Little late to the party but want to say these comparisons are always interesting. Felt like Mic 2 had a bit more bass coming through compared to Mic 1. Also, seems like they just added II to the frequency chart and said "sure, close enough!"
Yeah, that's why I showed that. An example of nearly identical specs and identical charts but sounding different. This is why I always say, you have to listen to mics. Don't trust the specs.
I’ll bee honest and say that this definitely was a neat review. It’s really interesting to see the direction that Neat is taking and I’m glad Turtle Beach didn’t just let them waste away.
A lot of people would have been mad of they did. As I said in this video, why mess with a winning combination? I do think the new look is cool although I still miss the OG bee stripes.
Got a pair of King Bee One and really liked them, but the bee-meme looks and heavy weight were not ideal on the long run, so I let them go. This was the best mic for the (discount) price ever and beautiful sounding (EQ in post, a bit humpy in the upper mids), the KB1 had a transformer and was built like a tank.
Do you recommend this microphone for deeper voices or would something brighter be better? Just bought this and a zoom h5 for voiceovers and they should be coming in tomorrow. Obviously a dedicated interface is better but I won't have any computer fan noise with this set up and the zoom was more versatile. Also, the King Bee II has a low self noise to offset the noisier preamps.
When I started the video watching the blind comparison, I thought Mic 2 was King Bee II because it has a warmer sound, but what revealed it is when the pop filter was removed, and the shock went into the mic.
I realized that when I went into post. There were two moments before my reveal where I made it obvious... The pop filter removal was one and the other was when I made an adjustment to each mic separately. I thought about an earlier graphics reveal but went with it.
I have the King Bee 1 and like it a lot. I don't love the weight and how it sits in the Bee Keeper, which they seem to have refined with the King Bee 2. However, it's a bit more boomy in the lows than the Bee 1, so I would tame the low end with EQ a bit more than the Bee 1. Great stuff, and thanks for the video!
Like the comparison and video.Owning two KB1’s at $99 Amazon, very satisfied already. They live in the foam block they came in and I re purposed the four boxes. Still mystified by the dreidels( they carry stickers with serial numbers)
@@SoundSpeeds I saw the video with the blind test that compared it favorably with TLM 103 waveform.Then a video saying line was discontinued. I was buying inexpensive gear for my retirement hobbying.
Such a good question! I think that depends on the application. I connected up the King Bee II at my desk last night and holy crap does it reach well from far away. Very bass heavy. I'm going to keep it there for a bit but I think I would prefer the more neutral sound of the E100SX and the E100 vintage over that. I bought a Worker Bee II this morning and considering how much I love the Worker Bee I (but not the way the shockmount holds it sideways), I'm thinking I might like the WB2 at my desk. We'll see. I may do a Livestream soon to try it though. I'm expecting viewers to think I'm going for a DelGaudio sound.
I think I prefer mic 1, but it feels like you could just use a shelf boost to get the response of 2. They both sound a little mid-scooped but definitely great mics.
I have a Beecaster USB mic which is way cool, high output, four capsules and modes. I’d like to mod it to kill self noise and make it darker.Any suggestions?
@@SoundSpeeds I just watched Bandrew’s review and it beats the Blueyeti! Mine came from Amazon with a broken solder in the crude capsule input rail. Perhaps it’s the FET andor cheap caps that make it so noisy. Just seems like a diamond in the rough, with a little TLC it could be useable..
I've been an audiophile for quite some time, but microphones are a new thing to me. I liked the mic 1 the best, but for what I can tell from the other comments I don't have many company on that. Maybe my earphone is much better than theirs! HEHE
@@SoundSpeeds Sure thing! As an almost 20 years audiophile, the subjectivity of how we hear and perceive sound is something well established for me at this point. BTW, Tom Buck brought me here. Great content, and thank you for all the effort you put in your videos and also in your comments session!
Hard thing. Both sound good. I switched to another tab for a sec and did not hear a difference - when closely listening I feel Mic 1 has a bit more high mids and a little less bass (I listen on 250 Ohm DT770 powered by a PreSonus 1824) - I personally would go for Mic 2 (at least on your voice in your room -> with my taste :D)
@@SoundSpeeds Thats how it's meant to be - different opinions :) But I also might change my opinion when listening with my 7506s.. Its really hard to judge, since we all listen on so different Headphones/HP-Preamps. I often am not happy with how a take turned out on set (I mainly use the 7506's there) and when listening back home on my DT's I suddenly dont have anything to complain anymore.
One reason for that is because 7506s allow sound in and sometimes those sounds can cancel against the sound in your ears. That and you hearing the offensive sound thru your mic and your headphones so it kinda increases.
