The Facebook Dilemma, Part Two (full documentary) | FRONTLINE

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2018
  • FRONTLINE investigates a series of warnings to Facebook as it grew into a global empire.
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    A series of mounting crises at Facebook, from the company’s failure to protect users’ data, to the proliferation of “fake news” and disinformation, have raised the question: How has Facebook’s historic success brought about real-world harm?
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  • @CarltonMarshall
    @CarltonMarshall 5 лет назад +1119

    Who else thinks that FRONTLINE always has the BEST documentaries?

    • @harrybrown6014
      @harrybrown6014 5 лет назад +14

      I do and I would like to support them without paying PBS to broadcast them. 90% of the stuff on PBS I can do without. You can't make a contribution to Frontline. The closest you can come is to donate to WGBH in Boston.

    • @americancitizen748
      @americancitizen748 5 лет назад +17

      Agree. I have watched FRONTLINE for decades!

    • @Reincarnation111
      @Reincarnation111 5 лет назад +13

      it is a very good source for knowledge and of great documentaries.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 5 лет назад +10

      Yea, Frontline seems like it is usually unbiased, but still you gotta watch...

    • @ericcunanan4270
      @ericcunanan4270 5 лет назад +12

      They’re Amongst the last bastions of long form journalism

  • @ammirza8323
    @ammirza8323 5 лет назад +386

    Looking at Facebook's representative's faces, you can easily calculate that they are lying.

    • @jairussiriyalaofficial8922
      @jairussiriyalaofficial8922 5 лет назад +3

      EXACTLY

    • @aldelgado9343
      @aldelgado9343 5 лет назад +6

      they all got rich out of others misfortunes

    • @helenlauer9545
      @helenlauer9545 4 года назад +2

      yeh i noticed that too. yikes.

    • @eclecticdiva85
      @eclecticdiva85 4 года назад +9

      I think they really are unable to fix the problem. They have grown bigger than they ever thought they would, and now they can't handle security and safety for over 2 billion people.

    • @jennifs6868
      @jennifs6868 4 года назад +2

      @@aldelgado9343 just like our government and the CIA!

  • @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205
    @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 2 года назад +41

    Mark saying “I’m sorry” isn’t enough. He needs to pay a fine for his crimes like anyone else.

    • @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205
      @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 2 года назад +2

      And Facebook is still monopolizing the market why else did parlor shut down? Facebook is still one sided and pushing liberal views.

    • @Redheadedlady55
      @Redheadedlady55 9 месяцев назад

      ~That is right....seems liberal to me & with an election on the way...we all shall be looking.

    • @brianwood6655
      @brianwood6655 8 месяцев назад +1

      Mark Zuckerberg has been TORTURING me for more than a year! He has RUINED my life! He should be in JAIL

    • @tygrenvoltaris4782
      @tygrenvoltaris4782 4 месяца назад

      Nice try bot trying to divide the americans 😂​@@silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205

    • @mitchellscheer677
      @mitchellscheer677 2 месяца назад

      Crimes? Name a crime he’s committed. You’re welcome to have your OPINION on the extent to which social media companies should limit what people are able to post on their sites, but there is nothing criminal about the degree to which they chose to do so unless it crosses into criminal boundaries such as child pornography.

  • @mikeedwards2637
    @mikeedwards2637 4 года назад +76

    Bottom line is simple !! When you want to “connect” everyone together , you have to realize that not everyone is going to get along !!
    Michael Edwards

    • @raewynurwin4256
      @raewynurwin4256 4 года назад +1

      Indeed Mike Edward's, either he lied or was naive. No time in history has humanity been benevolent towards all, unfortunately we are not made that way.

    • @hotchocolatay1378
      @hotchocolatay1378 3 года назад

      Facts💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯%

  • @jefflebowski918
    @jefflebowski918 5 лет назад +263

    I am not a fan of Facebook but to be fair if you get your facts and opinions on how to vote from social media then you shouldn't vote.

    • @chownful
      @chownful 5 лет назад +10

      Ironically these same people used to say you can't believe anything you read on the Internet 10-15 years ago...

    • @Handlecantbelongerthan30chara
      @Handlecantbelongerthan30chara 5 лет назад +24

      No Jeff, because everyone has the right to vote. You fail to see your own intellectual elitism even after a documentary just described for two hours how walled gardens are created, how companies like facebook literally sponsor internet for entire nations so that they can onboard the entire populace as users. If you took a little of that time you spend being arrogant and narrow minded and dedicate it to understanding and not insulting, you will see that you can't just blame people for being 'stupid' because they dont behave in the way you do, and know what you do. It's not that hard to understand that people have different perceptions of the world based on their experiences. And what makes yours so much better? Just because you have it? Many, many people have never owned a computer and have only ever owned smartphones where facebook is the 'browser' because of their socioeconomic histories. Should they not vote because they're had different opportunities to you? Or maybe they are all just idiots. You think you're better, just like the people you ridicule think they're better. You're just the same. We all are. But you're not part of the problem Jeff, you're special.

    • @fauxbro1983
      @fauxbro1983 5 лет назад +12

      @@Handlecantbelongerthan30chara lol how much time did you waste on that long ass post. Get a job

    • @soumyadeeproy1373
      @soumyadeeproy1373 5 лет назад +1

      60% people get their news from facebook!!!

    • @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165
      @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165 5 лет назад +3

      Jeff Lebowski
      THANK YOU!!! i was like: Does no ONE watch C-SPAN???

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 5 лет назад +275

    Social media has turned into a social catastrophe.

    • @americancitizen748
      @americancitizen748 5 лет назад +9

      Society is a social catastrophe. That is the root cause.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 5 лет назад +10

      @@americancitizen748
      That's just the problem, most people can't handle the whole thing, they can't keep things in perspective, also it's good that there's alternative news sources to the big biased network news agencies but the problem is people latch onto some news site that tells them what they want to hear and the next thing you know things start getting extreme, and that's how the "polarization" happens.

