift damage on my tomatoes and beans this year. Luckily, some of my tomatoes grow out of the damage and start to flower. Depend on the variety of herbicide, some may last for years in soil (and luckily my problem comes from drift). Tomatoes and beans are most vulnerable to herbicide damage. One drop of herbicide in a swimming pool is able to damage the tomatoes and beans. So beans are often used to test if the soil is free of herbicide or not. In theory, you can eat the veg grown from this contaminated compost, because the herbicide distorts the cell walls which is not digested and absorbed by animals (that's why manure contains the herbicide, and we are also 'animals'). One way to extract the herbicide from the compost is to grow corns, which is not affected by the herbicide.
Wow good to know......Glade to know we have our own manure...... And the hay we use is from 2 farmer for our hay....... And they don't spray...... And I don't buy any compost... But that's crazy how now it's in the soil system...... How long will this last for in the compost..... And is it safe to eat the veg grown in this compost?my peas are 5 ft. High and podding out.....
when i bought my store-bought compost from garden shop i don't use them directly. i ever directly used them to mix with my already existing plant but then it turns out burn all the leaves, happen to pepper and tomatoes. so then the next time, i let them airy at local temperature and water shower them like there's a plant on the compost but not too intense, my father said that happens only to the new-produce manure. the old manure won't have aminopyralid, it created "hot minerals" that cause plants burn
I have had a terrible season. I live in Orlando which is quite subtropical. I had no idea why my tomato plants had tight curling leaves with little fruit. The curling leaves were also on my basil and my zucchini plants produced two, just two zucchini. I will make the proper changes, that is for sure.
How can we stop it?? its very doubtful we can....we are up against huge manufacturing companies,farmers who don't want to go out of business etc , but the more this is talked about and questioned the better.
The big question is, if it's affecting the leaves its got to be affecting the fruit / produce of the plant.
Soo 2020 and companies still selling grow bags that contain aminopyralid poison. All my greenhouse tomatoes are Ailsa Craig and in last few days one by one are starting to look like yours. I have some planted outside in another compost and some Burpees Long Keeper in pots so keeping fingers crossed. Going to let the very large chain diy store I bought them from know
Omg! I cannot believe that this video was on my recommended videos tab! I have this problem of curling leaves this year, and have never had it in the past. I did not search for a solution yet, but this video popped up for me!! Anyways, this is the first year that I used bagged compost, that I found on clearance last year for $1 each (originally 11.99 each). I thought I found gold with this deal! I am starting to regret that find!
Great video!
This is exactly what I needed to see!!
By the way, where are you located?
I am in New Jersey! :)
The brand name of the compost I used is EcoScraps. I was under the impression that it was food scraps, and not manure, but I don't actually know.
Omg I noticed some leaves curling and growing funky and thought it was something I was doing wrong! Everything is still growing tho... fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Yes, my Mallow got it. I thought it was something else and tried to spray it with soapwater in a first attempt to save it. But now I know. Thank you for this video.
This horrible stuff has hit my onions and broad beans. I used some manure from a local stable last winter to mulch two beds and the plants are stunted, twisted, yellowing, it's a grim scene! I'm not going to eat any of it, and to be honest I don't really feel like using those beds again next year either. Poisoned, thanks a million irresponsible farmers! :(
Devastating. I really hope this issue gets sorted out SOON! The stuff needs banning.
Thank you for your advice and sharing
Yes! It’s from manure! I had this happen too!
Because your aubergines and peppers are ok, I don't think it's the compost. Aminopyralid herbicide would set everything back and in tomatoes, stunts the growth and causes the leaves to yellow but doesn't cause the deformity and curling. Looks like overwatering when it's too cool. The leaves curl to expose the stoma on the underside to encourage water loss through transportation.
I had a mild dose of it in May but the plants came back - and I make my own compost from seaweed, leaf litter, kitchen waste and cardboard.
Cut off the bigger leaves then leave your tomatoes unwatered until they begin to wilt and water sparingly for a couple of weeks.
It’s definitely aminopyralid poisoning with the toms. Wish I was wrong but it has all the classics characteristics. I think with the other plants I must have used a different bag - perhaps a different batch that didn’t have the herbicide.