@@SoundSpeeds I hated the 7506 mostly for that reason, but after using a velours type ear pad, I just gave thicker leather ones a try and now the isolation is SO MUCH better. I almost could not believe it. They were like 6€ pieces from AliExpress, but they increased my experience by a lot! I feel like this is a must do upgrade. When using the stock or velours ear pads I often even got a feedback loop when standing too close to the boom with the headphones louder -> newer had that problem with the new pads!
Geez, how loud are you monitoring your sound? I often stand with my headphones off on the right side and can touch the mic to my stock pad and not feedback.
I think they decided to produce this one cheaper than the original by omitting all the kitschy nonsense and omitting the transformer, making version 2 a little leaner internally.
Little late to the party but want to say these comparisons are always interesting. Felt like Mic 2 had a bit more bass coming through compared to Mic 1. Also, seems like they just added II to the frequency chart and said "sure, close enough!"
Yeah, that's why I showed that. An example of nearly identical specs and identical charts but sounding different. This is why I always say, you have to listen to mics. Don't trust the specs.
You rang 0:10 & 08:31 :) Personally to me, Mic 2, the King Bee 2 had a more fuller sound, but then again my hearing is not what it used to be
They both sound really good. I need to back off them a bit to keep me from hurting myself with my own B sounds.
Both sound good to me. Nice thst they were mounted correctly and you talked into the roght part. I once saw this guy...:)
Being a sound channel it helps to speak into them correctly. :-) I may occasionally put a lens on backwards though.
I’ll bee honest and say that this definitely was a neat review. It’s really interesting to see the direction that Neat is taking and I’m glad Turtle Beach didn’t just let them waste away.
A lot of people would have been mad of they did. As I said in this video, why mess with a winning combination? I do think the new look is cool although I still miss the OG bee stripes.
Got a pair of King Bee One and really liked them, but the bee-meme looks and heavy weight were not ideal on the long run, so I let them go. This was the best mic for the (discount) price ever and beautiful sounding (EQ in post, a bit humpy in the upper mids), the KB1 had a transformer and was built like a tank.
I love the KB1. Still one of my favorite mics. I prefer it to the 2.
Do you recommend this microphone for deeper voices or would something brighter be better? Just bought this and a zoom h5 for voiceovers and they should be coming in tomorrow. Obviously a dedicated interface is better but I won't have any computer fan noise with this set up and the zoom was more versatile. Also, the King Bee II has a low self noise to offset the noisier preamps.
It may be too much bass for you but then, you may like it. You may be able back off on the mic a little and it'll still sound full.
When I started the video watching the blind comparison, I thought Mic 2 was King Bee II because it has a warmer sound, but what revealed it is when the pop filter was removed, and the shock went into the mic.
I realized that when I went into post. There were two moments before my reveal where I made it obvious... The pop filter removal was one and the other was when I made an adjustment to each mic separately. I thought about an earlier graphics reveal but went with it.
Look at that well groomed hair. Makes the headphones fit closer.
LOL. I just chop it down. No styling or anything. Pet hair trimmer (since we had an unused one to spare).
2 is 2. Smoother, less sharp in highs.
Ok
Great review!
Thank you and thank you for watching.
Great comparison!
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I have the King Bee 1 and like it a lot. I don't love the weight and how it sits in the Bee Keeper, which they seem to have refined with the King Bee 2. However, it's a bit more boomy in the lows than the Bee 1, so I would tame the low end with EQ a bit more than the Bee 1. Great stuff, and thanks for the video!
My thinking exactly. I connected up the KB2 at my desk last night and I sound like a radio broadcaster. I have to back way off.
Like the comparison and video.Owning two KB1’s at $99 Amazon, very satisfied already. They live in the foam block they came in and I re purposed the four boxes. Still mystified by the dreidels( they carry stickers with serial numbers)
The KB1 is still an amazing value for only $100. Unbeatable at that price point for everything you got.
@@SoundSpeeds I saw the video with the blind test that compared it favorably with TLM 103 waveform.Then a video saying line was discontinued. I was buying inexpensive gear for my retirement hobbying.
Smart
Do you like the Bee 2 models better than the CAD Audio E100Sx?
Such a good question! I think that depends on the application. I connected up the King Bee II at my desk last night and holy crap does it reach well from far away. Very bass heavy. I'm going to keep it there for a bit but I think I would prefer the more neutral sound of the E100SX and the E100 vintage over that. I bought a Worker Bee II this morning and considering how much I love the Worker Bee I (but not the way the shockmount holds it sideways), I'm thinking I might like the WB2 at my desk. We'll see. I may do a Livestream soon to try it though. I'm expecting viewers to think I'm going for a DelGaudio sound.