    • @bean-pod
      @bean-pod 5 лет назад +7

      That blonde woman nodding her head and smiling "I guess we acted too slow" (yay??!) after showing the Myanmar genocide made me almost throw a shoe at the screen.

    • @NQuiz52
      @NQuiz52 5 лет назад +1

      Not really? From a business perspective it is GOLDEN.

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 5 лет назад +4

      John Hood - have you been watching Facebook stock ? It’s getting crushed...

  • @dmcoxfree
    @dmcoxfree 5 лет назад +169

    " We were too slow". Move Fast and Break Things !!!!

    • @SuperSpace2009
      @SuperSpace2009 3 года назад +4

      Wow! That hit them where it hurts!

    • @digitalkoh
      @digitalkoh 3 года назад +3

      @@SuperSpace2009 Well, not really..., their motto was never "Move Fast and Fix Things" =()

    • @Willie5000
      @Willie5000 3 года назад +2

      That's what happens when your website was originally created so the founder could stalk the girls in his dorm building.

    • @sabihatanveer8494
      @sabihatanveer8494 3 года назад

      🤣🤣

  • @charliebarton
    @charliebarton 4 года назад +43

    "Move fast and break things" followed by "we moved to slow." Huh....
    Deleted my account 6 or 7 years ago and regret ever having used it. Apparently when someone puts a picture up of me it still places my name due to their facial recognition capacities. I'd like to tell them to cut it out, but apparently I'd have to sign in.

  • @snakey973
    @snakey973 5 лет назад +216

    This makes me so pissed, watching how much they dismissed everyones concerns and refused to take any responsibility for the monster they made

    • @theblacksheep1000
      @theblacksheep1000 5 лет назад +6

      WHO? TRUMP OR CLINTON?

    • @VivaSaludableconMarla
      @VivaSaludableconMarla 3 года назад +7

      It pisses me off too because these are kids without a moral compass

    • @patroberts9497
      @patroberts9497 3 года назад +3

      take back our country, elect all new people into govt

    • @wendykay3195
      @wendykay3195 3 года назад +1

      They are young people we are the elders .... it's our responsibility to reach out and help guide them .....

    • @flstffatboy3910
      @flstffatboy3910 3 года назад +7

      @@wendykay3195 They cannot be guided they are to self righteous

  • @ashlierundquist9628
    @ashlierundquist9628 5 лет назад +93

    The way they discuss things sounds like members of Scientology - robotic and out of touch. Sociopathic andd scarey.

    • @kafacela483
      @kafacela483 3 года назад +1

      yup... exactly ! and now they probably know abt our comments!🙄🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️😬

    • @danwohlslagel1277
      @danwohlslagel1277 2 года назад +1

      That magnitude of power will turn anyone into a sociopath.

  • @KazenoniKakuremi
    @KazenoniKakuremi 3 года назад +26

    42:00 I swear Zuckerberg is turning into an android; it seems he becomes less and less human as time goes by 🤣🤣

    • @ninjabreadgirl
      @ninjabreadgirl 3 года назад +2

      *Dead panned stare* "I love this.... all the comments that are, that are coming in.... I'm sitting here... smoking these meats... and um... just hanging out with 85,000 people who are han-hanging out with me in my backyard!"

  • @laurakobetich9809
    @laurakobetich9809 3 года назад +55

    I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views! Seems like important information to me

    • @imee8843
      @imee8843 2 года назад +1

      There busy updating there status on Facebook 🤔

    • @raedbilbessi4397
      @raedbilbessi4397 2 года назад +3

      Not many appreciate the painful truth

  • @JeepCherokeeful
    @JeepCherokeeful 5 лет назад +71

    Congressional hearing was a joke, shameful. Example of why our nation isn’t doing well.

    • @maddie9185
      @maddie9185 5 лет назад +7

      JeepCherokeeful exactly. A bunch of old people asking questions about something they know nothing about. At the very least some of them could have informed themselves better so that they could’ve at least ask better questions. Technology has moved very fast and most people don’t have a clue. I don’t think that even zuckerberg was prepared for the the impact that Facebook was going to have on society and he opened up a Pandora box and didn’t know how to keep it under control.

    • @scottLEEthatsME
      @scottLEEthatsME 5 лет назад +6

      Why didn't the documentary get into congress being completely ignorant to the problem? This doc made it seem like they knew what they were doing... Everyone is in the business of disinformation. It's not a Facebook problem, it's a social problem. This whole thing seems to be a commercial for censorship.

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful 5 лет назад +5

      madeline cruz for sure, Facebook is some type of beast. Congress didn’t prepare properly for the hearing. And fortunately I’ve never gotten my news, etc. from Facebook. I seriously wonder if Mark understands how the world really works?

    • @alicecapone
      @alicecapone 5 лет назад +2

      Thats why young people need to step up and replace those old politicians, instead just grumbling or some even made up some conspiracy theories which just created more chaos and confusion.
      Clinton, Bush and Trump were born in 1946 and in 2008, we have elected Obama who was born in 1961.
      8 years later, in 2016, both US president candidates were older than the current one at the time.
      Shouldnt it have told us all how much we were falling back ???
      Most people who were born around the 60's are the waste of the generation, MOST of them coz of the 80's drugs used

    • @8877robert
      @8877robert 4 года назад

      Hear hear one if the most important issues going and they were clueless.

  • @dougruscoe8664
    @dougruscoe8664 5 лет назад +60

    My instincts are screaming that Gleit and Zuckerberg are incapable of engaging in honest conversations.

    • @breezy3725
      @breezy3725 4 года назад +8

      They left out the part of the Z interview where he says "When I was human" and then he stumbles and corrects himself and says, "I mean I am human" Weird!