Well, now I know why I have lost so many cucumber plants! Chilli peppers were badly affected, but I persevered with them, spraying with a garlic, epsom salt and Fairy liquid solution thinking it was a white fly problem,. They seem to be coming on now. My tomatoes in the greenhouse are not doing too badly, but not the best. I have lost so many seedlings this year, putting it down to the weather.I began to think it might have been the compost I was using so I changed to a different make, that was somewhat better.
I've had the same issue this year. My peas were particularly badly affected. It's a real shame
Hi Tanya the very same thing has happened to my greenhouse tomatoes! I did wonder if it was the cold at first, but my other two are shrivelling now 😣, I think the only thing we can be sure of, is just using homemade compost!
Thanks for the info, away on holiday for 10 days during that time the temperature .in my greenhouse got up to 42c my tomato plants look like yours, but down to the hot temperature used new compost in my tomato beds, it looks like I have it.
Dan from Allotment Diary reported this about three years ago when he lost loads of his container crops HIs tomato plants looked like mutant aliens.
Thank you for the video. I have also been affected by a batch of mushroom/manure compost. Some of the answers I need are: is it safe to eat plants grown in the poisoned compost? As we've seen, many plants like brassica or grass/corn family are not *visibly* affected, but just because the plant has grown ok doesn't mean it hasn't absorbed the aminopyralid poison. This is very worrying. I have stopped eating my lettuces and mange-tout that *look* fine. I haven't decided about the potatoes.
I heard about this dreadful herbicide when I attended a Charles Dowding talk at Wisley a few weeks ago. Certain crops seem more susceptible than others. We have had problems with it at my allotment, particularly crops like potatoes and tomatoes. It's made me very wary of using brought in horse manure. I'm using my own home compost and the heat treated stuff we get free from the local council. So far I don't seem to have any problems. Fingers crossed!
Does heat treating kill aminopyralid content? I hadn't heard that.
@@brucedanielle Sorry Danielle, what I meant was the council compost was heat treated. It comes from household waste, not manure. I still use manure, but mainly where I'm growing brassicas and don't seem to mind it.
Thank you for your video and information about the herbicide in compost, really feel for you. I have a raspberry bush in a wooden barrel, it's top leaves are curling, fruit has formed, wondering if it's compost dressing I put on. Congratulations on your new filming adventures. 🐞🌹🌸
Thank you for your reply. I noticed before I added the compost on top,.......a spider in the leaves, aphids and ants, also had plants around the base in the barrel it's in. So I have removed them given extra feed of seaweed. Have removed curling leaves, may not have been compost, I'm guessing.
Thank you for your reply. At first thought it may be the spider, now I see from your reply it wasn't. Your right about water, think there was not enough may be. The weather been mixed in uk. I will take a look at your video.🐞
Thank you for the information
I've also had aminopyralid poisoning on my boysenberry bush, blackcurrant bush, redcurrant bush and raspberries. I bought all of these plants in March this year, so it's pretty devastating. Just grateful that none of my other crops are affected. The compost I used was Grosure Farmyard Manure, if anyone is interested.
Oh no 😢 I’m so sorry to hear that you’ve lost so many perennials
Cool news about the TV appearance!
so sorry to hear of your garden woes...kinda makes me happy to have been a lazy lump this year (no gardening) because i use the packaged manure all the time...i love love love cheebies and louie in the videos...they're like the comic relief needed in every day living...i cannae wait to see the allotment show...you're becoming quite the movie star...ha ha ha...have a beautiful week..(the beach camping looked so relaxing...great way to celebrate the solstice )
They make me laugh everyday 🙂 Thanks Barb and glad you enjoyed the video
Devastated my tomato plants! I got topsoil and compost from Home Depot and the tomato plants were from a nursery. I seem to be very allergic to it myself and it has caused some severe allergic reactions. I'm burning the tomato plants. Not sure what to do with the compost. I thought it was a fungus and was going to bleach it.
Congrats on your allotment's TV appearance.
thank you for the information. sorry about your plants. hope no more are affected
Interesting. We experienced three weeks of 90-degree weather in May--highly unusual for the NC mountains. A bunch of my tomatoes got the leaf curl, but it was wilt from the drought. Most of them failed to thrive, but the few that did I gave an extreme pruning and they bounced back. I found the ones most affected were the dark tomatoes; Black Russian Krim and Cherokee Purple. I wonder if they are more fragile?