I think I prefer mic 1, but it feels like you could just use a shelf boost to get the response of 2. They both sound a little mid-scooped but definitely great mics.
Mid scooped? Really? I'll have to listen to this video on my Adams.
@@SoundSpeeds that was my initial impression but not by much, for the KB1 it might just be a matter of taming the sibilance a bit.
Boosted on the ends does indeed make a smiley face but I don't hear a lot of sibilance in these. Not as much as other mics, at least.
I have a Beecaster USB mic which is way cool, high output, four capsules and modes. I’d like to mod it to kill self noise and make it darker.Any suggestions?
Sorry but I'm not sure if it has any USB filters or processing that it offers. There are plenty of tricks you can do inside of a DAW though.
@@SoundSpeeds I just watched Bandrew’s review and it beats the Blueyeti! Mine came from Amazon with a broken solder in the crude capsule input rail. Perhaps it’s the FET andor cheap caps that make it so noisy. Just seems like a diamond in the rough, with a little TLC it could be useable..
I'm sure you're right. The capsules probably aren't much different than the Worker Bee if I were to guess.
@@SoundSpeeds hmm..the birth of FrankenBeecaster!
Problem is, once I take it apart again- you know
Been there.
Does mic one sound crunchy?
I didn't notice it. I may have to go back and relisten if you think so.
Mic 2 sounds noticeably warmer, at least to me with headphones on. For the price, not bad at all. 👍
Yes indeed. I do like the sound of it too
@@SoundSpeeds Also, they look cool.
They do indeed!
I've been an audiophile for quite some time, but microphones are a new thing to me. I liked the mic 1 the best, but for what I can tell from the other comments I don't have many company on that. Maybe my earphone is much better than theirs! HEHE
Listening is subjective. Go with what sounds good to you and forget what anyone else thinks.
@@SoundSpeeds Sure thing! As an almost 20 years audiophile, the subjectivity of how we hear and perceive sound is something well established for me at this point. BTW, Tom Buck brought me here. Great content, and thank you for all the effort you put in your videos and also in your comments session!
I will say the bee 1 does look alot cooler!
It looks bulky but I like the color scheme a lot. Unique
Hard thing. Both sound good. I switched to another tab for a sec and did not hear a difference - when closely listening I feel Mic 1 has a bit more high mids and a little less bass (I listen on 250 Ohm DT770 powered by a PreSonus 1824) - I personally would go for Mic 2 (at least on your voice in your room -> with my taste :D)
Really? I'm leaning 1 but both are close.
@@SoundSpeeds Thats how it's meant to be - different opinions :)
But I also might change my opinion when listening with my 7506s.. Its really hard to judge, since we all listen on so different Headphones/HP-Preamps.
I often am not happy with how a take turned out on set (I mainly use the 7506's there) and when listening back home on my DT's I suddenly dont have anything to complain anymore.
One reason for that is because 7506s allow sound in and sometimes those sounds can cancel against the sound in your ears. That and you hearing the offensive sound thru your mic and your headphones so it kinda increases.
@@SoundSpeeds I hated the 7506 mostly for that reason, but after using a velours type ear pad, I just gave thicker leather ones a try and now the isolation is SO MUCH better. I almost could not believe it. They were like 6€ pieces from AliExpress, but they increased my experience by a lot! I feel like this is a must do upgrade.
When using the stock or velours ear pads I often even got a feedback loop when standing too close to the boom with the headphones louder -> newer had that problem with the new pads!
Geez, how loud are you monitoring your sound? I often stand with my headphones off on the right side and can touch the mic to my stock pad and not feedback.
I think they decided to produce this one cheaper than the original by omitting all the kitschy nonsense and omitting the transformer, making version 2 a little leaner internally.
Very possible. Soon I'll review the Worker and you'll see a big frustration I have with it.
@@SoundSpeeds I look forward to it! I have the original worker and like it but never seem to use it.
I really like the OG Worker. Better than the King even. If you haven't seen my review of it: ruclips.net/video/AUhrnzm3FYM/видео.html
Neat Worker Bee II or Neat Worker Bee OG?
I just bought a Worker Bee II this morning. I'll have an opinion soon enough.
@@SoundSpeeds 👍
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@@SoundSpeeds Any updates?
Review soon
just get some yellow spray paint and some electrical tape.
Still not the same.
$149
Temporary price. I posted about it in my community tab right after this video dropped. The Worker Bee II is only $70 right now.