    • @tyiffpeijc8702
      @tyiffpeijc8702 3 года назад

      @@breezy3725 Aw, c'mon. He's been a total doofus plenty of times when he has to ad-lib while speaking publicly. Tons of people have that problem, so it's really not that weird lol I'd argue him being an imperfect speaker is _part_ of what makes him human.
      Not that I'm on his side or pro facebook or whatever, just that your comment was implying he's somehow not a real person and that's pretty ridiculous. Also, for the sake of not furthering the spread fake 'facts', the interview where he said that wasn't even featured in this documentary, so they didn't "leave that part out" (look it up, it's a different year, and he wasn't using a clip-on mic for that interview).

    • @breezy3725
      @breezy3725 3 года назад +3

      @@tyiffpeijc8702 I understand that speaking in public is people's number one fear, however, no one, at least human, would stumble and say, when I was human....

    • @marknc9616
      @marknc9616 Месяц назад

      They have to tow the company line. They should probably have one spokesperson and not allow other current employees to speak to the media.

  • @kurttuchscherer7706
    @kurttuchscherer7706 2 года назад +42

    I listened to this a second time. To me the most telling statement was at the end of this part. " I can't leave Facebook. All my friends and family are on Facebook. " I used that excuse also. Then Cambridge Analytical happened. I dropped Facebook then and haven't returned. Best thing I have done. Now if I want to talk to friends or family I actually have to engage in conversation with them. Facebook is not a social media. It is the opposite. It allows people to say whatever they want from the safety of their couch without having to interact with our neighbors.

    • @saywhat6250
      @saywhat6250 2 года назад

      Facebook is so criminal, corrupt & FOS it's ridiculous. Nowadays or ever since the 2016 presidential election facebook has really been on a heavy censorship crusade censoring any & everything that might be informative to the uninformed as far as the status quo is concerned. But to hide this they use a so-called "community standard" policy to block out what THEY (not you) might feel is unacceptable. In other words they think for you without GAF of how you might see it. That right there is a violation of people rights. Why would they take it upon themselves to restrict things that's posted when there's already certain controls that the individual can use to filter out post that maybe offensive to them (& not 'facebook admins')??? They'll even restrict fb users for post that was posted way before they even put the policy in place & then will give you no option or opportunity to dispute the violation.

    • @toninagel377
      @toninagel377 Год назад

      I hear that Facebook is too easy to be hacked, and there is no way to contact them about it I am stilled pissed because these hackers go onto my page back in 2018. And we found out they were hackers from Nigeria and they took everything off the left-hand side of the page to where I could not delete it. My husband was a vet and passed away and people that went posted how his viewing was set up all my grandkids pic and family and friends I swear if I had a way to contact them still instead of all my friends reporting and they still do to this day have my page and putting up smut and it isn't fair. I will never trust Facebook ever again I don't follow any social media to this day too much bad shit happens I even email the support and they just keep telling me to delete the page will I can't because I can't even get into it anymore know I am totally screwed.

    • @MrLarryLessor
      @MrLarryLessor Год назад +1

      I remember when facebook began... by then I was maybe in Grad School -
      Many of my college friends/ high school friends refused to engage in that website -
      They could feel from many miles away the dangers that a media like that could help create:
      There is a lot of good to facebook: It has exposed many people's true feelings ... because as you stated, many people will say what they really think from the comforts of their own couch & room ~ which they may not say at all in a public setting or on the phone, at an outing etc.
      The website has exposed how many of us try cases/ engage in deliberation/ jury duty from our own homes, analyzing and making judgments/ decisions that we may not ever say in public.
      I can tell a lot of what someone thinks by
      - if they "Like" a post or comment,
      - or if they read something you sent them without responding
      - or if they accept your friend request, won't respond to your request for weeks, or deny a friend request immediately or after 2 weeks or a month etc.
      The website actually helped me understand better who is
      1) a true friend or 2) a useful acquaintance or 3) a nostalgic acquaintance who today it might be best to keep our distance from each other
      Etc.
      I have family members who I realize now after years of "Facebook friendship" that we really are perhaps best off NOT being friends:
      There are cousins of mine who think my parents are their "friends". But in reality I hear my parents ripping those cousins apart at the dinner table in conversation - telling me how 'those nephews and neices are troublemakers. ... they like eating sh!t.... so what do you do with someone who likes to eat sh!t: You give them sh!t on a plate and they eat it right up".
      These are things your close confidants will tell you that if they are smart they may NEVER say in person or on social media.

    • @renatotiamzon9855
      @renatotiamzon9855 Год назад

      Watch out facebook

    • @eniskurban9750
      @eniskurban9750 9 месяцев назад

      Do you use other facebook apps like instagram?

  • @myshortstack9705
    @myshortstack9705 3 года назад +5

    EVERYBODY NEED TO GET OFF THESE APPS ASAP

  • @GreenFurnNW
    @GreenFurnNW 5 лет назад +93

    Facebook free for 6 years now, life is good. Everyone should join the club, start living a real life.

    • @GreenFurnNW
      @GreenFurnNW 5 лет назад +3

      @D K I remember when I first deleted my account, It was almost instinct for me to attempt to log in to my deleted facebook account. It lasted for about a week, and that's when I knew something was wrong with the site.

    • @ev4742
      @ev4742 5 лет назад +5

      I’ve never even had a FB account. It’s always seemed like garbage to me.

  • @volooooo
    @volooooo 5 лет назад +246

    None of you are nearly as important as you’d like to believe you are. Delete your accounts. Nobody will notice.

    • @theblacksheep1000
      @theblacksheep1000 5 лет назад +4

      NOTICE ME SEMPAI!!!!!

    • @ameremortal
      @ameremortal 5 лет назад +2

      We are more important than you want to believe. If we all quit, they win. We need to use new technology for good if we wish to combat its use for evil.

    • @nickilovesdogs8137
      @nickilovesdogs8137 5 лет назад

      @@ameremortal Amere yes we definitely need Sophia the robot and the others as soon as possible.