Hi chebies and Louie🌵💕🌵
Sounds like you've had fun 👍
enjoyed your video your raised bed garden Is looking really nice It sure must be nice that you are still able to grow cool weather crops. here In Oklahoma cool weather crops are pretty much done In for until fall we are already In the 100s anyway when It comes to my tomato plants I seem to have the curling of the leaves myself In may and part of June we had some cool weather as well and lots and lots of rain and flooding
Thank you GRAZON for your killing abilities. A few years back I lost 200 tomatoes when I mulched with Grazon laced hay.
Yep, known as Forefront in the UK.
Make your own compost. If you have access grass, leaves and vegi food scraps, you are ready to go?
I really hope I can start my own composting soon. All my seedling, for the most part, seem to be affected by aminopyralid, this year. I’ve just moved countries and there doesn’t seem to be any regulation here about using aminopyralid on your cattle forage, so I guess the safest bet would be to make my own compost and stay away from manure of any kind. It is a shame and makes me have to research for other items to include, so my compost has everything my plants need, but needs must, I suppose!
Re the Aminopyralid, it was very bad a few years ago, I thought steps had been taken to prevent it getting into food crops but there seems to have been a resurgence lately, some change in regulations perhaps, I have been avoiding bagged potting compost containing 'green waste' as I had many plants die a few years ago. This goes against the recycling ethos, which I am in favour of, but not if it kills all my food plant, except of course the sweetcorn, which being a grass is immune. Municipal green waste may well contain Clopyralid, which is a lawn weedkiller of which I was reminded by Charles Dowding, after I replied to his video about the aminopyralid. If only people could be trusted to obey restrictions on what can be safely recycled!
I just wonder how many of the contributors below actually wrote to their congressmen about the aminopyralid!
great video. Thanks for the information 🇨🇦💝👍
I am across the pond in USA and people misuse herbicides because of their effective burndown of weeds. The biggest thing is 2,4,D and it can linger in the soil for several weeks, its in lawn chemicals and the majority of commercial brush control products.. I really enjoy your video content because the UK utilizes a more natural process of agriculture and is not reliant upon chemical fertilizer products. I just started a compost heap by spacing metal posts 1.5 Meters apart and wrapping it with fence wire 1 meter tall, last summer my heap kept falling down and getting larger and some type of containment became necessary.
Omg.....that happened to my garden also this year...it was first year I used horse manure and I will never use that again😏
Hi
Thank you for your reply. I dried them ties in little bundles hanging around a mesh partition. They went dark and soft. I think I may be too late now as they are flowering here. Read that I need to collect them when they are young, before flowering????
The cats were funny, my potatoes are getting leaf curl....
Lovely Greens you talk of poisoned compost....{{ the only safe and sure way of comporting is to make your own{{{ it is difficult {{ having enough material to compost or a large enough space:: controversy over how good or bad commercially bought compost is.. it has been a topic of conversation among gardeners for some time here in the United States... i was born and raised on a farm in Utah USA.... all organic farming dad took all his produce to market every week and as a 12yr old i would drive the old Chevvy truck....there n back .... we had crops fail but never through poison... what poison the soil... natural poison {{ conifers but you can remedy this with enhanced feeding of the soil.... {{ Okay now i will tell you about animal manure..{ its not so much what the horses/ cattle... eat... no.... i own a ranch in Southern Arizona... i call out the vet guy... he then injects my horses/ ponies.... with god knows what.. yeah its good for my stock but i question the manure... how safe is it i cannot stop treating my stock without the horses i'd go bust!... as you can imagine we get tons of garden / farm fertiliser... people take it away by the truck load... im glad to get rid... it attracts rats mice.. and rattlesnakes... rattlers come a lookin for the vermin... we have foe a long time wondered what we can do to help this poison issue.... bearing in mind it is a business we run ..... seeya'll.....Ed... Sierra Vista AZ
Was it gardeners world on the BBC??
Yes :)
Don’t blame the herbicides, there are some viruses, not so uncommon. And it can happen that the compost has been contaminated with those viruses
Hello,I use a locally sourced horse manure with lots of wood shaving in and my plants look awefull this year my potatos are stunted and lacking leaf,beans and other things looking yellow and not growing well
This explains a lot. Some of our potted plants have exactly the same symptoms as yours. I’m glad we started our own compost heap.