    • @jax1492
      @jax1492 5 лет назад

      Probably not but it's a personal choice

    • @LittleRapGuy
      @LittleRapGuy 5 лет назад

      They used and are still using facebook for a method recorded stacking people criminally involved with criminally valuing databases crimes, and inter-branch natures of identity thefts, and of trade center predicate acts coverups that used facebook for this through time and now. They are using all the online policing and inter-branch.

  • @Ama-be
    @Ama-be 5 лет назад +28

    "Move fast and break things" be "slow" to fix them.

    • @poohbeartube
      @poohbeartube 4 года назад +2

      Exactly. Act recklessly. What can go wrong?

  • @williamaperrow636
    @williamaperrow636 4 года назад +34

    In both parts of this series I keep hearing from Facebook's people the term "Idealism" which they are confusing with the term "Naive". When all those interviewed use the same terminology "too slow" then there IS a conspiracy of lies from Facebook.

    • @prepperjonpnw6482
      @prepperjonpnw6482 2 года назад +3

      I noticed the same thing lol. It’s like they were all given talking points and key phrases ahead of time.

  • @dlewis8405
    @dlewis8405 5 лет назад +82

    The young lady Facebook provided to comment sounds EXACTLY like Sheryl Sandberg. She probably parrots everything the boss says as gospel.

    • @romeomatei5692
      @romeomatei5692 5 лет назад +7

      Yes. She is a fluffer.

    • @diggydude5229
      @diggydude5229 4 года назад +3

      She looks a lot like Sandberg too. So much so that you'd swear they're related.

    • @ashishgurung1417
      @ashishgurung1417 3 года назад

      @@diggydude5229 THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
      THIS SAND BERG IS THE ONE WHO IS THE MAIN THING BEHIND GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK BUSINESS MODEL.
      AND NOW ITS A CURSE THEY HAVE TO BEAR

  • @thepaperthepen
    @thepaperthepen 5 лет назад +28

    PBS instills hope in high quality US programming

    • @houseofvenusMD
      @houseofvenusMD 2 года назад

      since we were kids man they've always been quality

  • @Molislily
    @Molislily 3 года назад +12

    I feel uncomfortable in seeing the facial expressions of those FB representatives... feel like they are just lying

  • @yeormahma9475
    @yeormahma9475 3 года назад +25

    Jeff Bezos is largely to blame for all of these “learning” algorithms.
    They’re far too powerful

  • @tmford5025
    @tmford5025 5 лет назад +12

    It was so liberating to quit FB over 5 yrs ago. It's insidious

  • @thisfacebelievesyou8862
    @thisfacebelievesyou8862 5 лет назад +36

    38:28 “I think we just thought it was _sufficient_ “ and therein lies the problem. “Sufficient” is the bare minimum, it was your responsibility to be _efficient_

    • @PennyPaws4
      @PennyPaws4 5 лет назад +3

      This face...
      You nailed it!

  • @NoXs4u
    @NoXs4u 5 лет назад +3

    You can delete Facebook but Facebook does not delete you.

  • @ripetomato9629
    @ripetomato9629 4 года назад +28

    Deleting my acct today. I'm done.

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 года назад +2

      Did you delete it? Your post is from a year ago.

    • @abhishekt6775
      @abhishekt6775 3 года назад +2

      @@vaquera9368 😂

    • @vaquera9368
      @vaquera9368 3 года назад +1

      @@abhishekt6775 I’m curious if Ripe Tomato followed through. 🤣

    • @abhishekt6775
      @abhishekt6775 3 года назад +2

      @@vaquera9368 I'm highly skeptical on that 😂

  • @Bakrain
    @Bakrain 5 лет назад +30

    I don't blame fb, I blame the users. I deleted my account years ago when I read the EULA and realized that if I uploaded a photo to fb, I no longer own it. They do. I deleted and never looked back and urge others to do the same, try out a new hobby or meet people in real life. I don't miss it at all.

    • @timothywhershey2449
      @timothywhershey2449 3 года назад

      America has been played by its own countrymen. Fakebook only cares about how to monatize its users. Suckerburg is a fucking sociopath. His goal is to play people for his pleasure. Thats it

  • @rea8585
    @rea8585 5 лет назад +173

    It's proved that social media make people asocial. Starting here, we should just delete our accounts.

    • @Spiral.Dynamics
      @Spiral.Dynamics 5 лет назад +8

      Quick Fix - Thought Provoking Videos You first 😂

    • @Dogsrule777
      @Dogsrule777 5 лет назад +1

      Quick Fix - Thought Provoking Videos Sure. Every account except my dogs Insta page! 🤓☮️

    • @stephens.6281
      @stephens.6281 5 лет назад +6

      By that logic, I shouldn't even be seeing your comment right now.. Gonna practice what you preach before suggesting what everyone else should do?

    • @ecnash8272
      @ecnash8272 5 лет назад +3

      I got rid of my account as soon as I learned it was hacked. We do not need Facebook. Twitter is better because they only allow a short amount of characters so it is hard to get confrontational. Twitter now has great Security but the downside is all of the Trump followers are haters. I do not follow him.

    • @ecnash8272
      @ecnash8272 5 лет назад +1

      @@Dogsrule777 You may have a great page but there are pages like I Hate Dogs' Cats, and all animals Years ago I got a Mexican Student Deported because he was sharing extremely disturbing videos of Cats, Kittens, Dogs and Puppies being tortured This was on the Care2 site. It still makes me sick because I downloaded every single video and turned it over to the Police in Austin, TX. This student never went to class and the School were glad to be rid of him.

  • @AB1Vampire
    @AB1Vampire 3 года назад +4

    I tried Facebook over a decade ago and was startled over how FB affected my search returns. I removed FB and never went back. I was on FB for 2 weeks.

  • @tarunlohani263
    @tarunlohani263 3 года назад +6

    I left social media in 2015 and guess what I am still alive!

  • @MichaelFlynn0
    @MichaelFlynn0 5 лет назад +41

    they clearly have no solution.

  • @Greg29
    @Greg29 5 лет назад +28

    I've never uploaded any personal info about me on FB yet they seem to know who I work with and what I do for a living. Beyond Orwellian.

    • @tertiary7
      @tertiary7 3 года назад +1

      your friends and family snitched

    • @Greg29
      @Greg29 3 года назад

      @@tertiary7 Nope, never used it for anything, never communicated with anyone with it.

    • @TheJonnyEnglish
      @TheJonnyEnglish 3 года назад

      @@Greg29 how do you know they know?

    • @Greg29
      @Greg29 3 года назад +1

      @@TheJonnyEnglish Because they show profiles of many people I work with saying "Do you know so and so".

  • @maritheresereyes
    @maritheresereyes 5 лет назад +30

    What does a 'VP of Social Good' actually do?

    • @MollyPorter
      @MollyPorter 4 года назад +3

      Mari Therese Reyes marketing 😂

    • @cs-rm8vs
      @cs-rm8vs 4 года назад +3

      Probably a sociology major that’s way out of her depth.

    • @SuperSpace2009
      @SuperSpace2009 3 года назад

      You are right! What does she do! Because their was nothing social good about it! People telling lies! Other people believing it! And then they killing and hurting people! All from your social media! What's good about that!

    • @missflorencek8569
      @missflorencek8569 3 года назад

      Social corporate responsibility if facebook is capable of it.

    • @jamessimon2067
      @jamessimon2067 2 года назад +1

      Collect a 6 digit pay

  • @miss.810
    @miss.810 3 года назад +6

    I don't believe Facebook.

  • @JoeMacStevens
    @JoeMacStevens 5 лет назад +21

    Very informative.
    I quit Facebook because of concerns of how the news feed was affecting my political thinking

  • @SamPeeblesawesomedallastours
    @SamPeeblesawesomedallastours 5 лет назад +26

    Facebook just keeps saying they're sorry....

    • @justsayin3647
      @justsayin3647 5 лет назад +1

      Sam Peebles That was their plan. They said so in the first 5 or so minutes of the part one video

    • @aldelgado9343
      @aldelgado9343 5 лет назад +2

      but still their pockets keeps filling up with dollar bills

    • @cuatesanz5611
      @cuatesanz5611 4 года назад

      Lol.. I amazed by the lies and propaganda that had taken peoples life away
      .. And they just say.. Sorry. Lmao

  • @James_CvlsX111
    @James_CvlsX111 4 года назад +6

    I honestly don’t think we humans are supposed to communicate with so many people and the same time 🤫🤫

  • @jarullins2
    @jarullins2 3 года назад +8

    who is the interviewer? His job on this amazes me. damn

  • @patrickmuhwheeney6518
    @patrickmuhwheeney6518 5 лет назад +104

    Facebook has been nothing more than a data mining advertising platform since shortly after launch, and the claim that it's just a technology firm is absurd and disingenuous. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, Mark!

    • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 5 лет назад

      Still, who among us wouldn't want to be wearing it - in one venue or another?

    • @neroresurrected
      @neroresurrected 5 лет назад +4

      I think you will surprisingly find that you would be in the minority on that.. I wouldn’t want to be Zuckerberg right now or ever considering the kinds of issues Facebook has now.. as the saying goes more money more problems...

    • @johndough23
      @johndough23 5 лет назад +1

      @@neroresurrected MZ is the target simply because he should not be doing public appearances. He would not last 2 hands playing poker for example.

    • @houseofancients
      @houseofancients 4 года назад +2

      you do know one its first investors were the cia and nsa correct ?

  • @rerun374
    @rerun374 5 лет назад +210

    You guys sold your privacy to post up selfies :-)

    • @dominicjonez2247
      @dominicjonez2247 5 лет назад +6

      Facebook is good. People are bad

    • @dopeonme
      @dopeonme 5 лет назад +2

      @@dominicjonez2247 But people have always been bad... I know this, you know this, and Facebook should have knew this.

    • @suneosatellites
      @suneosatellites 5 лет назад +4

      True. Facebook isnt free. We just pay them in different ways.

    • @subversivelysurreal3645
      @subversivelysurreal3645 4 года назад +2

      Zen Madster “To Minimize Bad Experiences.”
      Yeah. I suppose ‘Genocide’ is kinda bad...

    • @karendalsadik7119
      @karendalsadik7119 4 года назад +2

      suneosatellites your statement should be amplified and advertised everywhere. Facebook is a social and public health problem.

  • @gystiel
    @gystiel Год назад

    Watching this on 2022. Looking back on these 4 years... I am at a loss for words.

  • @AliKades
    @AliKades 3 года назад +4

    This is why I deleted my account!

  • @lewiszim
    @lewiszim 5 лет назад +25

    Yes, all my friends are on Facebook. No, I don't use Facebook. Just because my friends do it doesn't mean I have to.

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK 5 лет назад

      Some cares you dont use Facebook?

    • @justsayin3647
      @justsayin3647 5 лет назад

      You don't have to. They get your data through your friends. That's a problem.

    • @lewiszim
      @lewiszim 5 лет назад +2

      @@justsayin3647 I agree that's a problem, a terrible problem. At the very least, I don't have to waste endless hours of my life on Facebook.

    • @4WDTRD1
      @4WDTRD1 5 лет назад

      Then you HAVE no friends ... j/k

    • @aldelgado9343
      @aldelgado9343 5 лет назад

      you must be a boring person

  • @vicbreeden2448
    @vicbreeden2448 5 лет назад +12

    Facebook has exposed/amplified how irresponsible we are as individuals.

  • @pgo301
    @pgo301 4 года назад +8

    I agree, it's too hard to actually stop, the only thing you can do is keep trying to contain it. People just have to verify what influences them the most. I, personally never would take any news from Facebook as verbatim.

  • @jigsnep
    @jigsnep 4 года назад +2

    Someone killed someone with kitchen knife then you held the manufacturer liable? That's crazy.