Heard it on the Scott Head - Black Gumbo
channel first, then UK vids popped up. This herbicide is also allowed in Holland. Usage recomendations are: don't use it on hay fields and meadows that have access from stables, because the dung will contain this herbicide. It's pretty clear to me that these usage guidelines are largescale ignored. I'm now an extreme composter, just like Scott. No more external hay, compost or pelleted cow dung for me.
Get rid of the compost in the affected planter. Best wishes, greetings from Holland.
Unfortunately, whenever voluntary reporting is involved there's bound to be problems. What's also worrying is that some people are seeing it in organic bagged compost too. Which means that this herbicide is potentially making its way into not only the conventional food system, but the organic market as well.
Thank you for this very informative and worrying video. I have just looked on Google - where else - and found aminopyralid to be on sale on eBay as ForeFront and GrazeOn. Because my home made compost is quite light in texture we have been buying bagged manure to improve moisture retention and two of my tomatoes have wilted like yours. You cannot win really.
A rather disturbing possibility came to mind after sending this. If the cattle, sheep etc pick up aminopyralid from the grass and it passes through the gut and on into the manure then some may get into the bloodstream and on into the meat. Hmmmm... organic beef perhaps.
I planted some cucumber, which was thriving in the greenhouse. As soon as I'd put it outside it started to die off, I rechecked to see if it was a greenhouse variety but no it was definitely to grow outside. So disappointed, I'd had a bumper crop last year. We get horse manure delivered to the allotment, maybe it could be this herbicide? Everything else seems ok though 🤔
Now i know why some of my quadgrow tomatoes have curly leaves as I had to put compost in the buckets. The compost came from the same company but not all from the same bag. They do have flowers and tomatoes. In the raised beds I am using molehill soil and my own compost.. But some beds have some bought compost on them, so I will not do that again. Eveline
I've been scared for my garden since I heard of this a few weeks ago. We make our own compost but we add hay from a local farm to the garden every year.
your cat is beautiful, we had a grey one the same, called him Jabba as he was so greedy, unfortunately, someone poisoned him, sickening. we have one cat left, two Dogs, 2 rabbits. love animals. congratulations on your TV appearance.
That’s so sad about Jabba 😢
@@Lovelygreens thank you, i don't understand cruilty to animals.
According to Roots and Refuge, you can also roast radishes, which the young lady says are divine.
I pan sauté radishes and they are lovely. They get nice and sweet but with some umami flavors as well. I also sauté the tops and they're my favorite cooked green. Better than spinach IMO.
I'm growing tomatoes in my potting shed this year for the first time... three of the plants are doing really well but two others have curled leaves and slow growth like yours and I also thought it was something i was doing wrong, like watering too much. I'm so glad I've found out what it could be but not glad that this problem is so wide spread. Everything was fine until I started to feed them with a tomato feed, and I was even wondering if that was the reason! Thanks for the video, is there any remedy? Like flushing it out with water?
I just heard about this from another You tuber the other day I was shocked here you think you are doing the right thing growing your own and come to find it may be poisoned by a herbicide. I am a home gardener and every year I pick up at least 10 bags of compost to amend my soil...sadly not anymore I'm too afraid! If the manufacturers of the compost don't even know??? Who are we to trust? I try to do the right thing as far nature and wildlife that is my choice...oh just smh we are poisoning our environment for the almighty dollar...there is no planet "B".
@@no-diggarden thanks I will.
It can be in any animal manure... I have milk goats and we buy supplemental hay from the feed store, beautiful clean “no weeds” hay, but alas , in my area of the country almost all the pastures and hay fields are sprayed with this herbicide. I came to Texas from a small acreage in Southern California, where you can grow just about anything , but when I planted A few tomato plants that I purchased from a nearby big box store, they were green and lovely, but within two weeks they turned yellow curled up and died, I’d never had any problems like that before, I chalked it up to the weather in Texas. It’s a shame, we can’t even use our own animals manure unless we can find organically grown feed and even if you can find it, who can afford to buy it. I now garden in raised boxes that I paid to bring in good soil from an area that had not been sprayed. Be very careful it’s everywhere.