  • @RexHalbeisen
    @RexHalbeisen 5 лет назад +146

    I left Facebook a year ago. Best move ever. It's a terrible business model run by punk kids who never take accountability. It's all about the $$$. Delete your account now

    • @WamuyuGatheru
      @WamuyuGatheru 5 лет назад +4

      Not an easy thing to do if one's business is built on it

    • @vidyutdevam9204
      @vidyutdevam9204 5 лет назад +1

      @ganymedeIV4 don't say anything about family whatever or whoever you are .

    • @juicyfeces
      @juicyfeces 5 лет назад +1

      @ganymedeIV4 Eww someone totally hates their life

    • @abbyrose6998
      @abbyrose6998 5 лет назад +5

      Can I (like) your comment 100 more times? F@CK ZUCK!

    • @bigwave7207
      @bigwave7207 5 лет назад +5

      Deleted mine after the election. It was never that great anyway. 2016 was a deal breaker for me.

  • @Dogsrule777
    @Dogsrule777 5 лет назад +50

    How does Part 2 have so little views? This is truly fascinating. 👍🏽

    • @harrybrown6014
      @harrybrown6014 5 лет назад +1

      Uh, it's shown on all PBS stations and on their web site as well.

    • @Menstral
      @Menstral 5 лет назад +11

      The vast majority of people don't follow through.... with anything.

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK 5 лет назад

      It's boring

    • @mikoparolanto
      @mikoparolanto 5 лет назад +7

      People have short attention fans. People watch ten minutes videos and they consider themselves educated.
      A two hour documentary takes too much time.
      And forget about reading.
      Some people have legitimate excuses, like trying to survive under capitalism, raise children, and barely have any alone time.
      Other people spend hours on facebook or binging on Netflix.
      Lack of civic duty and class consciousness.

    • @tylerb8032
      @tylerb8032 5 лет назад +1

      Bcoz ppl are interested in listening to mumble rap than anything informative

  • @helenlauer9545
    @helenlauer9545 4 года назад +24

    "We didn't know we were doing so much damage . . ." I think there's a moral obligation, and also legal e.g. when companies pollute rivers, or when tobacco companies cause cancer, so that (wanton) ignorance is not an exonerating circumstance. I think ignorance in this kind of situation may count as negligence which is culpable. Anyway, it's easy in hindsight to castigate.

    • @saywhat6250
      @saywhat6250 2 года назад

      Facebook is so criminal, corrupt & FOS it's ridiculous. Nowadays or ever since the 2016 presidential election facebook has really been on a heavy censorship crusade censoring any & everything that might be informative to the uninformed as far as the status quo is concerned. But to hide this they use a so-called "community standard" policy to block out what THEY (not you) might feel is unacceptable. In other words they think for you without GAF of how you might see it. That right there is a violation of people rights. Why would they take it upon themselves to restrict things that's posted when there's already certain controls that the individual can use to filter out post that maybe offensive to them (& not 'facebook admins')??? They'll even restrict fb users for post that was posted way before they even put the policy in place & then will give you no option or opportunity to dispute the violation.

  • @marinavaskovich7488
    @marinavaskovich7488 5 лет назад +21

    In this day and age if you value freedom of speech you need to implement critical thinking classes from elementary school all the way to doctors degrees.

  • @jacobday1214
    @jacobday1214 5 лет назад +35

    Naomi is literally a living embodiment of a male comedians impression of an ex girlfriend

  • @JeepCherokeeful
    @JeepCherokeeful 5 лет назад +44

    The byproducts of Facebook are more consequential than the product itself.

  • @dizziemisslizzie9884
    @dizziemisslizzie9884 4 года назад +4

    Facebook is the worst thing to happen to humanity, in quite a while!
    I left FB four years ago, and my life has truly improved.

  • @johnbeam1830
    @johnbeam1830 Год назад +2

    Could we please we get a part three?

  • @kssoukup
    @kssoukup 5 лет назад +6

    Whatever side of the Facebook fight you see yourself on, I hope you all see how terribly disingenuous and condescending this Naomi Gleit is. She's the worst.

  • @ChristopherDrum
    @ChristopherDrum 5 лет назад +3

    Wow, it's kind of amazing how Frontline can just play a large section of Zuck's speech at F8, unedited, word-for-word, as the closing statement for their own point.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 2 года назад +15

    I closed my facebook account about 20 years ago, after a good friend did, and suggested I do the same. I'm very glad I did, and have absolutely no regrets in doing so. This is a very important report. I hope more people see it, and take it seriously. Facebook really needs to be broken up, as it is a monopoly. Thanks.

    • @Nafsllib
      @Nafsllib 2 года назад +2

      You wanna know how much data information youtube and google are collecting from you?

    • @Fudgeoff6628
      @Fudgeoff6628 2 года назад +3

      20 years you say? you know it was created in 2004, right?

    • @mtadams2009
      @mtadams2009 Год назад +2

      @@Nafsllib I don’t have to see childhood friends fight. I got off in 2016. Anyone with half a brain could see the constant fake news feeds and post from others. Most of RUclips for me is about how to fix things and sports.

  • @TDH_1962
    @TDH_1962 4 года назад +2

    Letting a company decide what you see and read is troubling.

  • @davelewis6451
    @davelewis6451 5 лет назад +36

    Deleted my account a year ago! Family and friends understand and will just call or text more to catch up. I do miss the funny memes tho.

  • @chestermandelbrot6903
    @chestermandelbrot6903 5 лет назад +6

    Twenty nine minutes in is the chilling reality.
    "When lies become truth".

  • @juliaguglielmi-mollica4010
    @juliaguglielmi-mollica4010 3 года назад +4

    Evil and will be taken down! In Jesus name!

  • @aleethelfa9880
    @aleethelfa9880 3 года назад +2

    Nice Docu..from FRONTLINE..keeps the listener focused.

  • @JohnSmith-iz8wg
    @JohnSmith-iz8wg 5 лет назад +7

    #1 Don't use Facebook
    #2 Believe what you see
    1/2 of what you read
    and none of what you hear !

  • @alansledge114
    @alansledge114 5 лет назад +48

    These FB execs are naïve up-talkers

    • @covariance5446
      @covariance5446 4 года назад +1

      Tessa Lyons in particular talks/sounds like a stereotypical valley girl. I know it's unfair and superficial for judging someone on the basis of how they talk, but when I hear words come out of her mouth, all I can think is nepotism and cronysm.

    • @tertiary7
      @tertiary7 3 года назад

      i never heard of that. thanks. i called it valley girl. it's drives crazy and sounds ridiculous. especially this 46:27

  • @zen2911
    @zen2911 5 лет назад +24

    Does humanity even need a platform like fb?

    • @gavenevans
      @gavenevans 3 года назад +6

      No

    • @ninjabreadgirl
      @ninjabreadgirl 3 года назад +3

      Definitely not. It has only poisoned the minds of millions.

    • @GorgeousJewell_1029
      @GorgeousJewell_1029 3 года назад +2

      Absolutely not.

    • @michelleday3105
      @michelleday3105 3 года назад +1

      I am, beyond amazed, the damage done by one "platform." The world is definitely not better because of it. As a matter of fact, it has hurt society in ways we never thought were even possible.
      D E M O N I C

  • @sherrijensen6842
    @sherrijensen6842 3 года назад +4

    But yet they FB blocks my ads that we have eggs for sale! Saying I'm breaking the rules! No live animals for sale on fb! These are not live animals! And here I thought it was a BOT... So many people are leaving FB. I'm also thinking about it!

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 5 лет назад +21

    Shouldn't you understand the landscape before you build on it?

  • @krey89
    @krey89 5 лет назад +35

    facebook deleted

    • @yidakivalenzuela3535
      @yidakivalenzuela3535 3 года назад +1

      Except for the shadow profile that is still in their servers

    • @boringmanager9559
      @boringmanager9559 3 года назад

      did you also quit whats up and instagram? cause otherwise you still let them know everything about you

    • @johncarry5302
      @johncarry5302 3 года назад

      The way they discuss things sounds like members of Scientology - robotic and out of touch. Sociopathic andd scarey.

  • @gregniederhaus3801
    @gregniederhaus3801 3 года назад +1

    I quit that monster, experienced the withdrawals and feel much lighter without it. Back to good old fashioned phone calls and person to person visits for me. Works out better this way.

  • @charlestheos8954
    @charlestheos8954 4 года назад +3

    The man crying @ 35:27 broke my heart.

  • @CARDINAL701
    @CARDINAL701 5 лет назад +14

    I really think Facebook needs, along with all of their young, brilliant, idealistic and enthusiastic employees, needs some older, more cynical people around in management positions to raise some red flags before all these problems take too much of a hold.

  • @loufher284
    @loufher284 5 лет назад +4

    I'm gonna share this on Facebook!!!

  • @dmoneyusa2851
    @dmoneyusa2851 4 года назад +3

    Just deleted my account. No more facebook for me.

  • @keepmelovely
    @keepmelovely 4 года назад +8

    "Social good" -so dystopian

  • @BhutanBluePoppy
    @BhutanBluePoppy 5 лет назад +47

    I suspect Naomi may actually be a robot.

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered 5 лет назад +3

      The money honey. She's a stock holder in the company therefore a vested interest in denial.

    • @robertnewell4054
      @robertnewell4054 5 лет назад +3

      BhutanBluePoppy affirming head nods, business speak .... HR clone at least

    • @justsayin3647
      @justsayin3647 5 лет назад

      Point an EMP at Zuckerburg and watch him short out.

    • @S3rjiu
      @S3rjiu 4 года назад +3

      I thought she was drugged, can't be so out of touch with reality, but then again, Zuckerberg is the CEO

  • @harrybrown6014
    @harrybrown6014 5 лет назад +20

    I'm fairly certain I never bought anything based on a Facebook ad. I don't even recall reading any of them The advertisers wasted their money on me.

    • @K1OIK
      @K1OIK 5 лет назад

      Someone cares about you?

    • @t33nyplaysp0p
      @t33nyplaysp0p 5 лет назад

      so youre completely in control of your subconcious.......derp no

  • @merrillmilner8717
    @merrillmilner8717 3 года назад +1

    ...and now we have Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Kenosha, etc.

  • @Rene_33
    @Rene_33 3 года назад +1

    I can't even imagine having an interview of any kind. I can barely make a discussion not awkward without a camera shoved in my face lol

  • @rerun374
    @rerun374 5 лет назад +27

    It's sad that this has relatively few views.

    • @jbousley
      @jbousley 5 лет назад

      It just came out... Many people are still at work or unable to watch at the moment.

    • @thebunkreport
      @thebunkreport 5 лет назад +3

      I bet it would get a ton of views if everyone shared it on Facebook.

    • @raymondfrye8968
      @raymondfrye8968 5 лет назад

      Plenty of Intelligence Agencies have seen this docum. without registering as viewers.

    • @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165
      @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165 5 лет назад

      i watched it when it premiered on pbs. my fbfs know that, if it's Tuesday, i'm watching "FRONTLINE". When i wrote abt the topic, fb literally sent me the most blatant notification EVER:
      "Your friend_____ just updated her status. Why not say hi to her?" It was SERIOUSLY, something to that effect: "LOOK OVER HERE, NOT AT YOUR TV!!!".
      i sshot it and used THAT to "say hi", lol. 😂😂

  • @thebunkreport
    @thebunkreport 5 лет назад +38

    Zuckerberg just comes off as so robotic and reptilian to me. I have to wonder if he's even human. I will say that I'm not going to delete my Facebook account, but for the first time in years, I no longer care whether or not I have an account or not. As a matter of fact, after watching these two Frontline docs, every time I go to pick up my phone and look at my Facebook account, I actually get a little nauseous.

    • @thebunkreport
      @thebunkreport 5 лет назад +5

      @ There's something about him I just don't like. Can't put my finger on it.

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered 5 лет назад +1

      News flash not fake news you can't delete your account at best you can delete everything on it and sign out but the account remains.

    • @thebunkreport
      @thebunkreport 5 лет назад +2

      @@writerconsidered OK... Well I said I wasn't going to delete it anyway, but thanks for that totally irrelevent information.

    • @divaah3995
      @divaah3995 5 лет назад +3

      @@writerconsidered Not true. You can most definitely PERMANENTLY delete your Facebook account AND ALL the personal information, photos, connections, etc. that it contains or is associated with, according to Facebook. They allow you 14 days from your request to delete your account to give you time to 'personally save and transfer your information or change your mind' and NOT PERMANENTLY delete your account, which apparently is more serious than just temporarily deleting it. I know this from personal recent experience.

    • @raymondfrye8968
      @raymondfrye8968 5 лет назад

      @@thebunkreport It is your knowledge that he is a Jew and your IRRATIONAL FEELING ABOUT THIS.

  • @thecrowester
    @thecrowester 4 года назад +2

    facebook should be broken up into three separate segments that have its own distinct and disconnected platform from each other:
    1. purely personal social networking
    2. exchange and proliferation of news
    3. commercial purposes
    all user account information should be regulated to be limited to its own platform and not be shared with the rest unless the user voluntarily consents to expand his/her account information to the other segments.

    • @MrGrace
      @MrGrace 4 года назад +1

      That's a great idea

    • @patriciastuckenberg3287
      @patriciastuckenberg3287 Год назад +1

      Boo,,some of these FB employees make 1/4 million a year.could you get on and help with your ideas.seem to be a solution

  • @bschell1969
    @bschell1969 5 лет назад +3

    So wtf does magnifying the good mean? Anybody else catch that?

  • @tertiary7
    @tertiary7 5 лет назад +13

    48:50 corporate leadership isn't used to being questioned for clarity on their bullshit.. this was hilarious.

    • @TheMelMan
      @TheMelMan 3 года назад

      That was so embarassing.

  • @DearProfessorRF
    @DearProfessorRF 5 лет назад +27

    From the documentary interviewees body language I got a strong impression that these Facebook individuals don’t give a damn.

  • @mammathorne2098
    @mammathorne2098 3 года назад +2

    I dont have a Facebook account. It's just sad that I have had to teach my daughters that do have accounts that just because they seen it on FB doesn't mean its true

  • @guyeddy5200
    @guyeddy5200 3 года назад

    Thank you, Huge information of importance

  • @rerun374
    @rerun374 5 лет назад +14

    I would sell my shares of Facebook sooner rather than later.

  • @scudboy0028
    @scudboy0028 5 лет назад +38

    DELETE FACEBOOK!!!

  • @jamesdunn7556
    @jamesdunn7556 2 года назад +4

    I agree that this is a problem. I just can’t get past the hypocritical nature of a news show talking about lies on a social network. News shows routinely lie and twist the facts to fit their agenda.

  • @genrock6756
    @genrock6756 3 года назад +1

    I don’t know if anyone notice, but this is the story of DATA and it’s humble beginning from STARTREK.

  • @gregbond931
    @gregbond931 5 лет назад +4

    Frontline is at it again 😎

  • @tintinbuffet
    @tintinbuffet 5 лет назад +3

    I haven't posted/updated my FB in 2 years and stopped checking it. I have put off deleting it, despite being disgusted by their actions for quite some time. This documentary is what I needed to see to finally pull the trigger and delete entirely. Smell you later Zuck.

  • @ramjet5192
    @ramjet5192 3 года назад +1

    If a person is making numerous phone calls spreading misinformation, is the phone company responsible?
    Is the railroad responsible for offensive graffiti on its cars?

  • @iamrichrocker
    @iamrichrocker 3 года назад +3

    what struck me is the former Facebook employees interviewed averaged 2.5 years employment..and the average salary of facebook employees is a staggering 240k a year...what prompted their cessation of employment after so few years? insiders who really know/knew the real story..dangerous turf for sure i say...

  • @Orf
    @Orf 5 лет назад +5

    51:45 “giving people a voice is important!” But does he really believe that if he’s removing pages without any warning or legitimate explanation?

  • @testchannel1834
    @testchannel1834 5 лет назад +24

    Facebook needs to be broken up . Ceo must be replaced

    • @BdDaBOMB
      @BdDaBOMB 5 лет назад +1

      I'm not convinced that whoever takes their place will do a better job.

    • @Dangic23
      @Dangic23 5 лет назад

      Ceo was put there by the pentagon. Mark would just be replaced with another puppet

    • @816taylor
      @816taylor 5 лет назад +1

      @@Dangic23 OMG are YOU KIDDING ME, oh is that a conspiracy theory of yours. Zuckerberg doesn't work for the Pentagon, never has. Pull your head out of your ass.

    • @thefrankonion
      @thefrankonion 5 лет назад +1

      It helped get Obama elected. Now you want to break it. Is this because it helped get someone you hate elected?

    • @Dangic23
      @Dangic23 5 лет назад +1

      @@816taylor
      My comment wasn't literal.
      But if you look into DARPA's lifelong venture, it will explain a lot.
      All public info, so definitely not a conspiracy.

  • @tgaming8745
    @tgaming8745 Год назад +1

    When you have the majority of the leaders of Facebook that are mostly in their 20's without enough life experience, insight into consequences are really hard to see. Anyone that's in their 40's or above will mostly day that they aren't the same people that they were in their 20's and they understand a lot more about life than they did in their 20's too.

  • @jimmysniffit4854
    @jimmysniffit4854 4 года назад +3

    Wow I accidently left facebook 2 years ago cuz it was toxic now I know why. CLICK CLICK DELETE FACEBOOK!